How to do HIGH TIER PVE CONTENT in Frigates - THE THEORY OF SPEED TANKING (FULL GUIDE) | Eve Echoes

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  • @GentleNova
    @GentleNova 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    THE best video I’ve seen on speed tanking so far. Finally someone covers all the bases, emphasizing what will kill you (ie 06:00 dual webs) while doing it. When I first tried speed tanking a while ago on a condor II within a T5 Caldari mission, I kept nearly getting killed ASAP. I kept wondering what I was doing wrong until I realized I was continually getting missions where I was being dual webbed on the first wave. This is extremely rare to happen, yet it repeatedly happening to me for this character (yet my alt with a slasher II in a similar T5 Caldari mission would have no problems cuz they weren’t get webbed at all).
    Once I figured it was the dual webs getting me nearly killed, speed tanking has become so much easier. I just kite a bit to separate stuff and avoid two webs at once. Getting webbed once for me now isn’t a big deal but I think that’s because my skills are high enough to compensate. If you’re just starting out though and haven’t even maxed your basic frigate and afterburner skills, you might still get damaged. Once your skills are high enough, it shouldn’t be an issue.
    PS. Looking forward to getting a Hound and trying out speed tanking on it as well.

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  • @sentinelvortex8433
    @sentinelvortex8433 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Today video games taught me:
    Physics

  • @Excoundrel
    @Excoundrel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    TIMESTAMPS:
    [00:00] - Intro
    [00:26] - Basics of Transversal and Angular Velocity
    [03:33] - How to approach speed tanking
    [06:45] - Doing T6 Anomalies in a Condor 2
    (fittings = 2x MK7 Small Missile Launchers, 1x Dealer Small Afterburner, 1x Veteran Small Shield Booster - rest is irrelevant)

  • @captainharlock31
    @captainharlock31 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for theoretical background. I'm speed tanking Lvl 7 anomalies in Atron 2 equipped with small railguns. The most effective orbit is 1-2 km.

  • @alvarolima7060
    @alvarolima7060 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video. I can solo t10 anomalies in frigates. It's funny how the higher the lvl the easier it gets. Less ships to web you. My only problem is the cargo hold... Can't even loot all large anomalies and have to go back to station constantly.

    • @alexandrevieira3190
      @alexandrevieira3190 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How long it takes? What is your dps? How do you deal with the elites?

    • @alvarolima7060
      @alvarolima7060 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@alexandrevieira3190 I don't know how long does it take I just know that I get 2.1 to 2.5m ticks per bounty (20 min). My dps is 424.50 atm. When I run scout and inquisitor I usually get very far from the mobs and kill the elites 1st. They are the ones that get to me faster.

    • @alexandrevieira3190
      @alexandrevieira3190 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alvarolima7060 420dps with a frigate? Which one? 😮

    • @alexandrevieira3190
      @alexandrevieira3190 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      E obrigado por responder 😃

    • @alvarolima7060
      @alvarolima7060 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@alexandrevieira3190 Dramiel! Mas acho que Daredevil consegue mais dano ainda. De nada!

  • @ArchangelHornet
    @ArchangelHornet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    wow dude, this is awesome!

  • @JumpyWizardz
    @JumpyWizardz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can't wait to have a garmur and do this.

  • @ezekielzauner4245
    @ezekielzauner4245 ปีที่แล้ว

    any ideas on good starter builds where you using a booster or a micro warp drive to hit those 1k+ speeds?

  • @squidbonk141
    @squidbonk141 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Missiles op.

  • @0wn3dy0u71
    @0wn3dy0u71 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, here i thought my condor 2 was a beast since I clear tier 7 anoms solo in it, but I have been orbiting wrong set at 20km orbit as I thought being further out for some reason would amplify better with the speed and making opponents miss. After watching this I can't believe how I looked at it that way! Thank you for this, bc this will just make that an even more loved ship!

