DeLonghi Dedica EC685 - Programming the Perfect Shot
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 มิ.ย. 2024
- The Delonghi Dedica EC680 and EC685 doses by water volume, not by time. In this tutorial, I show you how to program the buttons for the perfect volumetric dose.
▼ Click "show more" for product links.
----------------------------------Products used/recommended in this video-------------------------------------------------
(these are affiliate links that help fund videos like this, at no extra cost to you)
Impactful Accessories, starting with the most important:
► Double Basket by IMS (H26):
🇺🇸 amzn.to/3W6ihf2
🇩🇪 amzn.to/3H9lk1s
🇬🇧 amzn.to/3NmxVlS
🇨🇦 amzn.to/3H1MQyr
🇪🇺 geni.us/DeLonghi_IMS_Basket (EU/AU global link)
► Bottomless Portafilter, for diagnosing shots:
🇺🇸 amzn.to/3zA5k50 (alu) or 🇺🇸 amzn.to/3WoiHPu (wood)
🇩🇪 amzn.to/354PYZX
🇬🇧 amzn.to/3Voa6Mn
🇨🇦 amzn.to/3w18P1L
🇪🇺 geni.us/BottomlessPF (EU/AU global link)
► Calibrated Tamper, to compact coffee puck:
🇺🇸 amzn.to/3oLdsNd
🇩🇪 amzn.to/40TtgLp
🇬🇧 amzn.to/3VnZ0Hs
🇨🇦 amzn.to/3Hr30RB
🇪🇺 geni.us/51mmTamperCalibrated (EU/AU global link)
► Timed Espresso Scale, to measure shots:
🇺🇸 amzn.to/3M3jodT
🇩🇪 amzn.to/3p9YeBH
🇬🇧 amzn.to/42bYUFf
🇪🇺 geni.us/EspressoScale (CA/EU/AU global link)
► WDT Stirring tool, to distribute grounds:
🇺🇸 amzn.to/3L71pBu
🇩🇪 amzn.to/41LUrZA
🇬🇧 amzn.to/3Nhx6ur
🇪🇺 geni.us/WDT_Tool (CA/EU/AU global link)
► 51mm Dosing Funnel, to avoid mess:
🇺🇸 amzn.to/3NmnbEa
🇩🇪 amzn.to/3AyaDSu
🇬🇧 amzn.to/3B1fGem
🇪🇺 geni.us/51mmFunnel (CA/EU/AU global link)
► Puck Knock Box (made in Italy):
🇺🇸 amzn.to/3HMLzel
🇩🇪 amzn.to/3B0IG5P
🇬🇧 amzn.to/42hcQy0
🇪🇺 geni.us/DelonghiKnockBox (CA/EU/AU global link)
Last but not least, a capable grinder is necessary. Here are some suggestions:
► Grinder Suggestions: kit.co/tomscoffeecorner/grind... (Amazon)
📖 Blog Article: tomscoffeecorner.com/delonghi...
🛠 All the Dedica Gear: kit.co/tomscoffeecorner/delon... (Amazon)
(*As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases)
Join the coffee club! (subscribe): th-cam.com/users/TomsCoffeeC...
For a standard 14 gram filter, I aim for 28 grams of espresso, in 20-25 seconds. By using a scale with an integrated timer, I can just hold the button down until the desired amount has been reached. Upon releasing the button, the amount in milliliters has been programmed. This perfect dosing, in volumetric fashion, makes the DeLonghi Dedica a winner in my book.
0:00 Intro
0:12 Grinding Espresso
0:24 Espresso Distribution
0:48 Program volumetric dose by Pressing and Holding button
1:11 Espresso recipe ratio = 2:1
1:20 Result with luscioius crema
DISCLOSURE: Some of the links on this page are affiliate links, meaning, at no additional cost to you, I may earn a commission if you click through and make a purchase and/or subscribe. Affiliate commissions help fund videos like this one.
#delonghidedica #tomscoffeecorner #perfectshot - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
![How to perfect shot espresso you Delonghi Dedica EC685 with Bottomless Portafilter [Brew Ratio 1:2]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/O3-hGeee73w/mqdefault.jpg)
Thanks for watching! 🙋🏼♂️ Equipment reviews and pricing in the description box ⬆️ above.
Want to support the channel? Shop Amazon with my affiliate link: amzn.to/3tU9btX (it doesn't cost you anything more, but I earn a small provision if you buy anything).
@@GriuGriu64 Nope, pre-infusion is fixed.
Do they not sell that scale on Amazon?? I saw it was a different scale when I clicked on the link, and that one you have looks pretty sturdy.
What is pre-fusion time?
@@absolutelybtful It's this one: amzn.to/3BVOcXW
That actually looked perfect and exactly how an espresso should look like!! Wish more people understood this
This is exactly what I needed to know, thank you!
