Yes. I think the Tivo's are quality products. They have common ownership with ChannelMaster. My old no frills Channelmaster DVR still works after 12 years. When the two companies merged they discontinued the CM dvrs and I no longer have the 2 week free guide. I know you can still manually record, but I'm too lazy, so I upgraded to the Edge.
To overcome the 2 tuner problem, just buy a 2nd TiVo for Antenna for another room. You can connect to the other TiVo and stream the recorded programs. Some of my series record on one, some on the other. Another point, you must buy the all in service for TiVo for Antenna up front.
I've got that same TV you have behind you in my Kitchen,it's a Vizio M220VA The Tivo Edge now comes with a lifetime subscription to the guide service and the DVR is less than the price of the lifetime guide service.
Trying to remember, but I believe the dvr was $250.00 with the life time subscription, but it may have been more. Do you have problems with your Visio TV. I have trouble with mine not recognizing some of my equipment and will not allow me to use the inputs they are on. I switched over to all 4K cables which helped. I finally went into my settings and disabled the CEC setting. It's not smart anymore, but everything works.
Thank you for this detailed review. I have three TiVo boxes in the house and overall work great, but I'm sad Hulu and HBO/Max are not supported on the boxes, 😞. I wish they'd get on-board: they know streaming is beating out cable, why not cater and market to the masses??
It probably has to do with money and they use it as a sales draw. If a little Roku or Firestick can offer a hundred apps or so, you know they could easily add more to the Tivo. They do the same thing with 4k blu ray players. My Sony has some of the major apps on it, but not enough to compete with the Firestick.
I have a Samsung Smart TV, think I bought it 2018? Had DirecTV since 2006 cuz I'm in an underdeveloped zone and even with the old bubble back TV I got 0 picture this January after DirecTV is no longer ATT they went way up in price and customer loyalty didn't matter anymore+ all the prime viewing including the history network were just showing reruns and they now expected you to buy the streaming service! Nope I had had it with Law & Order SVU reruns on every network I cancelled service unfortunately they didn't read the memo 😅 and I unscrewed the feed to the satellite and screwed it into the antenna that I put up a couple of years earlier and everything has been working great until yesterday so I assume they have changed the signal? I have a Roku stick but it won't allow me to use antenna TV? Wonder if I can eventually buy a TiVo will I still run into the same issue? Broadcast is in grey so you can't scan unless you remove the Roku device, anyone else familiar with this issue? Yes I also have a new antenna 3.0 but the apartment is replacing balconies so I have to wait for mine to be replaced and hopefully I can unscrew the setup that the DirecTV installer drilled into the railing! Does everything have to cost us Seniors an arm and a leg 😂
So, two years ago you were using the antenna and receiving over the air broadcast tv, but now you have reconnected it and you can't get programming, is that right? If so, that has nothing to do with the satellite service you canceled. The signals come from radically different sources. I suspect that you have a connection problem or you antenna needs to be re-aimed. Before you purchase a Tivo, you need to make sure that you are able to get the over the air programming. Check you tv menu. After being on cable, your tv may have to do a channel scan to acquire those channels. You've got me intrested now, so let me know how this turns out.@@me4654
@@deerparkhomeshop2471 thanks for responding no I bought the antennae maybe 4 years before I actually put it on the balcony & then it sat for another couple of years, DirecTV was still a part of att and would bring my bill to an acceptable amount, January 15th to be exact it said no satellite connection plus the program (the bridge) was on Ovation (free) and AMC+ which I didn't have so it would cancel the DVR free viewing and say no subscription recording cancelled plus the fact that they wanted to jack up the price another 79$ so with all those issues and the fact when I called about the no satellite they'd be happy to send a tech out for 99$ but if I get the insurance they will wave the fee🤣 there's no way I'm paying for insurance for something I don't own and a old Satellite that they leave on the balcony when people move! I've repositioned it and scanned the channel's & finally got the one channel I wanted, you miss understood me when I called to disconnect I unscrewed the dtv feed to the satellite and rerouted the coax cable to the antenna and it worked fine since January but my guess is the antenna is old & I bought a next gen one and as soon as they remove my balcony & put up the new one I'll screw it too the new railing and I should be good to go! Thanks again
what the difference between the tivo edge and the bolt? we have a house with no roof antenna anymore. we have to keep cable, for a landline phone, and we have wifi. great video, thanks.
