I daily the Signal and the classic in combination. People like to say the hammer on the signal is a gimmick but I have absolutely beat the snot out of it and it’s been as good as a hammer for most tasks. Plus the design of the hammer works as a prybar as well. The classic fills in the scissor and tweezer gap for a solid all around set. The only thing I’d like is a true file
you might like the bibury 22 in-one its a cheaper clone of the signal but it has a file and scissors along with some other tools. basically a combo of the wave and signal
ultralight backpackers will find the smallest SAK they can find, hike 200 miles, and use it exactly zero times. Because you don't need a knife to go backpacking. There is literally nothing that you will need to cut. Ever.
Andrew is an ultralight hiker, so for him to recommend the victorianox, could just as well have recomended a scalpel blade, its just a string cutter. on a forum post 14 years ago he was asing for multi tool advice, so i would take his advice with a pinch of salt. a multi tool is to cover emergencies and be usefull, part of altralight is that you are spending more on lightweight, or cutting back and not having things for emergencies. the signal is a great tool, personally i carry the surge every day. theres no way i could use that victianox for anything apart from opening boxes., its more of a ladies handbag knife ( blade, scissors, nailfile) it in no way compares to a normal multi tool, loads of otehr hiking and survival guides recommend full multi tools, often leatherman.
@@hvacbudget8600 if the title was dont take the signal thru hiking or whatever its called, that id agree with more. you need to bear in mind the safety aspect, thru hikers like everest climbers are taking a risk. for most hikers safety is important, and to keep gear repaired so you dont die from the elements is an important factor....if someone keeps signal on belt and loses pack, they ahve a lot of survival and emergency tools on them...
@@neoaliphant Definitely! Thru hiking is totally different than what most people do, but it's an interesting discussion.😀 For instance for the longest time I thought the military should still carry bayonets for a backup weapon. So I think it is interesting to look at things from a different perspective. Sometimes I wonder if we get marketed tools that really aren't what would be the best for the job at hand. Really appreciate all the input on this topic.
@@hvacbudget8600 i know some bishcrafters who use bayonets, or at least some of the odlerb army issue knives, machetes as well are in quite a few retired SAS members garden sheds. i think the signal is great but it replicates some other items i already had, and i love the tshank of the surge as i often use a hacksaw blade....and the pliers i use all the time, but its great that theers large a range of leatherman. some of the brands liek gerber, have really ugly curved tools however. something for everyone....
I would like to add that you’ll only hear about the people that carry so little that have survived the hike but never the ones that carried little and didn’t make it back.
The people who need good tools usually buy the cheapest and crappyest tools. I went on a little trip with my electric bicycle and found 2 coworkers fishing there, 8-9 km away to the city. They had a ridiculously ugly and bad folder and under 10euros headlamp. They both are way better payed then me because they work alot overtime while i dont work overtime ever. They are simply cheap.
Came here to watch a video about the Leatherman signal. All you talked about was how much lighter the other tools are. If you're that concerned about weight maybe you should take a sharpened paper clip with you
Let's be realistic about this. We aren't going on a survival mission, but a hike: You will not use a can opener while hiking (and virtually all cans these days have a pull tab), everything can be a bottle opener (if you for whatever reason bring a beer??), You likely won't need big af pliers just for hiking. I CAN see a hammer being useful but then again... small rocks exist outdoors. What you might need is a knife, scissors (~cutting bandaids, nails), tweezers (splinters, etc.), a needle with a thread for emergency repairs. The signal doesn't even come with tweezers. More importantly: Hiking is not EDC. You can plan your gear, you can and should put in tweezers, scissors in your first aid pack etc. So you can supplement whatever the tool of your choice is missing. With the added benefit of being able to leave at home what you don't need. To me, pliers are non-negotiable (if I have to emergency-sew something, it's SO handy do have something to force a needle through thick fabric), so I would likely pack something like the Nextool Mini Flagship.
I know the Vic Classic is rated by ultralight hikers but the blade is just a bit small to be cutting bits of salami or cheese, I guess if you're just eating packaged freeze dried stuff it's fine though. Pair it up with a Vic Farmer though and it's a different story, you've got the small blade and scissors for hygiene and first aid, and some light bushcrafting tools - blade, saw & reamer - plus can opener / bottle opener. I am looking at it through European eyes though, US thru hikers are different I suppose. Day hikers in Germany and Austria would take some of what you call summer sausage, cheese, unsliced bread, and bottled beer. Anyway I never thought it makes sense to have a bit driver on an outdoors multitool, removable bits are asking to get lost in the outdoors.
Thats a very good point, the small blade would definitely make an interesting medical only tool, easy to keep sterile and seperate. i use a bit driver all the time, but then i use it for work. if you have a vehicle, more need for bit driver, but then more likely to have a toolbox, but then some stoves, tabls etc might need repairing with bit driver.
I do a 2-blade pairing but I go just a bit larger on each, Ambassador+Trailmaster. It’s a great combination with very little overlap and the saw on the Trailmaster is magnificent. The Ambassador stays on my keychain always, it’s such a great size!
@@janetsbrick i do leatherman surge, plus buck smidgen for food prep ( also emergency harpoon head) and gerber artefact to save the prybar of surge. i live with my surge on my belt for edc, tricky with UK laws but every time im out im generally working....
Been using the micra since the late 90’s. It’s been on every keychain I’ve had since. Just an all around tool to have at all times. No pliers but…. I’ve bought/looked at alternatives and until recently I am now finding something close in comparison. The Vic was my childhood favorite.
The classic sd is so handy and the scissors are tough. If you use it and abuse it on a hike it will survive and if you are patient and creative you can create tools for hammering and digging and tongs from sticks. But if you want it done right now and need pliers with a strong grip, bring a spirit x or any other midsized plierbased multitool.
Pure Hiking, yes that's true. No need for a big knife. For many other applications, the best knife is different. But as I typically write/say in this kind of discussion: it depends on what you do. There is more then one kind of hiking, some have camping in between, some survival elements, some bush crafting And then the ideal knife changes.
The Signal is my favorite hiking multi tool. Love it! I also carry a SAK Huntsman. Signal on my belt and the SAK in my day pack. I set my Huntsman up with the Firefly system giving me two emergency fire starting options. I also carry a 1/2” X 6” fire rod on my main fire kit and use that for daily use. But I love having the emergency options on both multi tools.
I wonder how many people go hiking in the woods and have the need to tighten or loosen screws. It's all a matter of personal choice and requirement as to what you consider a perfect hiking or camping tool. So, to each his own. Great video as always👍. Kudos from NYC🗽.
