Was Yahweh Defeated By Another god?
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- 2 Kings 3 says divine wrath came upon Israel after the king of Moab, Mesha, sacrificed his firstborn son. Many think this is an example of the god Chemosh defeating the God of Israel but is that what the text really says?
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I am a Nigerian/American in my late teens, and I have been a Christian my whole life but overtime I started being more agnostic/atheistic but videos like yours helped me grow in my faith in a very short time thank you 😊. Oh can you explain why some Christians are saying the end is near because of the euphrates river drying.
I am really glad I was able to help you.
It's because they have been deceived by sensationalist stories. The Euphrates river is having issues from too much damming, but it still fluctuates every year.
@@InspiringPhilosophy No obviously Yahweh wasn't defeated by any other god. I'd love to see ya Inspiring Philosophy going on Joe Rogan's show to silence his ungrounded criticisms of Christianity and theism. AMEN brothers and sisters in Christ our Lord and God bless ya brother Inspiring Philosophy 🙏 😎. I really appreciate your Christ centered and Scripturally accurate content. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a 22 year old Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college student. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't.
I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict.
Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers.
Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years
ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of macro Evolutionary biology whereas I accept micro Evolution such as speciation and adaptation because there's no evidence of macro Evolution nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word.
Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant.
@@InspiringPhilosophy hey inspiringphilosophy, would you still hold to the truth of that prophecy though, in spite of the sensationalism, or do you think their interpretation is disjointed from the text?
@Marijan Ćorluka we’re not in the end times 💀 idk if u believe that but if u do ur in the wrong comment section
Hey! We're from the same country and same age bracket. That's cool. 😂
The whole Euphrates river drying up being a sign is based on really bad thinking. If we take a look at the chronology in the text, the bowls of Revelation 16 come after the reaping of the earth (which I'll assume is Jesus' "harvest" of the church). That clearly hasn't happened yet so the whole thing falls apart.
Yahweh cannot be defeated. He is the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords.
Lol
Sure, of course
Period
Then why do Christians believe satan rules over earth instead of the so called omi-god 🤨 in FACT some Christians believe satan is behind EVERY single religion on earth so doesn’t that mean satan HAS MORE worshipers than the so called omi-god of the Bible 🤯
Prove it lol.
I was and still am troubled and doubtfull regarding Christianity, and your videos have really helped me out. The amount of research you put into this videos to defend Christianity and debunk misconceptions is admirable.
I’m very happy to know I was able to help you
Can I ask what troubles and doubts you've had?
I doubt I'm smart enough to give you direct answers but I'd really like to know
Read Isaiah 45 then ask yourself why we use another name as a Savior. That's my biggest question.
YAH, Yahweh, YHWH, Yahweh Baal, are just names for Lucifer, Satan, Baal, Elohiym, Moloch, Nimrod, Allah, Tammuz, Semiramis, Osiris, Lilith, Isis etc-etc.....
Don't become Christian unless your going to defend it and live it and not downplay the words of Christ like most Christians.
Can we just have a moment of silence for all the first borns sacrificed in human history. It’s amazing how humans are still around with all the sacrifices our ancestors performed.
God show mercy to mankind that all.he could just send everyone to hell for our actions.
Every year worldwide, there are 73 million induced abortions that's approximately 200,000 abortions performed each day, and as of January 1st of this year till today, it's 1,791,328, and counting, every second. Human sacrifices have not ended. It's changed to go with the times we live in. Now they call it women's rights, my body my choice, women's health. But in the end, most women have abortions because they want prosperity, and a child will hold them back. Just like in ancient civilizations, they sacrificed their children for prosperity. Nothing has changed but the times. They still sacrifice their children to the gods.
Unfortunately they still happen.
God COULD show mercy by JUST getting rid of hell 🔥😡🔥
@@awesomepandaxxa6264 IN WHAT WAY DOES GOD SHOWED US MERCY ?? BECAUSE IN MY STANDPOINT I NEVER BEEN ABLE TO EXPERIENCE THAT , ITS NOT LIKE BELIEVING IN GOD PROTECT PEOPLE FROM HARM, LIFE DOESN'T GIVE A CRAP ABOUT ANYONE FOR EXAMPLE, NATURAL DISASTER KILLING BILLIONS OF PEOPLE NON BELIEVERS/BELIEVERS..
I WOULD SUPPORT GOD NOT CREATING HUMAN IN THE FIRST PLACE, THINK ABOUT THIS, GOD FLOODED THE ENTIRE WORLD TO ELIMINATE SIN/EVIL BECAUSE OF HIS HATRED OF IT, IF GOD REALLY CREATE A WORLD THAT HE FORETELL WILL INEVITABLE BECOME THE EXACT THING THAT HE HATE "SIN", WHY WOULD GOD CREATE A WORLD THAT HE FORETELL HE WILL HATE AND ELIMINATE LATER ??? HOW DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE??
What this video is about, is where the crossroad in my journey to faith was 5 years ago. I was minutes away from totally sealing the coffin of my faith when I read the moabite stone, the English version of the Bible, and took ancient history classes for my social studies degree. I believe God leaned on my heart for a brief moment to dig into this same passage. I did and came to the same conclusion. I decided to revisit all the other things about the bible that I thought were either debunked or just silent in history. I found IP about 4 months later with his 'Man or Rabbit' video. God raised my faith up from death through this passage. God be blessed
Pray that the same happens to me.
@@Nameless-pt6oj I will.
I don't know what else to say other than to offer my respect for your percaverance and open mindedness to look deeper before committing to whichever choice you decide upon
YAH, Yahweh, YHWH, Yahweh Baal, are just names for Lucifer, Satan, Baal, Elohiym, Moloch, Nimrod, Allah, Tammuz, Semiramis, Osiris, Lilith, Isis etc-etc.....
@@MrThatWatchman an ounce of evidence perchance?
Since some others are thanking you, I'll tell my littlel story too. I was ignorantly atheist for a long time, thought science conflicted with theism and God didn't make any sense. Learning about my own ignorance and realizing how lost I was in life set me down a pretty bad path of depression and existential crisis'. I decided to face my ignorance and your videos are one of the greatest motivators and help I have had, and has played an important role in me defending what eventually became my new found faith. Or at least seeking of that faith. So sincerely thank you, for everything you've done with this channel. It's positively changed my life for the better and allowed me to put more good into the world by being better educated and not spewing my own beliefs without proper reasoning or defense. Just ignorance.
"there is joy in the presence of God's angels over one sinner who repents." Luke 15:10
I’m in the same boat. I’m not sure where I am at really but I’m working on figuring that out and channels like this really help.
So you are a liar?
I once heard a professor of theology bring up this story (I don't remember exactly what the context was). I took it for granted at the time, but this video gave me another perspective. Thank you, I really couldn't be a Christian without your work👍
Fantastic analysis and treatment of the text, thank you. Love your channel and always watch your videos with great interest. I wish Sundays were as meaty, but sadly it doesn’t seem to thrill most Christians to dig into the Word this deeply.
Thank you very much for this channel, I'm having spiritual development because of you brother. I even was inspired to complete (and completed )Bible after watching one of your videos like a year ago
That’s great
Thanks the Lord this is the next one. I thought about this. Thank you God and Thank you IP 😊
I like your videos, when I have questions of things, or need help to learn what to avoid, these videos really do help me in my walk with God.
Great history lesson I read this article about this war awhile back.
Seems like a lesson from this story could be: two wrongs don’t make a right. Great video!
From what I read in Scripture, whenever God allowed his people to fall to non believers, it’s because they disobeyed him. But he would always promise to call his people back to Israel. This seems similar.
when I was a kid I thought Satan and God were like equal rivals who were arm wrestling. When I came to know Jesus I knew ever since Satan didnt have a chance to begin with since he is a created being while God is not. No one can defeat God, he holds the strings and have all aces. No one is equal to Him
And still he let us fall into sin? Wow...
Good stuff as usual IP!!
I love this channel. Sadly it is better than any church sermon i have ever heard. I have learned more about God from a utube channel that i have from any preacher. Please dont stop these videos
I’m glad I could help
@@InspiringPhilosophy on a side note.
I would love for you to touch the subject of the Ark of the Covenant. I find it a fascinating topic
YAH, Yahweh, YHWH, Yahweh Baal, are just names for Lucifer, Satan, Baal, Elohiym, Moloch, Nimrod, Allah, Tammuz, Semiramis, Osiris, Lilith, Isis etc-etc.....
@@MrThatWatchman
Yahweh is God's name. It literally means, "I AM WHO I AM."
