I still don‘t get why Nissan didn‘t implement a proper charging-management with full temperature-monitoring this time. It‘s a poor protection method after all.
I thought you were going to ask Mad to lift up and move the Honda 750!! I think he could have done it!! ALSO: unrelated to this video.....Your Cold weather video of your drive to Lillehammer was the trigger that settled the debate in my mind "Is a TESLA a suitable car for driving in the upstate New York winters?" YA! I love it!
Biggest advantage the LEAF Plus has in 2020 is being discounted and becoming the value king. I got mine new after incentives and sales tax for $23k. That's for a SL Plus, top of the line. At that price point, in a cool climate, it cannot be beat for value.
The Leaf e+ is still hobbled by the fact it still has CHAdeMO. Imagine if the Leaf e+ has CCS instead - you'll definitely find the 100 kW charging speeds. The Leaf e+ does solve Rapidgate by being less intensive on the battery, which is good thing. Still Nissan NEEDS to ditch CHAdeMO outside of Japan or just adopt CCS in the Leaf.
Nissan's reasoning for Chademo is that it can send power also to the grid. I see no use for this for me in the coming years. CCS is something I prefer also.
What you are looking for is not a bigger cable. It's a 200A Chademo Plug from Sumitomo named SEDV-11. Its mainly blue with black handle. e+ will then charge at 102kW and more. Chademo seems to be No#1 in Europe when it comes to quantity of fast chargers and it's said they will install 200A plugs from now on: www.chademo.com/portfolios/sumitomo-electric-1-2/
V2G is possibile with ccs also and in the future the inverter of the car will do the dc-ac conversion in order to use type 2 instead of ccs or chademo and without using an external inverter only with a special wallbox.
@@whuzzzup Hi, on plugshare.com there are tons of chademo chargers, but the majority only do 50 kwh. I hope that the owning companies can upgrade them to 350 kwh. Nissan could work with them to upgrade the Leaf to 350 kwh.
Amperage you see while charging (131 amps) is power to battery. Turn off A/C and you will see a jump probably to near 140 amps based on A/C power usage.
I wunder if it is any difference in the battery voltage between the 40 kWh and the 60 kWh battery. It may give an explanation about the temperature difference between the battery types.
Just don't get it - our 2017 Leaf would charge at 54kW IF you could find a rare 150A charger with CHAdeMO. Why aren't these hot-shot Euro chargers delivering more to a supposedly better car?
Hey Bjorn, I have a small issue. I just bought the 62kWh Leaf, I've tried two OBD II with Leaf Pro App, and none of them have worked one was a V2.1 and the other a v1.5. Can you please give me some information, maybe the third OBD II device will work. Thank you very much.
Xpeng har Chademo till att börja med men kommer att gå över till CCS, har det sagts. De valde att ha Chademo initialt bara för att kunna "nå Europeiska marknaden snabbare".
Chademo is a deal breaker for me. I really dont get why Nissan choose to stick with Chademo here in Europe?! If you buy the new Leaf, you will be excluded from using the ionity network, and in the future i believe that you will find less and less chademo plugs, relative to CCS. Not good for resale value.... Nissan; get your head out of your ass....
John W Betamax lost the format wars despite being a better standard. When the vast majority of other car makers are adopting CCS, whether or not Chademo is in any sense “better” is really neither here nor there.
The new chargers being installed by Petro Canada at their gas stations claim 350 kW CCS2 and 100 kW chademo. My Niro EV charged up to 74 kW at 62% SOC down to 24 or so at 80%. Those CCS2 cables are short and hard to attach and detach... 2nd time I charged from 33% and I got only 54 kW max much slower charging, the Battery got up to 33 C at 4.00 volts per cell according to Soul EV spy app when charged to 80%,.. not like your Leaf..
As long as we want to inform correctly about electric vehicle autonomy, people should be informed about the speed at which test is performed, because traveling at 80-90 in a 120-130 would mean to fool people about the real autonomy.
She's the one, I suppose who filmed the dog's excitement, and captured it beautifully. You could not expect more as intention says, means and stays much more than any other transient stuff!
I sometimes skip to the end to get the results quick... this time i was like wtf is this dog thing? I thought i watching the wrong video. Hahahahaha dogs > humans.
So rapidgate isn’t really solved, even with the new 62kWh Leaf... Why Nissan couldn’t introduce a proper temperature management system for the Leaf is beyond me. Even the one they included for the NV-200e which basically uses the Leaf’s battery pack would have been an improvement.
It really shows how much worse other EVs are overall compared to Tesla which is so shameful they even consider putting out such shieeeeeeet and still after all these years other manufacturers completely refuse to be on par with Tesla.