The Tivo bolt, if I have this right, is a step up from the edge and can be purchased in either 4 or 6 channel versions. The advertising says it can be used with cable and antenna. However, they may be phasing out this model. It's available on Amazon, but not at Tivo or Channelmaster. Thanks for watching.
If you already have coaxial cable throughout your house I suggest you connect your MoCA-ready Tivo edge via coaxial and get ethernet speeds without WiFi or an ethernet cable. it will increases speeds anywhere from 3x-10x over WiFi
@@deerparkhomeshop2471 Ah okay. Most homes have come pre-wired for cable, but not sure about brand new ones necessarily. I know the old ones (before the 1990's) used the lower 20-gauge RG59 cable vs the 18-gauge RG6.
@@SWLinPHX Good information. I believe you are right. In the old days they used a lighter gauge cable and then they upgraded the spec to the 18 gauge which is what we have in my house.
My Xfinity guy put a splitter and an extra wire in case I wanted to move TV to the bedroom and the wire is in the wall by the hot water heater but I can't remember the way he told me to connect it?
It gets a 3.3/5.0 rating on Amazon. Not much of an endorsement. I don't want any device that requires a subscription. I tried the new Tablo Gen 4 that doesn't require a subscription but it's buggy as heck. I see others on their forums have similar issues. So I bought a HomeWorx hw-150pvr and it does the job for me. Cost $32. Obviously it doesn't have all the bells and whistles as the Tivo or Tablo but it is reliable and no subscriptions. It's closer to the old vcr's back in the day only you record to a thumb drive or external hard drive.
The antenna version is not available on Tivo any longer. They sell the Edge for cable only now. That's worthless to pay for 2 subscriptions. Tivo redirects to Channel Master for the antenna's 2-channel version, meaning Tivo discontinued the antenna version and eventually the subscription.
This happened to me with my old channel master dvr. They were bought out by Tivo, the CM dvr's were discontinued, as well as the subscription service. So far, my Tivo subscription is still actiove.
No I on't. I haven't had cable for years. My understanding is that the TIVO cable version is strictly for cable and will not record OTA antenna broadcasts. You have to buy the Tivo Edge for Antenna.
My cable company runs their cable in clear QAM (no digital converter box is needed, just plug cable into the tv, scan for channels and they are there). Will this unit work as DVR with my cable company?
I'm not an expert here because I haven't had cable for over 10 years. It is my understanding that the Tivo Edge for Cable model will display unencrypted or clear Qam programing. Here is a quote from their website:: "Some cable providers include unencrypted channels in their cable lineups. These channels usually are rebroadcasts of ATSC (antenna) channels. If you perform a channel scan, these unencrypted channels (which are also known as "clear QAM channels") appear in your channel list, and your TiVo device can tune to them, but you will not receive program guide data for them unless you obtain a CableCARD from your cable provider. Here is why CableCARDs are necessary for clear QAM channels " And here is the link: tivoidp.tivo.com/tivoCommunitySupport/s/article/CableCARD-FAQ?language=en_US I would check with my cable company and see if they have a cable card available for the DVR and ask them to confirm that this device will be compatible. You can also chat with Tivo.com for answers. Also make sure that you can return the DVR to the seller if you have problems. Sorry I can't give you a simple yes or no answer to your question, but I just don't have the experience.
The Tivo Edge tuner is not as good as the built in tuner in my Samsung TV. I have a few channels that will glitch like crazy when using the Tivo tuner during bad weather. But if I switch over to Samsung built in tuner, the same channels don't have a problem. Also the guide updates are slow to include new channels. I have a few channels that were remapped a couple months ago, guide still shows 'Title not available'.
I have a Vizio TV and I really haven't noticed much difference. I'll have wait until I get bad weather and compare them. I seldom watch live TV, preferring recorded programs. I'll also have to watch for the new channel issue. I've hid all but about 20 channels, so I seldom see a new channel pop up. Thanks for your comment, good information.
