I'd call that weird file thingy a file thingy.. everything in England can be called a thingy or whatsit, providing you point and wag your finger in the general direction of said whatjamacallit.
A video about English terms for "anything I can't remember the name", i.e. "whatsit", "thingamebob", "whojimaflip" etc. Or mad English things like "bigger-bugger-itis".....that would be interesting
I think it's pretty clear that, although the English invented the language, we have no idea what to do with it.... Now I'm oft to meet whatsherface near wheresit to have a few thingymajiggys.
Ah yes, a folder with a thingimabob! - But the plastic packaging that holds paper we refer to as "plastic wallets" usually, or at least in my home town in Yorkshire.
@@AthAthanasius "International "or EU standardization? What sizes of paper do they use in say ,China or Japan? The USA and Canada are worlds unto themselves and far away from Europe. And who uses paper anymore anyway? Arent todays' offices supposed to be on-line , digital and paperless(lol)?
It's a very neat mathematical design: A5 is half A4, which is half A3, which is half A2, and all have the exact same aspect ratio (square root of 2), till you get up to A0 which is exactly one square metre. It's no wonder it's almost universally adopted worldwide. (/Looks askance at the Americas.)
Isn't A4 half the area of A3? Making it difficult to cut into two pieces of A4. Anyway 500 sheets of foolscap make a ream and 500 sheets of A4 make a metric ream .... Maybe?
UK paper sizes are now metric, hence the difference. That isn't really a ring binder its a lever arch file, ring binders usually pop like you have in Canada, come with 2 or 4 rings, Staples sell both. :D
Marky Mark - if anyone said lever arch file to me, I’d hand them a folder and think ‘absolute mong’ before carrying on my day. Or possibly say, ‘would you like a folder to go with your pretentiousness?’
I'd call that a folder or a thin folder thingy. If you're not sure on a word, just put thingy after it. They will know what you mean. We use the brand name a lot. Like selotape instead of sticky tape and Hoover in stead of a vacuum cleaner. Or JCB for a digger. Great video. Keep up the good work.
I've been correcting my 15-year old daughter when she uses "thingy" or "whatchamacallit". I want her to someday be respected in the work place. She can use a real word or description. I'm old. I don't need respect, so for me, "thingy" it is.
And what about Snowpake for Correction Fluid? Why, how I remember (sort of) those heady daze when it hardened and you had to redissolve the crusted stuff using the thinners. Only how I remember that heady aroma teasing one's nostrils just before falling asleep at the desk. Mrs Nesmith has a lot more to be blamed for than inventing the stuff - if you remember her son was a bit of a Monkee.
Pretty sure than would be “Have you got one of those folders with the bendy clip things, not a ring binder you, know the ones with the pointy bendy clips the stab you under the finger nails”. Or “ One of those folders like [insert name of colleague] uses.”
4:00 Tipp-ex is also called 'Liquid Paper'. 9:00 Duo-Tang? I think I'd call it a 'small-bendy-folder-type-thing-you-know-that-you-put-papers-in-with-like-a-small-half-pocket-on-the-back-page-no-not-a-hard-folder-a-sort-of-small-bendy-folder-type-thing-okay-it-doesn't-matter-but-thanks-anyway'.
@@beckybloomwood29 Many moons ago, when I was still young and sprightly, we had something very similar but it was a cardboard file with what amounted to an ACCO clip built into the spine. Haven't seen one for over forty years tho' :O.
The paper sizes thing can be a real problem if you exchange files internationally. The paper size is built into document properties by software, and programmed into the printer as well. Send an A4 file to a printer configured for letter-size paper or vice-versa, and you'll waste half a day trying to figure out what's wrong. Take my word for it...
Yes Ian, I lived and worked for many years in both the US and the UK and I had never come across a duotang. Perhaps because I didn't know they existed I never looked for them. I always used to work with file folders and document wallets that were sans tangs. I didn't even know that there was such an animal as a three-hole punch! I guess that explains the wide variety of holes you find in some transparent punched pockets. I have often wondered why some of the holes or slots were there. I do remember being frustrated by not finding my favourite paper storage vessels in the US stationary stores.
@@NigeHaines You must have been living with your eyes shut ! I've not been overly office-related but have certainly seen papers punched with three holes. Think financial - old invoices and possibly bank statements.
That's it. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_size#North_American_paper_sizes I think A sizes make more sense because they scale better, A4 is half the size of A5, A3 is twice the size of A4. Simples. But of course it would make more sense, I've only ever used the ISO for paper.
A4 is _twice_ the size of A5 and half the size of A3, which is half the size of A2, which is half the size of A1, which is half the size of A0. Makes perfect sense. Kind of...
Once again, wonderfully entertaining, eminently watchable... gotta say tho, second time you said 'about' you still sounded totally Canadian. Yep, had to laugh. Thanks though, great vid. Love your work.
I think we'd call it a folder or a presentation folder. The problem is, lots of other things can be referred to as folders too! This is amazing, never realised paper sizes aren't even the same across the atlantic!
Try using Microsoft Publisher (if you can get hold of a copy) and try using it for UK paper and you will have a wonderful time having go through hoops to get it to work :P
So, I literally just discovered your channel yesterday, and it's immediately become my go-to when I'm on breaks from my uni reading. You're, like, infectiously chill. Super calming. Absolutely loving the content though. My boss at work is Ontarionian, and I feel like I'm going to be using you as my translator for those times when she asks something and I very quickly run to Google it! I think she may have asked me where to buy a duotang once and I just shrugged.
That's because the height:width ratio is the square root of 2 (1 to √2) which makes it infinitely scalable in the manner you said. someone really put a lot of thought into ISO paper sizes.
What does the "A" mean? And are there not needs for paper of other sizes - say 2/3 the size? In the US (and I think, Canada), we have letter size (8 1/2" X 11") and Legal size (US) or Ledger size (Canada), which I believe is 8 1/2" X 14" in both countries. In North America those are the only standardized sizes of paper. All the rest are just lumped as "note paper" and can be myriad sizes. But ALMOST EVERYTHING to do with paper comes in letter size or legal/ledger size. Canada and Bermuda are quirky mixes of US and British culture to us Americans.
There are B and C series too which fill the gaps, but A series is most common. If you're really interested then the wikipedia article explains the different sizes and how they are created.
@@landslave8367 I'm not sure what the A stands for but the equivalent envelopes are C4, C5 etc. (ie you can put an A4 document in a C4 envelope unfolded or a C5 envelope if it is folder in half. Folding it in three on the other hand you put it in a DL envelope, which is less logical....?
We were helping our 8 year old with his English homework. He was asked to place a period in the correct areas of the paragraph. This totally threw us. I had to go and see the Head Mistress.... (Principal) ... The next morning to explain how confusing the homework was. If adults can't understand what is required then how do you expect an 8 year old to get it? There were a few blank looks until we all eventually got it. Oh how we all laughed.
haha, as an englishman who has never worked in the office environment, always been in construction, ... most of the words you used were alien to me :) another fun video! keep up the good work.
Wait... wait... wait... You've never heard of blue tack? Or Tipp-Ex? And you must know the paper size? I cannot fathom the fact that you don't know what blue tack is... like how
Hehe, it seems i have upset the Alanah fanboys club! sorry guys. i now know what "blu-tac" is, and if anyone ever used it on one of my jobs... they would never work again! :D
It's been over thirty years since I left Canada for Australia and you made me feel like I was back in Grade 6 when you said Dou-Tang. You are literally the first person I've heard use that word in 30 years. Thank you for making an old(ish) bloke smile!