  • @Reynevan100
    @Reynevan100 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Webifiers are doom, but in t7 anomalies ships that have webs, if prioritized, can be killed 1 by 1 quickly, though you might have to jump away and back to re-engage.
    In PVP, you can usually live with 1 web on you, if its typical mk5 web, and your max speed is 1600-1700+, though depends on what is shooting at you.

  • @Laenthal
    @Laenthal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The problem is - as soon as you are webbed 1 small shield booster can't keep up with incoming damage.

    • @Excoundrel
      @Excoundrel  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you invest in a good one like a veteran it sometimes can, depends on the number of ships shooting at you

  • @ferofax
    @ferofax 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is quite literally how rocket science works. my brain is not big enough for rocket science. all I know is that the faster you are and the closer you are, the higher tracking speed you need to hit something. plus there's the fact that we can only currently guesstimate our enemy's speed because that information is *simply not viewable right now.* All info we can see from enemies is their distance and the status of their shields/armor/structure, and what weapons/modules they may have based on visual cues. So we can't really use the formula to find out the ideal range to keep our enemies in.

  • @c.jvangreuning8862
    @c.jvangreuning8862 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been doing this for a while now and did small 7 by myself and a inq lv 5 with a friend and it's fun...

  • @Concernify
    @Concernify 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    is there a resource for average anomaly bounty value (NOT loot) by tier? Specifically, the value in bounties of an average t10 and various sizes?

  • @dinospumoni5611
    @dinospumoni5611 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you recommend as an orbit distance for close range ships like this or nosferatu fits on fast cruisers?

  • @michaelro4181
    @michaelro4181 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you share your hardware configuration? Are you using blue stacks to play EE? Which laptop are you playing on?

  • @Butcher1Alpha
    @Butcher1Alpha 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You had me at .... Transversal Velocity

  • @pRobo6
    @pRobo6 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is no dealer small afterburner, you meant smuggler?

  • @workn4evr
    @workn4evr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What system are you playing this on? Are you using bluestacks? And no idea where those custom menu choices come from. You're holding out on us, sir. ;-)

  • @ianyboo
    @ianyboo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have any videos planned explaining how to set up preferences in the overview? I poked around in there a little bit but was pretty much immediately overwhelmed with options that made no sense. I've been just using the defaults since the game launched and it feels like A lot of situations would go more smoothly if it was customized but it feels like voodoo.

    • @Excoundrel
      @Excoundrel  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have a video on the channel already one sec

    • @Excoundrel
      @Excoundrel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      th-cam.com/video/w8e4RwrIPw0/w-d-xo.html

    • @ianyboo
      @ianyboo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Excoundrel oh sweet Don't know how I missed that Thank you! Watching now

    • @tenacious10s85
      @tenacious10s85 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Virtual Willis just pay attention it’s still buggy and will delete ur settings after a few logs

  • @NOSgamer0
    @NOSgamer0 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some tipps for a Worm?
    With AB only 1300m/s.
    Way to slow for speedtanking

    • @thezerker2528
      @thezerker2528 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Skill up and get a better burner. Myxworm does 1640m/s

  • @Anonymouschannel8181
    @Anonymouschannel8181 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, but I wish it would be a bit louder, have volume turned up for you, then get deafened by ads

  • @beng7845
    @beng7845 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love my frigates, though lost tons of them the latest trying to solo a lvl 7 dead space. Only cheap gear so I can just have fun with out fear of being killed and losing millions

  • @dedyarief996
    @dedyarief996 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The only problem when doing speed tank with close range weapon in t5-6 encounters is when the rats are group up and you got webbed then other rats are gank you lol

    • @NogativePesative
      @NogativePesative 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Get them to spread out by warping in at distance and either burning away slowly or orbiting at max range and letting the faster ships come to you. Not recommended for story missions in a solo frigate though.

  • @goodboi8435
    @goodboi8435 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tried hound for pve with 5-5-4 frigate command you gonna love it!

    • @Excoundrel
      @Excoundrel  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oooooh what range you orbit at and what types of content you doing?

    • @goodboi8435
      @goodboi8435 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Excoundrel it's 200m story with my friends and orbit at 4km without taking any damage. I got nos and web as well.

