Just to be aware you want to close range orbit if you KNOW there are no webifiers to deal with. The closer you are the more effective your speed will be, I was just ranging as I was at 1.6km/s and outranging the autocannon optimal range and I was worried about webs
@@arthuryohanis it's not as effective vs missiles, missiles you may want to be further away to force the missiles to chase u. Good vs all turret type weapons
How would you know if there's a ship with a webifi ? If there's no way to know except to go in very close then wouldn't be that too late ? Or what cuz im thinking of getting the slasher interceptor for some pvp and if it's possible for pve advanced since i like frigates way more
Using a Condor II speed tank fit. i switch between faction missiles and faction torp depending on the rat faction: - against Blood Raiders in amarr space i can use torp for the additional damage (since they are armor tanks): their dictors use only nosferatus but doable. - against Angel Cartel in winmatar space, i use long range missiles (they are weak to missiles) because their E-War rats use webifiers. hard to do with torp speed tanking.
@10:45 worth noting for those watching and new to eve echoes is that if you rmain menu > settings > auto orbit are enabled you can choose an option to make that based on optimal range. Personally I prefer to have auto orbit turned off, then setting a default orbit distance via clicking on your ship to open it's radial menu and hold press on the set orbit option, this will then be the distance that is used when using the 'orbit' option from the filter list or top right ship icons. Worth noting is if you fleet up and the fleet leader/deputy issues an approach order, should you click it to follow the order this distance will now overwrite your default orbit distance you set forcing you to change it back in between fleet orders >_
What about a terrible room quality gang..man dont get depressed over there. I just started with no eve online experience and you seem to be ahead on things so... together with a pleasant style in making videos like this. Great Job, I hope you continue making content!
I started in the Kestrel, now in the Condor II. Loving it. Done one Elite T7 so far, but it was a bit edge of the seat stuff - Warp Scramblers are no joke! Won't try that again until I get the counter rig. Shield booster is definitely a better choice IMO. Running Discipline SMall missiles, but straight MK5 AB & SB. I read my book in T5 encounters and just look up for new waves and to watch the ISK roll in :)
@@CablesCodex Just kiting the NPCs. I have a max range around 22km (with skills). My orbit is set at 19km. With Afterburner active (which it always is) I travel now at around 1400m/s (again, with skills). In T7 (note not the elite ones - so 500K-1.5M ISK rewards) the actual threat is the FF & DD. Also, I am in Gallente space - I have noticed that when I get story missions in Caldari space the Caracal Navy Issue can be a complete pain in the butt that requires far more active play to tank. Hope that helps
Auto Orbit works Great Actually, particularly when running 0km orbits with snubs (drifting leaves you at 1km ish) but set it to (your) DEFAULT, rather than sorting itself... Which tbh seems like a complete waste 😆! Try running Inertia stab/Rig (I assume it will help against webbers, right?) and snubs at super close range and see how that works out. My favourite speed tank... Tristan with snubs, loving the drone assistance 😆! Oh and "Auto Attack Next Target" will keep your ship firing, "Nossing", webbing and droning in any close groups of reds! In tight orbit situations those Auto settings (default orbit - you set and attack next target) are a life saver and really helps clearing out the nests super quick! 🤣 I'm taking out T8s with my Tristan mate! 🥳
i run a nos on mine it is possible with better skills in frigate. Also it would be better to run torpedoes and orbit closer. Under there guns tracking. You are getting hit way to much at that rang. I hardly ever get hit. My build 2 Republic fleet torp (really cheap as well no one uses them) 1 web (slows target and allows for better hits) 1 nos ( keeps cap up) 1 Mk 5 afterburner (speed) 1 mk 5 shield booster (just in case) This build clears lvl 6 smalls no problem. orbit at 4-5 km keep afterburner on and blast away.
You would be surprised at how well web can perform in pve with this type of build. Also allows the opportunity to pop a neutral if they hop in you anomaly. Which I've done several times.
Hey brother, thanks so much for all the videos and for the Corp recommendation. I was having the same orbiting issue so I'm glad you figured that out. Would be nice to do a video like this but actually fit it with the cheap stuff and see how that plays out. I try to follow your builds and don't have enough money and end up having a lot less luck. Thanks again for the content!
