LITERALLY WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT!! And why did they make it seem like the prank was done by Cinderella, Prince Charming and their gang and that's why the red queen hated them but it was the other villains that were pranking her??? Supposedly Cinderella doesn't even go to the dance... make it make sense.
@kirstenbracale6879 @Recyclable89 Actually it could infact be Cinderalla, notice how the villains were unable to open the book, meaning that they couldn't have done the prank, meaning that it had to be someone else who did it, Cinderella
@@kumar_reena06 yeah thats what i thought while watching it! I was so confused when it ended all of a sudden without seeing the prank and the ella plottwist
I think its bc if they actually showed the dance it would spoil how in the next movie the dance causes time to be messed with (back to the future style or something)
Morgie was so excited to light Bridget on fire. Sir, it is literally not that serious. Uliana decided she wanted revenge, not a prison sentence. She's the common sense friend
Let me fix the ending... The villains get the book, and Red and Blue (Her name is Chloe, Dylan, keep up) go to the dance to keep an eye on things and try to interfere. Blue gets to see her parents fall in love. We as an audience get to see the wardrobe department pop off. Red gets more time with her mom. The villains give her mom the cursed cupcake, and even though Red is trying to warn her that it's a trick, the mom wants so bad to believe that all of her attempts to be friends is actually succeeding and if she doesn't accept the cupcake she'll hurt their feelings. So Red, in front of everyone and to save her mom's future, takes the cupcake from her and takes a bite to prove it's cursed. She becomes a hideous monster, like the cupcake is supposed to make her, and young fairy godmother turns her back. Theoretically this would work better with a minor extra scene or two with her and maybe some encouragement. The villains get in trouble with Merlin. Red's mom is moved by her willingness to take the cupcake rather than let her do it. Maybe there's even a line of her asking why, and Red saying it's "because I love you". The mom could point out that Red doesn't even know her, and Red could say, "but I want to". The dance ends happily, and the two go back to the future, but it isn't back to the principal's speech. It's a little before that, while everyone is arriving and mingling, and Red and Blue find their mothers talking and laughing because they stayed friends, and they're equally glad to see their daughters, wondering where they always go off to. Because if the moms stayed friends, Red and Blue would have grown up together. There's the Reprise, the warning that this isn't the end of the story and the end! This would have been so much more satisfying, I think, and a bit more on brand for Disney.
YES THANK YOU THEY NEED TO HIRE YOU CUZ I HATED THIS MOVIE the ending was trash like you cant hype up this dance ALL movie even how Blues parents met and then just NOT GO. and IF the spell book was spelled to keep those that will use it for evil out by freezing them HOW DID they get their hands on it in the FIRST TIMELINE to curse Reds mom?!!!! makes no sense
china anne mcclain (uma) and cameron boyce (carlos) were very good friends in real life. there was a lot of skepticism about disney continuing the franchise without cameron, and china wanted to make sure proper respects were paid to him. so it makes sense that they'd do it first thing, to show new and old fans that they're not just going to disregard him, and instead will respect his memory.
this movie was planned since before his death tho and he wanted it to be done, China did it in his honour and disney called her and his family first to see how to mention Carlos so everything would be respectful.
Honestly, this movie feels like an essay you started early but then were too lazy to finish, only remembered about it right before the deadline, and didn't really have time to finish it so you threw together the shortest end paragraph possible just for the sake of it being there. Still liked it tho 🤣
Maybe there will be another movie where Uliana returns, and she isn't reformed like the other villains. Or maybe not just Uliana, but Red actually made the future worse and has to sacrifice her kind mom and her freedom by time traveling again, undoing her interference, and just end up fighting her mom until she surrenders her tyrannical power peacefully.
And not even Morgana! Ursula already has a little sister, but they made up one just to keep Hades and Maleficent from showing up. Seeing them as weird teens falling in like with each other, setting up Mal existing, could've been hilarious
I think it's the same reason they chose not to have Ursula. It's cause having ursula could lead to red and cindy's kid channeling that hatred to Uma, so they chose a character that doesn't have any kids we know. Just a theory
@@camc1057 It would have been hilarious tho, If Red and Chloe met Mal in the next movie and were like: So, yeah, we saw your parents as teens and Mal is just: ?!?!?
@kaldurskipper6821 I think they chose to name her uliana because morgie was the son of Morgana from Camelot and they thought it would be confusing. Originally I had a problem with the change as well, because I love the little mermaid 2 so much that my daughter is named Melody after Ariel's daughter in that movie. But after I thought about it, it actually kinda made sense.
Literally! It made zero sense how a villains baby sister was the ringleader, instead of Maleficent the mistress of Evil and Hades who is basically the Disney equivalent of the devil. So weird how Hades and Maleficent weren’t running the school and being the main bullies
i love how when young bridget was like "its Jasmine and Aladdin" he was ready to dance but as soon as they said "call us jaladdin" his facial emotions and expressions changed so dramatically.
I like the idea of her turning evil and adopting the accent because she thinks it makes her scarier😭 but that wouldn't explain why she's still british at the end
Maddox Hatter is played by Leonard Nam, born in Argentina to South Korean parents before moving to Australia as a child and then the US. I think he’s trying to do a more British accent for the character but his natural accent does lean more Australian. So kinda explains why it feels like soo many accents in one.
it’s entirely plausible that she just learned to codeswitch to sound meaner bc of ppl taking advantage of her kindness and decided that one sounds more menacing my family r immigrants so I hear like 5 different accents from all of them
dylan getting mad at red for not taking an actual bite but it just reminded me of every actor ever saying food scenes were the worst bc they spend the whole day eating the same exact food til they get sick 😭
It’s more of HOW they play off the eating. He pointed out that we didn’t see the bite, whereas in most movies and shows for eating scenes, they’ve actually put foods in their mouths .
During the Superfragalistic scene in Mary Poppins they made a ton of the same food with different flavours so the kids eating during the song didn't get bored or nauseous :)
This why some actors keep spit buckets when they have to eat in scenes so they can spit something out when the director calls cut. Also why they tend to take smaller bites. I remember seeing an interview of Tom Cruise saying he had to eat so much cake when filming The Outsiders because he was taking big bites at first and then got so sick.
Yeah, like I saw an interview of Friday Night Dinner, a show that (in every like 30-40 min episode, has eating in it at some point, like a full roast dinner) had a guest on for one episode, and while everyone else was eating small vegetables to be able to do multiple takes much easier, the guest ate like a load of full potatoes, and eventually felt really sick by the end. Being an actor who has to eat in takes must be awful lmao
I was so convinced they’re building it up for a reveal that it was Cinderella who did the prank?? She was the one the Queen had a personal issue with and she literally sings a song about getting her hands dirty. It would be a great twist if the prank didn’t happen not because the bullies were stopped but because Cinderella got grounded after the broken vase thing, therefore she didn’t attend the ball! I honestly believe they cut out the last portion of the script or something cause they didn’t have enough time. The third act makes absolutely no sense as it is.
I had the same thought while watching the movie because every time they showed Cinderella and Bridgette, and the latter talked about getting people to like her, Cinderella's facial reactions were suspicious. Like she didn't want Bridgette to befriend anyone because maybe that'd leave her alone since they were both outcasts? Or some other reason. But Cinderella was definitely off in the movie.
im pretty sure it is ella and will be talked about it in the next movie it would just make sense since she got grounded and wasnt at the dance since the evil people wasnt there to begin with bc of the spell in the book but then, how did she met prince chariming/got together with him? what was her intention? was she just jealous? i think they left out the prom part for this specific reason but its a pretty poor choice to split it in two movies heck, maybe just make a mini series for this wouldve been better and including some other locations and characters in it , working on the character development in general
The writing in this movie made me want to bash my head against a brick wall. Firstly, why was the Queen of Hearts named Bridget? Why not Rose (“We’re Painting the Roses Red”) or something like that? Her name should’ve had meaning. Secondly, the whole thing with the prank was a joke. From the beginning, it made no sense that the bullies would’ve pulled the prank. Bridget was an absolute angel. There’s no way getting humiliated by bullies would’ve been enough to turn someone that kind into a mass murderer. That kind of mass transformation had to have been prompted by something personal. And besides, the bullies literally COULDN’T have pulled the prank if, as the movie itself pointed out, they couldn’t even USE THE BOOK that had the prank in it. The only thing that would’ve made sense is if Cinderella had pulled the prank. What else would’ve broken up her and Bridget’s friendship? All the movie had to say was that, in a moment of extreme anger and exhaustion, Cinderella decided she wanted to free herself of her stepmother. So she got the spellbook, which she was able to use because she was a good person. But because she wasn’t magical-she wasn’t a fairy, she wasn’t a sorceress, etc.-and didn’t know what she was doing, the spell backfired and THAT resulted in Bridget’s humiliation. Bridget would’ve seen it as a personal betrayal by the one person she trusted most. Cinderella would’ve fallen all over herself, apologizing and trying to explain. But Bridget finally would’ve cracked. It would’ve been such an interesting plot, and it actually could’ve explained, in part, why Cinderella was under her stepmother’s thumb for so long-she felt so bad about hurting her best friend that she was afraid to hurt anyone else, so she completely submitted to her stepmother. Disney has got to stop letting ChatGPT write their movies.