Glad it was helpful, Luis! Thanks for watching!
thanks a lot, I am using Delonghi for years!
and never know how to programming it.
I have to double press the button to make it stop when required amount reached.
Top Channel!
I bought a De'Longhi Dedica Style. Enjoying the whole coffee making experiance!
Any doubts, I’ll turn to "Tom's Coffee Corner" 😊👍
Thanks and all the best!
Oh man I’ve been looking for a video like this. Thank you! What kind of basket is that? Looking to change mine out as well. :) thanks again!
Glad it was helpful, Henry! I have a link to the basket in the description. Otherwise, I will post it here as well: amzn.to/3BGoDZ6
Happy coffee drinking! -Tom
Nice video! Just bough a DeLonghi Dedica, and it's so nice to see how to prepare a great espresso shot. By the way, where can I get this nice measuring cup?
Hi Tom, this video was so so helpful. And just wondering what size of tamper you use for EC685, thanks 😊
Hey there Gong! I am glad the video was helpful. I use a 51mm tamper. There should be a link in the description to give an example. Happy coffee drinking! 🙋🏼♂
This video is very helpful. Thanks Tom! Your channel is the go to place for Delonghi Dedica Users. I had a few questions though if you would be kind enough to answer it
1. What is the exact extraction time for the 14g bottomless shot?
2. My Bottomless portafilter basket has a lot of space left between the tamped coffee and the brim when I’m pulling out 14g shots. Whereas, with 18g it fills up appropriately. Would this space affect the quality of the shot?
Also, Can you please make a video for single shots (7-10g) for the Delonghi Dedica with the bottomless portafilter?
Hi there! Thank you for your kind feedback.
I would say to aim for 25-30 seconds for a double, including preinfusion. A single will probably be shorter to pull. I could make a video...it's harder to pull singles, since the baskets are so shallow. Which single basket are you using? A Graef?
Cheers, Tom
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Hey Tom I'm currently using the 18 gram basket that came along with the bottomless portafilter. I use it sometimes for making 14 gram shots and sometimes even 10 gram shots. I'm planning to get a Graef basket for the 10 gram single shot. But I'm wondering whether it would be worth it or not?
Hello. I put 17gram coffee and i keep the button until 35gr espresso. But the dedica don't keep the time for the next coffee. And run the coffe without stopping. Maybe i make o fault?
Hey Tom, thanks for your videos - you gave me the confidence to do the steam wand mod and it worked out great.
Maybe a stupid question - I notice everyone seems to do double shots but is there any disadvantage to doing single shots? eg is the extraction as good. I use 14g coffee at the moment but drink quite short milk drinks so could drop to like 10g/.
Hi there. Double shots are easier to pull. The single baskets are not as deep, and therefore not as forgiving. But you can try to perfect that, if you like. In Italy, they mostly make single shots. Cheers!
You use 14g for a single shot?
that crema is insane
I'll take that as a compliment. 😎
@@TomsCoffeeCorner but how????
@@nhatthaisanhhoang2247fresh beans and fine grind
Hi Tom, I love your video thank you for all the hard work. Can I just check what is the setting for the grind on your eureka for this pull? And what roast is your beans?
Med dark roast, and about 2 notches off of calibration point on the Eureka. Cheers!
Thank you
Hey Tom, did you have to keep programming the water volume every time if you didn't get the grind size and extraction correct?
Or could you program the water beforehand and use the same setting water setting every time?
You only have to program once. Cheers!
Hi, Tom. I hope you will read it :-) First, I am impressed by your knowledge and time dedicated to run this channel, stunning! It made me buy Dedica 685 plus metal nozzle for improving steam wand and, at last, NPF to see those beautiful tiger strips on liquid running into a cup. As I am waiting for the delivery I got a question. Your espressos look beautiful, you mentioned you worked on pro machines, so how good espresso could Dedica made if everything is done as it should be? Would you compare it somehow to espressos done by pro machines you used to work with? Will shots from De'Longhi make smile on my face by feeling something extraordinary in my mouth? Or rather the shots from 685 won't be in any way comparable and not even close to those produced by, at least say: Gaggia Classic, Rancilio Silvia, Lelit Anna? Thanks for your reply, my best regards to you.
Hi there! Well, I think you need to put things into perspective. In the EU, the Dedica only costs €150. For that price point and a couple of mods, it provides a very good result. You will probably need to surf a little with the steam mode hack, to get the temp up. I have used Dalle Corte machines, costing more than my car. Those provided of course better espresso. But you have to consider that those machines run 12 hours a day, so they are at perfect temperature, along with their pre-warmed cups, they have a consistent workflow (temp and pressure curves), and the espresso beans were top notch.
To render the situation, I do not think that a GCP or Silvia, which cost 3x more, make 3x better espresso. You will have to experiment for yourself. Cheers! Tom
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thank you for your kind answer, I'll be experimenting and, hopefully, sharing my thoughts and excitement here on your channel, and of course watching it to gain more and more knowledge to make my espresso as good as possible. Cheers!
