I hope you guys like this video, just wanted to add: while type development is typically focused on the most conscious functions, shadow work is the practice of creating a line of communication between the conscious & unconscious, in order to integrate these unconscious contents into your personality. And the inferior function (the least conscious part of your personality) acts as a backdoor to your shadow through which you can access these contents and bring them into light✨ This is why I suggest engaging with your inferior function as a part of shadow work, but not to go about it carelessly as it can be quite triggering (especially if you haven’t developed your other conscious functions) so take care! If you have any questions, or thoughts on this, I’d love to hear them😊
Personality tests are judgmental by nature (labeling) and do nothing but add another false layer to the ego. I.e. people now identify themselves as INTP, INFJ, etc., and something you did touch on, that I agree with, is that the person taking the test is taking it based on the personality they would like to see themselves as having, rather than what personality traits they actually display. That test is about as useful as the fortune tellers kids made in elementary school. Also, anecdotes come from experience and have more value than clinical jargon of blah blah blah. The downside to realizing this is that it's very humbling, as one realizes that one only knows ones own experience, and that experience is quite miniscule. 7:44 ~ ( -ish) *determining predictive behaviors based on isolated examples * Not a thing. I've jumped out of airplanes, played around walking ledges on 13 story buildings and jumping from one to another, broken 16 bones including my face in 3 places. I've had a loaded gun held to my head on 6 different occasions. Fought dogs. High pain tolerance. Not fazed at all. On the contrary, it's fun and actually relaxing, some of it in a cathartic sense but none the less. I'm terrified of social interactions. And social interactions with women I'm attracted to can and have at times been so overwhelming that my ears ring until I can't hear anything going on around me and I get tunnel vision to white out. Actually lost consciousness on one occasion. So this whole " boldness in one thing equals boldness in all things" crap is not accurate; however, I have used this approach before and it does work in many applications where the acts have some kind of emotional correlation that can be transduced from one act to another. I'm not saying it's never applicable, but it isn't a catch all either.
Often times the shadow is taught and understood as something that is deeply colored by morality; that our shadow is that which we deem abhorrent and unacceptable, hence leading to its suppression and then later projection onto others. Though you’re introducing an under-discussed aspect to it that involves the way we absorb the world through our cognitive functions, which invites us to look to our underdeveloped or inferior functions to investigate our “shadow”. Seeing our inferior function manifest as an admiration for others who possess it as their dominant function is deeply informative (this is also projection). For example, for myself who’s dominant function is Introverted Intuition, Miyato Musashi’s advice has helped me shed light on how to develop Extraverted Sensing. As a swordsman, he advocated against pre-planned or scripted moves in a fight, but rather, staying so physically present in a fight so that you can adapt and react to anything that presents itself (like water takes any shape to fit the situation). How do you attain this level of focus and concentration? By practicing it in every moment of your day, even in the mundane, that way it generalizes to other more important situations; for Musashi it was combat. “You can do it the way you used to clear the dinner dishes when you were thirteen, or you can do it as a Japanese person would perform a tea ceremony ,with a level of concentration and care in which you can lose yourself, and so in which you can find yourself.” (Anne Lamot) Also, if I'm not mistaken Jung believed that we use all eight cognitive functions, so we don't have to limit ourselves to developing only what we understand as our "inferior function" among the four we might assign to our personality; however this can be a great starting point because it seems like the inferior function can serve as a bridge between the conscious and unconscious, surely a place that warrants attention. Also a great exercise for anyone who wants to further develop Extraverted Sensing and Introverted Intuition: ask yourself; what does my external environment at this present moment convey in regards to who I am? What are three objects around me that indicate something about who I am?
This just showed up on my algorithm 🙂 I checked out the videos and I am so happy to see young people like yourself put in the time and the work to help other people ! Respect and gratitude to you . Very helpful❤
I had a kitten walk out of the weeds and start following me around as I was moving out of my apartment. That was 12 years ago. 😂 He still follows me around. Cats are pretty awesome. They'll teach you to understand communication on entirely different levels
Aww chosen by the cat distribution system! I'm looking forward to getting to know mine, I think I'm slowly picking up on her little expressions.. before this I always wondered how people actually know what their cats like and dislike, but it's really like learning a new language😄
@@itszoewinter you'll learn the most through engaging in play with them. Kittens like a ton of play time including play fighting. Yelp like a hurt animal when it bites too hard. It will apologize through head butts or licking. And do the same if the situation is reversed. Just copy their communication styles. And get some nail clippers to keep those claws slightly dulled, otherwise you'll be waking up every morning to the rough equivalent of a dozen hypodermic needles kneading your trachea. I've always tried to regard my cat as I would a friend rather than a pet. I think that makes a huge difference in the way you relate to each other . Granted when it's a kitten, you're more in the role of a parent.
Thank you for referencing "Modern Man", a really important work by Jung. Your speaking style and cadence is so good for comprehending chunky concepts. Bravo. Skies the limit for your channel.
I found your videos today, and I was kind of expecting to click back off like I do most similarly themed videos, but your presentation is very logical and practical. I ended up listening to several, and re listening to this one. You apply these things in a very down to earth way, and that is really hard to find on TH-cam! You're awesome, thank you, and best of luck on your own journey 🌄
Thank you so much! I find Jung fascinating and a lot of the fun is figuring out how to apply these ideas to real life. Wishing you all the best on your journey too! 🌟
Thank you, I'm happy to hear this! I do feel I'm slowly becoming more comfortable in front of the camera, but still have a very long way to go... In my first few videos, I would get so nervous I would lose my voice constantly while filming haha😄 I appreciate your support and kind words!
