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Oh did I mention I barely color graded the Alexa footage! It comes with a LUT when you import it into Premiere and thats pretty much all we did..... sooooo yea that was easy
Matti Haapoja 😳 are you for real! That’s awesome!
Matti Haapoja 😉
But I think a legend can win OSCAR with $1000 camera.
Your GH5+sigma 18-35 was looks like cinema camera
I really can feel the difference between Alexa and C300 wow blows my mind🤩,Coen brothers used Alexa mini to shoot The Ballad of Buster Scruggs a Netflix original,😉.
I still think you should film all your TH-cam videos on the Alexa.
I like this idea
Ummm can you quit your channel and help me film them then??? Do we have a deal? 😂
he will have to focus by marking distance points 😂
Alexa Mini + EasyRig = Handheld Rig Goals
Potato Jet and Matti, get on that. Will change your life using those heavy rigs.
Will make you poor but famous 🤘
Looks like a good vlogging camera
Abir Bandyopadhyay true and it’s so small and it uses a micro sd card
*best camera* th-cam.com/video/Yu_iUDpUAIo/w-d-xo.html
Just mount it up to a joby and its perfect.
Doesn't even have a flip out screen! This would be good for soccer moms or everyday dads but it doesn't have autofocus either!
When I see a Bengali winning the internet, I most often press like!
is anyone else tired of the *slow motion clip of a person walking and looking at things over vaguely familiar backpacker hip hop music* aesthetic?
i am
Dude it's the epic creator/disruptor looking at things. He's absolutely crushing it! :D
pretty sure that's done in this video to showcase the dynamic range. it was Matti and the other guy and they needed a subject and the other guy clearly seemed to be the one who brought the camera, so pretty natural that he films Matti, right?
That was the first thing i thought... I barely see that kind of footage in the films i watch the most
I've seen the same narrative countless times. Since the 90s. Something, something in particular in the creative field hasn't been seen often before, and someone does it, then a few others pick up on it. Then it look advanced and impressive, and signals the person is professional because they know this technique. So then people pile on until it becomes done to death, and eventually, it's a symbol of exactly the opposite of the original intention. It almost becomes a sign of the copying amateur. It's like Stars for Sneetches. And then it dies out because no one wants to be that unoriginal. Then something else comes along. And the whole thing repeats.
In terms of image quality, it's sometimes difficult to see the difference on a phone or small laptop screen. But project it on to a massive movie screen and you can instantly see the difference. Arri shoots 16 bit linear converted to 12 bit log and has insane data rates (something like 1.60 to 2.20 Gbit/s in 24p). These new hybrid mirrorless cameras are fantastic but they're made for youtube/vimeo or at the most a nice television screen, not the cinema.
Data rate is huge when you start to deal with VFX. Having those smoother transitions in tonal ranges make it easier to naturally composite in elements.
Thanks for explaining. I always wondered what camera Hollywood used.
Did you get, permit to india? What happened to ur case?
What is a director's of photography favorite beer?
Natural light.
best joke ive seen in a while
Haa 😂😂😂
Lol
well done Ramir
no, natty light is no ones favorite beer...
Hollywood is like broadcast television, it's a group effort not a "one man band". Arri is a modular system that is expensive to the consumer electronics buyer, but to the industrial buyer it's a capital expense that is amortized over a long period of time. For the corporate user it's not a problem having a full inventory of accessories to make the system complete, just as broadcast video cameras become complete with all of the accessories that individuals might be tempted not to get in order to save money. And yes, the image quality is worth it. Some things are worth doing as a team in order to do better.
And this is why I own 4 JVC GYHM700 series cams. Quality and versatility.
@@kriswingert1662 Wow, Amazing must be very expensive per camera
Sick! Thanks for sharing the magic. Always learning something new!
I was on set as an extra for a TV series a few weeks ago and everything was shot on an ARRI Alexa Mini. When our scene was finished the DP and the Director were reviewing the footage and I managed to get a look at the image, and I was blown away by how incredible it looked - so simple, but just gorgeous. I had no idea they weren't good at low light until you mentioned it because this scene was shot in a nightclub! Gahh I love these cameras!