My fittings for executioner 2: Top fittings (2imperial pulse lasers or mk5s) Mid: Nosferatu, webifier/warp disrupt. Low: shield booster and small mk5 afterburner. Why nosferatu? Always keep your shield boosters up and afterburners.
Also tip. Make your default orbit to 2-4km The ships will miss much more due to the stats of the guns they uses. Most pirate ships only use Mid-long range types of guns.
My full fit atron 2 with advanced frigate skills and a few rigs flies through gate camps. I'm warping by the time they lock. Accidental discovery today while picking up some items I hit a few systems with camps. Took 1 shot to shield that dropped it to 96% or so on a few but never got pinned.
Benzie runs missiles as approach instead of orbit so that you can keep max range or a little more since missile travel and explosion benefits from them heading towards you and you don't have to worry about orbit moving you too close to others.
Pro tip from a newb. Auto orbit is your friend here not your enemy. The problem you were having is you had auto orbit set to "optimal range" which for some god forsaken reason is "Close enough to read the expression off the enemy pilot's face" Instead - set auto orbit to "Default range" then set your ship's orbit to w/e you want. It will not auto orbit everything at that range.
Condor 2 can do t7 easily. shield booster is required. all missions are best done for Gallentes. It's AFK ratting. All rigs to increase the radius of the missiles. Fuel, missiles speed encrease.
You have 2 webs on a ship thats kitting outside of web range... the web slows down the enemy to apply more dmg against a slower ship aka explode velocity.
I totally understand your points btw and I definitely didn't include the best footage I was mostly trying to outrange webs as that is also a concern. I will show some pvp footage with close range orbit
@@Excoundrel OK we are talking about 2 different things... what I'm saying is speed tank works even when web by getting Closer... if your orbit is 4k instead of 2k you have to go 2x faster to get past the angular velocity needed to make turrets miss you. Bigger ships aka cruiser aka medium will miss around 600kmps and battle ships will miss even half the speed sooooo... basically by closing up on a small turret ship like a destroyer at 700mps that my condor can move i can negate 100% of its dmg kill it loose the web and procede to attack the bigger ships while never taking dmg you have to keep the orbit on the destroyer web within about 12k of a cruiser and 18k off a battle for the web to not matter. TRUE speed tank regardless of web or not. Im not sure it you follow what I mean. But basically thats why Close Range SnubNose range is like 1.5k with rokets the range doesn't matter.... they either hit or dont. Turets have optimal and then fall off and double falloff. And it all matters for them rokets what matter is how big and how fast because of explosion radius and explosion velocity. So webs are a dmg booster to rokets and a AIM helper to turrets. And yes sometimes it makes more sense to turn off a web drop your speed to half once under the turrets. Things we can't measure un echoes because we don't have enemy speed that I have been begging for. But it all works just the same cause when you have experience/memory of what ships do what you can guess and it does help. Again im horrid at getting a point across thou and sorry for the huge post its just I see you actually taking back almost 70% of everything you said here. Just try and make logic of how the Daredevil Works... with a Microwarp and supper web and think about how you turn off the micro when at 1.5k snubnose range.
@@PvPNecrash I've cut out some bits of the video that were misleading and I'm glad you've helped me out. I'm going to make a better video clarifying proper speed tanking :)
hey, i'm fitting condor2 atm and im wondering, if it wouldnt be better to get 1 velocity and 1 inertia rig instead of 2x velocity? is this choice viable at all or at least on some lower navigation skills?
Despite being faster, the lower range of the Condor II means you are more exposed, you have to keep constantly at less than 20km, if you´re doing Guristas rat, then you will need to be VERY careful with your tank and how you manage ranges. So my first recommendation is NOT to do Guristas (or any missile faction) on this ship, if you wanna do those rats, go for a Kestrel, trust me. Also I wouldn´t really recommend going for ballistic control on that low-slot, despite the higher dps and speed, you WILL have problems with tank. Notice how he did it, but only on a minmatar faction rat and only by using shiny mods, rigs and he got some good skill, but notice also that if he had been hit with another one he would be on armor really fast. My personal experience with minmatar and amarr rats is that your best bet is going VERY close range, and kill their webbers first. My personal recommendation for maximum efficiency is to go back to the Kestrel and try some T6 encounters, with the right fit, skills and some luck, its very doable, I got about 650k ticks doing it.
i agree with all of these points - it's better to be close range most of the time. Kestrel is more of a range tanking set up but I agree. condor is best for small scall pvp tackling imo
Great vid - thanks! Three questions though: 1. How significant is the penalty for fitting two identical thursters? Do you still get more speed than by fitting just one? If so, how much? 2. Missiles seem better than torpedoes for PvP, to 100% avoid webifiers. Would you agree with that? 3. For solo PvP, using missiles and being fast means you most likely won't need a webifier as you will orbit far to use it. What would you recommend instead? Second scrambler? Nothing? Thanks a lot and keep it up with the great content - you've become a first-class reference in no-time!