A screwdriver is great if you have camera gear... I do like to have a keychain plier based multi-tool purely for grabbing hot pots off a stove or using them on broken zippers.
I was on a kayak trip with my friend and his steering broke down. Luckily I had my leatherman on me. True it wasn't a hiking trip but the point is, you never know
If the weight dofference between those multitools is a lot for somebody, I recommend that person to exercise before going in the wild hiking alone. It’s not that much weight difference, and like they say, it’s better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
I’m not sure I’m understanding you. Are you saying that the author of the book is right because he’s hiked 30,000 miles, not because what he’s saying is correct? Lighter is only better if you can still do the needed jobs. It’s much lighter to go without a first aid kit… But not advisable.
So I am just trying to think about what do we actually need in a multi-tool. This author survived all these miles with this minimalist gear that might have been wise or unwise but it was accomplished. Do we need to follow the overprepared, under prepared as some would call them or is there a logical middle ground. There is a trend at times where something like the PST which would have been worn perhaps years ago even by working men is now replaced by the much larger Surge. Is there a better tool for the outdoor community? Maybe there isn't.
@@hvacbudget8600 I sit corrected. My apologies. I *think* (and am probably wrong) that the best tool is determined by the mission. I know ultralight backpackers. I think they have some great ideas. One of them is “hey, do I really NEED to have this in my backpack?” It’s the right question. I know people that think you aren’t backpacking if your pack weighs less than 75 pounds… The problem that I often see is people confusing the mission they’re on. If you are an ultralight backpacker, your goal is the trail, the hike, covering ground. If you’re a bushcrafter your goal is camping and making things. If someone said, “I’m a bushcrafter and I love using a Signal,” I would see why they say that. It makes sense. If the goal is ultralight backpacking, then I understand why someone would choose the SWAK you showed. Most people I know crossover. They use a lot of ultralight gear and do some camping and making things too… THIS is when it’s hard to identify what the best tool for that scenario is. I have a Gerber Dual Power in my Jeep because it’s good for nuts and bolts and mechanical repairs. I carry the new Leatherman Arc on me. I would use neither one camping (I’d use the Signal). And if my goal was ultralight backpacking? I’d try to get away with the Gerber Curve…. Feel free to flambé me ;)
@@EverettVinzant Great well thought out ideas! I think that makes much more sense than what some overseas companies are doing; labeling a mishmash of knives and tools as survival tools.
@@hvacbudget8600 “how does including a bottle opener make it a ‘survival tool’?”“it’s a survival tool because it does more than one thing” “But it’s a tarp….”
I guess if you are just talking about hiking where you don't plan on making a fire (cutting wood) or prepping food then this makes sense. Even on short local hikes I occasionally use the saw on my SAK to clear branches from the trail.
Yesterday I took a stroll around neighborhood. I was literally only about 1km away from home and I immediately missed my leatherman wave as there where branches to clear.
For though who thinks that it’s mad to bring just a tiny penknife to a through hike: ultralight hikers brings with them a system and not individual tools. So the whole gear have some redundancy and dual use, and chosen to be reliable. It’s unlikely that you will need anything more than a simple pair of scissors for first aid. For my through hike, I did bring a minichamp. I like having secondary blade for things that needs a cutting edge that is kept clean. Also the pen is really nice to have around. The blade is big enough to cut up sausages, you just need to be a little patient.
I have the SAk Classic Alox, so light I sometimes forget it's there. I usually keep it in my change pocket, it's always handy when you need it. When hiking I usually bring my Gerber NXT. Cheers 🇨🇦
I know absolutely no one that would recommend a full size Leatherman for distance hiking lol😂. Most have a Vic classic, a small titanium blade, or something like a squirt. I personally carry a Mora companion paired with a Gerber Dime. The dime comes in handy for finger nail trimming, and tasks like removing a hot pot or occasional splitter with the tweezers (which aren't bad if you grind them to a point). The companion is the beater knife that performs way above it's price.
@@hvacbudget8600 if I know I'm going to want a saw/ I'm just going on a day hike I always bring a silky F180. In my personal opinion, best small foldable saw you can get when it comes to weight to performance.
@@hvacbudget8600 I still keep a full sized multitool in my glovebox when car camping... I used the crap out of my Flissa this week while camping. Used the file to flatten the back of the head of my Fiskars X7 to be used as a hammer for tent stakes and used the diamond file to reprofile the blade when my wife chopped right into some rocks... Used the small saw to craft a trash bag holder. Used the scissors to actually cut the aluminum windscreen I had. Needed a slot for the gas line of one of my stoves. Had to use the pliers to remove some stakes and to repair a broken zipper on a tent. Also the back of the saw works really well on a ferro rod which I like to use for starting the trangia alcohol stove.
Glad I still have a leatherman squirt ps4.. actually 3 of them and one is still in the box. Stocked up once I heard they were being discontinued. I keep it on my keychain so it's always with me
if I could only chose one for general use - I'd have a mora bushcraft knife. I'm not convinced anyone done 30,000 miles doing anything other than staying in hotels with a tonne of guides arranged and room service with what is little more than a third rate nail file. you'd struggle to make tent pegs or carve poles in the wild with that Victorinox thing. in a real - down-the-line survival situation you'd want the biggest, and strongest MF knife you could get. people in Indonesia use the parang etc not a pair of tweezers or a tooth pick to get through bamboo and mangrove.
Signal for light hiking and mostly for camping. Classic for keychains and minor Day to Day needs. For ultra light long distance hiking? A Camper/Hiker at minimum. A more robust knife with a few more tools will be worth the ounce.
Don’t let them change your mind! Your bayonet is awesome! Haha thanks for the insight, very useful video and glad to hear from an experienced source. Cheers!
I through hiked Pacific Crest Trail in 2022. Started out with a Mora Kansbol and a Victorinox Huntsman. Once I got more comfortable around bears, hitch-hiking and fire bans went into effect I sent the Kansbol home. The Huntsman had everything I needed and more. The hook, corkscrew, toothpick and small blade were unused. To me the ultimate ultralight hiking SAK would be a Victorinox Compact with a saw and an awl. Ideally it would also be locking and one hand opening as well. FWIW I EDC a Leatherman Wave or Spirit MX.
