The small benchtop Wen lathe is doing th-cam.com/users/postUgkxKGVtPhqZBB5AQXXFlU2kdd4mQhO6wlhl just what it was desighed to do, turn small pieces. This product is workig very well in wood and plastics, I wouldn't recommend any metal turning on it though. Overall from an old tool guy, I highly recommend this lathe as long as you realize that this is for small turning only. I bought this a few weeks ago and have noticed the price has gone from $174. to $249. Might want to get one sooner than later.
As someone with a full fledged wood shop the lathe is its own beast. I have never bought another tool that needed an entire tool chest worth of accessories to fully enjoy
I definitely appreciate how you highlight a seemingly simple buy is basically never a simple buy nor a cheap one. A lot of TH-camrs leave that part out because they forget they've spent thousands on tools, equipment and the accessories that go with them. Great video!
This is a valuable addition to my woodwork collection th-cam.com/users/postUgkxbnOKZBE4evMO5V2vroHeCjq6d_MV6wJO I still will rate this woodwork plan as the best in my reference library. It always seem to stand out from the rest whenever you go through the library. This is a masterpiece.
#10 was spot on. The lathe really is the cheapest part when you start off. Lol. That’s why they call it the rabbit hole. It’s a never ending expense to turn wood……but worth every penny.
I've basically been teaching myself how to turn. My father gets the basics and he taught me, but he's not a professional. I really needed this! Thank you!
So I put my mom on my flimsy lathe stand like you suggested, didn’t work she vibrated off, urn broke, now she’s all mixed up with wood shavings and floor dust.
The nice UPS man brought me my first lathe last week and I'm looking forward to unboxing it. Or at least I was... TIA for helping reduce the number of mistakes I'm going to make. Great vid! Aloha
Hey thanks for the to the point video. Just bought a lathe (Grizzly Lathe) for my 15 year old son but at this point I’m also excited to use it also. Just getting it set up now and this is helpful for setting us up for success. Yay!!
You do a great job showing the devil in the details with a good sense of humor! I appreciate your style! I have a lathe in my barn, and now understand the mushroom effect in costs to achieve a good finished effect. Thank you!
I've been blacksmithing for about 30 years and finally decided to get into wood turning. I have a local wood store that has some jet lathes. I'm getting the JET JWL-1221VS tomorrow. I'll have to make a wood turning work bench for it. I can't wait to get it all up and running.
This man is one cool dude. Really enjoyed the video! As a metal worker - lathe and milling background - can empathise with many of the points raised here.
Thanks: a really cool video. As a retired metalworking engineer converting to wood turning is a revelation. No dust from mild steel, but wood? That’s another dimension!
entertaining as well as educational ...been turning on manual / turret / cnc lathes for decades but now retired and having recently purchased a wood lathe with applicable tooling I'm now a novice and gathering all the info I can to produce a quality turning....safely . Thanks !
I was given a Jet 1221 just short of when they came out, and I wish I was told these 10 things when I started years ago. Anyone new to turning listen up, this is spot on! Pine is useless to practice on. Sanding in reverse is good and has it's times, yet sanding with the grain is imperative. Bowls are where it's at so get a lathe with more swing than length, your tool rests will be more forgiving. As for vibration true in lower speeds, keep sharp tools and, "mount it to the house if you can, otherwise cast it in concrete". Every cut of wood is different, why use your face to learn that. It's a lot cheaper to protect than restore, lungs aren't free. The tools are costly, so look into making your own. Never sleep on a chuck and carbide tools, they can do almost everything without breaking the bank. Hope y'all turning projects TURN out well ;)
Wow what a great video. Thank you... I had a nice old manual mill... Never used it. Traded it for an old Rockwell/delta from 1959. Came with so many tools and chucks and what not ... I've learned a lot already and am well on my way.
I am getting back into lathe work now at 50. The last time I turned was in high school shop and I enjoyed it for that semester. ( in other words no experience) My wife of 13 years and friend to this day often got mad at me saying, " quit talking about it and do it". "You have always worked so hard and never have done something for yourself like that". 2018 to 2020 was a rough time for me. I was in the fight for my life literally against the big C. My last surgery was in December of 2019 and in January 2020 I was told I was in remission! I must say that it changed my perspective in a big way. I took out a loan and got myself a jet 1221vs, g4 chuck pen mandrel, buffing wheels, slow speed grinder, band saw, table saw, planer, jigs clamps and all that including the others in your video. I also think I have the same set of starter tools that you do! I have tried a few different woods (pine being the first) but wanted to make these awesome bowls and fancy stuff. I started with first bowl (which is still sitting idle on the lathe after two months) with ash 2x8 glued together. I am now afraid of the dang thing, and very frustrated. I will no longer touch a skew chisel as I think it is a widow maker with catch. I know I am going on and on and I am sorry for that but I want you to know how much I like your video and it again gives me hope and excitement. I know that after turning a dozen Rockler slimline pen kits I was not ready to move on to harder stuff, but I did anyways. I have been searching for two months now on what wood to learn and hone the basic skills and have been so overwhelmed I quit searching deciding I am just going to cut up some 2x4 pine and do that after we get the crops in and things slow down. Thank you so much for this video and your time in making it and sharing it! Super like and subscribed as you give me hope and something to try. I have exhausted my searches here in south Dakota for a club as the nearest one is south 3 1/2 hours or north Dakota 4 hours. I know hands on help would be the best though it is not available in rural SD or even Aberdeen SD which is only 80 miles away. Again sorry so sappy and wordy, I just want you to know how much this video means to me. Thank you Sir. God Bless and I hope you and yours are all in good health and doing well.