Do you mean the rigs? You lose 50% on the second rig afaik but it's still worth it 2. Depends, torpedoes are better if you are sure webifiers aren't an issue but missiles give you more flexibility tbh 3. You may as well use a Web + scrambler because of the flexibility of the setup. In Pvp you may want to orbit close and if they have a Web just warp out ASAP. In general the closer you orbit the safer you are as a speed tank but running missiles you can also run ranged orbit vs certain ships, especially those with short range weapons
Bro do u live in jita 👀 R.I.P trying to get through the gate every time u leave it 😂 P.s: we need more videos like this 😅 2. Flex alert at fittings 😛 3. The intro is much better now 😄 4. Thx for showing about auto orbit option .that's a problem I've been facing 😅now solved :)
I tried this, but fit torpedos and a nos/web in mid plus a shield rep in low. It's alright, but WHEN I get webbed I get fucked lol... going to try switching to the longer range missiles like you have here and try again. I have been able to speed tank T7 missions though I've had to warp out when webbed.
was this fit nerfed? i got the same weapons and more skill points than you but i only hit 99.48 DPS. I really don't understand, my only difference is that I'm using caldari NAvy small missiles but they got the same stats compared with your republic fleet.
When the beta was around I used to put a warp drive boster. I don't remember what it's called I think it's called that. I haven't played ina awhile. It was od quick 😅
Are you using a mouse and keyboard for Ipad? I’ve seen you use an iPad in other videos. I play EVE online on my PC and was wondering. I have a 2019 iPad.
I feel like my DPS is lacking a little bit I'm trying this and with current skills getting about 68 to 70 DPS. Is that low? Is that average? What should I be shooting for dps wise if I want to go get that sweet sweet null sec ratting isk?
Hey me from the past it's you from the future! So it turns out it was your skills that were lacking, after a couple more days of training you easily can hit 136 DPS. Make sure you are orbiting at 3 km instead of 20. And meltdown anything that webs you immediately. Oh and faction torpedo launchers aren't that expensive so go ahead and buy a couple. Happy flying you handsome devil!
Yes. I’m a frigate pilot that speed tanks. Virtually any frigate can technically speed tank. Just keep in mind that the tech 1 and 2 frigates May sacrifice other utilities. As a speed tank afterburner is a must. But to answer your question. The atron can speed tank. Yes. Although I wanna think it’s the slowest of the three basic frigates. The slasher being the fastest.
You mean the 25m isk T6 missions? Wondering the same thing. As speed tank number of ennemies does nit matter as much. But the elite could be a problem...anyone tried?
I tried but it takes super long and you need to warp in at 100km and kill couple of them when they approach. After you managed to damage or kill couple of them warp back and repeat. Sometimes there are too many so you need to warp from the other side. This works bc not all enemies attack only a couple of them approach and you can pick them up one by one. After that you can actually speed tank cruisers and battle cruisers. The problem is in t8 missions some battlecruiser are extremely fast which makes it difficult to pick the smaller ships. And they scramble sometimes. The best method is still with multiboxing and the 3min to 4 min window to kill them but still takes longer solo
@@miglob4403 Ha thanks for reply. So for the T6 I should be ok if I take it slow. But it is still a LOT of isk in the end sor probably worth every minutes of it.
@@sinmaan7568 Somewher on the net there is a display of all missions and what awaits you. So you kinda can do them bc i think only in the the 3rd and 4th are elites in it
I'm assuming you use a laptop and its internal microphone. If you do and you want to do another video, you could use your phones microphone and merge video and sound while editing. The audio quality of the phones microphone will be better. :)
They really need to fix this orbit bug.. this game right now has so many of these bugs that's kinda lame to play for real... Good video Excoundrel! thanks for the info!