That would have actually worked so well. Also it would add nuance to the characters and could have resulted in some interesting musical moments (like a heartbroken ballad or something)
ella (cinderella) did end up being like grounded kinda when chloe broke the vase sooo like that would've semi-stopped her from doing anything like that if she was the one who did it
I think that the movie would have been SO much better if it was Cinderella who did the prank. It would have been a trust between two best friends broken and explaining why Bridget was so mad at Cinderella.
Brandy and that guy reprising their roles as Cinderella and Prince Charming from their 90s version of Cinderella absolutely SHOCKED me! I loved that movie as a kid and never expected to see them play these characters again. I wish Dylan had known the lore, it would’ve been so much more fun for him. 😃
Exactly! Him skipping over that huge cultural throwback was a bummer. Not his fault if he didn't know but Brandy has always been my favorite Cinderella so I'm biased lol
Even funnier is, if the book had the spell on it anyway how did the villans even end up doing the prank the first time if they where not even able to read the book
They didn't. I think the one who did the prank was cinderella or something and they for some reason saved that for the next movie. They were clearly hinting at their rivalry and its pretty disney channel to make the daughters fix the rivalry of their mothers. Edit: I didn't actually watch the movie so thats just my speculation on what theyre going for from the little that I do know. The reason the prank didn't happen has got to do with something red and blue changed while interacting with the other characters.
@@daniella_otsuki Cinderella being the "real villain" would have been an amazing third-act reveal, but they literally did nothing. That's not the kind of thing you leave for another movie, it makes this one look like absolute nonsense
This confused me so much when I watched it! I thought the same thing cuz it seems so obvious that it shouldn't have changed anything if the spell was already there. I kind of thought Cinderella did the prank and they were gonna go back to the present to find out they didn't fix anything. Imagine my surprise when it was actually a success 😃
It's crazy to include hades on that villain group because then I remember that he's a literal god who prolly just shapechanged into a teenager to hang out with maleficient.
Honestly, that’s extremely on brand for how the Olympian Gods would fornicate with mortals. It would make perfect sense that he shapeshifted to be the most appealing he could be to her. I also like that they weren’t the ring leaders of the group of villains, they cared more about each other than that.
i’m surprised he didn’t mention the way cinderella’s daughters hair changed SO NOTICEABLY when they finally left the courtyard😭 WHO WAS IN CHARGE OF CONTINUITY IN THIS MOVIE
her hair was actually the same, if you know anything about how black hair works, curls are more defined and slightly looser when wet. But when the hair dries, shrinkage occurs and sometimes it can look shorter and obtain more volume. You need to keep in mind how long a scene, let alone the movie entirely, is shot. Obviously in between shots, her hair is gonna get dry from all the moving, running, and in the sun. They can only keep fixing it so much between each take because curling hair takes time and they have to account for the amount of sunlight they have left to film in that day (unless the shot/scene calls for it to be at night)
@@nunugirlswag109i’m actually black! i assumed with the way it was cut that she walked straight from the courtyard into the other room; their clothes weren’t wet or anything so i assumed there hadn’t been rain or anything else to make it get wet! i was also referring to the color of the wig, it went from one dimensional to like 4 different shades of blue between cuts my original comment definitely wasn’t malicious in intent, but i get where ur coming from
@@nunugirlswag109 i also assumed they were each wigs which would give their teams more control over how and when the hair changes texture and length (forgot to say this in my first reply)
@@jsamuel3986 oh no, I’m sorry if my comment came off that way 😅 I wasn’t trying to make it seem like you were being rude or anything. I was just trying to educate because trust me, I was thinking the exact same thing when I first watched. But I watched a lot of Behind the Scenes and interviews and Chloe’s actress stated it was the same wig but the curls kept coming undone so the change in definition was noticeable between scenes lol. And yeah the actresses/characters themselves weren’t wet literally, I just meant the hair and makeup team obviously wet her hair to define and set the curls. Now shading wise, idk if they put some sort of sheen that brightened the shade of blue at certain times. Can’t explain that one lol sorry again about the tone in my previous comment
Them not ensuring the prank didn't happen is especially crazy because one of the perpetrators is _Maleficent_ who famously doesn't have a great history when she feels wronged
Well nothing happened to Maleficent specifically so i dont think she would be bothered, especially when you see her and hades holding hands and walking at a leisurely pace while everyone is running after Uliana (I forgot most of the movie btw) She's fine.
@@aishaarshadalam3412 love how well we know dylan, cause i saw a few movies that i've hoping he'd do for a while now and immediately thought "not gonna say anything tho, or he might not do it" 😂
I love how Dylan just glossed over the fact that ELLA WAS OBVIOUSLY the one playing the prank-And how she DIED like HELLO I thought he would’ve LOVE the death
I hadn't heard the phrase "You get more with sugar than salt." However it does remind me of the saying "You catch more flies with honey than vinegar." I think that is what they are going for with the metaphor
@@yadhira.a971 I’m not saying this to be rude, but that’s not the best metaphor 😂 even sweet things like cake need salt, and bread doesn’t need sugar but relies on salt, same with anything savoury. I see what they were going for but could’ve made it clearer haha
32:06 there is a fan theory why the Prank wasn't shown: Queen of Hearts seemed to be angry primarly at Cinderella and the Book should have frozen the Villains in the first place too. So the theory is the Cindy was the one to prank QoH. The Timeline still changed because thanks to Red and Blue she was grounded and probably couldn't attend the ball. Cindy is very persistent that the prank was harmless which would be true if she was the one to do it never actually trying to hurt her friend. QoH could have seen this as her first and only true friend also not actually being on her side and maybe using her to get for example a dress for the ball since Cindy is poor and QoH isn't. Anyway it wouldn't make sence that the Villains were the ones to prank her because their prank idea wouldn't have changed just because Red and Blue were there and they would have been frozen regardless.
The biggest plot hole is the spell on the book because if they didn't put it there, then it was already there and would have stopped the villains anyway so that COULDN'T have been the prank that made her evil....and therefore she must still be evil
Watch Disney try to fix this in the next movie by saying the VKs never opened the book and it fell in Cinderella’s hands instead. 100% the next movie is them explaining how Cinderella was the one who played the prank on Bridget and that’s why their relationship never recovered from that evening.
Chloe’s hair color changing every other shot either was like supposed to be a thing or supposed to drive me freaking insane I swear. Red looks just like a red headed Evie
Another gripe I have with this story is how Chloe was so shocked with how her mother lived. Isn't it public knowledge that her Mom was poor and mistreated before she met and married the prince? I understand getting shocked at how bad it probably was. But the way Chloe reacted was more like she was shocked it was even happening, like she had no idea that was her mother's backstory. Girl, why are you surprised your mother is doing all the cleaning alone? Did you think the wicked stepmother and stepsisters would help?
@@nobody42071 yes! In the first movie, Mal even mentioned Cinderella and the carriage, bippity-boppity-boo thing cause the plot was centered around FGM's wand. It's not a secret.
no but what frustrates me about the third act is that there is obvious foreshadowing that it was in fact Cinderella did the prank, also making it much more hurtful, but the entire third act is focused on the villains. Like the entire plot of them breaking in the principals office wasn't neccesary since the villains would have been stunnend by the book regardless of their presence ( just like that inidiana jones movie). What annoys me even more is that in the second movie the reason for the prank not having happend will definitely be cinderella being grounded, but there is already a plot hole for that. Siince after cinderella got grounded, the looked in the looking glass and everything still was horrible in the future so even that plot twist isn't executed well. Like they are probably going to show the prank and castlecoming in the next movie, at least i hope so, but the pacing is off and the plot twist already has plot holes without a proper reveal yet.
Cinderella didn’t do the prank. Remember she was off with the prince. That’s why Red’s mom was at her - Cinderella left her alone to dance with the Prince and that’s when she got pranked.
the way dylan has literally remained incapable of remembering and saying uma’s name correctly over the years w these reactions WHEN SHE LITERALLY HAS A SONG CALLED “WHAT’S MY NAME”
What if the queen of hearts remained ugly because the spell never wore off. She could've been depicted as a totalitarian figure in wonderland, wearing a mask to hide her face. And to give a bigger impact to the ending of the movie and show the importance of this prank that ruined Bridget's life and turned her evil; the villains got to do the prank on her, and using her crazy knowledge on auradon showcased at the beginning of the movie, Cinderella's daughter and red found her and brought her to the magic lake from descendants 1 and 3 where the water is supposed to break spells. They could have had a heartfelt conversation before going back to their own time. This conversation could have also helped heal red's relation with her mother. + For the queen of hearts' mask, I imagined a venetian mask, like the ones they use for the Venise carnival. With hearts, cards(the back) and chess board patterns to match the wonderland aesthetic. I thought the mask would help give a more distressing appearance to the queen in order to bring fear to her people. The idea to make her faceless for the beginning of the movie reminded me of "1984" by George Orwell with Big Brother. Mirroring the all-knowing and all-seeing totalitarian figure. When I talk about hiding her face, I mean that since the bal, no one has ever seen her face again(not even her daughter). I was thinking that right after the prank was made, she fled back home to Wonderland and met with the mad hatter, who maybe was around the same age and was her friend before she went to merlin's academy (he was an apprentice to the royal hatter and therefore spent a lot of time in the castle with her since she was homeschooled). Given that he was the one who created the magic time-traveling clock in the movie and that his job is to create hats for the queen, he could have made her a mask. For the beginning of the movie, the part when the queen is putting all of auradon under siege, I would have let the fairy godmother cast her spell to disarm the queen, except that she would have missed and hit the mask, making it fall and revealing her face to some people in the court(except Red, Cinderella's daughter and us, the audience, in order to emphasize the reveal at the bal, giving the girls a better understanding of the queen's character) before she rushes to put it back on. Bringing up her trauma, this would infuriate her, ordering the fairy's execution. Cinderella then steps in, trying to calm Bridget. So the queen, jealous of her ex best friend's life and going insane due to the humiliation she faced again after so many years, orders Cinderella's execution as well. I changed this part because I didn't like that Red made that decision out of pride because her ego took a hit from Cinderella
@LunaWitcherArt I am sorry to disappoint, but I am no writer...😕 I just shared an idea that I had in my comment. I have no writing skills whatsoever and would also be unable to create convincing dialogs ...😔 However, I am open to anyone who wants to use this idea and include it in their fanfic!