Congrats! I'm very happy to hear you beat it and are in remission and chasing a very very long dream. You've probably found them.. but a few folks I can recommend for turning are Ashley Hardwood and Carl Jacobson. They're both here on TH-cam and have some really helpful content. I'm with you on the skew though.. it's a total nightmare until you've clocked the hours to get the feel of it (which I haven't). I recently switched to carbide and have to saw for finalizing details I definitely prefer them. There's much less of a learning curve with them. Personally I really like maple to turn. It's closed grain, hard enough that you can't accidentally get carried away, but soft enough to turn easy. Hope some of that helps and thanks so much for watching and subscribing and your kind words. Comments like yours go an extraordinary way in keeping me motivated to keep doing this. God bless.
Garry not Linda. I know I'm late to the party here but for you and anyone else reading these comments, park that skew in a drawer and leave it there for about five years and work on smaller projects with the other tools you have. Go back to basic practice cutting beads and coves until you're sick of them. Good video producers to add to your favorites are Alan Stratton at As Wood Turns, Mike Peace and Mike Waldt. Go through their archives there's a gold mine of turning information in them. Mike Peace has several free handouts for turning pill boxes, coffee scoops and other easy projects on his website. Stay away from pine and cedar for turning stick to hardwoods like maple, ash and oak which are usually reasonably priced. Check with a tree trimmer/arborist in your area and watch for downed or damaged trees. You can usually get some nice pieces just for carrying them away. Last summer I got some nice branches from a silver maple that is less than a block from my house. I still have to turn a piece from that stuff to give to the lady where I got the wood. Get a diamond card or block to touch up your edges between grindings. Stumpy Nubs has several videos on those. I'm using a 6" grinder also but I've also learned finesse. Light passes. I bought the Wolverine system but I'm not that infatuated with it. Since I have it I'll use it. Check Eddie Castelin's hack for making your own bowl gouge sharpener to save a few bucks. Hope that helps.
Thank you for the tips! Even though we are in a "tropical" country, with forests and trees in many places, it is not easy to find "turnable" wood. It is very frustrating trying to turn any wood. I'm also having problems with cracks in the wood, even after drying... would you have any tips? We work with sculptures, and these are cracking after being painted... it's really bad. Any help would be very good. Sorry for the English, but I used a translator. Good job!
Thank you so much for this video. I love it as much or more than your other videos. Over one year ago I took a loan out after my fight with cancer. I have always loved the idea of lathe turning; however it took me from high school until the age of 50 to do something for myself that always seemed frivolous in my day to day financial responsibilities. I do not want to discourage others that could not do what I did; however I do own all of the tools you have mentioned and more after the loan. I hope to pay off. I went through some set backs in life with family health and have put it aside, as well as some very scary catches when trying different types of wood. The chisel is my nightmare! I can not find any clubs or training near me in South Dakota, but still have the passion to make things. I dream of making gifts for family and friends, I just do not know where to turn to pursue this dream. My first purchase was the jet vs1221. I know it is capable of what I want to do, I just have become so frustrated not being able to do what I want to do. I thank you as I am going to order kits (other than pens, as I think I have those down to the finish at this point). Is there on online step by step from beginning to end you can recommend for me so I can learn more? I have a poor man project of hardwood on my lathe that has now been many months since I turned it on because of my frustration. I am sorry this is so lengthy but it comes from my heart as in 6 days I go in for my tests to find out if I am still cancer free and it weighs heavy on my heart in breaking my promise to myself to live and do what makes me happy. Thank you, Sincerely. Glen Fitch aka Jeff Smith.
Quite an amazing story sir! I pray your tests come back clean. I’ve yet to master the skew chisel as well.. If it’s giving you trouble, I’d recommend just setting it aside and spend more time with gouges - or go with carbide. As far as guides I can’t think of any. But I do recommend Carl Jacobson. He’s an amazing turner and has done a bunch of live shows where he turns something beginning to end. And he’s good about talking through what he does. Hope that helps sir.
I'm trying to learn a little bit of woodworking but I only have pine and woodworking chisels. I am having the tearout issue. Is it just the wood or the chisel too?
You just about talked me out of buying a lathe. Very informative video. Woodturning is like 3D printing, after you've made a bunch of pens and pepper mills, and a big mess, what now? I don't think I can afford to go down this rabbit hole.
There's a reason you can find so many full turning set ups on Facebook Marketplace. You either get sucked down the rabbit hole and it's a life long passion, or it's part of a shop that you use when a project requires, or you dabble.. get to the "well, I tried that and it was fun but doing the same thing over and over ain't for me" and it sits 'till you sell it.
Your humour is as dry as the wood that gets turned, love it 😊 got a new subscriber mate, cheers from Australia 🇦🇺 where it’s dryer than a dead dingo’s donga 😎
"Forgetting the Other Expenses" section: the story of my last year. But finding that part of the fun. I'm in a major city, but found there are used equipment dealers that have every part or tool you can think of at discounted prices. Great video.
Thanks for the heads-up! I'm not into wood turning, but I did get a set of turning chisels and made a tool post for my metal lathe so I can use it for the occasional project. Good tips, now I have to find a video on how to use all those different chisels properly ;)
Really good video. I recently set up my old lathe and just wanted to look at some refresher material for safety etc. Thanks for making this, I'm jealous ya got some nice tools yo 👍👍
For pratice wood, I have a prevlage od working with sheet metal, and they use oak and things to tie strap too. Any large objects to pallets, just a thought
You have me laughing because you have detailed my journey perfectly! Just got done trying to practice on a piece of pine from the big box store. I will go find a maple tree!
Hey, my leather belt on my 1930s lathe keeps slipping, no matter how tight I make the belt, it will slip very very often. How do I fix it. I have an old lathe with an external/separate motor. Do u have any tips.