I take a manager, you get a bottle opener and a pen in it too it's very nice. But useully end up with larger knife too as it's easier to prep my food, and usefully to be able to make tent stakes etc. Nothing huge a camper or maybe a forester if I want a "real" knife. A corkscrew is useful too, particularly in Europe 👌
Hiking and Camping are 2 different things! For a Hike i too would take nothing more than a Leatherman Squirt and maybe a Vic. Huntsman as my only tools. I don't intend to build a permanent shelter. But for Camping i bring the full batman belt! But there i do not expect to walk for hours at a time instead i plan on building a shelter and cooking.
Excellent point. I think what happens is bushcraft, thru hiking, camping, off roading can get lumped all together when very different tool sets might be carried for each different activity.
Leatherman Micra is very expensive now. $70,00 USD. A SAK tinker along with a 4" Knipex plier is good. For scissors i use those medical type EMP shears, they'll cut through a penny. I'm alway lacking a file unless i carry a full size nail file in my EDC bag, they're light. A wallet size piece of any sand paper is helpful.
I’ve used the Gerber Dime while camping. The pliers worked well for handling hot pot bail and lids. I also think the Dime blade would be better for food prep, albeit still small.
@@seanrobinson6407 The Dime breaks? Had and used mine for years without a failure, but any tool can fail, especially if stressed beyond their design. Batoning with a knife kills me. That is not a designed use for most knives, so of course many fail. Use the right tool.
How do you reply if batoning kills you, and how do you respawn? But seriously, dimes have a bad reputation for failure under normal use. Don't strawman my statement, because I said nothing about batoning or using tools beyond their intended purpose. Batoning with a dime is absurd to even imagine, so I don't know where you are going with that. Plus, I think you are a chat bot anyway. I use the right tool, I assure you. 😂
Less is more …… an old wisdom. What should be the purpose of all these tools in the wilderness? The can opener and the knife and the scissors….. ok. Anything else useful - again: in the wilderness? For a one or two days trip. Nope - IMHO. BTW - I am hunter and hiker ….. so I own knifes, saws and tools and I am able to make use of them. You will always have to make a compromise - the perfect „one that kills them all“ (deers, bears, trees and Russians) exists only in Hollywood. And to be honest: should only be used in Hollywood as well …. My equipment for a longer trip in the woods - let’s say a week - would be something like the Victorinox Venture Pro package and maybe a multitool (depends on the storage capacity) - but the latter would be optional. And of course I would carry an axe ….. a light one but a good one.
i can't get into sak. i do carry a signal for pretty much everything. the blades on LM are to me anyway are significantly more beefy than any sak that i've ever owned.
"hiking" and "survival" are two different things, so the question at the end is not the same question as was first asked. For survival you need something that can baton firewood, build a shelter, make a fire set, or cut down a sapling. None of those little tools, as nice as they are for hiking, would cut the mustard. I've seen it done with a SOG with a saw blade, but honestly the extra effort it requires and the resulting tool damage isn't worth the saving in weight. For purely hiking on set trails, any of those little multi tools would be just fine.
I have always considered many SAK models to be the ideal go to for outdoors hiking and camping. The Leatherman Signal is also useful for camping, with other useful tools, its main value being whistle n Hammer tool. (SAK easily mods a small Fire stick and fire tender so no need to count it). The four stacks or more SAK can also pass for a cringe thwacker Hammer. So can a rock. For me I carry a Signal everyday but I use it for work with a few mods. Wave Scissors replace can opener, t-shank adaptor replaces wood saw, Eric AU razor blade attachment replaces combo knife. I feel that Signal design is so close to being a perfect or upscale (compared to skeletool) urban carry. I have used other multitools at work too many times as a thwacker-hammer not to have that implemented in edc tool. And who doesnt want a rape whistle in their edc right lol jk jk.
You make a really good point about how the Leatherman Signal shines at almost being a heavy duty skeletool! The Leatherman style, skeletool and Signal really do a good job of giving people a competitive lightweight toolset!!
Nice! The Signal is also one of my favourites, at par with my SAK Huntsman and the SAK EvoGrip S17 (bout with the tiny fire ant). My favourite (by a really small margin) is the S17 but only because of the scissors AND locking blade! Now, replacing the can opener with the wave scissors is brilliant! Is it a simple swap? Thanks in advance! If I pull this one (with your tips ;-) ), the Signal will become my favorite for sure!
@josepaixao6519 I would say it is just a swap out, and it kind of is. However, the scissors will have to be on the other side of the bit driver. So left to right it will be Awl/Bit Driver/scissor. This is to keep the thumb tab out of the way. There are some pics around the multitool modding forums. You could also swap out the wood saw for Wingman scissors as a direct swap (now I haven't done it, I just read about it). I just choose to do wave scissors.
@@michaelmartin2262 Great! Thx for the tip! Yes, I will also keep the saw. I Really don't need the can opener (there are multiple ways to open a can... including with the pliers!) but the scissors are a great swap and greatly used! I do love my SAK S17 but having a better blade (i.e. bigger and stronger) is a big plus. Also, you get to have the pliers, a hammer (?!?)... and a whistle! :P
I’ll take my Scandinavian axe over any knife if I had a choice, as far as weight goes, I think some people are strong but not tough. The other day a guy I knew complained about how heavy my whites logger boots were. I ware them at time for 12 to 18 hours, and comfortable. But we’ll bare foot hiking is lighter. I guess if we want easy, stay at home and watch some one do it. Different strokes for different folks. Have a great day out.
That's an interesting point about the axe. In my childhood I grew up close to people who believed cars were evil and so they rode bicycles up what we called mountains! They definitely would have had a totally different viewpoint on what is heavy or a load as well.
@@hvacbudget8600 hahahhaa! When its come,mean its my time 2 stop collecting LM, starts collecting Daicamping or i move 2 another multiverse which provide LM for its citizen. When i do that, im sure u gonna miss me though 🤣😁
Well I don’t think the Victorinox would be a very good long term, outdoors carrier. Why, well because the steel used is very soft and not very durable. And after using it a few times it would be dull.
On nice well cleared trails (with EMS and S&R available) maybe the classic SD is enough, the secondary forests I bushcraft, hike, camp in...no definitely not, I need a long fixed blade and also prefer a secondary small Mora fixed blade, and the Vic Forester. But then again I don't care for the ultralight aspect overall and prefer to go tool heavy.