@twinklenutzzz Interesting points. I guess nowadays we tend to associate good low light performance with being able to pull as much details out of the shadows as possible, whereas in film, they rarely do that - they just make the darkness look very, very good.
@@AronBagel I actually bought the Sony A7sii for that exact reason. I shot a lot of events and nightclub promos back then and figured it would be perfect for that. But in the end I just pointed the camera at well lit parts of the club anyways and didn't need the extra ISO performance. When I did shoot dark areas, it did look better than my previously used cameras, but it still looked bad and I never used the footage anyway... It was really just drawn out shadows without much contrast. Hated the camera for all its other flaws and just now bought a BMCC4k for the cinematic look and ease of use instead...
But what about them is nice scientifically? the skin tones are more accurate? How is that work a 75k camera?
You guys did the best straight to the point and in "plain English" explanation of this subject. This is the most informative video I've watched about this Thanks so much!
In fairness that Alexa set up was extremely unbalanced and super front heavy... not ideal at all. Get a properly built BALANCED rig and you can operate with it all day.
5lbs body, 5lbs Angenieux EZ Zoom on the front, small brick on the back. Of course you're going to tire quickly. Drastically overstating difficulty of use and solo use. It's a reliable and logical camera which is almost as big a selling point to me on its fantastic image quality. Grab any Sony cam and dive into their frustrating menus. They are much easier to throw across the room that the Arri.
PS: I love my FS7 to an extent.
Another major argument is Arris reliability and Optimization for Hollywood workflow. A true professional tool that performs as expected and needed every time. From what I keep hearing about RED, they have still some distance to go in that regard. Reminds me a bit of Tesla. New and awesome cutting edge technology, but not the the reliability and all-round maturity of older established companies.
The colour tones does it for me! I'm sick of not getting the right vibe to my footage
th-cam.com/video/sLpjVt454pU/w-d-xo.html Use that LUT it's like magic.Even my motorcycle helmet cam vids look cinematic with that LUT. I apply to a seperate adjustment layer in premiere pro so i can control opacity as sometimes depending on footage it can over do it. But if you were to get everything else right like lighting, set design, composition etc etc and throw that LUT on it with letter boxing too, footage looks pretty damn good.
Thanks for exploring this area and giving us some insight into the high end range of hardware. I learned a lot. Keep up the great work.
the quality is insane! it's like i can"t tell why i love the footage so much but i love it!
I THINK YOU LEFT YOUR CAPS LOCK ON FOR THE PAST COUPLE VIDEOS
Oh shooot!!! 😂
TH-cam has debunked the myth that CAPS affect ranking. It does however make you look desperate.
@@dirface it just makes titles pop more 😂 nothing to do with "desperation"
😂😂😂
@@dirface Tell this to people like Matt D'avella, no clickbait or anything near, still a really large growth with great content
Id love to hear about your film influences growing up.
Movies and filmmakers that caught your attention would be a cool episode
YES! So sick. And one of the nicest things about the Alexa mini’s that I like is the highlight rolloff. So cinematic
Great video @Matti. When you mentioned that this camera is not about budget and convenience, and how comfortable it is to use for a long time, but about the quality of the image, it made totally sense to me.
You know, when you're vlogging, you hold your camera with your hand for long periods of time, and usually you do long shots, while in great budget movies, the cameras are held on cranes or tripods, and even though the shooting lasts all day, the scenes are not. Most of the scenes are seconds long, repeated many times, so the camera person only has to held the camera for short periods of time.
I enjoy your channel content buddy, thanks for sharing !
This video is full of misinformation. Dynamic range is a metric science CAN measure and compare. In fact, with a little DIY, you could measure the dynamic range of your own cameras. All these "film like" look qualities you speak of are highly dependent on your lens, and your colorist. The REAL reason hollywood uses arri is because of pro features like SDI and timecodes, codecs, modularity. They are also reliable, and have great support. You're doing your viewers a disservice by mystifying what cinematic look is with all this bs conjecture.
yes. correct. these guys don't really know what they are talking about.
thanks. What camera would you recommend?
