Can't say ENOUGH how awesome it is to have a PRO-LEVEL rider posting insights, tips, technique, race commentary here on TH-cam. Thanks Josh! SUBSCRIBED!!!
Josh, loved watching you at Road America earlier this month. What a great weekend even with the sketchy weather on Saturday. I'd love to see a video on how you pick and memorize your brake points, apexes, and corner exits, along with gear choice in each corner. I'm sure when you do it every day, it becomes second nature, but as a primarily street rider who's starting to do track days this summer, building the mental frame of mind to deliberately choose those points is decidedly further down the priority list than watching for gravel, deer, oncoming tractors, texting drivers, etc. When I'm way out in the country and can let my guard down a bit, I try to practice that, but unless you go ride the same stretch of road over and over again (not popular with the people living along that stretch), it's difficult to build the visual/muscle memory when each new corner presents it's own set of variables.
Congratulations on your win at Road America! So glad I could witness it first hand, especially the last lap. Also great save on Saturday's race I think lap 3 or 4 almost lost it crossing the white line. Keep the videos coming
Love your riding style Josh! Your a Monster on the Suzuki! One thing I have always wondered about braking. Do you use the rear brake and when is the best time to do so?
Neof1gt thank you for the support. I do use the rear brake. I use it while braking straight up and down, while trailing into the corner and especially when I am trying to get the bike to finish the corner. I do not use it to keep the front wheel down, that’s all in the wrist and body position.
@FITNESSOVER45 there are plenty of different riding styles, but no professional rider has his heel on the outside peg. My outside peg is always in the middle of my foot.
I didnt believe you were actually a pro racer until i saw you doing burn outs/doughnuts on that 150cc crotch rocket.. thats just sick dude u. r. legend. 😂
You just described how I locked my rear wheel up at Road Atlanta and dropped my r6 at the entrance of the chicanes lol. I dumped it in the grass and my bike had minor scratch on left Fairing. I, however, have a pretty gross ankle sprain. (I’m a novice)
Agreed! Need to find myself a new suit before next Friday at T-Hill. If you’re ever at the track when I am, you got a beer(more like 10) with your name on em
Why is abs good on the street? because the street has oil, coolant, sand from the shoulder or gravel trucks, coffee, nails, trucker bombs and other invisible fod. I have abs fingers but abs sensors are pretty fast and will keep the rubber down if they can. If your trail braking and you roll over something slick like a tar boil it's got a good chance of saving your skin.
Can you explain the leg dragging thing that’s become popular? Never quite figured out how you still grab the tank with your knees when you have a leg hanging off the bike... but many top riders are doing it, so I assume it has some purpose?
@@anidiotinaracingcar Nah if you watch the MotoGP guys you'll see what I mean. It's under hard braking, leg off then putting the foot back on the pegs as they're turning in.
I’ve been using my middle and ring finger to brake for the 3 years I’ve been riding. Everyone i know makes fun of me for it lmao. But I like it because I can have my index and thumb around the throttle and it just feels good to me. I’ll show them a photo of you on the brakes next time they say something to me about it lmao.
Middle and ring is the strongest and healthiest two finger combination, because the tendons work in a straight line, while being far right so acting as a bigger lever. If you get used to it you have more power and more precision with same effort. I am a classic first two fingers tho.
My guess is that he's getting more time riding at the limit of traction, on asphalt, with rubber tires, but with less risk. On the Ovale, I think he can get an experience that is similar to riding a race bike, except he can push the front and crash without worrying too much that he'll get hurt. Also, since the bike is so small, he can work on sliding the rear without worrying about getting thrown off in a massive high side like on a liter-bike. Crashing is also not so bad for the bike since it's so small and light.
Good stuff! Those mini bikes look rad...like some sort of high-performance grom. I'd be interested in a video or series talking about how you approach learning a new track or tough corners. Do you take physical notes on markers? Everything just from memory and seat time? How about your thought progression on going to a track that you haven't been to in a while? It's great hearing the inside scoop on these sorts of things!
You prolly dont give a shit but does any of you know of a trick to get back into an instagram account..? I was dumb forgot my login password. I would love any help you can offer me!