That's a fun topic. What a bayonet! And maybe you've felt this--as a collector I can't just bring the boring same-ol' every time! Though there are two that tend to stay in my light hiking bag: 111mm Forester and a Classic SD. During storm season I might ditch the Forester for a 7" folding saw (impassable trails, ugh) and a multi-tool like the Calypso, Schrade Tough Tool, or SOG PowerAssist for things like fallen wire fences. I also like hunting lockbacks for these trips. The lightweight Marbles hunting lockback in Desert Tan for example is a fantastic budget knife for these settings. If in the mood for fun or science, the Vic Explorer or SwissChamp. Feeling patriotic and nostalgic, the Marbles GI Utility, RR G10 Scout, or Imperial BSA Scout. Haha. In fixed, I tend to take a Nisaku-steel Hori Hori if it'll work, because it's somewhat less threatening as open carry. Thanks for the fun video & take care.
Wow you basically hit the nail at the end by making this a video about size and weight I’m surprised you didn’t pull out a scale but go ahead and discredit the signal since it weighs 1000lbs
Bringing m7 bayonet to hiking?welp that’s a kind of interesting one cuz if I recall correctly it supposed to be dull,I wonder what you gonna do with it. and btw Vic classic for hiking is pretty impractical,my bottom line of ultralight hiking is Vic camper,at least this size of knives can handle that kind of task
With all respect my friend always is better Carry a serious tool like the Ozark trail multiforce. Not to expensive not too heavy but you can solve many problems with that. If you are hiking or in a bike you can count with something strong not a toy like a the Victorinox. Remember you are miles and miles away from anything. Saludos Amigo
I have Victorinox knives that are a decade old, no issues. Was thrilled to get the Multiforce, but the pliers collapsed while loosening a radiator valve. Buyer beware.
If i wanted a lightweight victoronox id go with the farmer with aluminum handles or a s.o.g powerpint even one of toollogics cc knives would be better than that tiny s.a.k
I love Swiss Army knives but if there is any possibility of needing anything more than the lightest duty, lightest use, I just don't see them being worth very much. If you have to worry so much about weight that you have to carry a multi-tool that light, you really shouldn't be anywhere off a well-established trail because I don't know how much "survival" you could really do with something that light-use. For cost, I am with you, but the weight, if you have to worry THAT much about weight, just don't stray far from civilization.
Ultralight backpackers are fools. Going into the wilderness without a mid-sized fixed blade, a folding saw, a large multitool (Victorinox Swiss Tool is the best), a SAK, a solid folder, and a multiblade knife like a Case Trapper is pure madness
There is one reason, and one reason alone that I will not take a Swiss army knife into the woods. The fact of the matter is they do not have locking blades. If that thing happened to come down and collapse over your finger, I hope to hell you have a suture kit! A locking blade or a fixed blade is a must in my opinion
Don’t believe the videos-go on an actual multi day hike, sleep outside (or in a tent/shelter etc you packed and carried in), a day’s walk/hike from your vehicle. when you get back home, reassess the gear you actually used, and skill sets you used on your hike, then rebuild your hiking load out 🎒 based on the experience of actually surviving on the gear and skills. Lots of variables and each load out will be different depending on each person’s needs and skillsets. Real life is the hardest but best teacher and education!
Is this vid a joke? 😂 a purse knife vs the Signal? 😂 Yes, lighter is better but c'mon?😂 is this vid meant for girl scouts? The Signal is elite compared to the others! If you can't handle the weight of it you are just WEAK!!😂😂😂
You have got to be kidding...you're recommending that people should walk miles in the woods but have tools with vastly inferior capability. This was a bait and switch teaser topic. I hope no one else falls for this crap.
@@VitalyMack Depends on where you hike. Your bare hands against a bear, cougar, feral pig or a pack of coyotes/wolves is not going to end well for you.
@@VitalyMack Weapons are tools. About a decade ago I had conversation with a young lady who was going to hike the Appalachian Trail and was going the ultralite way which was trend back then. I tried to convince her that even if you are three days between supply stops a lot can happen and the tools you don't have with could cost you big time. I was not telling her that she needed full infantry pack and equipment just and extra 5lbs or so. Ultralight camping in the British Isles is probably ok, but not in North America or even in Western or Northern Europe.
@johnshepherd9676 man...5 pounds is a lot of extra weight! Sometimes I'll bring my 357 5 in revolver. But most of the time I just take my light pps Walther 9mm and some bear spray.
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If you want to be light, make your kid carry all the gear.
LoL! I like that!
You and my dad would get along great! 😂
I daily the Signal and the classic in combination. People like to say the hammer on the signal is a gimmick but I have absolutely beat the snot out of it and it’s been as good as a hammer for most tasks. Plus the design of the hammer works as a prybar as well. The classic fills in the scissor and tweezer gap for a solid all around set. The only thing I’d like is a true file
Sounds like you found a great tool combo!
you might like the bibury 22 in-one its a cheaper clone of the signal but it has a file and scissors along with some other tools. basically a combo of the wave and signal
I hike with my 357 Magnum. No other Multi-tool keeps me safer!
ultralight backpackers will find the smallest SAK they can find, hike 200 miles, and use it exactly zero times. Because you don't need a knife to go backpacking. There is literally nothing that you will need to cut. Ever.
Andrew is an ultralight hiker, so for him to recommend the victorianox, could just as well have recomended a scalpel blade, its just a string cutter. on a forum post 14 years ago he was asing for multi tool advice, so i would take his advice with a pinch of salt. a multi tool is to cover emergencies and be usefull, part of altralight is that you are spending more on lightweight, or cutting back and not having things for emergencies. the signal is a great tool, personally i carry the surge every day. theres no way i could use that victianox for anything apart from opening boxes., its more of a ladies handbag knife ( blade, scissors, nailfile) it in no way compares to a normal multi tool, loads of otehr hiking and survival guides recommend full multi tools, often leatherman.
Great perspective. I'm not sure I could ever go that minimal on my gear as the Victorinox either but it's an interesting discussion.
@@hvacbudget8600 if the title was dont take the signal thru hiking or whatever its called, that id agree with more. you need to bear in mind the safety aspect, thru hikers like everest climbers are taking a risk. for most hikers safety is important, and to keep gear repaired so you dont die from the elements is an important factor....if someone keeps signal on belt and loses pack, they ahve a lot of survival and emergency tools on them...
@@neoaliphant Definitely! Thru hiking is totally different than what most people do, but it's an interesting discussion.😀
For instance for the longest time I thought the military should still carry bayonets for a backup weapon. So I think it is interesting to look at things from a different perspective. Sometimes I wonder if we get marketed tools that really aren't what would be the best for the job at hand. Really appreciate all the input on this topic.