Great video Tom as always. I am struggling with the extraction time on my dedica. Although I use the finest grind setting on my Brevile espresso grinder, for 18 gr coffee with 1:2 ratio, extraction takes 20s only. I use an IMS filter with a calibrated tamper. I have used other unpressurised baskets and have same problem. Any idea?
Hey Saeed, which model grinder are you using? How hard are you tamping? I have worked on professional machines before, and the pressure of the tamp does make a marked difference. If I would tamp medium, the shot would run in 12s. If I would tamp as hard as I could, it would run in 22s.
My grinder is Breville dose control pro and my tamp pressure is about 15-20 kg. The only way for me to achieve a 30 s extraction is to use 20gr dose of coffee with the finest setting on the grinder!
1:15 Hi, I have few questions. Shouldn’t you stop at 25 or less grams to have 28 g in the cup? Right now I see that you got 33.2 g which not actual 1:2 ratio.
When you stop at 28 g isn’t still extracting as liquid is still running to your cup?
Also, about 1:2 ratio and time for 14 g coffee. Should it also be 25-30 s? I saw a lot of videos and read articles, but most of them were using 18-20 g of coffee and were suggesting 25-30 s. So I wonder if time should be the same or shorter for 14 g.
Thanks in advance! :}
Hi there! Yes, you could stop in advance. I just try to switch the cups out quickly. You can still attain a 2:1 ratio with 14 grams, but only if you are using fresh beans and grind fine enough. In the meantime however, I am using the Dedica with about 16 grams, and aiming for 30-35g out. Cheers!
hello tom, can you recommended any good quality ground coffee for this machine I onw one EC885 and I can't make a good creamer espresso
Hey there, are you using the single wall, or dual wall basket? With the dual wall, just about any pre-ground coffee should work. But with the single wall, like in my video, you need fresh coffee and a fine grind. Cheers!
Which settings are you using in your setup on the dedica? So low/medium/high temperature and pressure?
Hey Philipp! I use high temperature, and I tamp to aim for 9 bars of pressure. See my other videos for reference. 🙋🏼♂️
Hi, great video. Just one question. Does the machine record the programmable dose based on output volume or time? Thanks
Hey Firhan, that is the good thing, it is based on volume. Cheers!
Thanks so much!!
What a load of nonsense grind pack press pour drink! Get over yourselves it’s a cup of coffee!
I have the same machine and have a delonghi burr grinder what settings should I use for the fine grind?, All I have on the grinder is fine medium coarse control and how many cups
Hello Richard, thanks for your comment. What model of grinder do you have? You may have to do a modification to it, in order for it to grind fine enough for espresso.
Hey Tom,
When you program the buttons, do you have to reset the machine to reprogram or will a new program over write the previous one?
They get overwritten. Cheers!
Hello Tom I like your videos...!!!Why 14gr ? 18 or 16 ?I have the dedica . For the dedica the 14gr is the right dose?Of course with naked portafilter.And the time is right to count when hit the bouton?Or in the first drop? Thank you!!!
Hi! A double is traditionally 14-16 grams, but it really has to do with volume. You need to fill the basket and tamp it, so that there is still a few mm of head space above the puck. This generally translates to 14-16 grams, depending on the roast. Cheers!
PS - I start counting my shot when pressing the button, since that is when the process starts, and when the coffee puck starts absorbing the brew water.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thank you Tom...!!!
is it possible to get a bigger basket for it ? my doubles with my Breville Barista are usually 17-18g , i want to install the 685 at my girlfriends place, would like to get a bit more coffee in it :) @@TomsCoffeeCorner
Hi Tom! I follow the 14g of espresso. I'm using DF64 grinder and bottomless portafilter. But I'm getting watery output. What do you think is the problem? TIA!
Hello there! Yes, your beans are probably too old - or in other words roasted too long ago.
These videos may help:
How to extract the perfect espresso: th-cam.com/video/piO6c695Op8/w-d-xo.html
How to Get Crema: th-cam.com/video/00NSG9459a8/w-d-xo.html
Why Supermarket Coffee Beans are RUINING your Espresso! th-cam.com/video/5BgMKqu8fJI/w-d-xo.html
Tom, can you do a video on turbo shots with the Dedica?
That's not a bad idea. I will see about that. Cheers!
Hast du den Porta noch weiter ausgeschnitten? Ich finde keinen, der sein Ende so nah am basket hat. Hatte gehofft dein Amazon Link hilft da, aber die sind auch alle so weit entfernt vom unteren Rand des baskets. Coole Videos 👍👍👍
Wooow.... Hab Grad dein anderes Video zu dem Thema gefunden 😅😅😅
Servus Maxi! Ja, du kannst den einfach so abschneiden, wie du es haben magst. Der Siebträger ist aus Alu, und dementsprechend leicht zu Sägen. Schöne Grüße! Tom
Looks really beautiful!! Should the extraction time for the single and double shot be the same?
