Whatever Happened to Clan Lamont Lands?
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- Scottish Clans may be a thing of the past, but they carry emotional attachment across the globe. Scottish history tour guide, Bruce Fummey starts a series visiting clan lands to ask whatever happened to them between the times of the clans and now. We start with Clan Lamont.
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This should've been named Lamenting for Lamont's lost lands!
Do the farmers in Scotland own the land or are they tenants
My mother passed away last week. Her maiden name was McClymont and she always told us that they were part of the Lamont clan. Thank you so much for this. Gave me a little insight into her heritage.
So sorry for your loss. May she rest in peace 🕊️
I was adopted with my stepfather 's last name McCay, part of clan MacKay.My family is part of clan McGovern from Nortern Ireland.
my mother was also a McClymont she passed away two years ago her father samuel McClymont originaly came from ayrshire thats the reason i watched this as i knew there was a tie up to lamont
@@jameshorne9351Thank you, that’s very kind of you.
It's the same with my family on my dad's side when they sailed over to New Zealand. Lamont got changed to McClymont. The city where I live is called Dunedin. It's Edinburgh's sister city.
Bruce, your sly humour adds so much to your videos. In the process of learning much that I did not know, I get entertained to boot!
That's the hope my friend
Clan Scott please @@ScotlandHistoryTours
I definitely agree I look forward to Saturday morning just for my dose of Bruce History with Humor... I honestly was lost for the couple weeks in January w/o my Saturday morning fixx LoL 😂😆
You make my Saturday mornings fun and informative at the same time. You need your own TV series! Thank you for another great lesson Bruce!
Yay! Thank you!
I have to agree my brother...
Yes! So entertaining.
Hi Bruce! Thanks for visiting and featuring the Castle House Museum in Dunoon.
Look forward to welcoming you again sometime in the near future 😊
My mother in law is from Greenock and my husband is the product of the Navy being in there. My husband was born in 75 in Greenock. My father in law was the only American allowed to walk down the street where my Mother in law lived. The tension between the locals and the Americans was still high 2 years later. My husband is extremely proud of being born in Greenock and I honored his family by naming all of our boys with Celtic based names. But even more so by continuing a few of their family names. Proud to be part of the McConaghy line from Greenock Scotland.
I have to chuckle Bruce, as I'm a couple of years older, and grew up in the shadow of Cheyenne Mountain, where NORAD still is. I can still recall the Nuke drills in Elementary school. As I grew older, the drills stopped, but the fact that we knew we lived in a prime target zone should a conflict come, thst we'd best put our heads between our legs and kiss our wee arses goodbye should the siren ever go off.
It was a different time we both grew up in, just as it were for our dads and mums. I'm saddened to hear there was racial tension in Scotland at that time too, but I guess I'm not surprised either. The one thing I think most of us wanted to see was an end to that, and it warms my heart to see the kids today white, brown and black all get along together, laughing and hanging out as we should have done all along.
Now, if only we can get countries to get along better.
Heard an army medical doctor talking about how the ban the bomb folk would laugh at them as kids for being taught to get under their desks in the event of a nuclear attack.
Later when doing her army medical training she met doctors who had gone to Hiroshima and Nagasaki shortly after the bombs were dropped, and they told her that the majority of fatalities happened when the victims ran to the windows when they saw the flash of light. There they were shredded to pieces by the small shards of glass resulting from the ensuing shockwave.
She also said most of the irradiated material went upwards and spread out like an umbrella, so that there were areas closer to ground zero that had little to no radiation.
I am happy that you are willing to talk about the clans as well as the history of Scotland. I greatly appreciate all the information and also the way you present all of this. Thank You.
We just purchased tickets to see your show in Ottawa, Canada - we are very excited :)
Oh I'm DEFINITELY watching this one!
The governor of my state in the US is a Lamont. 👍🏼
Thanks for another interesting story!
I am a Lamont on my father's side. Neil Lamont lived in Tyree in the 1715 and married a McLean. Listed in a 1715 census mentioning their individual arms as well.
I watched this with my mum who was born and still lives in Stevenston. She worked in ICI Nobel explosives factory (although her English teacher in school wrote to her mum to ask that she avoided a job in the factory and took up a role in a 'nice shop job' haha) following in her mums footsteps during WW2, this was during the time when Clydebank was being bombed in an effort to also target the explosives factory. Her mum used to run the boggies filled with bomb shells that where shipped out.