@@hvacbudget8600 i know some bishcrafters who use bayonets, or at least some of the odlerb army issue knives, machetes as well are in quite a few retired SAS members garden sheds. i think the signal is great but it replicates some other items i already had, and i love the tshank of the surge as i often use a hacksaw blade....and the pliers i use all the time, but its great that theers large a range of leatherman. some of the brands liek gerber, have really ugly curved tools however. something for everyone....
I would like to add that you’ll only hear about the people that carry so little that have survived the hike but never the ones that carried little and didn’t make it back.
The people who need good tools usually buy the cheapest and crappyest tools. I went on a little trip with my electric bicycle and found 2 coworkers fishing there, 8-9 km away to the city. They had a ridiculously ugly and bad folder and under 10euros headlamp. They both are way better payed then me because they work alot overtime while i dont work overtime ever. They are simply cheap.
Came here to watch a video about the Leatherman signal. All you talked about was how much lighter the other tools are. If you're that concerned about weight maybe you should take a sharpened paper clip with you
Let's be realistic about this. We aren't going on a survival mission, but a hike: You will not use a can opener while hiking (and virtually all cans these days have a pull tab), everything can be a bottle opener (if you for whatever reason bring a beer??), You likely won't need big af pliers just for hiking. I CAN see a hammer being useful but then again... small rocks exist outdoors. What you might need is a knife, scissors (~cutting bandaids, nails), tweezers (splinters, etc.), a needle with a thread for emergency repairs. The signal doesn't even come with tweezers.
More importantly: Hiking is not EDC. You can plan your gear, you can and should put in tweezers, scissors in your first aid pack etc. So you can supplement whatever the tool of your choice is missing. With the added benefit of being able to leave at home what you don't need. To me, pliers are non-negotiable (if I have to emergency-sew something, it's SO handy do have something to force a needle through thick fabric), so I would likely pack something like the Nextool Mini Flagship.
I know the Vic Classic is rated by ultralight hikers but the blade is just a bit small to be cutting bits of salami or cheese, I guess if you're just eating packaged freeze dried stuff it's fine though. Pair it up with a Vic Farmer though and it's a different story, you've got the small blade and scissors for hygiene and first aid, and some light bushcrafting tools - blade, saw & reamer - plus can opener / bottle opener. I am looking at it through European eyes though, US thru hikers are different I suppose. Day hikers in Germany and Austria would take some of what you call summer sausage, cheese, unsliced bread, and bottled beer. Anyway I never thought it makes sense to have a bit driver on an outdoors multitool, removable bits are asking to get lost in the outdoors.
Great points. A bit driver I think definitely would make more sense offroading than through hiking.
Thats a very good point, the small blade would definitely make an interesting medical only tool, easy to keep sterile and seperate. i use a bit driver all the time, but then i use it for work. if you have a vehicle, more need for bit driver, but then more likely to have a toolbox, but then some stoves, tabls etc might need repairing with bit driver.
I do a 2-blade pairing but I go just a bit larger on each, Ambassador+Trailmaster. It’s a great combination with very little overlap and the saw on the Trailmaster is magnificent. The Ambassador stays on my keychain always, it’s such a great size!
@@janetsbrick i do leatherman surge, plus buck smidgen for food prep ( also emergency harpoon head) and gerber artefact to save the prybar of surge. i live with my surge on my belt for edc, tricky with UK laws but every time im out im generally working....
@@janetsbrick Sounds great!
My vote would be for the Victorinox huntsman with a Firefly in the corkscrew. It's relatively lightweight and you have a very capable wood saw.
This is actually an almost perfect match to what I need, thank you so much.
Been using the micra since the late 90’s. It’s been on every keychain I’ve had since. Just an all around tool to have at all times. No pliers but…. I’ve bought/looked at alternatives and until recently I am now finding something close in comparison. The Vic was my childhood favorite.
That's cool!
I have to laugh at this. The last thing I would want is to carry a knife no bigger then my pinky in the woods.
The classic sd is so handy and the scissors are tough. If you use it and abuse it on a hike it will survive and if you are patient and creative you can create tools for hammering and digging and tongs from sticks. But if you want it done right now and need pliers with a strong grip, bring a spirit x or any other midsized plierbased multitool.
Everything is opinion.
Ive carried mine daily into the woods and i wouldnt leave home WITHOUT it.
Note: I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying it's your opinion for your use cases. ✌️
Pure Hiking, yes that's true. No need for a big knife.
For many other applications, the best knife is different.
But as I typically write/say in this kind of discussion: it depends on what you do. There is more then one kind of hiking, some have camping in between, some survival elements, some bush crafting And then the ideal knife changes.
I agree!
The Signal is my favorite hiking multi tool. Love it! I also carry a SAK Huntsman. Signal on my belt and the SAK in my day pack. I set my Huntsman up with the Firefly system giving me two emergency fire starting options. I also carry a 1/2” X 6” fire rod on my main fire kit and use that for daily use. But I love having the emergency options on both multi tools.
Very cool!
I wonder how many people go hiking in the woods and have the need to tighten or loosen screws. It's all a matter of personal choice and requirement as to what you consider a perfect hiking or camping tool. So, to each his own. Great video as always👍. Kudos from NYC🗽.
Thanks! Good point about the screwdriver!
A screwdriver is great if you have camera gear... I do like to have a keychain plier based multi-tool purely for grabbing hot pots off a stove or using them on broken zippers.
I was on a kayak trip with my friend and his steering broke down. Luckily I had my leatherman on me.
True it wasn't a hiking trip but the point is, you never know
the words "from NYC" say it all. smh.
Signal all the way
If the weight dofference between those multitools is a lot for somebody, I recommend that person to exercise before going in the wild hiking alone. It’s not that much weight difference, and like they say, it’s better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
I’m not sure I’m understanding you. Are you saying that the author of the book is right because he’s hiked 30,000 miles, not because what he’s saying is correct? Lighter is only better if you can still do the needed jobs. It’s much lighter to go without a first aid kit…
But not advisable.
So I am just trying to think about what do we actually need in a multi-tool. This author survived all these miles with this minimalist gear that might have been wise or unwise but it was accomplished. Do we need to follow the overprepared, under prepared as some would call them or is there a logical middle ground. There is a trend at times where something like the PST which would have been worn perhaps years ago even by working men is now replaced by the much larger Surge. Is there a better tool for the outdoor community? Maybe there isn't.
@@hvacbudget8600 I sit corrected. My apologies.
I *think* (and am probably wrong) that the best tool is determined by the mission. I know ultralight backpackers. I think they have some great ideas. One of them is “hey, do I really NEED to have this in my backpack?”