I've lived in Ontario my whole life and even I got a kick out of duotang. I haven't come across one since high school and had completely forgotten about them. And being of a certain age, I also remember long forgotten things we used before photocopies: stencil, ditto, mimeogragh, and the photocopy forerunner, the photostat, where the printing would fade completely after just a few months. Good times. Also, that British binder looked rather awkward and complicated. I much prefer the simpler three ring binders we have here.
Duo tangs are called pocket folders or sometimes prong folders. Duo tang is the name of the manufacturer in the US. Here they were originally made by Esselte I think. 2, 3 and 4 ring binders are easily found in the UK although 2 and 4 are most common. You demonstrated a lever arch file which are preferred by business because they stand better on a shelf when archived and cannot burst open - Any student will testify to the collapsability and burstability of overfilled ring binders on a shelf! I should add that almost the entire world except north America uses the ISO paper size system of A4, A3, etc - your odd American paper sizes would be B4 and B3 in ISO
Re Duo-Tang / Esselte -- it's the other way around: the Duo-Tang company (of Paw Paw, Michigan) was bought out by Esselte in 2004. Re paper sizes -- the ISO system is superior in my view simply because when you fold A3 in half you get A4, when you fold A4 in half you get A5, and so one: makes life so much easier when you need to scale things up and down on a photo-copier! (For the technically minded, the largest size, A0, has an area of 1 square metre with a dimension ratio of 1 to √2: that gives you a size of 841 by 1,189 mm -- not that you're very likely to come across a sheet of paper that big outside of a printing works! -- and, if you fold that four times, you end up with an A4 sheet of 210 × 297 mm.)
I really love these videos. Totally reminds me of when I moved back to Britain in my teens from overseas and didn't have a clue what they were talking about. I moved to Glasgow, Scotland and it took me a long time to get to grips with things. You are very brave to put these videos up, because it can open you up to nonsense, but it's great the way you deal with the comments. Wish you well and look forward to new instalments.
Hi! Another thing I noticed when talking to my sister-in-law from England is that when she wants to make a definite point about something, she will add the term 'full stop' to the end of what she is trying to get across, whereas in Canada we will say 'period' to the end of what we are trying to make a definite point about. I think also in Canada we would call the larger sized paper 'legal size' as well as ledger size. Three ring and duo tang apply all across Canada. Love your show. Cheers!
I remember the look on the face of my boss who was from the U.S.A when I asked a colleague if I could borrow her rubber!! (Rubber = Eraser). Apparently It means something very different elsewhere! HaHa PS - The big folder is what we call a Lever Arch File, A Ring Binder is the kind that you described where you snap the metal bits open and closed. Great video x
One of the more comic examples is the British insistence on calling a vacuum cleaner a "Hoover". The first vacuum cleaners over here were made by Hoover. No other Hoover products were sold here. As this continued for about twenty or thirty years it became ingrained in our society that they are called 'Hoovers". I have heard people go into a shop and ask to buy a "Hoover" to which the salesperson counter asks which make would you like? Electrolux, Henry or Dyson? This has happened so many times. Children are very often asked "Have you hoovered your room?
That annoys me anytime someone calls vacs "Hoovers" on a British tv show. I think to myself "Hoover also made fridges, so how do you clean your floor with a fridge? Call it a bloody vacuum cleaner! They come in other brands too!"
Duo tang? I’m American from DC we call these file folders with three binder clips to secure papers and a pocket in the front and back. I went to school for a year in the Netherlands and when I got back to DC I had to resize all my research papers to fit American size paper sheets, known as letter and legal size paper. Love your videos. I’m considering moving to the UK and they have been most helpful and fun to watch. I like how you address the haters in a fun way, but don’t internalize their comments. You’re smart, naturally beautiful, not an introvert, with a quirky in a fun way warm personality. They can’t keep up. Thanks for making these. Much appreciation.
I just checked Wikipedia and Duo-Tang was the American company that made those folders. Staples sells them as Duo-Tang report covers or folders. I guess they got known by the brand name in Canada, just as we often say Kleenex instead of tissue.
I'm pretty sure Duotang is a Canadianism and is only used in Canada but it's a brand name that has been used to refer to the object itself, like Kleenex. I did notice that you said lever LEVVER, I'm not sure if all Ontarians would pronounce it that way but growing up in Western Canada, I was taught LEEVER, which from what I can tell is how they would pronounce it in the UK too.
Lever arch files like the one you have are generally for larger quantities of paper, a ring binder that pops open is for smaller amounts (usually two rings but sometimes four). Oh, and I think the Duo-Tang would be called a Report File or a Project File
Random observations: Xerox - photocopier; band aid - plaster; parentheses - brackets; exclamation point - exclamation mark; "levver" we pronounce as "leave-er"; it looks like you have a massive raven behind your right shoulder, and off your left shoulder is that a mirror or an optical illusion beneath the flag?
I am from the Midatlantic US and have lived in Florida a long times. Yes, I say "Xerox" all the time and sometimes I can see the gears turning in young people's heads. band aid = adhesive bandage (but we ALL say Band-Aid), parentheses are these: ( ) Brackets are these: [ ] and brackets are also these { }. Definitely period. NEVER heard full stop until this video! Jumper (US: A person threatening suicide) (UK: a jacket to keep you warm).
Hugh Tube Question from an American: If you call these “( )” brackets, what do you call these: “[ ]”? In the US, parentheses are curved, brackets are angled.
For standard projects with less paper, our binders (in UK) are actually very much the same as yours, you just pull them apart (no lever). The one you have shown (with the lever, and the paper grip/holder) is primarily for larger binders that allow considerably more paper in them.
Duo-tang was the name of the company who made them in Michigan, they got bought out by Oxford / Esselte, but just like in England with their Tipp-Ex, we call any such folders duo-tangs here in Canada. They're used in elementary schools here before students move on to binders.
Great vlog, The duotang I would call it a book folder or a spine folder, When we moved to Canada our young son gave me a list of school supplies he had to have when starting classes. Most of it we understood but Sharpie, white out, and duotang were a complete mystery. Thanks again.
I have read that "treasury tags" were also called "India Tags" as they were used by the British bureaucrats (AKA civil servants )working in their government offices involved in administering "The Raj", "back in the day".
I'm English living in Canada for 18 years. I worked in the civil service for 13 years in England about 45 years ago. Only last week I asked a co worker who is also English and was also a civil servant what those string tags were called. I really liked them and you could tell the length by the different colors. I sometimes wish Canada had them Also in Canada we dont have box files.
The recipe file you showed at the end has a few names, in retail (like at Staples) it is usually called a 'pocket folder with fasteners', there are also 'presentation folders' (which are hit or miss on whether they have fasteners), or the bulkier, less attractive ones often used in archiving are called 'transfer files' although they usually have a pocket on the long edge at the back of the folder, not the short edge.
In the old pop tune about "Route 66" which was a big hit and inspired a popular TV show of the 1950-60's it was called" Root 66". But otherwise its pretty much interchangeable depending on the person..I never thought of it as particularly regional. One hears both versions wherever one travels to in the USA. One might say its a linguistic anomaly.
Around here, New York, “root” is used for roads, Kids deliver papers on a paper “rowt”......to make it more confusing...a “Root” can be “Rowted” around the main part of town (avoiding the main part of town), a battalion of soldiers can be “Rowted” from their target.
IF you ever go to"Joisey" you will be instructed by radio and TV announcers to "take ROWT 9" in order to get to the mall, car dealership, outlet store , etc.. otherwise, "Fuggedaboudit!"
