21:21 My own reaction to seeing SaffronOlive is approximately the same reaction I have when I see a happy Golden Retriever. Pretty much the exact opposite of fear.
Greenshell has been such an impressive card for me. I love it in Golgari Lands especially. It is a cool card to reanimate with Coiling Rebirth. Just a cool card all around.
I ran against this last night, not hours after you posted it and without having seen the video myself and it was a fun deck to battle. I was on Simulacrum and ended up melding Urza Planeswalker and exiling both their Fecund Greenshells after a timely Get Lost for their Elesh Norn. Fun deck.
This card is absolutely great. I put a couple in my Squirrel deck, mostly as a wall, but once I realized it's synergy with a squirrel mill deck and Carmelia, I was very pleasantly surprised.
It’s funny you made a green white deck when you saw this turtle. I made green black because I saw that landfall lizard and immediately thought about using the effect to trigger the landfalls. I run sheoldred too. My deck’s funny combo is to sack all my lands with pitiless carnage and use aftermath analyst or the new mythic 6 drop to get the lands back from the graveyard.its value city. Your idea is great too. Curious to watch your games though.
I wish greenshell gave that ability to creatures instead of being attached to it, then we could make a shell that uses delney instead of elesh norn since most cards in the greenshell shell have power 2 or less
Seth, this deck looks like the kind of Non-black midrange party ive been looking for. and funnily enough I already ahd part of the shell built from my Elesh Norn Festival deck, Greenshell seems like a good replacement for Festival. great content as always friend
So I think I know the reason (besides what the art shows) why greenshell has reach. It's typing as an elemental makes me believe that it's a calamity beast, so it's probably large enough to knock down the smaller creatures of Bloomburrow.
Idk if I'd say it's full calamity beats since Lumra is the green one for the plane but it's definitely big enough to swat the smaller creatures for sure
elesh norn mother of machines is one of my absolute favorite creatures to play right now. I have her in a white weenie deck in historic, and you would be shocked how many people just scoop the game after she resolves
I feel like half the time these decks work as well as they do because of the person playing them. Makes me happy that mindlessly playing the top meta decks does not just guarantee free wins.
I think a Dopplegang would probably be TOO overkill, no haste creatures, and its really likely that Doppleganging for even a smallish number would empty the deck if you targeted the Turtle, demanding a Do or Die turn
1:01:05 Atraxa, Grand Unifier gets Surveiled into graveyard on turn 1. Seth: “hmmm what is our opponent playing? Rakdos aggro? Fling? A Grixis Crim deck?” This is worse than Dora the Explorer. “It’s Reanimator! Seth! Look at the graveyard! It’s Reanimator!”
OMG, Seth (possibly) trying to punt at 1:00:04 when he has lethal with Mockingbird. 😅 Fortunately opponent scooped, but was Seth really going to copy the Entrancer for the lethal? We'll never know.
When Fecund Greenshell shoots flowers out of his back, Seth makes a video about it. When I do it, I get "sent to a place where I can get the help I need." It's not fair
Seth, have you seen the deck with burn Bright/Mastercraft raptor? I thought it was a pretty hilarious fling deck. Use cards like I'll timed explosion, craft to build a 26 or so power raptor then fling using cards like burn bright or that backup vampire!
The pure simic version with outlaw stitchers and far scarier green cards that spiral out of control because of railway breakers and bonny paul might work a lot better. But then again, it's not panharmonican of course, heh.
I think the bat duo card that gains life on etc would really work well in this deck. It’s a flying blocker early on, and it gives you much needed healing that pairs with the rest of your deck. It has higher toughness than power as a 1/2, and gets its life gain trigger doubled by elish norn. I know it’s a common, but it bits the theme of your deck quite well. Also I noticed you weren’t really ever using the clue tokens from novice inspector. Why not replace that? I feel like your biggest weakness with this deck is your inability to heal. Healing on etb sounds like the perfect solution. Once you get your turtle buffs your bio becomes a flying threat too. Consider it maybe?