I've watched all of your Jung related videos and taking your advice I got a couple of Jung's books and I've been spending a couple hours each day trying to apply this stuff to myself. I feel like I'm understanding myself better than I ever have, so thanks! When I was kid I was always getting screamed at and disciplined by my teachers because I was uncommonly rambunctious. I had no ill will toward anyone, quite the contrary, I enjoyed social interactions so much I couldn't contain myself BUT I also got a big kick out of pushing the boundaries of normalcy, and this tended to piss everyone off. The teachers would scream in my face with spittle flying onto my skin as they belittled me.. fuckers. It's a core aspect of my personality that learned to associate with punishment and disapproval. It was suggested that I embrace and develop the Rebel architype. I haven't gotten through all of the books I have, so I was wondering if this is legit, and what else there is to know about architypes as tools for shadow work.. if that's a thing. Thanks so much for doing these videos!
Thank you, this means a lot😊 I'm glad you've found the Jung content interesting and it's led you down your own rabbit hole! About working with archetypes as part of shadow work, I think it's a great idea and something I use a lot myself as it can help focus on these specific "clusters" of your shadow... Each archetype is a journey, it has its strengths, weaknesses, and lessons, and the more you work with them, it can help you integrate these different parts of yourself! I find it's often easier to spot an archetype of the shadow through its negative manifestations (eg, the trickster may react defiantly and bring about a lot of self-sabotage in this way) and then recognize this and follow its natural path of transformation. The trickster is one of the hardest archetypes to understand, but imo also one of the most fascinating as it inherently questions the separation of good & bad, which can be great for shadow work! Robert Moore has a book on this where he explains the transformation of archetypes in a pretty cool way-- the idea is that each core archetype has two opposite dysfunctional shadow archetypes, and these both must be integrated to fulfill the mature archetype, eg. the trickster (or rebel) can transform into the magician (revolutionary) by challenging the old and bringing new change if it's backed by strong values & a vision.. A rebel knows what they're fighting against, but a revolutionary knows what they're fighting for. I find this such an interesting topic and your comment has inspired me to do a more in-depth video on using archetypes in shadow work, so thank you! I'm working on it now! ☺️✨
@@itszoewinter you're very good at boiling this stuff down in a way that emphasizes the insightful aspects of it.. Another aspect of architypes which I am curious about is the idea of using historical or mythical figures to help represent the architypes in the same way that Jung uses historical ideas and figures to explain the traits in Personality Types ... I naturally thought of Dogen when reading about the Sage and saw that Promethius might represent the Rebel. Jung is difficult enough already without adding layers, but it's all so fascinating to me. Thank you for your thoughtful reply and I'm looking forward to your next video!
Exceptionally well-organized and presented. You did a fantastic job of breaking down such a complex topic, covering all the key details while keeping it clear and concise. Subscribed!
Definitely interesting. Having approached all of this through the lens of complex trauma, I'm trying to understand how it all fits together. I imagine that the complex trauma had a lot to do with the development of the shadow, what went in there and what was kept in the conscious mind. Coming at it from an angle of pure personality is kinda interesting, but also doesn't acknowledge the irrational responses such as flashbacks.
Great video! I went on this path of shadow work as an INFJ and purposely targeting Se. All the things I did were placing myself into what I felt was chaotic and high stress situations, like parties, or doing door to door sales or taking carnival jobs. I basically practiced Se with exposure therapy lol, and I think that helped my capacity for the Se chaos and my ability to direct that intensity. The other way I practice now is by studying the ways other types use their function combos effectively. How does a Se dominant capture peoples hearts while deftly diving in and out Ni intensity, how does a Te dominant direct the room while maintaining adherence to complicated Fi, etc and how can I integrate those skills into what I am? Again, great video!
The functions is definitely something I'll be looking into. Figuring out how they interplay with the MBTI will be quite the rabbit hole to go down into...Cute kitty by the way :p
I'm an ENFP and on first sight of your video I thought, ah a smart INFJ, I like her. I think your Ti is very good, because all Jung related stuff is very detail-heavy for all of us Te users, because we just can't bother with complexity of details and want a summary or a guide how to use all the information and apply them. Not necessarily true, but just my opinion that Ni+Ti suits you more than Ne+Te, although you are a feeler (NF) for sure. You are also very structured in the way you think and explain concepts, hence the quick INFJ conclusion.
Thank you, I appreciate the interesting analysis! It's really good and definitely made me go back and pick apart my function stack haha😄 I do have relatively high Ti, and am often typed as INFJ however am definitely Fi dom, but it's curious to hear these are the qualities I'm projecting in my videos! Thank you, I take your analysis as quite a compliment☺️🧚🏻♀️
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I love this topic and think about it quite often. I agree with most of what you said. It can be very beneficial to develop your tertiary and inferior functions however I tend to equate our opposing function more directly with the shadow more in line with the 8-function model which I believe was first proposed by John Beebe.