My Dad worked in an office in the USA once. He made the mistake of asking a female staff member for a rubber. apparently rubber is something else entirely in the us! He had to explain the english call them something different and he was not a pervert.
In the USA we have "rubber bands" which some call "elastics". A "rubber" in the UK is called an "eraser" in the USA A rubber in the USA is a very different thing....
@@GFSLombardo I heard there were issues when we exported the biscuit brand "Ginger Nuts" to the US. And Aussies could easily ask for Durex meaning sellotape to us ! :)
That duotang folder is like an optical illusion! The first time I saw you hold it up I thought the picture on the front was a drawing of a close up of a woman in a swim suit stood in a swimming pool! 8:10
So did I. When you talked about "what you would you call something like this", I immediately thought "a woman's dress top?" Great (?) minds think alike!
Just got to love this, never knew there were differences, not that it’s going to effect me, EXCEPT, there’s a Canadian girl at work, she’ll know, oh yes, I’ve told her about you!
In England we also have binders which open the same way as yours do in Canada, we also have binders with 4 rings too. When Tip-pex first came out in the 1980's we used to also call it liquid paper
#notallbinders I think most of these are down to brand names. Like with Tipp Ex, it's really called as you pointed out, correction fluid. Blu-Tack is a brand, a popular one, forgive the pun but... it sticks. It's what people are used to. Like Sellotape is a brand, but it's what we call all clear tape. One that you never mentioned but does my swede right in is vacuuming. People here will often say they need to hoover up. They mean vacuum, but hoover used to be massive, so it's what people say. Sucks right? :) Not sorry for that one.
I agree Jim. Brand names tend to become synonymous with products that are new and inventive, just as you said with Hoover becoming known as very common name for a vacuum cleaner and which led to the verb 'hoovering', meaning the action of using a vacuum cleaner. A good reversal US/Canadian to English would be the brand Kleenex being synonymous with disposable tissues where as in the the UK they are known as just 'tissues', being made of tissue paper.
This was one of the best word comparisons for a while, some real weird words/phrases. I'm not even kidding, if you asked me anything about a duo tang? Did you say, I swear I would have absolutely no idea whatsoever what you was referring to, I didn't even know that phrase existed. Also for that booklet/folder, I haven't seen one like that since I was in primary school, we use to have folders for our homework etc or assignments, and we'd have to put all our work in folders just like that with the two metal rods you bend outwards to keep the papers in place, or we used what I just googled and found out where called 'treasury tags' small green strings with metal prongs on here: mcsofficesupplies.co.za/image/cache/catalog/TREASURY_TAG-500x500.jpeg And again with paper sized. I swear until today, I thought paper sizes were universal.. If someone said to me.. "Hey the printer is out of letter paper" My first thought would be.. Letter paper, you can use any paper to write letters, wtf is letter paper.. Walk up to the printer and be like.. Ohh you need more A4?
Also, I would probably call it a presentation folder. It looks like something you might get given as a prospectus if you were interested in buying a car, going to a certain university or buying a new build house etc.
The thing at the end would be a report file, or just a folder. We have pretty generic terms for stuff. Folder could cover just about any document holding apparatus.
How the hell do you make such dull content so entertaining? I am genuinely puzzled as to why I enjoy your videos so much, but I do and look forward to the new one every Tuesday. :o) One different pronunciation I noticed during the video was the way you say lever.
"If you move to England or Canada you might find yourself in an office environment", I think I'm more likely to find myself in an unemployed environment
I would call the flimsy thing a presentation binder (that's a bit of a catch-all, covers a multitude). The binder you demonstrated is a 'lever arch file' and a binder or ring binder is smaller in terms of capacity but does have those pull apart, snap to close rings you know Alanna.
I think we have ring binders too, the same as you would find back in Canada... what you have there is a subset of binder called a lever arch file or folder, which is kind of what it is, a lever with a couple of arch rings! And the duo tang, I think would be a portfolio.
You look like the lady who advertises Scottish Widows insurance. That aside, love the video. It's amazing how we all speak English and yet It's almost lime a different language to some. We had an American working with us who asked to use the rest room. We said we didn't have one. He was incredulous. "You don't have a a toilet?!"
Tipp-Ex, Sellotape, Blu-Tak, Post-It notes - all 'genericized trademarks'. In other words people refer to correction fluid as Tipp-Ex, even if it isn't actually Tipp-Ex. That makes it very difficult for people who come from outside the UK, because the brand names are usually not used worldwide.
Yes, 3-rings is the overwhelming (but not only) option. Hole punches make holes to match. The two outside rings/holes are 4.25 inches from the center ring/hole. Two holes is the standard when you punch at the top.
I'm subbing here. I found this quite funny and brilliant as I'm slightly in a current opposite situation. Although born in Ontario, my Father was British, and we all just adapted to his vernacular and accent growing since birth here in Ontario. The nuns at grade school would pelt my hands with yard sticks for my perceived accent, and improper wording when asking for things and tasks. And now as an adult going back to England, I find it almost seamless in transition. But your observations are really quite entertaining and informative to a point where I've not given thought to it in this light. I'm going to keep up with your deal over there and wish you the very best in all the coming years. Looking forward to installments.
Like Tipp-Ex, Blu Tack is also a brand but they have both become genericized in the UK. I probably have called the folder thingy with the recipes in a brochure or portfolio folder though most don't come with the eyelets.
In the UK re BINDERS 2-4 rings is a RING binder. These are the ones you were describing, and they are exactly as you described over here as well. Lever ones are crammed LEVER ARCH files (like the blue one you held up). We can also get BOX files which are in an A4 size with a large clip to hold the paperwork in place You can also buy the smaller A5 size in ring binder form as well.
"White Out" and "Tippex" are both brand names for correction fluid, (as is "Liquid Paper" in the USA.) The different names have been adopted as the accepted standard in the areas where each brand is more readily available.
When I went to school in Nova Scotia many moons ago, we wrote everything down in 'scribblers', made by a company called Hilroy. They were small paper notebooks, with about 40 letter/A4 sized pages.
Another naming difference concerning stationery items that I don't think anyone else has mentioned yet is that what we in the UK call "drawing pins" are, I believe, known west of the Atlantic as "thumb tacks".
Incidentally, we have the 3 ring spring binders too but these are usually used for smaller amounts of paper. The one with the "lever" that you have, is used for much larger amounts of paper (much thicker)....
As a Canadian I know all about Duo-tangs, we use them all the time, it is the brand name like Kleenex or Band-Aide but I don't know what the generic name is. A4 is similar to Letter 8.5x11 inches, legal is 8.5x14 inches and ledger or tabloid is 11x17 inches. In Canada and the US we usually print on letter size except in the legal profession where it is all written on, you guessed it, legal sized paper. Both sizes will fit in an A10 sized envelope but you'll need to fold the legal in 4 and the letter in 3 to get it in the envelope. Does the legal profession use A4 or do they have their own special size?
When I worked in an office in Waterloo, Ontario, I asked for several things in English with totally threw the Canadians. Tipp ex.... Whiteout. Rubber... Eraser. A4 paper.... 11x17". Mobile.....cell.
We tend to call them Blu-tack and Tippex because they were the first brands that introduced these products in the UK. It's like Post-It notes & Sellotape too....
just subscribed, great videos...been binge watching. Love your sense of humour. Youre a credit to your country, and a great asset to ours(uk), never go home, we want you to stay!!! Im in the county next to you..Sussex, Have a good day at work tomorrow, Im off to the Canaries.....Bon
as you said, thanks to the general exposure to American and Canadian tv, films etc... pretty much all of the things i could've figured out what you meant, but that last one, the "duo tang" ? i'd have had no idea at all about, mainly because i don't think i've ever actually seen a folder, i guess is the closest we have to it, like that with the metal clips to hold the pages etc...