@monikaaaax3 I don't know. I haven't watched it, but it's a crazy coincidence! If in Once upon a time she wears a mask for the same reason, then I maybe get why they didn't do that in the movie, it wouldve been too close to Once upon a time (although I also think that they went a little easy on the writing for the script). The first "Alice in Wonderland" that I watched was Tim Burton's, so the idea to disfigure her came from there. Her actions would've been justified by the hatred, resentment, and loneliness that built up through the years. I will definitely have to check out once upon a time !
20:47 the funny thing is that as a designer I know exactly what that skirt is based on - Teresa Helbig Spring/Summer Madrid 2018 - and I just KNOW that someone on the team saw that skirt on Pinterest, texted it to the costume department and went like “Heeey so I want this but in pink and with some unnecessary stuff added on top. You feel me? Cool”
@ oh it definitely is. I actually think the costume department did really well when it comes to her looks overall. Still it just got a chuckle out of me
@claracatlady9844 😭 oh I thought u meant it as a bad thing. Like the thought process from ur jokey comment bc usually the costume department fumble with the outfit
And remember Cinderella gets grounded after the vase broke. So I wanted to see how She would have made it to the ball especially since that’s the place where they “fell in love”.
I figured she probably stuck out like in the fairytale. Also, is it so tough to let a villain be a villain? Like you are telling me the psychopath who kills people just for ordering the wrong roses was like that because she humiliated at a ball???
the GOOD: the production and the budget. looks 10x better than the other 3 movies combined. Uma's back!! the BAD: literally everything else. the music. the outfits (except for red). the way cindy's daughter's hair keeps getting longer and shorter every scene? the pacing of the movie. JALADDIN.
For sure, Red definitely had the best outfit in the movie, seconded by her mother. I love a good red and black color scheme! And I wish we'd gotten to spend more time in Wonderland because it looked *so* cool; the sets were giving Moulin Rouge! The Musical vibes in the best way. ♥
Also weird because Aladdin is a theif and jasmine is a princess so how did they even get together while in Merlin academy, ik they change the stories around a lil but damn 😭
I know this is so dumb to say in comments . But dylan you truly are my comfort youtuber. If I've had a bad day or just feel like dump I click on your channel and binge watch . You make my days better with your laughter.
The thing that I hate the most about Descendants, and this movie specifically, is that theyre not even TRYING to pretend like they arent just straight up copying Ever After High anymore. I saw the trailer for this, and my first thought was instantly " ofc they chose Wonderland, because EAH did Wonderland too" And Chloe Charming is literally just a worse version of Darling Charming, down to her personality and her color palette. AND Darling was the White Knight IN EAH's Wonderland, so OF COURSE Chloe is going to be in the Descendants movie about Wonderland. It would have actually made so much more sense if they went to Neverland or Atlantica because Uma is the daughter of Ursula from TLM but shes ALSO a pirate and friends with Harry Hook. They could have done a story with the daughter of Ariel, or Wendy, but nope, they chose WONDERLAND because EAH did it too. (This is not a dunk on the cast btw, I know they're not responsible for the script) Edit cause I just remembered: Castlecoming is only here because they couldn't do Thronecoming, you know, like EAH? Thronecoming is a much better pun than Castlecoming, but nah they just HAD to include because EAH did it too
Honestly, young fairy godmother might be my favorite too, she is casted perfectly and her line in that song is simply so cute, I've listened to it too many times
16:01 “Stop why are you sing-talking?” Me: rapping?? “Unless you travel back to 1776 there’s only one musical that can get away with it” Me: HAMILTONNN
20:07 The reasons that actors/actresses very rarely actually eat in movies and shows is because very often you have to do tons and tons of takes sometimes from different angles, so you might be eating that cupcake 20-50 times. So actors will either pretend to eat it, or take a real bite and then spit it out afterward.
I think everyone who watched this was disappointed by the final act... because you could barely call it a final act. It's as you said, the movie was building up to Castlecoming A LOT and it makes no sense to not show it for that reason and for the kids' motives. Why wouldn't they make sure nothing else bad happens to Red's mom as a result of changing the prank? How did the villain kids even get the book in the original timeline if it was always spelled? And why would this big change ONLY effect the Queen of Hearts' personality and nothing else (like the existence of Red, her closeness to future Cinderella, etc.) when time travel stuff typically works with "butterfly effect" rules?
This movie was good, until the end. There was no lesson learned, just 'oh she's good now'. Plus, if the book was always cursed, how was it ever opened by Uliana originally?
I have a theory that this is exact comment is the premise for another descendants movie like a follow up to this one, I think Cinderella is the bad one now so they will have to go back and fix what they did.
Dylan thinking this movie had budget when there’s clear green screen wide shots, the wigs go crazy, and there’s a literal sentence that’s just dubbed over, is so funny 😂
@@laylas3740 it’s that one scene when they’re looking at the castle coming poster and reds like , this must be where it happens, and then Chloe says something along the lines of “so how do we stop that” but she did NOT in fact actually say that 😆
hey dylan, the complete saying at 20:39 is probably referring to this: 'you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar' except they changed it to sugar and salt. but it's supposed to be this.
My problems with this movie: 1: Mad hatter's kid sets an ominous foreshadow about how you shouldn't mess with time, Red messes with time and nothing bad happens, everything goes her way. 2: How Red queen's past made her Red queen. So not justified. She literally became the red "off with your head" queen and you're telling me it's because she turned old in a dance? With her bubbly and forgiving (doormat) personality? Yeah, no. 3: The whole thing about descendants is giving second chances, Uma literally talks about it in the beginning. But what happens in this movie is that Red and cindy's kid just entirely change the red queen's personality, essentialy manipulating and crafting her to be a whole different person. Seeing her in the end was really weird. I mean, a person is made up of their experiences, good and bad. You enjoy they good and WORK THROUGH the bad. Erasing those experiences shifts a person's whole history, especially a core memory like that. Isn't that essentially killing someone, if you kill off the memories that made them them? 4: And what kind of lesson is that? Hey kids, if someone you know is "bad", has a bad attitude or had something happen to them, don't talk things out, don't try to reconcile them with whoever was involved. Instead, do whatever you can to completely manipulate them into becoming someone else. Second chances? Why give a second chance when you can just pretend whatever happened didn't happen? 5: Ursula's baby sister. Uliana, or however you say her name. What a let down. Every descendants movie, we've had good villains. When Uma came in on 2 and 3, you would think "damn she's gonna give Mal a hard time". But Uliana? She goes singing "the scariest things are scared of me" like no, they're scared of your sister, you're just a spoiled brat playing house. Then she goes on a whole song about revenge and how she's oh so bad and it's gonna be perfect. And her genius idea, get this, bake a cupcake and turn Bridget ugly (temporarily, even). Oh my, lock her up, how evil. I mean, seriously. I could deal with it if the real villain would be trauma, like Encanto, where Red would actually have to talk with her mom and figure shit out and help her, but noooo. 5: Castlecoming. They talk about it so many times and we never actually get to experience it? 6: The way they fixed things is so rushed. After they got the book from Uliana, Red and Blue (forgot her name) go like" well this should be it, right?", then they leave and voila, Red's mom is a completely different person. With how Uliana was not a villain at all, I was fully expecting there to be a twist, and something at the dance still happening, with the villain being someone else no one expected but also kinda. But nope, nothing of the sort. Completely disapointed. 7: Actually won't say much about the songs. At first most of them through me off, cause they didn't sound like Descendants songs, except for like 1 or 2. But most of them grew on me when I heard them a second time. All in all, I would've been happier if they left some of that cgi budget for the actual story. The first 3 movies may have had crappy cgi, but at least the plot was good. I know they set it up for a continuation like they did the previous Descendants movies, but honestly, after all that, I just was not able to conjure up the slightest interest. Not sure if Dylan has said any of my points in the video, haven't watched it yet. If you've read this far, congrats cause I wouldn't have.
Omg I read all of this😭. But yeah fr, we didn't get to see castle coming, the plot was rushed, uliana was so irrelevant like who is uliana. And the fact that it ended with the mom becoming nice is just so underwhelming. Like, where is the twist, the consequences of changing the past??? Its like the output of time travel doesn't apply to this movie
@@AaliyahNaiga-w8z I did say Morgana either doesn't exist in the Descendant's universe or Ursula has 3 sisters. I'm going to say the former. They might have ignored all the sequels these movies had.