He wasn't saying that you can't measure it, he said that the manufacturers are not honest about it.
@@FutureChaosTV But manufacturers DR rating is actually quite accurate as this is a trivial thing to test. For an example, take a look at Filmmaker IQ's video on dual iso.
The bigger issue is them mystifying what "cinematic look" is. It's much easier for someone to accept that their footage doesn't look cinematic because they don't have a $20k camera. It's not MY fault, its the cameras. But you're not improving as a filmmaker if you think the missing ingredient is an arri. There was a shot with the truck flipping in the dark knight that was taken from a b roll camera. A canon 5d forgot which version. There is no point in that movie where you went "oh thats not cinematic, must be because they didn't use an arri." If you want a cinematic look, choose good lenses, get more experience color grading, move your camera with purpose, and most importantly, learn how to light your scene.
As for which camera is recommended. It depends. Cameras/lenses are nothing more than tools to achieve a look you desire. If you're shooting a travel vlog, then compactness is probably something you value. If you shoot a lot of low light, you may want to consider a bigger sensor like full frame. If you're a professional, you're most likely going to rent anyways. If you are a hobbyist and want to practice, then the current crop of dslr/mirrorless are already fantastic and affordable.
@@beingyourself6813 - Alexa if you're doing high-end work and you have an operator who knows what they are doing.
I struggle to save for a $1000 camera, hahaha, but it is awesome to learn about these things, maybe one day... great video, hope all is well, take it easy...
Thanks for making this video. Love the breakdowns, hope to film with you and Potato Jet one day!
Such a great video and explanation Matti, thanks! 🙌🏻
Thanks for this, interesting. At 11:14 you said "put them side by side", would love to see some footage side by side with difficult subject material - Alexa, Red, and even the Sony you are using in this video.
Great video! Would have been good to see some side by side comparison footage of Alexa vs your dslr 🙂
As usual man you guys always have amazing content. Really appreciate you guys man
You are bang on about the roll off. I think that plus the dynamic range is really what makes the difference in the image quality.
Matt, sick vlog and the info was on point. How does the Alexa image look at night? Being in Vegas and getting those night shot would have been epic as well. What lens did you guy use? Keep it up!
I dont know why he said that it sucks at night. That true that these cameras arent ISO champs, BUT they keep their tones the same everytime. On a sony maybe you can get away with iso50000 in terms of noise, but it has a whole different image at every 5000.
Oh and their noise is a whole different level too.
Arris reliability is an even bigger reason they are used over other digital competitors. Look at any film set shooting RED and notice they always have 2 or 3 extras on stand by.
Our RED locks up all the time, but I've NEVER seen an Arri not make it through a day of filming.
true that
Fact
Pretty much. Had one go down on a feature I shot, but other than that they're pretty much bulletproof. Red's are much more finicky.
German gear.
Loved it! Again! Great job, Matti!
love you guys! thanks for the video!
What focus settings are you using? I never have that much focus drift in my 7III or my RIII.
Why are they using it? After image I would say durability and reliability. This one issue with Red cameras. They are buggy and freak out sometimes. Arris just work and keep working according to what I have heard about them.
And the interface. I think Matti expressed this wrong in the video, he sounds like its sucks to handle these cameras, in reality these are the best cams for teams in handling.
Lol Sony focus... I love the video. Thanks. Once I saw the intro I was like.... (Pause phone, go to desktops, replay.)
Beautiful, the capture really puts you in perspective. As an editor, I’m sure this would save the time and hassle for anyone that falls in the hands of color correction
I don't think the difference in image quality between the Alexa and a Canon C300, a Blackmagic URSA, or even a Panasonic GH5 is substantial enough to justify such a gigantic difference in price. I mean, it's $45 thousand for one or two extra stops of dynamic range, and a difference in skin tones that I can guarantee 99% of your audience won't even notice or appreciate while they're watching your movie on consumer-level television, probably not even in 4K.