Lever arch files are more for archiving - standard binders are easier to flip through. 3+ rings is better for a normal binder. We have 4 ring binders in the UK and some notebooks will have four-hole punched paper (which will also work in a 2-ring binder) but 4-hole punches are fairly rare.
Great video as always, knowing naff all about offices in general, your more or less teaching me apart from.... that stupid ring binder design i first saw a few years back, the 2 ring binders we used to have in the uk were pull open ones too. not a clue why they went to the complicated snap and lever design. thats one up for Canada right there :)
We still have the "normal" ring binders, the "snap and lever" design is for larger binders for holding hundreds of sheets and it's been around for ages.
One thing that riles me is when Americans and Canadians always say they're "Gonna GO AHEAD and do something",NO YOUR NOT !! your just gonna GO.. and do something grrr !!! lol. Yet another great video,thanks Alanna
I love your videos.... they make me laugh.My half brother was brought up in the far North of BC and he is so Canadian..... Im from london he live in the wilderness. such a difference. Keep it up.... lol
Paper size craziness: In the US you have Executive (7"x10") Folio/Foolscap (8x13) Ledger/Tabloid (11x17) Letter (8.5x 11) and Legal (8.5x14). However in the UK, we use ISO sizes from A0 to A12 where A1 is half an A0 sheet, and so on, so A4 is half A3. A4 is 8.27" x 11.69" with A3 being 11.69" x 16.54". There are still some quirks, such as foolscap used in older filing cabinets. Additionally, you can get 2 and 4 ring snap binders like your 3 ring binders. The one you have is called a lever arch file. We don't really have anything like a duotang, which is a brand name in Canada, although you can get them from Amazon in the UK.
Different parts of the US has different names for items. A sub, hoagie, grinder, hero, etc. I was wondering if different businesses also have different names they call items. In different retail chains a printed out sketch of where items are set up can be a plan-o-gram, a print out, etc. I have noticed when working with Word setting the paper size uses the official names for paper sizes, A2, A3, A4 etc. including envelope and index card sizes. Thanks for the great videos.
Hi Alanna, Just watching this awesome video again. Call me impatient, but I just couldn't wait for your next new video. LOL. Incidentally, I have given you a shout-out on one of my latest videos on my channel. Incidentally, we actually have Blu-Tac and Green-Tac, though we also call the Green-Tac, Blu-Tac here in Australia, just to confuse everybody. LOL. We used to call White Out, Tippex, but then we changed brands and it became White Out or Liquid Paper. Anyway, all the very best. Robert.
UK - your big Staples 'binder' is a 'Lever Arch File'. Thinner versions are 'Ring Binders' - they have circular metal rings that snap together in the middle, without using a lever. They can be a bit 'bitey' so watch your fingers... 'Duo-Tang' is a brand name, similar to the UK using 'Tipp-Ex'. Not sure we have them in the UK - 'Display Books' with a fixed number of pages are sort of similar...
I'd call that weird file thingy a file thingy.. everything in England can be called a thingy or whatsit, providing you point and wag your finger in the general direction of said whatjamacallit.
Very true!
It's a bit awkward when whojamaflip wants the whatjamacallit and all you can say is "It's over there, by the file thingy." 😂
A video about English terms for "anything I can't remember the name", i.e. "whatsit", "thingamebob", "whojimaflip" etc. Or mad English things like "bigger-bugger-itis".....that would be interesting
I think it's pretty clear that, although the English invented the language, we have no idea what to do with it.... Now I'm oft to meet whatsherface near wheresit to have a few thingymajiggys.
Language of Shakespeare...apparently. 😁
In the south west, we call anything that stores paper a folder. You differentiate by asking for "the folder with the thingys"
Pretty much the same in Wales & Yorkshire.
They reply do you mean a wotsit or a doin's?
I loved living in Bristol, but that sort of crap drove my OCD to insanity. Getting off of a bus 'CHEERS DRIVE' .. WHAT THE FUCK
Ah yes, a folder with a thingimabob! - But the plastic packaging that holds paper we refer to as "plastic wallets" usually, or at least in my home town in Yorkshire.
@@martinturner4622 poly pockets here
"I literally couldn't be bothered to check" - Made me actually roar with laughter! Keep it up :D
paper sizes are easy, A4 is half the size of A3 which is half the size of A2..etc. and you can cut 1 A3 into 2 Pieces of A4 :)
And these are international sizes, not specific to the UK. It's the USA and Canada who are being odd ones out on this one.
@@AthAthanasius "International "or EU standardization? What sizes of paper do they use in say ,China or Japan? The USA and Canada
are worlds unto themselves and far away from Europe. And who uses paper anymore anyway? Arent todays' offices supposed to be
on-line , digital and paperless(lol)?
It's a very neat mathematical design: A5 is half A4, which is half A3, which is half A2, and all have the exact same aspect ratio (square root of 2), till you get up to A0 which is exactly one square metre. It's no wonder it's almost universally adopted worldwide. (/Looks askance at the Americas.)
Differences make us interesting!
Isn't A4 half the area of A3? Making it difficult to cut into two pieces of A4. Anyway 500 sheets of foolscap make a ream and 500 sheets of A4 make a metric ream .... Maybe?
UK paper sizes are now metric, hence the difference. That isn't really a ring binder its a lever arch file, ring binders usually pop like you have in Canada, come with 2 or 4 rings, Staples sell both. :D
Marky Mark - if anyone said lever arch file to me, I’d hand them a folder and think ‘absolute mong’ before carrying on my day. Or possibly say, ‘would you like a folder to go with your pretentiousness?’
Adam West lever arch files are bigger and more sturdy than standard size folders though
killallsuvivors - 🎼 ‘oh yeeeeeeaaaaahh, I’m actually haaaavinnnnggg, a conversation about biiiiiiiinderrrrrrrrrs’🎼
@@adamwest8711 no a conversation implies you have made a input into the discussion you're actually being educated about lever arch files
killallsuvivors *an
You know we have ring binders with usually two or four rings that you can just pull apart? What you showed was a lever-arch file.
Whoops!! I forgot about that name. You are completely correct, that is another name we call them here in Australia.
I'd call that a folder or a thin folder thingy. If you're not sure on a word, just put thingy after it. They will know what you mean. We use the brand name a lot. Like selotape instead of sticky tape and Hoover in stead of a vacuum cleaner. Or JCB for a digger. Great video. Keep up the good work.
Yeah I was about to request that she type out what she said, because I was even confused at their name. "Dual...tang?"
And cash machine instead of ATM
I've been correcting my 15-year old daughter when she uses "thingy" or "whatchamacallit". I want her to someday be respected in the work place. She can use a real word or description. I'm old. I don't need respect, so for me, "thingy" it is.
And what about Snowpake for Correction Fluid? Why, how I remember (sort of) those heady daze when it hardened and you had to redissolve the crusted stuff using the thinners. Only how I remember that heady aroma teasing one's nostrils just before falling asleep at the desk. Mrs Nesmith has a lot more to be blamed for than inventing the stuff - if you remember her son was a bit of a Monkee.
Pretty sure than would be “Have you got one of those folders with the bendy clip things, not a ring binder you, know the ones with the pointy bendy clips the stab you under the finger nails”. Or “ One of those folders like [insert name of colleague] uses.”
Very true 🤣
No-one knows what those floppy folders are called. If you want one, just go and get one from the cupboard or steal one from a colleague.