Can you please tell me roughly how long does it take to lathe straight rounded cane ca. 6 feet long from larch? Practically just rounding and sanding...🤔🤔🤔🤔
soft woods like spruce are common in northern Europe and a lot of nice furniture is made out of it. I started out with that stuff and getting a nice finish on spruce isn´t that hard. A lathe with a long bed was very important for me, since I make furniture and it has at least to be long enough so I can turn table legs, columns for all kinds of furniture, legs for bar stools and pieces for railings. A long bed is also important if you want to mount a chuck to drive whatever you´re turning and a drill chuck in the tail stock to drill holes into tool handles for example. A chuck, a drill chuck and the drill can easily cost you 10 inces. As you see, there are lots of applications for lathes with long beds. Just think about what you want to build. The diameter only matters when you´re planning on making bowls
Thank you for all your tips. I am new at this, thinking on buying a staring wood lathe, but I realize watching your video that is much much more than just the lathe. Thanks though!
This for the info Caleb super helpful! I am new and am confused between when to use a chuck vs center to hold a piece. Do you have any videos or references for this? Thanks!
Good question. Personally I prefer a chuck whenever possible because it holds the material tighter. The time to use a center would be if the chuck is in the way or you don't have the right jaws to hold the blank.
You mentioned pulley lathes can’t go slow enough for certain projects or stages of a project, what RPM would recommend being the minimum a lathe should go? Thanks for the vid!
I recently got a newer lathe and a workbench and a band saw and a bunch of tools for 60 bucks Everything is working but I'm unhappy with the chuck is there any videos that explain how to upgrade well out there?
I got a few carbide turning tools at an antique store for $10 each, and they work great! I need to sharpen them from time to time, but they work wonderfully!
If my lathe cost roughly what you spent on yours ($150) do you think I will be running into issues of my lathe stopping whenever I apply any amount of force to the object being spun? Basically, will it be able to keep spinning or will it get stuck sometimes?
Great video thanks. I wish I had seen it when I was getting started. If I may- 1. Having a bed extension on a small lathe is a great way to park the tail stock to make room for your elbow. 2. It's easy to sharpen carbide bits. Just rub them face down on a flat diamond hone. Finger pressure and a little lubricant is all that is needed. 3. Instead of a spur dive I would recommend a safety center especially for beginners but for experts too. Cheers, Montana Wood Art.
Silly question but I bought the same lathe you use in the video, what would I need to buy to make bowls? It currently has a spur center in it but it seems like I would have to replace the whole drive on the lathe to put a chuck on as I don’t see it being removable
The shaft should be threaded and you can put the four jaw chuck on it. Some models didn't have a threaded spindle though.. that'll require a new spindle.
Tip 9 at 8:23 - That's one nasty chunk taken out of your roughing gouge! And speaking of roughing gouges, one safety mistake new turners make is using a spindle roughing gouge on a bowl blank when the blank is mounted cross grained. Never, ever, EVER do this! The flat tang on the spindle roughing gouge may catastrophically snap if you get a solid catch, especially if you haven't properly readjusted your tool rest position, and throw sharp and broken metal uncontrolled around your shop.
As far as finding beginner tools go: Estate Sales are the BEST kind of market to find tools. I found Spindles, Partings, and Skews for roughly $.50 - $4.00 each. These weren't exactly HSS type tools but more like the vintage sort. Great handle shape, a little rust, slightly dull but with some TLC, a wire brush / wheel, and a grinding stone you'll have a tool to learn on until your time invested warrants a NEW HSS tool! So far, I've spent no more than $40.00 for everything I need. And when it comes to wood: Dumpster diving can go a long way. See a broken piece of wood on the side of the road? Hawk it up, square it out, and learn to turn junk wood into dowels. There's nothing like taking junk wood and learning what is worth turning and what is worth putting in the BBQ. However, there are some junk woods that turn well and you can really learn to Spindle on with Beads / Coves. Oh yeah, Wood Glue is CHEAP and is a great end grain sealer. When it comes to your Guts: Always trust your instincts ; if you get a little nervous about a certain turn of a log - stop and reexamine. Safety always comes first and honing your instincts will save you! This is the best summary of advice I can provide as a beginner to beginners!
Some useful tips there, as someone who is just starting out I would also suggest an 11th mistake that I keep making; wearing trousers / pants / jeans with pockets, as they keep filling up with small shavings
Well, it's been 4 months and I'm really enjoying it. I bought a Delta 46-460 and carbide tools. I started with a 4x4 fence post and am now buying wood from Woodcraft. FYI, I'm watching the video again, and it all rings true.
I have slowly added to my turning accessories. You don't need everything all at once. Usually when I do a new project of some sort.. I'll end up with a new tool... but at some point... you'll get pretty much everything you need. Not want... but everything you need.
Thank you . Seems mind boggling to get started . I will see if you have one that shows or talks about how to not lose fingers . Wishing I would of started 20 years ago but for sure I prob would of lost a finger back then .
Biggest thing it to make sure your tool is always angled up slightly, keep your tool rest as close to the material as you can, and take light passes. If you angle down, that's when it can get sucked in. And don't use a spindle gouge on bowls.
I concur with all these points. Never used the full bed on my lathe either. Luckily when I bought mine it came with tools and centres and 4jaw Chuck and 3 different sizes rests. Also some other sundrie items. If you buy second hand always look at what accessories come with the lathe.
Great stuff, thank you. I just entered the world of wood turning and I’m experiencing everything you’re talking about here. Thanks for the tips, and great info on the Rockler kits. 👍🏼
Excellent presentation for everyone, beginners to avidly turners. We may want to loosen up for a quick fix and this is where it happens! May I add to your list the woodturners long sleeves getting caught in the piece of wood or the turning chuck it always end up in serious injuries and the last that is rampant amongst the woodturners is the mistake to work in complete parallel to your piece of work. It is not unusual for a piece to get dislodged from the grip of the chuck and / or the tail stock. The mask helps the blunt trauma but not enough to the neck and chest. I was taught to use a slight diagonal angled position away from your work in progress. I cannot tell you how many of my friend woodturners and myself avoided impact that way. I appreciate your videos. Love to see more.