@@MrThatWatchman keep repeating that and you will convince the ignorant and the myth. vision minions: but the intelligent think your nuts.
I've always been curious about this passage and have asked many teachers about it. Thanks you for your work. Many neo-pegans use this passage as an argument against God
Neo-pagans are automatically discredited
Revelation 13: First Beast is YHWH (Yahweh):
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Mar 22, 2015 by 9Nania
*Yahweh spoken backwards is HAIL BAAL*
Yahweh = YHWH = YHVH = Yahweh Baal = Jehovah
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And This Is Why the Name 'Yahweh' is NOT In the Original Hebrew Text
Nimrod is Baal or Lord Baal or Yahweh Baal
i thank the holy spirit and foremost God for wisdom but i saw this video
and one of the first things that popped in my head
was that the divine wrath was from God
@@andrewtatian7495 *Lucifer is the 'chosen' god of this World! The Elohiym (fallen angels) run this world for Lucifer-->>Understand?*
1. ALL of their science is a lie.
2. ALL of their history is a lie.
3. When they breathe, they lie.
4. When they blink, they lie.
5. When their wretched reptilian heart beats, they lie.
Thank you for this.
Excellent video brother ❤
this was a great video
Neat! God Bless, Brother!
Thanks for this!
This was fun to listen to, thank you.
I read this event recently and not for the first time i found the scorched earth policy of Israel and co very ruthless.
Your excellent analysis has shown, once again, that we need to examine the whole of scripture rather than a subset of verses. It's also a reminder that often the Bible is merely describing an event and not suggesting that God is giving support for Israel's disobedience
It’s important to also take into context the rest of 2 Kings. The entire book is focused on the decline and fall of Israel due to their disobedience and sin.
It would make sense if this was God acting upon Israel for disobeying the words of His prophet.
True
That's not what it says in the text, the text literally says the biblical God promises a victory and then fails and they are sent packing similar to when Hezekiah gets invaded but the same biblical God intervenes and sends the Assyrians packing and they leave, you can interpret it anyway you want but the brief bare facts are a loss for isreal, judah and edom in their attempt to vassalize moab in a parallel to the Assyrian story. Also this is just ridiculous on it's face need I point out the fact of what the Romans(lol dirty pagan polytheists) did to ya boys and your favorite holy place or all other sorts of Ls? They got big rekt and zonked by the Romans multiple times and Greeks..., dirty pagan Romans and Greeks too not even like Catholic or Ortho or Crusader lol pagan, those pagans with their weird Gods literally not only destroyed the place of the biblical God and turned it into a trash pit, they enslaved and sent in chains the most prolific elites temple priests etc total destruction and subjugation and they also enacted their own rites and weird pagan traditions to their Gods, like The Suovetaurilia literally was done by Trajan on the holy of holies, some Greek king also did offerings their after taking it.... sacrificing to their Pagan Gods for centuries(two and half centuries under Greek occupation, like 5.5 centuries for Roman)... like are we seriously saying this is the most undefeatable God? Ridiculous.
Which would make sense except that Yahweh told the Israelites to destroy Moab. Even if Yahweh had intended to betray his people, it makes little sense to do so while they are carrying out HIS orders. You don’t punish your most devout, that’s nonsensical.
@@arminhillman7956, you do if they refuse to listen to what you say.
Bro this video is a bunch of nonsense. Didn’t disprove nothing against chemosh, it says in the Bible that mesha sacrificed his son to defeat the Israelites who were winning at first, but right when he sacrifices wrath fell upon Israel. I’m so done with these Christian apologetics saying that cherish didn’t win. When it says in the Bible Israel lost and retreated why would Yahweh betray his people and punish them for trying to conquer Moab when he ordered them to ? And Elijah prophesied that they would win because of Yahweh
Great video. God bless!!
Whew, Going to watch this one again for further understanding. A lot to think! about.
Moab is two words of Mo (water) and ab (father). Moab = Aquarius. Moses is a personification of the winter solstice in Aquarius. When we speak of the Moabites we are referring to the southern constellation aka Libra thru Pisces.
The Moabites are still in the heavens as stars. Do you think any of the stars, in the southern constellations, have visited this planet? The Mo in Moses refers to water.
@@harveywabbit9541
Don’t know about Star visitors, but now I know “Mo Water” is redundant. 💦😂
@@JackBWatkins
Moses got his name from Egypt. Moses can be spelled as Mases, Meses, Mises, and Muses. The word Medad means water lover and is assigned to Libra, the first southern constellation. Eldad aka ram lover, is opposite Medad in the ram constellation aka the first northern constellation. The ram constellation is the first day in Genesis one. The Ma in Mary also refers to water, just like the Mi in Miriam.
Just remember no matter what you seek youll find it. If your looking for lies in scripture youll find it if your looking for truth youll find that as well
@@kellycombs8484
The big lie starts in Genesis one.
"When they [Israelites] participated with Mesha in his illicit sacrifice."
This is not mentioned or even hinted in the passage. Also, given the context of the passage the sacrifice cannot be for atonement. Even if we accept that sacrificing one's child for atonement was not uncommon in the ANE, it is also not uncommon to offer child sacrifice in the context of war or imminent defeat.
So ask yourself which is the more likely explanation?
God bless you, just found video of man stating that god lost to an other "god" and was really confused until saw your video. Thank you
Yep, I know which one you’re talking about.
@@InspiringPhilosophy YHWH is the DRAGON
If God is the same yesterday, today and forever, then why is it that Yhwh and Jesus are polar opposites!??
Both Malachi 3:6 and Hebrews 13:8 declare that God is the same always and never ever changes. He is always good, always loving, always all-powerful. No matter how this world changes around us, we can trust God is consistent. He is the same yesterday, today, and Forever!
Yhwh and Jesus are polar opposites.
But even Christians are absolutely convinced they're one and the same.
Yhwh is a physical being on Earth.
Yhwh is not the Father Jesus spoke to us about.
If you're going to say Yhwh is God, then you're left with a mountain of contradictions. Yhwh and Jesus are polar opposites!
Exodus 15:3
“The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.”
REVELATION 12:9
KJ21
And the great dragon was cast out - that serpent of old called the Devil and Satan, who deceiveth the whole world. He was cast out onto the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
"Who Deceiveth the Whole World"
Not just one group. But The Whole World! Think about that.
The jews/Isrealites were worshipping Yhwh/Satan
1 Kings 22: 23
23 Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee.
1 Samuel 16:14-23
King James Version
14 But the Spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the Lord troubled him.
2 Corinthians 3:14-18 King James Version (KJV)
but their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Jesus. But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
The vail is lifted in the reading of the words of Jesus.
The Vail remains to this day in the reading of Moses. Why?
Because Moses/Jews/Isrealites were deceived by Yhwh/Satan.
Isaiah 5:20
King James Version
20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
The Deceived see Satan as God and Evil as Good.
Apologetics is making excuses for the evil actions of Yhwh in the Old Testament. But they are really defending the evil actions of Satan.
Hosea 13:7
Yhwh/Jahovah says....
“Therefore I will be unto them as a lion: as a leopard by the way will I observe them:”
Hosea 13:8
“I will meet them as a bear that is bereaved of her whelps, and will rend the caul of their heart, and there will I devour them like a lion: the wild beast shall tear them.”
Revelation 13:2
“And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear (Tear) and his mouth as the mouth of a lion (Devour) the Dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.”
Leopard, Bear (Tear) Lion (Devour)
The Dragon gives him his throne and authority!
Jesus says...
Peter 5:8 - Be sober. Be vigilant. For your enemy the Devil is like a roaring lion looking for whom he may devour.
John 1:17
King James Version
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus.
John 8:19
“Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.”
John 8:40-44
King James Version
40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Jesus came to reveal the true Father but the Jews/Isrealites wouldn't listen. Instead they rejected Jesus and handed him over to the Roman's to be Crucified. Jesus came to redeem/free them from the Curse of Yhwh. You don't get redeemed from something good, you get redeemed from something bad. Nothing bad comes from Jesus/Father. Jesus told them "they are of their father the Devil".
Hebrews 2:14-15
King James Version
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
See, the Devil had the power of Death until Jesus came along and took it from him rendering him Powerless. Jesus took the keys from Satan when he was in Hades. Yhwh/Satan killed millions in the Old Testament.
Yhwh/Jahovah = Dwells in thick darkness.