@Shepard Maddux I really appreciate your reply. I found the site on google and im in the hacking process atm. Takes a while so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
Josh, regarding the downshifting while braking, it is possible to downshit when not having quickshifter in one action lets say : release throttle, start brake, pull clutch, drop from 6>3 without releasing the clutch and adding between gas with each downshift?
2-3 times per lap adjusting brakes???? that's wild..... Would like to hear your updated thoughts on ABS and the rear activation on the new Panagali V4S. Grabbing downshifts as soon as I touch brakes as well, but the bike never feels totally settled into slower corners especially. The straights seem to feel better, but they're usually multiple downs and the slipper is eating like a champ. Any advice for the say, 4 to 3 or 3 to 2 drops? (05 r6 with yoyodyne / 06 r6 stock slipper, EBC friction plates in both).
Great video josh my son happened to be over my shoulder watching this video what kind of bike are you using granted I’d buy this for myself since he has a pit bike thanks again brah 🤙🏾
Another great video, thank you. Let's say you have your technique down fairly well and you're consistently getting decent lap times, but are struggling to improve from there. What do you do to make yourself even faster?
So you get most of your braking done before the turn, and dont trail brake as much. I presume so that you can get back to the throttle as quickly as possible?
I took the TechSpec pads off of my Street Triple R. Maybe you have a different kind, Josh, but mine felt pretty useless. I just got some StompGrips, and I'm excited about using them once this freaking rain stops!
@LogicalSense I'm up in Smyrna near the baseball stadium and Dobbins, but I'm in North Atlanta almost daily. "My" Fellini's is on Roswell Road not far from Johnny's Hideaway
Hi Josh, Thank you for the awesome material. I have a question for you. When you are at the end of a long straightway, you shift your body, half butt, to lean, and dip down and drag your knee. While applying the brakes and shifting down the gears, you feel your rear wheel trying to pass forward your front wheel. Is it the moment that you grab the clutch and hit the friction zone to avoid it?
you mean on a street/sportsbike? ever so slightly use the rear brake just before you lean into corner and trailbrake it off (sorry, not native english)... mind you, only a VERY small % of riders uses rear brake and of them quite a lot remove a part of brake pad material, so chance of locking up is smaller. Rear brake lock is last you want in a corner if you have a slipperclutch, just bang down through the gears fast enough and enter corner fast enough, the slipperclutch does the rest. hope thats the answer you re looking for?
Thanks gents. Much appreciated. I race regionals in South Africa on a 600. My pace is only approximately 1.5secs off the lap record but Ive always keep the wheels tracking straight in the braking zones. A part of me thinks that backing it in might be able to give me a a little bit more pace.
@@lillnemo1 I do have a slipper clutch. I have had instances where the back end will step out after my final down shift but it's never stepped out and stayed that way. So I'm curious as to how to initiate a controlled one and then correct it.
@@masterpayne3791 since you're already racing 600 then maybe Simon Crafar's Motovudu is the way to go. Don't remember if he covers backing it in as separate technique but should certainly discuss it since he enters lot of corners with slightly sliding rear wheel.
@@HemiBurns Sometime before cornering. Combine it with front brake to make the best speed reduction but with little force. If you press to much in high speed, your rear wheel might get slipped. You need to try it in track so you can get the best flow when cornering without losing so much speed.
What that guy said. Also if you very slightly trail the rear brake it will tighten a corner. very slightly. Don't find out what happens if you apply too much
adjusting your brake lever 2, 3 times a lap????? About the downshifting, is that with or without slipperclutch? cause I see the guys with the slippers downshift really fast and early without problems cause the rear wheel doesnt lock. I downshift as fast as possible too, without releasing the clutch, but it seems to take longer the old way. I have to release the clutch slowly, but quite late cause otherwise the speed is too low too soon. This makes corner entry less easy cause the bike settles quite late. My mate experiences the same issues.