So I also need a welder and a metal lathe before I can upgrade the tools for my cheap vintage lathe that can't turn bowls? Hmm, it's still worth it. Thanks for the video!
@@josephh.7109 you can get 7/8 cold roll at most metal supply outlets, for your tool rest get carbon steel , it will not nick and catch tools , make sure its heavy enough to not flex , get a welding shop to weld them up , will not take more than 5 minutes. Get enough to make more than 1, cause you will want different types eventually
One suggestion: Before you go out and buy a 4-jaw chuck, buy several inexpensive 3" and 4" faceplates. Four-jaw chucks are relatively new to the turning world. Yet, back in the 1980s and 1990s, before chucks became common, turners were able to make everything we make today using chucks. Faceplates are just a little slower. They are also safer and more accurate. Learn how to use faceplates and you won't regret it. If you stick with this hobby, you'll most likely want a chuck (or four). I have several, but I also frequently use my faceplates.
Yep. Up until a year ago I only used face plates on my ShopSmith. I have two or three inch plates and a larger five inch one. It was only after watching so many TH-cam videos of good turners all using chucks did I get one. Glad I did. Pretty straight forward how to use. Much easier with small items & turning between centers. Of course, with my new Nova chuck I “needed” to get a nice live center kit too, ogh, and some fancy new carbide tipped tools, ogh, and some good nice wood, & bowl blanks, & some nice Rockler sandpaper......😀
I see you have an older lathe, so do i. Im wondering what if yours has threads to put a chuck on. Mine does not. Is there any alternatives to this like threads to put on or chucks that you screw onto your lathe?
Mine does, it's a weird thread though.. like 7/8 - 15 or something. I don't know about no thread chucks, but you may be able to use a die a cut threads on your spindle, or replace the spindle with one with threads.
Thanks so much. It's probably like any craft or hobby I suppose -- there's no end to the accessories. My son loves fishing. He has 16 fishing rods now. But Dad, you need that one for... Yep. I did buy the bed extension already. And that very same Benjamin's best tool set, ha! Now I need a 4-jaw chuck. Oh, and then a sharpening set up, and then...
Thae best thing I like about having the bed extension on my lathe is it allows me to move the tailstock far out of the way when I am turning bowls. That way I never have to remove it.
The small benchtop Wen lathe is doing th-cam.com/users/postUgkxKGVtPhqZBB5AQXXFlU2kdd4mQhO6wlhl just what it was desighed to do, turn small pieces. This product is workig very well in wood and plastics, I wouldn't recommend any metal turning on it though. Overall from an old tool guy, I highly recommend this lathe as long as you realize that this is for small turning only. I bought this a few weeks ago and have noticed the price has gone from $174. to $249. Might want to get one sooner than later.
Thanks!
As someone with a full fledged wood shop the lathe is its own beast. I have never bought another tool that needed an entire tool chest worth of accessories to fully enjoy
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I definitely appreciate how you highlight a seemingly simple buy is basically never a simple buy nor a cheap one. A lot of TH-camrs leave that part out because they forget they've spent thousands on tools, equipment and the accessories that go with them.
Great video!
Thanks! And yes.. lots of truth there. And the lathe is one place it's especially true I've found. Talk about a rabbit hole!
@@YouCanMakeThisToo you can say that again!
The bit at 9:02 cracked me up. Literally my internal dialogue as I was researching what to buy.
This is a valuable addition to my woodwork collection th-cam.com/users/postUgkxbnOKZBE4evMO5V2vroHeCjq6d_MV6wJO I still will rate this woodwork plan as the best in my reference library. It always seem to stand out from the rest whenever you go through the library. This is a masterpiece.
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#10 was spot on. The lathe really is the cheapest part when you start off. Lol. That’s why they call it the rabbit hole. It’s a never ending expense to turn wood……but worth every penny.
Haha truth
Thanks for keeping this video straight and to the point. Learned ALOT in the shortest amount of time possible. Appreciate you, sir!
I've basically been teaching myself how to turn. My father gets the basics and he taught me, but he's not a professional. I really needed this! Thank you!
Glad it helped!
So I put my mom on my flimsy lathe stand like you suggested, didn’t work she vibrated off, urn broke, now she’s all mixed up with wood shavings and floor dust.
Sounds like user error to me
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OMG , hahahahahahahaha , almost spilled my coffee , lol
Nice
Instructions too complicated. Balls stuck in a vice.
The nice UPS man brought me my first lathe last week and I'm looking forward to unboxing it. Or at least I was... TIA for helping reduce the number of mistakes I'm going to make. Great vid! Aloha
Have fun and get after it!
Hey thanks for the to the point video. Just bought a lathe (Grizzly Lathe) for my 15 year old son but at this point I’m also excited to use it also. Just getting it set up now and this is helpful for setting us up for success. Yay!!
That’s great! Hope yall have a blast learning together
There is an incredible amount of truth in this video. It was like Deja Vu for me. Brought a smile to my face in places. Well done!
Haha fantastic! Glad you enjoyed it
So true!
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I just spent way too much money on a new lathe and I have no idea what I'm doing lol. This video was very helpful, thanks
Glad I could help!
You do a great job showing the devil in the details with a good sense of humor! I appreciate your style! I have a lathe in my barn, and now understand the mushroom effect in costs to achieve a good finished effect. Thank you!
Thank you very much! And yeah, cost can definitely run away on you
This is one of the best woodwork video on TH-cam
Thanks!
I've been blacksmithing for about 30 years and finally decided to get into wood turning. I have a local wood store that has some jet lathes. I'm getting the JET JWL-1221VS tomorrow. I'll have to make a wood turning work bench for it. I can't wait to get it all up and running.