According to the Tivo website the Edge series does allow this, although I have never actually done it. If you plan on doing this you may want to go to Tivo.com and chat with them to get a confirmation and detailed instructions.
We're a TiVo family (2-Roamio's, 1-Edge dvr's all are OTA w/Lifetime, and 4 Tivo Mini's) but LOVE streaming on the Roku Ultra 2022. Don't even think about streaming on your Tivo dvr. We love our Tivo's but not the streaming.
I agree. It seems to me that when dvr's and 4k/blu ray players add apps it's more of a sales tool than anything. I mentioned Firestick's in the video, but I still prefer the Roku interface. Thanks for watching.
@@deerparkhomeshop2471 Well most smart TV's come with all the streaming apps too but Roku's are cheap enough and I have them in my rental properties. Some cable company set-top boxes also include streaming apps, so in some of my rentals there are three different devices that included them -- take your pick.
Yes, unfortunately there is a subscription fee. When I grew up they had TV listings in the daily newspaper. Of course, then you had to subscribe to a paper.
My old Tivo Bolt 1Tb records 4 channels at the same time. It still works just fine. I got the Mini at the same time.
Yes. I think the Tivo's are quality products. They have common ownership with ChannelMaster. My old no frills Channelmaster DVR still works after 12 years. When the two companies merged they discontinued the CM dvrs and I no longer have the 2 week free guide. I know you can still manually record, but I'm too lazy, so I upgraded to the Edge.
To overcome the 2 tuner problem, just buy a 2nd TiVo for Antenna for another room. You can connect to the other TiVo and stream the recorded programs. Some of my series record on one, some on the other. Another point, you must buy the all in service for TiVo for Antenna up front.
The two tuners are more than enough for us We mostly watch streaming shows. If you buy two different dvr's, would you have to buy two subscriptions?
@@deerparkhomeshop2471 Yes. that or the lifetime.
I've got that same TV you have behind you in my Kitchen,it's a Vizio M220VA
The Tivo Edge now comes with a lifetime subscription to the guide service and the DVR is less than the price of the lifetime guide service.
Trying to remember, but I believe the dvr was $250.00 with the life time subscription, but it may have been more. Do you have problems with your Visio TV. I have trouble with mine not recognizing some of my equipment and will not allow me to use the inputs they are on. I switched over to all 4K cables which helped. I finally went into my settings and disabled the CEC setting. It's not smart anymore, but everything works.
Thank you for this detailed review. I have three TiVo boxes in the house and overall work great, but I'm sad Hulu and HBO/Max are not supported on the boxes, 😞. I wish they'd get on-board: they know streaming is beating out cable, why not cater and market to the masses??
It probably has to do with money and they use it as a sales draw. If a little Roku or Firestick can offer a hundred apps or so, you know they could easily add more to the Tivo. They do the same thing with 4k blu ray players. My Sony has some of the major apps on it, but not enough to compete with the Firestick.