10:36 I mean... I go to an arts school and if our 80 year old principal started breaking it down during a school assembly it would be absolutely legendary because everyone loves him.
Yeah, I was waiting on the dance too !! Honestly, I thought there were not gonna succeed to "save" the Queen of Heart but that her daughter would told her a saying or something that would stick with her and allow her to rise above the prank and still keep her warm spirit. The moral wasn't : you have to be brave against adversity blabla, but instead : in order to be a good person your childhood has to be this perfect pink pearly thing with 0 disturbance. Plus, can we talk about the fact that in the first timeline Cinderella doesn't help her best friend because she rather go fiesta with some boy AND THAT'S THE BASE OF THEIR PERFECT LOVE !!!
Also the casting in DESCENDANTS is crazy. Brandy's Cindy is black, Prince Charming is Asian but apparently he's Half-White and Half-Black since the King is White, and Queen is Black. Then their children are weird too. Chad is white, and the daughter looks mixed.
@@briannam916 i know that's why i referenced that it's Brandy's Cinderella like the film. The parents weren't in this film but in the 1997 one too. i don't know if Dylan knows though
people’s theory to fix that is that Cinderella knows the struggle of growing up an orphan so she and prince charming adopted Chad! he turned out a spoiled prick so that backfired but the spirit was there lmao
20:45 the saying was shortened from “you get more bees with sugar than salt” or something like that. So like. You attract more of this thing that your trying to get by being sweet than rude (cause bees don’t like salt)
ALSO. There's a major plothole that's been irking me. They said the book casts a curse if it falls into the wrong hands, and we can see that Uliana and her friends got frozen. So who opened it in the original timeline???
I actually read somewhere that this movie was supposed to be a part one, but it was never advertised as one. Although that is quite a reason to not show the dance, it felt like a test shot and lazy writing. I really wish they showed that Ella was the one who did the prank, and that is what caused the fallout between Bridget and Ella. This movie had so much potential but they ruined it. Hoping they redeem themselves if they decide on a part two.
Dylan I just wanted to let you know I just recently stumbled across your channel and I am already obsessed. I love your content and your sense of humor. I also love that the way you react to movies is exactly how I react to movies and that’s why I have to watch movies alone cause my people get annoyed at my commentary 😂. So I just want to thank you for the laughs you’ve given me the past week or so cause I really needed it.
To base your entire plot around a prank that happened in the past, have your main characters GO to the past and not show the prank is crazy
Fr wtf was that
LITERALLY WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT!! And why did they make it seem like the prank was done by Cinderella, Prince Charming and their gang and that's why the red queen hated them but it was the other villains that were pranking her??? Supposedly Cinderella doesn't even go to the dance... make it make sense.
@kirstenbracale6879 @Recyclable89 Actually it could infact be Cinderalla, notice how the villains were unable to open the book, meaning that they couldn't have done the prank, meaning that it had to be someone else who did it, Cinderella
@@kumar_reena06 yeah thats what i thought while watching it! I was so confused when it ended all of a sudden without seeing the prank and the ella plottwist
I think its bc if they actually showed the dance it would spoil how in the next movie the dance causes time to be messed with (back to the future style or something)
Descendants 1: mommy issues
Descendants 2: boyfriend issues
Descendants 3: daddy issues
Descendants 4: mommy issues (again)
This might be the best comment I've seen for this entire franchise 🤣 and now I know why the 3rd movie is my favourite 😅🙈
More like my mommy’s issues
@@LenaGwsYou don't have to watch any of the movies that pass the 3rd one.
It always circles back
Descendants 5: girlfriend issues (they’re lesbians)
Hook literally suggests burning Bridget alive and Uliana is like…. Nah not bad enough let’s make a cupcake
Hades*
No bc the way her choices were put her to sleep for 100 years, drowning her or arson nd she made her a lil goblin for like an hour😭😭
Morgie was so excited to light Bridget on fire. Sir, it is literally not that serious. Uliana decided she wanted revenge, not a prison sentence. She's the common sense friend
lol
Hades said that hook said “make her walk the plank”
Dylan : 🕺🕺
Movie : "Call us Jaladdin🤪🙈💕✨🧚♀"
Dylan : 🧍♂
that was my favorite part lol
@@alejandrasantana8596Same 🤣
like why would they say that lmaoooo
@@xapokalypse its Disney XD
🤣😂🤣😂
“Call us jaladdin” no I’m calling the cops 😭
911 is on speed dial
No cause those are imposters
It wasn't that bad.
@@LittleBite- it’s bad
@@nez01 literally Jasmine and Aladdin would not accept
Let me fix the ending...
The villains get the book, and Red and Blue (Her name is Chloe, Dylan, keep up) go to the dance to keep an eye on things and try to interfere. Blue gets to see her parents fall in love. We as an audience get to see the wardrobe department pop off. Red gets more time with her mom. The villains give her mom the cursed cupcake, and even though Red is trying to warn her that it's a trick, the mom wants so bad to believe that all of her attempts to be friends is actually succeeding and if she doesn't accept the cupcake she'll hurt their feelings. So Red, in front of everyone and to save her mom's future, takes the cupcake from her and takes a bite to prove it's cursed. She becomes a hideous monster, like the cupcake is supposed to make her, and young fairy godmother turns her back. Theoretically this would work better with a minor extra scene or two with her and maybe some encouragement. The villains get in trouble with Merlin. Red's mom is moved by her willingness to take the cupcake rather than let her do it. Maybe there's even a line of her asking why, and Red saying it's "because I love you". The mom could point out that Red doesn't even know her, and Red could say, "but I want to". The dance ends happily, and the two go back to the future, but it isn't back to the principal's speech. It's a little before that, while everyone is arriving and mingling, and Red and Blue find their mothers talking and laughing because they stayed friends, and they're equally glad to see their daughters, wondering where they always go off to. Because if the moms stayed friends, Red and Blue would have grown up together. There's the Reprise, the warning that this isn't the end of the story and the end!
This would have been so much more satisfying, I think, and a bit more on brand for Disney.
ATEEE!!!!!!
They need to hire you bc this is so good!
u need to make ur own movie like right away
no bc this is what i fully thought was gonna happen and when the movie ended i was like wtf 😭
YES THANK YOU THEY NEED TO HIRE YOU CUZ I HATED THIS MOVIE
the ending was trash like you cant hype up this dance ALL movie even how Blues parents met and then just NOT GO. and IF the spell book was spelled to keep those that will use it for evil out by freezing them HOW DID they get their hands on it in the FIRST TIMELINE to curse Reds mom?!!!! makes no sense
china anne mcclain (uma) and cameron boyce (carlos) were very good friends in real life. there was a lot of skepticism about disney continuing the franchise without cameron, and china wanted to make sure proper respects were paid to him. so it makes sense that they'd do it first thing, to show new and old fans that they're not just going to disregard him, and instead will respect his memory.
i’m so glad they did that❤
Yes so beautiful, did they meet on grown ups or before tbh idk
his death still doesn't feel real man. Amd we didnt even know him on a personal level so i cant imagine how much friends and family miss him🩶
@@Angelacarolinax.grown ups
this movie was planned since before his death tho and he wanted it to be done, China did it in his honour and disney called her and his family first to see how to mention Carlos so everything would be respectful.
I am here PURELY for the Jaladdin reaction.
Fr
“call us jaladdin” 😭😭
too real
@@luna_3_31”ho it’s jaladdin”
"Ho it's jaladdin"🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
Honestly, this movie feels like an essay you started early but then were too lazy to finish, only remembered about it right before the deadline, and didn't really have time to finish it so you threw together the shortest end paragraph possible just for the sake of it being there.
Still liked it tho 🤣
Maybe there will be another movie where Uliana returns, and she isn't reformed like the other villains. Or maybe not just Uliana, but Red actually made the future worse and has to sacrifice her kind mom and her freedom by time traveling again, undoing her interference, and just end up fighting her mom until she surrenders her tyrannical power peacefully.
I like how they chose to have Ursula's younger sister as the lead villain in the movie when maleficent and hades were RIGHT THERE
And not even Morgana! Ursula already has a little sister, but they made up one just to keep Hades and Maleficent from showing up. Seeing them as weird teens falling in like with each other, setting up Mal existing, could've been hilarious
I think it's the same reason they chose not to have Ursula. It's cause having ursula could lead to red and cindy's kid channeling that hatred to Uma, so they chose a character that doesn't have any kids we know. Just a theory
@@camc1057 It would have been hilarious tho, If Red and Chloe met Mal in the next movie and were like: So, yeah, we saw your parents as teens and Mal is just: ?!?!?
@kaldurskipper6821 I think they chose to name her uliana because morgie was the son of Morgana from Camelot and they thought it would be confusing. Originally I had a problem with the change as well, because I love the little mermaid 2 so much that my daughter is named Melody after Ariel's daughter in that movie. But after I thought about it, it actually kinda made sense.
Literally! It made zero sense how a villains baby sister was the ringleader, instead of Maleficent the mistress of Evil and Hades who is basically the Disney equivalent of the devil. So weird how Hades and Maleficent weren’t running the school and being the main bullies
THREE DYLAN VIDEOS IN A WEEK? THIS IS GETTING CRAZY…FATHER IS NOT LETTING US STARVE
For real
We thank him and hope that he doesn’t go back into hibernation😂
FATHER IS PROVIDING
this is too good to be true like AM I DREAMING
@@rachelang8447 LITERALLY this is groundbreaking
i love how when young bridget was like "its Jasmine and Aladdin" he was ready to dance but as soon as they said "call us jaladdin" his facial emotions and expressions changed so dramatically.