This man is one cool dude. Really enjoyed the video! As a metal worker - lathe and milling background - can empathise with many of the points raised here.
Right on!
Thanks for that, have you got a video on how to properly sharpen traditional tools?
Thanks: a really cool video. As a retired metalworking engineer converting to wood turning is a revelation. No dust from mild steel, but wood? That’s another dimension!
So much dust when you turn!
The most practical wood turning video on TH-cam.
Thanks!
entertaining as well as educational ...been turning on manual / turret / cnc lathes for decades but now retired and having recently purchased a wood lathe with applicable tooling I'm now a novice and gathering all the info I can to produce a quality turning....safely . Thanks !
Have fun!
I was given a Jet 1221 just short of when they came out, and I wish I was told these 10 things when I started years ago. Anyone new to turning listen up, this is spot on! Pine is useless to practice on. Sanding in reverse is good and has it's times, yet sanding with the grain is imperative. Bowls are where it's at so get a lathe with more swing than length, your tool rests will be more forgiving. As for vibration true in lower speeds, keep sharp tools and, "mount it to the house if you can, otherwise cast it in concrete". Every cut of wood is different, why use your face to learn that. It's a lot cheaper to protect than restore, lungs aren't free. The tools are costly, so look into making your own. Never sleep on a chuck and carbide tools, they can do almost everything without breaking the bank.
Hope y'all turning projects TURN out well ;)
All great advice! Always good to get some validation too!
Wow what a great video. Thank you... I had a nice old manual mill... Never used it. Traded it for an old Rockwell/delta from 1959. Came with so many tools and chucks and what not ... I've learned a lot already and am well on my way.
Great to hear, keep at it!
I am getting back into lathe work now at 50. The last time I turned was in high school shop and I enjoyed it for that semester. ( in other words no experience) My wife of 13 years and friend to this day often got mad at me saying, " quit talking about it and do it". "You have always worked so hard and never have done something for yourself like that". 2018 to 2020 was a rough time for me. I was in the fight for my life literally against the big C. My last surgery was in December of 2019 and in January 2020 I was told I was in remission! I must say that it changed my perspective in a big way. I took out a loan and got myself a jet 1221vs, g4 chuck pen mandrel, buffing wheels, slow speed grinder, band saw, table saw, planer, jigs clamps and all that including the others in your video. I also think I have the same set of starter tools that you do! I have tried a few different woods (pine being the first) but wanted to make these awesome bowls and fancy stuff. I started with first bowl (which is still sitting idle on the lathe after two months) with ash 2x8 glued together. I am now afraid of the dang thing, and very frustrated. I will no longer touch a skew chisel as I think it is a widow maker with catch. I know I am going on and on and I am sorry for that but I want you to know how much I like your video and it again gives me hope and excitement. I know that after turning a dozen Rockler slimline pen kits I was not ready to move on to harder stuff, but I did anyways. I have been searching for two months now on what wood to learn and hone the basic skills and have been so overwhelmed I quit searching deciding I am just going to cut up some 2x4 pine and do that after we get the crops in and things slow down. Thank you so much for this video and your time in making it and sharing it! Super like and subscribed as you give me hope and something to try. I have exhausted my searches here in south Dakota for a club as the nearest one is south 3 1/2 hours or north Dakota 4 hours. I know hands on help would be the best though it is not available in rural SD or even Aberdeen SD which is only 80 miles away. Again sorry so sappy and wordy, I just want you to know how much this video means to me.
Thank you Sir.
God Bless and I hope you and yours are all in good health and doing well.
Congrats! I'm very happy to hear you beat it and are in remission and chasing a very very long dream. You've probably found them.. but a few folks I can recommend for turning are Ashley Hardwood and Carl Jacobson. They're both here on TH-cam and have some really helpful content. I'm with you on the skew though.. it's a total nightmare until you've clocked the hours to get the feel of it (which I haven't). I recently switched to carbide and have to saw for finalizing details I definitely prefer them. There's much less of a learning curve with them. Personally I really like maple to turn. It's closed grain, hard enough that you can't accidentally get carried away, but soft enough to turn easy. Hope some of that helps and thanks so much for watching and subscribing and your kind words. Comments like yours go an extraordinary way in keeping me motivated to keep doing this. God bless.
Garry not Linda. I know I'm late to the party here but for you and anyone else reading these comments, park that skew in a drawer and leave it there for about five years and work on smaller projects with the other tools you have. Go back to basic practice cutting beads and coves until you're sick of them. Good video producers to add to your favorites are Alan Stratton at As Wood Turns, Mike Peace and Mike Waldt. Go through their archives there's a gold mine of turning information in them. Mike Peace has several free handouts for turning pill boxes, coffee scoops and other easy projects on his website. Stay away from pine and cedar for turning stick to hardwoods like maple, ash and oak which are usually reasonably priced. Check with a tree trimmer/arborist in your area and watch for downed or damaged trees. You can usually get some nice pieces just for carrying them away. Last summer I got some nice branches from a silver maple that is less than a block from my house. I still have to turn a piece from that stuff to give to the lady where I got the wood. Get a diamond card or block to touch up your edges between grindings. Stumpy Nubs has several videos on those. I'm using a 6" grinder also but I've also learned finesse. Light passes. I bought the Wolverine system but I'm not that infatuated with it. Since I have it I'll use it. Check Eddie Castelin's hack for making your own bowl gouge sharpener to save a few bucks. Hope that helps.
I'm subscribing because I appreciate the effort you are putting in to becoming a grumpy old man. Keep up the good work!!
I appreciate that!
Thank you for the tips! Even though we are in a "tropical" country, with forests and trees in many places, it is not easy to find "turnable" wood. It is very frustrating trying to turn any wood. I'm also having problems with cracks in the wood, even after drying... would you have any tips? We work with sculptures, and these are cracking after being painted... it's really bad. Any help would be very good. Sorry for the English, but I used a translator. Good job!