I find different answers and opinions everywhere..
Singles generally are shorter. You could also split a double into two shot glasses.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner i just managed to get the single shot out in 21 seconds.. but it tasted quite sour.. a thing that is happens when the extraction is too short.. any ideas how to fix this?
Question @Tom: I think my coffee grind size from local roaster is too fine… no coffee coming out with dedica’s baskets… would using a bottomless portafilter help?
Well, the bottomless is great, because you can see what's happening. So yes, I'd recommend one. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thank you..
I think I’m having the same issue.. any luck figuring it out?
@@joshsterckx I ended up getting different coffee beans and grinding myself. I’m using a hand grinder. It feels amazing to smell the coffee as you grind the beans
I have a dump question. How are your settings? Temperature and water pressure? Both on 3?
You can’t set the water pressure, but I have temperatures set on high. Cheers!
Testing for krups virtuoso?
Hi Tom :) I enjoy my double espresso shots, but i have issues both with single and double shots when it comes to timing (with the baskets & portafilter that ship with the machine). My espresso (including preinfusion) runs through in like 12-15 seconds - any advice on what I can do there? Taste is good as far as I'm concerned. I have a graef cm 800 coffee mill set to 9 as my grinder
Hello there! Yes, your beans are probably too old - or in other words roasted too long ago.
These videos may help:
How to extract the perfect espresso: th-cam.com/video/piO6c695Op8/w-d-xo.html
How to Get Crema: th-cam.com/video/00NSG9459a8/w-d-xo.html
Why Supermarket Coffee Beans are RUINING your Espresso! th-cam.com/video/5BgMKqu8fJI/w-d-xo.html
Is the basket/portafilter pressurized? if not, you are grinding too coarse. If it is pressurized, buy a botomless porta and an IMS filter as advised on this video. Hope that helps.
@datahop It is pressurized! If I grind finer, the Espresso becomes very bitter though
@@LieberLois and longer than 30secs to 30 gr to pour? In muy case, turning to unpressurized helped a lot
Hi, if I want a double shot I need to fill the basket twice, each time doing 2:1 ratio?
Hi Alfred, a double is done with 14-16 grams in a double basket. Cheers!
Hi Tom, i just got my hand on EC885. I was wondering, the setting is to set the volume or the time? I try setting it to 30 sec, but it always give me inconsistent time
Hi, it's based on volume. There is a little water counter in the machine, that knows how much water is flowing. I would suggest getting a scale, and holding down your shot button to get for example 30 grams.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Somehow i found it is not very consistent. Using the same setting, the volume i get with coffee and without coffee is different. Do you encounter such problem?
Helpful video. I have problem when i want set volume nothing happens. It is always the same size no metter is 1 or 2 cups. I made reset and it is the same. Do you have any advice? Thnak you. Ivana
Have you tried holding the button down? That should save the volume for you.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner it works! Thank you!!
Hi, Are you using the single shot button to reach 25-30seconds extraction for espresso?
You can use either button to program however much you want. 👍🏻
Thank you for respond.
If i use 14g for double, the 28g coffe drink weight is not enough for ideal ratio?
Well, you could adjust it to taste, but the 2:1 ratio is the current standard in most regions I know.
Hi tom , wbt the temperature did u set it on ? Medium/ high ?
Hello! I’ve got it set on high temperature.
Thank you for the inspiring video. I can see you replaced the steamer. I recently replaced my dedica steamer with the rancilio silvia steaming wand compatible with dedica. I haven't been able to foam my milk since 😭 all I am getting is hot milk, no foam at all. The wand comes with 1 hole tip, and 3 holes tip. I tried both, with glorious failure 😭😭
Question 1: Which tip is better?
Question 2: What should I do to foam my milk using this new wand?
Hey Omar, thanks for the good question.
1) I only have the 1 hole tip, so I cannot comment on the 3 hole tip. But my experience with other machines is that the 3 hole tip will be faster at steaming.
2) As you probably know, the most important thing to do after adding a bit of air in the milk, is to get the milk SWIRLING. To do this, try placing the tip of the steam wand JUST under or at the surface of the milk, really CLOSE to the edge of the pitcher. Try adjusting the angle of the pitcher to the steam wand too, to get the swirl going. Once you get a swirl, don't change the angle, just keep the swirl going.
*I will probably soon make a video with the mod, how to steam milk with the Rancilio wand.
Happy coffee drinking!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner
Hey Tom, thank you for the prompt response. I will try your advice and let you know. Keep up the good videos. Cheers.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Did everything and the result is absolute failure :(
I am considering reinstalling my original Dedica steamer, I was doing much better with it!