F35 (SRW-9000PL) AND F65RS is the best digital cinema camera money can buy for under $10k, F23 (SRW-9000) and AJ-HPX3700 are the best digital cinema cameras money can buy for less than $5k, F3 along with the HDW-F900(R) and PDW-F800--and equivalentd--are the best digital cinema camera money can buy for less than $2.5k.
It's definitely worth the Arri difference. In the best hands, this camera can produce images that blackmagics (love them as I do), simply can't with the level of highlight rolloff, extreme detail retention, unparalleled skin tones, etc.
FYI: The ARRI Alexa LF shoots in 4k native (and they also have a 6K available) and the "native 4k" Netflix requirement is just for their "original content productions". Not that I can even afford the rental fees on a fully kitted Alexa LF 💵🙀 BTW: Great video and glad you are helping that kid (🥔✈️) from the the Up movie get some some exposure 😜
Robert Nees I want to buy not rent. I got a LOT of pennies to pinch and save.
Haha, I knew he looked familiar! Rotfl... 🤣
I love your b-roll sequences Matti. They are so appealing to the eye!
I really like this kind of content! Really nice Matti!
Great video Matti. Just a quick question. Is that the new Peter Mackinon ND filter you are using on your G master? Because I still can see vignetting on the image, while Polar pro claimed there is no vignetting with these new ND filters.
No he's using a Sony in this video... Those filters are for Canon only I believe.
Don't buy his junk filters. Buy a 4" filter and keep it and use it forever.
Why am I constantly looking at various "artsy" poses of this dude? Show me the bloody camera!
Great video and thank you for having Amazon's Alexa always waking up when you pronounce that model of the beast...almost every 2 sentences. Continue the hard work and than you for sharing the experience
Your comments about image quality is how I feel about choosing between two newer brands to the "entry-level" cinema game. Kinefinity and Z-cam. Kinefinity is like Arri to me (IQ), where Z-cam is like Red (Spec heavy). And I think I'm going with Kinefinity.
I'm waiting for Jon Olsson to buy an Alexa and vlog with it, the Red just wasn't enough
Gimmie ur guitar
LoL, I've just read your comment and Jon's new video notification poped up 😂😂
team overkill
It hurts to look at how poorly balanced that handheld rig is. Coulda saved your arms and back if you had an AC build that ;)
I'm no professional, just a hobbyist and gear-enthusiast knowing i'll never own one of those, not even third-hand. But i'll have to agree with Gene, they look so impressive! Of course image quality is also outstanding, no wonder why film-makers use them.
Way to go fellas, nice video. Thanks for sharing!
P.S. Big is Beautiful!
So hard to describe what makes something look cinematic. This is definitely not in my budget 😂 Great vid
Yeah, that Sony autofocus...
I've been shooting with the a7iii (company camera, not mine), and I HAVE to go to manual focus at pretty much every point.
Rightttt??? Omgosh people are always saying they have no issues but even in good lighting I have issues!
@@mattih Are you using face tracking? If your using a monitor, face tracking turns off.
if you want the best image quality just buy a Hubble
And shoot from space while at it...no zoom needed.
why has this thing been going for 30 years and still has a decade or 2? left (if I parsed wikipedia correctly) but the james webb telescope has a 5-10 year shelf life?
Or a RED MONSTRO
@@michaelxz1305 The James Webb telescope is an IR telescope made for observing long wave visible light up to mid-infra-red. The Hubble telescope views UV, visible, and near IR.
In order to view these longer wavelengths (lower frequencies) of light, the James Webb telescope has to be kept colder than the Hubble, which requires it to be moved MUCH farther away from the earth (1.5 million km) than the Hubble (550 km). This makes servicing it once it's in location virtually impossible.
Since IR radiation is basically heat radiation, the Hubble itself has enough warmth to radiate heat in the very wavelengths that the James Webb telescope is made to detect. That makes it impossible for the Hubble to accurately measure these wavelengths since it's emitting these wavelengths itself.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Webb_Space_Telescope
Also, I'm not sure what the original life expectancy of the Hubble was. Now they expect it to last another 10 years. Thirty years ago, maybe they thought it would last 20 years. I don't know. It might be like the Mars Rover that lasted much longer than expected.