Make sure the wood you’re working with doesn’t include the center of the tree. That will always crack. Also, be sure to dry it slowly
Thank you for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Thank you so much for this video. I love it as much or more than your other videos. Over one year ago I took a loan out after my fight with cancer. I have always loved the idea of lathe turning; however it took me from high school until the age of 50 to do something for myself that always seemed frivolous in my day to day financial responsibilities. I do not want to discourage others that could not do what I did; however I do own all of the tools you have mentioned and more after the loan. I hope to pay off. I went through some set backs in life with family health and have put it aside, as well as some very scary catches when trying different types of wood. The chisel is my nightmare! I can not find any clubs or training near me in South Dakota, but still have the passion to make things. I dream of making gifts for family and friends, I just do not know where to turn to pursue this dream. My first purchase was the jet vs1221. I know it is capable of what I want to do, I just have become so frustrated not being able to do what I want to do. I thank you as I am going to order kits (other than pens, as I think I have those down to the finish at this point). Is there on online step by step from beginning to end you can recommend for me so I can learn more? I have a poor man project of hardwood on my lathe that has now been many months since I turned it on because of my frustration. I am sorry this is so lengthy but it comes from my heart as in 6 days I go in for my tests to find out if I am still cancer free and it weighs heavy on my heart in breaking my promise to myself to live and do what makes me happy. Thank you,
Sincerely. Glen Fitch aka Jeff Smith.
Quite an amazing story sir! I pray your tests come back clean.
I’ve yet to master the skew chisel as well.. If it’s giving you trouble, I’d recommend just setting it aside and spend more time with gouges - or go with carbide.
As far as guides I can’t think of any. But I do recommend Carl Jacobson. He’s an amazing turner and has done a bunch of live shows where he turns something beginning to end. And he’s good about talking through what he does.
Hope that helps sir.
He is so right about tools. 12 years of turning and I still need more.
That's the truth
Great video, but about the “rule of thumb” for the height of the tool rest in relation to the piece you are working on?
I haven't heard rule of thumb applied to tool rest height - as I mentioned, I'm not the guy to describe the right place. Feel free to share.
I'm trying to learn a little bit of woodworking but I only have pine and woodworking chisels. I am having the tearout issue. Is it just the wood or the chisel too?
Probably both
I,m now retired and new to wood turning, this video was extremely HELPFUL!!!!!!!
Glad to hear it!
You just about talked me out of buying a lathe. Very informative video. Woodturning is like 3D printing, after you've made a bunch of pens and pepper mills, and a big mess, what now? I don't think I can afford to go down this rabbit hole.
There's a reason you can find so many full turning set ups on Facebook Marketplace. You either get sucked down the rabbit hole and it's a life long passion, or it's part of a shop that you use when a project requires, or you dabble.. get to the "well, I tried that and it was fun but doing the same thing over and over ain't for me" and it sits 'till you sell it.
Your humour is as dry as the wood that gets turned, love it 😊 got a new subscriber mate, cheers from Australia 🇦🇺 where it’s dryer than a dead dingo’s donga 😎
Oh man, fantastic comment 🤣 thanks!
Thanks so much! Just starting my first turning project today, and now I feel more confident.
I got really confused once you started talking about gardening shovels.. what were those about?
Hand trowels, for transplanting sprouts and small plants.
I like your sense of humour! Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching!
Nice to hear a realist. I know all of these problems. Great encouragement.
Thanks for watching!
"Forgetting the Other Expenses" section: the story of my last year. But finding that part of the fun. I'm in a major city, but found there are used equipment dealers that have every part or tool you can think of at discounted prices. Great video.
Glad you've had good luck with the dealers in your area, where there's a will there's a way
Love the realistic style of the video
Thanks!
Thanks for the heads-up! I'm not into wood turning, but I did get a set of turning chisels and made a tool post for my metal lathe so I can use it for the occasional project. Good tips, now I have to find a video on how to use all those different chisels properly ;)
That is awesome! Have fun!
Can you tell me what dust mask you are holding? Do you have a link?
RZ mask. rzmask.com
@@YouCanMakeThisToo Excellent, Thank you - Reply earned you my sub.
Thanks!
Really good video. I recently set up my old lathe and just wanted to look at some refresher material for safety etc. Thanks for making this, I'm jealous ya got some nice tools yo 👍👍
For pratice wood, I have a prevlage od working with sheet metal, and they use oak and things to tie strap too. Any large objects to pallets, just a thought
That's awesome
You have me laughing because you have detailed my journey perfectly! Just got done trying to practice on a piece of pine from the big box store. I will go find a maple tree!
Hey, my leather belt on my 1930s lathe keeps slipping, no matter how tight I make the belt, it will slip very very often. How do I fix it. I have an old lathe with an external/separate motor. Do u have any tips.
Check out belt dressing, CRC makes some I think.
What about turning dining table legs? I used to from Rose and Teakwood, standing lamps
If you wanna do that then you'll want a longer lathe. Again, just depends on what your desires are.
Can you please tell me roughly how long does it take to lathe straight rounded cane ca. 6 feet long from larch? Practically just rounding and sanding...🤔🤔🤔🤔
Thank you for this advice. Lots of food for thought.
Glad it was helpful
soft woods like spruce are common in northern Europe and a lot of nice furniture is made out of it. I started out with that stuff and getting a nice finish on spruce isn´t that hard.