Could it possibly be that not much steam is coming out? If the connection has not been made very securely, you may have less steam than you need. I made this video as an appendix, to show how to make sure that the hose is attached securely.
Attaching hose to rancilio wand: th-cam.com/video/ztcWy0PIFws/w-d-xo.html
@@TomsCoffeeCorner
I will check, although it heats the milk without a problem.
Hi Tom, I notice you dedica doesn't vibrate much nor does make so much noise, like mine. What can I do ?
Hmm, I’m not all that sure. How old is your machine? Does it rattle because of the pump, or is it just the water tank lid that’s rattling?
Which grind size you use? Medium to fine or fine? I’ve seen in the manual book if use portafilter from delonghi we just can use medium to fine grind size
Shoot for fine enough to make a 2:1 ratio shot take around 25 seconds.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner 25 sec for single espresso? For double espresso how many seconds?
@@carnage8068 I'd say 20-25 seconds for a double with this machine, and 10-15 seconds for a single should be possible.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner big thanks for the info broo 🔥🙏
Hi do you reccomend buying the EC685 or the EC785 that i found cheaper?
Get the EC785! It comes with a tamper and pitcher. ;)
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thank you so much I'll get that one right away 😀
Hey! How many grams has your basket ? I am trying to get the perfect crema out of this Dedica :)
Hello there! 14 grams. Cheers!
What's the grind number setting on the Specialita?
Hey Cristi, I have mine zeroed at -1. And I normally run it at 0 for Lavazza beans, or +1 for freshly roasted beans.
Wie kriegst du diese wunderschöne Crema hin? Das ist bei mir viel weniger 😢 Mahle ich zu grob? Zu fein? Tampe ich zu fest oder zu schwach? Oder ist es die Menge an Kaffeemehl?
Servus!
I’m guessing that your beans are probably too old - or in other words roasted too long ago.
Check out this short blog post: tomscoffeecorner.com/what-are-the-best-beans-for-espresso/
These videos may also help:
How to Get Crema: th-cam.com/video/00NSG9459a8/w-d-xo.html
Why Supermarket Coffee Beans are RUINING your Espresso! th-cam.com/video/5BgMKqu8fJI/w-d-xo.html
How to estimate bean roast age for Lavazza: th-cam.com/users/liveQmVRpBGOokE
How to extract the perfect espresso: th-cam.com/video/piO6c695Op8/w-d-xo.html
***I’d recommend looking on google maps for local coffee roasters. That's the best way to ensure freshly roasted beans.
Cheers,
Tom
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thanks very much!
I can't get any crema, I'm using pre-ground espresso coffee. Do I need to invest in a grinder?
Yes, that is really the key, plus fresh beans. Here is a list of grinders, which includes also some cheaper options: kit.co/tomscoffeecorner/grinder-suggestions (Amazon)
do I have to press and hold every time or is it saved in the machine?
It's saved. Even if you unplug it. Cheers!
Can be problem of my coffee run too fast because i use medium roasted beans and not dark?
No, not really. It most likely has to do with using beans that are too old. I’m afraid you will just have to experiment, and find some better beans. They should ideally be between two and six weeks off of roast date.
Whats the best cheap grinder you suggest that does from 1 cup up not 2?
Hi! Eureka Manuale/Notte/Fascile
@@TomsCoffeeCorner having issues getting the right settings using my dedica 685. trying to do a double espresso and just cant get it right. trying to work out why your maths is a ristretto instead haha. also my sage grinder pro is really inconsistent
can you please tell me the coffee you used? or recommend option to get that crema. Using same machine with burr grinder have not had a shot with so much crema
That was with Lavazza I think, the purple espresso bag. But you have to be careful of the roast date. These were just 6 weeks old.
Quel café utilisez-vous merci
Hey James, these are a few I have used in my videos: kit.co/tomscoffeecorner/coffee-beans
Hallo. Wenn ich bei 28-30g, also 2:1 bin stoppe ich ca eine Zeit von 19 Sekunden. Das ist zu schnell oder ? Wie kann ich das beeinflussen ?
Das ist schon nicht zu schlecht. Vielleicht a bissl feiner mahlen, dass du 22-25 Sekunden erreicht. Oder auch, frischere Bohnen. Gruss!
What I knew that the programing and the timer starts with the 1st coffee drop. But u start machine and timer at the same moment. Which may cause a difference by 8 sec. Maybe I am wrong. But this is how I program min.
Best regards
Hello Hesham, this is pretty heavily debated. Some say first drop, others say when the pump turns on. The important thing is to be in the ballpark (25-35 seconds let’s say), and it should be reproducible. Also, you have to trust your taste buds as well. The espresso taste will ultimately tell you if the espresso was over (bitter) or under (sour) extracted.
Cheers ☕️
Tom
What temperature setting is the best or you prefer?