My favourite plot hole is the Queen of Hearts randomly developing a British accent as she grows up
I like the idea of her turning evil and adopting the accent because she thinks it makes her scarier😭 but that wouldn't explain why she's still british at the end
She tried to be a typical british villain @cherryjammusic
Could have been she moved to a new environment soon after the prank, we don’t really know. But considering all the plot holes in descendants 1-3.
THE WAY I DIDNT EVEN REALISE THAT
STOPPPP this is too funnyy
Chloe: That's my DAD
Red: Oh 🤮
Dylan: OH 😏
Maddox Hatter is played by Leonard Nam, born in Argentina to South Korean parents before moving to Australia as a child and then the US. I think he’s trying to do a more British accent for the character but his natural accent does lean more Australian. So kinda explains why it feels like soo many accents in one.
Mr. Worldwide
I'm so surprised that he never brought up that young Bridget has a completely different accent than old Bridget
I imagine in some alternate universe Bridget was like “this prank is so traumatic I must reinvent myself 😤. It’s time to debut…the British accent”
@@geminiemeraldunicornOh no! Not the BRITISH ACCENT 🫣
I didn’t even realise.. 🧍♀️
bro this pissed me off sm lile HUH
it’s entirely plausible that she just learned to codeswitch to sound meaner bc of ppl taking advantage of her kindness and decided that one sounds more menacing my family r immigrants so I hear like 5 different accents from all of them
dylan getting mad at red for not taking an actual bite but it just reminded me of every actor ever saying food scenes were the worst bc they spend the whole day eating the same exact food til they get sick 😭
It’s more of HOW they play off the eating. He pointed out that we didn’t see the bite, whereas in most movies and shows for eating scenes, they’ve actually put foods in their mouths .
During the Superfragalistic scene in Mary Poppins they made a ton of the same food with different flavours so the kids eating during the song didn't get bored or nauseous :)
This why some actors keep spit buckets when they have to eat in scenes so they can spit something out when the director calls cut. Also why they tend to take smaller bites. I remember seeing an interview of Tom Cruise saying he had to eat so much cake when filming The Outsiders because he was taking big bites at first and then got so sick.
Yeah, like I saw an interview of Friday Night Dinner, a show that (in every like 30-40 min episode, has eating in it at some point, like a full roast dinner) had a guest on for one episode, and while everyone else was eating small vegetables to be able to do multiple takes much easier, the guest ate like a load of full potatoes, and eventually felt really sick by the end. Being an actor who has to eat in takes must be awful lmao
@@riddlussy3109 I remember this !!!
21:21 The way his facial expression completely changed when he hears it 💀
the way his smile DIES
I was so convinced they’re building it up for a reveal that it was Cinderella who did the prank?? She was the one the Queen had a personal issue with and she literally sings a song about getting her hands dirty. It would be a great twist if the prank didn’t happen not because the bullies were stopped but because Cinderella got grounded after the broken vase thing, therefore she didn’t attend the ball! I honestly believe they cut out the last portion of the script or something cause they didn’t have enough time. The third act makes absolutely no sense as it is.
I had the same thought while watching the movie because every time they showed Cinderella and Bridgette, and the latter talked about getting people to like her, Cinderella's facial reactions were suspicious. Like she didn't want Bridgette to befriend anyone because maybe that'd leave her alone since they were both outcasts? Or some other reason. But Cinderella was definitely off in the movie.
Exactly same thoughts! I was so sure it was Ella
im pretty sure it is ella and will be talked about it in the next movie
it would just make sense since she got grounded and wasnt at the dance since the evil people wasnt there to begin with bc of the spell in the book but then, how did she met prince chariming/got together with him? what was her intention? was she just jealous?
i think they left out the prom part for this specific reason but its a pretty poor choice to split it in two movies
heck, maybe just make a mini series for this wouldve been better and including some other locations and characters in it , working on the character development in general
That’s a horrible twist, why does everyone seem desperate for that.
That would be interesting but if Cinderella doesn’t go to the dance, wouldn’t she have never married Charming?
I never knew a week could have two movie commentary Mondays
OML, FRFR 😭😭😭💀
This is a movie commentary Monday, but the other one was a first and last. The two are very distinct, and are not to be confused 😂
@@LEGO_IndianaJones69420_was joking because on the bridgerton video he pretended it was a movie at the start
@@Dean_W1nchester. I forgot about that 😂
Dylan finally using his power for good
I can’t believe he didn’t bring up Chloe’s wig changing every second
The writing in this movie made me want to bash my head against a brick wall. Firstly, why was the Queen of Hearts named Bridget? Why not Rose (“We’re Painting the Roses Red”) or something like that? Her name should’ve had meaning.
Secondly, the whole thing with the prank was a joke. From the beginning, it made no sense that the bullies would’ve pulled the prank. Bridget was an absolute angel. There’s no way getting humiliated by bullies would’ve been enough to turn someone that kind into a mass murderer. That kind of mass transformation had to have been prompted by something personal. And besides, the bullies literally COULDN’T have pulled the prank if, as the movie itself pointed out, they couldn’t even USE THE BOOK that had the prank in it.
The only thing that would’ve made sense is if Cinderella had pulled the prank. What else would’ve broken up her and Bridget’s friendship? All the movie had to say was that, in a moment of extreme anger and exhaustion, Cinderella decided she wanted to free herself of her stepmother. So she got the spellbook, which she was able to use because she was a good person. But because she wasn’t magical-she wasn’t a fairy, she wasn’t a sorceress, etc.-and didn’t know what she was doing, the spell backfired and THAT resulted in Bridget’s humiliation. Bridget would’ve seen it as a personal betrayal by the one person she trusted most. Cinderella would’ve fallen all over herself, apologizing and trying to explain. But Bridget finally would’ve cracked.
It would’ve been such an interesting plot, and it actually could’ve explained, in part, why Cinderella was under her stepmother’s thumb for so long-she felt so bad about hurting her best friend that she was afraid to hurt anyone else, so she completely submitted to her stepmother. Disney has got to stop letting ChatGPT write their movies.
Bridge is a card game so her name makes sense to me but I totally agree with your other points
well they are clearly setting up for a sequel so that might come into play
That would have actually worked so well. Also it would add nuance to the characters and could have resulted in some interesting musical moments (like a heartbroken ballad or something)
ella (cinderella) did end up being like grounded kinda when chloe broke the vase sooo like that would've semi-stopped her from doing anything like that if she was the one who did it
I think that the movie would have been SO much better if it was Cinderella who did the prank. It would have been a trust between two best friends broken and explaining why Bridget was so mad at Cinderella.
dylan: i love this song!
“call us jaladdin! 💕🕺💃💅
dylan: 😟
Ben on the first movie: dancing = knee bending
Red 15:36 : dancing = aggressive elbow bending
Brandy and that guy reprising their roles as Cinderella and Prince Charming from their 90s version of Cinderella absolutely SHOCKED me! I loved that movie as a kid and never expected to see them play these characters again. I wish Dylan had known the lore, it would’ve been so much more fun for him. 😃
Exactly! Him skipping over that huge cultural throwback was a bummer. Not his fault if he didn't know but Brandy has always been my favorite Cinderella so I'm biased lol
YESSSS I LOVE BRANDY!!! AND THAT VERSION OF CINDERELLA!!
I screamed when I saw the 😂
Yesssssss I didn’t watch any of the trailers or promotion videos so when his scene came I GASPED I was so happy in that moment.
Love how it's Brandy and THAT GUY 😂. Poor Paolo almost no one knows his name😅
This is no hate i have just seen it happen a lot.
Even funnier is, if the book had the spell on it anyway how did the villans even end up doing the prank the first time if they where not even able to read the book
They didn't. I think the one who did the prank was cinderella or something and they for some reason saved that for the next movie. They were clearly hinting at their rivalry and its pretty disney channel to make the daughters fix the rivalry of their mothers.
Edit: I didn't actually watch the movie so thats just my speculation on what theyre going for from the little that I do know. The reason the prank didn't happen has got to do with something red and blue changed while interacting with the other characters.
there's gonna be a sequel, so a lot of plot points havent been answered yet & given this has time travel there will be consequences
@@daniella_otsuki that was what I thought, but the Queen says Ella was "off with her Prince Charming" - meaning she wasn't even there
@@daniella_otsuki Cinderella being the "real villain" would have been an amazing third-act reveal, but they literally did nothing. That's not the kind of thing you leave for another movie, it makes this one look like absolute nonsense
This confused me so much when I watched it! I thought the same thing cuz it seems so obvious that it shouldn't have changed anything if the spell was already there. I kind of thought Cinderella did the prank and they were gonna go back to the present to find out they didn't fix anything. Imagine my surprise when it was actually a success 😃
It's crazy to include hades on that villain group because then I remember that he's a literal god who prolly just shapechanged into a teenager to hang out with maleficient.