No one except Canadians: they're called "duotang" www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/duo-tang ... but seems only Canadians use the word
At school we call those bendy metal things butterfly clips, and would probably call the folder thing a butterfly folder or something like that
4:00 Tipp-ex is also called 'Liquid Paper'. 9:00 Duo-Tang? I think I'd call it a 'small-bendy-folder-type-thing-you-know-that-you-put-papers-in-with-like-a-small-half-pocket-on-the-back-page-no-not-a-hard-folder-a-sort-of-small-bendy-folder-type-thing-okay-it-doesn't-matter-but-thanks-anyway'.
😂
I've always referred to it as Liquid Paper. Think it predates Tippex. I certainly remember using it at high school in the mid 80's.
@@peterb2286 Tippex, or the even more snooty "Snow Pac", is for the posh folks, not the likes of us :lol:
I think the answer about what duo-tang is, is that we don’t have them here. Not with the butterfly clips in.
@@beckybloomwood29 Many moons ago, when I was still young and sprightly, we had something very similar but it was a cardboard file with what amounted to an ACCO clip built into the spine. Haven't seen one for over forty years tho' :O.
The paper sizes thing can be a real problem if you exchange files internationally. The paper size is built into document properties by software, and programmed into the printer as well. Send an A4 file to a printer configured for letter-size paper or vice-versa, and you'll waste half a day trying to figure out what's wrong. Take my word for it...
In the UK we don't have an exact match for a duotang, I think closest is a project folder/file.
Yes Ian, I lived and worked for many years in both the US and the UK and I had never come across a duotang. Perhaps because I didn't know they existed I never looked for them. I always used to work with file folders and document wallets that were sans tangs. I didn't even know that there was such an animal as a three-hole punch! I guess that explains the wide variety of holes you find in some transparent punched pockets. I have often wondered why some of the holes or slots were there. I do remember being frustrated by not finding my favourite paper storage vessels in the US stationary stores.
@@NigeHaines You must have been living with your eyes shut ! I've not been overly office-related but have certainly seen papers punched with three holes. Think financial - old invoices and possibly bank statements.
You have a talent for making the simplest things sound so funny!
The UK, like most of the world, but not North America it seems, use the ISO (International Standard) for paper sizes
That's it.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_size#North_American_paper_sizes
I think A sizes make more sense because they scale better, A4 is half the size of A5, A3 is twice the size of A4. Simples.
But of course it would make more sense, I've only ever used the ISO for paper.
Ledger and Foolscap are still used and are available from Office stationers. Accountancy uses Ledger, Solicitors still us Foolscap
A4 is _twice_ the size of A5 and half the size of A3, which is half the size of A2, which is half the size of A1, which is half the size of A0.
Makes perfect sense. Kind of...
To be fair we used to use those sizes too and sizes such as foolscap. The A sizes are very logical, think they were invented in Germany initially.
@@peterwesson7324 Yep. It was years ago that I worked for Prontaprint, but foolscap, and others were still in use. Just not as common.
Once again, wonderfully entertaining, eminently watchable... gotta say tho, second time you said 'about' you still sounded totally Canadian. Yep, had to laugh. Thanks though, great vid. Love your work.
Hi hun I love the word differences between our countries and I love how you say 'out' I could never get bored of it lol
If someone came up to me and asked for a ... do-a-tang... I'm pretty sure I'd be serving them some kind of orange flavoured beverage.
Thomas Stokes It sounds to me like it should be some kind of sour sweetie for kids!
I think we'd call it a folder or a presentation folder. The problem is, lots of other things can be referred to as folders too! This is amazing, never realised paper sizes aren't even the same across the atlantic!
We call it a folder as well in the US. Duo Tang ... Sounds like something astronauts would drink.
We just call anything we put paper in a folder, unless it's like a draw or f... file... wait... shit
It catches me out every time I print something (a brit, living in the US).
Try using Microsoft Publisher (if you can get hold of a copy) and try using it for UK paper and you will have a wonderful time having go through hoops to get it to work :P
I don't have any problems using Microsoft Publisher with UK paper sizes, I have used all versions from v2 to 2010.
So, I literally just discovered your channel yesterday, and it's immediately become my go-to when I'm on breaks from my uni reading. You're, like, infectiously chill. Super calming. Absolutely loving the content though.
My boss at work is Ontarionian, and I feel like I'm going to be using you as my translator for those times when she asks something and I very quickly run to Google it! I think she may have asked me where to buy a duotang once and I just shrugged.
Thank you so much, that's so kind!!
The thing I love about our (UK) paper sizes, A6 is exactly half of A5, which is exactly half of A4, which is exactly half of A3, etc
That's because the height:width ratio is the square root of 2 (1 to √2) which makes it infinitely scalable in the manner you said. someone really put a lot of thought into ISO paper sizes.
What does the "A" mean? And are there not needs for paper of other sizes - say 2/3 the size? In the US (and I think, Canada), we have letter size (8 1/2" X 11") and Legal size (US) or Ledger size (Canada), which I believe is 8 1/2" X 14" in both countries. In North America those are the only standardized sizes of paper. All the rest are just lumped as "note paper" and can be myriad sizes. But ALMOST EVERYTHING to do with paper comes in letter size or legal/ledger size. Canada and Bermuda are quirky mixes of US and British culture to us Americans.
There are B and C series too which fill the gaps, but A series is most common. If you're really interested then the wikipedia article explains the different sizes and how they are created.
@@landslave8367 I'm not sure what the A stands for but the equivalent envelopes are C4, C5 etc. (ie you can put an A4 document in a C4 envelope unfolded or a C5 envelope if it is folder in half. Folding it in three on the other hand you put it in a DL envelope, which is less logical....?
We were helping our 8 year old with his English homework. He was asked to place a period in the correct areas of the paragraph.
This totally threw us.
I had to go and see the Head Mistress.... (Principal) ... The next morning to explain how confusing the homework was. If adults can't understand what is required then how do you expect an 8 year old to get it?
There were a few blank looks until we all eventually got it.
Oh how we all laughed.
Really enjoyed this video, fascinating by the different meanings.
You're just the coolest, I love sitting and listening to you it's so calming. Looks like the decorating is coming on well :)
I would call that a folder, and the big one a ring binder, x
yeah Folder
@@Uniqorn Or to be correct a Lever Arch File
Id call them both a folder lol
Lever arch file
yup, folder
8:30 - I would call it a binder or folder (although I have never seen one of them with metal tabs), and the one with rings, a ring binder
haha, as an englishman who has never worked in the office environment, always been in construction, ... most of the words you used were alien to me :) another fun video! keep up the good work.
Wait... wait... wait... You've never heard of blue tack? Or Tipp-Ex? And you must know the paper size? I cannot fathom the fact that you don't know what blue tack is... like how
@@flightlesslord2688 Yeah, funny he wouldn't know what blue tack is - I think a lot of new-builds use it for structural purposes.
Hehe, it seems i have upset the Alanah fanboys club! sorry guys. i now know what "blu-tac" is, and if anyone ever used it on one of my jobs... they would never work again! :D
It's been over thirty years since I left Canada for Australia and you made me feel like I was back in Grade 6 when you said Dou-Tang. You are literally the first person I've heard use that word in 30 years. Thank you for making an old(ish) bloke smile!
BTW, I would also giggle when people needing an eraser would ask for a 'rubber'.
I've lived in Ontario my whole life and even I got a kick out of duotang. I haven't come across one since high school and had completely forgotten about them. And being of a certain age, I also remember long forgotten things we used before photocopies: stencil, ditto, mimeogragh, and the photocopy forerunner, the photostat, where the printing would fade completely after just a few months. Good times. Also, that British binder looked rather awkward and complicated. I much prefer the simpler three ring binders we have here.