Thank for shooting this here in Las Vegas. We appreciate it!
I am a film student and we get to use Arri XTs in third year, I'm in first year but I got to work as the 1st AC on a third year set this week and the joke was you can point the camera at anything and it would make it look beautiful! The Arris are definitely the best for getting the film look.
You forgot to mention that the ROLLING SHUTTER issue is very minimal on an Arri Alexa. You can't shoot action movies with the kind of terrible rolling shutter that a DSLR camera has.
Yes you can. If it has an engaging plot it would be a good movie no matter what.
@@HELIOSSTUDIO yeah but an action scene with rolling shutter is so confusing and nauseating that the viewer won't be able to concentrate on the story
@@randomcommenter6734 You said "action scene" but what you mean is "shaking, nauseating nonsense" that's in most modern "action" movies. You can easily shoot good action scenes on a cheap DSLR. Just look at old Corridor Digital videos.
@@TechnoBabble ah yeah, I didn't word my reply right
Let's be clear, the ARRIs have a global shutter and therefore can't suffer from rolling shutter...
You keep setting off my Alexa speaker 😂
I just learned so much from this video. Great job!
Love hearing "Keep rolling, and let's roll through that again" when on a shoulder rig...
I love the Alexa, but as far as image quality goes, I've heard from some of my DP friends that the Sony Venice comes *very* close
subjective. I don't think so but I hope to use Venice soon.
I've used the Arri Amira before and I loved the look and the ease of use. For bigger productions im definitely going to be renting an Arri out more often.
Heck yes 🙌🏻
It would be really interesting to see what people behind the development of Arri cameras have to say about it. I would think they could quantify the "cinematic look", though they might not be open to saying anything super useful due to things like competitive advantage. Neat video!
I remember working at a broadcasting company and they told me to film some stuff for TV using a sony fs7. At the time, i was a DSLR shooter. I was so stoked to finally film on a "big ass camera" and by the end of the day, I was SO ready to go back to DSLR's cause of how heavy and inconvenient the FS7 was
8:54 Actually, the AMIRA is very convenient to use and still captures the same fantastic image quality.
amira is a dope documentary rig
my amazon Alexa was going crazy during this video
You answered a lot of my questions. Thanks!
That Arri 709 LUT is amazing. You can get the color right in camera, especially utilizing false color tools, so you barely have to color grade. We use one daily and makes using a RED or any other camera feel weird. Actually, only other cameras I found that I can get close to the Arri Alexa Mini look is the Sony a7iii and the BMPCC4K, BlackMagic being the closest.
It's perfect for vlogging! 😂😂😂
Utterly wrong way to build a shoulder-rig - waaaay too front heavy.
I thought that when we first saw it in PotataoJet's vlog a couple days ago. I'd have shifted the whole thing back on that shoulder pad and just moved the EVF forward.
Thomas Gosling Agreed! 👍🏼
100%
Seems like they did it just to prove their point.
its a disc slipper spine wrecker rig
That intro footage was just deep and crispy; far superior in everyway. Nevermind the sweet sweet Angénieux attached to it...phhhheeewww!
Hi Matti,
I enjoy your videos and encourage you to make more content which is usually enjoyable and informative.
In the case of handholding the alexa or any heavy camera rig is balance, to try solving some of the problems you were facing I would like to suggest that you guys could have moved the shoulder pad forward and then adjusted the handlebars and grips forward too, and then you would've had a much better balanced camera and that makes it a lot easier to hand hold. At the moment you have the tripod plate where the shoulder pad should be I reckon there's a solution anyway but you guys had it way to front heavy and the hand grips didn't allow you to "rest" your forearms on your chest/stomach for support and stable shots.
That shoulder pad shoulda been positioned way more forward. No wonder yall arms were shaking
Or why not put a counter weight on the back.