They are different. Nissan leaf has much better interior and build quality. It's, probably, more reliable and has a larger repair network with less waiting time for repair. E-niro will have much of the benefits of the leaf plus better battery conditioning and more usable space to carry things around, more than a model 3. You pay for different things. Also, Tesla's Net income is US$−0.976 billion (2018), traditional manufacturers stay profitable.
@@MrPaukann My 2016 Leaf with 17000 miles spent 3 months at the Nissan Service Center this summer. Personally, I'm not impressed with Nissan service. On the other hand, I have found Tesla service to be excellent. When the Model Y comes out, I'll be trading in our Leaf for another Tesla.
@@darkenergy5686, maybe, but from what I've heard from Bjorn's videos about tesla service, it isn't impressive. Traditional manufacturers' service centers in general don't have huge waiting lists and cars are repaired quickly. Maybe that's just where I live.
@@MrPaukann Certainly Bjorn's experience has been different from mine. Then there is the fact that he is in Norway, whereas, I am in the Midwest of USA (Kentucky to be exact). Nonetheless, my Leaf suffered a failure such that it became undrivable and took several months to repair. The root cause was a defective battery cell in a rear stack module. But before the proper diagnosis, Nissan service replaced both the PDM and A/C Compressor. Then it took 2 or 3 reassemblies of the battery pack before they got it right. I've had one unscheduled service repair to my Model S which turned out to be a pinched drain hose exiting the A/C Evaporator box through the firewall. Don't get me wrong, I love both the Tesla Model S and Nissan Leaf, but my Tesla experience has been far better than my Nissan experience.
Mmm the lack of TMS and the Chademo make this car not the best one for long trips which misses completely the point of the big battery. In this view i found the 40Kw battery more interesting albeit as a second car for city driving/short trips. I don't give a fig about the support of V2G on Chademo , In europe all automakers bar Nissan have decided to adopts CCS even Tesla started to adopt it , while Chademo still has got the numeric advantage ,95% of the current charging point can't charge above 50Kw , the Fast charging stations with 175kw+ are becoming more and more common, i don't care about how good the chademo may be ,that will support 999kw and the v2g (btw CCS does support v2g) , if i want to do a long trip in europe i don't want a vehicle that adds hours on my trip just because i decided to stick with that only automaker that insist on that connector in europe. While V2G is the future as it can help to balance the energy peaks , i don't feel ok to have an energy provider to manage the car battery for me or increase the wear and tear on batteries, inverters , there is also a problem with regulation, countries have to deal with taxes ,tariffs applied , the energy market regulations etc. It may be the future not a priority for the consumer or automaker .
![62kWh isolation problem [FINALE]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/BkKc8l0CfeQ/mqdefault.jpg)
I still don‘t get why Nissan didn‘t implement a proper charging-management with full temperature-monitoring this time. It‘s a poor protection method after all.
Haha duke nukem reference. With that hair and those sunglasses LOL yeah haha.
Brilliant last section loved it :)
I thought you were going to ask Mad to lift up and move the Honda 750!! I think he could have done it!!
ALSO: unrelated to this video.....Your Cold weather video of your drive to Lillehammer was the trigger that settled the debate in my mind "Is a TESLA a suitable car for driving in the upstate New York winters?" YA! I love it!
Biggest advantage the LEAF Plus has in 2020 is being discounted and becoming the value king. I got mine new after incentives and sales tax for $23k. That's for a SL Plus, top of the line. At that price point, in a cool climate, it cannot be beat for value.
My charging speed for my leaf e+ was 53.5 kW on a 62.5 kW charger. Starting battery's temperature was 31.1°C. It starts trotting down at 67%.
The best part of the video is the final 2 minutes 😊
The Leaf e+ is still hobbled by the fact it still has CHAdeMO. Imagine if the Leaf e+ has CCS instead - you'll definitely find the 100 kW charging speeds.
The Leaf e+ does solve Rapidgate by being less intensive on the battery, which is good thing. Still Nissan NEEDS to ditch CHAdeMO outside of Japan or just adopt CCS in the Leaf.
Nissan's reasoning for Chademo is that it can send power also to the grid. I see no use for this for me in the coming years. CCS is something I prefer also.
Chademo is much more reliable than ccs with a lot of incompatibilities on the ccs and some cars having issues
Wholesome ending! 😌
What you are looking for is not a bigger cable. It's a 200A Chademo Plug from Sumitomo named SEDV-11. Its mainly blue with black handle. e+ will then charge at 102kW and more. Chademo seems to be No#1 in Europe when it comes to quantity of fast chargers and it's said they will install 200A plugs from now on: www.chademo.com/portfolios/sumitomo-electric-1-2/
Oh my... Dolly is so adorable 😆
Nissan uses Chademo because of V2G which is a key function of EV´s in the future but all the other company´s don´t care about V2G.