I have the same thing, sometimes I find it difficult to revmatch when im going from 5th to 2nd gear, and there's more enginebrake than what I wanted, causing me to go slower into the corner than I'd wanted
lillnemo1 maybe more sometimes. That is with a slipper clutch. If you do not have a slipper clutch you just need to let the clutch out slowly for a smooth entry to the corner. I never make all of my downshifts in the same clutch pull. I grab and release the clutch in between each downshift.
You were way too serious with your instruction. What happened to taking the piss and making us think what’s real and what’s not? 😂😂 just kidding. Great video.
Trevor Groeneveld don’t worry. They’ll be back. I just have to make sure people know it’s a joke. They take these videos way too serious. That’s a good thing, I guess.
Love the vids like these, but I still wonder why a lot of racers dont seem to rev match when down shifting? Maybe they have slipper clutches so it isnt neccesary... I've never ridden a bike with a slipper so i always rev match. I've always wondered why racers dont seem to
David Urena just lean that is probably the last thing I will be giving instruction on. Maybe we can do a video where a real wheelie pro teaches me, which in turn, teaches you. 👍🏼
I am a little confused about the dynamic of quickly down shifting as soon as the braking starts. I am thinking of RPM's and the rear if done quickly at 160+ mph. How quick is this? Is it done late with hard breaking so that the bike slows down quick enough so you 're not in too low of a gear for the speed?
Any tips on the basic form of throttle control and countersteering? IE for street riding... staying in your lane without going too wide or hitting the apex too early or knowing street lines?
both 2 first questions, shame on you if you really have to ask. Throttle control? dont ever get OFF the gas in a corner, start giving throttle ONLY if you can keep it open. Starting throttle is ALWAYS gentle, never jerk the gas open. If you have a jerky bike, start opening the throttle just that eeniewieny tiny bit earlier, so your bike settles a bit before you realy start giving gas. Sometimes this means even before the corner or apex. Countersteering is something natural. 99.9999999% of time you dont even realize you push the bar. You lean the bike by hanging off a bit (which causes the bike to countersteer by itself) and "push" the wrong side of the bar. For left corner "push" right bar forward. While riding, you dont use more than 15degrees steering angle on the tightest corner... Thats how little steering input you need!!! more angle is only for parking, manouvering.. You dont keep pushing the steering, just initiate the corner.... street riding? if you go wide after the corner, you were inside too much before it. It's always the same thing, be it on track or street; outside, inside, outside. So if you live where people drive on the right side of the road and you take a right corner: keep as far left as possible on YOUR lane, "steer in as late as possible", go as far right as possible in the corner AKA hitting the APEX of the corner, then you have max width available to get out of corner. street lines??? just see YOUR LANE as the width of the track... then use what s said earlier: out in out hitting the apex too early? something you need to learn yourself. if you hit it early, you run wide or have to brake extra or have to close throttle... if so, learn from it and do different next time different corners = different apex different weather = different "apex" different bike = different lines aka different apex hope that's what you wanted to know?
@@lillnemo1 you can roll off the gas mid corner. Obviously not abruptly. But if you roll off gently and incrementally you can. Thats how you adjust line mid corner. Shame on you for giving stupid ass advice that can get someone hurt. and better advice would be. Excluding double apexes(really long turns) that require neutral or maintenance throttle (steady throttle to keep you on your line) you can get back on the gas. but dont open up until you can see your exit and gradually take away lean. Again rolling on and off gas is how you adjust your line. more gas = run wide less gas = tighten line. So if you took a corner too fast and find yourself running wide in a corner. look where you need to go and gradually roll off the fucking gas. You can even lightly lightly lightly use the brake. But please remember smoothness is the critical aspect to all of this.
Interesting. You trail brake a lot less than I was expecting...curious what you mean by you're really trying to get the bike hooked up? Do you mean like square off the corner more to get better drive out?
Hi Josh, loved the vid and the straight and honest answers ! Can you do another one on rear break if you are using it ? Also what are these small bikes you are riding. I want to get one for practice as in my area karting tracks are most accessible and also it is a cheap way of practicing
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Can't say ENOUGH how awesome it is to have a PRO-LEVEL rider posting insights, tips, technique, race commentary here on TH-cam. Thanks Josh! SUBSCRIBED!!!