Jesus/Father = Dwell in unapproachable light
Yhwh/Jahovah = Eye for an Eye
Jesus = Love your Enemy
Yhwh/Jahovah = Brought sickness
Jesus = Healed the sick
Yhwh/Jahovah = Killed
Jesus = Saved
Yhwh/Jahovah = Commanded the Isrealites to kill neighboring Nations
Jesus = Love your neighbors as I have loved you
God is the same yesterday, today and forever.
Yhwh/Jahovah and Jesus/Father are polar opposites.
How hardly anyone has caught on to this is beyond me.
It's blatantly obvious when you read the Bible.
Luke 9:54-56
King James Version
54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?
55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village
If it was god/Father who rained down fire in the Old Testament, then why did Jesus rebuke them and say "ye know not what manner of spirit you are of" ?? Jesus wouldn't Contradict himself or the Father.
So manner of spirit was Jesus talking about? The Spirit of Satan!
Genesis 3:8
“And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.”
Exodus 33:11
“And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend.
John 5:37
“And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.”
Jesus said no man has ever seen or heard the Father at any time!
Therefore Yhwh isn't the Father. Yhwh/Jahovah is the Angel who gave the law.
Again!
2 Corinthians 3:14-15
King James Version
14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Jesus.
15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
Wake up! You cant trust the reading of the old Testament.
The word of the true Father and the lies of Satan are intertwined!
The Bible only becomes clear through the Reading of Yeshua!
You must read the Bible through the Lens of Jesus!
@@InspiringPhilosophy 2 Corinthians 4:4
“In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”
god of this World. Yhwh/Devil !
2 Corinthians 3:13-18
King James Version
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
Galatians 3:13-14
King James Version
13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
"The Law" is a Curse.
Jesus Randsomed himself to Yhwh to Free Us from the Curse.
The People were being held Hostage by Yhwh.
@@InspiringPhilosophy If God is the same yesterday , today and forever, then why does Jesus Contradict and Condemn the Words and Actions of Yhwh and Moses. "The Law".
Yhwh/Moses said Adultery is Punishable by Death.
Adulterers are to be Stoned to Death.
Leviticus 20:10
King James Version
10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
Jesus Contradicts Yhwh/Moses . "The Law" .
John 8
King James Version
8 Jesus went unto the mount of Olives.
2 And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.
3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,
4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.
7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
@@InspiringPhilosophy "Lying Evil Spirit of the Lord" Yhwh is Satan!
1 Kings 22:23
King James Version
23 Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee.
1 Samuel 16:14-23
King James Version
14 But the Spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the Lord troubled him.
Hebrews 6:18 - "It's impossible for God to Lie"
God doesn't Lie, send Lying Evil Spirits, or Speak Evil.
Thats an Unclean Spirit. The Spirit of the Devil !
Another great video
I must say... These are really beautiful graphics.
That quote from Levenson at 14:00 offers so much depth to the understanding of both Abraham & the binding of Isaac and God the Father & the crucifixion of Jesus
Simply amazing! Need to get that book
The same book that says a God sacrifice Himself 🤥 to Himself 🤥 to save us from Himself 🤥 because of a rule He made Himself? 😡
The same book that plagiaries works of mythology INCLUDING ITSELF 😵💫
@@benclark4823 I want you to think about the phrase “plagiarizing itself” and then do it a couple more times.
Bonkers isn’t 😂
@@benclark4823 1Corinthians 1
18: For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
As a former seminary student you are doing a good job!However there is allot more to it.
he did a good job..but this where runs into trouble..Why would God take back a prophecy because he felt they have disobeyed him? He wouldn’t have sent a prophecy if he saw this coming..lol this is deity behavior that is not all power..That’s what this video places Yahweh in.
Eagerly waiting! Came across this last year ! But I believe there is no defeat for the GREAT I AM
Amazing video
I love this!!!!
Before all the angry Christians write an angry comment saying how God can't be defeated, and then click away, WATCH THE WHOLE VIDEO! He is not saying that God was defeated, it is simply a controversial title to get people interested, then he presents the theory, and then he debunks it.
personally i feel he didn’t debunk it..The whole point is they never conquered Moab as the prophecy said..and in no way did it state they the israelites disobeyed God so he let them fall..If that’s the case ,Makes no sense why would a God send prophecy and then later take it back, especially if he already knew they were going to fall..this is a big error and diminish of God being all powerful.
Well said. Cheers
woooooooooooah!!!! good explanation! =D and i had never noticed the problem even after 24 years XD
Though I am still curious about how the Moabite stone uncovered in 1868 should effect how we view this passage given that its an account of the battle from the other side. Perhaps an idea for future content. God bless
Moab is two words of Mo (water) and ab (father) aka constellation Aquarius.
Does the stone make you doubt YHWH?
@@DavidAmis19 lol.
I scrolled really fast and thought the thumbnail was General Grievous and thought "why is IP making Star Wars videos now" and then I read the title. LOL! God bless, IP
Well hello there!
@@daduzadude1547 General Yahweh
Wow, this is good. Bravo sir bravo!
Love the content, quick question: Are you related to Dr. Michael Jones by any chance?
The Creator of existence itself cannot be compared
Yet he lost to
Chemosh
Yet he lost to chemosh, cope
Even though I'm muslim, Christian theology is really interesting
All of these students of TH-cam are wrong.
They watch a few videos and believe they know everything.
Will you ever do a video on the idea that Ezekiel 26 contains a failed prophecy?
Well made
Chemosh demands we give up our son for atonement. Adonai gives His son up for our's.
Your comment helped me understand this better! Thank you, LeBleu!
Works cited: Enemies of the worshippers of Chemosh.
Good source, bub.
@@rustyshackleford1465 Sorry I seem to have lost the Canaanite text books. I'd really love to hear more about boiling baby goats in their own mother's milk. :/
@@lebleu8843 whatever you say, Abrahamite.
the hebrews stole their religion from those Canaanites.
@@rustyshackleford1465 Yeah and God punished them for said synchronism. Praise El Shaddai, God of War, God of gods.
Will you ever make a video about Mary, the mother of God??? A video maybe about her story or a video where you explain Mary's famous virginity? I think that would be super interesting
I think IP avoids subjects that are too controversial (I don't mean Mary's virginity is controversial but many things associated to her comes from Catholicism/Orthodox Church and are not accepted by other christians)
She was just a women chosen.. like ALL who serve the Kingdom of God. She was pure in heart. But she still also had sin/flesh hence why she eventually died..
This is why Jesus was born and conceived by the Holy spirit.
Jesus is the only one who can be called the begotten son. No other holds this title.
The seed of God brought Jesus. Who is God in the flesh. The trinity it biblical truth. 3 parts to G.O.D 3 letters.. 3 parts, 3 days in the grave, 3 woes to the earth.. 3 is GOD. Signs all around for proof.
Mary was just a vessel. The Pegan Catholics worship statues, idols, and false pope who truly is anti Christian. I mean the whole black mass in the chamber that looks like a viper….
There isn’t really much to say about Mary. Then she was the mother of Jesus and a blessed woman to get to carry the seed of GOD! :) we are all blessed by getting the Holy Spirit though.. because once you accept Christ and his grace.. you are gifted with this.
Hey IP, what do you think of Drew Holland’s paper on this particular passage in 2 kings 3?
Don't spoil it!
Yahweh defeated the Egyptian pantheon. Twice (and Ra was the most powerful of the lowercase-g gods), made a mockery of Dagon on numerous occasions, yet this one deity who later fell into obscurity was somehow a problem? I can't believe there's people dumb enough to take this interpretation
And thor defeated the ice giants 😋
@@benclark4823 And Zeus, Poseidon & Hades defeated the titans 🙃 are these the only orher gods you know about?
YAH, Yahweh, YHWH, Yahweh Baal, are just names for Lucifer, Satan, Baal, Elohiym, Moloch, Nimrod, Allah, Tammuz, Semiramis, Osiris, Lilith, Isis etc-etc.....
@@MrThatWatchman Also Quetzacoatl, Shiva, Ifrit, Siren, Minotaur, Diablos, Leviathan, Raijin, Fujin, Cerberus, Alexander, Gilgamesh, Odin, Bahamut, Tiamat, and them, right? What a bunch of crap
@@jordansteele3702 Yet the Indo-Europeans, Hittites, Vedics, Mauryans, Guptas, Achaemenid Persians, Macedonian and Hellenistic Greeks, and Romans are dust. The Jews remain and they endured the worst persecutions the world had to offer; the Egyptians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Romans, Medieval Europeans, Muhammadeans, the Spanish, Russians, Soviet Atheist Communists, the Nazis.
