When I first played as cree and heard this I thought "all this howling is gonna get old fast" but then 10:35 hit me right in the face and manly tears where shed and proud cree nationalism exploded in my heart. (I still lost tho)
Its interesting that this is the only civ that fully maintains the vocals motifs of the ancient era throughout the entire game. Other civs if they have vocals they are often replaced with modern instruments (Medieval Era Russia Kalinka vs Industrial Era) which shows how proud they are of their heritage even after the oppressive treatment from colonists and forced adaptation into a rapidly changing world, that they will never lose touch with their roots.
Some civs also gain vocals in later eras, such as the Ottoman industrial theme or Russia's atomic one. But I agree that the vocals in this one feel the most proudly defiant
Well if you look at First Nations music a lot of it even modern day has been about the vocals the chanting and lyrics remember most of these cultural s did not write down history but passed it on trough song and oral teaching
This was perfection. It brought back many memories of when my family and I would attend the Pow Wow in the Kumeyaay nation with our dear family-friend who was a retired tribal member. The earth literally shaking from the power of the voices and drums, the stories being told throughout each song and dance as well as the strong bonds amongst each other. Not a single spark of hatred or judging glance. This music represents that. The pow wow was the last time we spent time together before they passed on. Miss you always and thank you for all the wisdom and smiles you have brought upon us. Eyaay ahan.
Thank you for your post, I'm sorry for your loss, but as time moves on we suffer hardships and grief. It molds us and those that continue to walk forward will continue to better the world and If you want, keep your family blood line going on. Stay strong my friend, for the native americans have not yet gone, and you are an example of one of them.
The atomic era is stuck in my head because I play as Germany and go for science victory while the Cree are in my game. I'm screaming at my Hansa to build the space ships faster while the Cree are dominating in religion and diplomacy. The drums feel like a count down to see who will get the winning score the fastest.
I was Rome. Built a powerful empire, destroyed cities, and manipulated the world into wars but as soon as I met Cree and the music hit..... that hit me. Never in a game it made me emotional and not invade them. I gave them 1000g upon greeting. Helping them if any dared to invade them. I’m my world all Indian tribes will always live in peace. If only in this world.
@@bloxknight1145 American Indians - Native Americans The term "Indian," in reference to the original inhabitants of the American continent, is said to derive from Christopher Columbus, a 15th century boat-person. Some say he used the term because he was convinced he had arrived in "the Indies" (Asia), his intended destination.
Am I the only one who thinks all of Poundmaker's themes slap? Granted, I'm already a fan of A Tribe Called Red so I'm used to the vocal style, but I think Plains traditional music is so beautiful.
It's absolutely amazing and I 100% agree with you. I learned about the Cree through this game, and now I wish I were part of that amazing cultural heritage.
@@NoahHalfSquid I know. Native American can refer to all peoples who lived in the americas pre-contact, not just those in the United States. The term is in fact too broad though, so I'll change it.
The only Civilization I regularly use. Since I'm Teton Lakota Sioux? I have to represent our Ancestors from other tribes. Man.....I really feel this Cree music. Especially later when the drums come in. They did marvelous with this music.
Algonquin here, and I agree. The music is the main reason why I always put the Cree in every game I start. Currently hoping the final addition to the New Frontier Pass is the Iroquois
@@maddoxbellrose7679 I am sure there was. Elders spoke of not just trade with the Iron Confederacy, but coordinated military action on both sides of the US/Canada border. The Cree best fighters were the Plains Natives. Sitting Bull even escaped to the safety of Canada before both Governments' started c racking down on them. One of their reasons? They "claimed" there were British Indians among the ranks and Montanans feared from attacks on both sides.
Civ ost is heaven if you like fusion. Sure there's ethnic fusion and thematic osts everywhere, but where else would you be able to hear this kind of music this consistently and the closest to authentic?
The industrial theme is like in an alternate timeline where the Cree pulled a move similar to the Japanese in the later half of the 19th century. Like they modernized( be it through science, espionage, plain old copying) so quick in the 1810’s they were actually formidable and formed a nation state, skipping over 1500 years of development. Arguably more impressive than the Japanese modernization on our own timeline. That premise would be an Interesting book/TV seres.