5 finger braking in gravel 9/10 dentists recommend.....
I use 2 hands for that one. Just go into neutral and grab the front lever with both hands
please reiterate.
I only have 4 fingers….
@@DG-ss1gcusing the thumb to brake takes practice 😂
Josh, loved watching you at Road America earlier this month. What a great weekend even with the sketchy weather on Saturday. I'd love to see a video on how you pick and memorize your brake points, apexes, and corner exits, along with gear choice in each corner. I'm sure when you do it every day, it becomes second nature, but as a primarily street rider who's starting to do track days this summer, building the mental frame of mind to deliberately choose those points is decidedly further down the priority list than watching for gravel, deer, oncoming tractors, texting drivers, etc. When I'm way out in the country and can let my guard down a bit, I try to practice that, but unless you go ride the same stretch of road over and over again (not popular with the people living along that stretch), it's difficult to build the visual/muscle memory when each new corner presents it's own set of variables.
Congratulations on your win at Road America! So glad I could witness it first hand, especially the last lap. Also great save on Saturday's race I think lap 3 or 4 almost lost it crossing the white line. Keep the videos coming
Just finished a champ school course and your advice on braking matches theirs. Thanks for the video.
I think he just gave us a 2 in the pink, 1 in the stink lol
Jeffrey Murillo definitely, and he smiled too 😂🤣
😂😂
Go Josh !! What a great guy and one hell of a rider too.
That was easy listening and easy learning. Thanks from Russia ✌🏻
Great video Josh, its great hearing advice from a pro.
I think you deserve so much more subs, this content is worth at least 400 000subs 👍
Just what I wanted to know. Thanks for the tips Josh. Please keep making these videos ✌🏻
Dr Paritosh thanks for watching! 👍🏼
Great video keep them coming!! loving the racing tips and Ohvale :D
Matttodd21 will do. Thank you for the support! 👍🏼
Top lad keep up the hard work and thanks for sharing good advice
Good stuff. Thnx for breakin out the mini bike.
Love the vid josh. Very good insight and advice
Nice one Josh thanx on behalf of all the fans :)
Ashish Kumar Shakya thank you! Your support means a ton! 👍🏼
Love your riding style Josh! Your a Monster on the Suzuki! One thing I have always wondered about braking. Do you use the rear brake and when is the best time to do so?
Neof1gt thank you for the support. I do use the rear brake. I use it while braking straight up and down, while trailing into the corner and especially when I am trying to get the bike to finish the corner. I do not use it to keep the front wheel down, that’s all in the wrist and body position.
We want more of these videos! Educational!
Really hope to see more vids from you bro.my older brother is a big fan of yours and we all hope you didn't quit you tube.
Wait a second...my bike got brakes? Oopsi...that explains a lot. 🤷♂️
@LogicalSense this is a great reply! lol
Hey Josh, thanks again for the great videos. I appreciate the work you put into these. Also, nice work at RA last weekend! Congrats!
Matthew Smith thanks for the support!
@FITNESSOVER45 there are plenty of different riding styles, but no professional rider has his heel on the outside peg. My outside peg is always in the middle of my foot.
Great video! Keep going with tips 😁 hi from Italy 🇮🇹
Great information...as a novice racer, I know this will help my riding so much. 😆❤👍
Karen Grant awesome! Good luck and thank you for watching!
Lmao that 3 finger technique really works, don’t ask me how 🤣🤣
Try to use every single finger. Guarantee you will be amazed;)
Two is best
Jon John girls like 3 lmao 2 in the --- one in the --- lmao that’s why he laughed when he said that
Its natural viagra if that dont work nothin will...give er the shocker😳
how do you know?
Great video, great pilot!!! Thanks for the tips, from a Brazilian fan
I didnt believe you were actually a pro racer until i saw you doing burn outs/doughnuts on that 150cc crotch rocket.. thats just sick dude
u. r. legend.
😂
nick h that’s what made you believe me? 😂
@@joshherrin 😉
I'm not alone. I use my middle and ring finger as well. Sometimes my pinky too. Just how I grew up riding too.