@@itszoewinter As I understand it, and I don't claim mastery of this subject, though all healthy minds employ all of the functions, the shadow functions can never be brought into the ego. Using the 8 function model helps us to define the shadow functions so we have a guide to know what to look for. Shadow work would include developing the ego functions so that they can help us observe and mediate with the shadow functions, diligent practice of introspection, dream analysis, active imagination, etc., and then some form of forgiveness and acceptance. For instance, in my own life, I am Ti dominant, when I notice my intentions change from defining to enforcing I need to recognize that my 5th function (Te) is coming to defend my ego and I need to first employ my ego functions to (metaphorically) acknowledge and thank my shadow which helps bring my actions back into conscious control and then turn my focus toward exposing that threat and again employing my ego functions to deal with it appropriately. Since I am Ti dominant its easiest for me to recognize my Te shadow function while my 8th function (Fi) is going to be much more of a struggle since my 4th function (FE) is least developed within my ego.
First time I've heard of shadow work, but it seems quite intuitive. Well done! The less you use a certain tool, the worse your skill with it will be (in comparison to tools used more frequently) Like the skill system in Skyrim: once you leveled up sneak and archery, everything else will seem ineffective and not worth using, but in order to change that you have to use those other skills. In theory this should be easier IRL, since the challenges don't scale with your overall "level", so all skills can be applied, no matter how weak they might seem...
Haha this is a great example! I use the skyrim skill tree in my own shadow work, like you said it's easy to neglect these undeveloped (inferior) parts of yourself and instead rely on the (dominant) ones you've spent years developing, but sometimes you have to go back and work on these new skills... it can be fun to branch out "quests" from there, eg as a novice in self-trust, you can only use it at that level until you get the experience to lvl it up and eventually use it as a strength!
That's a cool kitty! I been thinking of adopting too. Do you ever read or study any other psychoanalysts like lacan, guatarri, or zizek? Your vids are great, keep it up
@itszoewinter sure. So lacan is famous for l'escrites or somethin, don't bother, he's a verbose Frenchy. The work is legendary though, there's entire courses online for that book alone. Guatarri is the coauthor of capitalism and schizophrenia, a big book in philosophy. Hard read but totally will fuck your mind if you can get through it. Zizek us an active philosopher and hilarious, it's not too hard but I recommend the sublime object of ideology, but any will do and so will his online speeches
Hello Zoe Winter hello anyway this is indeed very heartwarming and very wonderful and very beautiful and very adorable and this brings back such great memories of when I use to be a 90s kid and an early 2000s kid and I am a new subscriber as well:).
Okay I followed this and understood that I’m Fi type and it makes sense because as I did a lot of shadow work over the years almost directly reading Jung, I had realized that expressing was a big problem for me. At the same time I think sometimes I can very easily express emotions that also creates a dissonance in other people’s brains because they think that I’m not being honest
Interesting! When you say you sometimes very easily express emotions, do you do so on an intellectual level? For example, do you easily feel your emotions, or do you rather recognize & understand them? There's a big misconception around feeling types-- the judging functions feeling & thinking are BOTH rational functions, and Jung categorizes the actual feeling of emotions as part of sensation, a perceiving function... I hope this makes sense, I always found Fi in particular quite a tricky function to understand!
@@itszoewinter yes I think looking at Reddit and people’s descriptions of Fi would’ve certainly confused me. I have the perhaps rare path that I did the work already and then saw your TH-cam videos. The problem with Fi is they’re inherently lot more reliant on logic and logic kind of dictates that you must take all opinions in mind and by definition Fi’s biggest problem I think is growing up catering to other people’s feelings and not their own. This is because the dominant feeling in an Fi is a sense of good value and judgement. Their perceived self belief deep rooted in their childhood is their distinction of right and wrong usually due to the emotional burden put on them through parents or other means. Also to answer your question. Yes I can very easily express emotions sometimes but that’s only because I rehearse a lot of emotions in my head and talk to myself a lot. And at other times I feel like I am being controlled by another persons need which I’ve also come to understand people can (especially narcissists) create such an atmosphere as well and make Fis really uncomfortable.
12:30 I would say Fe is more apt to lead (influence people toward a common desired outcome) while Fi befits for coaching (helping people identify and develop their capabilities). 14:05 This's so spot on, playing chess comforts me. This extends to many things, but I also enjoy physics, and even learned the language of logic😂 I'm curious if you're familiar with Dabrowski's Theory of Positive Disintegration. It would be really interesting too!
Oh I love this way of looking at Fe vs Fi, thank you (taking notes...✍🏻 ) I'm happy to hear it resonates! I've observed it in my boyfriend who has great use of Ti and really demonstrates it when explaining his thought processes in chess, it's something I really admire! I'm not familiar with Dabrowski, but will look into it, thank your for the recommendation!!😊
Friend, I’m going through a really tough time right now and it’s with a heart break. I was suggested to do shadow work/journaling and meditations. I just don’t know how to go about writing or what things I should write about dealing with this I’m still trying to understand and your video has helped me understand a bit more but idk if you’d be able to help answer this question
I'm so sorry to hear that🤍 I do think shadow work could be helpful for you, I believe dark times are the best opportunity for growth because you're confronted with much deeper parts of your shadow, even though it's incredibly painful and uncomfortable... In journaling, you can try to start by writing down all your thoughts without judging or holding any of them back, this will help you see all the fears and insecurities that are triggered by the heartbreak so you can start to unravel and work with them.. after you let it all out, look for the main themes, the recurring fears & worries you have, write them down, eg "I'm scared I will never find the love I want", and then challenge this, ask "why?" as much as you can and find the limiting beliefs and past experiences that are behind it-- this is a part of your shadow and why it feels so emotionally triggering-- this should bring up a lot of head trash you weren't aware of and now allow your conscious self to deal with it. Create new thoughts, make a plan to address these fears and replace them with new beliefs & experiences... and most importantly, show yourself all the love, compassion, and acceptance when doing so. Make sure you have ways to handle the tricky feelings that surface (a good book, a walk, a friend-- just avoid unhealthy distractions!) I hope this helps, I'm so sorry you're going through this and I wish you all the best, friend🫶🏻
It's really the worst to feel so torn within your own mind, but fortunately it's something that can be changed🤍 at least for me, it was through recognizing this "other self" and integrating it into my personality, learning about the unconscious, repressions, psych. types, etc. You say there's a war inside of you but you're the one fighting on both ends, try to start working towards a peace treaty
A man wakes in the morning. In the rush to get to work the phone rings. Sitting on the bed, He receives a message sayin his great grand mother has died. He says a few words then clicks off. Picking up his coffee he heads to the door. He sees his car and suddenly realizes he does not have his keys. Going back in the house he frantically searches for them but they are no where to be found. He searches his pockets for the third time. finally, exasperated, he asks his wife to give him her key.. The following day after an exhaustive search they find the keys on the ledge of the bureau next to the bed. He rationalizes the experience later as, 'I was in such a rush; I misplace my keys.' Modern Psychology cannot explain what happened to the man, even though it is critical to the understanding of the subconscious mind. Strangely, the guys who could explain it generally don't care to. My experience with anyway.