@@dango6266 true, when i first met him(with no clue of who he is), i thought he was like a european/westernized native leader lol he looks handsome with that classic tribal hairstyle(?).
Well, if you have a good spirit you can laugh at that comment, but in the end, I appreciate the Cree songs, even though this comment is a bit hilarious lol
Those drums are the perfect thing to get you pumped for a hexagonal war, I thought this was from the Canadian civ since they were next to each other while I was playing lol. I would wait to complete a turn just to hear one of these through to the end
You're an European that just discovered this land. There is night, you've pitched a tent in a forest as one of explorers to chart maps and you hear this. That must have been astonishing and terrifying at the same time.
I was playing U.S on Earth true start, kept hearing this pop up throughout my turns. I ended up falling in love and protected the Cree with everything I had
I posted pow wow videos on Reddit and people were asking of it was from a video game and someone shared this, so I'm here. I love it. I'm Cree so that makes it even better.
Here's a neat fact: Poundmaker gained his name for his ability to lead buffalo into "pounds". A pound was a sort of manmade enclosure resembilng a corral, where the buffalo were trapped and slaughtered. According to tradition, Poundmaker could entice a lead buffalo to lead her herd into the pound by drumming and singing a special song. Source: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poundmaker
y'know, the melody really reminds me of Eagle's theme from Killer Instinct... That's a good thing in my eyes, Killer Instinct has some incredible pieces.
Playing as Cyrus, Persian theme playing: "something in the background, don't really give a damn" Cree theme playing: HEYA HEYA AHAHA YOHO HEYA HEYA AHAHA YOHO
For medieval, they should have referenced Metis and Lithuanian cultures, since these cultures were late to be Christianized. Also, Inuit Sacred Music. That's an interesting before and after gauge, where before Christianity, the music is stone aged, after Christianity, it's brought up to speed with the modern era. It's a good prototype.
This Quora answer by Erik Painter is very detailed in explaining how vocalizations for plains tribes are constrcuted: www.quora.com/Do-the-vocalizings-often-heard-in-Native-American-music-carry-particular-meanings
Yeah, imperialism may be fun in Civ but it just sucks IRL. At least, we can be grateful that not all native peoples were killed, and that many of their practices, cultures, and languages survive to this day even in a reduced state. Perhaps one day, in a more enlightened era...
Aww man, I read Rise and Fall in the title first and all I can visualise in my head are a bunch of men rising and falling on bungee ropes and screaming in panic as they go up and down like they're singing in the song lmao
I like this theme, don't get me wrong. Still, when playing a marathon game against them, it can get pretty annoying to hear the same chants over again.
@@_spectre_1589 Infact no land belongs to anybody on this world. We were all nomads in this world for millions of years. Humans are only temporary on this world like the dinosaours before us. Maybe there will be no human race in 100 yrs. I just say that slogan to annoy the Trump supporters in a humourous way. In an ideal world we could all live together in peace but unfrotunately we don't live in an ideal world and human nature is strongly against this sentiment
@@awesomeODST Well I don't know how real Cree music sounded so i can't say if the producer did a good/bad job in making it authentic. What i was refering to as bad was the stoneage version of the song. The tribal drum is wet and gross sounding. The harmony is dissonant and what feels random. The "vibrato" (unsure if that is the correct term) they have in the song is so badly intonated and horrid sounding. It works in the later eras where there is a harmonic backround. But without anything else it sounds like a speciall class music preformance. They also tone down the "vibrato" alot in the later eras. Futher cementing my belifes that it was made to sound unmusical. To summerize it's an overinviting song with a basic meldoy with dissonat acompenying harmony. There is nothing in the backround to justify the broken harmony. It is not a good track for backround music. It's fluctuations in volume is extremly anyoing too. In the end it comes down to musical preference. If this is how their music sounded in reality, I feel very sorry for them. Is it strange that I don't enjoy it?