You just described how I locked my rear wheel up at Road Atlanta and dropped my r6 at the entrance of the chicanes lol. I dumped it in the grass and my bike had minor scratch on left Fairing. I, however, have a pretty gross ankle sprain. (I’m a novice)
TOP content right here!
Awesome vid,, hey josh.. are the racing ahead alpinestars knee pucks still made ?? I miss the old soap style
love the videos, Glad to see you on the podium again!
cordovastyle thank you for the support! I really appreciate it!
Josh Herrin you earned it brotha!
Fist braking, it’s good for easing the picker factor! LTM!
Just noticed the front emblem for his name is just like COORS lite 🍻
brandon castillo by far my favorite set of leathers! Alpinestars killed it!
Agreed! Need to find myself a new suit before next Friday at T-Hill. If you’re ever at the track when I am, you got a beer(more like 10) with your name on em
Dude! Haha...
Why is abs good on the street? because the street has oil, coolant, sand from the shoulder or gravel trucks, coffee, nails, trucker bombs and other invisible fod. I have abs fingers but abs sensors are pretty fast and will keep the rubber down if they can. If your trail braking and you roll over something slick like a tar boil it's got a good chance of saving your skin.
Great video! You should make one on the proper way to brake and downshift before a corner.
Those little bikes look like a lot of fun!
Thanks for sharing Josh.
Nice camera work Nick!!
Well I see they hired Toni. I just sent Hammer an email stating that hopefully you get the other seat. Fingers crossed!
Viking Blood 😂 thanks dude!
@@joshherrin After all..it's called Moto America. Not Moto Euro Riders. Damn it!
Can you explain the leg dragging thing that’s become popular? Never quite figured out how you still grab the tank with your knees when you have a leg hanging off the bike... but many top riders are doing it, so I assume it has some purpose?
I suppose it's done after most of the braking, just before the entry
The reason for the leg is its another point of support. Knee puck on the ground use to hold urself up some more. Bars tank ground 3 points of support
But it can only be done with proper setup mainly tires and plenty momentum
@@WRENCHGODLLC you're missing my question... Leg off the bike during braking in a straight line, not in the corner.
@@anidiotinaracingcar Nah if you watch the MotoGP guys you'll see what I mean. It's under hard braking, leg off then putting the foot back on the pegs as they're turning in.
You've got some really well-made content. Bravo. Subscribed!
4:29 I use those two fingers too, lil circular motion with thumb … drives her crazy 😂😂 I gotta try it on the brake lever now tho
I’ve been using my middle and ring finger to brake for the 3 years I’ve been riding. Everyone i know makes fun of me for it lmao. But I like it because I can have my index and thumb around the throttle and it just feels good to me. I’ll show them a photo of you on the brakes next time they say something to me about it lmao.
Middle and ring is the strongest and healthiest two finger combination, because the tendons work in a straight line, while being far right so acting as a bigger lever. If you get used to it you have more power and more precision with same effort. I am a classic first two fingers tho.
Enjoy the bike life 🤙🏁🏆
Awesome content very much needed!!
When you're out there doing minibike training, what skills are you working on?
FasterThanTHAT The skill of having fun.
Leaning
My guess is that he's getting more time riding at the limit of traction, on asphalt, with rubber tires, but with less risk. On the Ovale, I think he can get an experience that is similar to riding a race bike, except he can push the front and crash without worrying too much that he'll get hurt. Also, since the bike is so small, he can work on sliding the rear without worrying about getting thrown off in a massive high side like on a liter-bike. Crashing is also not so bad for the bike since it's so small and light.
The same shit as if he was on a bigger bike
FasterThanTHAT literally, exactly what Aaron wrote. 👍🏼
Amazing stuff once again fellas!
I love this bloke , funny great stuff mate and your finger tech !
G Rider thanks for watching! Glad you like it! 👍🏼
The coors light race suit tho 🤤
Good stuff! Those mini bikes look rad...like some sort of high-performance grom. I'd be interested in a video or series talking about how you approach learning a new track or tough corners. Do you take physical notes on markers? Everything just from memory and seat time? How about your thought progression on going to a track that you haven't been to in a while? It's great hearing the inside scoop on these sorts of things!