I have a Samsung Smart TV, think I bought it 2018? Had DirecTV since 2006 cuz I'm in an underdeveloped zone and even with the old bubble back TV I got 0 picture this January after DirecTV is no longer ATT they went way up in price and customer loyalty didn't matter anymore+ all the prime viewing including the history network were just showing reruns and they now expected you to buy the streaming service! Nope I had had it with Law & Order SVU reruns on every network I cancelled service unfortunately they didn't read the memo 😅 and I unscrewed the feed to the satellite and screwed it into the antenna that I put up a couple of years earlier and everything has been working great until yesterday so I assume they have changed the signal? I have a Roku stick but it won't allow me to use antenna TV? Wonder if I can eventually buy a TiVo will I still run into the same issue? Broadcast is in grey so you can't scan unless you remove the Roku device, anyone else familiar with this issue? Yes I also have a new antenna 3.0 but the apartment is replacing balconies so I have to wait for mine to be replaced and hopefully I can unscrew the setup that the DirecTV installer drilled into the railing! Does everything have to cost us Seniors an arm and a leg 😂
So, two years ago you were using the antenna and receiving over the air broadcast tv, but now you have reconnected it and you can't get programming, is that right? If so, that has nothing to do with the satellite service you canceled. The signals come from radically different sources. I suspect that you have a connection problem or you antenna needs to be re-aimed. Before you purchase a Tivo, you need to make sure that you are able to get the over the air programming. Check you tv menu. After being on cable, your tv may have to do a channel scan to acquire those channels. You've got me intrested now, so let me know how this turns out.@@me4654
@@deerparkhomeshop2471 thanks for responding no I bought the antennae maybe 4 years before I actually put it on the balcony & then it sat for another couple of years, DirecTV was still a part of att and would bring my bill to an acceptable amount, January 15th to be exact it said no satellite connection plus the program (the bridge) was on Ovation (free) and AMC+ which I didn't have so it would cancel the DVR free viewing and say no subscription recording cancelled plus the fact that they wanted to jack up the price another 79$ so with all those issues and the fact when I called about the no satellite they'd be happy to send a tech out for 99$ but if I get the insurance they will wave the fee🤣 there's no way I'm paying for insurance for something I don't own and a old Satellite that they leave on the balcony when people move! I've repositioned it and scanned the channel's & finally got the one channel I wanted, you miss understood me when I called to disconnect I unscrewed the dtv feed to the satellite and rerouted the coax cable to the antenna and it worked fine since January but my guess is the antenna is old & I bought a next gen one and as soon as they remove my balcony & put up the new one I'll screw it too the new railing and I should be good to go! Thanks again
what the difference between the tivo edge and the bolt? we have a house with no roof antenna anymore. we have to keep cable, for a landline phone, and we have wifi. great video, thanks.
The Tivo bolt, if I have this right, is a step up from the edge and can be purchased in either 4 or 6 channel versions. The advertising says it can be used with cable and antenna. However, they may be phasing out this model. It's available on Amazon, but not at Tivo or Channelmaster. Thanks for watching.
@@deerparkhomeshop2471 No, the Edge is a newer model from late 2019, a "step-up" from the Bolt.
Does the box run quiet or can you hear cooling fan or anything else when the room is silent?
Mine doesn't make noise of any kind.
If you already have coaxial cable throughout your house I suggest you connect your MoCA-ready Tivo edge via coaxial and get ethernet speeds without WiFi or an ethernet cable. it will increases speeds anywhere from 3x-10x over WiFi
Thank you. That's a good idea but we don't have the coax in several rooms. Cable installation might be a good idea for a future video though.
@@deerparkhomeshop2471 Ah okay. Most homes have come pre-wired for cable, but not sure about brand new ones necessarily. I know the old ones (before the 1990's) used the lower 20-gauge RG59 cable vs the 18-gauge RG6.
@@SWLinPHX Good information. I believe you are right. In the old days they used a lighter gauge cable and then they upgraded the spec to the 18 gauge which is what we have in my house.
My Xfinity guy put a splitter and an extra wire in case I wanted to move TV to the bedroom and the wire is in the wall by the hot water heater but I can't remember the way he told me to connect it?
@@me4654 What are you trying to do exactly?
It gets a 3.3/5.0 rating on Amazon. Not much of an endorsement. I don't want any device that requires a subscription. I tried the new Tablo Gen 4 that doesn't require a subscription but it's buggy as heck. I see others on their forums have similar issues. So I bought a HomeWorx hw-150pvr and it does the job for me. Cost $32. Obviously it doesn't have all the bells and whistles as the Tivo or Tablo but it is reliable and no subscriptions. It's closer to the old vcr's back in the day only you record to a thumb drive or external hard drive.
Well you know, if you're happy with it and it meets your expectations, then that's what matters.
The antenna version is not available on Tivo any longer. They sell the Edge for cable only now. That's worthless to pay for 2 subscriptions. Tivo redirects to Channel Master for the antenna's 2-channel version, meaning Tivo discontinued the antenna version and eventually the subscription.
This happened to me with my old channel master dvr. They were bought out by Tivo, the CM dvr's were discontinued, as well as the subscription service. So far, my Tivo subscription is still actiove.
