The Clans, Septs, and Armigerous Families of Scotland

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  • @ericbeaton7211
    @ericbeaton7211 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A real pleasure to listen to someone who knows and cares about what he is talking about.

  • @danielmorrow6165
    @danielmorrow6165 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoyed your lecture and have subscribed because of it. My mother’s Alexander lineage to MacDonell of Keppoch makes me eligible to join the Clan and will be applying to Clan Donald U.S.A. I hope to tour Scotland within the next year or so. Please keep the information coming!

  • @dabsafe
    @dabsafe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am one of those (Canadian) folks who own 1 square foot of land in Scotland ; it was purchased by my step kids for me as a gift and we all had a great laugh. Can’t raise many sheep on it but may visit it on my next trip to Scotland . I am however a Campbell that can trace my family to Argyllshire and have met my chieftain, the Duke of Argyll.

    • @plasticpaddy985
      @plasticpaddy985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are a Canuck, not Scottish, also a foreigner can't purchase 1Sq foot of land in Scotland, that's actually just a conservation funding project but not actually official ownership, it's basically a profiteering of foreigners delusion.

    • @masstv9052
      @masstv9052 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@plasticpaddy985 Your an A$$. Where did he claim to be Scottish? He said he can trace his familial heritage back to the specific area and clanship in Scotland, you utter bonk

  • @reginaromsey
    @reginaromsey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for doing these. This is going to fascinating! I became interested in Heraldry a number of years ago. My mother’s families come from Lanarkshire but the names in Scotland don’t seem to be people of a Clan unless it was a distant Hamilton.
    Check out a book _ A Dance Called America_ about the Highland Clearances. Very readable and touches on the Chiefs that didn’t sell out their people, like the Earl of Selkirk.

    • @Glesga_lassie
      @Glesga_lassie 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I live in Lanarkshire and would be happy to help you, ive studied ancestry and my own familys clan goes back to the 13th century.

  • @lawrenceburchett7411
    @lawrenceburchett7411 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lots of info,that is the way I understand the Clan structure also, thank you I have much Scots Highland blood, the story of septs is interesting . I am ( among others ) a Wilson of the Gunn, my Grandmother's Grandfather having been run off at bayonet point after stoning and beating up the factors ( he and his family he was 10 ) by the Sutherland clearances, a name reviled in my family . They as many Gunns went to Ulster then to the U.S. for us it is direct word of mouth familial history .So I wear my Tartan proudly.

  • @Glesga_lassie
    @Glesga_lassie 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My familys clan, the Buchanans (which is still my surname) originated in the 13th century. They came from Stirling, and supported Robert The Bruce (and fought alomgside him at Bannockburn) and im a relative of him too via my direct ancestor (27th great grandfather) marrying his great grandaughter, Isabella Stewart. I can trace my ancestors back to around pre Jesus times, they were Petty kings of Munster in Ireland before the son of the last king, Anselan, came to scotland and was given land by King Malcom after assisting him with invading vikings. I have a reasonable amount of knowledge on all this stuff as ive studied scottish history extensively, for many, many years. My favorite period is King James VI and I, and the scottish witch hunts. My ancestor, George buchanan, was his and his mother Mary Queen of Scots, tutor.

  • @straycat1674
    @straycat1674 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, I have 2 questions…
    1, Is a clan commander only appointed if there is no Chief or Chieftain? Or does the current clan Chief/Chieftain appoint one?
    How is a modern clan Chieftain appointed/Recognized?

  • @polytheneprentiss1534
    @polytheneprentiss1534 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative! Thank you!

  • @robertmaceanruig6291
    @robertmaceanruig6291 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Am a sept of MacDonald,😇🍺✌️🇬🇧

  • @brianbaswell5895
    @brianbaswell5895 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm a descendant of Clan Boswell. I wish our Family would come together and establish a new Chieftain! Our Family Tartan is white with blue, red, green and gold crossing through.

    • @OldNavajoTricks
      @OldNavajoTricks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Write to the Lord Lyon and place your claim :-)

    • @plasticpaddy985
      @plasticpaddy985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No one cares, Yankee go home.
      An American can never be Scottish because the title 'Scottish' belongs to the people of the land known as Scotland, and you can only have one nationality - and that is based on where you originate by birth, so that means those who actually come from Scotland, a Yank could say they had a distant ancestor or two who was Scottish but that is because they were actually born natively there themself as an individual, their foreign distant descendants would be totally alien to them speaking in a funny way with a funny accent and would generally be unrecognisable to them as a person.
      But even that's a stretch as most Yanks who claim to have a distant ancestor from Scotland are actually descended from Reivers - who were not Sxottish or English but lived in between both in a place called 'The Debatable Lands', they didn't consider themselves either Scottish or English but their own people - The Reivers.
      They were eventually considered an embarrassment to both the Kingdoms of Scotland and England because the law didn't extend to their lands from either the crowns of Scotland or England, so it was a lawless land rife in murder, theft, pillaging, rape and arson, as such, they were easy to deport as criminals who were 'stateless', they got deported as unwanted criminals who didn't belong to either kingdom and so they were brought to other lands who their descendents then intermarriage with other foreigners, mixed and procreate foreign descendents over generations and became their own people of New seperate foreign nations of different cultures and identities of their own, so the Reivers never had a real national identity but their far distant descendants did.