On the contrary, my anti-Semitic little friend, the Torah - particularly the Ten Commandments - is the cornerstone of the values we uphold and you have Christianity to thank for all you benefit from in western civilization. If you're interested in educating yourself, l can recommend some material so you can better inform yourself
As soon as I read the title I knew the answer to your question.
Obviously Yahway can never be defeated but his representatives on Earth can be. In the Hebrew scriptures The success of the israelites under his power is ALWAYS contingent on THIER being faithful to his Covenant.
The Millisecond they deviate from any of his commands He completely withdraws his support.
Sometimes he even actively works against them to CAUSE thier defeat.
I have read this Biblical event as well.
From what I understand, Yaweh was NOT defeated, but rather He allowed the Children of Isreal to be defeated in battle, because the Chilean of Israel revered the Moabite Goddess.
A good history lesson to not place other gods before Yahweh.
There’s another topic I’ve been curious, the post millennial and pre millennial debate. Based on knowledge and understanding of this topic, I for now lean post millennial but I wanna know more about this. Thank you 😊
Isaiah 45:5 - I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
No one can defeat GOD!
These demons that are playing gods knows their time is short! Lord Jesus Christ is coming soon 🙏🏼❤️🕊Repent, believe in the Gospel, Be Born Again
except the TRUE god chemosh 😋
You know if you and Christians are afraid of hell so much WHY not just worship a deity or pantheon that ACTUALLY HAS a nice afterlife instead of the caret and stick ETERNAL lake of fire 🔥 simply because YOUR god is a dictator that FEARS “”transgressions”” 🤨 how can you even “”transgress”” a god??? 🔥😡🔥
YAH, Yahweh, YHWH, Yahweh Baal, are just names for Lucifer, Satan, Baal, Elohiym, Moloch, Nimrod, Allah, Tammuz, Semiramis, Osiris, Lilith, Isis etc-etc.....
OT Yahweh is a tribal deity not the "God above all" of the NT. The other nations deities were gods just as much as Yahweh was.
@@DontBeCringe LOL 😆 Assyriains said the same thing in Isaiah ch. 36 The LORD answered them in 37 : 36 because Hezekiah prayed to YHWH in saying "O LORD our GOD , deliver us from his hand that ALL the Kingdoms of the Earth may know that THOU Alone LORD art GOD". 37:20.
Don't fail to learn history and have it repeated: you're lucky we are in the New Covenant not the Old Covenant.
A Thorough Refutation:
I do not agree with IP about where the divine wrath is coming from and why. First, one clarification: IP said that the "Hebrew word for wrath usually refers to the wrath of God." This phrase, Qetseph-Gadol, is only ever used to refer to the wrath of a God/Gods. I checked a concordance and did not find any usages that I thought were referencing humans. But if you would like to double check me on this I encourage you to do so. From my perspective, this passage must be referring to the wrath of Yahweh or the wrath of a Moabite God, very likely Chemosh.
"Is the author, who believed no God could rival the lord, really admitting another God could beat their own?" Here IP is unfairly projecting his modern understanding onto an ancient text. I think it's fair to say that IP, like myself, actually has no clue what individual wrote this text and has no authority to assume that they did not believe this. The Old Testament is rampant with Henotheism. The author may well be a henotheist. IP correctly points out that the monotheistic stories of Elijah and Hezekiah are in the books of Kings. However, we know that the work is redacted because the book itself tells us about at least one of its sources of information (the annals of the Kings). I must admit the possibility that the story in question was written by a monotheist, in which case, yes, Chemosh should not be understood as the source of divine wrath. But I think the more intelligent conclusion, i.e., the most likely situation, given our estimations of when these works were written and when they were later redacted, is that the author was a henotheist and the redactor was a monotheist.
So why would a monotheist redactor leave in a story about Chemosh's wrath? Well, for one, there's a lot of room for denial. As long as Chemosh isn't mentioned explicitly by name, people can come up with all sorts of interpretations that don't involve him, and that's exactly what we see them doing, even in 2023. But it also might not just be a case of denial. As IP points out, the phrasing in this passage is quite awkward in the Hebrew. One has to wonder if it's been tampered with. And if it is the object of tampering, then I think a likely possibility is that the monotheist redactor tampered with the story to remove an explicit reference to Chemosh. But this admittedly is pure speculation and should not be accepted without manuscript evidence. In any case, we do have other passages in the Old Testament where we do have the manuscript evidence to show that monotheistic redactors have altered the words of the originally henotheistic authors (Deuteronomy 32:8 is probably the most famous example). Just because the Old Testament was ultimately compiled by monotheists does not mean we should read the text with a monotheistic understanding as IP does; in many cases this is a gross error.
So I think it's necessary simply to read the passage and decide what is the most likely interpretation. I'll compare IP's interpretation to mine and argue that mine is more natural, and that actually we can use IP's own arguments against him.
IP argues that the Moabites are offering an apologetic burnt-offering sacrifice at which the Israelites are present and participating. Let's look at the examples that IP cites and see if they actually help his argument. He cites Judges 20:26 as a passage when sacrifices are made in response to a defeat. Is this a sacrifice of apology to the Benjamites? Not at all. It is a propitiation of Yahweh, intended to overturn their defeat in the next battle, which it does. This citation works directly against his own argument. Let's look at another passage he cites, 1 Samuel 7:9. In this passage, things look to be going very badly for the Israelites. Do they capitulate and sacrifice to the Philistine God, or offer a sacrifice of apology to the Philistines? No, they sacrifice to their own God, Yahweh, and he is pleased, and he defeats the Philistines for them. This passage is a perfect example of an army in dire straits making a sacrifice to their own God and being answered affirmatively. If we interpreted the Moabite story in the same way, we would say that the Moabites, in dire straits, sacrificed to Chemosh. He heard them, answered, and gave them the victory. IP's citations work directly against him.
How about the story of Ahaz and Assyria, later in Kings? Is this a strong parallel that helps IP's argument? Not at all. Ahaz has not gone to battle with the Assyrian kings. He has actually voluntarily subjugated himself and fought on their side. This cannot be a burnt sacrifice of apology because there is nothing to apologize to the Assyrians for. It's a sacrifice of thanksgiving to the Assyrians. It includes burnt offerings, and also grain offerings, and also drink offerings. This clearly cannot be of much use at all in comparison with the Moabite sacrifice.
IP quotes: "nowhere in the biblical text do we find the burnt offering functioning as the means by which one would appropriately provoke a deity for military victory assistance." But this is obviously entirely false because he himself has cited one such instance, 1 Samuel 7:9.
So one of IP's citations (Ahaz) is of no use to his argument, and two of them work directly against his argument. I think most likely IP simply accepted what his sources were telling him and didn't actually double check the passages. Or maybe he did, but he counted on his audience not double-checking him, and knew he could get away with the deception.
As for the idea that we must look to the Bible for context, yes, but why not other documents as well? IP probably didn't expect anyone to read the papers he cited, but unfortunately for him I did, and it turns out there are citations of instances in other cultures (Ugaritic and Carthaginian) of using child sacrifice to overturn an ongoing battle. They aren't perfectly analogous, but they are certainly worth addressing. It's awfully convenient that IP failed to mention these. And of course there's the crucial Moabite Stone, which seems to be discussing the same war as the one in 2 Kings 3. There the opinion is made clear that Moab's temporary vassalage is the result of the displeasure of Chemosh. Rather than doing some sort of apologetic burnt offering sacrifice to the Israelites, doesn't it make more sense for the Moabites, who believe their God is displeased with them, to give him a royal sacrifice that is sure to please him?
And now let's turn to the passage itself. What does it seem to be describing? Is it a sacrifice taking place after the battle is done that the Israelites are participating in? This, of course, is nonsense. Nothing in the passage suggests this, and IP is really trying to stretch things in order to get us to accept this. Rather, it appears that we have an accurate and standard description of ancient siege warfare. "Only at Kir-hareseth did the stone walls remain, until the slingers surrounded and attacked it." What is going on here? Are all the walls of the city razed? Probably not. You can't raze an entire city's walls until the battle is over. But the Moabites follow this with a sortie clearly showing that the battle isn't over: "When the king of Moab saw that the battle was going against him, he took with him seven hundred swordsmen to break through..." It seems to me that what's going on here is a rather standard event. The Israelites have made a breach somewhere in the wall. You can hardly defend a city once it's infiltrated so the Moabites have made the standard response- a last ditch attack through the breach, trying to save the city. And as is typical, this final offensive strategy fails. So the king resorts to the most drastic measures, sacrificing his son. It's all entirely standard stuff, a typical succession of increasingly drastic measures on the part of a losing king. Why try to twist the sense of the text to make it something strange when you can understand it in an entirely normal way? There's nothing in the passage to suggest that the battle is over. And by God, do you really think it makes more sense for the King to sacrifice his own first-born in the context of an apologetic sacrifice to the Israelites. No, obviously not. It makes way more sense as a move of desperation on the brink of defeat.