I was born in an area of Stevenston called Campbell Avenue and my mum tells the story of a fued between Campbells and Lord Eglinton, who claimed to own the land that my house now stands on. There's a castle ruin across the road from me which played it's part in the fued.
Great video and one that got some great stories and history out of my mum, thank you!
Hi I wondered if you’ve ever thought about doing a story on Scotland’s oyster industry? . This is an industry that once employed more people that any other sector in the Fishing industry and it’s a story that connects Orkney with Holland Wigtown Bay with France.. And how the oysters in Lock Ryan survived… and how rationing during the second world War Harold, the end of the oysters in Scotland.
Interesting
God I miss Scotland. I was only there for a couple weeks last year with my daughter but it’s such a bright source of memories
History is so interesting that’s why I love it. You captive me in every lesson.
Wow, thank you
So well told with a balance of humour and pathos. As always, thank you for taking the time to share 🌞
I like the idea of doing a series "Where are they now?" on less well known clans. I have one clan I'm interested in and will wait and see if they turn up.
This was a great start fascinating and informative as usual.
I was a 5yo who started school iin Edinburgh at Bruntswick and three years later I returned to the US in California when I was told that my skill set as 4th grader was meeting all the standards but my AGE mandated I go into the 2nd grade....a compromise was met and I was placed in the 3rd grade. Americans also spelled things wrong, like colour and cheque ......My education was so much advanced because my early education began in Scotland. I graduated from high school at 16, the youngest in my class.
I'm a Scot and would love to see more of these videos on the clans and there castles , keep up the good work.
My ex is a Lamont . Her dad god bless his soul was a strong tall bloke born in Campbeltown I believe . He was a policeman and I believe the Lamont crest said they were law givers (I might be wrong ) . Have fond memories of Greenock, PortGlasgow, Largs and Millport . Keep up the good work Bruce . Regards from Northumberland.
How is it that two short phrases always come up? "It's complicated" and "The Campbells"?
Good to see that Clyde estuary. Thanks from a descendent of Scottish ex pats who came to the US to work on those big lasers you all used in the gulf last month. Love from USA, and so sorry my Da had to come here to do that work.
My Granddad's family is of the Clan Lamont. His mother, my Great Grandmother, would never allow a Campbell in the house. How history lingered on. Thank you for a very interesting and informative article.
Maybe a daft question, but do these Lamonts have any links to the now long gone Lamont shipyard and drydock of Port Glasgow and Greenock?
Brilliant presentation, Bruce - had no idea of Toward's history there!😯
... love Dunoon❤
(whilst many of us lot make our way to Glasgow Green every year, most would admit that Cowal's really the place to be😎... a few Lamonts amongst us, btw)😊👍
"... cuz one of them was called Campbell."😜👌
"I might've moved to Dunoon," he says🤣👏
"People held their breaths that little bit tighter."
(times haven't changed much, have they)🙏🙏🙏
... best channel on TH-cam, by far👊😉👏
My great grandmother was the Scottish writer Eva Hope Wallace who married my great grandfather JWW Campbell. She wrote a few books Sarah Bingham and A Soul Unconquered. Have you ever heard of her before? Is her legacy still remembered in Scotland?
Thank you for sharing this video! I have part of the Lamont clan in me. Glad to learn more about my clan.
My great grandmother was a bell that and other family surnames I have been researching there is a lot of wonderful history within these searches thanks again for sharing these wonderful videos >^..^
Love yer videos bruce 🖤 I'm a Black so my family is derived from the Lamonts, I also live just across the water from cowal on Bute, I wake up and see Toward every morning
Thank You for keeping the history of my Clan alive
My granny always used to say "Never Trust a Campbell"
Hello from Florida, USA. My last name is also Black and I’ve been told we are descendants from Clan Lamont. Researching that from here has been sort of difficult so who knows. Part of my bucket list is to visit one day. Have a great day.