Hey Titan, I use the hot setting, ala this video: th-cam.com/video/M8NBbSyHDO0/w-d-xo.html
There is a lot of space between the thermocoil and the brewgroup, so the hotter the better, due to heat loss.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner thanks Tom. Great video by the way.
@@Titan-Jil Thanks buddy!
Hi Tom! Love your videos. They all seem made just for me. Haha. I bought the Bottomless portafilter, but I don't have a scale and My coffee grinder is just a grinder from hamilton beach, like a 20 dollar one that i've been using for like 3 years now.( Baratza Sette 30 will come tomorrow though! yay! ) Currently my espresso is channeling bad and the creme is not forming well and is pretty bitter ( I can now see it because of the bottomless filter). The Creme was pretty decent with the pressurized filter, but i think thats the idea. ( Don't have to have consistent grind, don't have to tamp it perfectly) Im doing it all by eye but im not even sure im putting enough grounds, or too much , not tamping it enough or too much. Going to invest in a scale. Any recommendations for a decent one that won't break the bank? and thanks for the programming video ! Didn't even know I could do that! Have a great rest of your week buddy!
Hey Charles! Thanks so much for your feedback! Yes, the bottomless portafilter will expose all issues, and with a non-pressurized basket it is up to YOU to make the resistance of the coffee puck. But, ot is totally worth it.
I bought the Timemore scale for I think around $60. It is a real nice scale with built in timer. Check out my review here if you are interested: th-cam.com/video/2oEznPqdW70/w-d-xo.html
Have a good one! 🙋🏼♂️
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Got it Ill deff check it out! My Sette Grinder came in this evening and I tried it for the first time and the espresso barely even came out of the bottom. LOL. I had the grinder set to 7 so I will have to do some dialing in for sure. And also I noticed that when I tamp ,the tamper seems to get stuck when I press down past a certain depth. Errggggg. I have a ways to go and different things to try but it will be a fun journey! Thanks for your videos!
You should invest in a decent grinder instead. The 20 bucks grinder is exposing your coffee beans with too much heat and therefore you lose the majority of the taste. Grinding your coffee with a better tool will instantly give you a better taste and it will also help you to eliminate a lot of the channeling issue that you currently have because the coffee powder is more evenly
Sage Grinder Pro is a good way to start...
@@MrCellz69 Oh Agree. Yea I actually Had the Baratza Sette 30 coming in the mail when I posted that. Here's a video I made with it. I love this grinder! th-cam.com/video/pGe0bw1lXPw/w-d-xo.html
my machine cant produce such a cream :( I tried with lower grind but it got stuck and dont drip at all. I use the handle from your links here. I noticed in this video that you're using the stock handle but cutted ? ?
Hello there!
I’m guessing that your beans are probably too old - or in other words roasted too long ago.
Check out this short blog post: tomscoffeecorner.com/what-are-the-best-beans-for-espresso/
These videos may also help:
How to Get Crema: th-cam.com/video/00NSG9459a8/w-d-xo.html
Why Supermarket Coffee Beans are RUINING your Espresso! th-cam.com/video/5BgMKqu8fJI/w-d-xo.html
How to estimate bean roast age for Lavazza: th-cam.com/users/liveQmVRpBGOokE
How to extract the perfect espresso: th-cam.com/video/piO6c695Op8/w-d-xo.html
***I’d recommend looking on google maps for local coffee roasters. That's the best way to ensure freshly roasted beans.
Cheers,
Tom
@@TomsCoffeeCorner ah maybe, i also find that, you use ims basket on this handle, i've to get one. Thank you for everything !
أريد واحدة كم تمنها
Hey Tom I tried to program my cups but it stops then nothing happens any idea what could be wrong machine is new?
The only thing I can think is to check your water level in your tank...
@@TomsCoffeeCorner checked that I think this machine is going back 2 days old 😔
Thanks for your help
How I have to press and hold after all bottoms flashing , but it didn’t came like this , please explain
If all the buttons are flashing, then it may still be too hot from steaming. You can just wait for it to cool down, or you could turn it off then on, to clear the fault.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner is it all bottons need to be stand before I press the single shot and do I have stay pressing the botton till it release
Bei mir kommt gar kein Kaffee raus! Wenn ich nur Wasser durchlasse, dann funktioniert es wunderbar. Ich habe schon alle verschiedene Mahlgrade durchgetestet. Von Espresso bis French Press. Genau das gleiche Ergebnis. Das Wasser staut sich im Filter vor dem Kaffee. Irgendwas stimmt bei meiner Maschine überhaupt nicht.