Duo tangs are called pocket folders or sometimes prong folders. Duo tang is the name of the manufacturer in the US. Here they were originally made by Esselte I think. 2, 3 and 4 ring binders are easily found in the UK although 2 and 4 are most common. You demonstrated a lever arch file which are preferred by business because they stand better on a shelf when archived and cannot burst open - Any student will testify to the collapsability and burstability of overfilled ring binders on a shelf!
I should add that almost the entire world except north America uses the ISO paper size system of A4, A3, etc - your odd American paper sizes would be B4 and B3 in ISO
Re Duo-Tang / Esselte -- it's the other way around: the Duo-Tang company (of Paw Paw, Michigan) was bought out by Esselte in 2004.
Re paper sizes -- the ISO system is superior in my view simply because when you fold A3 in half you get A4, when you fold A4 in half you get A5, and so one: makes life so much easier when you need to scale things up and down on a photo-copier!
(For the technically minded, the largest size, A0, has an area of 1 square metre with a dimension ratio of 1 to √2: that gives you a size of 841 by 1,189 mm -- not that you're very likely to come across a sheet of paper that big outside of a printing works! -- and, if you fold that four times, you end up with an A4 sheet of 210 × 297 mm.)
I really love these videos. Totally reminds me of when I moved back to Britain in my teens from overseas and didn't have a clue what they were talking about. I moved to Glasgow, Scotland and it took me a long time to get to grips with things.
You are very brave to put these videos up, because it can open you up to nonsense, but it's great the way you deal with the comments.
Wish you well and look forward to new instalments.
Opened video. Liked immediately :)
Hi! Another thing I noticed when talking to my sister-in-law from England is that when she wants to make a definite point about something, she will add the term 'full stop' to the end of what she is trying to get across, whereas in Canada we will say 'period' to the end of what we are trying to make a definite point about. I think also in Canada we would call the larger sized paper 'legal size' as well as ledger size. Three ring and duo tang apply all across Canada. Love your show. Cheers!
I remember the look on the face of my boss who was from the U.S.A when I asked a colleague if I could borrow her rubber!! (Rubber = Eraser). Apparently It means something very different elsewhere! HaHa
PS - The big folder is what we call a Lever Arch File, A Ring Binder is the kind that you described where you snap the metal bits open and closed.
Great video x
I wasn't sure of your Canukiness until I heard a barely disguised "A-boot". As is in were "aboot" to go out for the night.
If your Doutang was coloured orange it would be a Orangedoutang 🙉
@Crap Bag....Thank you for giving me a deep snort of amusement today.
BRRUMMP-TISSHHHHHHH!!!!!
Yup it would be an orange duo tang. Likewise, a red duo tang would be ...you get the idea.
So should Mole grips be black and furry ?
Well done and kudos on your TH-cam name.
One of the more comic examples is the British insistence on calling a vacuum cleaner a "Hoover". The first vacuum cleaners over here were made by Hoover. No other Hoover products were sold here. As this continued for about twenty or thirty years it became ingrained in our society that they are called 'Hoovers". I have heard people go into a shop and ask to buy a "Hoover" to which the salesperson counter asks which make would you like? Electrolux, Henry or Dyson? This has happened so many times. Children are very often asked "Have you hoovered your room?
That annoys me anytime someone calls vacs "Hoovers" on a British tv show. I think to myself "Hoover also made fridges, so how do you clean your floor with a fridge? Call it a bloody vacuum cleaner! They come in other brands too!"
"Period" in England means something very different :p
yeah, the period after the war, is that what you mean? ..or are you going for the cheap laugh?
A period of time?
means many different things
When a woman says "I need to get to the bathroom, period" that gives you a very good idea as to why she needs the bathroom.
Is safe to say if you have a period after every sentence it's prob the wrong time of the month 😉
Duo tang? I’m American from DC we call these file folders with three binder clips to secure papers and a pocket in the front and back. I went to school for a year in the Netherlands and when I got back to DC I had to resize all my research papers to fit American size paper sheets, known as letter and legal size paper.
Love your videos. I’m considering moving to the UK and they have been most helpful and fun to watch. I like how you address the haters in a fun way, but don’t internalize their comments. You’re smart, naturally beautiful, not an introvert, with a quirky in a fun way warm personality. They can’t keep up. Thanks for making these. Much appreciation.
I just checked Wikipedia and Duo-Tang was the American company that made those folders. Staples sells them as Duo-Tang report covers or folders. I guess they got known by the brand name in Canada, just as we often say Kleenex instead of tissue.
I'm pretty sure Duotang is a Canadianism and is only used in Canada but it's a brand name that has been used to refer to the object itself, like Kleenex. I did notice that you said lever LEVVER, I'm not sure if all Ontarians would pronounce it that way but growing up in Western Canada, I was taught LEEVER, which from what I can tell is how they would pronounce it in the UK too.
@DirtRoadTraveler What part of the US? The internet says it's an Canadian thing but it could have extended to the northern parts of the US
MyghtyMykey Yep, lever is LEEVER in the UK.
@DirtRoadTraveler Duo-Tang is a Michigan product. Created in Paw Paw in 1931.
Michigan product 90 years old!
But across the pond we would/will say levver as well :)
Lever arch files like the one you have are generally for larger quantities of paper, a ring binder that pops open is for smaller amounts (usually two rings but sometimes four).
Oh, and I think the Duo-Tang would be called a Report File or a Project File
Random observations:
Xerox - photocopier; band aid - plaster; parentheses - brackets; exclamation point - exclamation mark; "levver" we pronounce as "leave-er"; it looks like you have a massive raven behind your right shoulder, and off your left shoulder is that a mirror or an optical illusion beneath the flag?
That's her massive raven
He`s called "Nevermore"
I am from the Midatlantic US and have lived in Florida a long times. Yes, I say "Xerox" all the time and sometimes I can see the gears turning in young people's heads. band aid = adhesive bandage (but we ALL say Band-Aid), parentheses are these: ( ) Brackets are these: [ ] and brackets are also these { }. Definitely period. NEVER heard full stop until this video! Jumper (US: A person threatening suicide) (UK: a jacket to keep you warm).
[ parentheses ] ( brackets ) { can't remember}
Hugh Tube Question from an American: If you call these “( )” brackets, what do you call these: “[ ]”? In the US, parentheses are curved, brackets are angled.
For standard projects with less paper, our binders (in UK) are actually very much the same as yours, you just pull them apart (no lever). The one you have shown (with the lever, and the paper grip/holder) is primarily for larger binders that allow considerably more paper in them.
So what do Canadians call A5 sized paper? Fun vlog as always.
Duo-tang was the name of the company who made them in Michigan, they got bought out by Oxford / Esselte, but just like in England with their Tipp-Ex, we call any such folders duo-tangs here in Canada. They're used in elementary schools here before students move on to binders.
Duotang! Lol brings me back.
Great vlog, The duotang I would call it a book folder or a spine folder, When we moved to Canada our young son gave me a list of school supplies he had to have when starting classes. Most of it we understood but Sharpie, white out, and duotang were a complete mystery. Thanks again.
Have you ever come across treasury tags?
Yes! Never seen them in Canada before, so not sure what the other word for them would be.
Yes, they're a real pain when they get tangled up.
I have read that "treasury tags" were also called "India Tags" as they were used by the British bureaucrats
(AKA civil servants )working in their government offices involved in administering "The Raj", "back in the day".