Hi Bruce! I appreciated this wonderful story of the ups and downs of Clan Lamont and their lands. It shows a resilience the Scottish people are known for, probably the reason that so many of us here across the pond identify with them so quickly. I especially liked the tie to WWII and the presence of US armed forces there in Dunoon. My father was actually in the Air Force but he had friends on the subs there and visited when he got the chance. His memories of the locals and the gorgeous lands that they called home were one of the few things he would talk about when asked about the war. I don't know where, but he was stationed very close to London, so he described Dunoon as being a peaceful respite, something the locals at the time might not have agreed with! I also recall that he was mad at the problems the locals had with the base in the seventies but he never mentioned race. I was young then and he told me that our sailors stationed there were "not behaving properly"! Now I know why he put it that way! 😁 I hope that new ways are found to sustain its people soon. As a poor person myself, I can sympathize. But, as a person with Scottish blood in my veins, I know that they will find a way! My best wishes go with them. ❤
My mother Mary McLiver always told me that we are part of clan Lamont and we are entitled to wear their tartan! I was raised in London by my Mum & Dad (who was English) now I’m a part of the diaspora of the clan living up here in Aberdeen where I moved to 12 years ago to work , great to know all the history behind our clan. Thanks!
Thank you.
What a fantastic episode. You never fail to impress me!
Thanks for my clan history, my ancestors the MacInturners were a sept of clan Lamont and declared outlaw and the lands confiscated after Dunoon. They ended up in Northern Ireland till the 1840's when they emigrated to South Australia.
G’Day… I’m the 13th great grandson of Barron Turner and 12th of Barron MacInTurner. My son is the 13th Hugh Turner in our family line in the 13 generations since then. the family dispersed to many places in the world, my part of the family went to Southern England and later to Australia in the 1960’s. I recently visited the Barrons farm and ruined home Craig Coll and Nether Craig Coll. If you haven’t read up on the Barrons murder enroute to the Whistlefield Inn it’s def worth a read.
I truly hope in the future I hope my wife and I can go on one of your tours. Such great information and so entertaining videos! You are a true showman.
I hope so too!
Interesting and informative as always! When I was in the USA, I was stationed at a base in East Anglia. I always got along with the local lads, maybe because I was ugly and always had a few quid for a round!
Good production. I am a Luke....sept of Lamont. We originally came from Glasgow area
Thanks again---more light shone on the pat.
As always, great stories Bruce!
Me, my mom, my grandmother and all before her are decendants of Clan Lamont. I was blown away when i saw you made a video on Lamont, super cool.
Thank you for the recommendation. Fascinating history, a lot I didn’t know. I’ll have a look at the Dunoon massacre video next. Im intrigued. 👍🏼
Love your presentations. I was born a MacAlister, in Las Vegas, Nevada of all places. We have been scattered to the wind, but I’ve always felt connected due to the traditions and tales that have come down from my elders. I’ve learned so much about Scottish history from your efforts. Thanks for all that you do.
My pleasure
Wow, as one of those submarines who visited your country, I didn't realize it was it was so historic.
I gotta get my dad to subscribe to your channel. He is very into our family history
Not really connected to Scotland by family ties or anything like that; just really enjoy your story telling of Scottish history. Cheers for making your videos, Bruce :)
Ah cheers
I have a family crest wall mount I inherited that reads Brown as the clan name but the tartan, crest, and motto are all Lamont. Thank you for the history in this video. It helps unravel some mystery what was lost to time after my family were released from coyers work for death and injury and left the Fife coal mines behind. Thank you Bruce for your passionate dedication, pal. Love all your work! Sláinte from Colorado's rocky mountains!
This story is retold in “Natural Born” - historical fiction, on Amazon. Good to see more of the tale here.
I live in Wales, we had a similar situation except it was Pembrokeshire men who attacked and killed a German soldier. At the time the poor man had only arrived a week before and was delivering aid to the local charities it was a despicable attack and all 6 got life.
Thank you!!
Another fantastic video. Thank you, Bruce!
Awesome video Bruce. More of my families history!
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you for another great one!
Glad you liked it
🔭🐥 history is actually really very incredibly interesting , it wasn’t until after i had left school that i learned that i was descended from a scotland dude.. really great video 👍🏻 it’s great to see you .
Very interesting. Thanks for that Bruce
You are very welcome
Love your videos and sense of humor!
Thanks
Tapadh leibh Bruce - another great video .
🎉 Very nicely said...👍👀👍
Thank you kindly
Great video! I always find your videos entertaining and educational. I'd love to see a Douglas videos if you've got the time.
Another amazing story. Thanks Bruce.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for another great episode big man. 👍👍👍👍👍
My dad who passed away 10 years ago looked into our clan heritage and found out we were clan Lamont, I was born in St Andrews and lived in Fife for the first 10 years of my life before immigrating to Australia in 1970.
