3:13 Gouges, scrapers and coring: 300 grit. Skews and Parting tools; 600 grit. Now I just have to look up Skews and Parting tools. 😄, I think I know what scrapers and coring bits are. 3:35 Sharpen for a few seconds, and stop every few minutes of lathe-work and do a quick re-touchup. 4:16 Carbide tools, even easier. My first Lathe comes later this week.
I appreciate this advice. When I was a noobie, I bought the jig contraption, but I was bothered by the loss of so much steel - especially as a beginner. Initially one is practicing on one’s own, costly tools. I would not do it again. This approach just makes so much more sense.
Makes perfect sense to me! I just bought several Sorby turning tools and a grinder is the perfect way to shorten their lives if used incorrectly. Thanks for the tip!!!
4:16 Carbide cutters. It just takes ''a few seconds'' to touch up the edge of carbide cutters. Should we stop every few minutes of lathe-work and re-sharpen them also, or would we do the sharpening of them a bit less often between touchups?
As anew turner I appreciate the tips. I just ordered a card to sharpen my carbides. I was hesitant to buy standard chisels because of the cost of sharpening.
I turn a lot and i hone every few minutes as suggest. I learned this from a number of professional turners including Alan Lacer. However, I am going to the grinder at least once or twice per day on bowl gouges.
Just found your post. You sharpen a lot through your turning. I would like to see the TH-cam demonstrators to show when they sharpen while turning. This would give the amateur woodturner like myself a better understanding as to when to sharpen their tools.
@@beebob1279 I think you mean "amateur" woodturner, unless every time you see a long hard piece of wood you giggle, then you probably do mean immature ;P
Just searched for sharpening without a grinder as I mess up big time without a jig on it. This is great info for those inbetween times when the gouges are just a touch slow in cutting.
I'm ready to Chuck my slow speed bench grinder. Even with all the jigs it gives me irregular edges. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. I'm glad you showed a good alternative. Thank you.
I have been using the kit since it came out, I Love It! But when CBN cards were avalable in pocket size I use it instead because I didn't like damp pockets in my turning smocks from the lapping fluid. It also looked strange after a day of turning and I had dust and small chips stuck to my left chest of my smock.
Diamond hones are OK, but CBN (cubic boron nitride) has some advantages. CBN is cheaper, wears better than diamond hones, and doesn't load up (you can use it with or without lubricant). I went to CBN wheels on my grinder a couple of years ago, replacing the friable wheels like the ones on your grinder. I waste a lot less steel, there's no dust in the air from the wheels, and my tools have never been sharper!
Gerald's advice is good, but only for high speed steel. For high carbon tool steels or for mild steel (like most lawnmower blades), you still want to use a friable wheel.
CBN can also be used to touch up your carbide tools as well. I have a separate, older grinder with friable wheels that I use for lawnmower blades, etc.
For a while they seemed to have a manufacturing issue. But they have it solved, now. I got a dozen of them to test (to decide if I could continue to recommend them) and they were all perfectly flat.
Maybe, but I like the idea of just picking up the card and just touching up the edge fast right at the lathe. It's not hard to hold the tool. Sometimes I put the handle under my arm for extra steadiness.
I covered lapping fluid vs. water in a separate video ( th-cam.com/video/zBND6emsSE4/w-d-xo.html ) However, others claim to have used water for many years. I have never used water, so I can not personally confirm any ill effects from it's use. So use what works best for you.
If you like, I'll design a jig to hold the diamond card with a micro-adjustable t-track enabled wooden gear box. Just give me six sheets of Baltic birch plywood and a month to make the plans!
Then how do they get sharpened? I wasn't allowed as a kid to sharpen the lathe tools when I tinkered in dad's garage. But he would sharpen them. Unfortunately, now I don't know how.
3:13 Gouges, scrapers and coring: 300 grit.
Skews and Parting tools; 600 grit.
Now I just have to look up Skews and
Parting tools. 😄, I think I know what
scrapers and coring bits are.
3:35 Sharpen for a few seconds, and
stop every few minutes of lathe-work
and do a quick re-touchup.
4:16 Carbide tools, even easier.
My first Lathe
comes later this week.
I appreciate this advice. When I was a noobie, I bought the jig contraption, but I was bothered by the loss of so much steel - especially as a beginner. Initially one is practicing on one’s own, costly tools. I would not do it again.
This approach just makes so much more sense.
Makes perfect sense to me! I just bought several Sorby turning tools and a grinder is the perfect way to shorten their lives if used incorrectly. Thanks for the tip!!!
4:16 Carbide cutters.
It just takes ''a few seconds'' to touch
up the edge of carbide cutters. Should
we stop every few minutes of lathe-work
and re-sharpen them also, or would we do the
sharpening of them a bit less often between
touchups?
As anew turner I appreciate the tips. I just ordered a card to sharpen my carbides. I was hesitant to buy standard chisels because of the cost of sharpening.
You make it look so easy, Stumpy!