You say it costs less than 2M, but the rigs alone are too expensive for this. You should do an average price for your personal build and same for the low cost build and do an example with that. I am pretty sure I'll lose my ship trying to figure out what I can actually take on with the fittings I can afford with 3M.
May be ez but it is slow as hell. Give me my 120mill Omen NI where I can just sit still at 5KM doing 1000-1800 volleys and destroy everything In sight while afk
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TIMESTAMPS:
[00:00] - Intro
[01:10] - Ship Description
[01:50] - Speed Tanking Description
[02:40] - Fittings: High Slots
[03:25] - Fittings: Mid Slots
[04:00] - Fittings: Low Slots
[05:00] - Fittings: Rigs
[05:30] - Skills Required
[06:40] - Ranged Speed Tanking in Action
Just to be aware you want to close range orbit if you KNOW there are no webifiers to deal with. The closer you are the more effective your speed will be, I was just ranging as I was at 1.6km/s and outranging the autocannon optimal range and I was worried about webs
so the closer it get the more effective speed tanking? it is effective against all type of weap?
@@arthuryohanis it's not as effective vs missiles, missiles you may want to be further away to force the missiles to chase u. Good vs all turret type weapons
How would you know if there's a ship with a webifi ? If there's no way to know except to go in very close then wouldn't be that too late ? Or what cuz im thinking of getting the slasher interceptor for some pvp and if it's possible for pve advanced since i like frigates way more
@@nyr1015 if you get webbed you should warp out and then re evaluate
@@Excoundrel so you have time to get out. alright thank you!
Easily the best speed tanking video on yt. Clear, concise explanation and the timestamps make this an excellent resource.
100% agreed
Using a Condor II speed tank fit. i switch between faction missiles and faction torp depending on the rat faction:
- against Blood Raiders in amarr space i can use torp for the additional damage (since they are armor tanks): their dictors use only nosferatus but doable.
- against Angel Cartel in winmatar space, i use long range missiles (they are weak to missiles) because their E-War rats use webifiers. hard to do with torp speed tanking.
Auto orbit settings! I've been wondering why my ship has been fighting me when i give it commands to orbit at max range.
I have it set up properly on my iPad but not on bluestacks
@10:45 worth noting for those watching and new to eve echoes is that if you rmain menu > settings > auto orbit are enabled you can choose an option to make that based on optimal range. Personally I prefer to have auto orbit turned off, then setting a default orbit distance via clicking on your ship to open it's radial menu and hold press on the set orbit option, this will then be the distance that is used when using the 'orbit' option from the filter list or top right ship icons. Worth noting is if you fleet up and the fleet leader/deputy issues an approach order, should you click it to follow the order this distance will now overwrite your default orbit distance you set forcing you to change it back in between fleet orders >_
What about a terrible room quality gang..man dont get depressed over there. I just started with no eve online experience and you seem to be ahead on things so... together with a pleasant style in making videos like this. Great Job, I hope you continue making content!
Thankyou man ❤️
That auto-obit issue made your guide even more informative. Thanks!
I started in the Kestrel, now in the Condor II. Loving it. Done one Elite T7 so far, but it was a bit edge of the seat stuff - Warp Scramblers are no joke! Won't try that again until I get the counter rig. Shield booster is definitely a better choice IMO. Running Discipline SMall missiles, but straight MK5 AB & SB. I read my book in T5 encounters and just look up for new waves and to watch the ISK roll in :)
Yo! How did you do T7?! I'm struggling with T5. Thanks for any tips.
@@CablesCodex Just kiting the NPCs. I have a max range around 22km (with skills). My orbit is set at 19km. With Afterburner active (which it always is) I travel now at around 1400m/s (again, with skills). In T7 (note not the elite ones - so 500K-1.5M ISK rewards) the actual threat is the FF & DD. Also, I am in Gallente space - I have noticed that when I get story missions in Caldari space the Caracal Navy Issue can be a complete pain in the butt that requires far more active play to tank. Hope that helps
Auto Orbit works Great Actually, particularly when running 0km orbits with snubs (drifting leaves you at 1km ish) but set it to (your) DEFAULT, rather than sorting itself... Which tbh seems like a complete waste 😆!