It is fascinating to learn about the history of what is basically a little known clan, I had never heard of the Lamont clan let alone to actually be part of it.
Many thanks good sir on filling in more about the greatest country on earth, a proud Scot who has never wanted to have an Australian passport, even after being here for 53 years.
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As a interesting point, the present clan chief is an Aussie that lives in Sydney.
I knock Campbell Soup off the shelf every once in a while when I pass it in the supermarket. I'm not bitter.
Thanks!
Ah thanks
Great video!!! I lived in Dunoon from 86 to 87, loved the community and the scenery. Culture shock with language and customs, also when to school there. Them Scots are some tough kids. Is the Jim Crow rock still there. We were told that it was painted that way because of what happened in the 70s.
That was interesting, cheers fella, hope all is well...E...😊😊😊
Glad you enjoyed it
My first wool 8yd kilt is Polaris Military, made for the US Submariners & support staff at Holy Loch. I’m a fast attack submariner veteran, so never got to serve there, but wear it as brethren of the US Sulent Service.
Dunoon..my home town.
Hi Bruce. Long time fan. Was great to meet you at last, Saturday on the steps going to Murrayfield. Love your videos.
Have learned more about Scottish History from you more than I ever got taught at school, and that was a long time ago!
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Aye, if only we'd got a slightly better result
@@ScotlandHistoryTours aye ref and TMO made a right arse of themselves at the end.
You could do a video entitled How Scotland got shafted by the Aussies and Irish. 😂😂😂
True tale about a US submariner who bought a house in Helensburgh. Whilst at sea for months his front garden became unkempt. The council complained formally to him threatening fines etc. They're stipulation was that his garden should be green and short at all times.
His solution? He slabbed it and painted it green then off to patrol the North Atlantic he went.😁
I've only recently discovered this channel. Love it! Thank you.
I was always told we were part Irish. But a website for a small town on the Inishowen peninsula said no, Scots from Aberdeen. But the only info have found concerning the sir name is Fettes College. My great grandfather spelled it Fette. The website in Ireland said they were a ruling family that the King of Scotland went to war with to regain control of the region. Anyone have any idea where i could find some info?
Wow Bruce YOU NEVER CEASE TO AMAZE ME! You just made me see another piece of 🏴 history from a new light. I knew of Scottish involvement in the missile crisis, because my dad was both Scottish & sent to Cuba, by the U. S. Navy for the missile crisis lol. But I never gave Scotland being effected by the Cuban Missile Crisis any thoughts 😉 I certainly enjoy learning new things from your point of view. Keep up the great work brother!💙🏴
A'reyt Bruce. More interesting tales and laments for Lamonts. Pretty cold out there, out of season? Happen a warm soup before the coffee?
It wiz freezin
Both of my parents are from Dunoon. My dad was the eldest of 3 boys and 3 girls. All 3 of his sisters married US sailors and emigrated.
@Scotland History Tours
I was a US Navy SSBN sailor in the late 1980s/early 1990s. I've met quite a few sailors who spent time at Holy Loch. I have a couple of friends whose mum is from Gurrock who married their dad who was stationed on the Submarine tender that was there. They moved back to the USA in the mid 1960s but she has plenty of family still living in the area, many of whom I've met along with some other women who married American sailors. I've never heard a peep about this incident.
I have put an inquiry into a Facebook group to see if I can get more perspective.
I can tell you this for certain, local girls just about everywhere are more attracted to men from elsewhere than they are to the men they grew up with. There are theories that this is an evolutionary thing to prevent inbreeding. Friction between military personnel and "townies" is a story as old a military bases themselves. No doubt it happened within sight of Hadrian's Wall and the Antonine Wall countless times.
My Grandad told me we come from Clan Lamont and traced the family back to a Mr Lamb who came down south from Scotland and got a job at Kew Gardens (who keep good records) and then when he retired bought the land my Uncle's farm is on. Which makes me about as scottish as the next Englishman I am sure but it's always interesting to learn a bit more about the clan history.
I'm right here 😊😊
Being Scottish Canadian descended ive often wondered when we lost our accent
Can you do a video on proscribed clans... or ones on MacGregor and MacFarlane?