Yes, as long as it's something you desire/admire but feel insecure in yourself... this is often where you'll find your inferior function😊 You reach your true potential by using all 4 functions in your stack (often following the vision of your dominant function), but it's your inferior function that typically makes you self-sabotage. The idea is to face it and break through those insecurities by doing the things you fear. For example, my Fi dom tells me I want to be a writer, but my Te inferior says I can't because of all its insecurities... If my Te inferior says I can't set goals, stick to plans, be organized, etc, then by seeking out these experiences I can develop this part of my personality and integrate it (change my beliefs through positive experience) in order to pursue my goal without self-sabotaging. I hope this makes sense!
@@SSD92_x Yes. You can tell when a daughter is well lead. The father must be someone with great leadership capabilities to guide his daughter like that.
The premise makes no sense since it's an obvious thing to anyone who pays attention that the main factor driving ones life are external factors like environment, economy, technology, society, etc. Like for example to be a youtuber one needs youtube to exists and then one is dependent on ads, sposnors, supporters, etc. which are all external factors. Then there are other external factors like opportunities, competition, family/social support, violence, etc. And also stuff like health, genetics, etc. One has only minor influence on what life one lives. Even our psychological type is pre-determined by genetics. The fundamentally wrong premise makes me not want to watch the rest of the video.
I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on Adler! In one of my favorite books, The Courage to be Disliked, it explains his psychology through a conversation between a philosopher and a young man who practically argues everything you've just said.. it's quite interesting, and I don't say this to change your mind but rather it's the best example I've read that challenges these opposing views on life :)
@@itszoewinter It's a book that exists solely to manipulate people, I'm not interested in reading through it. Also, it's irrelevant to what I was talking about and also irrelevant to real life. Huh, I searched for "competition" and this book is really bizarre because the philosopher character is clearly some kind of a socialist or even a communist (claims that life isn't a competition and work is about contributing to common good, referring to others as comrades), but forgets that little detail that in actual world we're living under Social Darwinist competition for survival. Like the whole book has no words "capitalism" or "market" or "unemployment". There's a general problem of solipsism and lack of acceptance of existence of objective reality - trauma is inconvenient, therefore it doesn't exist, competition is inconvenient therefore it doesn't exist, etc. If not the chapter on trauma, I'd think that the authors deliberately wanted to instil certain ideals that are incompatible with current system but compatible with libertarian left without naming them as such. Ah okay, searched for info about that Adler dude and he was a politically active socialist and his wife was a Trotskyist. Okay, so that's the most bizarre piece of communist propaganda I have ever seen. I wonder if it was written by the Japanese authors as communist propaganda or if it was just an out of touch new age adaptation.
I hope you guys like this video, just wanted to add: while type development is typically focused on the most conscious functions, shadow work is the practice of creating a line of communication between the conscious & unconscious, in order to integrate these unconscious contents into your personality. And the inferior function (the least conscious part of your personality) acts as a backdoor to your shadow through which you can access these contents and bring them into light✨
This is why I suggest engaging with your inferior function as a part of shadow work, but not to go about it carelessly as it can be quite triggering (especially if you haven’t developed your other conscious functions) so take care! If you have any questions, or thoughts on this, I’d love to hear them😊
Personality tests are judgmental by nature (labeling) and do nothing but add another false layer to the ego. I.e. people now identify themselves as INTP, INFJ, etc., and something you did touch on, that I agree with, is that the person taking the test is taking it based on the personality they would like to see themselves as having, rather than what personality traits they actually display. That test is about as useful as the fortune tellers kids made in elementary school.
Also, anecdotes come from experience and have more value than clinical jargon of blah blah blah. The downside to realizing this is that it's very humbling, as one realizes that one only knows ones own experience, and that experience is quite miniscule.
7:44 ~ ( -ish) *determining predictive behaviors based on isolated examples *
Not a thing. I've jumped out of airplanes, played around walking ledges on 13 story buildings and jumping from one to another, broken 16 bones including my face in 3 places. I've had a loaded gun held to my head on 6 different occasions. Fought dogs. High pain tolerance. Not fazed at all. On the contrary, it's fun and actually relaxing, some of it in a cathartic sense but none the less.