A lathe with a long bed was very important for me, since I make furniture and it has at least to be long enough so I can turn table legs, columns for all kinds of furniture, legs for bar stools and pieces for railings. A long bed is also important if you want to mount a chuck to drive whatever you´re turning and a drill chuck in the tail stock to drill holes into tool handles for example. A chuck, a drill chuck and the drill can easily cost you 10 inces. As you see, there are lots of applications for lathes with long beds. Just think about what you want to build. The diameter only matters when you´re planning on making bowls
Do you have any idea why my new Jet 1221 chewed my mandrel off in the Morse Taper and why it unscrewd my mandrel Saver?
Thank you for all your tips. I am new at this, thinking on buying a staring wood lathe, but I realize watching your video that is much much more than just the lathe. Thanks though!
Oh yes, so much more!
This for the info Caleb super helpful! I am new and am confused between when to use a chuck vs center to hold a piece. Do you have any videos or references for this? Thanks!
Good question. Personally I prefer a chuck whenever possible because it holds the material tighter. The time to use a center would be if the chuck is in the way or you don't have the right jaws to hold the blank.
Not rocket science, but there's more to turning than meets the eye. Thank You for sharing!
These are all very simple silly sounding things, but 100% true. This info is gold, all true.
You mentioned pulley lathes can’t go slow enough for certain projects or stages of a project, what RPM would recommend being the minimum a lathe should go? Thanks for the vid!
Depends on how big the project is. If you can get down to 200 that'd be ideal for almost everything.
I recently got a newer lathe and a workbench and a band saw and a bunch of tools for 60 bucks
Everything is working but I'm unhappy with the chuck is there any videos that explain how to upgrade well out there?
Not that I know of, good find!
Great tip. Only question is what is the best (correct) height for your lathe?
For spindle work I like the axis to be between around elbow height. For bowls maybe lower.
Thank you. I hope to put tool to wood in the near future and this helps quite a bit
Glad it was helpful!
Very interesting and entertaining at the same time! Thanks very much. Keep up the good work!!
Thanks, will do!
I got a few carbide turning tools at an antique store for $10 each, and they work great! I need to sharpen them from time to time, but they work wonderfully!
That is awesome! Love finding good deals like that
Quite helpful. Much appreciated. I realized that I have a good reason to always seems to be ordering something to turn.
When buying a lathe... Does the jaws automatically come with a lathe or is that a separate purchase?
Separate purchase, called a four jaw chuck. I have the nova.
If my lathe cost roughly what you spent on yours ($150) do you think I will be running into issues of my lathe stopping whenever I apply any amount of force to the object being spun? Basically, will it be able to keep spinning or will it get stuck sometimes?
Great video thanks. I wish I had seen it when I was getting started. If I may-
1. Having a bed extension on a small lathe is a great way to park the tail stock to make room for your elbow.
2. It's easy to sharpen carbide bits. Just rub them face down on a flat diamond hone. Finger pressure and a little lubricant is all that is needed.
3. Instead of a spur dive I would recommend a safety center especially for beginners but for experts too.
Cheers, Montana Wood Art.
Thanks for sharing!
Nice your video really helps me when Im building a blowgun make from wood.
Thanks for adding these simple but important information
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Really cool genuine video, much appreciated!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Silly question but I bought the same lathe you use in the video, what would I need to buy to make bowls? It currently has a spur center in it but it seems like I would have to replace the whole drive on the lathe to put a chuck on as I don’t see it being removable
The shaft should be threaded and you can put the four jaw chuck on it. Some models didn't have a threaded spindle though.. that'll require a new spindle.
Awesome, thank you so much! Can’t wait to watch more of your videos, you’re the man
Those drillbits, forstner bits are probably wierd sized because they have been converted from mm?
Could have been
Thanks, as a Newbi great tips
Glad it helped!
I have seen your video before I turned my first project so I started with oak. But I forgot to double check for screws. Talk about dulling gouges.
Ouch! I feel your pain bud.
Just love this video. Very informative. Important tips, which is sometimes overlooked. Thanks for sharing.
Great vid! So what low/high speed settings and what size swing size would you recommend for first lathe? Thanks!!!
At least 10" swing.. it really just depends on what kind of things you're interested in turning.
Thank you for your insights! a salute from a toxic woods country (Colombia)...hahaha
Great Great video !! I leaned a lot , thank you !! I’m one of those guys this video is for lol . Thank you again!!
Glad to help!
Tip 9 at 8:23 - That's one nasty chunk taken out of your roughing gouge! And speaking of roughing gouges, one safety mistake new turners make is using a spindle roughing gouge on a bowl blank when the blank is mounted cross grained. Never, ever, EVER do this! The flat tang on the spindle roughing gouge may catastrophically snap if you get a solid catch, especially if you haven't properly readjusted your tool rest position, and throw sharp and broken metal uncontrolled around your shop.
Good point!
Thanks for the concise presentation, too many presenters are in love with the sound of their voices.
I try
I have that same drill set, am and missing nearly all of the smaller bits from breaking. I think I bought it 7 or 8 years ago.
As far as finding beginner tools go:
Estate Sales are the BEST kind of market to find tools.
I found Spindles, Partings, and Skews for roughly $.50 - $4.00 each.
These weren't exactly HSS type tools but more like the vintage sort.
Great handle shape, a little rust, slightly dull but with some TLC,
a wire brush / wheel, and a grinding stone you'll have a tool to
learn on until your time invested warrants a NEW HSS tool!
So far, I've spent no more than $40.00 for everything I need.
And when it comes to wood:
Dumpster diving can go a long way.
See a broken piece of wood on the side of the road?
Hawk it up, square it out, and learn to turn junk wood into dowels.
There's nothing like taking junk wood and learning what
is worth turning and what is worth putting in the BBQ.
However, there are some junk woods that turn well and
you can really learn to Spindle on with Beads / Coves.
Oh yeah, Wood Glue is CHEAP and is a great end grain sealer.
When it comes to your Guts:
Always trust your instincts ; if you get a little nervous
about a certain turn of a log - stop and reexamine.
