Random question, but whats the best way to pain mini's with cloak, have it off and paint or have it as one piece, I ask because I struggle with painting the inside of the cloak, but I see others painting its as all one piece, any tips?
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These are actually really cool prints, thanks for the link
I'd definitely love to see a dedicated guide on wet blending, its a technique I've never really play around with myself so it would be good to see a detailed approach from you. Especially considering how well the model came out! Also, thanks for mentioning my Einhyr Champion :)
Honestly, the way you painted the face on the 2nd mini is astounding. Making the inside of that collar really dark, it straight up feels like I'm looking at a extremely high-fidelity rendered illustration. Like 16:12 , that's ridiculous how much depth it has. Excellent stuff dude, would love to see a dedicated wet-blending video, even if Ive seen dozens of them already from others.
Loving both versions - as an OG Squat fan from the 80s. The second, more 'painterly', stylised version wins hands down for me - the palette very reminscent of early Bitmap Bros games - strong Speedball II vibes (the Amiga original version). Great work.
BABY TROV! I am so happy for you! What might seem a bit odd because we don't know each other but I am a father of two and I am happy for people experiencing fathership.
Wow, that second dwarf is something else. Looks so cool. I've been watching your videos for years and you still manage to surprise me, and what I like the most is you do it not only with your talent and skills, but with your ideas about color, light and composition
Yea, there is literally only one product from AK that I dislike and it's the primer 😂Also like how you gave GW 2 choices and they were like...NOPE there is another. Loved the video!
Man you're out of your mind with that green-lit version - the way your composition comes together is an emotional experience, and that's through a phone screen 5000 miles away!
I reacted when you started applying paint in seemingly random places on the second one. I have never thought about painting a mini the way one would paint a painting. I need to try this
You can always varnish between layers. That will seal the coat, and stop reactivation. It also gives the added benefit of being able to wipe down if you make mistakes
Yes please, I would love a full video about wet blending! I looks super cool, but also difficult, so any tips are appreciatet. Oh, and congratulations :-)
Would love to see your take on wet blending. Great results. They really both looked good. I think I liked the second better, a more natural feel to it.
Excellent video as always. Crazy that it took you 56min and 2hr 25min for each of these... and as others have stated a wet-blending video would be awesome. Would love to hear your thoughts on the subject.
Ah damn, i meant to add a side by side of the final time but then forgot...it took a bit less than 3 hours for the first one and a bit more than 3 hours for the second one. 56 minutes would be insanely fast for the first one 😅
The traditional mini looks like a well-painted mini, but that non-traditional approach makes it look like a three-dimensional rendition of traditional art. Remarkable.
I have the same problem with inks and contrast paints. I have to let the ink cure for 24 hours and then be very careful about my brushwork, so it's not ideal. I don't have the same problem with non-contrast paint over ink, however.
As per the codex, you can’t actually equip the guy with a gun and concussion gauntlet. Which is a shame as this looks really cool. (basically they got the left and right arms wrong for the upgrades..)
You've got exactly the same issue with AK Interactive primer as I had. I've switched to Pro-Acryl from Monument Hobbies primer and I'll never look back. It has the finish of Stynylrez but the ease of use (and ease of cleaning the airbrush; Stynylrez almost destroyed my brand new Cult of Paint Infinity airbrush after one use, weird stuff) of AK or Vallejo primer. Give it a try, lad. Edit* the stability of your hand makes me envious, sad and angry all at the same time, I can brace really securely and still look like I've got Parkinsons disease versus your hand 😂
Great video sir. I appreciate the free lessons. You work very hard to bring us the knowledge you share so generously. Lastly congratulations for being featured on the GW community page. I believe you doing 2 identical models in two different styles was the best idea. It showed how broad and different styles can be. Plus it was just more educational and useful in my opinion. Thank you again for teaching us and God bless.
I honestly can see the second one is better but there's something classic feeling about the first one, the colors pop out more and I like it way more for actual play, I have to go with the classic style
As a guy with a blonde birthmark in his hair, the slightly lighter patch of hair on the first mini makes me happy. I was always very self consious of my birthmark as a child and even got bullied because of it, but over time I learned to love the part of me that is different to most people, it helps me to feel unique and possibly connects me to my ancestors as it's an element of my D.N.A that may have been passed on from one of them (or maybe it's just a random genetic mutation), either way it's part of who I am, and it makes me feel special, so seeing characters that share a similar aesthetic makes me feel less alone and reminds me of how I was able to find the importance of not letting insecurity prevent me from seeing the beauty of being different.
