I have a Wiha Centrofix bit holder. It is excellent. Bits are held securely with no wobble. I use the Wiha Centrofix with Vessel, PB Swiss, and Wera bits and all these bits work very well.
I drive many torx screws each month, mostly T30 head with a 2 inch bit directly in the impact. I see 2 major points, first the quality of the screw head, second the quality of the bit. If you have good screws and a good bit, you just have to replace your bit when he wearout (for exemple a 2 inch milwaukee shockwave T30 won't last more than 1000 screws, I mean he will not hold the screw horizontaly) Btw, most of the time you get a "free" bit in the box of screws, they're just intented to last till you emptied the box, and most of the time they can do far more (again good screws, not chip one's).
Great review. I use stainless steel almost exclusively here in Hawaii so the wiha holder you have there is the one I love since I don’t worry about magnetic🤙
Thanks, solid info. My current go to is a Bosch quick release bit adapter because sticking bits hurt my soul. It has almost no wobble with the drills I use, but no magnet... A magnetic Wera adapter that was included in a torque wrench kit is has such poor magnetism that bits fall out with movement alone... Makita quick release adapters are alright, but the plastic of the bitset insets are notoriously rigid making it a pain to get bits out. I will definitely look for a Wera impaktor!
The entire point of these adaptors is to use the bits that come with the screws - particularly hex or Torx screws have to be used with the bits supplied in the box then you will find they fit snugly. These bits are shaped differently and the quarter inch hex end will go in your impact driver but won't lock properly and will pull out and be stuck to the head of the screw (because you are using the bit made for these specific brand of screws). So basically buy a decent adaptor - buy decent screws that come with a bit with each box of screws for free. It will be cheaper and easier to install the screws. That little Milwaukee bit you used is designed to go straight in without an adaptor and will wiggle and be lose in some adaptors.
DeWalt DWA6HLDFT 6" Available in 3", and 12" also, has pull back to release-locking collar, impact rated slim design... Best I've used to date. At Lowe's, give it a try bet you'll like it. 👍
If you havent yet found the best solution I recomend using the 2" Makita Impact XPS bits with their metal Mag Boost attachment that attaches directly to the bit itself. It will hold a 6" X 5/16 diameter Torx 30 Lag straight out parrellel to the ground. Its pretty impressive. Better get them quick though as im pretty sure Makita is discontinueing the metal Mag Boost and replacing it with one that does not work as well imo as I have a few of the new blue plastic Mag Boosts as well. You can get both at Home Depot righ now but youll have to buy the 60 pc XPS kit to get the metal mag boost I beleive. Unless your local Depot still has some left over individual metal Mag Boosts.
I just checked and they're still available, got me nervous there for a second because I love those things, they also fit on vessel impact bits too not perfect but still work
I like using DeWalt's slim locking bit holders, which are similar to the Wiha design. They fit in a lot of places and I avoid bits coming out of the holder. I'm not remembering how good the magnet is, if it has one.
Used to like those myself but they are garbage if you do any significant impacting with them. The collar surround that you use to pull back to release the bit basically loosens up and falls off quite quickly if you use them for professional impact duty.
Best method I've found so far is to use the 2" Makita XPS impact bits with the metal Mag Boost that attaches directly to the bits. Works great but of course Makita seems to have discontinued that system now so they're quickly disappearing at the Home Depot and being replaced with a new plastic Mag Boost which imo is not as good.
As a professional since 40 years I`m using the WIHA, HAZET and Milwaukee since years. Btw. I`m 58. Both are OK. The general question is: 1. Quality of the screw and the fitting with the bit. It would makes sense to check different screw qualities with the same bit and visa versa.A good screw must fit to the bit without any magnetism. My Bit favorite is WERA. From the Milwaukee Bit Set (Milwaukee bits SET shockwave 4932-4642-40) I was really disappointed about the fitting (using good brand quality screws). All the Best from Germany.
5:24, Funny you say that. My one has no problem driving big screws like bugles. In fact, it is outlasting my Dewalt, Makita and Bosch impact rated bit holders. It is also why Spax included an identical bit holder in their bitset. It is very good for impact driving.
According to Wera, the rapidaptor is drill-rated, not impact-rated, Im sure it will hold up to some light use with an impact. However, I'll take Wera's word on it.