Safety always comes first and honing your instincts will save you!
This is the best summary of advice I can provide as a beginner to beginners!
Good tips!
Some useful tips there, as someone who is just starting out I would also suggest an 11th mistake that I keep making; wearing trousers / pants / jeans with pockets, as they keep filling up with small shavings
I know every pair of pants I've worn in the shop because they all have sawdust in the pockets I can't get out..
One word, apron lol
Thank you. Lathe just arrived and I will get started soon
Have fun!
Well, it's been 4 months and I'm really enjoying it. I bought a Delta 46-460 and carbide tools. I started with a 4x4 fence post and am now buying wood from Woodcraft. FYI, I'm watching the video again, and it all rings true.
I have slowly added to my turning accessories. You don't need everything all at once. Usually when I do a new project of some sort.. I'll end up with a new tool... but at some point... you'll get pretty much everything you need. Not want... but everything you need.
Truth
thank you for this video - very helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you . Seems mind boggling to get started .
I will see if you have one that shows or talks about how to not lose fingers .
Wishing I would of started 20 years ago but for sure I prob would of lost a finger back then .
Biggest thing it to make sure your tool is always angled up slightly, keep your tool rest as close to the material as you can, and take light passes. If you angle down, that's when it can get sucked in. And don't use a spindle gouge on bowls.
I concur with all these points. Never used the full bed on my lathe either. Luckily when I bought mine it came with tools and centres and 4jaw Chuck and 3 different sizes rests. Also some other sundrie items. If you buy second hand always look at what accessories come with the lathe.
Truth! I think that’s the real value of getting second hand. Not the knock off retail price... but all the extras that may come with it!
We need more of these types on forums and TH-cam👍
Thanks!
Do you think a dremel would work well to sharpen tools.
If you've got an incredibly steady hand, I couldn't pull it off.
what kind of lathe do you have
That was an old 50s era Craftsman
Great stuff, thank you. I just entered the world of wood turning and I’m experiencing everything you’re talking about here. Thanks for the tips, and great info on the Rockler kits. 👍🏼
That’s great, have fun! The Rockler kits are awesome. Pricey, but they deliver on the quality for it.
Excellent presentation for everyone, beginners to avidly turners. We may want to loosen up for a quick fix and this is where it happens! May I add to your list the woodturners long sleeves getting caught in the piece of wood or the turning chuck it always end up in serious injuries and the last that is rampant amongst the woodturners is the mistake to work in complete parallel to your piece of work. It is not unusual for a piece to get dislodged from the grip of the chuck and / or the tail stock. The mask helps the blunt trauma but not enough to the neck and chest. I was taught to use a slight diagonal angled position away from your work in progress. I cannot tell you how many of my friend woodturners and myself avoided impact that way. I appreciate your videos. Love to see more.
Fun to listen to, and good advice,. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it!
What kind of tool rest do you have? I have the same vintage lathe and haven't had any luck finding a 7/8" post for the stock banjo.
It's a homemade one that came with the lathe when I bought it
So I also need a welder and a metal lathe before I can upgrade the tools for my cheap vintage lathe that can't turn bowls? Hmm, it's still worth it. Thanks for the video!
@@josephh.7109 you can get 7/8 cold roll at most metal supply outlets, for your tool rest get carbon steel , it will not nick and catch tools , make sure its heavy enough to not flex , get a welding shop to weld them up , will not take more than 5 minutes. Get enough to make more than 1, cause you will want different types eventually
Great video! Does the wood have to be dried out?
You can turn green wood, just be mindful that'll move as it dries. There's lots of approaches to that.
One suggestion: Before you go out and buy a 4-jaw chuck, buy several inexpensive 3" and 4" faceplates. Four-jaw chucks are relatively new to the turning world. Yet, back in the 1980s and 1990s, before chucks became common, turners were able to make everything we make today using chucks. Faceplates are just a little slower. They are also safer and more accurate. Learn how to use faceplates and you won't regret it. If you stick with this hobby, you'll most likely want a chuck (or four). I have several, but I also frequently use my faceplates.
Great point! I definitely messed up not talking about face plates.
Yep. Up until a year ago I only used face plates on my ShopSmith. I have two or three inch plates and a larger five inch one. It was only after watching so many TH-cam videos of good turners all using chucks did I get one. Glad I did. Pretty straight forward how to use. Much easier with small items & turning between centers. Of course, with my new Nova chuck I “needed” to get a nice live center kit too, ogh, and some fancy new carbide tipped tools, ogh, and some good nice wood, & bowl blanks, & some nice Rockler sandpaper......😀
Good point, I thought it was just me.
14:08 aren’t those high speed steel drill bits?
Probably
I see you have an older lathe, so do i. Im wondering what if yours has threads to put a chuck on. Mine does not. Is there any alternatives to this like threads to put on or chucks that you screw onto your lathe?
Mine does, it's a weird thread though.. like 7/8 - 15 or something. I don't know about no thread chucks, but you may be able to use a die a cut threads on your spindle, or replace the spindle with one with threads.
YouCanMakeThisToo i’m thinking i’m going to replace the spindle. what size thread should i go with?
Thanks! I'm relatively new & always happy to learn from the best!
You're too kind!
Love the, "No Bull" attitude. Thanks pal.
You got it man
Thanks so much. It's probably like any craft or hobby I suppose -- there's no end to the accessories. My son loves fishing. He has 16 fishing rods now. But Dad, you need that one for... Yep. I did buy the bed extension already. And that very same Benjamin's best tool set, ha! Now I need a 4-jaw chuck. Oh, and then a sharpening set up, and then...
It never ends 🤣
Thae best thing I like about having the bed extension on my lathe is it allows me to move the tailstock far out of the way when I am turning bowls. That way I never have to remove it.
Ohhh that’s a good tip