Well, I can tell you right now that it'll be the one that looked best on 'camera'.. how well the contrast & colour etc popped. Not necessarily the best painted either; By the standards they'd use for the kind of display piece they wanted.
Point 1/. Yes please to a wet blending vid. 2/. This vid is saved, and i will keep referring back to it. ( this only happens with you, 52, and Ninjon) 3/. Hair looks great. 👍
AK paints are very good, but primer has some problems. It clogs airbrush a lot, is so extremely matt that it is hard to wetblend on it, and is very fragile. I tried to varnish it, but it didn’t work very well, and I came back to GSW, Vallejo and Badger. Second one is more my kind of a thing, but both of them are awesome.
I don't particularly like the super smooth blending of the second mini. I have always thought it makes that look like a flat painting, something that looks better in a photograph as part of a diorama, not something three dimensional. The highlight and shadow on the second one only make sense if you are actively imagining the light source where the shadow/highlight is suggesting it is, rather than the actual real light source you are observing the mini under. This always makes it look unnatural to me.
We definitely need that wet blending video from you, Chris! I love that 2nd paintjob with the ambient so much, not to lessen the first one, but the 2nd feels so much more alive for me .
The black background really makes a big difference. Would've been interesting when they had shown all the other entries with a background of their choice. I like to watch the illustriational style more, as it has a longer period of "what is he doing?! that can't work" than the more methodical method. But that might just be from familiarity.
Oh no Trov being artsy and awesome at it... as usual ;) Congratulations on fatherhood! ...now we'll never get to play games again q_q Still gonna visit Australia(Or is that joke to old now) someday!
I love both styles. The wet blended one is super cinematic, though, and it ticks all the right boxes for me. I'd love to see a wet blending tutorial by you! Also... OMG A BABY!!
Nice demonstration! This actually helps me a lot, since my painting look has never fallen into any category I've seen on line, but seeing these two made me realize mine is almost smack in the middle. I've played with a couple approaches, but I generally like the smoother, more uniform lightning and color of the non-traditional approach, but with a little more contrast to specific material differences, such as hard armor plate vs leather or metal equipment. This is just based on my own experiences being out in muddy, dusty combat environments and looking around, then imagining 'Okay, what if guys weren't wearing camo, but more vibrant colors? And then had all this dirt and dust everywhere and grime in all the cracks.' So you get spots that're sorta clean and vibrant compared to the surrounding dirt and dingy parts. Anyway, great video, as always. Love seeing your more practical approach to painting and.. well, GW.
cool, thanks for sharing your story! Never worry if you "fit" into any category with painting. just always paint the way you enjoy and get the results you enjoy! It's your minis, your time spent, your hobby.
@@trovarion One thing I've found helpful about 'fit', however, is it makes it easier to narrow down my search if I want to improve something. I was never one to conform anyway, but I do like having guidelines and examples to start from. Seeing two styles tackle the same problem side by side is very helpful for those who want to tread their own ground and make their own style. They can pick a bit from each since it's easier to see what they have in common, and what they don't. Would be helpful to see more of that kind of thing. Maybe that's a recurring theme you could lean on if you need ideas at some point? Paint the same model in different styles and methods, side by side. Help people learn how to mix and match elements.
yes AK primers ARE TRASH. HOWEVER to properly use them is to airbrush them and let them sit and dry proper for 48 hrs and then you may paint over them. Thats what i realized about AK primers. Its not meant for your speed painting needs...
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Random question, but whats the best way to pain mini's with cloak, have it off and paint or have it as one piece, I ask because I struggle with painting the inside of the cloak, but I see others painting its as all one piece, any tips?
These are actually really cool prints, thanks for the link
Where did you get the stickers?
@@akumaking1 what stickers?
@@trovarion I meant the labels/logos for the Kin
I'd definitely love to see a dedicated guide on wet blending, its a technique I've never really play around with myself so it would be good to see a detailed approach from you. Especially considering how well the model came out! Also, thanks for mentioning my Einhyr Champion :)
Ahhh that was you, I was not sure! Thanks!
Cool, 2 kitbash masters
My favourite 2 Warhammer TH-camrs... I think a colab is in order!