Honestly, that’s extremely on brand for how the Olympian Gods would fornicate with mortals. It would make perfect sense that he shapeshifted to be the most appealing he could be to her. I also like that they weren’t the ring leaders of the group of villains, they cared more about each other than that.
i’m surprised he didn’t mention the way cinderella’s daughters hair changed SO NOTICEABLY when they finally left the courtyard😭 WHO WAS IN CHARGE OF CONTINUITY IN THIS MOVIE
OH MY GOD THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 27:47 and 28:05 ITS LITERALLY NIGHT AND DAY😭😭
her hair was actually the same, if you know anything about how black hair works, curls are more defined and slightly looser when wet. But when the hair dries, shrinkage occurs and sometimes it can look shorter and obtain more volume. You need to keep in mind how long a scene, let alone the movie entirely, is shot. Obviously in between shots, her hair is gonna get dry from all the moving, running, and in the sun. They can only keep fixing it so much between each take because curling hair takes time and they have to account for the amount of sunlight they have left to film in that day (unless the shot/scene calls for it to be at night)
@@nunugirlswag109i’m actually black! i assumed with the way it was cut that she walked straight from the courtyard into the other room; their clothes weren’t wet or anything so i assumed there hadn’t been rain or anything else to make it get wet! i was also referring to the color of the wig, it went from one dimensional to like 4 different shades of blue between cuts
my original comment definitely wasn’t malicious in intent, but i get where ur coming from
@@nunugirlswag109 i also assumed they were each wigs which would give their teams more control over how and when the hair changes texture and length (forgot to say this in my first reply)
@@jsamuel3986 oh no, I’m sorry if my comment came off that way 😅 I wasn’t trying to make it seem like you were being rude or anything. I was just trying to educate because trust me, I was thinking the exact same thing when I first watched. But I watched a lot of Behind the Scenes and interviews and Chloe’s actress stated it was the same wig but the curls kept coming undone so the change in definition was noticeable between scenes lol. And yeah the actresses/characters themselves weren’t wet literally, I just meant the hair and makeup team obviously wet her hair to define and set the curls.
Now shading wise, idk if they put some sort of sheen that brightened the shade of blue at certain times. Can’t explain that one lol sorry again about the tone in my previous comment
22:21
Dylan: sees tentacles
Dylan: 🤩Fanboys🤩
Bridgett: “….Ursula’s baby sister”
Dylan: 🫥 so that’s not Ursula…?
Yeah I do not understand why they didn’t just have her be Ursula
@@maddied5825 i was confused about that too
Metrucula
@@loisaf0112 they would have to say that uma was the same age as red and Chole lol
@@HannahJones-yx1vuso mal and harry are the same age as them ????
They spent the majority of their budget on Rita Ora of all things 😭😭😭
“OFF WITH HIS…”
“DI-“
“HAT” I COULDNT 😭🙏
Said the idiot who is not an actress
dylans face change when it went "call us jaladin" took me OUT LMAOO
I love how Dylan wants the parents to die in the beginning. And stopping that is literally the plot of the movie.
Them not ensuring the prank didn't happen is especially crazy because one of the perpetrators is _Maleficent_ who famously doesn't have a great history when she feels wronged
Well nothing happened to Maleficent specifically so i dont think she would be bothered, especially when you see her and hades holding hands and walking at a leisurely pace while everyone is running after Uliana (I forgot most of the movie btw)
She's fine.
The fairy godmother having your favorite line after you roasted her so many times is ✨PEAK CONTENT✨ lol
What’s getting me is Dylan calling all the baked goods, muffins. Like he said a muffin with icing. Sir, it’s a cupcake…
Not many countries call them "cupcakes" and would call them Muffins
I have been trying to manifest pride and prejudice for so long I stopped breathing for a second when I saw it at the top of the list😭
Sameeee 😭😭😭❤❤❤
Don't talk about it he might not do it if we talk about it 😢
Literally my favorite movie!
YESSS
@@aishaarshadalam3412 love how well we know dylan, cause i saw a few movies that i've hoping he'd do for a while now and immediately thought "not gonna say anything tho, or he might not do it" 😂
the fact that i'm gonna be 20 in 6 months and dylan's been saying he's 20 since i was 16 is my roman empire
I love how Dylan just glossed over the fact that ELLA WAS OBVIOUSLY the one playing the prank-And how she DIED like HELLO I thought he would’ve LOVE the death
I hadn't heard the phrase "You get more with sugar than salt." However it does remind me of the saying "You catch more flies with honey than vinegar." I think that is what they are going for with the metaphor
It’s because they were talking about baking. You can’t really bake anything with salt, and basically every recipe needs sugar
@@yadhira.a971 salt in baking adds flavour I believe, so people do use it 😅
@@yadhira.a971 I’m not saying this to be rude, but that’s not the best metaphor 😂 even sweet things like cake need salt, and bread doesn’t need sugar but relies on salt, same with anything savoury. I see what they were going for but could’ve made it clearer haha
I got the metaphor. Good old Dylan can be very nit picky with metaphors 😂
I think it’s like you get more with being nice aka sugar then mean or bitter aka salt
"don't tell me balls and then not give me balls" -Dylan Is In Trouble, 2024
32:06 there is a fan theory why the Prank wasn't shown: Queen of Hearts seemed to be angry primarly at Cinderella and the Book should have frozen the Villains in the first place too. So the theory is the Cindy was the one to prank QoH. The Timeline still changed because thanks to Red and Blue she was grounded and probably couldn't attend the ball. Cindy is very persistent that the prank was harmless which would be true if she was the one to do it never actually trying to hurt her friend. QoH could have seen this as her first and only true friend also not actually being on her side and maybe using her to get for example a dress for the ball since Cindy is poor and QoH isn't. Anyway it wouldn't make sence that the Villains were the ones to prank her because their prank idea wouldn't have changed just because Red and Blue were there and they would have been frozen regardless.
The biggest plot hole is the spell on the book because if they didn't put it there, then it was already there and would have stopped the villains anyway so that COULDN'T have been the prank that made her evil....and therefore she must still be evil
Watch Disney try to fix this in the next movie by saying the VKs never opened the book and it fell in Cinderella’s hands instead. 100% the next movie is them explaining how Cinderella was the one who played the prank on Bridget and that’s why their relationship never recovered from that evening.
Was looking for this comment cuz WHAT?? Big ass plot hole
Thank you! Someone else caught that.
Can't believe Dylan never mentioned how Chole's hair changed every scene 😭😭
okk i was just waiting for it 😭
I can’t believe he didn’t know who Brandy was or Rita Ora 😂
what i didnt even notice that 😭 thats so lame
And it was so distracting!!!!
he was completely clueless about how party city those wigs were
“Ursula’s daughter. What’s her name? Oh uRmA”
Chloe’s hair color changing every other shot either was like supposed to be a thing or supposed to drive me freaking insane I swear. Red looks just like a red headed Evie
Deal with it
Before watching the movie I thought red was related to evie XD
Another gripe I have with this story is how Chloe was so shocked with how her mother lived.
Isn't it public knowledge that her Mom was poor and mistreated before she met and married the prince?
I understand getting shocked at how bad it probably was. But the way Chloe reacted was more like she was shocked it was even happening, like she had no idea that was her mother's backstory.
Girl, why are you surprised your mother is doing all the cleaning alone? Did you think the wicked stepmother and stepsisters would help?
I thought this too! I was like…you would think their “perfect” little family would have talked about their parents’ upbringing’s? Even slightly???
Every fairytale is common knowledge in Descendants. That doesn’t make sense
@@nobody42071 yes! In the first movie, Mal even mentioned Cinderella and the carriage, bippity-boppity-boo thing cause the plot was centered around FGM's wand.
It's not a secret.
no but what frustrates me about the third act is that there is obvious foreshadowing that it was in fact Cinderella did the prank, also making it much more hurtful, but the entire third act is focused on the villains. Like the entire plot of them breaking in the principals office wasn't neccesary since the villains would have been stunnend by the book regardless of their presence ( just like that inidiana jones movie). What annoys me even more is that in the second movie the reason for the prank not having happend will definitely be cinderella being grounded, but there is already a plot hole for that. Siince after cinderella got grounded, the looked in the looking glass and everything still was horrible in the future so even that plot twist isn't executed well.
Like they are probably going to show the prank and castlecoming in the next movie, at least i hope so, but the pacing is off and the plot twist already has plot holes without a proper reveal yet.
Cinderella didn’t do the prank. Remember she was off with the prince. That’s why Red’s mom was at her - Cinderella left her alone to dance with the Prince and that’s when she got pranked.
When they started "rapping" I thought to myself "and I blame Lin Manuel Miranda for this" and soon after you mentioned Hamilton, the brain connection
Boy if he had made "The Proposal" video he would have entered the Deadpool and Wolverine algorithm
LITERALLY
IKR come on Dylan quick quick!!!!!
I can lightly tap the fourth wall too, The Proposal.
Maddox Hatter is not the Mad Hatter, he is his son.
the way dylan has literally remained incapable of remembering and saying uma’s name correctly over the years w these reactions WHEN SHE LITERALLY HAS A SONG CALLED “WHAT’S MY NAME”
What if the queen of hearts remained ugly because the spell never wore off. She could've been depicted as a totalitarian figure in wonderland, wearing a mask to hide her face. And to give a bigger impact to the ending of the movie and show the importance of this prank that ruined Bridget's life and turned her evil; the villains got to do the prank on her, and using her crazy knowledge on auradon showcased at the beginning of the movie, Cinderella's daughter and red found her and brought her to the magic lake from descendants 1 and 3 where the water is supposed to break spells. They could have had a heartfelt conversation before going back to their own time. This conversation could have also helped heal red's relation with her mother.