I think the reason the guy scooped in game 2 is because he was paired super far up. He was only in platinum 3 and the game matched him with someone in mythic
"Not sure why it has reach" There's quite a few bloomburrow elementals that have reach quaketusk boar, fecund greenshell, galewind moose, and lumra, bellow of the woods, not sure why any of them do to be honest.
@@niklasbauer7026 Bloomburrow also has a lot of fliers, since it has a lot of birds and bats. Which if you look at it, the fliers this set are mostly in blue/white/black. While the creatures with reach I mentioned are all green/red. Looks like they wanted to make sure fliers aren't free in set constructed/draft
For once Seth got the pronunciation right and I was wrong. I always thought fecund was pronounced fee-kund, but it's actually pronounced fuh-kund. Good job Seth.
I have built a sandstorm harbinger deck!!! It's kinds broken. See what you can do. White blue green. Featuring ▪︎Risen reef ▪︎Glasspool mimics ▪︎Panharmonicon ▪︎eleshnorn and doppelgang. If interested I would submit whole deck list. I built it for a challenge laid down by my friend but I think it's good. Can you break it. Love the channel
You say mice are much tamer.... you should try my bant blind mice deck. It uses doppelgang so I'm sure you'd like it, plus gaining absurd amounts of life each turn gets hilarious against aggro
I wonder if that one guy scooped when he saw your name because they wanted to play against the metagame and seeing your name means a good chance of playing against randomness instead. Does that count as your username being scary? :D
@@SlimViMa makes sense. But I did just look this up on Scryfall, the only time in rules text anything "leaves" is from the battlefield. I could be missing wording.
Something that bugs me about the current way Magic's formats are run is that all of the neat draft synergies in each set are kinda dead in the water. You only get to draft a set for a month or two before the next one comes out, there isn't a block-level constructed format anymore, Standard rotating more slowly means that it's harder for new decks to compete against the larger card pool...
Yeah, sadly. I've been having moderate success with raccoons in unranked, but in ranked, plat is full of too much oppressive monoblack decks, which it struggles against with all the early removal and discard. But that could also be just playing bo1 because I'm not experienced or confident enough to make a good bo3 deck. And I'm already struggling with wildcards. Funnily and vaguely related to this video, the raccoon deck I built uses roaming thrones as a panharmonicon for expend mechanics and for doubling up on innkeeper's wards. The amount of people that try to use removal on Muerra while it has 2 ward 1s, thinking they only have to pay 2, then get hit with 6 ward 1 triggers on the stack instead, then scoop right after. It's pretty funny.
It sometimes matters because Greenshell puts the lands into play tapped. If we haven't made a land drop yet sometimes it's better to decline so we can play the land untapped and use the mana on something.
Current number of lands over the number needed for the effect (10). Cards that have an effect based on the number of something such as lands in play or card types in graveyard show how far they are to their target.
Hey, if I were to get a mat from the store, could you sign it ?? I really want to have a singed mat. It would hold a special place in my heart. ( he might not see this)😔
Yeah! There's an option for that. The shipping costs a bit more because Richard has to ship the playmat to me to sign and then I ship it on to you, but otherwise it's super easy!
@@MTGGoldfish That makes sense. I've been surprised, with two panharmonicons in standard, that we haven't seen more people building around a full playset of each, but, 5 mana is a rough place to take a turn off just to set up down the road, especially with as fast as some standard decks are right now. It might be worth a couple sideboard slots against removal heavy decks that can't deal with the enchantment as well?
@@jaredwonnacott9732 Honestly if standard didn't get expanded, this set would've been perfect for roaming throne. The set feels like it wants you to play a specific creature type. Roaming throne doubles all their triggers. But yeah, with 3 year standard, like Seth said, the top decks are already existing archetypes that got and lost a few toys to play with.