Honestly, the way you painted the face on the 2nd mini is astounding. Making the inside of that collar really dark, it straight up feels like I'm looking at a extremely high-fidelity rendered illustration. Like 16:12 , that's ridiculous how much depth it has. Excellent stuff dude, would love to see a dedicated wet-blending video, even if Ive seen dozens of them already from others.
Loving both versions - as an OG Squat fan from the 80s. The second, more 'painterly', stylised version wins hands down for me - the palette very reminscent of early Bitmap Bros games - strong Speedball II vibes (the Amiga original version). Great work.
BABY TROV! I am so happy for you! What might seem a bit odd because we don't know each other but I am a father of two and I am happy for people experiencing fathership.
Wow, that second dwarf is something else. Looks so cool. I've been watching your videos for years and you still manage to surprise me, and what I like the most is you do it not only with your talent and skills, but with your ideas about color, light and composition
Yea, there is literally only one product from AK that I dislike and it's the primer 😂Also like how you gave GW 2 choices and they were like...NOPE there is another. Loved the video!
Man you're out of your mind with that green-lit version - the way your composition comes together is an emotional experience, and that's through a phone screen 5000 miles away!
+1 vote for the wet blending guide!
I'm astonished by the way all those painters are able to get a good orange color.
Oh yeah, it would be brilliant to get some Trov style wet blend tips!
That environmental light and the saturated blue shadows. Chef's kiss!
I reacted when you started applying paint in seemingly random places on the second one. I have never thought about painting a mini the way one would paint a painting. I need to try this
I have only watched half this video so far and I am extremely impressed. I wished I knew these techniques when I was a teenager and painted every day.
Favorite was the jumper on the little one!! Congrats!! I get so much from you!! Many thanks!! ❤
I have not seen undershading like this done with a brush very often. As a non-airbrush-haver, I appreciate it
So that was you! Amazing styles. Especially the muted version is like the style of old squats!
You can always varnish between layers. That will seal the coat, and stop reactivation. It also gives the added benefit of being able to wipe down if you make mistakes
I would really appreciate a wet blending tutorial, thank you.
The second mini was awesome, I loved the lighting and atmosphere you created, you could imagine him in a classic film poster
I can't not see Paul Teutul Sr from Orange County Choppers on these minis. Amazing work!
Cool stuff mate! Great surprise to see them pick both, and as always a pleasure to watch how you paint so smoothly.
I'm pleasantly surprised. I also expected them to pick the eavy metal style and get on with life. Showing off both is awesome!
This second mini is just what I needed to see. Thanks! Please do a dedicated wet blending vid
Your skill when it comes to brush control specifically on the hair and face…. wow mastery… holy snap… incredible talent!!!
What a badass paint. I'm excited to paint my dwarves
Yes please, I would love a full video about wet blending! I looks super cool, but also difficult, so any tips are appreciatet. Oh, and congratulations :-)
The dude face at 9:23 reminded me of Paul Sr. from American Chopper.
Good study on atmosphere and lighting.
Would love to see your take on wet blending.
Great results. They really both looked good. I think I liked the second better, a more natural feel to it.
Absolutely yes to the wet blending video! I know you usually use Raphael 8404's.What's the shorter, stiffer brush that you use for your highlighting?
Excellent and high quality content as I’ve come to expect from this channel Chris, thank you and congratulations on the little one!!
Both are precious paintings, but the wet blended one seems cooler for me, amazing.
Trovarion looks like Viggo Mortensen and I cant unsee it. Aragon is that you? great video and big congratulations on the baby!
Oh wow thank you so much for showcasing the other artists in the community! I truly appreciate it, especially from such a legendary artist 🥰.
Would be awesome to learn more about wet blending!!!
the first one imo is better if you like playing those minis and the second is better for dioramas, both in there own right are looking amazing.
Yes please to a wet blending video!
And thanks for a great new video! 👌🏻
Nice one, and thanks for show both styles
I honestly gasped when I saw the finished product for the second one, I thought it was a 2D drawing for a second, stunning work!
They look cool. I like the 1st one, it looks like paul Sr. From occ Very cool video Chris.
A wet blending video would be amazing! I’ve always struggled with it so I’d love to see one.
hey congrats on trovarion mini dude!