Try running Inertia stab/Rig (I assume it will help against webbers, right?) and snubs at super close range and see how that works out.
My favourite speed tank... Tristan with snubs, loving the drone assistance 😆!
Oh and "Auto Attack Next Target" will keep your ship firing, "Nossing", webbing and droning in any close groups of reds! In tight orbit situations those Auto settings (default orbit - you set and attack next target) are a life saver and really helps clearing out the nests super quick! 🤣
I'm taking out T8s with my Tristan mate! 🥳
i run a nos on mine it is possible with better skills in frigate. Also it would be better to run torpedoes and orbit closer. Under there guns tracking. You are getting hit way to much at that rang. I hardly ever get hit. My build
2 Republic fleet torp (really cheap as well no one uses them)
1 web (slows target and allows for better hits)
1 nos ( keeps cap up)
1 Mk 5 afterburner (speed)
1 mk 5 shield booster (just in case)
This build clears lvl 6 smalls no problem. orbit at 4-5 km keep afterburner on and blast away.
I think Web and disruptor good for pvp but nos would be good for pve
You would be surprised at how well web can perform in pve with this type of build. Also allows the opportunity to pop a neutral if they hop in you anomaly. Which I've done several times.
@@Fubar343 yeah I like webs especially for ensuring you kill the frigates in waves quickly
Also yeah agree on range, I think you want to close range speed tank most of the time 100%
How much isk you get in each anomaly run?
Hey brother, thanks so much for all the videos and for the Corp recommendation. I was having the same orbiting issue so I'm glad you figured that out. Would be nice to do a video like this but actually fit it with the cheap stuff and see how that plays out. I try to follow your builds and don't have enough money and end up having a lot less luck. Thanks again for the content!
Afterburner is most importsnt. You can do the cheap fit and it will be fine with t4-t5
@@Excoundrel Roger. Thanks 👍
What would we do without you?
Keep up the great work!
Probably be just fine, but speed tanking is hilariously fun
Been actually doing this build but on executioner 2 since.
Pretty fun.
My fittings for executioner 2:
Top fittings (2imperial pulse lasers or mk5s)
Mid: Nosferatu, webifier/warp disrupt.
Low: shield booster and small mk5 afterburner.
Why nosferatu? Always keep your shield boosters up and afterburners.
Also tip.
Make your default orbit to 2-4km
The ships will miss much more due to the stats of the guns they uses.
Most pirate ships only use Mid-long range types of guns.
My full fit atron 2 with advanced frigate skills and a few rigs flies through gate camps. I'm warping by the time they lock. Accidental discovery today while picking up some items I hit a few systems with camps. Took 1 shot to shield that dropped it to 96% or so on a few but never got pinned.
Benzie runs missiles as approach instead of orbit so that you can keep max range or a little more since missile travel and explosion benefits from them heading towards you and you don't have to worry about orbit moving you too close to others.
Yeah that's range kiting, very effective, with speed kiting you want to maintain velocity in an orbit
Yes, and with the bonus range from the Kestrel, it's pretty easy to out range most ships before about rank 6 anomoly.
definitely gonna set auto default range for missiles. auto optimal range gonna messed up the strategy.
Pro tip from a newb.
Auto orbit is your friend here not your enemy. The problem you were having is you had auto orbit set to "optimal range" which for some god forsaken reason is "Close enough to read the expression off the enemy pilot's face"
Instead - set auto orbit to "Default range" then set your ship's orbit to w/e you want. It will not auto orbit everything at that range.
Yes that was the problem, and yes this works in my experience.
Condor 2 can do t7 easily.
shield booster is required.
all missions are best done for Gallentes. It's AFK ratting.
All rigs to increase the radius of the missiles. Fuel, missiles speed encrease.
The orbiting is not a bug, its a setting under Battle Settings under Auto-orbit target.
Yeah I fixed it during the video don't worry
@@Excoundrel Yeah sorry responded before I got to that part lol, thanks for the response.
You have 2 webs on a ship thats kitting outside of web range... the web slows down the enemy to apply more dmg against a slower ship aka explode velocity.