Thank you. I am just beginning, this seems very effective and efficient. Looked at CBN wheels not in my budget.
Again thank you!
What about brand new tools? Will this work or do I need to have them shaped on a grinder? A bench grinder just isn't in my budget right now.
I bought this kit and it works great!!
I turn a lot and i hone every few minutes as suggest. I learned this from a number of professional turners including Alan Lacer. However, I am going to the grinder at least once or twice per day on bowl gouges.
Just found your post. You sharpen a lot through your turning. I would like to see the TH-cam demonstrators to show when they sharpen while turning. This would give the amateur woodturner like myself a better understanding as to when to sharpen their tools.
@@beebob1279 I think you mean "amateur" woodturner, unless every time you see a long hard piece of wood you giggle, then you probably do mean immature ;P
@@Shrimp_Insurance Ooops, you're right. I'll edit my response. Thanks for the quick check.
Just searched for sharpening without a grinder as I mess up big time without a jig on it. This is great info for those inbetween times when the gouges are just a touch slow in cutting.
thanks, I will be starting turning soon you saved me a ton of money with this method.
I'm ready to Chuck my slow speed bench grinder. Even with all the jigs it gives me irregular edges. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. I'm glad you showed a good alternative. Thank you.
thanks that`s great I have been sharpening my pen mills wrong, I was doing the same as the Forstner bit and it didn`t last.
I have been using the kit since it came out, I Love It! But when CBN cards were avalable in pocket size I use it instead because I didn't like damp pockets in my turning smocks from the lapping fluid. It also looked strange after a day of turning and I had dust and small chips stuck to my left chest of my smock.
Diamond hones are OK, but CBN (cubic boron nitride) has some advantages. CBN is cheaper, wears better than diamond hones, and doesn't load up (you can use it with or without lubricant). I went to CBN wheels on my grinder a couple of years ago, replacing the friable wheels like the ones on your grinder. I waste a lot less steel, there's no dust in the air from the wheels, and my tools have never been sharper!
Thanks for the tip!
Gerald's advice is good, but only for high speed steel. For high carbon tool steels or for mild steel (like most lawnmower blades), you still want to use a friable wheel.
CBN can also be used to touch up your carbide tools as well. I have a separate, older grinder with friable wheels that I use for lawnmower blades, etc.
@@DKWalser Obviously a difference between the two metals.
Can't find my diamond pads so I grabbed a spare green compound strop (with rigid backing) and actually it's not bad, just need to keep doing it
nice video Mr Nubs, thank you for posting.
Really enjoy your videos. Entertaining and practical.
But who's this James Hamilton imposter? What happened to Stumpy?
Was looking at the current reviews for the trend hones, did the quality turn to garbage over the years? is there a better set?
For a while they seemed to have a manufacturing issue. But they have it solved, now. I got a dozen of them to test (to decide if I could continue to recommend them) and they were all perfectly flat.
do you still sharpen your turning tools this way? thanks
I touch up the tools at the lathe this way so I have to sharpen less frequently at the Grinder or Tormek.
I like how you always answer my questions in a simple, professional and straight video. So much useless talk out there.
Great instruction, thanks again!
Sharpening tool is important business!
seems like it would help to put the turning tool in a vise
Maybe, but I like the idea of just picking up the card and just touching up the edge fast right at the lathe. It's not hard to hold the tool. Sometimes I put the handle under my arm for extra steadiness.
thank you very much
What is the advantage of the lapping fluid vs water or diluted simple green?
I covered lapping fluid vs. water in a separate video ( th-cam.com/video/zBND6emsSE4/w-d-xo.html ) However, others claim to have used water for many years. I have never used water, so I can not personally confirm any ill effects from it's use. So use what works best for you.
@@StumpyNubs Glad to see you didn't say, 'it's my way or the highway'. Shows you're flexible with other opinions.
No jigs!? No fuss!? What did I come here for then!?😂🤣
If you like, I'll design a jig to hold the diamond card with a micro-adjustable t-track enabled wooden gear box. Just give me six sheets of Baltic birch plywood and a month to make the plans!
Stumpy Nubs done! Fussiness here I come
Jeremiah's woodworks í
I learnt this from cap'n Eddie Castelin a long time ago
Congratulations.
I have some very nice lathe chisels and I was terrified to sharpen them and don’t dare touch them to the grinder
Then how do they get sharpened? I wasn't allowed as a kid to sharpen the lathe tools when I tinkered in dad's garage. But he would sharpen them. Unfortunately, now I don't know how.
Bee Bob I sharpen mine by hand with wetstones
@@JustinTopp that's how dad did it.
Bee Bob it’s the best way in my opinion. Slow but easily razor sharp and your not grinding your tools away so fast
throw away all your expensive Tormeks no need for them anymore !
You missed the point of the video. Watch again.
@@StumpyNubs That's my new reply to most of what my girlfriend says now. Well put.
Lol, this is her account
I'ma watch the video again