So the most natural interpretation of the passage is that Chemosh has responded to the sacrifice affirmatively and removed his displeasure, granting the victory to the Moabites. This need not mean that he is stronger than Yahweh. In ancient mythology, battles between God's (eg. Baal and Mot) are often not guaranteed in their outcome, even if one God is stronger. But since IP thought that Yahweh did not approve of this battle and that the Israelites were breaking the law of the Torah, I also think it could be perfectly reasonable to suggest that Yahweh, while more powerful than Chemosh, is permitting Chemosh to overturn the Israelites.
Hope this helps.
Finaly, a push back to this excuse of a video. I can't believe I had to get this far to see a crtical comment. This says a lot about IP's audience.
I too read the Dan Holland paper that was touted in this video. It's just full of bad arguments. I won't address them since you have done an excellent job already.
I like how you even gave them an apologetic way-out even if the passageis interpreted correctly.
Can you make a video about the Essence-Energies Distinction?
He already did.
1. Christianity And Panentheism
th-cam.com/video/_xki03G_TO4/w-d-xo.html
@@animalcart4128 thank you
This sort of makes sense. Need to think more about it to digest it.
The main issue here is that when people do hold to a Chemosh victory here, they typically are also keeping in mind the Mesha Stele. 2 Kings was written by a later generation, chronicling the history of the Israelites. The Mesha Stele was written by a contemporary to the war. Both written from the perspectives of their respective sides, but both give insight into the conflict. I think by not addressing the Mesha Stele that you are doing a disservice in this analysis. Sure, you might hold that 2 Kings is a much more trustworthy source, but the historical value of the Mesha Stele is unquestionable.
My understanding is that events in Mesha Stele predate this war in 2 Kings. This war is actually a revenge for the things described on that Stele. Mesha got his freedom from Israel and Joram called his best buddies to punish Mesha for doing that... Mesha Stele doesnt mention neither Joram nor combined forces of Edom and Judah, only that the long suffering of Moab under Omri and his son (Ahab) is over... that perfectly suits 2 Kings 1:1 and 2 Kings 3:5 which sas that when Ahab died Mesha rebelled (during Ahaziahs reign)... only after Ahaziahs death and Jorams accession to the throne this counter attack begins which is not mentioned in the Stele.
But even if the Mesha Stele describes this war with Joram and his allies, it doesnt add up anything to the discussion at hand. Ofc that he ascribes his victory to Chemosh, but that doesnt mean that the authors of 2 Kings thought that it was Chemosh who defeated them and their Lord.
The purpose of this video is to interpret the specific verse in 2 Kings, its original meaning intended by the author of the book, so it doesnt matter if its late or not cause the main purpose of this video isnt to prove historicity or describe actual events but to offer a different understanding of that specific verse about wrath coming against Israel, and it does an awesome job.
@@Tzimiskes3506 are you suggesting that Mesha Stele is a forgery? Why should Moab be mentioned during the battle of Qarqar? Moab was vassal of Israel then and probably didnt play that big of a role during that battle. Also events on Mesha Stele postdate the battle of Qarqar so there isnt any place for a major contradiction or anything.
@@magnificentuniverse3085 good point..and the video was good..but here is the problem, it actually diminish Yahweh being all powerful to just powerful. why would he give a prophecy and then take it back because they disobeyed him? why give a prophecy when you already knew it was going to happened..Doesn’t yahweh know everything in the future? makes no sense.
@@kingelement4160God is all-powerful but he still gave them free will. but delivered them what was promised and they would keep it if they had not sinned against him.
@@gioarevadze2703 I hear you but still this is all man made thinking or interpretation of God. No one really knows.
Yhwh is the Dragon who was Cast out of Heaven
If God is the same yesterday, today and forever, then why is it that Yhwh and Jesus are polar opposites!??
Both Malachi 3:6 and Hebrews 13:8 declare that God is the same always and never ever changes. He is always good, always loving, always all-powerful. No matter how this world changes around us, we can trust God is consistent. He is the same yesterday, today, and Forever!
Yhwh and Jesus are polar opposites.
But even Christians are absolutely convinced they're one and the same.
Yhwh is a physical being on Earth.
Yhwh is not the Father Jesus spoke to us about.
If you're going to say Yhwh is God, then you're left with a mountain of contradictions. Yhwh and Jesus are polar opposites!
Exodus 15:3
“The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.”
REVELATION 12:9
KJ21
And the great dragon was cast out - that serpent of old called the Devil and Satan, who deceiveth the whole world. He was cast out onto the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
"Who Deceiveth the Whole World"
Not just one group. But The Whole World! Think about that.
The jews/Isrealites were worshipping Yhwh/Satan
1 Kings 22: 23
23 Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee.
1 Samuel 16:14-23
King James Version
14 But the Spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the Lord troubled him.
2 Corinthians 3:14-18 King James Version (KJV)
but their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Jesus. But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
The vail is lifted in the reading of the words of Jesus.
The Vail remains to this day in the reading of Moses. Why?
Because Moses/Jews/Isrealites were deceived by Yhwh/Satan.
Isaiah 5:20
King James Version
20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
The Deceived see Satan as God and Evil as Good.
Apologetics is making excuses for the evil actions of Yhwh in the Old Testament. But they are really defending the evil actions of Satan.
Hosea 13:7
Yhwh/Jahovah says....
“Therefore I will be unto them as a lion: as a leopard by the way will I observe them:”
Hosea 13:8
“I will meet them as a bear that is bereaved of her whelps, and will rend the caul of their heart, and there will I devour them like a lion: the wild beast shall tear them.”
Revelation 13:2
“And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear (Tear) and his mouth as the mouth of a lion (Devour) the Dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.”
Leopard, Bear (Tear) Lion (Devour)
The Dragon gives him his throne and authority!
Jesus says...
Peter 5:8 - Be sober. Be vigilant. For your enemy the Devil is like a roaring lion looking for whom he may devour.
John 1:17
King James Version
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus.
John 8:19
“Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.”
John 8:40-44
King James Version
40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Jesus came to reveal the true Father but the Jews/Isrealites wouldn't listen. Instead they rejected Jesus and handed him over to the Roman's to be Crucified. Jesus came to redeem/free them from the Curse of Yhwh. You don't get redeemed from something good, you get redeemed from something bad. Nothing bad comes from Jesus/Father. Jesus told them "they are of their father the Devil".
Hebrews 2:14-15
King James Version
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
See, the Devil had the power of Death until Jesus came along and took it from him rendering him Powerless. Jesus took the keys from Satan when he was in Hades. Yhwh/Satan killed millions in the Old Testament.
Yhwh/Jahovah = Dwells in thick darkness.
Jesus/Father = Dwell in unapproachable light
Yhwh/Jahovah = Eye for an Eye
Jesus = Love your Enemy
Yhwh/Jahovah = Brought sickness
Jesus = Healed the sick
Yhwh/Jahovah = Killed
Jesus = Saved
Yhwh/Jahovah = Commanded the Isrealites to kill neighboring Nations
Jesus = Love your neighbors as I have loved you
God is the same yesterday, today and forever.
Yhwh/Jahovah and Jesus/Father are polar opposites.
How hardly anyone has caught on to this is beyond me.
It's blatantly obvious when you read the Bible.
Luke 9:54-56
King James Version
54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?
55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village
If it was god/Father who rained down fire in the Old Testament, then why did Jesus rebuke them and say "ye know not what manner of spirit you are of" ?? Jesus wouldn't Contradict himself or the Father.
So manner of spirit was Jesus talking about? The Spirit of Satan!
Genesis 3:8
“And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.”
Exodus 33:11
“And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend.
John 5:37
“And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.”
Jesus said no man has ever seen or heard the Father at any time!
Therefore Yhwh isn't the Father. Yhwh/Jahovah is the Angel who gave the law.
Again!
2 Corinthians 3:14-15
King James Version
14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Jesus.
15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
Wake up! You cant trust the reading of the old Testament.
The word of the true Father and the lies of Satan are intertwined!
The Bible only becomes clear through the Reading of Yeshua!
You must read the Bible through the Lens of Jesus!