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Bruce, I claim Lamont as my clan, as my last name is Patrick, and they're willing to take us all in. That being said, my family appears to have come from the Killwinning Abbey area of Ayr, and we're more likely to be tangled up in the fueds involving Cunningham, Montgomery, and Hamilton, rather than Lamont vs Campbell. There's some evidence that seems to the Patricks of that area actually being connected with the Kirkpatricks and Kilpatricks of the Dumfries area. It really gets confusing to try to unravel it all from America though, only having some records and genealogy books that have been digitized, as well as church books to piece things together.
This is so interesting...iv never thought about which clan my family might be from 🤔...my maiden name is "Strong"... I'm not sure if we are a branch off the "Armstrongs"... would be interesting to know...cheers Bruce for the video, certainly has got my curiosity going 😂
Wow!! You a beautiful cat!
Awsome as always 😊. Do you know about anything interesting about clan Boyle?
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They're from Ayrshire. 'How's that?
@@ScotlandHistoryTours well thank you guess that's interesting enough; I'll go check it out. 👍
Being the expert that you are, I would love to know something about clan chiefs and land. Are clan Chiefs required to have a home on their ancestral land and even potentially own some of their ancestral land? If they don’t are they disqualified as a clan chief?
My ancestors go back to the Lamont clan 💞. I married a Campbell. 😮 divorced a few years later. This explains so much. 🤔😆
Fie again on the bloody Campbells! (Said by a MacDonald)
Laughing hard at confusion over calling someone a fanny upon their return, thoroughly entertaining as always.
Thanks again Bruce. We forget there are modern battles to day. Some are political. The only victim being the truth or a version of it. Sad days still.
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Hey up brother.
Very interesting video as I was literally just telling people about this channel 😂 and I’m actually a descendant of both Campbell and Lamont so I guess they finally made up! 🎉 I’m a Lamont of Campbeltown slowly trying to take back our Dalriata ⚔️
Aye I'll be up in Campbeltown for the first time when I do my show next month
We’re still here, and there, and everywhere, but not there.
The Dover clan from Campbellville in Georgetown Guyana 🇬🇾
A few years back while visiting Edinburgh, I spotted a car with a bumper sticker that said “Do a good deed, Slay a McBean”. I used to worked with a McBean so I always wondered why to this day would someone hold an old family feud grudge.
Oooft
Love your videos. Especially love it when you say murder. Love the Scottish accent….shame my ancestors didn’t pass the accent down. Cheers from an Aussie. 🦘👍
Finally some culture brought to Dunoon
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An old friend of mine from my military days grew up in Glasgow. Graham‘s mother was from the area you were talking about. His dad was from California, serving in the U.S. Navy in Scotland. Every deployment on the submarine his dad had, Graham would be back off to Glasgow.
Now wow I ran into him. I’m an English born USAF brat. Graham was a Scottish born USN brat. I joined the USAF. Graham hated the Navy. So he joined the USAF. He was hoping to get stationed close to California, to be closer to his family there. I wanted England for the same reason.
Well I got what I wanted.
Graham ? Well, he got to continue to play the striker position for 81st TFW RAF Bentwaters Suffolk, USAF inter military league. Can you imagine the confusion his accent did to Royal Army and RAF teams. While getting their asses kicked.
Note: There were many of us military brats born in the UK there. Six were on the soccer team. Four of them had funny accents. I wasn’t one of them. There is no off-sides in baseball.
Oh, it was from Graham, I found out why we (UK born US military brats) got stationed in the United Kingdom. He found out there was an agreement between the US and British Governments. Called “Status Of Forces Agreement”. Goes like this in one area. “All British born servicemen in the United States Armed Forces, will be assigned to the United Kingdom, if able.”. Basically, the British government pulled a 1812 on our asses. I told Graham, “Should have joined the Army.”. (No US Army bases in UK) I got a quick stare, and a two finger salute, after I said that. “How bloody British of you!”, in my best Northern Essex accent.
Oh man we’ve got some awesome drone shots of these areas, should’ve contacted OYZ to use the footage for free we like your vids
I wonder if you could give me an idea of what would've been going on around the forfarshire area 1868 or a little before. I hit a dead end on my paternal lineage around there. James dear/daer and he was a hand loom weaver and farmer. His father was a John robert dear but cant find any information to go on to find his parents.
Which websites are you using? Any particular towns in Forfarshire?
Might have moved to Danoon for options at age 9❓👀
What can you tell us about the Graham Clan?