Bin ich blöd? I bought the bottomless portafilter from Amazon and it says you can put 16-18g in it but i couldnt even fit 15g in it, it just ends in a big mess all the time. Most youtube videos say 18g is the best for the double with like 40g out. I have the little Timemore C3 ESP grinder and the first try ended in a mess because the espresso wont fit. Is there a model that can really take 18g? The espresso i did tastes sour like hell and also a bit bitter. I bought a cheap Lavazza red to try out but maybe i should have bought a better one even for testing because if the lavazza is bad i can try my *** off and it will lead to nothing :)
There's different depths of IMS baskets. I use 26mm, but there's also 32mm. That would fit a really large dose: amzn.to/3KmThNO
Are you sure you're grinding fine enough? I will say this - espresso requires experimentation and patience.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I ordered the shorter one and one thing i noticed is that the frames are wider which is not really compatible to this magnetic funnel tool i have but it still works ok. Others than that i like it because it gos easy in and out of the portafilter unlike the original baskets that came with the portafilters i bought on amazon for the Dedica. To teh grind size, i have the C3 ESP Pro grinder and i use number 7, they recommend number 10 - 8 fir espresso, so i guess i am on the finer side :)
Anyway i think it works fine now, at least the brew ratio and the time seems to be correct for me as a beginner. It wasnt that hard, maybe 4 more attempts. In case of taste i am not sure because i just dont know how a really perfect espresso should taste, for me they are always kind of bitter and my espresso also tastes bitter but im not sure if that is normal or not, i think every espresso is kind of bitter, the question is how much is normal. I made a video of the extraction, i think it looks normal ? th-cam.com/video/kJlsXYvcOS8/w-d-xo.html in that video i used the original basket.
Hallo Tom, Ich habe auch das selbe gerät aber Espresso die gerade trinke ist irgendwie bisschen flüssig und nicht so intensiv was muss ich tun muss Ich mir ein bodenloser Portafilter kaufen? Wenn Ja, welche würden sie mir empfehlen? Danke.
Servus! Hast du schon eine gute Muehle? Wenn nicht, dann brauchst du sie als erstes kaufen. Einen bodenlosen Siebtraeger mit Sieb ist dann immer gut. Das hier sind die guenstigsten die ich in Deutschland kenne, die auch was taugen:
Graef CM702: amzn.to/3H7GiwR
Bodenloser ST mit Sieb: amzn.to/3kIOY5r
Gute Bohnen: amzn.to/403zbhs
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Herzlichen Dank für die hilfreiche Antwort. Bin abonniert 👍
Hallo Tom, ich habe das Graef 702 gekauft aber die mühle hat mir nicht gefallen weil es mühlt zu dünn fürs Espresso Mahlgrad ob bei 5 oder beim 15 mühlt das selbe. Hast du vielleicht tipps für mich? Lg.
What's the brand model of the scale you are using in this video??
Hello Ioannis, it's the Timemore Black Mirror. Here's a link for pricing and reviews: amzn.to/2Zo88CE
Happy coffee drinking!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner When you put a cup for cappuccino under the port a filter the scale doesn't fit in.Does it?
Yes it does, because the bottomless portafilter is much less deep than the stock portafilter. 👍🏻
@@TomsCoffeeCorner yes indeed. But the problem is not with the depth of the metal of the port a filter , but with the point where the black plastic handle joints the diameter of the port a filter.The edge of the cup will be in contact with this point of the handle because of the thickness of the scale and will not fit.Is that right?
Well, that depends on the height of your cups. Some of my cups fit, others don't. I'd say the clearance is good though, compared to other machines.
Sry but i don’t understand one important thing. If italian espresso national institute tells that single coffee is with 7 gr in and 25 ml out (about 27-28 gr maybe), how can it be that is a ratio of 1:2 or 1:2.5? This rules is ok only for two coffee right? With 14gr in and 28gr out, the same that you have done in this video! However thanks for your video, it’s so helpful and sry for my bad english! 😅
Hey Gianluca! Your English is just fine, and thanks for your question. 👍🏻
The typical ratio talked about in English speaking countries seems to be a 1:2 ratio. I have also been to Italy, and I thought they made it the same.
Do you have a link to the certified Italian espresso ratio? I could not find one myself. Cin cin! Arrividerce! Tom
@@TomsCoffeeCorner yes of course, i have i link but i don’t know why youtube remove my post
@@gianlucaugolini3796 Yeah, I don't know...I looked at a website but it didn't mention anything about brew ratios. But you are the italian, so I trust you. ;) I will try one of these ratios later today...
@@TomsCoffeeCorner in the pdf there isn’t something that talk of brew ratio, i have done myself a simple calculation with 7gr in and 25 gr out isn’t 1:2 that use all the world for standard espresso 🤣. Maybe our espresso is standard and the other are double espresso? However with you coffee machine you can try what change with 7gr in and 28 out and 14 in and 28 out 😉
Noticed that you changed the steam wand.
Hey Alex, yes I did. I made a video here on how to do it: th-cam.com/video/aQqeI2kJZJ4/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for watching! Tom
What is the dimesnions of this scale?
15 cm x 13 cm x 2.5 cm
Do you change your process if you’re using lighter or darker roasts?