Do you have a review on the Edge Cable? Will it record OTA
No I on't. I haven't had cable for years. My understanding is that the TIVO cable version is strictly for cable and will not record OTA antenna broadcasts. You have to buy the Tivo Edge for Antenna.
My cable company runs their cable in clear QAM (no digital converter box is needed, just plug cable into the tv, scan for channels and they are there). Will this unit work as DVR with my cable company?
I'm not an expert here because I haven't had cable for over 10 years. It is my understanding that the Tivo Edge for Cable model will display unencrypted or clear Qam programing. Here is a quote from their website::
"Some cable providers include unencrypted channels in their cable lineups. These channels usually are rebroadcasts of ATSC (antenna) channels. If you perform a channel scan, these unencrypted channels (which are also known as "clear QAM channels") appear in your channel list, and your TiVo device can tune to them, but you will not receive program guide data for them unless you obtain a CableCARD from your cable provider. Here is why CableCARDs are necessary for clear QAM channels "
And here is the link:
tivoidp.tivo.com/tivoCommunitySupport/s/article/CableCARD-FAQ?language=en_US
I would check with my cable company and see if they have a cable card available for the DVR and ask them to confirm that this device will be compatible. You can also chat with Tivo.com for answers. Also make sure that you can return the DVR to the seller if you have problems.
Sorry I can't give you a simple yes or no answer to your question, but I just don't have the experience.
The Tivo Edge tuner is not as good as the built in tuner in my Samsung TV. I have a few channels that will glitch like crazy when using the Tivo tuner during bad weather. But if I switch over to Samsung built in tuner, the same channels don't have a problem. Also the guide updates are slow to include new channels. I have a few channels that were remapped a couple months ago, guide still shows 'Title not available'.
I have a Vizio TV and I really haven't noticed much difference. I'll have wait until I get bad weather and compare them. I seldom watch live TV, preferring recorded programs. I'll also have to watch for the new channel issue. I've hid all but about 20 channels, so I seldom see a new channel pop up. Thanks for your comment, good information.
Can you stream outside of home network?
According to the Tivo website the Edge series does allow this, although I have never actually done it. If you plan on doing this you may want to go to Tivo.com and chat with them to get a confirmation and detailed instructions.
That is why I chose to buy the 4 tuner 2TB Edge for antenna.....
Good choice. If you record lots of shows and sporting events, two turners is the way to go.
Do you know if you can use an external USB drive for more storage? I cannot find much information
I've had the same problem. Tivo seams quiet on this, and Ive seen mixed comments on Amazon, Walmart, and other sites.
@@deerparkhomeshop2471 As I understand, you can replace the hard drive with a larger one. Google Tivo Edge, larger hard drive.
You can use an external drive or replace the drive
Thanks, great information.
Thank you! Appreciate you watching.
We're a TiVo family (2-Roamio's, 1-Edge dvr's all are OTA w/Lifetime, and 4 Tivo Mini's) but LOVE streaming on the Roku Ultra 2022. Don't even think about streaming on your Tivo dvr. We love our Tivo's but not the streaming.
I agree. It seems to me that when dvr's and 4k/blu ray players add apps it's more of a sales tool than anything. I mentioned Firestick's in the video, but I still prefer the Roku interface. Thanks for watching.
@@deerparkhomeshop2471 Well most smart TV's come with all the streaming apps too but Roku's are cheap enough and I have them in my rental properties. Some cable company set-top boxes also include streaming apps, so in some of my rentals there are three different devices that included them -- take your pick.
@@SWLinPHXthat's very sweet of you ❤️ wish I could find a landlord like that in my area! After 18 years I'm thinking about finding a different place!
Oh there's a subscription fee? That takes care of that idea I have to put my foot down on how much it costs for something that I grew up with free!
Yes, unfortunately there is a subscription fee. When I grew up they had TV listings in the daily newspaper. Of course, then you had to subscribe to a paper.
@@deerparkhomeshop2471 absolutely 🤣
TV Guide.
Of course, you also have to pay for a subscription to TV Guide. Nothing's free anymore. @@johnbob4545
You have the option of paying a one-time fee instead of having to pay for a subscription.