Webs are more for pvp or approaching frigates
You don't want to get webbed yourself :)
I totally understand your points btw and I definitely didn't include the best footage I was mostly trying to outrange webs as that is also a concern. I will show some pvp footage with close range orbit
@@Excoundrel OK we are talking about 2 different things... what I'm saying is speed tank works even when web by getting Closer... if your orbit is 4k instead of 2k you have to go 2x faster to get past the angular velocity needed to make turrets miss you. Bigger ships aka cruiser aka medium will miss around 600kmps and battle ships will miss even half the speed sooooo... basically by closing up on a small turret ship like a destroyer at 700mps that my condor can move i can negate 100% of its dmg kill it loose the web and procede to attack the bigger ships while never taking dmg you have to keep the orbit on the destroyer web within about 12k of a cruiser and 18k off a battle for the web to not matter. TRUE speed tank regardless of web or not. Im not sure it you follow what I mean. But basically thats why Close Range SnubNose range is like 1.5k with rokets the range doesn't matter.... they either hit or dont. Turets have optimal and then fall off and double falloff. And it all matters for them rokets what matter is how big and how fast because of explosion radius and explosion velocity. So webs are a dmg booster to rokets and a AIM helper to turrets. And yes sometimes it makes more sense to turn off a web drop your speed to half once under the turrets. Things we can't measure un echoes because we don't have enemy speed that I have been begging for. But it all works just the same cause when you have experience/memory of what ships do what you can guess and it does help. Again im horrid at getting a point across thou and sorry for the huge post its just I see you actually taking back almost 70% of everything you said here. Just try and make logic of how the Daredevil Works... with a Microwarp and supper web and think about how you turn off the micro when at 1.5k snubnose range.
@@PvPNecrash I've cut out some bits of the video that were misleading and I'm glad you've helped me out. I'm going to make a better video clarifying proper speed tanking :)
You could set your warp at like 40-50 km out. Might eliminate the early damage
hey, i'm fitting condor2 atm and im wondering, if it wouldnt be better to get 1 velocity and 1 inertia rig instead of 2x velocity? is this choice viable at all or at least on some lower navigation skills?
Will this work with gallente frigates too ? Minmatar slasher ?
Atron 2 with, stubs "dealers", warp dis, nos, afterburner and armor repair. 2km orbit at 1500m/s no problems doing tier 6s and pvp.
Yep you can easily do it in an atron, just gotta be careful of webs
what are stubs"dealers" and nos? im new to the game, need to learn the abreviations
@@expert19370 snub nosed rail guns, dealer afterburner and energy nosferstus
@@expert19370 Stubnose railguns the "dealers" faction ones, and a energy Nosferatu.
I fly an Atron 2. I prefer to orbit the closest I can, even if I get webbed, the snub nosed railguns make quick work of them.
Despite being faster, the lower range of the Condor II means you are more exposed, you have to keep constantly at less than 20km, if you´re doing Guristas rat, then you will need to be VERY careful with your tank and how you manage ranges. So my first recommendation is NOT to do Guristas (or any missile faction) on this ship, if you wanna do those rats, go for a Kestrel, trust me.
Also I wouldn´t really recommend going for ballistic control on that low-slot, despite the higher dps and speed, you WILL have problems with tank. Notice how he did it, but only on a minmatar faction rat and only by using shiny mods, rigs and he got some good skill, but notice also that if he had been hit with another one he would be on armor really fast.
My personal experience with minmatar and amarr rats is that your best bet is going VERY close range, and kill their webbers first.
My personal recommendation for maximum efficiency is to go back to the Kestrel and try some T6 encounters, with the right fit, skills and some luck, its very doable, I got about 650k ticks doing it.
Youre talking about t6 small right?
@@erickcontreras8324 Im talking the 700k t6 encounter, not combat site, not sure if it was small.
i agree with all of these points - it's better to be close range most of the time. Kestrel is more of a range tanking set up but I agree. condor is best for small scall pvp tackling imo
Great vid - thanks! Three questions though:
1. How significant is the penalty for fitting two identical thursters? Do you still get more speed than by fitting just one? If so, how much?
2. Missiles seem better than torpedoes for PvP, to 100% avoid webifiers. Would you agree with that?
3. For solo PvP, using missiles and being fast means you most likely won't need a webifier as you will orbit far to use it. What would you recommend instead? Second scrambler? Nothing?
Thanks a lot and keep it up with the great content - you've become a first-class reference in no-time!