+ For the queen of hearts' mask, I imagined a venetian mask, like the ones they use for the Venise carnival. With hearts, cards(the back) and chess board patterns to match the wonderland aesthetic.
I thought the mask would help give a more distressing appearance to the queen in order to bring fear to her people. The idea to make her faceless for the beginning of the movie reminded me of "1984" by George Orwell with Big Brother. Mirroring the all-knowing and all-seeing totalitarian figure.
When I talk about hiding her face, I mean that since the bal, no one has ever seen her face again(not even her daughter). I was thinking that right after the prank was made, she fled back home to Wonderland and met with the mad hatter, who maybe was around the same age and was her friend before she went to merlin's academy (he was an apprentice to the royal hatter and therefore spent a lot of time in the castle with her since she was homeschooled). Given that he was the one who created the magic time-traveling clock in the movie and that his job is to create hats for the queen, he could have made her a mask.
For the beginning of the movie, the part when the queen is putting all of auradon under siege, I would have let the fairy godmother cast her spell to disarm the queen, except that she would have missed and hit the mask, making it fall and revealing her face to some people in the court(except Red, Cinderella's daughter and us, the audience, in order to emphasize the reveal at the bal, giving the girls a better understanding of the queen's character) before she rushes to put it back on. Bringing up her trauma, this would infuriate her, ordering the fairy's execution. Cinderella then steps in, trying to calm Bridget. So the queen, jealous of her ex best friend's life and going insane due to the humiliation she faced again after so many years, orders Cinderella's execution as well.
I changed this part because I didn't like that Red made that decision out of pride because her ego took a hit from Cinderella
Someone make this commentor a writer!!!
Write that fanfic. NOW. I want this fix-it fic
@LunaWitcherArt I am sorry to disappoint, but I am no writer...😕 I just shared an idea that I had in my comment. I have no writing skills whatsoever and would also be unable to create convincing dialogs ...😔
However, I am open to anyone who wants to use this idea and include it in their fanfic!
sort of like Once upon a time's queen of hearts then? I remember she wore a mask in the beginning
@monikaaaax3 I don't know. I haven't watched it, but it's a crazy coincidence!
If in Once upon a time she wears a mask for the same reason, then I maybe get why they didn't do that in the movie, it wouldve been too close to Once upon a time (although I also think that they went a little easy on the writing for the script).
The first "Alice in Wonderland" that I watched was Tim Burton's, so the idea to disfigure her came from there. Her actions would've been justified by the hatred, resentment, and loneliness that built up through the years.
I will definitely have to check out once upon a time !
20:47 the funny thing is that as a designer I know exactly what that skirt is based on - Teresa Helbig Spring/Summer Madrid 2018 - and I just KNOW that someone on the team saw that skirt on Pinterest, texted it to the costume department and went like “Heeey so I want this but in pink and with some unnecessary stuff added on top. You feel me? Cool”
oh lmfao 😭 it's still cute and ideal and fitting for Bridget 😭
@ oh it definitely is. I actually think the costume department did really well when it comes to her looks overall. Still it just got a chuckle out of me
@claracatlady9844 😭 oh I thought u meant it as a bad thing. Like the thought process from ur jokey comment bc usually the costume department fumble with the outfit
And remember Cinderella gets grounded after the vase broke. So I wanted to see how She would have made it to the ball especially since that’s the place where they “fell in love”.
I figured she probably stuck out like in the fairytale. Also, is it so tough to let a villain be a villain? Like you are telling me the psychopath who kills people just for ordering the wrong roses was like that because she humiliated at a ball???
“CALL US JALLDIN” IM LAUGHING CRYING
Dylan : plays it 3 times to 💀💀 himself
He secretly loves it 😂😂 had to play it 3 times
Brandy and Paolo Montalban reuniting as Cinderella and her prince charming is wild! Their Cinderella movie came out in 1997!
the GOOD: the production and the budget. looks 10x better than the other 3 movies combined. Uma's back!!
the BAD: literally everything else. the music. the outfits (except for red). the way cindy's daughter's hair keeps getting longer and shorter every scene? the pacing of the movie. JALADDIN.
For sure, Red definitely had the best outfit in the movie, seconded by her mother. I love a good red and black color scheme! And I wish we'd gotten to spend more time in Wonderland because it looked *so* cool; the sets were giving Moulin Rouge! The Musical vibes in the best way. ♥
THATS WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY! It’s like her hair gets dry and then wet, or more gel, it bothered me so much 😭like that’s not how curly hair works 😭
I didn’t have a issue with the outfits. I like 5 of their songs not all but I know maybe the new take on this movie isn’t for everyone
AGREED
her hair changes textures every scene. it’s tight curls to waves to big curls to tight curls. it’s pissed me off so much lol
the fact that ursula’s daughter had like 10 mins of screen time 💀💀
Baby sister*, ans so useless of a character honestly. Who wrote the script???
They really had no idea what to do with this movie
@@hunterwolfgun4967pretty sure they’re talking about Uma, which is Ursula’s daughter
I remember when a TH-camr I follow said that they made a whole announcement of China McClain coming back…all just for her to barely be in it 😭
China McClain said she was just in the movie as way to connect it to the other movies and sort of smooth the transition
21:25 never seen a smile drop so fast 😭😭
decendants: whats my name? whats my name?
dylan: URMAA!!!
dylans reaction every time the call is jaladdin song replayed was so real cause what were they thinking writing that 💀
I'm sayingg
I'm convinced they made it cringe intentionally
Also weird because Aladdin is a theif and jasmine is a princess so how did they even get together while in Merlin academy, ik they change the stories around a lil but damn 😭
it's like the jarlos necklace in d3 lol
wE gOtTa MaKe FaIrYtAlE cHaRaCtErS fIt iN wItH oUr GeNeRaTiOn
I know this is so dumb to say in comments . But dylan you truly are my comfort youtuber. If I've had a bad day or just feel like dump I click on your channel and binge watch . You make my days better with your laughter.
The thing that I hate the most about Descendants, and this movie specifically, is that theyre not even TRYING to pretend like they arent just straight up copying Ever After High anymore.
I saw the trailer for this, and my first thought was instantly " ofc they chose Wonderland, because EAH did Wonderland too"
And Chloe Charming is literally just a worse version of Darling Charming, down to her personality and her color palette. AND Darling was the White Knight IN EAH's Wonderland, so OF COURSE Chloe is going to be in the Descendants movie about Wonderland.
It would have actually made so much more sense if they went to Neverland or Atlantica because Uma is the daughter of Ursula from TLM but shes ALSO a pirate and friends with Harry Hook. They could have done a story with the daughter of Ariel, or Wendy, but nope, they chose WONDERLAND because EAH did it too.
(This is not a dunk on the cast btw, I know they're not responsible for the script)
Edit cause I just remembered: Castlecoming is only here because they couldn't do Thronecoming, you know, like EAH? Thronecoming is a much better pun than Castlecoming, but nah they just HAD to include because EAH did it too
29:21 they also ripped off “Hex Yeah” from EAH!
Was EAH owned by disney?
@@freshyeetedtrash4386Nope, Mattel. They where made as dolls, the show was an add on to sell them.
YES YES YES fk Disney for " "suing" eah,they were just threatened with how good everything about eah was and how much attention it was getting.
YO STOP COMPLAINING
Honestly, young fairy godmother might be my favorite too, she is casted perfectly and her line in that song is simply so cute, I've listened to it too many times
Same
Samee
16:01 “Stop why are you sing-talking?”
Me: rapping??
“Unless you travel back to 1776 there’s only one musical that can get away with it”
Me: HAMILTONNN
Tha jaladdin part made me laugh so hard because Dylan was so ready to start dancing and just instantly got disappointed 😂
"You didn't think that was the end of the story, did you?" I SURE HOPED IT WAS
20:07 The reasons that actors/actresses very rarely actually eat in movies and shows is because very often you have to do tons and tons of takes sometimes from different angles, so you might be eating that cupcake 20-50 times. So actors will either pretend to eat it, or take a real bite and then spit it out afterward.
Yeh they should’ve had a cupcake with a bite already in it so it looks like she bit it .
No way they did more than 5 takes of this scene
The way he was enjoying the song with Bridget and then he immediately got upset with the Jaladdin part was so funny omg
'Enchanted' is such a fun time. One of Disney's best live-action/parody movies. 🧡
Fun fact:
Both Cinderella and Prince Charming are actually reprising cameos roles from a Cinderella film from 1997
😯😃
*22:17**-**22:23*
WHAT WAS THAT ULIANA DYLAN FIST POSE?!
🤣😭
@@nloubriel2336bros on the edge of his seat
HOW STUPID DO YOU THINK WE ARE
What's even funnier in the "you get more out of sugar than salt" line is that even sweets use salt because it brings out the oomph of the sweetness XD
Y’all I think I fever dreamed Dylan watching Big Hero 6 😭😭😭
I think everyone who watched this was disappointed by the final act... because you could barely call it a final act. It's as you said, the movie was building up to Castlecoming A LOT and it makes no sense to not show it for that reason and for the kids' motives. Why wouldn't they make sure nothing else bad happens to Red's mom as a result of changing the prank? How did the villain kids even get the book in the original timeline if it was always spelled? And why would this big change ONLY effect the Queen of Hearts' personality and nothing else (like the existence of Red, her closeness to future Cinderella, etc.) when time travel stuff typically works with "butterfly effect" rules?