Love from Pakistan. God bless u brother
You got a good voice
I have a question regarding Saul, in 1st Samuel it says that he sought the Lord's help but the Lord did not help him but in Chronicles it says that the Lord did not help him because he did not seek the Lord but he sought the help of the dead. How are we to understand this?
Saul aka Sheol is the evil winter season and is called the land of the dead. The Lord that helps is the summer season of crops/blessings.
Samuel (heard of God, or Aries). Samuel was the son of Elkanah (the Ram that builds = the Creator). Elkanah, we are told, was of Ramathaim Zophim, or the two-topped overflowings; i.e., the former and latter rains. He was also an Ephrathite, i.e., a son of Ephraim, or the twin-land '= spring and autumn, which corresponds to, and is the same as Ramathaim-zophim. Elkanah was, then, the Ram Aries during the year, or the year itself. He is further identified as the son of Jeroham (the finder of mercy = spring); the son of Elihu (his Ram = Aries); the son of Tohu (the depressed one- winter); the son of Zuph (flood = former rain).
Like others of the Bible patriarchs, he had two wives: Hannah (favor = Virgo during spring and summer before the ingathering = Sarai), and Peninnah (she that faces the Fishes = Pisces; from peni, to face, and nun, a fish, as Virgo does in the zodiac in autumn = Hagar). Peninnah, like Hagar, had children (ingathered crops), but Hannah, like Sarai, had none; consequently, a jealousy arose between the two wives; and Peninnah vexed poor Hannah until she " wept sore," i.e., until the rainy season, over which she presided, came on.
@@harveywabbit9541 what in God's name is this gibberish?
@@TandemSix it must be a bot
@@joel42677 probably
@@TandemSix😂
Jimmy akin, Trent Horn and Micheal Jones.
The mortal trinity of Christian apologetics
Never heard of this Jimmy Akin, but if he's on the same level as IP and Trent Horn then I absolutely have to pay his channel a visit.
Hosea 2:16
[16]And it shall be at that day, saith the LORD, that thou shalt call me Ishi; and shalt call me no more Baali.
Could you do a video explaining why God wanted to kill Moses and his son for not being circumcised after sending them back to Egypt to deliver Israel in Exodus 4:24-26
Amazing commentary, study and treatment of the text. And great relevance when many western countries are now dabbling in paganism.
You mean our original religion lol
@Joshua Scott Evidence? Prove paganism is original!
That it is the original Europereligion?!!!! I guess the Icelandic sagas are a starter,I’m a Christian but it’s utterly laughable to think the Vikings were Christian lol
@Joshua Scott Discussions about Paganism being original are often spoken of as though they are the original of mankind. For example Wiccans seem to think their religion of nature was the original religion of all mankind.
With regard to Europe particularly Northern Europe including Celtic and Gaelic etc... I'm still not necessarily convinced here either. I'd like to hear InspiringPhilosophy do a study on that. That'd be quite interesting.
But your point is noted.
@Joshua Scott May I also point out this idea about originality or the first etc is further complicated when the idea of origin of race gets thrown in. In other words are not European races also a product of the so-called cradle of civilization? If so would they not also be a product of the religions of their racial orgins there as well? And simply broke off and made up their own religion? All this must come into the discussion I think. Anyway that's my response back. Thank you
Father, I am thankful for understanding that nothing shall go out of your will, In Jesus Christ’s name I thank you, Amen.
its not exactly related to what you mention here in your video but i remember reading hearing about a group of ancient christians, (the cathars I wanna say) who died out. they had this belief that the entity in the old testament was a weaker God, who made a mistake with the whole devil garden of eden thing. so the Higher God entity, had to descend in the form of Jesus Christ to fix said problem. when I saw your video title, I thought you were going that way.
Cathars were a neo-Gnostic sect from medieval France, but there were many different forms of gnosticism throughout history. Some believed things along the lines of what you're saying, others were different
Ok that’s good explanation from a biblical and “cultural” perspective whatever that means. Do you have any source outside of the Bible maybe from moabites history and look at both sources to get a more objective view of it?
God works indeed
Saw Dan saying Yahweh lost
Came to TH-cam and saw this
Grateful 🙏
Glad to help
My only pushback is the Moab King is repenting theory. I believe there is the mesha stele that records the same battle described in 2 kings but from the perspective of the Moabite king and it says that the king made a sacrifice to chemosh and chemosh was satisfied and drove Israel back. It also doesn’t say that the king was seeking repentance for what he did.
I agree that this story is a very perverted exodus and that God was angry with Israel for breaking His laws. But I can’t really agree that the king sought repentance.
I addressed that issue towards the end, where I noted it likely the moabites thought it was chemosh. Also what line from the mesha stele are you specifically referring to?
Commenting so I can keep track of this thead
@@InspiringPhilosophy it was lines 18-19 and upon rereading it and finding a better source for the the translation I may be mistaken about it recording the event as well.
Ok, cool. I thought I didn’t see anything mentioned like that. I feel like if Westbrook didn’t mention it, it probably was not there, since he is a top tier scholar.
@@InspiringPhilosophy that’s a safe bet.
It is a very common theme in the story of the Bible that is rebellion against God. One of the most prominent examples outside of the pentateuch was Solomon's marriage to foreign wives and building temples for their gods. Solomon participated in sacrifices to even moloch, which is a parallel to the story in kings. This is an example of that rebellion and obedience to a false god despite what has been commanded of them by the one true God.
Hey bud, didn't you used to have a couple videos called "Age Of Deceit" or something...? What happened to them?
I feel like even on a common sense level...
I don't believe the creator of everything can be defeated by a lower being. He was before everything and created everything. His power is infinite.
He is only creator of this world.
Christs father created Yahweh. He created ALL.
The tyrant of the Old Testament is Yhwh. Christ was sent to share the truth and lead them away from the Tyrant.
Yes but it makes a lot of sense for the god of everything to have a favorite race and tribe he favors over all the rest of his creation
@@HappyHermitt no
@@gothictheurgist9367 I disagree with that statement since GOD clearly shows himself as choosing Israel in order for his word to be spread around the world later on.
@@gothictheurgist9367 Are you sure about that?
YHWH isn't just "a god", he is the creator of everything, he can not be defeated. But pagan people always had and still have a hard time understanding that concept of an almighty creator.
IF ITS FACTS AND NOT A SPECULATION THAT THE UNIVERSE IS ENORMOUS WERE ITS A POSSIBLY THAT OTHER LIFE IS OUT, AND SINCE YOU HAVE NEVER TRAVEL THROUGHOUT THE UNIVERSE, HOW DO YOU DECLARE YAHWEH IS THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE?? BECAUSE IF OTHER LIFE IS OUT THERE I THINK IT'S A POSSIBILITY THAT YAHWEH IS UNKNOWN TO THEM..
SINCE ERA HAVE A LOTS TO DO WITH BELIEF, YOU WOULD HAD TO EXPLAIN YOUR BELIEF IN YAHWEH IN PALEOLITHIC NEOLITHIC AND MESOLITHIC ERA
@@danielmullings3600 First, you need to tell me, how life comes into existence, otherwise the rest of your comment is null and void. You guys don't even realize how much you contradict yourself in just one little text.
@@wurzelbert84wucher5 AM NOT HERE TO ARGUE, I DON'T CARE IF A GOD EXISTS OR NOT, BELIEVERS IN YAHWEH ARE STILL DIEING OF NATURAL DISASTER. LIFE IS POINTLESS, THE POINT AM SAYING IS THAT YOU ARE PRESENTING ME WITH A QUESTION TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE AM DENYING THE EXISTENCE OF YAHWEH OR A GOD. WHAT AM SAYING IS THAT ERA HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH OUR BELIEF IN A GOD, IF YOU WERE BORN AN TAUGHT UP IN THESE DENOMINATION ZOROASTRIANISM, SHINTOISM OR HINDUISM, YOUR PERCEPTION OF GOD WOULD LIKELY BE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU KNOW NOW. SINCE THOSE ERA ABOVE WAS BEFORE CHRIST B.C. CAN YOU FIND YAHWEH IN BUDDHISM?? AND WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY IT'S YAHWEH??
Prove to anyone who has various kingdoms on earth with Various gods why he can't conquer them back in the ancient times why he loves to messed up with some kingdom nearby and get defeated once why not dare to challenge other god's in Shintoism and Hinduism back in those ancient times I bet the Sudarshan Chakra of Lord Krishna will beat his ass of this demoniac egoistic god the Sudarshan Chakra of Lord Krishna could destroy any egoistic beinys like this one on the bible who demands worship and being egoistic
yahweh is a middle eastern deity with power, it is not thee creator of everything despite bible saying that. Many deities claim that.