    • @OldNavajoTricks
      @OldNavajoTricks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@plasticpaddy985 How do you know he's a Yank?

  • @mcnoface8000
    @mcnoface8000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Learned a lot. This was brilliant cheers man

  • @frankmckinley1254
    @frankmckinley1254 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have one big question. If you see this post and care to respond. My surname McKinley is listed as a sept in three clan's how can I know which is the strongest or correct connection?! Especially if we have a Tartan listed for Mackinley.

    • @Glesga_lassie
      @Glesga_lassie 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe trace your ancestors and hopefully if you find where they originated from youll find which clan they were a sept of.

  • @charlesdriggers199
    @charlesdriggers199 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now some of what you are saying seems to be off base. I have so many descendants from the boarder to the Orkney Islands. So you are saying that my ancestry does not count ? That I cannot be of any clan? I guess I better notify my clan chief, of Clan Donnachaidh, and let him know.

  • @TacoRunner81
    @TacoRunner81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question. I am a McAlister and know that McAlister was a branch of the Clan Donald. Does this mean that McAlister can also claim association with the Clan Donald?

    • @HeraldryCorner
      @HeraldryCorner  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed, we will accept membership from any MacAlisters as they are historically considered part of the wider clan donald.

  • @jllammie444
    @jllammie444 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have any information on the Lammie's my dad was born in troon, I never asked my grandad enough questions.
    Our family has a tradition of first son Andrew, James, Andrew, James and I'm aware of Andrew's trumpet

  • @ScottAndScarlettsDarkHumor
    @ScottAndScarlettsDarkHumor 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds right. lol My ancestors by just the last name and not a specific location of residence (Allison) is one that is claimed by four clans. Donald of Clan Ranald, MacPherson (Under "Ellison") and the two clans of which I am a member, MacFarlane (Loch Sloy!) and MacAlister (Fortitier!). I do plan to eventually submit an application to Clan Donald as soon as my finances allow it. Due to the lack of records, we don't know where my specific Allison line comes from except the ultimate end being in Dal Riata so all 4 clans are plausible. There is a Clan Allison but it is not recognized by the Lord Lyon, whom I had the pleasure of meeting. He is a very nice man and if anyone is interested, please check out the Lord Lyon Society, it's something that the Lord Lyon has been working on and my clan has had the pleasure of sharing the information that it is now open to recieve memberships.

  • @smacwhinnie
    @smacwhinnie ปีที่แล้ว

    Clan societies are proliferating geometrically.
    Isn’t ‘Laird’ simply someone who owns enough land to derive an income from rents? Particularly if they don’t have a higher title

  • @bethmacphail8176
    @bethmacphail8176 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was going to ask Lord Lyon...

  • @ronaldfullerton5756
    @ronaldfullerton5756 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, that was the best breakdown I've heard yet on this subject, and I learned some things...I've a feeling I'm descended from one of the Lairds tenants kicked out to make room for sheep... :/

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      @marleyelian6069 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @marleyelian6069
      @marleyelian6069 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @blairrobert3438
    @blairrobert3438 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Check out the Basque if you have British/Irish heritage. The DNA in Britain and Ireland hasn't really changed much throughout many invasions/migrations and is very similar to Basque people. Anglo-Saxon England is anything but. Britain had a series of elite militant groups influencing culture like the Normans but they and the Vikings didn't leave a particularly prevalent DNA marker outside of particular regions. If you're from the North East your ancestors could be Pictish or even Finnish. Some very old Finnish pre bell beaker blood is in Scotland.

  • @edinburghwalks9137
    @edinburghwalks9137 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good one dear.

  • @dwaynedachumpjohnson
    @dwaynedachumpjohnson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi I am a Hutchison sept of the clan Macdonald south. I really dont know what it means but we were aloud to fight with them under a green and white tartan but still learning. Thank you. But how does the name go back to ancient dalraidia but no history.