I'm English living in Canada for 18 years. I worked in the civil service for 13 years in England about 45 years ago. Only last week I asked a co worker who is also English and was also a civil servant what those string tags were called. I really liked them and you could tell the length by the different colors. I sometimes wish Canada had them
Also in Canada we dont have box files.
@@BritClips what about pigeon holes?
The recipe file you showed at the end has a few names, in retail (like at Staples) it is usually called a 'pocket folder with fasteners', there are also 'presentation folders' (which are hit or miss on whether they have fasteners), or the bulkier, less attractive ones often used in archiving are called 'transfer files' although they usually have a pocket on the long edge at the back of the folder, not the short edge.
One thing I don’t understand is why when an American sings “Route 66” he pronounces it root not rowt.
.....good point...
In the old pop tune about "Route 66" which was a big hit and inspired a popular TV show of the 1950-60's it was called" Root 66". But otherwise its pretty much interchangeable depending on the person..I never thought of it as particularly regional. One hears both versions
wherever one travels to in the USA. One might say its a linguistic anomaly.
Rout in Britain is a woodworking term for the removal of wood (routing) using a router. Either a power or hand tool.
Around here, New York, “root” is used for roads, Kids deliver papers on a paper “rowt”......to make it more confusing...a “Root” can be “Rowted” around the main part of town (avoiding the main part of town), a battalion of soldiers can be “Rowted” from their target.
IF you ever go to"Joisey" you will be instructed by radio and TV announcers to "take ROWT 9" in order to get to the
mall, car dealership, outlet store , etc.. otherwise, "Fuggedaboudit!"
I could listen to you all day. Great videos
My Dad worked in an office in the USA once. He made the mistake of asking a female staff member for a rubber. apparently rubber is something else entirely in the us! He had to explain the english call them something different and he was not a pervert.
In the USA we have "rubber bands" which some call "elastics".
A "rubber" in the UK is called an "eraser" in the USA
A rubber in the USA is a very different thing....
lol yup, it was an eraser he was after
@@GFSLombardo I heard there were issues when we exported the biscuit brand "Ginger Nuts" to the US. And Aussies could easily ask for Durex meaning sellotape to us ! :)
Blu Tack - also available in white.
That duotang folder is like an optical illusion! The first time I saw you hold it up I thought the picture on the front was a drawing of a close up of a woman in a swim suit stood in a swimming pool! 8:10
Me too. I need new glasses. ;o)
So did I. When you talked about "what you would you call something like this", I immediately thought "a woman's dress top?" Great (?) minds think alike!
Guilty as well! I thought it was a bikini top
Yes, yes, yes I also thought at first it was a bikini top :)
so we are pervs
Just got to love this, never knew there were differences, not that it’s going to effect me, EXCEPT, there’s a Canadian girl at work, she’ll know, oh yes, I’ve told her about you!
ABOAT
don't worry, it sounds good
ABOOT
In England we also have binders which open the same way as yours do in Canada, we also have binders with 4 rings too. When Tip-pex first came out in the 1980's we used to also call it liquid paper
#notallbinders
I think most of these are down to brand names.
Like with Tipp Ex, it's really called as you pointed out, correction fluid.
Blu-Tack is a brand, a popular one, forgive the pun but... it sticks.
It's what people are used to.
Like Sellotape is a brand, but it's what we call all clear tape.
One that you never mentioned but does my swede right in is vacuuming.
People here will often say they need to hoover up.
They mean vacuum, but hoover used to be massive, so it's what people say.
Sucks right?
:)
Not sorry for that one.
Blu-Tack is also very descriptive-it is the colour blue, after all.
I agree Jim. Brand names tend to become synonymous with products that are new and inventive, just as you said with Hoover becoming known as very common name for a vacuum cleaner and which led to the verb 'hoovering', meaning the action of using a vacuum cleaner.
A good reversal US/Canadian to English would be the brand Kleenex being synonymous with disposable tissues where as in the the UK they are known as just 'tissues', being made of tissue paper.
Interesting stuff. Staples is now Office Outlet. and the paper sizes in Britain are 2A0, A0, A1, A2, A3, A4, A5, A6, A7, A8, A9 and A10
This was one of the best word comparisons for a while, some real weird words/phrases.
I'm not even kidding, if you asked me anything about a duo tang? Did you say, I swear I would have absolutely no idea whatsoever what you was referring to, I didn't even know that phrase existed.
Also for that booklet/folder, I haven't seen one like that since I was in primary school, we use to have folders for our homework etc or assignments, and we'd have to put all our work in folders just like that with the two metal rods you bend outwards to keep the papers in place, or we used what I just googled and found out where called 'treasury tags' small green strings with metal prongs on here: mcsofficesupplies.co.za/image/cache/catalog/TREASURY_TAG-500x500.jpeg
And again with paper sized. I swear until today, I thought paper sizes were universal.. If someone said to me.. "Hey the printer is out of letter paper" My first thought would be.. Letter paper, you can use any paper to write letters, wtf is letter paper.. Walk up to the printer and be like.. Ohh you need more A4?
As an American, I’d also have no idea what a duo-tang is. Sounds like it might be a brand name?
Also, I would probably call it a presentation folder. It looks like something you might get given as a prospectus if you were interested in buying a car, going to a certain university or buying a new build house etc.
Well at lest I know what a period is know after living in the UK for so long
The thing at the end would be a report file, or just a folder. We have pretty generic terms for stuff. Folder could cover just about any document holding apparatus.
Duotang sounds like an obscure kind of zebra.
I think it must surely be an endangered species.
How the hell do you make such dull content so entertaining? I am genuinely puzzled as to why I enjoy your videos so much, but I do and look forward to the new one every Tuesday. :o)
One different pronunciation I noticed during the video was the way you say lever.
"If you move to England or Canada you might find yourself in an office environment", I think I'm more likely to find myself in an unemployed environment
in Canada it might be a stoner environment ,considering the just legalized cannabis.
@@NGT4LIFE lol
Well... why'd u move?
😂😂😂👏
plenty of jobs in Canada, at least here.
I love picturing the moment when you ask your coworkers for these items and they have no idea what you are talking about!
Good stuff
Just another pronunciation difference I noticed. In the south of England we'd say lever as 'leaver' as opposed to lev-er.
People in the South of England are also remoaners
Inspire6 Really? Don’t bring politics into this. There’s no need.
I don't know anywhere in the UK that would say "lever". It's always "leaver".
LMAO... Labour supporters will bring politics into everything. I'm not Labour. So you must be.
@@Inspire6 ...I'm just gonna let your idiocy speak for itself. No further comment needed.
I would call the flimsy thing a presentation binder (that's a bit of a catch-all, covers a multitude). The binder you demonstrated is a 'lever arch file' and a binder or ring binder is smaller in terms of capacity but does have those pull apart, snap to close rings you know Alanna.
Duo tang (I don’t think I’ve spelt it correctly) is now my favourite word.
#YBLC
I think we have ring binders too, the same as you would find back in Canada... what you have there is a subset of binder called a lever arch file or folder, which is kind of what it is, a lever with a couple of arch rings! And the duo tang, I think would be a portfolio.
You look like the lady who advertises Scottish Widows insurance. That aside, love the video. It's amazing how we all speak English and yet It's almost lime a different language to some. We had an American working with us who asked to use the rest room. We said we didn't have one. He was incredulous. "You don't have a a toilet?!"
If a visitor from the USA visited your home and asked to use the "bathroom" would you secretly be tempted to offer him/her a towel?
What we should really be asking is what happened to all the Scottish Husbands...