I'm terrified of social interactions. And social interactions with women I'm attracted to can and have at times been so overwhelming that my ears ring until I can't hear anything going on around me and I get tunnel vision to white out. Actually lost consciousness on one occasion.
So this whole " boldness in one thing equals boldness in all things" crap is not accurate; however, I have used this approach before and it does work in many applications where the acts have some kind of emotional correlation that can be transduced from one act to another. I'm not saying it's never applicable, but it isn't a catch all either.
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Often times the shadow is taught and understood as something that is deeply colored by morality; that our shadow is that which we deem abhorrent and unacceptable, hence leading to its suppression and then later projection onto others. Though you’re introducing an under-discussed aspect to it that involves the way we absorb the world through our cognitive functions, which invites us to look to our underdeveloped or inferior functions to investigate our “shadow”. Seeing our inferior function manifest as an admiration for others who possess it as their dominant function is deeply informative (this is also projection). For example, for myself who’s dominant function is Introverted Intuition, Miyato Musashi’s advice has helped me shed light on how to develop Extraverted Sensing.
As a swordsman, he advocated against pre-planned or scripted moves in a fight, but rather, staying so physically present in a fight so that you can adapt and react to anything that presents itself (like water takes any shape to fit the situation). How do you attain this level of focus and concentration? By practicing it in every moment of your day, even in the mundane, that way it generalizes to other more important situations; for Musashi it was combat. “You can do it the way you used to clear the dinner dishes when you were thirteen, or you can do it as a Japanese person would perform a tea ceremony ,with a level of concentration and care in which you can lose yourself, and so in which you can find yourself.” (Anne Lamot)
Also, if I'm not mistaken Jung believed that we use all eight cognitive functions, so we don't have to limit ourselves to developing only what we understand as our "inferior function" among the four we might assign to our personality; however this can be a great starting point because it seems like the inferior function can serve as a bridge between the conscious and unconscious, surely a place that warrants attention.
Also a great exercise for anyone who wants to further develop Extraverted Sensing and Introverted Intuition: ask yourself; what does my external environment at this present moment convey in regards to who I am? What are three objects around me that indicate something about who I am?
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Thanks for your video and lovely kitten. I really enjoy watching your video explaining about Shadow Work.
This just showed up on my algorithm 🙂 I checked out the videos and I am so happy to see young people like yourself put in the time and the work to help other people ! Respect and gratitude to you . Very helpful❤
Thanks for the kind words, I really appreciate it☺️
I had a kitten walk out of the weeds and start following me around as I was moving out of my apartment. That was 12 years ago. 😂 He still follows me around. Cats are pretty awesome. They'll teach you to understand communication on entirely different levels
Aww chosen by the cat distribution system! I'm looking forward to getting to know mine, I think I'm slowly picking up on her little expressions.. before this I always wondered how people actually know what their cats like and dislike, but it's really like learning a new language😄
@@itszoewinter you'll learn the most through engaging in play with them. Kittens like a ton of play time including play fighting. Yelp like a hurt animal when it bites too hard. It will apologize through head butts or licking. And do the same if the situation is reversed. Just copy their communication styles. And get some nail clippers to keep those claws slightly dulled, otherwise you'll be waking up every morning to the rough equivalent of a dozen hypodermic needles kneading your trachea.
I've always tried to regard my cat as I would a friend rather than a pet. I think that makes a huge difference in the way you relate to each other . Granted when it's a kitten, you're more in the role of a parent.
Thank you for referencing "Modern Man", a really important work by Jung. Your speaking style and cadence is so good for comprehending chunky concepts. Bravo. Skies the limit for your channel.
Thank you so much! Modern Man was the first book I read from Jung so it has a special place in my heart☺️
I found your videos today, and I was kind of expecting to click back off like I do most similarly themed videos, but your presentation is very logical and practical. I ended up listening to several, and re listening to this one. You apply these things in a very down to earth way, and that is really hard to find on TH-cam! You're awesome, thank you, and best of luck on your own journey 🌄
Thank you so much! I find Jung fascinating and a lot of the fun is figuring out how to apply these ideas to real life. Wishing you all the best on your journey too! 🌟
Happy birthday Zoë!
Thank you!!☺️✨
Your voice sounds alot more coinfident in this video compared to older ones. It's nice to hear you progress and I hope you feel that way aswell 😊
Thank you, I'm happy to hear this! I do feel I'm slowly becoming more comfortable in front of the camera, but still have a very long way to go... In my first few videos, I would get so nervous I would lose my voice constantly while filming haha😄 I appreciate your support and kind words!
OH MY, these giggles 🙊
Thanks for all of your effort and clarity on such a fascinating and complex individual.
Thank you, it means a lot☺️
I've watched all of your Jung related videos and taking your advice I got a couple of Jung's books and I've been spending a couple hours each day trying to apply this stuff to myself. I feel like I'm understanding myself better than I ever have, so thanks!
When I was kid I was always getting screamed at and disciplined by my teachers because I was uncommonly rambunctious. I had no ill will toward anyone, quite the contrary, I enjoyed social interactions so much I couldn't contain myself BUT I also got a big kick out of pushing the boundaries of normalcy, and this tended to piss everyone off. The teachers would scream in my face with spittle flying onto my skin as they belittled me.. fuckers. It's a core aspect of my personality that learned to associate with punishment and disapproval. It was suggested that I embrace and develop the Rebel architype. I haven't gotten through all of the books I have, so I was wondering if this is legit, and what else there is to know about architypes as tools for shadow work.. if that's a thing. Thanks so much for doing these videos!