Nobody cares about the future. Europe is CCS and that's it.
@@whuzzzup Yeah, that´s what many people thinking. Who cares the future.
V2G is possibile with ccs also and in the future the inverter of the car will do the dc-ac conversion in order to use type 2 instead of ccs or chademo and without using an external inverter only with a special wallbox.
@@whuzzzup Hi, on plugshare.com there are tons of chademo chargers, but the majority only do 50 kwh. I hope that the owning companies can upgrade them to 350 kwh. Nissan could work with them to upgrade the Leaf to 350 kwh.
4 ads with 2 minutes each is enough for length of video. It isn’t always you can hit the skip button.
Amperage you see while charging (131 amps) is power to battery. Turn off A/C and you will see a jump probably to near 140 amps based on A/C power usage.
I wunder if it is any difference in the battery voltage between the 40 kWh and the 60 kWh battery. It may give an explanation about the temperature difference between the battery types.
The only advantage the Leaf has is the hatchback. If the Kona and E Niro had better availability, no one would buy the Leaf.
Good to see the maths for the 8% fast charging cost is 40% more!!
Dolly for the win!!!
Just don't get it - our 2017 Leaf would charge at 54kW IF you could find a rare 150A charger with CHAdeMO. Why aren't these hot-shot Euro chargers delivering more to a supposedly better car?
Ending was awesome ! that I must say as a veterinarian 😊
Hey Bjorn, I have a small issue. I just bought the 62kWh Leaf, I've tried two OBD II with Leaf Pro App, and none of them have worked one was a V2.1 and the other a v1.5. Can you please give me some information, maybe the third OBD II device will work. Thank you very much.
Angående Chademo utfasing, hvordan blir det med Xpeng som også har Chademo? Kan det bety flere chademo lynladere?
Xpeng har Chademo till att börja med men kommer att gå över till CCS, har det sagts. De valde att ha Chademo initialt bara för att kunna "nå Europeiska marknaden snabbare".
My conclusion is that this dog is better than Leaf
Yes, it tastes better.
Chademo is a deal breaker for me. I really dont get why Nissan choose to stick with Chademo here in Europe?! If you buy the new Leaf, you will be excluded from using the ionity network, and in the future i believe that you will find less and less chademo plugs, relative to CCS. Not good for resale value....
Nissan; get your head out of your ass....
John W Currently Chademo supports only up to 150kw, chademo 2.0, which will support 400kw is planned for 2020.
John W
Betamax lost the format wars despite being a better standard. When the vast majority of other car makers are adopting CCS, whether or not Chademo is in any sense “better” is really neither here nor there.
Oh my!, A hotrod? In the background? Do you know who Saul Lopez is? Or the "el cuervo"?
I don't know why, but I think I go and buy some Daim.
I feel the same way, it's like you got a subliminal message througout this video right?
paying 40% more for 5% more speed sounds like you bought a nickel for 45 cents congratulations on your purchase
Is there an equivalent OBD connector and app that will work on TM3?
5:50 where the link? Wasn't worth it?
The new chargers being installed by Petro Canada at their gas stations claim 350 kW CCS2 and 100 kW chademo. My Niro EV charged up to 74 kW at 62% SOC down to 24 or so at 80%. Those CCS2 cables are short and hard to attach and detach... 2nd time I charged
from 33% and I got only 54 kW max much slower charging, the Battery got up to 33 C at 4.00 volts per cell according to Soul EV spy app when charged to 80%,.. not like your Leaf..
Under what conditions can you charge at 100 kW? Kia salesperson told me 100kW on Sunday; I said 74 was.max in testing I have seen.
As long as we want to inform correctly about electric vehicle autonomy, people should be informed about the speed at which test is performed, because traveling at 80-90 in a 120-130 would mean to fool people about the real autonomy.
steve S I think you mean economy not autonomy?
Thank you for useful video. Like always.
Finally! DollyContent! =)
Animals at the end? ;)
Nessian need to switch to ccs charger
That dog clip 🤣
I do the exact same with mine 🙈
Dolly is more excited to see you than wifey? lol
Nathalie Lavoie
That was so cute!
She's the one, I suppose who filmed the dog's excitement, and captured it beautifully. You could not expect more as intention says, means and stays much more than any other transient stuff!
That video beginning is surreal...