Excellent video as always. Crazy that it took you 56min and 2hr 25min for each of these... and as others have stated a wet-blending video would be awesome. Would love to hear your thoughts on the subject.
Ah damn, i meant to add a side by side of the final time but then forgot...it took a bit less than 3 hours for the first one and a bit more than 3 hours for the second one. 56 minutes would be insanely fast for the first one 😅
@@trovarion Okay that makes me feel a little better! Still sub 3 hours is super impressive. Thanks for the video!
Really nice video :) Do you have a list of the colors somewhere ? Would try it myself. The color scheme is beautiful
Fantastic! They put them both in. Good for them as they both good awesome. 👍👍👍
I't is really hard to pic a favorite - and they both look amazing - so well done 🙂
Very cool builds. Very different results using the different styles. Thanks for sharing. 😎🇨🇦
I like both. Excellent work!
Wet blending tutorial..... absolutely please!
I would love to see a wet blending video! It's something I've struggled with!
The traditional mini looks like a well-painted mini, but that non-traditional approach makes it look like a three-dimensional rendition of traditional art. Remarkable.
I have the same problem with inks and contrast paints. I have to let the ink cure for 24 hours and then be very careful about my brushwork, so it's not ideal. I don't have the same problem with non-contrast paint over ink, however.
As per the codex, you can’t actually equip the guy with a gun and concussion gauntlet. Which is a shame as this looks really cool. (basically they got the left and right arms wrong for the upgrades..)
Amazing job! I love both of them 🔥🔥🔥
You've got exactly the same issue with AK Interactive primer as I had. I've switched to Pro-Acryl from Monument Hobbies primer and I'll never look back. It has the finish of Stynylrez but the ease of use (and ease of cleaning the airbrush; Stynylrez almost destroyed my brand new Cult of Paint Infinity airbrush after one use, weird stuff) of AK or Vallejo primer. Give it a try, lad.
Edit* the stability of your hand makes me envious, sad and angry all at the same time, I can brace really securely and still look like I've got Parkinsons disease versus your hand 😂
Great video sir. I appreciate the free lessons. You work very hard to bring us the knowledge you share so generously. Lastly congratulations for being featured on the GW community page. I believe you doing 2 identical models in two different styles was the best idea. It showed how broad and different styles can be. Plus it was just more educational and useful in my opinion. Thank you again for teaching us and God bless.
A video dedicated to wet blending would be awesome!
I honestly can see the second one is better but there's something classic feeling about the first one, the colors pop out more and I like it way more for actual play, I have to go with the classic style
As a guy with a blonde birthmark in his hair, the slightly lighter patch of hair on the first mini makes me happy. I was always very self consious of my birthmark as a child and even got bullied because of it, but over time I learned to love the part of me that is different to most people, it helps me to feel unique and possibly connects me to my ancestors as it's an element of my D.N.A that may have been passed on from one of them (or maybe it's just a random genetic mutation), either way it's part of who I am, and it makes me feel special, so seeing characters that share a similar aesthetic makes me feel less alone and reminds me of how I was able to find the importance of not letting insecurity prevent me from seeing the beauty of being different.
Nice mini trovarion!!!!
is this the video in which you drop the torvarion jr. ?? congratulations!
Love the video! I’m sorry, what’s up with Ak paints and ink? That seemed like a pretty big bomb 💣
Well, I can tell you right now that it'll be the one that looked best on 'camera'.. how well the contrast & colour etc popped. Not necessarily the best painted either; By the standards they'd use for the kind of display piece they wanted.
Point 1/.
Yes please to a wet blending vid.
2/.
This vid is saved, and i will keep referring back to it. ( this only happens with you, 52, and Ninjon)
3/.
Hair looks great. 👍
A wet blending video would be awesome!
AK paints are very good, but primer has some problems. It clogs airbrush a lot, is so extremely matt that it is hard to wetblend on it, and is very fragile. I tried to varnish it, but it didn’t work very well, and I came back to GSW, Vallejo and Badger.
Second one is more my kind of a thing, but both of them are awesome.
Aw what an adorable reason to have messy hair
Btw, the "messy" hair looks great
Ah damn. Sees this video in his feed a week AFTER Cyber Week.
They still have the 3 for 60USD,
plus my code gives 10% on top 😬
Orange is the way! Both version rock and so does intotheam (shopping shopping shopping)
oh my that primer defect was painful.. =O
Yes please to the wet blending video!