Do you mean the rigs? You lose 50% on the second rig afaik but it's still worth it
2. Depends, torpedoes are better if you are sure webifiers aren't an issue but missiles give you more flexibility tbh
3. You may as well use a Web + scrambler because of the flexibility of the setup. In Pvp you may want to orbit close and if they have a Web just warp out ASAP.
In general the closer you orbit the safer you are as a speed tank but running missiles you can also run ranged orbit vs certain ships, especially those with short range weapons
@@Excoundrel Awesome, thank you very much, crystal clear! All the best and hope to see you someday IG :)
How is this for t7 story missions and encounters?
Awesome! I pulled off a T7 with Condor II. Once the webbers are gone, the rest are at your mercy.
Bro do u live in jita 👀 R.I.P trying to get through the gate every time u leave it 😂
P.s: we need more videos like this 😅
2. Flex alert at fittings 😛
3. The intro is much better now 😄
4. Thx for showing about auto orbit option .that's a problem I've been facing 😅now solved :)
I live in jita but need to move everything eventually!!!
High market fluctuations in the beginnings, good to trade in Jita.
i want jita as my base, but its really laggy and i prefer going to alikara is better.
@@Excoundrel come to pator or nakugard
Why the status webifier? I did not see you make use of them in the video.
It's for pvp, you don't need them but its worth having for pvp situations or if you need to slow an elite npc down
@@Excoundrel Thanks for the explanation
I tried this, but fit torpedos and a nos/web in mid plus a shield rep in low. It's alright, but WHEN I get webbed I get fucked lol... going to try switching to the longer range missiles like you have here and try again. I have been able to speed tank T7 missions though I've had to warp out when webbed.
this fit after week is worth +/- 20M isk.daaam.
The ship and the fits it self are cheap, but the rigs are difference stories lol
The damn rig worth so much ISK and some are not in the market ngghhh
That was a hard riddle but I think the answer is that the ship has to be FAST..... perhaps 😝
was this fit nerfed? i got the same weapons and more skill points than you but i only hit 99.48 DPS. I really don't understand, my only difference is that I'm using caldari NAvy small missiles but they got the same stats compared with your republic fleet.
When the beta was around I used to put a warp drive boster. I don't remember what it's called I think it's called that. I haven't played ina awhile. It was od quick 😅
Are you using a mouse and keyboard for Ipad? I’ve seen you use an iPad in other videos. I play EVE online on my PC and was wondering. I have a 2019 iPad.
Could you please talk about drones like the vexor or VNI for pve
hey, will you be producing more videos on other cruisers? besides caracal
Yes working on moa right now then vexor omen and thorax
@@Excoundrel lovely , you will cover two of three i am aiiming atm (vexor and thorax) . best wishes!
I feel like my DPS is lacking a little bit I'm trying this and with current skills getting about 68 to 70 DPS. Is that low? Is that average? What should I be shooting for dps wise if I want to go get that sweet sweet null sec ratting isk?
Hey me from the past it's you from the future! So it turns out it was your skills that were lacking, after a couple more days of training you easily can hit 136 DPS. Make sure you are orbiting at 3 km instead of 20. And meltdown anything that webs you immediately.
Oh and faction torpedo launchers aren't that expensive so go ahead and buy a couple.
Happy flying you handsome devil!
@@ianyboo da fuq?
My orbit has done that for the last week. I shut off auto orbit and just set it manually every time.
Its pretty buggy I reckon
whats the best pc emulator to use?
(Maybe a newb) Question: Could you make this work with small lasers or would the closer range get you in trouble with webbing?
You can make it work with any weapons but you have to be careful of webbing range for sure
You could run a tracking computer, that should give you enough range to kill the web ships.
@@Excoundrel Thanks, appreciate the reply and the videos. From a (somewhat) complete Eve newbie, they are super helpful.
@@memitim171 Thanks Mem! I'll look into tracking computers for sure.
Could you use an Atron 2 for the same purpose
Yes. I’m a frigate pilot that speed tanks. Virtually any frigate can technically speed tank. Just keep in mind that the tech 1 and 2 frigates May sacrifice other utilities. As a speed tank afterburner is a must. But to answer your question. The atron can speed tank. Yes. Although I wanna think it’s the slowest of the three basic frigates. The slasher being the fastest.
do those mech rigs stack?