@@ParklanCustom In real life application, it is very hard to break these well-made bit holders (impact rated or not). Usually the impact rated bit with a torsion design is first to break. Next, it is a cam out where the torsion transfer to the bit holder is vastly reduced. So it is very difficult to break Rapidaptor (889). Of course, I am not argue with the manufacturer's specs. Or believe every person will use the bit holder sensibily. But I just wanted to point out what you read can be false in the field.
@@JustAnotherChippy Great information. Thank you for sharing you perspective and experience. Its helpful to hear other people perspective and about their experiences.
Wow thats crazy, I knew you guys mainly used Torx screws as a standard, were as here in the UK our standard is Pozi, mostly because people are not willing to pay the much higher pricing for the Torx bits. However, when I have used Torx screws, I honestly have not ever noticed them wobbling like that at all, (actually I lie, there was one brand someone got us to fix ply to a floor and they were actually like that, but also was really cheap) so maybe with the higher pricing we have on most of the Torx here, that is why. Maybe if you got more expensive screws they would have much less slop/play?? Also yes, Philips were designed to cam out intentionally, I dont even know why they still use them in construction to be honest, Pozi is a much better adaptation to Philips, though they are still not the best option.
I've used my rapidaptor in my impact for over 2 years with no issues. I love the wiha bit ejection. I rather pull back to eject than forward but don't use the wiha due to the weak magnet. Wiha would be perfect it was the length of the rapidaptor and had a better magnet.
Im using a milwaukee impacter..those machines will destroy a rapid adapter. But those machines demolish any bitholder with a locking function unless its a Wera. Already broke 5 or 6 milwaukee impact bitholders( with lock function). Wera is by far the best choice, bits as well
I have the HF on my precision torx screwdrivers from wera, and i have seen the HF on the torx bits, I generally use just the makita or milwaukee torx bits which generally are pretty loose fitting.
my comment I have pasted again for you might help: The entire point of these adaptors is to use the bits that come with the screws - particularly hex or Torx screws have to be used with the bits supplied in the box then you will find they fit snugly. These bits are shaped differently and the quarter inch hex end will go in your impact driver but won't lock properly and will pull out and be stuck to the head of the screw (because you are using the bit made for these specific brand of screws). So basically buy a decent adaptor - buy decent screws that come with a bit with each box of screws for free. It will be cheaper and easier to install the screws. That little Milwaukee bit you used is designed to go straight in without an adaptor and will wiggle and be loose in some adaptors (look at old style/ cheap bits and modern ones and you'll see what I mean by the shape of the end that goes in the tool)
If you have good bits and good screws torx wont have any play at all, i've been using torx exclusively for many years now and have driven thousands of torx screws. But just with like any kind of screw: a torx bit from a certain brand might fit great in screws from brand A but doesnt mean it will fit great in screws from brand B, even on screws from premium brands. I personally dont use any bit holders with locking mechanisms, they just break at a certain point or get stuck from dust/crap getting in there and often they are too thick in diameter. I use the Wera 897/4 IMP bitholder. Its nice and slim, strong magnet and has retaining ring which is absolutely crucial when you work with bits that fit snug on screws. Sadly its the only impact rated bitholder that i know of that is slim and has a retaining ring. Oh and your Wiha bitholder is definitely broken and missing its magnet.
Got a couple my self, got two different wiha ones both are pretty nice, got a cool makita one, and a extra long wera one, then the normal boring milwaukee and dewalt basic ones. And yes the LOCKING wiha has a turd magnet but the basic ones that they throw in their little bit sets have a beefy magnet and the bits come in and out real smooth unlike my milwaukee that feels like it shaving my bits down everytime i cram them in there
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I have a Wiha Centrofix bit holder. It is excellent. Bits are held securely with no wobble. I use the Wiha Centrofix with Vessel, PB Swiss, and Wera bits and all these bits work very well.
I drive many torx screws each month, mostly T30 head with a 2 inch bit directly in the impact.
I see 2 major points, first the quality of the screw head, second the quality of the bit.
If you have good screws and a good bit, you just have to replace your bit when he wearout (for exemple a 2 inch milwaukee shockwave T30 won't last more than 1000 screws, I mean he will not hold the screw horizontaly)
Btw, most of the time you get a "free" bit in the box of screws, they're just intented to last till you emptied the box, and most of the time they can do far more (again good screws, not chip one's).