That was awesome.
Loving the Proud Dad energy here.
My face at 2mins 20 after my AK black primer was delivered yesterday and is sitting on the table ready for priming. Any solution for this? 😂😭
@11:09 Is that Bill Burr?
I don't particularly like the super smooth blending of the second mini. I have always thought it makes that look like a flat painting, something that looks better in a photograph as part of a diorama, not something three dimensional.
The highlight and shadow on the second one only make sense if you are actively imagining the light source where the shadow/highlight is suggesting it is, rather than the actual real light source you are observing the mini under. This always makes it look unnatural to me.
Wait what was the choice you gave them?
Hair out of control for the best reasons, now let's paint but put the baby away first.
Give us da wet blending wisdom
yes to wet blending video :)
I really like this video T, showing different styles, techniques, as well as celebrating the community and other painters work. Thank you.
Thank you! Always high praise coming from a filmmaker I will never be as good as!
@@trovarion Bah, I've cheated and done it for so many years at a high level. Like you with the mini painting thing 😁
Two legends meet! I love both of your videos a lot!
We definitely need that wet blending video from you, Chris! I love that 2nd paintjob with the ambient so much, not to lessen the first one, but the 2nd feels so much more alive for me .
The black background really makes a big difference. Would've been interesting when they had shown all the other entries with a background of their choice.
I like to watch the illustriational style more, as it has a longer period of "what is he doing?! that can't work" than the more methodical method. But that might just be from familiarity.
The mini at 2:34 is the best! :D Congratulations!
Because of reasons... Congratulations!
The ultimate mini :)
Oh no Trov being artsy and awesome at it... as usual ;) Congratulations on fatherhood! ...now we'll never get to play games again q_q Still gonna visit Australia(Or is that joke to old now) someday!
The ad in the video was like my art teacher telling me I need to buy some new tshirts.
I love both styles. The wet blended one is super cinematic, though, and it ticks all the right boxes for me. I'd love to see a wet blending tutorial by you! Also... OMG A BABY!!
I can’t wait for their killteam! I think I might fallow your steps here!
What a cool idea for a video. Love seeing this stuff from you! Edit: holy crap congratulations on having a kid!
I love how his rough and quick highlights are better than my most careful ones!! A skillful master you are Trovarion.
All the best for you and your family!
A very cool experiment with GW man.
You did a baby! Nice man, congratulations x. Absolutely stunning paint jobs you really captured the atmosphere in the second one.
Nice demonstration! This actually helps me a lot, since my painting look has never fallen into any category I've seen on line, but seeing these two made me realize mine is almost smack in the middle. I've played with a couple approaches, but I generally like the smoother, more uniform lightning and color of the non-traditional approach, but with a little more contrast to specific material differences, such as hard armor plate vs leather or metal equipment. This is just based on my own experiences being out in muddy, dusty combat environments and looking around, then imagining 'Okay, what if guys weren't wearing camo, but more vibrant colors? And then had all this dirt and dust everywhere and grime in all the cracks.' So you get spots that're sorta clean and vibrant compared to the surrounding dirt and dingy parts.
Anyway, great video, as always. Love seeing your more practical approach to painting and.. well, GW.
cool, thanks for sharing your story! Never worry if you "fit" into any category with painting. just always paint the way you enjoy and get the results you enjoy! It's your minis, your time spent, your hobby.
@@trovarion One thing I've found helpful about 'fit', however, is it makes it easier to narrow down my search if I want to improve something. I was never one to conform anyway, but I do like having guidelines and examples to start from. Seeing two styles tackle the same problem side by side is very helpful for those who want to tread their own ground and make their own style. They can pick a bit from each since it's easier to see what they have in common, and what they don't. Would be helpful to see more of that kind of thing. Maybe that's a recurring theme you could lean on if you need ideas at some point? Paint the same model in different styles and methods, side by side. Help people learn how to mix and match elements.
yes AK primers ARE TRASH. HOWEVER to properly use them is to airbrush them and let them sit and dry proper for 48 hrs and then you may paint over them. Thats what i realized about AK primers. Its not meant for your speed painting needs...
Glad they have shown both as I think both are amazing and highlight different feels for these models.
Anyone have a complete color list?
Since I’ve started using mini techniques, my large prints are getting better.
Hey man, i really enjoyed this vid. Thanks for your efforts!