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Josh,
regarding the downshifting while braking, it is possible to downshit when not having quickshifter in one action lets say : release throttle, start brake, pull clutch, drop from 6>3 without releasing the clutch and adding between gas with each downshift?
2-3 times per lap adjusting brakes???? that's wild.....
Would like to hear your updated thoughts on ABS and the rear activation on the new Panagali V4S.
Grabbing downshifts as soon as I touch brakes as well, but the bike never feels totally settled into slower corners especially. The straights seem to feel better, but they're usually multiple downs and the slipper is eating like a champ. Any advice for the say, 4 to 3 or 3 to 2 drops? (05 r6 with yoyodyne / 06 r6 stock slipper, EBC friction plates in both).
Track day clinic in this video!
hey josh can you do a body position video please.
team kbr17 I will add it to the list. Thank you for the input. 👍🏼
I need to grab tank grips so bad on my 06 R6, I’m all over the place when braking or even diving into a corner
Insightful thanks Josh!
Thank you for watching!
I didn't expect the tip to adjust your break in sessions so much. My lines could use updating, but they get spongier than I would like after a bit.
What kind of bike was that?
Great video thanks for putting this together.
I met your puppy 6 months ago at Adams, wow she grew up fast!
Mike McKay haha. Awesome! Thanks for watching man! See you at the track again soon! 👍🏼
Great Video! What is that Bike your riding the shit out of?!?
sergelandry73 thank you! It’s an Ohvale 190. You can check them out at risemoto.com 👍🏼
Josh can you make a video for body position on a sportbike?? Distance from the tank, Weight distribution on pegs e.t.c....
Go through this channels there's already at least two
Great video josh my son happened to be over my shoulder watching this video what kind of bike are you using granted I’d buy this for myself since he has a pit bike thanks again brah 🤙🏾
Another great video, thank you. Let's say you have your technique down fairly well and you're consistently getting decent lap times, but are struggling to improve from there. What do you do to make yourself even faster?
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Quite a "shocking" video! 😁 Middle and ring finger... Wow. Thanks for the videos BTW. Keep up the great work.
Rodrigo Naranjo 😂😂😂
What! Who could possibly give a thumbs down. They must not ride
People who think ABS makes the brakes work better! 😂👍🔰
So you get most of your braking done before the turn, and dont trail brake as much. I presume so that you can get back to the throttle as quickly as possible?
I'll be using all those tips on my next track day!
I took the TechSpec pads off of my Street Triple R. Maybe you have a different kind, Josh, but mine felt pretty useless. I just got some StompGrips, and I'm excited about using them once this freaking rain stops!
@LogicalSense which Fellini's? 😜
@LogicalSense I'm up in Smyrna near the baseball stadium and Dobbins, but I'm in North Atlanta almost daily. "My" Fellini's is on Roswell Road not far from Johnny's Hideaway
great tips, keep it going, subscribed
MasterBlasterSr thank you for the support! 👍🏼
Josh sure does know best 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻Adam 🏴
Hi Josh,
Thank you for the awesome material. I have a question for you.
When you are at the end of a long straightway, you shift your body, half butt, to lean, and dip down and drag your knee. While applying the brakes and shifting down the gears, you feel your rear wheel trying to pass forward your front wheel. Is it the moment that you grab the clutch and hit the friction zone to avoid it?
You really need to start using a helmet cam. So we can really come along for a ride.
Arian Kukaj I’ll start including helmet cam footage. 👍🏼
"Some people use three fingers" Yeah, what a shocker ;)
Any tips for budding racers on how to learn 'backing it in' corners. Thanks for the content
Socal supermoto did a video on it as well as a bit of other techniques. Might help.
th-cam.com/video/4mdqrAS2Z3w/w-d-xo.html
you mean on a street/sportsbike? ever so slightly use the rear brake just before you lean into corner and trailbrake it off (sorry, not native english)... mind you, only a VERY small % of riders uses rear brake and of them quite a lot remove a part of brake pad material, so chance of locking up is smaller. Rear brake lock is last you want in a corner
if you have a slipperclutch, just bang down through the gears fast enough and enter corner fast enough, the slipperclutch does the rest.
hope thats the answer you re looking for?