Thank you, this means a lot😊 I'm glad you've found the Jung content interesting and it's led you down your own rabbit hole!
About working with archetypes as part of shadow work, I think it's a great idea and something I use a lot myself as it can help focus on these specific "clusters" of your shadow... Each archetype is a journey, it has its strengths, weaknesses, and lessons, and the more you work with them, it can help you integrate these different parts of yourself! I find it's often easier to spot an archetype of the shadow through its negative manifestations (eg, the trickster may react defiantly and bring about a lot of self-sabotage in this way) and then recognize this and follow its natural path of transformation. The trickster is one of the hardest archetypes to understand, but imo also one of the most fascinating as it inherently questions the separation of good & bad, which can be great for shadow work!
Robert Moore has a book on this where he explains the transformation of archetypes in a pretty cool way-- the idea is that each core archetype has two opposite dysfunctional shadow archetypes, and these both must be integrated to fulfill the mature archetype, eg. the trickster (or rebel) can transform into the magician (revolutionary) by challenging the old and bringing new change if it's backed by strong values & a vision.. A rebel knows what they're fighting against, but a revolutionary knows what they're fighting for.
I find this such an interesting topic and your comment has inspired me to do a more in-depth video on using archetypes in shadow work, so thank you! I'm working on it now! ☺️✨
@@itszoewinter you're very good at boiling this stuff down in a way that emphasizes the insightful aspects of it.. Another aspect of architypes which I am curious about is the idea of using historical or mythical figures to help represent the architypes in the same way that Jung uses historical ideas and figures to explain the traits in Personality Types ... I naturally thought of Dogen when reading about the Sage and saw that Promethius might represent the Rebel. Jung is difficult enough already without adding layers, but it's all so fascinating to me. Thank you for your thoughtful reply and I'm looking forward to your next video!
Exceptionally well-organized and presented. You did a fantastic job of breaking down such a complex topic, covering all the key details while keeping it clear and concise. Subscribed!
Thank you, I really appreciate it😊
Definitely interesting. Having approached all of this through the lens of complex trauma, I'm trying to understand how it all fits together. I imagine that the complex trauma had a lot to do with the development of the shadow, what went in there and what was kept in the conscious mind. Coming at it from an angle of pure personality is kinda interesting, but also doesn't acknowledge the irrational responses such as flashbacks.
Great video! I went on this path of shadow work as an INFJ and purposely targeting Se. All the things I did were placing myself into what I felt was chaotic and high stress situations, like parties, or doing door to door sales or taking carnival jobs. I basically practiced Se with exposure therapy lol, and I think that helped my capacity for the Se chaos and my ability to direct that intensity.
The other way I practice now is by studying the ways other types use their function combos effectively. How does a Se dominant capture peoples hearts while deftly diving in and out Ni intensity, how does a Te dominant direct the room while maintaining adherence to complicated Fi, etc and how can I integrate those skills into what I am?
Again, great video!
The functions is definitely something I'll be looking into. Figuring out how they interplay with the MBTI will be quite the rabbit hole to go down into...Cute kitty by the way :p
Thank you! I'm glad to hear you find it interesting, good look in your journey down the rabbit hole haha☺️
Happy birthday!! Your description of the types is pretty spot on, especially Se. And milky is adorable haha
Thank you!! I'm happy to hear it, seeing your comment makes my day☺️✨
I'm an ENFP and on first sight of your video I thought, ah a smart INFJ, I like her. I think your Ti is very good, because all Jung related stuff is very detail-heavy for all of us Te users, because we just can't bother with complexity of details and want a summary or a guide how to use all the information and apply them. Not necessarily true, but just my opinion that Ni+Ti suits you more than Ne+Te, although you are a feeler (NF) for sure. You are also very structured in the way you think and explain concepts, hence the quick INFJ conclusion.
Thank you, I appreciate the interesting analysis! It's really good and definitely made me go back and pick apart my function stack haha😄 I do have relatively high Ti, and am often typed as INFJ however am definitely Fi dom, but it's curious to hear these are the qualities I'm projecting in my videos! Thank you, I take your analysis as quite a compliment☺️🧚🏻♀️
Wow!! So happy for a new video. I just came across your channel.
So happy as well for you, enjoy your kitty.
Thank you! I'm happy to hear it, thanks for all your support😊
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Heartyluvs!! I've missed you!! Tysm I'm just as surprised about it haha😆 I'm sorry about your phone but am so glad to see you're back! I appreciate all your support so much🫶🏻 It was truly your comments when I first started this channel that motivated me to keep it up, so thank you💗
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I love this topic and think about it quite often. I agree with most of what you said. It can be very beneficial to develop your tertiary and inferior functions however I tend to equate our opposing function more directly with the shadow more in line with the 8-function model which I believe was first proposed by John Beebe.
Oh interesting! How would you use or develop (?) the functions 5-8 for shadow work?
@@itszoewinter As I understand it, and I don't claim mastery of this subject, though all healthy minds employ all of the functions, the shadow functions can never be brought into the ego. Using the 8 function model helps us to define the shadow functions so we have a guide to know what to look for. Shadow work would include developing the ego functions so that they can help us observe and mediate with the shadow functions, diligent practice of introspection, dream analysis, active imagination, etc., and then some form of forgiveness and acceptance. For instance, in my own life, I am Ti dominant, when I notice my intentions change from defining to enforcing I need to recognize that my 5th function (Te) is coming to defend my ego and I need to first employ my ego functions to (metaphorically) acknowledge and thank my shadow which helps bring my actions back into conscious control and then turn my focus toward exposing that threat and again employing my ego functions to deal with it appropriately. Since I am Ti dominant its easiest for me to recognize my Te shadow function while my 8th function (Fi) is going to be much more of a struggle since my 4th function (FE) is least developed within my ego.