I do not have advanced skills as an alpha clone and no rigs so speed and dps(60) is a bit low.. Am I going to fail in speed tanking against T5 rats?
Da fuk u mean that was a stellar intro
it is something wrong a had orbit on 30km but it kept flying to 0
Will this work with guns? (Lasers, hybrid)
Will work in any fast ship :)
which is the best ship,caracal or this ship?
Caracal in general, this is just a cheap option :)
thanks bro for the option
Can you do a video on artefacts. Continue with the good work
Can you solo mission arks with this?
You mean the 25m isk T6 missions? Wondering the same thing. As speed tank number of ennemies does nit matter as much. But the elite could be a problem...anyone tried?
I tried but it takes super long and you need to warp in at 100km and kill couple of them when they approach. After you managed to damage or kill couple of them warp back and repeat. Sometimes there are too many so you need to warp from the other side.
This works bc not all enemies attack only a couple of them approach and you can pick them up one by one.
After that you can actually speed tank cruisers and battle cruisers.
The problem is in t8 missions some battlecruiser are extremely fast which makes it difficult to pick the smaller ships.
And they scramble sometimes. The best method is still with multiboxing and the 3min to 4 min window to kill them but still takes longer solo
@@miglob4403 Ha thanks for reply. So for the T6 I should be ok if I take it slow. But it is still a LOT of isk in the end sor probably worth every minutes of it.
@@sinmaan7568 Somewher on the net there is a display of all missions and what awaits you. So you kinda can do them bc i think only in the the 3rd and 4th are elites in it
3:35 😁 that's not your capacitor, that's your power grid 😎, needed to fit modules.
capacitor is used to activate modules.
Hehe sorry similar things in my head
Dude says "Haych Pee" better than anyone.
LOL FFS
I'm assuming you use a laptop and its internal microphone. If you do and you want to do another video, you could use your phones microphone and merge video and sound while editing. The audio quality of the phones microphone will be better. :)
I can try it next time
why did you stop the tft content?
Waiting for set 4, burnt out on set 3
I dont think my character has the skills to do that. As an alpha clone level 5 of a skill takes like 4 days to train. Kinda bananas.
*cough* ISK-->plex
How are you playing on pc?
Nox emulator
Hi how to zoom in and our on bluestacks
Arrow keys I'm usingn
They really need to fix this orbit bug.. this game right now has so many of these bugs that's kinda lame to play for real...
Good video Excoundrel! thanks for the info!
Lol just turn off auto orbit in settings. Noob
Why does the layout of your game look completely different
Nice!!!!
Used this ship in nullsec against T7 anoms and suddenly a cruor warps in and blast me to oblivion
It's not good vs other frigates
Someone in my corp had the same orbit issue
You say it costs less than 2M, but the rigs alone are too expensive for this. You should do an average price for your personal build and same for the low cost build and do an example with that. I am pretty sure I'll lose my ship trying to figure out what I can actually take on with the fittings I can afford with 3M.
I was only doing a t5, i am using this fit for a pvp video too but yeah I will do another video using a cheaper fit
@@Excoundrel What do you think I can take on with just the MK5 missiles, webifiers, booster, and MK5 afterburner? No rigs. Would T4 be difficult?
@@kwazzi9911 nah t4 easily and if you get good at knowing when to range and when to go close you can do T6 easily
@@Excoundrel Awesome. Thank you for the responses.
Those rigs got super expensive since this video
it's paper good, web can destroy speed tank in seconds
I love this ship for killing miners 😂
So what I get from your video, is your one of "those" guys that pirate other people ratting or mining?
I mean. It is part of the game. Everyone has their way of playing. I’m a mercenary. I pirate and kill with a price.
its okay :)
Would rather read than watch a long drawn out video. But there is monetization putting it in print.
I see that corp link... giving me more work.. lol welcome everyone.. if you decide to join up.
You shouldn't advertise an open corp alliance if you all aren't actually open to new corps. Smh.
stop zooming in and out 10times in a sec
The yellow bar in fitting is power grid, not capacitor. Why rave about it being a cheap build then demo it with 12mil worth of modules?
Title says under 2 million, then the dude lolcopters you into a 14 million afterburner. joke vid
May be ez but it is slow as hell.
Give me my 120mill Omen NI where I can just sit still at 5KM doing 1000-1800 volleys and destroy everything In sight while afk