Thanks gents. Much appreciated. I race regionals in South Africa on a 600. My pace is only approximately 1.5secs off the lap record but Ive always keep the wheels tracking straight in the braking zones. A part of me thinks that backing it in might be able to give me a a little bit more pace.
@@lillnemo1 I do have a slipper clutch. I have had instances where the back end will step out after my final down shift but it's never stepped out and stayed that way. So I'm curious as to how to initiate a controlled one and then correct it.
@@masterpayne3791 since you're already racing 600 then maybe Simon Crafar's Motovudu is the way to go. Don't remember if he covers backing it in as separate technique but should certainly discuss it since he enters lot of corners with slightly sliding rear wheel.
Josh, THANKSAMILLION! Pls, keep it coming. Keep workin on the meditation thing, lol. 👍
M Hilde thanks for the support! I’ll try! 😂
Man I have to go back to your new mgkt track heard you added haven't been in a few years
No Brakes_88 it’s called the Herrin Compound now. Search Herrin Compound Discussions in Facebook. You’ll find any info you need there. 👍🏼
Ok cool I'll deff be looking ty keep slaying those corners😎
What's the displacement and weight of that mini-sport? Seems really fast comin' outta the corners and looks like a lot of fun to ride!👊✌
And how much hp/ torque is it pushin. That does look helllaaaaaa fun lol
BikeLife Soldier it’s an Ohvale 190 from risemoto.com. I’m not sure how much it weighs but I can pick it up and load it into my truck by myself. 😂
Haha that bike looks like sooo much fun!! 🥳🥳
Dig what you do. Thanks for the tips.
Man those Ovale’s look fun!
Clifford Mcdonald it’s not possible to explain in words how much fun I have on mine. Priceless.
Thanks I'm switching to the shocker
These small bikes roll around darn fast.
Why am i only just finding this?!
Can you explain counter steering and do you use it to turn a motorcycle every time ?
Josh,
How often do you use the rear brake on track... and how?
rear brake usually used when you ride slowly for comfortable stoping.
@@azwarmuharram2399 Thanks....but I meant on track
@@HemiBurns Sometime before cornering. Combine it with front brake to make the best speed reduction but with little force. If you press to much in high speed, your rear wheel might get slipped. You need to try it in track so you can get the best flow when cornering without losing so much speed.
What that guy said. Also if you very slightly trail the rear brake it will tighten a corner. very slightly. Don't find out what happens if you apply too much
TylerMayhem Lol, thanks for the tip. I don’t want to have a “ fucked up day” 🤣
adjusting your brake lever 2, 3 times a lap?????
About the downshifting, is that with or without slipperclutch? cause I see the guys with the slippers downshift really fast and early without problems cause the rear wheel doesnt lock. I downshift as fast as possible too, without releasing the clutch, but it seems to take longer the old way.
I have to release the clutch slowly, but quite late cause otherwise the speed is too low too soon.
This makes corner entry less easy cause the bike settles quite late.
My mate experiences the same issues.
I have the same thing, sometimes I find it difficult to revmatch when im going from 5th to 2nd gear, and there's more enginebrake than what I wanted, causing me to go slower into the corner than I'd wanted
lillnemo1 maybe more sometimes. That is with a slipper clutch. If you do not have a slipper clutch you just need to let the clutch out slowly for a smooth entry to the corner. I never make all of my downshifts in the same clutch pull. I grab and release the clutch in between each downshift.
You were way too serious with your instruction. What happened to taking the piss and making us think what’s real and what’s not? 😂😂 just kidding. Great video.
Trevor Groeneveld don’t worry. They’ll be back. I just have to make sure people know it’s a joke. They take these videos way too serious. That’s a good thing, I guess.