I loved when Seth said "it's panharmonicking time"
Ya I loved when he panharmoniconed all over his opponents
And panharmonicked all around the place
@@AesirOdinn PanharmoniMOMed.
Mockingbird is the shit I got my play-set super earily hell I pulled 3 at pre-release
That doorkeeper thrull + Gix in Game 2 really ended Seth’s desire to play it out. Loses his etb’s and has to watch his opponent draw cards.
That was brutal.
so relatable, id scoop there too
21:21 My own reaction to seeing SaffronOlive is approximately the same reaction I have when I see a happy Golden Retriever. Pretty much the exact opposite of fear.
Greenshell is literally shooting birds out of the sky in the art work, why wouldn't it have Reach?
Bullet seed is super effective
It does have reach
@@patatop850 the comment is in response to seth asking why it has reach
@@patatop850 Yes. And Seth was asking why it had it.
Half the cards with a bow on it don't have reach.
@59:43 "Main Phase crew clacking"
I don't think I have laughed harder at anything Seth has ever said before.
So glad someone mentored it too. So hilarious. We love you Seth never change
"crew clacking" is what skeleton pirates call teambuilding
@@krzuker fuck that's pretty good
Greenshell looks like the fun, fair version of Nadu. I love it!
Greenshell is the nadu i invite to my birthday dinner
Not now, new panharmonicon video just dropped
Seth playing Panharmonicon-like decks always give me the good vibes. 🤣
Greenshell has been such an impressive card for me. I love it in Golgari Lands especially. It is a cool card to reanimate with Coiling Rebirth. Just a cool card all around.
I ran against this last night, not hours after you posted it and without having seen the video myself and it was a fun deck to battle. I was on Simulacrum and ended up melding Urza Planeswalker and exiling both their Fecund Greenshells after a timely Get Lost for their Elesh Norn. Fun deck.
That first game was AMAZING.
Tried to make this kind of thing after the pre release but more agro and it just didn't work too well. Its so good to see this working
This card is absolutely great. I put a couple in my Squirrel deck, mostly as a wall, but once I realized it's synergy with a squirrel mill deck and Carmelia, I was very pleasantly surprised.
It’s funny you made a green white deck when you saw this turtle. I made green black because I saw that landfall lizard and immediately thought about using the effect to trigger the landfalls. I run sheoldred too. My deck’s funny combo is to sack all my lands with pitiless carnage and use aftermath analyst or the new mythic 6 drop to get the lands back from the graveyard.its value city. Your idea is great too. Curious to watch your games though.
Oh that’s a really fun combo though. “We’ve got scapeshift at home/in standard” strategy lol
35:30 it didnt matter obviously but you should usually copy the dreamdew entrancer with flying, especially since they had no cards in hand to interact
BTW, fecund greatshel will trigger for eldrazi spawn. not sure that matters for standard, but sounds super fun with kozilek's command...
40:05 The Heartfire hero still had a stun counter on it. It would have still been tapped. I believe the better play was locking down the manifold.
I was screaming at the screen at that
I wish greenshell gave that ability to creatures instead of being attached to it, then we could make a shell that uses delney instead of elesh norn since most cards in the greenshell shell have power 2 or less
Season of Weaving is good with the turtle. Copies it twice giving you a minimum of 5 turtle triggers, and draws a card on curve.
"Damn, I don't even have double blue mana... ... okay, now let's mill this blue source..."
Seth, this deck looks like the kind of Non-black midrange party ive been looking for. and funnily enough I already ahd part of the shell built from my Elesh Norn Festival deck, Greenshell seems like a good replacement for Festival. great content as always friend
So I think I know the reason (besides what the art shows) why greenshell has reach. It's typing as an elemental makes me believe that it's a calamity beast, so it's probably large enough to knock down the smaller creatures of Bloomburrow.