'The Father is in the Son and the Son is in the Father.'
The reason was quite simple -- the Israelites giving account to the offering, and moving away on their own accord, thus cancelling the affirmation by Yahveh. That was the reason, they got condemned by their God.
According to the general consensus of scholarship (even critical Christian scholars), YHWH was originally incorporated into the Canaanite pantheon as a son of the Canaanite high god El before inheriting the top spot in the pantheon and El's wife Athirat (Asherah) before religious reforms. If you want to see if El is fictional, just read his mythology in the Ugaritic/Canaanite texts.
"I should add here that it is very clear from the grammar that the noun nachalah in v. 9 should be translated “inheritance.” *Yahweh receives Israel as his “inheritance” (nachalah), just as the other sons of El received their nations as their inheritance (nachal, v. 8).* With this verb, especially in the Hiphil, the object is always what is being given as an inheritance. Thus, Israel is given to Yahweh as his inheritance. ((Here I’m indebted to Dan McClellan.)) It would make no sense for Elyon to give himself an inheritance. Moreover, as I’ve argued elsewhere, it is not just the Gentile nations that are divided up according to the number of the sons of El. It is all of humankind, i.e., “the sons of Adam.” This clearly includes Israel. And the sons of Adam are not divided up according to the number of the sons of El, plus one (i.e., plus Elyon). They are divided up, according to the text, solely according to the number of the sons of El. *Thus, that Yahweh receives Israel as his inheritance makes Yahweh one of the sons of El mentioned in v. 8. Any other construal of the text would constitute its rewriting."*
*"The Most Heiser: Yahweh and Elyon in Psalm 82 and Deuteronomy 32 - Religion at the Margins"* based on the *majority scholarly consensus.*
(Written by Thom Stark who is a Christian)
*"Michael Heiser: A Unique Species? - Religion at the Margins"*
(A second response to Michael Heiser)
*"Excerpt from “Yahweh and the Gods and Goddesses of Canaan” by John Day - Lehi's Library."*
*"The Table of Nations: The Geography of the World in Genesis 10 - **TheTorah.com**"*
(Excluding the short narrative on Nimrod (vv. 8-12), which appears to be a later addition, Genesis 10 contains *70* names of nations or cities, a number that was symbolic of totality. Similarly, the descendants of Jacob were *70* in number (Gen 46:37; Exod 1:5), *as were the sons of the supreme Canaanite god El, with whom YHWH became equated.)*
*"Mark Smith: Yahweh as El’s Son & Yahweh’s Ascendency - Lehi's Library"*
(Mark Smith is a Catholic)
*"02 | December | 2009 | Daniel O. McClellan - Psalm 82"*
(Daniel McClellan is a Mormon)
*"God's Wife Edited Out of the Bible - Almost."*
(Pay attention to whose wife Asherah (Athirat) is in the Ugaritic/Canaanite texts and how she became the wife of YHWH/Yahweh)
*"Yahweh's Divorce from the Goddess Asherah in the Garden of Eden - Mythology Matters."*
*"Married Deities: Asherah and Yahweh in Early Israelite Religion - Yahweh Elohim."*
*"Asherah, God's Wife in Ancient Israel. Part IV - theyellowdart"*
*"The Gates of Ishtar - Anath in the Elephantine Papyri"*
(It appears in addition to Asherah (Athirat) being the consort of Yahweh it also appears some Israelites also viewed the Canaanite goddess Anat(h) as Yahweh's consort)
*"Canaanite Religion - New World Encyclopedia"*
(Refer to the section "Relationship to Biblical Religion")
*"The Syncretization of Yahweh and El : reddit/AcademicBiblical"*
(For a good summary of all of the above articles)
Watch Professor Christine Hayes who lectures on the Hebrew Bible at Yale University. Watch lecture 2 from 40:40 to 41:50 minutes, lecture 7 from 30:00 minutes onwards, lecture 8 from 12:00 to 17:30 minutes and lecture 12 from 27:40 minutes onwards.
Watch *"Pagan Origins of Judaism"* by Sigalius Myricantur and read the description in the video to see the scholarship the video is based on.
Watch *"How Monotheism Evolved"* by Sigalius Myricantur and watch up to at least 21:40.
Watch *"Atheism - A History of God (The Polytheistic Origins of Christianity and Judaism)"*
(By a former theist)
Watch *"The Origins of Yahweh"* by Derreck Bennett at Atheologica.
Exactly right
bro what is all this garbally-goop-spam-schizo-text-wall? the polytheistic canaanites adopted another God into their pantheon? ok..?
So what is the creator God's name?
When you are KJVO and see it renders it as "indignation" rather than "wrath": *shrugs* I don't see a problem.
I supposed this is one of many strength the KJV Bible have. I preferred the KJV mainly for its rather poetic flow.
Jehoram’s guilty conscience convinced him that this calamity was the judgment of God. His own sin made him think that everything that happened against him was the judgment of God.
Another interesting note, is that if we read the LXX version, it says in Greek:
"Then he [went back] and took his firstborn son (the one who was to be his successor) and sacrificed him as a whole burnt offering on his [city] wall. And since he’d offered his repentance to Israel in such a great way, they left his land and just went back home."
This translation is written in accordance to the interpretation or understanding of the 70 scribes at the time who wrote the LXX from Hebrew way back in 300s B.C, and this would support one of the arguments made that it was an act of repentance on the king's part to YHWH and Israel, after he had lost. The Greek version interestingly, doesn't say there was wrath, or a defeat, the Israelites just "leave" of their own volition because of the king's repentance to them and their God.
YHWH IS THE DEVIL AKA DRAGON
If God is the same yesterday, today and forever, then why is it that Yhwh and Jesus are polar opposites!??
Both Malachi 3:6 and Hebrews 13:8 declare that God is the same always and never ever changes. He is always good, always loving, always all-powerful. No matter how this world changes around us, we can trust God is consistent. He is the same yesterday, today, and Forever!
Yhwh and Jesus are polar opposites.
But even Christians are absolutely convinced they're one and the same.
Yhwh is a physical being on Earth.
Yhwh is not the Father Jesus spoke to us about.
If you're going to say Yhwh is God, then you're left with a mountain of contradictions. Yhwh and Jesus are polar opposites!
Exodus 15:3
“The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.”
REVELATION 12:9
KJ21
And the great dragon was cast out - that serpent of old called the Devil and Satan, who deceiveth the whole world. He was cast out onto the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
"Who Deceiveth the Whole World"
Not just one group. But The Whole World! Think about that.
The jews/Isrealites were worshipping Yhwh/Satan
1 Kings 22: 23
23 Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee.
1 Samuel 16:14-23
King James Version
14 But the Spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the Lord troubled him.
2 Corinthians 3:14-18 King James Version (KJV)
but their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Jesus. But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
The vail is lifted in the reading of the words of Jesus.
The Vail remains to this day in the reading of Moses. Why?
Because Moses/Jews/Isrealites were deceived by Yhwh/Satan.
Isaiah 5:20
King James Version
20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
The Deceived see Satan as God and Evil as Good.
Apologetics is making excuses for the evil actions of Yhwh in the Old Testament. But they are really defending the evil actions of Satan.
Hosea 13:7
Yhwh/Jahovah says....
“Therefore I will be unto them as a lion: as a leopard by the way will I observe them:”
Hosea 13:8
“I will meet them as a bear that is bereaved of her whelps, and will rend the caul of their heart, and there will I devour them like a lion: the wild beast shall tear them.”
Revelation 13:2
“And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear (Tear) and his mouth as the mouth of a lion (Devour) the Dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.”
Leopard, Bear (Tear) Lion (Devour)
The Dragon gives him his throne and authority!
Jesus says...
Peter 5:8 - Be sober. Be vigilant. For your enemy the Devil is like a roaring lion looking for whom he may devour.
John 1:17
King James Version
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus.
John 8:19
“Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.”
John 8:40-44
King James Version
40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Jesus came to reveal the true Father but the Jews/Isrealites wouldn't listen. Instead they rejected Jesus and handed him over to the Roman's to be Crucified. Jesus came to redeem/free them from the Curse of Yhwh. You don't get redeemed from something good, you get redeemed from something bad. Nothing bad comes from Jesus/Father. Jesus told them "they are of their father the Devil".
Hebrews 2:14-15
King James Version
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
See, the Devil had the power of Death until Jesus came along and took it from him rendering him Powerless. Jesus took the keys from Satan when he was in Hades. Yhwh/Satan killed millions in the Old Testament.