Love the vids like these, but I still wonder why a lot of racers dont seem to rev match when down shifting? Maybe they have slipper clutches so it isnt neccesary... I've never ridden a bike with a slipper so i always rev match. I've always wondered why racers dont seem to
Garrett Smith my stock GSX-R1000 comes with an auto blipped. I do not need to use the clutch or rev the bike when I down shift. It does it on its own.
Did anyone else catch the race shifter setup when he is talking about downshifting around 8:00?
Do you rev match when downshifting and have to use a clutch? Or have you pros got some weird system haha
You gotta make a wheelie tip video !!
David Urena just lean that is probably the last thing I will be giving instruction on. Maybe we can do a video where a real wheelie pro teaches me, which in turn, teaches you. 👍🏼
I am a little confused about the dynamic of quickly down shifting as soon as the braking starts. I am thinking of RPM's and the rear if done quickly at 160+ mph. How quick is this? Is it done late with hard breaking so that the bike slows down quick enough so you 're not in too low of a gear for the speed?
I use tec spec 2... See everyone...
I told you I was cool!
Thank you.
Any word on whats up for next season yet. I read the news. They better keep you. All I gotta say!
I don’t know anything yet. Hopefully soon. Thanks for the support!
Any tips on the basic form of throttle control and countersteering? IE for street riding... staying in your lane without going too wide or hitting the apex too early or knowing street lines?
both 2 first questions, shame on you if you really have to ask.
Throttle control? dont ever get OFF the gas in a corner, start giving throttle ONLY if you can keep it open.
Starting throttle is ALWAYS gentle, never jerk the gas open. If you have a jerky bike, start opening the throttle just that eeniewieny tiny bit earlier, so your bike settles a bit before you realy start giving gas. Sometimes this means even before the corner or apex.
Countersteering is something natural.
99.9999999% of time you dont even realize you push the bar.
You lean the bike by hanging off a bit (which causes the bike to countersteer by itself) and "push" the wrong side of the bar. For left corner "push" right bar forward.
While riding, you dont use more than 15degrees steering angle on the tightest corner... Thats how little steering input you need!!! more angle is only for parking, manouvering..
You dont keep pushing the steering, just initiate the corner....
street riding? if you go wide after the corner, you were inside too much before it.
It's always the same thing, be it on track or street; outside, inside, outside.
So if you live where people drive on the right side of the road and you take a right corner: keep as far left as possible on YOUR lane, "steer in as late as possible", go as far right as possible in the corner AKA hitting the APEX of the corner, then you have max width available to get out of corner.
street lines??? just see YOUR LANE as the width of the track... then use what s said earlier: out in out
hitting the apex too early? something you need to learn yourself. if you hit it early, you run wide or have to brake extra or have to close throttle... if so, learn from it and do different next time
different corners = different apex different weather = different "apex" different bike = different lines aka different apex
hope that's what you wanted to know?
@@lillnemo1 you can roll off the gas mid corner. Obviously not abruptly. But if you roll off gently and incrementally you can. Thats how you adjust line mid corner. Shame on you for giving stupid ass advice that can get someone hurt.
and better advice would be. Excluding double apexes(really long turns) that require neutral or maintenance throttle (steady throttle to keep you on your line) you can get back on the gas. but dont open up until you can see your exit and gradually take away lean.
Again rolling on and off gas is how you adjust your line. more gas = run wide less gas = tighten line. So if you took a corner too fast and find yourself running wide in a corner. look where you need to go and gradually roll off the fucking gas. You can even lightly lightly lightly use the brake. But please remember smoothness is the critical aspect to all of this.
Interesting. You trail brake a lot less than I was expecting...curious what you mean by you're really trying to get the bike hooked up? Do you mean like square off the corner more to get better drive out?
Where is that race track located? Great Videos.
Can you make video explaining how to back it in?
Hi Josh, loved the vid and the straight and honest answers ! Can you do another one on rear break if you are using it ? Also what are these small bikes you are riding. I want to get one for practice as in my area karting tracks are most accessible and also it is a cheap way of practicing
Great tips!
Hey Josh, what is that stationary structure with a tank and seat right behind you in the video?