    • @HeraldryCorner
      @HeraldryCorner  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello, well depending on what part of the isles you’re from it would now line up with either macdonell of antrim of macdonald of clanranald, both of which are part of the greater clan donald.
      Now im familiar with hutchisons from a few clans so to be a donald youd have to show proof of connection via an ancestor to clan Donald lands.
      All of our tartans are red/green/blue unless you’re referring to the high chiefs personal tartan(lord of the isles hunting ancient) itd be more appropriate to wear standard macdonald.
      Lastly. Dal riatia isnt an ancient kingdom first off, is early medieval, and proceeds the clans. There is a story that Somerled king of mann and the isles had matrilineal descent from the dal riatan line but theres really no way to prove it.
      Hope this helps!

    • @scclif
      @scclif 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My great grandfather was a Russell I traced back to 12th century in Aberdeenshire. My great grandmother was a Stewart and I don't know about her family. Would I be part of that clan Russell ?

    • @bonecollector1968
      @bonecollector1968 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scclif yes you would. It honestly doesn't matter, especially today. It would've been a different story hundreds of yrs ago if you lived in Scotland and took up arms. Most if not all men pledged there fathers name. That being said if your dad was a German import and your mom was a Donald, the clan chief would allow allegiance within the clan. It would be stupid to turn down a man especially during uprisings between clans. Basically the more men active the less chance of conflict. In a nutshell in the 1400's through the 1600's Scottish clans were gangs. Fighting for land, livestock and just plain ol tough guy antics. Cheers from clan morrison 💪

  • @derekheron5336
    @derekheron5336 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Heron,herring armigerious. We had our arms and cests recognised by lord lyon and we had alot of lands spread through Lothians borders and galoway all under the same basic legal coat of arms . The heron ,herings held around 20 castles and properties due to military sevice for scots kings especaily DavidII . These propertis eventually dwindled to one kirroughtree house in Galloway where the head of the house had all daughters and therefore Heron is now an armigerious clan. A maxwell maried one of the daughters and took the name Heron maxwell and quartered the arms . Nigel Heron maxell is considered to be the oficial head of the Family in the presend day but he can't ever be a clan chief because the Heron name isnt from his father's side

    • @steveheron8622
      @steveheron8622 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate the information there cheers 👍

  • @aikidragonpiper71
    @aikidragonpiper71 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Armstrong’s are a Armigerous clan . One of the their last Chiefs Johnny Armstrong of Gilnockie was murdered by King James. . After the union of Scotland and England most were forced to move to Ulster then the new world.Once one of the most powerful border reiver families. Lowlanders or not they sound like a clan to me when they could at one time raise a family army of 3000 horsemen. They raided and fought rival families like the border Grahams.

  • @joannemckinnon4622
    @joannemckinnon4622 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh We Rise Again The Stewart is my Clan My last name originated Iona Scotland John McKinnon will be your King my clan registed Us for this occasion.Also a Campbell highest Ranking clan .Highlanders wanted God and Freedom

  • @valverdefankhauser
    @valverdefankhauser 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you. Clan MacDougall sept MacDowell

  • @tampazeke4587
    @tampazeke4587 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We Sutherlands took an especially hard hit with the highland clearances.

  • @johnnyjet3.1412
    @johnnyjet3.1412 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, what is the status of MacBryde in MacDonald?

  • @Helmholtzwatson1984
    @Helmholtzwatson1984 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If my great great grandmother was a Rutherford on my mothers side I suppose I am not part of that clan because it was the matrilineal line?

  • @jmartin0805
    @jmartin0805 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can’t imagine why some of these families wouldn’t pursue full clan-ship and get it done. Do you think it’s more of a lack of interest or them not having a legitimate heir, so to speak? Could a prospective Chief just bear the clan surname and be voted in or do they actually have to show they were related to the main lines?

    • @HeraldryCorner
      @HeraldryCorner  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well there's two ways to look at this, from the perspective of an armigerous family who once was a clan, and from the perspective of an armigerous family that was allied or subordinate to another clan but never had a full chief. With the first sometimes there is no legitimate heir nor can one be pulled out of thin air, or there is someone who the family as a whole may want as their chief but the petitioner can not satisfy the genealogical requirements of the Lord Lyon, and so are not recognized as Chief. With something like a family being raised to the status of clan in a modern sense the procedure and vary on a case by case basis, especially as its something that hasn't happened often. If you are interested in further learning about this I would suggest getting your hands on a copy of "Scottish Clan and Family Encyclopedia" by George Way of Plean and the late Romily Squire of Rubislaw.

    • @jmartin0805
      @jmartin0805 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HeraldryCorner Thank you!