Looks like Bjørn got an entire empty city staged 😎 no human, no animal...
That ending😍
No no it's thursday 16:00 in the afternoon ;)
I sometimes skip to the end to get the results quick... this time i was like wtf is this dog thing? I thought i watching the wrong video. Hahahahaha dogs > humans.
So rapidgate isn’t really solved, even with the new 62kWh Leaf...
Why Nissan couldn’t introduce a proper temperature management system for the Leaf is beyond me. Even the one they included for the NV-200e which basically uses the Leaf’s battery pack would have been an improvement.
"When you see me eat this, you also want to eat this."
With the upcoming EVs from PSA group, Opel, Peugeot and Citroën, i think Nissan is going to loose a lot. They all have active temperature manegement.
Nice video about the Leaf, but I'll never understand people kissing with dogs. Addwwwrrr
Dollyyyyyy!!! :D
MAB talks is the channel that Mads was plugging :-) link: th-cam.com/channels/i2_ysuRtaDl34d5Kb6bF6A.html
Try plugshare.com for higher power chargers. There aren't too many above 50 kwh.
*50 kW
@@bjornnyland thanks for the correction.
Shieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.
put two 2 year kids and wife in the test with child seats and babycarriers and luggage, Suitcases. continue!
I wish I could eat your diet Bjørn. Trouble is, if I did, my liver would explode.
Lovely dog Bjorn but..., what might it have licked before your face eh? Shiiiiit.
Northern Europe car only ...
It really shows how much worse other EVs are overall compared to Tesla which is so shameful they even consider putting out such shieeeeeeet and still after all these years other manufacturers completely refuse to be on par with Tesla.
They are different. Nissan leaf has much better interior and build quality. It's, probably, more reliable and has a larger repair network with less waiting time for repair. E-niro will have much of the benefits of the leaf plus better battery conditioning and more usable space to carry things around, more than a model 3. You pay for different things.
Also, Tesla's Net income is US$−0.976 billion (2018), traditional manufacturers stay profitable.
@@MrPaukann My 2016 Leaf with 17000 miles spent 3 months at the Nissan Service Center this summer. Personally, I'm not impressed with Nissan service. On the other hand, I have found Tesla service to be excellent. When the Model Y comes out, I'll be trading in our Leaf for another Tesla.
@@darkenergy5686, maybe, but from what I've heard from Bjorn's videos about tesla service, it isn't impressive. Traditional manufacturers' service centers in general don't have huge waiting lists and cars are repaired quickly. Maybe that's just where I live.
@@MrPaukann Certainly Bjorn's experience has been different from mine. Then there is the fact that he is in Norway, whereas, I am in the Midwest of USA (Kentucky to be exact). Nonetheless, my Leaf suffered a failure such that it became undrivable and took several months to repair. The root cause was a defective battery cell in a rear stack module. But before the proper diagnosis, Nissan service replaced both the PDM and A/C Compressor. Then it took 2 or 3 reassemblies of the battery pack before they got it right.
I've had one unscheduled service repair to my Model S which turned out to be a pinched drain hose exiting the A/C Evaporator box through the firewall.
Don't get me wrong, I love both the Tesla Model S and Nissan Leaf, but my Tesla experience has been far better than my Nissan experience.
@@darkenergy5686, maybe Bjorn's experience is an exception, not a rule. Anyway, other points are still valid.
Please plug Mad`s channel!
All the many things wrong with this Leaf. Same mistakes. Crazy price. Not ideal
Dolly!
Dogs are great.... The Leaf? meh..
Mmm the lack of TMS and the Chademo make this car not the best one for long trips which misses completely the point of the big battery. In this view i found the 40Kw battery more interesting albeit as a second car for city driving/short trips.
I don't give a fig about the support of V2G on Chademo , In europe all automakers bar Nissan have decided to adopts CCS even Tesla started to adopt it , while Chademo still has got the numeric advantage ,95% of the current charging point can't charge above 50Kw , the Fast charging stations with 175kw+ are becoming more and more common, i don't care about how good the chademo may be ,that will support 999kw and the v2g (btw CCS does support v2g) , if i want to do a long trip in europe i don't want a vehicle that adds hours on my trip just because i decided to stick with that only automaker that insist on that connector in europe.
While V2G is the future as it can help to balance the energy peaks , i don't feel ok to have an energy provider to manage the car battery for me or increase the wear and tear on batteries, inverters , there is also a problem with regulation, countries have to deal with taxes ,tariffs applied , the energy market regulations etc. It may be the future not a priority for the consumer or automaker .
The audio is as bad as Leafs charging speed....
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