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First time I've heard of shadow work, but it seems quite intuitive.
Well done!
The less you use a certain tool, the worse your skill with it will be (in comparison to tools used more frequently)
Like the skill system in Skyrim: once you leveled up sneak and archery, everything else will seem ineffective and not worth using, but in order to change that you have to use those other skills.
In theory this should be easier IRL, since the challenges don't scale with your overall "level", so all skills can be applied, no matter how weak they might seem...
Haha this is a great example! I use the skyrim skill tree in my own shadow work, like you said it's easy to neglect these undeveloped (inferior) parts of yourself and instead rely on the (dominant) ones you've spent years developing, but sometimes you have to go back and work on these new skills... it can be fun to branch out "quests" from there, eg as a novice in self-trust, you can only use it at that level until you get the experience to lvl it up and eventually use it as a strength!
That's a cool kitty! I been thinking of adopting too.
Do you ever read or study any other psychoanalysts like lacan, guatarri, or zizek? Your vids are great, keep it up
Thank you, she’s a sweetheart🐱 I haven’t heard of them, do you have any specific recommendations?
@itszoewinter sure. So lacan is famous for l'escrites or somethin, don't bother, he's a verbose Frenchy. The work is legendary though, there's entire courses online for that book alone. Guatarri is the coauthor of capitalism and schizophrenia, a big book in philosophy. Hard read but totally will fuck your mind if you can get through it. Zizek us an active philosopher and hilarious, it's not too hard but I recommend the sublime object of ideology, but any will do and so will his online speeches
Holy moly I don't think I ever seen such beauty in my life... I mean, sorry, but congrats 😆 *blush
Hello Zoe Winter hello anyway this is indeed very heartwarming and very wonderful and very beautiful and very adorable and this brings back such great memories of when I use to be a 90s kid and an early 2000s kid and I am a new subscriber as well:).
Okay I followed this and understood that I’m Fi type and it makes sense because as I did a lot of shadow work over the years almost directly reading Jung, I had realized that expressing was a big problem for me. At the same time I think sometimes I can very easily express emotions that also creates a dissonance in other people’s brains because they think that I’m not being honest
Interesting! When you say you sometimes very easily express emotions, do you do so on an intellectual level? For example, do you easily feel your emotions, or do you rather recognize & understand them?
There's a big misconception around feeling types-- the judging functions feeling & thinking are BOTH rational functions, and Jung categorizes the actual feeling of emotions as part of sensation, a perceiving function... I hope this makes sense, I always found Fi in particular quite a tricky function to understand!
@@itszoewinter yes I think looking at Reddit and people’s descriptions of Fi would’ve certainly confused me. I have the perhaps rare path that I did the work already and then saw your TH-cam videos. The problem with Fi is they’re inherently lot more reliant on logic and logic kind of dictates that you must take all opinions in mind and by definition Fi’s biggest problem I think is growing up catering to other people’s feelings and not their own. This is because the dominant feeling in an Fi is a sense of good value and judgement. Their perceived self belief deep rooted in their childhood is their distinction of right and wrong usually due to the emotional burden put on them through parents or other means.
Also to answer your question. Yes I can very easily express emotions sometimes but that’s only because I rehearse a lot of emotions in my head and talk to myself a lot. And at other times I feel like I am being controlled by another persons need which I’ve also come to understand people can (especially narcissists) create such an atmosphere as well and make Fis really uncomfortable.
12:30 I would say Fe is more apt to lead (influence people toward a common desired outcome) while Fi befits for coaching (helping people identify and develop their capabilities). 14:05 This's so spot on, playing chess comforts me. This extends to many things, but I also enjoy physics, and even learned the language of logic😂
I'm curious if you're familiar with Dabrowski's Theory of Positive Disintegration. It would be really interesting too!
Oh I love this way of looking at Fe vs Fi, thank you (taking notes...✍🏻 )
I'm happy to hear it resonates! I've observed it in my boyfriend who has great use of Ti and really demonstrates it when explaining his thought processes in chess, it's something I really admire!
I'm not familiar with Dabrowski, but will look into it, thank your for the recommendation!!😊
Happy Birthday!!
Greetings from Brazil.
Thank you!☺️✨
Happy Belated Birthday. I apologize for a comment I made on a vid of yours, didn’t know you were seeing someone.
Also, I found the channel of Dr. Florian Kleinau interesting too. He covers a variety of topics regarding Jung, too.
Thank you for the recommendation! That sounds interesting, I will check it out😊
Literally clicked on this video to see if you are still holding the mic(!)
Surely there's a better way??
Solution coming soon!👀
Friend, I’m going through a really tough time right now and it’s with a heart break. I was suggested to do shadow work/journaling and meditations. I just don’t know how to go about writing or what things I should write about dealing with this I’m still trying to understand and your video has helped me understand a bit more but idk if you’d be able to help answer this question
I'm so sorry to hear that🤍 I do think shadow work could be helpful for you, I believe dark times are the best opportunity for growth because you're confronted with much deeper parts of your shadow, even though it's incredibly painful and uncomfortable...