    • @Excoundrel
      @Excoundrel  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@goodboi8435 what afterburner skill do you have? I'm going to be 5/5/3 today!

    • @goodboi8435
      @goodboi8435 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Excoundrel it's 5-4 i think, max speed about 1360 but that's enough even with 1 web stick to this puppy.

  • @chikinnunget5231
    @chikinnunget5231 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    in what situations could you swap the AB with a MWD?

    • @BigKingKaz
      @BigKingKaz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stealth Bombers can use MWDs effectively.

  • @mylesnunez7274
    @mylesnunez7274 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does Signature Radius matter when doing this technique? I'm planning to do the same in my Cyclone for Story Missions that use Turrets.

    • @Excoundrel
      @Excoundrel  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, sig radius is like a multiplier

    • @mylesnunez7274
      @mylesnunez7274 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Excoundrel alright thanks

  • @ThisisCitrus
    @ThisisCitrus 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So if angular = tracking speed means 50% hit chance at 40% damage reduction, how does that change over increasing tracking speed towards 100% hit with full damage?

    • @Excoundrel
      @Excoundrel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's an insanely complex formula that would need a video on its own but 50% hit chance with 40% damage is bad so you jsut want to ensure you're at least 2x tracking speed

    • @ThisisCitrus
      @ThisisCitrus 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Excoundrel Gotcha, is 2x tracking speed 100% with no reduction?

  • @reviniaputri
    @reviniaputri 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think of lowering my inertia with rigs, does it help me to speed tank better while orbiting? since i never see any gear for lowering signature, thanks

    • @Excoundrel
      @Excoundrel  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes but other low slots might be better

  • @saveushiral
    @saveushiral 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I should invest my skills in frigates instead of bc.. especially now due to gate camping becoming so common in low sec... I really want to do high lvl story missions but can't go to low sec in my cruiser due to gate camping.... I already lost my caracal navy issue due to gate camping.. any tips would be appreciated

    • @MovieReviewings
      @MovieReviewings 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sorry to hear that. I'm a bit put off that low sec is more dangerous than null sec as well

    • @tomle2600
      @tomle2600 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Story Missions with speed tanking frigate really tough because of elites. You can just scout the path to the story mission system and make sure it’s camp free.

  • @reeddragon5250
    @reeddragon5250 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    can I use speed tanking with Nemesis?

    • @-wildspike-
      @-wildspike- 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, but 20% slower than a Hound (I'm 553 Frig, 54 AB)

    • @reeddragon5250
      @reeddragon5250 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@-wildspike- what module you use? Mwd or afterburn?

  • @ethienne
    @ethienne 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    waiting for the speed tanking hound pve video O_O, I'm working on making one for the same.

  • @SappyTedjajuwana
    @SappyTedjajuwana 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    omg... this video is soooo awesome.
    i was frustrated with my short range railgun.
    now its finally making sense lol.
    btw how is the calculation of 2 webifier application on 1 ship?
    my assumption is its 100% x 50% x 50%.
    not 100% x (50+50)%.
    so 2 webifier would put you down to roughly 25% speed.

    • @Excoundrel
      @Excoundrel  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it has a stacking penalty but I'm not 100% suren

    • @sahilchauhan544
      @sahilchauhan544 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes your assumptions is correct

  • @cerealvapist1801
    @cerealvapist1801 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been doing this for weeks in a kestrel

  • @phoneuser3569
    @phoneuser3569 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You did not explain the benifits of you webbing them while speed tanking.

    • @Excoundrel
      @Excoundrel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if you web frigates/destroyers you'll do more damage with turrets/missiles

  • @fruta6279
    @fruta6279 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like I am taking a physic class

  • @robiwisho7511
    @robiwisho7511 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmm

  • @synthblade
    @synthblade 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Took until you mentioned torpedos to realize this was for the mobile game, not the actual game. 🙄

  • @yogavardhang7721
    @yogavardhang7721 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First 😂

  • @bazkervillerouge750
    @bazkervillerouge750 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    KILL THE WEBS FIRST!!!