Idk if I'd say it's full calamity beats since Lumra is the green one for the plane but it's definitely big enough to swat the smaller creatures for sure
Meanwhile Eldrazi Titans: "I no care about small bird"
@@syrelian15 flying squirrels on the other hand….
The guy saw your name in the insta-win game & feared what you might be brewing.
"I ain't getting housed by jank for the world to see" - That Guy
Or he left because he's just a Timmy in Platinum getting matched up against a top 500 Mythic player.
This deck looks like a wild ride and I love it
elesh norn mother of machines is one of my absolute favorite creatures to play right now. I have her in a white weenie deck in historic, and you would be shocked how many people just scoop the game after she resolves
Oh it's got those seed pods which you're not supposed to go near because they explode to send the seed flying as far away as possible from the parent.
fecund greenshell is basically nadu at home lol
I feel like half the time these decks work as well as they do because of the person playing them. Makes me happy that mindlessly playing the top meta decks does not just guarantee free wins.
Love the PanharMoMicon deck. I'm totally going to play this.
ShellSHOCKED!
Disney rides are playing Magic ?!?!?😂
I think the mistake was not having dopplegang. Would have definitely been the thing to push it to undefeated 😅
Was thinkin of one copy of it in the deck, having so much mana ... Maybe even one desert😅
I think a Dopplegang would probably be TOO overkill, no haste creatures, and its really likely that Doppleganging for even a smallish number would empty the deck if you targeted the Turtle, demanding a Do or Die turn
@@syrelian sounds like the perfect choice then.
Butts and panharmonicons? Christimas in July.
But blue and green without doppelgang feels simply wrong, even if it would be terrible.
every simic players pet card lol
@@aidanfoss8551 Once you go simic... remember kids say no to simic, its bad for you.
@@desertbomber sultai on top
1:01:05 Atraxa, Grand Unifier gets Surveiled into graveyard on turn 1.
Seth: “hmmm what is our opponent playing? Rakdos aggro? Fling? A Grixis Crim deck?”
This is worse than Dora the Explorer. “It’s Reanimator! Seth! Look at the graveyard! It’s Reanimator!”
Your panharmonicon videos are the best!
OMG, Seth (possibly) trying to punt at 1:00:04 when he has lethal with Mockingbird. 😅 Fortunately opponent scooped, but was Seth really going to copy the Entrancer for the lethal? We'll never know.
When Fecund Greenshell shoots flowers out of his back, Seth makes a video about it.
When I do it, I get "sent to a place where I can get the help I need."
It's not fair
Seth, have you seen the deck with burn Bright/Mastercraft raptor?
I thought it was a pretty hilarious fling deck. Use cards like I'll timed explosion, craft to build a 26 or so power raptor then fling using cards like burn bright or that backup vampire!
Fecund Greenshell is my top end in a Analyst / Worldsoul's Rage build. So much value.
"panharmoni-mom" got me, that's fun
Seth loves to durdle with the turtle 😂
I play Nantuko Springheart on the turtle in Commander and usually people scoop. Big fan.
Me: playing UW control vs soldiers
Opponent: Season of the Burrow
Seth's opponent: Season of the Burrow
The pure simic version with outlaw stitchers and far scarier green cards that spiral out of control because of railway breakers and bonny paul might work a lot better. But then again, it's not panharmonican of course, heh.
The guy who conceded right away was in Platinum rank. How does this game manage to match you two up while you're in top 500 Mythic?
I think the bat duo card that gains life on etc would really work well in this deck. It’s a flying blocker early on, and it gives you much needed healing that pairs with the rest of your deck. It has higher toughness than power as a 1/2, and gets its life gain trigger doubled by elish norn. I know it’s a common, but it bits the theme of your deck quite well. Also I noticed you weren’t really ever using the clue tokens from novice inspector. Why not replace that? I feel like your biggest weakness with this deck is your inability to heal. Healing on etb sounds like the perfect solution. Once you get your turtle buffs your bio becomes a flying threat too. Consider it maybe?