    • @chrisryan3770
      @chrisryan3770 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Reformation brought a complete societal change in Scotland. The Kirk insisted that everyone must be literate so as to interpret the Bible themselves without the need for a Roman priest. This, almost uniquely in the world, high level of literacy led to people reading more than the Bible and of course led to the Enlightenment. That led not only to the invention of everything from modern economic theory to the pneumatic tyre but it to a high degree of liberal politics and the removal of the feudal system. Some Highland clans held on to the clearances but that was the effective end. The movies and romantic fiction like to pitch the Jacobite uprisings as Scotland versus England but that’s a fallacy. It was the old world versus the new world and the vast majority of Scots were on the new world side.
      Outside Scotland the clan system is perhaps viewed as romantic but here in Scotland it is very much against the psyche of Scots, or British in general, except when deciding what tartan to wear for a wedding.

    • @jmartin0805
      @jmartin0805 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chrisryan3770 Good points, I find it interesting that Christianity brought Europe out of utter paganism and then again from a regression. The monks of Ireland were said to have saved a lot dark age documents. People like to not knock it, and mock it , but it’s been a very powerful force in world history. On the nationalism front I find it’s even more tricky. I think you had times where legitimate force was needed, to stop lawlessness, but other measures were taken too far. Some things needed to be outlawed but other restrictions were just cultural and unnecessary. Then you have the whole imperialism vs independence debate and I can’t blame anyone for wanting to regain their own sovereignty. It’s a tough back and forth for me but we have the benefit of hindsight as well.

    • @chrisryan3770
      @chrisryan3770 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jmartin0805 The thing to remember in the independence debate is that Scotland isn’t and never has been a colony. Our royal family ascended to the English throne forming the United Kingdom. Then a couple of centuries later our parliament requested a union of parliaments (after they had bankrupted us) to form the modern UK parliamentary union. So it’s not a debate about regaining sovereignty as we never lost it. It’s a series of questions on economic and political direction. I’m firmly on the Unionist side. As are between 55% and 60% of the rest of Scots. That number has been increasing recently despite a dip a couple of years ago. Unfortunately we have a devolved parliament that is a slight majority for separation. However, that’s entirely down to the fact we have an utterly ridiculous electoral system which has assigned 8 seats to the separatist Green Party and 4 seats to the Unionist Liberal Democrat Party despite the LibDems winning significantly more votes. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @jenniferandrew2470
    @jenniferandrew2470 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    On my fathers side is Andrew from New Zealand 1842, Clan Ross I know is my clan. This is where I'm confused. Andrew is a sept but is it family ? Many changes of spelling were made and Ross was not original. Thoughts ?
    From Goggle...
    Clan Ross (Scottish Gaelic: Clann Anndrais [ˈkʰl̪ˠãũn̪ˠ ˈan̪ˠt̪ɾɪʃ]) is a Highland Scottish clan. The original chiefs of the clan were the original Earls of Ross.[3]

  • @eamonnleyden7040
    @eamonnleyden7040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s a Irish thing going back to pre history

  • @harry9392
    @harry9392 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The house of is an English thing that became into being in the late 1800s
    If I remember right

  • @harrietwoolever6180
    @harrietwoolever6180 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought the British/English was responsible for the clearances. Very interesting.

    • @Glesga_lassie
      @Glesga_lassie 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nope, unfortunately the landowners were responsible

  • @Jubilo1
    @Jubilo1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    David Balfour-the House of Shaws...

  • @theladychamLV
    @theladychamLV 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m a yank née Colbert (Cuthbert). I’ve traced my genealogy to William D’Blainville Colbert born 1695 in Blainville-Sur-Orne, France, where our cousin, Jean Baptiste Colbert had built a Chateau. I believe his parents fled the Jacobite Uprisings of 1689-92.
    What I’ve discovered, we were supposedly the “King’s Barons” from Castlehill, Inverness.
    I’ve also found that the Cuthberts were the oldest Scottish Gaels. Yes, I’m familiar with the saint. ☺️
    Could you please advise if we would be Septs or Armigerous? I don’t believe we were a Clan given the lack of tartans and being Barons vs. Chiefs.
    Thank you for the detailed video...

  • @davidmacgregor5193
    @davidmacgregor5193 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your interesting video from a MacGregor

  • @straycat1674
    @straycat1674 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best definition between the difference of a Lord and a Laird i’ve ever heard of was this. The Lord is a title. But the name or term Laird Is more of a descriptive. Not a title.

  • @ytfjkvffyuuijjplky970
    @ytfjkvffyuuijjplky970 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You look like jack the vampires

  • @derekheron5336
    @derekheron5336 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spell checked is terrible not ambitios,armigerious lol

  • @stevenanderson7461
    @stevenanderson7461 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well I'm a Anderson so I belong to the Anderson clan

    • @HeraldryCorner
      @HeraldryCorner  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed! Men who bear the same surname as the chief are normally accepted to be attached in some way to that line, or their ancestors took the chiefly name as their own upon the adoption of surnames.

  • @lilmedusa8027
    @lilmedusa8027 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking for information on my ancestors with surname McClintick. Anything HELPS!!