@@murdochmacdonald4310 Because then the camera would be even heavier? mr. genius.
Nice job Matti! You should come and shoot in Montreal 🔥
Love how the image comes out pretty much finished from that thing! 😎
Exactly! It’s crazy
This is a great video Matt. More of this !
Man, wouldn't it be nice if somebody bought an Alexa with your affiliate link 😂
Glad I know cameras color science
- Nikon Guy :)
i love you, dude. thank you so much for your content
Delightfull AF hahaha great video! Fun to watch.
By the way, that's the Arri Alexa MINI. They made that one like half the size of the Studio model.
It's the same camera though in terms of the image. Just less external controllers and ports.
@@TechnoBabble it's also frame-rate limited, especially in the new MiniLF over the stock AlexaLF
“So i looked talented and know what I’m doing.” True reason 😝
Yep!
Face it, cinematography and film making are hard work. Kudos to everyone who entertains us. Great vlog.
Hei man,
Nice video, I love the image you took out of the A7 III there and just wanted to ask,
Kindly , will you share the specs that you use on the a7III for this video. I'm kind of starting and trying out new specs to see which one is best for me.
Have a great one, I love your vids!
Cheers!
Thanks Matti
Clever story planning. "Let's make a vlog. I'll talk and wave my hands; Gene, you carry the camera."
"Uff."
Great video and love the explanation...
I've actually used an Alexa to shoot an interview and it was so nice! Anyway great video!
some big hollywood filmmaker will probably watch this and face palm.
At 11:15 mark he talks about putting footage side by side why didn't he do it?
Because this is click-baity garbage. No mention of lens selection, LUT capabilities, grading capabilities etc. Just bashing a serious high-end digital cinema camera that doesn't fit his "style" or needs means it's not overpriced. Arri's are leased or rented, the studios own the cameras for pool use by various directors.
hahaha, "just a flex" - great vid Matti and Potato :)
Hey Matti love the videos 💛
Do a side by side comparison between the alexa mini and the Sony a7iii
a7sii and gh5 both matched well with amira and alexa footage for a handful of shoots.
But Is it compatible with amazon alexa .
Why are we still alive.just to suffer?
SID GAMER Alexa, roll Alexa
This is so sad, Alexa play Despacito 9 v.32
I’m biased toward black Magic myself. I have the old 1080p version and I LOVE it. I can’t wait to save to get the Ursa!! 😊😊😊
Great episode - super interesting!
Matti, would you like to know all the technical inaccuracies you stated during this video?
I would like to know.
Give a youtuber a cinema grade camera, grab some popcorn, sit back and enjoy the show as they laugh about all the “features” it doesn’t have
Matti, why are you with the A7iii and not the EOS R that its your best choice for blogging (according to your self)??
I just felt like mixing it up. And now I’m back to the eos r 😂 as you can see AF wasn’t really working
@@mattih hahaha, yeah, that's why this question came to my mind, the AF issues. :P
There was a good amount of time where that AF was all over the place! Haha
Thanks for all of this awesome information. New in video and love learning new things all the time. Great vid Matti!
Dynamic Range is a "Smart Feature" ;) Nice video!
there's like a blue vignette around your footage, is that from the variable nd filter?
I would also like to know this
That and they (Peter and matti) usually use a vignette in post
I just always figured it was their nd filters
Yeah, almost definitely. Midday in Las Vegas gets super bright, especially surrounded by a bunch of light-colored stone. He was probably using his ND close to its max before you get that vignette or the dreaded X
@@500_Days Trueee but isn't Peter Mckinnons ND supposed to have no to very little vignette? hahaah
I just realized that filmmaking is a expensive hobby
true , we are still trying to find producers 😂
No its a profession
@@kimswaden-ward1239 only when you pay the crew in pizza and soda for the day
No really!
Try out professional sailing, after that almost everything is kind of cheap...
The B-roll was amazing great work
This and Zebra Zones "Why are TV Cameras still HUGE and expensive?
" go well together. Thanks for the great info. I'm not into film, but I do love interesting information.