@@bullar400 Typical white's logic, musics of different parts of the world were very different from each others. Just because it don't follow the rules of "your" kind of music doesn't mean it's bad
АЛЕКСАНДР ФИЛИПС actually the vocals are by the Poundmaker singers, a Cree group that has been keeping this art form alive for centuries. So yea it’s spot on
When I first played as cree and heard this I thought "all this howling is gonna get old fast" but then 10:35 hit me right in the face and manly tears where shed and proud cree nationalism exploded in my heart. (I still lost tho)
Personally I feel like 14:34 sounds way better but that’s my preference
Yep. Seriously good work. That's either one gifted writer, or he did a boat load of research ... or both. Whatever it is, the outcome is gorgeous.
@@Julia-lk8jn I feel like Christopher tin set the bar so freaking High that any Civ music must be special
@@kerred yeah, baba yetu set the bar so high
ironically the Cree people disliked their characterization in this game lmao
I am 0% Cree and this theme makes me proud of being Cree
yes
I am like 1/4 Cree and this makes me feel happy to see in a game i love
@@Jay-vv6wl being an actual first nations member, this music makes me proud of who i am ( im shoshone, not cree )
I’m only Eskimo, and this makes me proud of being cree.
@Eric Kassebaum You should check out civ5 then, the Shoshone people are a playable civilization in that game
Real Cree hours, sustainably hunt bison if you’re up
Rồng Well, your name fits.
Rồng nah bison and buffalo are two different species though belong in the same biological family.
Let's make our global culture sustainable, for all eternity!
@@Jailytics it’s bison
Moose meat 🥩 tastes yummy
Its interesting that this is the only civ that fully maintains the vocals motifs of the ancient era throughout the entire game. Other civs if they have vocals they are often replaced with modern instruments (Medieval Era Russia Kalinka vs Industrial Era) which shows how proud they are of their heritage even after the oppressive treatment from colonists and forced adaptation into a rapidly changing world, that they will never lose touch with their roots.
Many civs keep the vocals, in fact I think only Ethiopia leaves them behind? As far as I remember anyway.
Still, I like your interpretation anyway.
Some civs also gain vocals in later eras, such as the Ottoman industrial theme or Russia's atomic one.
But I agree that the vocals in this one feel the most proudly defiant
Well if you look at First Nations music a lot of it even modern day has been about the vocals the chanting and lyrics remember most of these cultural s did not write down history but passed it on trough song and oral teaching
Byzantium
ironically the Cree people disliked their characterization in this game lmao
This was perfection. It brought back many memories of when my family and I would attend the Pow Wow in the Kumeyaay nation with our dear family-friend who was a retired tribal member. The earth literally shaking from the power of the voices and drums, the stories being told throughout each song and dance as well as the strong bonds amongst each other. Not a single spark of hatred or judging glance. This music represents that.
The pow wow was the last time we spent time together before they passed on. Miss you always and thank you for all the wisdom and smiles you have brought upon us. Eyaay ahan.
Thank you for your post, I'm sorry for your loss, but as time moves on we suffer hardships and grief. It molds us and those that continue to walk forward will continue to better the world and If you want, keep your family blood line going on.
Stay strong my friend, for the native americans have not yet gone, and you are an example of one of them.
Beautiful ❤
The atomic era is stuck in my head because I play as Germany and go for science victory while the Cree are in my game. I'm screaming at my Hansa to build the space ships faster while the Cree are dominating in religion and diplomacy. The drums feel like a count down to see who will get the winning score the fastest.
Who won?
I was Rome. Built a powerful empire, destroyed cities, and manipulated the world into wars but as soon as I met Cree and the music hit..... that hit me. Never in a game it made me emotional and not invade them. I gave them 1000g upon greeting. Helping them if any dared to invade them. I’m my world all Indian tribes will always live in peace. If only in this world.
Indians?? Sorry but he is not Indian at all
in civ 5 you had to stop hiawatha early or he'd spam cities across the map infinitely
All nation shall be conquered!
@@bloxknight1145 American Indians - Native Americans
The term "Indian," in reference to the original inhabitants of the American continent, is said to derive from Christopher Columbus, a 15th century boat-person. Some say he used the term because he was convinced he had arrived in "the Indies" (Asia), his intended destination.