Great review. I use stainless steel almost exclusively here in Hawaii so the wiha holder you have there is the one I love since I don’t worry about magnetic🤙
Thanks, solid info. My current go to is a Bosch quick release bit adapter because sticking bits hurt my soul. It has almost no wobble with the drills I use, but no magnet... A magnetic Wera adapter that was included in a torque wrench kit is has such poor magnetism that bits fall out with movement alone... Makita quick release adapters are alright, but the plastic of the bitset insets are notoriously rigid making it a pain to get bits out.
I will definitely look for a Wera impaktor!
The entire point of these adaptors is to use the bits that come with the screws - particularly hex or Torx screws have to be used with the bits supplied in the box then you will find they fit snugly. These bits are shaped differently and the quarter inch hex end will go in your impact driver but won't lock properly and will pull out and be stuck to the head of the screw (because you are using the bit made for these specific brand of screws). So basically buy a decent adaptor - buy decent screws that come with a bit with each box of screws for free. It will be cheaper and easier to install the screws. That little Milwaukee bit you used is designed to go straight in without an adaptor and will wiggle and be lose in some adaptors.
DeWalt DWA6HLDFT 6"
Available in 3", and 12" also, has pull back to release-locking collar, impact rated slim design... Best I've used to date.
At Lowe's, give it a try bet you'll like it. 👍
These are my dailies - all 3 - along with the Klein screwdriver with the insert bits in the handle and a magnetic bit holder rail on my M12 Surge.
If you havent yet found the best solution I recomend using the 2" Makita Impact XPS bits with their metal Mag Boost attachment that attaches directly to the bit itself. It will hold a 6" X 5/16 diameter Torx 30 Lag straight out parrellel to the ground. Its pretty impressive. Better get them quick though as im pretty sure Makita is discontinueing the metal Mag Boost and replacing it with one that does not work as well imo as I have a few of the new blue plastic Mag Boosts as well. You can get both at Home Depot righ now but youll have to buy the 60 pc XPS kit to get the metal mag boost I beleive. Unless your local Depot still has some left over individual metal Mag Boosts.
I just checked and they're still available, got me nervous there for a second because I love those things, they also fit on vessel impact bits too not perfect but still work
I like using DeWalt's slim locking bit holders, which are similar to the Wiha design. They fit in a lot of places and I avoid bits coming out of the holder. I'm not remembering how good the magnet is, if it has one.
I’ve had the best luck with the dewalt slim locking extensions. 3” and 6” only available at Lowe’s.
Thx for the video!
Good to know! Thanks for sharing!
Used to like those myself but they are garbage if you do any significant impacting with them. The collar surround that you use to pull back to release the bit basically loosens up and falls off quite quickly if you use them for professional impact duty.
Best method I've found so far is to use the 2" Makita XPS impact bits with the metal Mag Boost that attaches directly to the bits. Works great but of course Makita seems to have discontinued that system now so they're quickly disappearing at the Home Depot and being replaced with a new plastic Mag Boost which imo is not as good.
As a professional since 40 years I`m using the WIHA, HAZET and Milwaukee since years. Btw. I`m 58. Both are OK. The general question is: 1. Quality of the screw and the fitting with the bit. It would makes sense to check different screw qualities with the same bit and visa versa.A good screw must fit to the bit without any magnetism. My Bit favorite is WERA. From the Milwaukee Bit Set (Milwaukee bits SET shockwave 4932-4642-40) I was really disappointed about the fitting (using good brand quality screws).
All the Best from Germany.
5:24, Funny you say that. My one has no problem driving big screws like bugles. In fact, it is outlasting my Dewalt, Makita and Bosch impact rated bit holders. It is also why Spax included an identical bit holder in their bitset. It is very good for impact driving.
According to Wera, the rapidaptor is drill-rated, not impact-rated, Im sure it will hold up to some light use with an impact. However, I'll take Wera's word on it.
@@ParklanCustom In real life application, it is very hard to break these well-made bit holders (impact rated or not). Usually the impact rated bit with a torsion design is first to break. Next, it is a cam out where the torsion transfer to the bit holder is vastly reduced. So it is very difficult to break Rapidaptor (889).
Of course, I am not argue with the manufacturer's specs. Or believe every person will use the bit holder sensibily. But I just wanted to point out what you read can be false in the field.
@@JustAnotherChippy Great information. Thank you for sharing you perspective and experience. Its helpful to hear other people perspective and about their experiences.
Wow thats crazy, I knew you guys mainly used Torx screws as a standard, were as here in the UK our standard is Pozi, mostly because people are not willing to pay the much higher pricing for the Torx bits.