This movie was good, until the end. There was no lesson learned, just 'oh she's good now'. Plus, if the book was always cursed, how was it ever opened by Uliana originally?
STOP COMPLAINING
@@Jomama-k7t chill out, it’s called criticism and the comment was pretty truthful.
I have a theory that this is exact comment is the premise for another descendants movie like a follow up to this one, I think Cinderella is the bad one now so they will have to go back and fix what they did.
@@Jomama-k7t Relax, they're right
I’ve watched Dylan so much, I can now sniff out when he’s making an ad transition
Same. I was like 'Ope here it comes
Dylan is the only person whose ads I will fully sit through because they are SO entertaining 😂😂😂
20:40 the real saying is smthn like "you catch more flies with honey than vinegar" which makes wayyy more practical sense lol
Dylan thinking this movie had budget when there’s clear green screen wide shots, the wigs go crazy, and there’s a literal sentence that’s just dubbed over, is so funny 😂
which sentence😭😭😭
@@laylas3740 it’s that one scene when they’re looking at the castle coming poster and reds like , this must be where it happens, and then Chloe says something along the lines of “so how do we stop that” but she did NOT in fact actually say that 😆
hey dylan, the complete saying at 20:39 is probably referring to this: 'you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar' except they changed it to sugar and salt. but it's supposed to be this.
22:06 I NEED SOMEONE TO MAKE A CLIP OF THIS LMAO
"Red: okay!
Chloe: thats my dad..
Red: oh..-
DYLAN: oh!"
My problems with this movie:
1: Mad hatter's kid sets an ominous foreshadow about how you shouldn't mess with time, Red messes with time and nothing bad happens, everything goes her way.
2: How Red queen's past made her Red queen. So not justified. She literally became the red "off with your head" queen and you're telling me it's because she turned old in a dance? With her bubbly and forgiving (doormat) personality? Yeah, no.
3: The whole thing about descendants is giving second chances, Uma literally talks about it in the beginning. But what happens in this movie is that Red and cindy's kid just entirely change the red queen's personality, essentialy manipulating and crafting her to be a whole different person. Seeing her in the end was really weird. I mean, a person is made up of their experiences, good and bad. You enjoy they good and WORK THROUGH the bad. Erasing those experiences shifts a person's whole history, especially a core memory like that. Isn't that essentially killing someone, if you kill off the memories that made them them?
4: And what kind of lesson is that? Hey kids, if someone you know is "bad", has a bad attitude or had something happen to them, don't talk things out, don't try to reconcile them with whoever was involved. Instead, do whatever you can to completely manipulate them into becoming someone else. Second chances? Why give a second chance when you can just pretend whatever happened didn't happen?
5: Ursula's baby sister. Uliana, or however you say her name. What a let down. Every descendants movie, we've had good villains. When Uma came in on 2 and 3, you would think "damn she's gonna give Mal a hard time". But Uliana? She goes singing "the scariest things are scared of me" like no, they're scared of your sister, you're just a spoiled brat playing house. Then she goes on a whole song about revenge and how she's oh so bad and it's gonna be perfect. And her genius idea, get this, bake a cupcake and turn Bridget ugly (temporarily, even). Oh my, lock her up, how evil. I mean, seriously. I could deal with it if the real villain would be trauma, like Encanto, where Red would actually have to talk with her mom and figure shit out and help her, but noooo.
5: Castlecoming. They talk about it so many times and we never actually get to experience it?
6: The way they fixed things is so rushed. After they got the book from Uliana, Red and Blue (forgot her name) go like" well this should be it, right?", then they leave and voila, Red's mom is a completely different person. With how Uliana was not a villain at all, I was fully expecting there to be a twist, and something at the dance still happening, with the villain being someone else no one expected but also kinda. But nope, nothing of the sort. Completely disapointed.
7: Actually won't say much about the songs. At first most of them through me off, cause they didn't sound like Descendants songs, except for like 1 or 2. But most of them grew on me when I heard them a second time.
All in all, I would've been happier if they left some of that cgi budget for the actual story. The first 3 movies may have had crappy cgi, but at least the plot was good.
I know they set it up for a continuation like they did the previous Descendants movies, but honestly, after all that, I just was not able to conjure up the slightest interest.
Not sure if Dylan has said any of my points in the video, haven't watched it yet.
If you've read this far, congrats cause I wouldn't have.
They should have left it with 3, tbh.
Omg I read all of this😭. But yeah fr, we didn't get to see castle coming, the plot was rushed, uliana was so irrelevant like who is uliana. And the fact that it ended with the mom becoming nice is just so underwhelming. Like, where is the twist, the consequences of changing the past??? Its like the output of time travel doesn't apply to this movie
Little Mermaid 2 introduced Morgana as Ursula's sister.
So either she doesn't exist anymore or Ursula has 2 sisters...
@@EternalStorm796so if ursulas sister is morgana...who's uliana
@@AaliyahNaiga-w8z I did say Morgana either doesn't exist in the Descendant's universe or Ursula has 3 sisters. I'm going to say the former. They might have ignored all the sequels these movies had.
The instant drop of Dylan’s smile hearing Jaladdin will never stop being funny.
10:36 I mean... I go to an arts school and if our 80 year old principal started breaking it down during a school assembly it would be absolutely legendary because everyone loves him.
The title is so accurate 😭😭like the plot was all over the place but the music had me moving fr
Seriously the music was bopping but the plot was mehhh and the ending like huhhh it was so short 😂
@@Nightbat1321 100% the second movie better be satisfying 😅
@jenjoestar. seriously, it better be 🤣
Yeah, I was waiting on the dance too !!
Honestly, I thought there were not gonna succeed to "save" the Queen of Heart but that her daughter would told her a saying or something that would stick with her and allow her to rise above the prank and still keep her warm spirit. The moral wasn't : you have to be brave against adversity blabla, but instead : in order to be a good person your childhood has to be this perfect pink pearly thing with 0 disturbance. Plus, can we talk about the fact that in the first timeline Cinderella doesn't help her best friend because she rather go fiesta with some boy AND THAT'S THE BASE OF THEIR PERFECT LOVE !!!
Also the casting in DESCENDANTS is crazy. Brandy's Cindy is black, Prince Charming is Asian but apparently he's Half-White and Half-Black since the King is White, and Queen is Black. Then their children are weird too. Chad is white, and the daughter looks mixed.
It's in the spirit of the 1997 Cinderella lol
@@briannam916 i know that's why i referenced that it's Brandy's Cinderella like the film. The parents weren't in this film but in the 1997 one too. i don't know if Dylan knows though
chad aka our blasain king /hj
It's not that deep 🤨
people’s theory to fix that is that Cinderella knows the struggle of growing up an orphan so she and prince charming adopted Chad! he turned out a spoiled prick so that backfired but the spirit was there lmao
20:45 the saying was shortened from “you get more bees with sugar than salt” or something like that. So like. You attract more of this thing that your trying to get by being sweet than rude (cause bees don’t like salt)
I've always heard it as "you attract more bees with honey than vinegar."
@@malanenix4033oh that’s a good one
@@queenbee3561 Coming from the Queen Bee, that's a very high compliment! 😉
OHHH not me thinking it was about yeast lol
Bees?? I've always heard "you catch more _flies_ with honey than vinegar"...
ALSO. There's a major plothole that's been irking me. They said the book casts a curse if it falls into the wrong hands, and we can see that Uliana and her friends got frozen. So who opened it in the original timeline???
3:05 it’s implied that he passed in the royal wedding short movie but to my knowledge i don’t think it was ever explained
Guess they had to explain it somehow since cameron boyce died and can’t be in the movie.
the “jaladdin” part has become a big meme it’s really funny
I’ve replayed the “call us Jaladdin” part so much that it sounds so catchy now🤣🤣 31:15
Dylan's never-ending beef with the Disney space bar button is highly relatable. It's even annoying me for years
I actually read somewhere that this movie was supposed to be a part one, but it was never advertised as one. Although that is quite a reason to not show the dance, it felt like a test shot and lazy writing. I really wish they showed that Ella was the one who did the prank, and that is what caused the fallout between Bridget and Ella. This movie had so much potential but they ruined it. Hoping they redeem themselves if they decide on a part two.
15:20 "Give me the fucking watch or you are getting enslaved" I SWEAR my ears listen to certain things and i can't control them
i love the subtitles for the jaladdin moment
"call us gelatin"
@somethingawesome1311😂
mine is “call us gadin”
11:50 "it was a stupid prank" IT'S JUST A PRANK, HAN
OMG when I firstly watched the movie, the same thing came to my mind 😂
Until Dawn reference omgggg
I was waiting for this reaction!
Dylan I just wanted to let you know I just recently stumbled across your channel and I am already obsessed. I love your content and your sense of humor. I also love that the way you react to movies is exactly how I react to movies and that’s why I have to watch movies alone cause my people get annoyed at my commentary 😂. So I just want to thank you for the laughs you’ve given me the past week or so cause I really needed it.
Omg😭 I’m so bad at checking my emails i just read one saying i won a prize but im pretty sure its to late to reply for it
Dylan's ways of sneaking in sponsorships SERIOUSLY needs to be studied. Its a skill.
10:30 dylan: were the first ones as musical as this one?
song: is a reprise from the second movie