That's how they gitcha
Am I the only one who thinks all of Poundmaker's themes slap? Granted, I'm already a fan of A Tribe Called Red so I'm used to the vocal style, but I think Plains traditional music is so beautiful.
It's absolutely amazing and I 100% agree with you. I learned about the Cree through this game, and now I wish I were part of that amazing cultural heritage.
Pimpass name
When the Ancestry test says you're 0.0001% First Nations:
But the Cree were Canadian
@@NoahHalfSquid I know. Native American can refer to all peoples who lived in the americas pre-contact, not just those in the United States. The term is in fact too broad though, so I'll change it.
@@agaz3232 It was exactly what you had to says. No need to changed
XDDDDD
Mine said literally a dilutedblood Quantum of 0.2% Northern Canadian/ American
*I am Poundmaker, and I represent the Cree. May there always be peace between us.*
Declares war on me 2 seconds later
@@gigachadus1546 "Poland, Spain and France declared war on you by an alliance"
Hi, someone told me that in my previous life I was a Cree tribal chief, from 1628 to 1710......
That’s such a bomb-ass suit
he dapper af
The only Civilization I regularly use. Since I'm Teton Lakota Sioux? I have to represent our Ancestors from other tribes. Man.....I really feel this Cree music. Especially later when the drums come in. They did marvelous with this music.
Hey! I have some Sioux tribe ancestry as well!
I'm Shoshone and Chippewa Cree, im glad to see representation in this game and the last one they made too
Algonquin here, and I agree. The music is the main reason why I always put the Cree in every game I start.
Currently hoping the final addition to the New Frontier Pass is the Iroquois
I think the cree empire in the game is a cop off of the iron confederacy so there may have been some Sioux in the "cree" empire.
@@maddoxbellrose7679 I am sure there was. Elders spoke of not just trade with the Iron Confederacy, but coordinated military action on both sides of the US/Canada border. The Cree best fighters were the Plains Natives. Sitting Bull even escaped to the safety of Canada before both Governments' started c racking down on them. One of their reasons? They "claimed" there were British Indians among the ranks and Montanans feared from attacks on both sides.
00:00 Ancient
03:56 Medieval
09:01 Industrial
13:30 Atomic
He looks so cool!
indeed.
totaly chilled. (and probably loves to smoke some shit xD)
most sympathic ruler of all civilisations.
The theme slaps and he's got a sick fit!? Mans is a straight G
He had to do it to em.
That medieval is on point
I prefer the Industrial theme
Medieval soooooo good
Civ ost is heaven if you like fusion. Sure there's ethnic fusion and thematic osts everywhere, but where else would you be able to hear this kind of music this consistently and the closest to authentic?
Regards from Poland to any Cree, Apache, Cheyenne, Cherokee, etc any Indian Amerian out there. Beautiful music!
It's American Indian. Indian American means people from the country of India.
The industrial theme is like in an alternate timeline where the Cree pulled a move similar to the Japanese in the later half of the 19th century. Like they modernized( be it through science, espionage, plain old copying) so quick in the 1810’s they were actually formidable and formed a nation state, skipping over 1500 years of development. Arguably more impressive than the Japanese modernization on our own timeline.
That premise would be an Interesting book/TV seres.
Atomic Cree runs with the cyberbuffalo...
To do that while also maintaining their sustainable environmental practices would be insane
Ooo! Ooo I like this! World building on point.
They did such a good job
the Cree people disliked their characterization in this game lmao
@@ricksouza9299 oh
@@ricksouza9299 why
3:55
9:00
13:30
Based timestamp poster
Legend
Gotta say Poundmaker dresses damn well
The drip is so amazing. A combination of traditional Cree and European attire.
@@dango6266 true, when i first met him(with no clue of who he is), i thought he was like a european/westernized native leader lol he looks handsome with that classic tribal hairstyle(?).
HHUUAAAAAAAAAAYYEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUAAAAAEEEEAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHEEEEEEEEUUUUUUUAAAAAAEEEEEEEEEUH
@@Jailytics *UUUUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA*
Rồng +1 this theme is one of the best on this game, with no lyrics and with the power of chords
@@arroutado *HUEHAHAAEHAAAHUEAHAAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA*
Rồng I’m a quarter cree and grew up on a res. And I found this comment hilarious lol
Well, if you have a good spirit you can laugh at that comment, but in the end, I appreciate the Cree songs, even though this comment is a bit hilarious lol
Those drums are the perfect thing to get you pumped for a hexagonal war, I thought this was from the Canadian civ since they were next to each other while I was playing lol.
I would wait to complete a turn just to hear one of these through to the end
Funnily enough the Cree are Canadian
@@NoahHalfSquid technically the canadian are cree
I really like how there's a new theme for every age, a really nice touch that makes the game even better.
I'm proud to be a Native Music to me is life and the Cree are (in my opinion) the best at tribal music
✅
@@jotarokujo8142 the Giga Chad himself gave me a thumbs up
Cree and Mongolia are disputing the first place for the best ancient theme.
You're an European that just discovered this land. There is night, you've pitched a tent in a forest as one of explorers to chart maps and you hear this. That must have been astonishing and terrifying at the same time.
wow the singers sound deadly
I was playing U.S on Earth true start, kept hearing this pop up throughout my turns. I ended up falling in love and protected the Cree with everything I had
The Love and Compassion shown in Games to foreing Civs is sadly not represented in the real World...tragedy.
Jesus what is it with civ and it’s sound track?! The music is mind blowing
Seriously one of the best, if not THE best soundtrack I’ve heard from any game. This is pure art, they better have won some awards for this.
The Industrial theme is so moving, I think it's my favorite variation. It's pretty close race for each version though.
I love it, listening every day
I always look forward to the Native American civs when a game comes out, they always have the best soundtracks IMO.
Legit every other ancient era theme: calm
Cree: *śçêæmïñg ñœïseëš īñtęñšïfÿ*
Kupe: *haka intensifies*
this is me when i step into a hall away full of legos
i love it! greetings from eastern europe
0:04 pov: its midnight and you just hit your toe on the sofa
I posted pow wow videos on Reddit and people were asking of it was from a video game and someone shared this, so I'm here. I love it. I'm Cree so that makes it even better.
They call him Poundmaker cause' he be' poundin' on dem' war drums.
Here's a neat fact: Poundmaker gained his name for his ability to lead buffalo into "pounds". A pound was a sort of manmade enclosure resembilng a corral, where the buffalo were trapped and slaughtered. According to tradition, Poundmaker could entice a lead buffalo to lead her herd into the pound by drumming and singing a special song.
Source: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poundmaker
0:11 when I step on lego
Made me spit my drink
I don't know anything about the cree, or really any native American tribes, but damn they're music is good. It just gives me the F E E L Z
Medieval is kind of sad. (in a good way I mean)
Noble and manly music invigorate's my spirit.
Tansi, I agree with you my Nichi.
y'know, the melody really reminds me of Eagle's theme from Killer Instinct...
That's a good thing in my eyes, Killer Instinct has some incredible pieces.
Please make the rest of the leader's rise and fall playlists, greatly appreciate both videos!
Playing as Cyrus, Persian theme playing: "something in the background, don't really give a damn"
Cree theme playing: HEYA HEYA AHAHA YOHO HEYA HEYA AHAHA YOHO
holy shit 7:50 dragon ball z reference
Dang, they went almost full on acapella the first snippet... was genuinely startled to hear instruments when it switched to Medieval! Lol
When you stub your toe:
HUAAAAAAAAAAAEEEEEAAAAEOAHAOAEOOOOOO 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
5:04 Luffy One Piece ressurrection of Joy Boy
For medieval, they should have referenced Metis and Lithuanian cultures, since these cultures were late to be Christianized. Also, Inuit Sacred Music. That's an interesting before and after gauge, where before Christianity, the music is stone aged, after Christianity, it's brought up to speed with the modern era. It's a good prototype.
its so great!
thumbs up
My favorite leader❤
Anyone has the lyrics?
AaaAAAaaAAaaAaaaAaaAaAAA, Wey-hAahaahaaAAA x99999. Here you go. 😂
A
Native Americans don’t really have lyrics, it’s just something we learn and retain over time.
@@dillonchavez5390 Thanks!