For lighter roasts I'd try employing the steam mode hack, and make sure the PF and glasses are pre-heated. Cheers!
What maximum capacity on that basket?
Hey Abrhm, recommended dosase is 14g, but I one can squeeze 16g if you have a dosing funnel.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner i have a double basket which dosage is 18gr...but always full..is something wrong with my grind?
@@SuperBekz Hmm, I could never fit 18g in a Dedica basket. Could you provide a link to your basket?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner in my country they have a sell a double basket fit in 18 gram... Yesterday i try grind finer and its fit... Im using a porta holder to get coffee in to basket
Hey Tom - I'm deperate!!!! I have the Delonghi Dedica Ec685 and I have always been happy with it but wanted to go for the improvement of having a bottomless portafilta. I have tried different coffees, different grinds, different tamping pressures, different everything but no matter what I do the coffee comes out all over the filter and never goes to a central stream and hardly any crema.
I see all these videos of that lovely shot with lots of silky crema from the centre of the filter but I just cannot replicate it. What am I doing wrong?? Please help!!!!
Hello there! Yes, your beans are probably too old - or in other words roasted too long ago.
These videos may help:
How to Get Crema: th-cam.com/video/00NSG9459a8/w-d-xo.html
Why Supermarket Coffee Beans are RUINING your Espresso! th-cam.com/video/5BgMKqu8fJI/w-d-xo.html
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I thought that when I used beans from the supermarket but I have been using beans which were roasted locally only two weeks ago and the result is exactly the same. I only buy good quality beans from two or three roasters in my area so I dont think its that. Could it be the basket in my portafilter?
@@davidjennings9253 What grinder are you using?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Hi Tom - Thanks for coming back to me. I use a Krups Expert burr grinder but I have also asked my coffee supplier to grind for me and it was no different.
I only seem to have a problem with the bottomless filter as I can make a good coffee with the standard portafilter but wanted to upgrade. Hasn't seemed to work though.
@@davidjennings9253 Well you need a decent home burr grinder. Pre-ground doesn't work well, because once ground, it loses freshness too quickly. The cheapest I can recommend is a handgrinder like the Kingrinder K4, or a Eureka Manuale.
Hi, I have a question.
Every one of my coffee is terribly sour. Every type of coffee is sour.
I tried:
- change the temperature
- pressure and non-pressure sieve
- different types of water
- I decalcified the coffee machine with the original preparation and also with vinegar.
I don't know where the mistake may be anymore.
Can you please help me I'm already desperate
I own a delonghi dedica ec685 m coffee machine and a delonghi grinder kg521 m.
Did you buy the machine new, and if so, how old is it now? I wonder if the thermoblock may not be heating properly.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I do have the same problem, machine is new. Coffee is so sour. Is there any chance for us to understand if the problem is thermoblock or not?
@@esemredemir Are you using a light or dark roast? Do you do empty shots before hand? What kind of baskets are you using?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I don't think it's about coffee because I used to use same coffee (Lavazza red one) with my old espresso machine ( delonghi vintage icona) and the taste was okay for me.
I really don't know where I do mistake. Temperature set to high level. water hardness is hard because I use tap water.
For single, I use 7gr coffee and tamper it.
I feel like extraction is a bit fast then what I see on the youtube videos, that's it.
thanks for taking the time to reply.
Fvck, that looked so easy, my machine drips out
Just need freshly roasted coffee. 👍
I think to get the crema i need bottomless portafiler😭
Well, I wouldn't say that, but it helps to be able to see your extraction.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I have the Same Dedica. What grind size do you set?
@@TheRock-jy6yl Well, fine enough to get a 2:1 ratio in 20-25 seconds. If you grind to coarse, it'll be more like 10-12 seconds, and under extracted. Cheers!
What are your favourite coffee beans ? ☕
Hey Jakob, my favorite cheaper beans are Lavazza, if they are fresh enough. My favorite roastery beans are Lazise by Dinzler: amzn.to/3jGP9L1
Ich würde mir sehr wünschen, dass er sein Equipment für die Videos sauber machen würde
Ja, das verstehe ich. Mittlerweile schaue ich schon, dass die Maschinen und Arbeitsplatz sauberer sind. Danke trotzdem fürs zuschauen.
Мажор, и санген у него...
??
The perfect shot doesn’t exists, individual tastes are different.
Italian espresso recipe is a marketing strategy, without any logical criteria to justify.
How many people goes crazy with this idealistic coffees where have been proven dozens of times that is better to variate the ingredients of no matter the food or beverage to adapt for individual’s satisfaction…
When my dedica was new when I removed portafilter immediately after making an espresso I herd hising sound of released pressure . I am not hearing that sound for months now and my puck is alway soft after making an espresso. We are talking about pressurised basket.
You need to wait 60 seconds, for the remaining pressure to dissipate.