It’s the right question. I know people that think you aren’t backpacking if your pack weighs less than 75 pounds…
The problem that I often see is people confusing the mission they’re on. If you are an ultralight backpacker, your goal is the trail, the hike, covering ground.
If you’re a bushcrafter your goal is camping and making things. If someone said, “I’m a bushcrafter and I love using a Signal,” I would see why they say that. It makes sense. If the goal is ultralight backpacking, then I understand why someone would choose the SWAK you showed.
Most people I know crossover. They use a lot of ultralight gear and do some camping and making things too…
THIS is when it’s hard to identify what the best tool for that scenario is. I have a Gerber Dual Power in my Jeep because it’s good for nuts and bolts and mechanical repairs. I carry the new Leatherman Arc on me. I would use neither one camping (I’d use the Signal). And if my goal was ultralight backpacking? I’d try to get away with the Gerber Curve….
Feel free to flambé me ;)
@@EverettVinzant Great well thought out ideas! I think that makes much more sense than what some overseas companies are doing; labeling a mishmash of knives and tools as survival tools.
@@hvacbudget8600 “how does including a bottle opener make it a ‘survival tool’?”“it’s a survival tool because it does more than one thing”
“But it’s a tarp….”
@@EverettVinzant Exactly!
I guess if you are just talking about hiking where you don't plan on making a fire (cutting wood) or prepping food then this makes sense. Even on short local hikes I occasionally use the saw on my SAK to clear branches from the trail.
Makes sense!
Yesterday I took a stroll around neighborhood. I was literally only about 1km away from home and I immediately missed my leatherman wave as there where branches to clear.
@@SuperDeinVaddaif you guys are clearing branches while walking around your neighborhood, you’re doing too much.
For though who thinks that it’s mad to bring just a tiny penknife to a through hike: ultralight hikers brings with them a system and not individual tools. So the whole gear have some redundancy and dual use, and chosen to be reliable. It’s unlikely that you will need anything more than a simple pair of scissors for first aid.
For my through hike, I did bring a minichamp. I like having secondary blade for things that needs a cutting edge that is kept clean. Also the pen is really nice to have around. The blade is big enough to cut up sausages, you just need to be a little patient.
I have the SAk Classic Alox, so light I sometimes forget it's there. I usually keep it in my change pocket, it's always handy when you need it. When hiking I usually bring my Gerber NXT. Cheers 🇨🇦
I know absolutely no one that would recommend a full size Leatherman for distance hiking lol😂. Most have a Vic classic, a small titanium blade, or something like a squirt. I personally carry a Mora companion paired with a Gerber Dime. The dime comes in handy for finger nail trimming, and tasks like removing a hot pot or occasional splitter with the tweezers (which aren't bad if you grind them to a point). The companion is the beater knife that performs way above it's price.
That's a great duo! I think marketing can make it easy to just assume one product is good for everything if it says outdoors, LoL!
@@hvacbudget8600 if I know I'm going to want a saw/ I'm just going on a day hike I always bring a silky F180. In my personal opinion, best small foldable saw you can get when it comes to weight to performance.
@@hvacbudget8600 I still keep a full sized multitool in my glovebox when car camping... I used the crap out of my Flissa this week while camping. Used the file to flatten the back of the head of my Fiskars X7 to be used as a hammer for tent stakes and used the diamond file to reprofile the blade when my wife chopped right into some rocks... Used the small saw to craft a trash bag holder. Used the scissors to actually cut the aluminum windscreen I had. Needed a slot for the gas line of one of my stoves. Had to use the pliers to remove some stakes and to repair a broken zipper on a tent. Also the back of the saw works really well on a ferro rod which I like to use for starting the trangia alcohol stove.
@@AtomicBleach That is really cool, how useful the Flissa is!!!
@@hvacbudget8600 I was honestly surprised the scissors had enough in them to cut the metal. It's probably 1/32" thick.
Swiss army knife tinker is good enough for me. Day hike.
Glad I still have a leatherman squirt ps4.. actually 3 of them and one is still in the box. Stocked up once I heard they were being discontinued. I keep it on my keychain so it's always with me
Smart move!
if I could only chose one for general use - I'd have a mora bushcraft knife. I'm not convinced anyone done 30,000 miles doing anything other than staying in hotels with a tonne of guides arranged and room service with what is little more than a third rate nail file. you'd struggle to make tent pegs or carve poles in the wild with that Victorinox thing. in a real - down-the-line survival situation you'd want the biggest, and strongest MF knife you could get. people in Indonesia use the parang etc not a pair of tweezers or a tooth pick to get through bamboo and mangrove.
Signal for light hiking and mostly for camping. Classic for keychains and minor Day to Day needs. For ultra light long distance hiking? A Camper/Hiker at minimum. A more robust knife with a few more tools will be worth the ounce.
I like my signal I find it perfect beyond perfect best one
Leatherman all the way.
Don’t let them change your mind! Your bayonet is awesome! Haha thanks for the insight, very useful video and glad to hear from an experienced source. Cheers!
LoL! Thanks.
I through hiked Pacific Crest Trail in 2022. Started out with a Mora Kansbol and a Victorinox Huntsman. Once I got more comfortable around bears, hitch-hiking and fire bans went into effect I sent the Kansbol home. The Huntsman had everything I needed and more. The hook, corkscrew, toothpick and small blade were unused. To me the ultimate ultralight hiking SAK would be a Victorinox Compact with a saw and an awl. Ideally it would also be locking and one hand opening as well.
FWIW I EDC a Leatherman Wave or Spirit MX.
Really cool info! Thanks for sharing!
I take a manager, you get a bottle opener and a pen in it too it's very nice.
But useully end up with larger knife too as it's easier to prep my food, and usefully to be able to make tent stakes etc. Nothing huge a camper or maybe a forester if I want a "real" knife.
A corkscrew is useful too, particularly in Europe 👌
Nice!
My prefer sidekick 👍
Hiking and Camping are 2 different things!
For a Hike i too would take nothing more than a Leatherman Squirt and maybe a Vic. Huntsman as my only tools. I don't intend to build a permanent shelter.
But for Camping i bring the full batman belt! But there i do not expect to walk for hours at a time instead i plan on building a shelter and cooking.
Excellent point. I think what happens is bushcraft, thru hiking, camping, off roading can get lumped all together when very different tool sets might be carried for each different activity.