This Quora answer by Erik Painter is very detailed in explaining how vocalizations for plains tribes are constrcuted:
www.quora.com/Do-the-vocalizings-often-heard-in-Native-American-music-carry-particular-meanings
such a fucking banger
Poor native americans they loosed all of their Land 😥
they still have some land
Nearly every civilization has lost land, I'm just glad they are so adamant at keeping their traditions and culture alive
Not just our land, but our history, our language, our dignity, and our lives.
Yeah, imperialism may be fun in Civ but it just sucks IRL. At least, we can be grateful that not all native peoples were killed, and that many of their practices, cultures, and languages survive to this day even in a reduced state. Perhaps one day, in a more enlightened era...
Ask The Gods.
Based.
Aww man, I read Rise and Fall in the title first and all I can visualise in my head are a bunch of men rising and falling on bungee ropes and screaming in panic as they go up and down like they're singing in the song lmao
I am proud to be Cree even though I'm Middle Eastern.
5:05
Ahhhhhhhhhh wahehya wehaya
4:57 why you gotta be so powerful?
this shit is lit
I like this theme, don't get me wrong. Still, when playing a marathon game against them, it can get pretty annoying to hear the same chants over again.
When you are Poland in 1939:
When you can't count on the English and French and all the other "allies" that betrayed you.
When hanging out with the Vietnamese in Vietnam and your lover’s country gets invaded by the french. *_*
make America, Native American again!!
@@_spectre_1589 Infact no land belongs to anybody on this world. We were all nomads in this world for millions of years. Humans are only temporary on this world like the dinosaours before us. Maybe there will be no human race in 100 yrs. I just say that slogan to annoy the Trump supporters in a humourous way. In an ideal world we could all live together in peace but unfrotunately we don't live in an ideal world and human nature is strongly against this sentiment
@@Geckotrbased.
Almost makes me wish we didnt wipe out these folk
We still here my man just not as much though lol
😂 😐
It's cool that they did this but it sounds like nails on chalkboard at times, I'm sorry.
I love it all the way through actually!
How very “Christian” of you.
If this is what passes for music, my groaning on the loo after one too many onion bhajis must be a recital.
Still, this got more rhythm than you shitting
Uncultured Swine.
Take your white supremacy ass back to the 1600s 😊
People when opinion:
this music is a nightmare!!!
that's what General Custer thought, at the Battle of the Little Bighorn
You are likely the nightmare
Absolutley terrible music. Had to restart the game because of it. I hope i never have to hear this noice again.
Is that sarcasm or what?
Uncultured swine
@@awesomeODST Well I don't know how real Cree music sounded so i can't say if the producer did a good/bad job in making it authentic.
What i was refering to as bad was the stoneage version of the song. The tribal drum is wet and gross sounding. The harmony is dissonant and what feels random. The "vibrato" (unsure if that is the correct term) they have in the song is so badly intonated and horrid sounding. It works in the later eras where there is a harmonic backround. But without anything else it sounds like a speciall class music preformance. They also tone down the "vibrato" alot in the later eras. Futher cementing my belifes that it was made to sound unmusical.
To summerize it's an overinviting song with a basic meldoy with dissonat acompenying harmony.
There is nothing in the backround to justify the broken harmony.
It is not a good track for backround music. It's fluctuations in volume is extremly anyoing too.
In the end it comes down to musical preference.
If this is how their music sounded in reality, I feel very sorry for them.
Is it strange that I don't enjoy it?
@@bullar400 Typical white's logic, musics of different parts of the world were very different from each others. Just because it don't follow the rules of "your" kind of music doesn't mean it's bad
AlSo I cHeCkEd YoUr ChAnNeL, your music isn't that good either
Are they actually saying something or is the more racist shit ?
АЛЕКСАНДР ФИЛИПС actually the vocals are by the Poundmaker singers, a Cree group that has been keeping this art form alive for centuries. So yea it’s spot on
"Racist shit" What are you on about? You can't be as stupid as you sound surely.
@@johanadisunno1476 so the answer is...neither?
@@DarianTrinity its more like tribal chanting, but yes neither real words, or racist shit lol