Yhwh/Jahovah = Dwells in thick darkness.
Jesus/Father = Dwell in unapproachable light
Yhwh/Jahovah = Eye for an Eye
Jesus = Love your Enemy
Yhwh/Jahovah = Brought sickness
Jesus = Healed the sick
Yhwh/Jahovah = Killed
Jesus = Saved
Yhwh/Jahovah = Commanded the Isrealites to kill neighboring Nations
Jesus = Love your neighbors as I have loved you
God is the same yesterday, today and forever.
Yhwh/Jahovah and Jesus/Father are polar opposites.
How hardly anyone has caught on to this is beyond me.
It's blatantly obvious when you read the Bible.
Luke 9:54-56
King James Version
54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?
55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village
If it was god/Father who rained down fire in the Old Testament, then why did Jesus rebuke them and say "ye know not what manner of spirit you are of" ?? Jesus wouldn't Contradict himself or the Father.
So manner of spirit was Jesus talking about? The Spirit of Satan!
Genesis 3:8
“And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.”
Exodus 33:11
“And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend.
John 5:37
“And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.”
Jesus said no man has ever seen or heard the Father at any time!
Therefore Yhwh isn't the Father. Yhwh/Jahovah is the Angel who gave the law.
Again!
2 Corinthians 3:14-15
King James Version
14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Jesus.
15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
Wake up! You cant trust the reading of the old Testament.
The word of the true Father and the lies of Satan are intertwined!
The Bible only becomes clear through the Reading of Yeshua!
You must read the Bible through the Lens of Jesus!
The 70 scribes only wrote the first 5 books. Works like 1-2nd Samuel and 1-2nd Kings are known to have greater levels of Textual corruption compared to other works, so this isn't as steady of an argument as you make it out to be.
God can’t be defeated he has no rival or equal or anyone stronger than him
Source: some ancient Jew book comprised of stolen myths
What can we actually learn about this war from the Mesha-stela?
Nothing, the events it describes predate this war, this war is a revenge for the things described in Mesha stela
That YHWH WAS defeated by moab 🙄
@@benclark4823 well it doesnt say that... only that Chemosh helped Mesha free Moab from Israels oppretion, there is no explicit sign of disrespect towards Israelite God
@@magnificentuniverse3085 there is I just listened to it read. I’m a Christian so I don’t agree that chemosh defeated Yahweh, but pious lying isn’t pious.
@@benclark4823 Of course the stela is official propaganda.
GOD is above all
Al.. Mighty. Nuff said
God is the God of all gods created them and is the source of all power and principality SO NOW YAHWEH IS NOT AND CAN NOT BE DEFEATED
All these religious fanatics, the Israelites were defeated because of humans sacrifices, the king sacrificed his son and Jephthah sacrificed his daughter, Yahweh accepted the human sacrifice, what a tragic and horrifying as that is to Yahweh. Human and animals were sacrificed to Yahweh. Humanity were deceived.
Why can't the passage just mean what it states plainly? The pagan king offered human sacrifice to his pagan god because he was losing and great wrath came from this god against Israel and they found it to much to bear (refused to trust in YHWH) and withdrew from the battle instead of depending on the prophecy of Elisha that they would defeat the Moabites? Most of the Bible records the belief and unbelief of His people. When they believe; they win. When they disbelieve; they lose. This is just another example of the unfaithfulness and unbelief of His people and the consequences that follow.
That possible as well, but I chose to follow the scholars I cited. I prefer to rely on experts
Because Hebrew is really difficult to translate.
yeah i wish these stories from pre bronze age BC goat herders in an ancient language and foreign semi nomadic culture from the east who love metaphors that contains 60+ books just meant what it stated plainly.... instead of using super confusing symbology that hurts my little-tiny-r*t*rded-brain
Don't spread bullshit I guess the Israelites already wins once but they have been defeated in the end because the prophesies is the prophesies and God would stand on his claim if this God is a true God I hope it's not because iron chariots could piss him off haha then you mean prophesies are just lies ? I guess every prophecy comes into fruition also if this God is powerful enough then why not impart extraordinary strength you know just to showcase his omnipotent why does chariots could easily be a best weapon to scare them off hahaha
Even how many times you pointed out your pathetic excuse it doesn't make sense at all to the one who's truly omnipotent and Yahweh is not an omnipotent no matter what you reply I don't care stop making excuses for your weak god
The oldest recovered inscription with the name YHVH is the Mesha Steele. Mesha commissioned a steele that parallels the story in 2 Kings. In the Mesha Steele, there is no mention of a Moabite surrender. He basically brags about defeating the Isrealites and YHVH. “ I am Mesha, son of Chemosh-gad,[27] king of Moab, the Dibonite. My father reigned over Moab thirty years, and I have reigned after my father. And I have built this sanctuary for Chemosh in Karchah, a sanctuary of salvation, for he saved me from all aggressors, and made me look upon all mine enemies with contempt.” There is no archeological evidence that Mesha thought he was breaking an oath to Israel that would be displeasing to chomesh. He actually speaks about a mandate from Chomesh to run out the Israelites from Moab.
Mesha says in the Stele, “ Omri was king of Israel, and oppressed Moab during many days, and Chemosh was angry with his aggressions. His son succeeded him, and he also said, I will oppress Moab. In my days he said, Let us go, and I will see my desire upon him and his house, and Israel said, I shall destroy it for ever. Now Omri took the land of Madeba, and occupied it in his day, and in the days of his son, forty years. And Chemosh had mercy on it in my time. And I built Baal-meon and made therein the ditch, and I built Kiriathaim.
And the men of Gad dwelled in the country of Ataroth from ancient times, and the king of Israel fortified Ataroth. I assaulted the wall and captured it, and killed all the warriors of the city for the well-pleasing of Chemosh and Moab, and I removed from it all the spoil, and offered it before Chemosh in Kirjath; and I placed therein the men of Siran, and the men of Mochrath. And Chemosh said to me, Go take Nebo against Israel, and I went in the night and I fought against it from the break of day till noon, and I took it: and I killed in all seven thousand men...women and maidens, for I devoted them to Ashtar-Chemosh; and I took from it the vessels of Jehovah, and offered them before Chemosh.
And the king of Israel fortified Jahaz, and occupied it, when he made war against me, and Chemosh drove him out before me, and I took from Moab two hundred men in all, and placed them in Jahaz, and took it to annex it to Dibon.”
Please take a look at the translation work of Mauro Biglino as it's far more significant than the silly Billy Carson conjecture you recently critiqued.
He's not a psued, he was previously commissioned by the Vatican to translate the OT literally and dismissed because he did what they asked.
It's an interesting story if nothing else.
Bless you for all you've taught me, your channel is laudable. 🙏
Yahweh is God
There is no other God, how could he lose?
If there is no other God then who this God struggling against? Did God create other Gods for the sport of it?
@@philfree5261 demons and satN
@@dash5008 again what created them?
@Phil Free the blessed trinity created them as angels to serve him but because of pride they of God given free will they (LUCIFER AND THOSE LOYAL TO HIM)rebelled against God and were cast down from heaven and therefore they have become demons leading humans to sin .
Why does a omi-god need angels 👼
Have you ever responded directly to any of Dan mclellan’s videos?
You can't beat the creator of the game.
God is good all the time.
The true God, t&e Father if Christ, yes.
That is not Yhwh.
@@HappyHermitt You need sentence structure
@@BasedChad1 Yahweh is a false j*w "god"
So Elisha punk'd the king of Israel, basically?
Sounds to me like he straight up lied, by telling the truth in a way he knew it would be misinterpreted.
Walter White does it all the time in Breaking Bad: lying by telling the truth.
He's not exactly the good guy there...
U make it sound like the king was a good person, and didn’t deserve it
@@vrishankkanagala1514 Don't mean that one bit.
Jesus corrected Moses on divorce without faulting him.
I'm emulating the J man here, stating Elisha played dirty without faulting him.
@@el_killorcure It was different with Moses. War hurts a significant more amount of people than divorce.
@@vrishankkanagala1514 I take it you haven't had the "pleasure" of being in family court...
@@el_killorcure No, but I would imagine it’s better than literal war
Can you do a video about God's economy?
@Raccoon_Marine Does that make sense? Solomon prophesied, whilst th glory of god filled the temple, that if they disobeyed God and are enslaved, all they have to do was repent and turn towards the Temple and their sins would be forgiven. Either the prophecy was false or Yahweh was powerless or both.
Holy! Holy! Holy! Lord God of Sabaoth. Heaven and Earth are full of your glory; Hosanna in the Highest.