Leatherman Micra is very expensive now. $70,00 USD. A SAK tinker along with a 4" Knipex plier is good. For scissors i use those medical type EMP shears, they'll cut through a penny. I'm alway lacking a file unless i carry a full size nail file in my EDC bag, they're light. A wallet size piece of any sand paper is helpful.
Minimalist kit is alox classic and a walker (blade/saw/combo tool) with a bic lighter.
I like that!
I’ve used the Gerber Dime while camping. The pliers worked well for handling hot pot bail and lids. I also think the Dime blade would be better for food prep, albeit still small.
Good call.
They break.
@@seanrobinson6407 The Dime breaks? Had and used mine for years without a failure, but any tool can fail, especially if stressed beyond their design. Batoning with a knife kills me. That is not a designed use for most knives, so of course many fail. Use the right tool.
How do you reply if batoning kills you, and how do you respawn? But seriously, dimes have a bad reputation for failure under normal use. Don't strawman my statement, because I said nothing about batoning or using tools beyond their intended purpose. Batoning with a dime is absurd to even imagine, so I don't know where you are going with that. Plus, I think you are a chat bot anyway. I use the right tool, I assure you. 😂
And the flat head and Philips bend. Find a ps4 while it's possible
I do not have his skills and experience. I'll stick to my Vic Manager, Rebar, and Joker knife, with a Mora Kansbol in the bag.
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Thank you so much for the kind words!
Less is more …… an old wisdom. What should be the purpose of all these tools in the wilderness? The can opener and the knife and the scissors….. ok. Anything else useful - again: in the wilderness? For a one or two days trip. Nope - IMHO.
BTW - I am hunter and hiker ….. so I own knifes, saws and tools and I am able to make use of them. You will always have to make a compromise - the perfect „one that kills them all“ (deers, bears, trees and Russians) exists only in Hollywood. And to be honest: should only be used in Hollywood as well ….
My equipment for a longer trip in the woods - let’s say a week - would be something like the Victorinox Venture Pro package and maybe a multitool (depends on the storage capacity) - but the latter would be optional. And of course I would carry an axe ….. a light one but a good one.
The best survival tool is the one you have on you when you need it.
I’m a tool head, and rather have it then need it, been loving my bibury tool.
Nice!
Tool logics cc knives and swizas s.a.k models would also be a better option my guess is the hiker only knows that model so thats his reccomendation
Makes sense.
i can't get into sak. i do carry a signal for pretty much everything. the blades on LM are to me anyway are significantly more beefy than any sak that i've ever owned.
I think the Signal is great. For most of us it really checks most boxes
"hiking" and "survival" are two different things, so the question at the end is not the same question as was first asked. For survival you need something that can baton firewood, build a shelter, make a fire set, or cut down a sapling. None of those little tools, as nice as they are for hiking, would cut the mustard. I've seen it done with a SOG with a saw blade, but honestly the extra effort it requires and the resulting tool damage isn't worth the saving in weight.
For purely hiking on set trails, any of those little multi tools would be just fine.
Very good point.
This is crazy, I could not disagree more....
The best SAK for hiking/camping is a 111mm lock blade model with saw.
That sounds more like what I would probably take with me.
There is nothing like going ultralight and just carrying a couple rocks in your pocket. I lap my own knife from them.
I have always considered many SAK models to be the ideal go to for outdoors hiking and camping. The Leatherman Signal is also useful for camping, with other useful tools, its main value being whistle n Hammer tool. (SAK easily mods a small Fire stick and fire tender so no need to count it). The four stacks or more SAK can also pass for a cringe thwacker Hammer. So can a rock. For me I carry a Signal everyday but I use it for work with a few mods. Wave Scissors replace can opener, t-shank adaptor replaces wood saw, Eric AU razor blade attachment replaces combo knife. I feel that Signal design is so close to being a perfect or upscale (compared to skeletool) urban carry. I have used other multitools at work too many times as a thwacker-hammer not to have that implemented in edc tool. And who doesnt want a rape whistle in their edc right lol jk jk.
You make a really good point about how the Leatherman Signal shines at almost being a heavy duty skeletool! The Leatherman style, skeletool and Signal really do a good job of giving people a competitive lightweight toolset!!
Nice! The Signal is also one of my favourites, at par with my SAK Huntsman and the SAK EvoGrip S17 (bout with the tiny fire ant). My favourite (by a really small margin) is the S17 but only because of the scissors AND locking blade! Now, replacing the can opener with the wave scissors is brilliant! Is it a simple swap? Thanks in advance! If I pull this one (with your tips ;-) ), the Signal will become my favorite for sure!
@josepaixao6519 I would say it is just a swap out, and it kind of is. However, the scissors will have to be on the other side of the bit driver. So left to right it will be Awl/Bit Driver/scissor. This is to keep the thumb tab out of the way. There are some pics around the multitool modding forums. You could also swap out the wood saw for Wingman scissors as a direct swap (now I haven't done it, I just read about it). I just choose to do wave scissors.
@@michaelmartin2262 Great! Thx for the tip! Yes, I will also keep the saw. I Really don't need the can opener (there are multiple ways to open a can... including with the pliers!) but the scissors are a great swap and greatly used! I do love my SAK S17 but having a better blade (i.e. bigger and stronger) is a big plus. Also, you get to have the pliers, a hammer (?!?)... and a whistle! :P
You touched on a good point there, if the signal came with the surge file/saw combo it would certainly make a better tool
I’ll take my Scandinavian axe over any knife if I had a choice, as far as weight goes, I think some people are strong but not tough. The other day a guy I knew complained about how heavy my whites logger boots were. I ware them at time for 12 to 18 hours, and comfortable. But we’ll bare foot hiking is lighter. I guess if we want easy, stay at home and watch some one do it. Different strokes for different folks. Have a great day out.
That's an interesting point about the axe. In my childhood I grew up close to people who believed cars were evil and so they rode bicycles up what we called mountains! They definitely would have had a totally different viewpoint on what is heavy or a load as well.
I love the ranger grip 57 or 58,I can't remember which,locking blades,plus a nice long knife blade for cutting.
Sounds like a great option!
Two words: Bowie knife
Classic + Cold steel bushman + knipex cobra + chisquero lighter
I only took my LMs 4 some nice n cozy photo scenes 😁😎
Sounds good, LoL!
@@hvacbudget8600 hahahha! Dude, those r fancy tools in where i live 😅😁
@@justyou9314 Leatherman's prices keep going up soon you'll need a loan to buy them!