I think the reason the guy scooped in game 2 is because he was paired super far up. He was only in platinum 3 and the game matched him with someone in mythic
I like standard but black has so much good removal that I despise playing against it
1:05:22 early scoop. Can block with frog then flicker it
I play a similar deck UG with Doppelgang... including a landfall version UGB with Vinelasher. Very very fun :)
What a great fecund deck!
Clearly Seth needs to turn this into a deck for Clash
Fecund is definitely a favorite of mine right now
Have you played the Cave deck in a while? I've been having success with it, got a sick decklist that is multipurposal if you want to see it.
... Isn't Shooter McGavin the villain from Happy Gilmore?
Yup
i wonder if like beza as a one of would be good in this deck, loves mommycon and helps stabilize more consistently against aggro?
What is that last deck you played against? What is that five color reanimator pile? I want to see THAT list of cards.
"Not sure why it has reach"
There's quite a few bloomburrow elementals that have reach
quaketusk boar, fecund greenshell, galewind moose, and lumra, bellow of the woods,
not sure why any of them do to be honest.
incoming flyer emphasis in 2-3 sets
@@niklasbauer7026 Bloomburrow also has a lot of fliers, since it has a lot of birds and bats. Which if you look at it, the fliers this set are mostly in blue/white/black. While the creatures with reach I mentioned are all green/red.
Looks like they wanted to make sure fliers aren't free in set constructed/draft
For once Seth got the pronunciation right and I was wrong. I always thought fecund was pronounced fee-kund, but it's actually pronounced fuh-kund. Good job Seth.
Fecund Greenshell is basically magics version of Bulbasaur. that why it has reach.
Virtue of Knowledge is an enchantment-nomicon. Was it considered to cut the white?
Risen Reef with combat stats does seem to be pretty good
Bedrock tortoise seems like it could be a good add, but I dont know how you'd be able to include it
I pulled off a Doppelgang x2 on a Fecund Greenshell the other day, and proceeded to drown by opponent in value from that point on.
Now this is against the odds
the word Fecund makes me think of Feces and therefore: Poop Turtle
I have built a sandstorm harbinger deck!!! It's kinds broken. See what you can do. White blue green. Featuring
▪︎Risen reef
▪︎Glasspool mimics
▪︎Panharmonicon
▪︎eleshnorn and doppelgang. If interested I would submit whole deck list.
I built it for a challenge laid down by my friend but I think it's good. Can you break it. Love the channel
Catchup-icon 😂
Panharmulligan: if you take a mulligan put twice the number of cards back lol
Pioneer list with Awaken the Woods, Blossoming tortoise and Sylvan Advocate please. Let's make some beefy lands boi!
I wouldn't say that Manifold mouse is that essential to Mice. It's your best two drop, but it's not Simulacrum Synth or Waste Not essential.
Someone basically played this exact deck against me in draft and I cried.
Well now it's time to make a deck that has all the panhermoncon
Plot twist: He trained an actual turtle to draw the cards for him
You say mice are much tamer.... you should try my bant blind mice deck. It uses doppelgang so I'm sure you'd like it, plus gaining absurd amounts of life each turn gets hilarious against aggro
19:46 You could have just "Three Steps Ahead" counter the Go for the Throat and won that game there.
he did not have uu available to use the counter mode on TSA
Greenshell and siege rhino against the odds deck please!
So.. if Elesh Norn is our Panharmonicon, but she's the "Mother of Machines," does that mean we could call her our PanharMOMicon?
I wonder if that one guy scooped when he saw your name because they wanted to play against the metagame and seeing your name means a good chance of playing against randomness instead. Does that count as your username being scary? :D
If Wizards shortened "enters the battlefield" to "enters", why not "leave the battlefield" to "leaves"?