@@UFBMusic they went to fight against Napoleon and they formed a society to take care of their families if they didn't return
@@sie4431 Oh, I thought they were done in for the insurance money!
@SI and here I thought they exploded because they couldn't find the 'Loo.
You’re honestly probably the sweetest girl on youtube! Love your videos! :D
And they say Canadians are boring. Cmon, where else are you going to get stationery based cultural information videos.
Or even "stationery based videos"
I don't know what you're talking about, I did spell it correctly. You must be hallucinating ;)
Tipp-Ex, Sellotape, Blu-Tak, Post-It notes - all 'genericized trademarks'. In other words people refer to correction fluid as Tipp-Ex, even if it isn't actually Tipp-Ex. That makes it very difficult for people who come from outside the UK, because the brand names are usually not used worldwide.
If your ring binders are 3 ringed, does that mean your hole punchers are all 3 bladed?
Yes, 3-rings is the overwhelming (but not only) option. Hole punches make holes to match. The two outside rings/holes are 4.25 inches from the center ring/hole.
Two holes is the standard when you punch at the top.
I'm subbing here. I found this quite funny and brilliant as I'm slightly in a current opposite situation. Although born in Ontario, my Father was British, and we all just adapted to his vernacular and accent growing since birth here in Ontario. The nuns at grade school would pelt my hands with yard sticks for my perceived accent, and improper wording when asking for things and tasks. And now as an adult going back to England, I find it almost seamless in transition. But your observations are really quite entertaining and informative to a point where I've not given thought to it in this light. I'm going to keep up with your deal over there and wish you the very best in all the coming years. Looking forward to installments.
Like Tipp-Ex, Blu Tack is also a brand but they have both become genericized in the UK. I probably have called the folder thingy with the recipes in a brochure or portfolio folder though most don't come with the eyelets.
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We sort of have a mix of ring binders over here, half are pull-open, and the other half have levers.
In the UK re BINDERS
2-4 rings is a RING binder.
These are the ones you were describing, and they are exactly as you described over here as well.
Lever ones are crammed LEVER ARCH files (like the blue one you held up).
We can also get BOX files which are in an A4 size with a large clip to hold the paperwork in place
You can also buy the smaller A5 size in ring binder form as well.
You can get 2, 3 and 4 ring binders as well as the spring lever locking type which you have there.
"White Out" and "Tippex" are both brand names for correction fluid, (as is "Liquid Paper" in the USA.) The different names have been adopted as the accepted standard in the areas where each brand is more readily available.
When I went to school in Nova Scotia many moons ago, we wrote everything down in 'scribblers', made by a company called Hilroy. They were small paper notebooks, with about 40 letter/A4 sized pages.
Another naming difference concerning stationery items that I don't think anyone else has mentioned yet is that what we in the UK call "drawing pins" are, I believe, known west of the Atlantic as "thumb tacks".
Incidentally, we have the 3 ring spring binders too but these are usually used for smaller amounts of paper. The one with the "lever" that you have, is used for much larger amounts of paper (much thicker)....
As a Canadian I know all about Duo-tangs, we use them all the time, it is the brand name like Kleenex or Band-Aide but I don't know what the generic name is.
A4 is similar to Letter 8.5x11 inches, legal is 8.5x14 inches and ledger or tabloid is 11x17 inches. In Canada and the US we usually print on letter size except in the legal profession where it is all written on, you guessed it, legal sized paper. Both sizes will fit in an A10 sized envelope but you'll need to fold the legal in 4 and the letter in 3 to get it in the envelope.
Does the legal profession use A4 or do they have their own special size?
When I worked in an office in Waterloo, Ontario, I asked for several things in English with totally threw the Canadians.
Tipp ex.... Whiteout.
Rubber... Eraser.
A4 paper.... 11x17".
Mobile.....cell.
We tend to call them Blu-tack and Tippex because they were the first brands that introduced these products in the UK. It's like Post-It notes & Sellotape too....
just subscribed, great videos...been binge watching. Love your sense of humour. Youre a credit to your country, and a great asset to ours(uk), never go home, we want you to stay!!! Im in the county next to you..Sussex, Have a good day at work tomorrow, Im off to the Canaries.....Bon
as you said, thanks to the general exposure to American and Canadian tv, films etc... pretty much all of the things i could've figured out what you meant, but that last one, the "duo tang" ? i'd have had no idea at all about, mainly because i don't think i've ever actually seen a folder, i guess is the closest we have to it, like that with the metal clips to hold the pages etc...
Lever arch files are more for archiving - standard binders are easier to flip through.
3+ rings is better for a normal binder. We have 4 ring binders in the UK and some notebooks will have four-hole punched paper (which will also work in a 2-ring binder) but 4-hole punches are fairly rare.
Great video as always, knowing naff all about offices in general, your more or less teaching me apart from.... that stupid ring binder design i first saw a few years back, the 2 ring binders we used to have in the uk were pull open ones too. not a clue why they went to the complicated snap and lever design. thats one up for Canada right there :)
We still have the "normal" ring binders, the "snap and lever" design is for larger binders for holding hundreds of sheets and it's been around for ages.
Bloody love your vids 🤗 can’t help but smile while watching ahaha
One thing that riles me is when Americans and Canadians always say they're "Gonna GO AHEAD and do something",NO YOUR NOT !! your just gonna GO.. and do something grrr !!! lol. Yet another great video,thanks Alanna
I love your videos.... they make me laugh.My half brother was brought up in the far North of BC and he is so Canadian..... Im from london he live in the wilderness. such a difference. Keep it up.... lol
Paper size craziness: In the US you have Executive (7"x10") Folio/Foolscap (8x13) Ledger/Tabloid (11x17) Letter (8.5x 11) and Legal (8.5x14). However in the UK, we use ISO sizes from A0 to A12 where A1 is half an A0 sheet, and so on, so A4 is half A3. A4 is 8.27" x 11.69" with A3 being 11.69" x 16.54". There are still some quirks, such as foolscap used in older filing cabinets.
Additionally, you can get 2 and 4 ring snap binders like your 3 ring binders. The one you have is called a lever arch file. We don't really have anything like a duotang, which is a brand name in Canada, although you can get them from Amazon in the UK.
Different parts of the US has different names for items. A sub, hoagie, grinder, hero, etc. I was wondering if different businesses also have different names they call items. In different retail chains a printed out sketch of where items are set up can be a plan-o-gram, a print out, etc. I have noticed when working with Word setting the paper size uses the official names for paper sizes, A2, A3, A4 etc. including envelope and index card sizes. Thanks for the great videos.
Hi Alanna, Just watching this awesome video again. Call me impatient, but I just couldn't wait for your next new video. LOL. Incidentally, I have given you a shout-out on one of my latest videos on my channel. Incidentally, we actually have Blu-Tac and Green-Tac, though we also call the Green-Tac, Blu-Tac here in Australia, just to confuse everybody. LOL. We used to call White Out, Tippex, but then we changed brands and it became White Out or Liquid Paper. Anyway, all the very best. Robert.
8:08 - And, i'd probably call that a folder with wellies (boots) on it...
UK - your big Staples 'binder' is a 'Lever Arch File'. Thinner versions are 'Ring Binders' - they have circular metal rings that snap together in the middle, without using a lever. They can be a bit 'bitey' so watch your fingers... 'Duo-Tang' is a brand name, similar to the UK using 'Tipp-Ex'. Not sure we have them in the UK - 'Display Books' with a fixed number of pages are sort of similar...
I think we called the little pin things in the duotang as paper fasteners!
Arch lever file is self explanatory, the smaller thinner one is a presentation binder.