@@hvacbudget8600 hahahhaa! When its come,mean its my time 2 stop collecting LM, starts collecting Daicamping or i move 2 another multiverse which provide LM for its citizen. When i do that, im sure u gonna miss me though 🤣😁
Well I don’t think the Victorinox would be a very good long term, outdoors carrier. Why, well because the steel used is very soft and not very durable. And after using it a few times it would be dull.
On nice well cleared trails (with EMS and S&R available) maybe the classic SD is enough, the secondary forests I bushcraft, hike, camp in...no definitely not, I need a long fixed blade and also prefer a secondary small Mora fixed blade, and the Vic Forester. But then again I don't care for the ultralight aspect overall and prefer to go tool heavy.
Ultralight hiking..formerly know as... walking through the woods 😂
LoL!
That's a fun topic. What a bayonet! And maybe you've felt this--as a collector I can't just bring the boring same-ol' every time! Though there are two that tend to stay in my light hiking bag: 111mm Forester and a Classic SD. During storm season I might ditch the Forester for a 7" folding saw (impassable trails, ugh) and a multi-tool like the Calypso, Schrade Tough Tool, or SOG PowerAssist for things like fallen wire fences. I also like hunting lockbacks for these trips. The lightweight Marbles hunting lockback in Desert Tan for example is a fantastic budget knife for these settings. If in the mood for fun or science, the Vic Explorer or SwissChamp. Feeling patriotic and nostalgic, the Marbles GI Utility, RR G10 Scout, or Imperial BSA Scout. Haha. In fixed, I tend to take a Nisaku-steel Hori Hori if it'll work, because it's somewhat less threatening as open carry. Thanks for the fun video & take care.
Wow! Sounds like some great tool sets! Exactly I do find the same tool gets a bit tedious. Fun to mix it up sometimes!
Wow you basically hit the nail at the end by making this a video about size and weight I’m surprised you didn’t pull out a scale but go ahead and discredit the signal since it weighs 1000lbs
instead of using bayonet i personally rather use my kabar knife
These are far too heavy. I really didn't like using it while on my mountain hunting trip.
Bringing m7 bayonet to hiking?welp that’s a kind of interesting one cuz if I recall correctly it supposed to be dull,I wonder what you gonna do with it.
and btw Vic classic for hiking is pretty impractical,my bottom line of ultralight hiking is Vic camper,at least this size of knives can handle that kind of task
With all respect my friend always is better Carry a serious tool like the Ozark trail multiforce. Not to expensive not too heavy but you can solve many problems with that. If you are hiking or in a bike you can count with something strong not a toy like a the Victorinox. Remember you are miles and miles away from anything.
Saludos Amigo
That is always my first instinct as well. Maybe these long distance thru hikers might need a bit more gear.
I have Victorinox knives that are a decade old, no issues. Was thrilled to get the Multiforce, but the pliers collapsed while loosening a radiator valve. Buyer beware.
Deluxe tinker would be my choice. Need some form of pliers. Or the discontinued ps4
Mr. Kincaid, can we cut the difference here and pack a Leatherman Wave?😁
LoL! I don't care what people carry but it's interesting to think what is the best tool for unique situations.😂
All the hiking stuff aside, did I catch that right… Leatherman discontinued the Squirt series?
I only have two… shoulda bought more. 🤷🏻♂️
Several people warranting their Squirt have mentioned they have been told it is discontinued. We'll see.
Everyone just ignore the bit driver slot in the hammer.
If i wanted a lightweight victoronox id go with the farmer with aluminum handles or a s.o.g powerpint even one of toollogics cc knives would be better than that tiny s.a.k
I love Swiss Army knives but if there is any possibility of needing anything more than the lightest duty, lightest use, I just don't see them being worth very much. If you have to worry so much about weight that you have to carry a multi-tool that light, you really shouldn't be anywhere off a well-established trail because I don't know how much "survival" you could really do with something that light-use. For cost, I am with you, but the weight, if you have to worry THAT much about weight, just don't stray far from civilization.
Ultralight backpackers are fools. Going into the wilderness without a mid-sized fixed blade, a folding saw, a large multitool (Victorinox Swiss Tool is the best), a SAK, a solid folder, and a multiblade knife like a Case Trapper is pure madness
There is one reason, and one reason alone that I will not take a Swiss army knife into the woods. The fact of the matter is they do not have locking blades. If that thing happened to come down and collapse over your finger, I hope to hell you have a suture kit! A locking blade or a fixed blade is a must in my opinion
Don’t believe the videos-go on an actual multi day hike, sleep outside (or in a tent/shelter etc you packed and carried in), a day’s walk/hike from your vehicle. when you get back home, reassess the gear you actually used, and skill sets you used on your hike, then rebuild your hiking load out 🎒 based on the experience of actually surviving on the gear and skills. Lots of variables and each load out will be different depending on each person’s needs and skillsets. Real life is the hardest but best teacher and education!
Is this vid a joke? 😂 a purse knife vs the Signal? 😂 Yes, lighter is better but c'mon?😂 is this vid meant for girl scouts? The Signal is elite compared to the others! If you can't handle the weight of it you are just WEAK!!😂😂😂
You have got to be kidding...you're recommending that people should walk miles in the woods but have tools with vastly inferior capability. This was a bait and switch teaser topic. I hope no one else falls for this crap.
Why the hell would i need a screwdriver ?
I have hiked all over even deeep in the woods and never carried any tools
Yeah you don't need tools for hiking except a pair of good shoes.
@@VitalyMack Depends on where you hike. Your bare hands against a bear, cougar, feral pig or a pack of coyotes/wolves is not going to end well for you.
@@johnshepherd9676 lol, for sure, weapons are a different subject.
@@VitalyMack Weapons are tools.
About a decade ago I had conversation with a young lady who was going to hike the Appalachian Trail and was going the ultralite way which was trend back then. I tried to convince her that even if you are three days between supply stops a lot can happen and the tools you don't have with could cost you big time. I was not telling her that she needed full infantry pack and equipment just and extra 5lbs or so. Ultralight camping in the British Isles is probably ok, but not in North America or even in Western or Northern Europe.
@johnshepherd9676 man...5 pounds is a lot of extra weight! Sometimes I'll bring my 357 5 in revolver. But most of the time I just take my light pps Walther 9mm and some bear spray.
I love my Leatherman REBAR and hate my Leatherman signal over priced for the tools you get and is a piece of sh##
Dopeyest review ever. What a joke recommending a tiny pocket knife over a highly functional multi-tool. 🤣🤣🤣
Click bait video
Nope...
So many lame TH-cam channels. Your premise is weak and faulty. I guess its content, content content.