The only place a permanent can enter is the battlefield but "leaves" can be used for the battlefield, graveyard or exile.
@@SlimViMa makes sense. But I did just look this up on Scryfall, the only time in rules text anything "leaves" is from the battlefield. I could be missing wording.
in the meantime, why not turn it into a keyword trigger? kinda like how things have
Landfall - effect
we could have
Enter - effect
Greenshell got me a win today ^^
Why is no one talking about Seth knowing Shooter McGavin by proxy!
lot of controversy around proxies prob why
Something that bugs me about the current way Magic's formats are run is that all of the neat draft synergies in each set are kinda dead in the water. You only get to draft a set for a month or two before the next one comes out, there isn't a block-level constructed format anymore, Standard rotating more slowly means that it's harder for new decks to compete against the larger card pool...
Yeah, sadly.
I've been having moderate success with raccoons in unranked, but in ranked, plat is full of too much oppressive monoblack decks, which it struggles against with all the early removal and discard. But that could also be just playing bo1 because I'm not experienced or confident enough to make a good bo3 deck. And I'm already struggling with wildcards.
Funnily and vaguely related to this video, the raccoon deck I built uses roaming thrones as a panharmonicon for expend mechanics and for doubling up on innkeeper's wards. The amount of people that try to use removal on Muerra while it has 2 ward 1s, thinking they only have to pay 2, then get hit with 6 ward 1 triggers on the stack instead, then scoop right after. It's pretty funny.
While Greenshell is great, you should see the comebacks arising from Blueshell
Why decline the land triggers to make land drop for turn? Am I missing something?
It sometimes matters because Greenshell puts the lands into play tapped. If we haven't made a land drop yet sometimes it's better to decline so we can play the land untapped and use the mana on something.
@@MTGGoldfish Oh yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks!
Dreamdew really just a removal spell vs that toxic deck
What are the numbers in the bottom of the cards mean the little orange boxes
Current number of lands over the number needed for the effect (10).
Cards that have an effect based on the number of something such as lands in play or card types in graveyard show how far they are to their target.
@@LongHairedTeen ty ty
''PAAANHaaarrrmulligan time... '' xD
59:43 CREW CLUCKING
That greenshell sure is fecund
There are some cards Seth just immediately scoops to.
Two turns of Gix and he's already out hahaha
I can't let the opponent draw more cards than me. That's my one rule.
Crue clacking?
Blue virtue? Or is that greedy?
Greenshell is like Nadu, but on xanax
Go Turtlemomicon!
Where are Sept 2nd spoilers plus Sept 3rd spoilers 😢
That guy will forever be named Shooter McGavin 😂 I don’t know his real name
Hey, if I were to get a mat from the store, could you sign it ?? I really want to have a singed mat. It would hold a special place in my heart. ( he might not see this)😔
Yeah! There's an option for that. The shipping costs a bit more because Richard has to ship the playmat to me to sign and then I ship it on to you, but otherwise it's super easy!
my favorite part of the video was when Seth said "it's Panharmonicking time" then Panharmonicked all over the opponents board
Any reason you're not running Virtue of Knowledge as a second Panharmonicon effect?
We've already got a big pile of five-drops between Elesh Norn and Greenshell, I just couldn't find the room. It is good in the deck though.
@@MTGGoldfish That makes sense. I've been surprised, with two panharmonicons in standard, that we haven't seen more people building around a full playset of each, but, 5 mana is a rough place to take a turn off just to set up down the road, especially with as fast as some standard decks are right now.
It might be worth a couple sideboard slots against removal heavy decks that can't deal with the enchantment as well?
@@jaredwonnacott9732 Honestly if standard didn't get expanded, this set would've been perfect for roaming throne. The set feels like it wants you to play a specific creature type. Roaming throne doubles all their triggers.
But yeah, with 3 year standard, like Seth said, the top decks are already existing archetypes that got and lost a few toys to play with.
Why no doppelgang