However, when I have used Torx screws, I honestly have not ever noticed them wobbling like that at all, (actually I lie, there was one brand someone got us to fix ply to a floor and they were actually like that, but also was really cheap) so maybe with the higher pricing we have on most of the Torx here, that is why.
Maybe if you got more expensive screws they would have much less slop/play??
Also yes, Philips were designed to cam out intentionally, I dont even know why they still use them in construction to be honest, Pozi is a much better adaptation to Philips, though they are still not the best option.
Very thorough, thanks! Saved me from using the rapidaptor in my impact, cheers!
I've used my rapidaptor in my impact for over 2 years with no issues. I love the wiha bit ejection. I rather pull back to eject than forward but don't use the wiha due to the weak magnet. Wiha would be perfect it was the length of the rapidaptor and had a better magnet.
Im using a milwaukee impacter..those machines will destroy a rapid adapter. But those machines demolish any bitholder with a locking function unless its a Wera. Already broke 5 or 6 milwaukee impact bitholders( with lock function). Wera is by far the best choice, bits as well
Wera makes a super hold torx bit, last best tool did a video on them, might be useful for you if you do a lot of torx
I have the HF on my precision torx screwdrivers from wera, and i have seen the HF on the torx bits, I generally use just the makita or milwaukee torx bits which generally are pretty loose fitting.
my comment I have pasted again for you might help:
The entire point of these adaptors is to use the bits that come with the screws - particularly hex or Torx screws have to be used with the bits supplied in the box then you will find they fit snugly. These bits are shaped differently and the quarter inch hex end will go in your impact driver but won't lock properly and will pull out and be stuck to the head of the screw (because you are using the bit made for these specific brand of screws). So basically buy a decent adaptor - buy decent screws that come with a bit with each box of screws for free. It will be cheaper and easier to install the screws. That little Milwaukee bit you used is designed to go straight in without an adaptor and will wiggle and be loose in some adaptors (look at old style/ cheap bits and modern ones and you'll see what I mean by the shape of the end that goes in the tool)
If you have good bits and good screws torx wont have any play at all, i've been using torx exclusively for many years now and have driven thousands of torx screws. But just with like any kind of screw: a torx bit from a certain brand might fit great in screws from brand A but doesnt mean it will fit great in screws from brand B, even on screws from premium brands.
I personally dont use any bit holders with locking mechanisms, they just break at a certain point or get stuck from dust/crap getting in there and often they are too thick in diameter. I use the Wera 897/4 IMP bitholder. Its nice and slim, strong magnet and has retaining ring which is absolutely crucial when you work with bits that fit snug on screws.
Sadly its the only impact rated bitholder that i know of that is slim and has a retaining ring. Oh and your Wiha bitholder is definitely broken and missing its magnet.
There’s a darker Wera Impaktor and a stainless steel one that is a couple dollars cheaper. Which is better and why? Thanks!
Use Robertson screws and drivers and you usually don't need any of that gear unless you are driving a 4 inch horizontally with one hand.
Robertson bits fail too early
@@stevedixon8732 Only if you are using a low quality bit.
Wera always punchs way above their weight !
Meaning?
@@davidasdasd4666 performs above expectations !
Torx bits are always a bad fit?!? what? get some decent bits.
What about the Wera bits with Holding Function? That should hold the torx and hex screws even without magnet, shouldn’t it?
I think wera does have some tapered Torx bits that are supposed to fit really snugly and hold the screw.
SQ2 always get stuck for me
Got a couple my self, got two different wiha ones both are pretty nice, got a cool makita one, and a extra long wera one, then the normal boring milwaukee and dewalt basic ones. And yes the LOCKING wiha has a turd magnet but the basic ones that they throw in their little bit sets have a beefy magnet and the bits come in and out real smooth unlike my milwaukee that feels like it shaving my bits down everytime i cram them in there
Upgrade your Torx™ bits and they'll hold a screw MUCH better. Don't buy 'star' or 'spline' which are generic versions.
I have holders from almost every brand
What I take away from this is that no one bit holder is perfect for all situations, and it's better to have a few different options.
Buy WIHA torx bits...they fit 10x better than what u have, I promise u.
I’ll have to give them a try!
Wera should get the rights to Parappa the Rapper and put up a promotional game on their website. Parappa Rappadapta
Use wera Torx HF bits and never go back !
Use the impaktor 2 bitholder
Thanks for the suggestion!
Very nice,but too long
🪛 Wera has Torx bits with holding function (HF).
great video