In journaling, you can try to start by writing down all your thoughts without judging or holding any of them back, this will help you see all the fears and insecurities that are triggered by the heartbreak so you can start to unravel and work with them.. after you let it all out, look for the main themes, the recurring fears & worries you have, write them down, eg "I'm scared I will never find the love I want", and then challenge this, ask "why?" as much as you can and find the limiting beliefs and past experiences that are behind it-- this is a part of your shadow and why it feels so emotionally triggering-- this should bring up a lot of head trash you weren't aware of and now allow your conscious self to deal with it. Create new thoughts, make a plan to address these fears and replace them with new beliefs & experiences... and most importantly, show yourself all the love, compassion, and acceptance when doing so. Make sure you have ways to handle the tricky feelings that surface (a good book, a walk, a friend-- just avoid unhealthy distractions!)
I hope this helps, I'm so sorry you're going through this and I wish you all the best, friend🫶🏻
interesting and its true i was out for a pre dawn walk and i just keep seeing the war going on inside of me, its not always so much fun.
It's really the worst to feel so torn within your own mind, but fortunately it's something that can be changed🤍 at least for me, it was through recognizing this "other self" and integrating it into my personality, learning about the unconscious, repressions, psych. types, etc. You say there's a war inside of you but you're the one fighting on both ends, try to start working towards a peace treaty
@@itszoewinter its a great plan and you are right 🥰 thank you❤
A man wakes in the morning. In the rush to get to work the phone rings. Sitting on the bed, He receives a message sayin his great grand mother has died. He says a few words then clicks off. Picking up his coffee he heads to the door. He sees his car and suddenly realizes he does not have his keys. Going back in the house he frantically searches for them but they are no where to be found. He searches his pockets for the third time. finally, exasperated, he asks his wife to give him her key.. The following day after an exhaustive search they find the keys on the ledge of the bureau next to the bed. He rationalizes the experience later as, 'I was in such a rush; I misplace my keys.'
Modern Psychology cannot explain what happened to the man, even though it is critical to the understanding of the subconscious mind. Strangely, the guys who could explain it generally don't care to. My experience with anyway.
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A process of trying something I think I am not good at can help me understand what my true potential is. Is this what you mean?
Yes, as long as it's something you desire/admire but feel insecure in yourself... this is often where you'll find your inferior function😊
You reach your true potential by using all 4 functions in your stack (often following the vision of your dominant function), but it's your inferior function that typically makes you self-sabotage. The idea is to face it and break through those insecurities by doing the things you fear.
For example, my Fi dom tells me I want to be a writer, but my Te inferior says I can't because of all its insecurities... If my Te inferior says I can't set goals, stick to plans, be organized, etc, then by seeking out these experiences I can develop this part of my personality and integrate it (change my beliefs through positive experience) in order to pursue my goal without self-sabotaging. I hope this makes sense!
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They’re the best🐱✨
Your relationship with your father must be special. I can see it through your aura.
I was thinking that
If I become the very best, most competent, provider, protector and loving man. Will I be able to raise a daughter like this
@@SSD92_x Yes. You can tell when a daughter is well lead. The father must be someone with great leadership capabilities to guide his daughter like that.
Thank you, it is☺💗
@@itszoewinter I am happy for you, stranger!
Are you from Western Germany perhaps? Das hört sich ein wenig so an nämlich :)
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Correction - you are a ESFP, so your inferior is Ni not Te .
Edit - Now that I think about it I think I was wrong. You are an INFP
I'm intrigued to learn how you've typed me in this way--- why ESFP? :)
@@itszoewinter You have Se eyes. More likely ISFP, though.
The premise makes no sense since it's an obvious thing to anyone who pays attention that the main factor driving ones life are external factors like environment, economy, technology, society, etc.
Like for example to be a youtuber one needs youtube to exists and then one is dependent on ads, sposnors, supporters, etc. which are all external factors.
Then there are other external factors like opportunities, competition, family/social support, violence, etc.
And also stuff like health, genetics, etc.
One has only minor influence on what life one lives. Even our psychological type is pre-determined by genetics.
The fundamentally wrong premise makes me not want to watch the rest of the video.
I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on Adler! In one of my favorite books, The Courage to be Disliked, it explains his psychology through a conversation between a philosopher and a young man who practically argues everything you've just said.. it's quite interesting, and I don't say this to change your mind but rather it's the best example I've read that challenges these opposing views on life :)
@@itszoewinter It's a book that exists solely to manipulate people, I'm not interested in reading through it.
Also, it's irrelevant to what I was talking about and also irrelevant to real life.
Huh, I searched for "competition" and this book is really bizarre because the philosopher character is clearly some kind of a socialist or even a communist (claims that life isn't a competition and work is about contributing to common good, referring to others as comrades), but forgets that little detail that in actual world we're living under Social Darwinist competition for survival.
Like the whole book has no words "capitalism" or "market" or "unemployment".
There's a general problem of solipsism and lack of acceptance of existence of objective reality - trauma is inconvenient, therefore it doesn't exist, competition is inconvenient therefore it doesn't exist, etc.
If not the chapter on trauma, I'd think that the authors deliberately wanted to instil certain ideals that are incompatible with current system but compatible with libertarian left without naming them as such.
Ah okay, searched for info about that Adler dude and he was a politically active socialist and his wife was a Trotskyist.
Okay, so that's the most bizarre piece of communist propaganda I have ever seen. I wonder if it was written by the Japanese authors as communist propaganda or if it was just an out of touch new age adaptation.
Pseudoscience
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I dont care do asmr
Great to hear you don't care about what she want's to share. Don't tell her what to do with her channel.