One thing I really enjoy is the low damage numbers. One example of comparison I like to bring up is Neptunia vs Dragon Quest. Neptunia has you doing over 1000 damage at level 1. Dragon Quest has you doing 2 to 5 damage at level 1. I don't need the extra zeros at the end of my damage to make it impressive.
Yep. It unironically made each hit more threatening. I remember underestimating first hour of darkest dungeon and paid the price "They just did like 3 damages. What could go wrong?"
I kinda like high damage numbers if the situation is correct. Dealing XXX billion damage in Tatsanuku vs Capcom but only taking 5% of the opponents health feels good in just how pointless it is.
Whoever your favorite is, it's just nice that they made the girls look appealing. Too many game developers these days think there's something wrong with that.
I had no idea this was a thing until the other day, but this is such a great idea for a game. I love how it leans into the crazy run and gun vibe of metal slug and has you charging in like a maniac wiping out hordes of baddies. The support triggers really make it tactical too.
Your first sentence sums it up nicely. I tried the demo and had a good time and was expecting this game to be alright, but its quickly become one of my favorite games of the year
I was very interested in this game when I first heard about it years ago. I love the Metal Slug series, and I love strategy games, so this felt like the perfect combination for me. Was a little disheartened when they were silent for so long about what was going on with this game and perhaps a little disappointed when it was revealed this was going to be a rogue-lite rather than a traditional strategy game. I don't hate the genre entirely, but It's not one I want to dive into all that often. That said, I'm very excited after watching this and am going to check out the demo right away.
It sounds like you and I are in the same boat in terms of our views on the roguelite genre, so hopefully you wind up enjoying MST just as much as me! 😁
It being a rogue is what had me interested. We've had a billion tactics games. A good rogue is infinitely replayable to a ridiculous degree if they add mod support. You should try Enter the Gungeon, Wild Frost, Monster Train, Luck Be a Landlord, Back Pack Hero, rogues are peak gaming.
Don't you guys just love how much enthusiasm the out of field voice put in saying "MARCO !"at the start when you pick him ?😂 And also YOU'RE GREAT! is a close second
Excellent so far. A bit top heavy with all the skill, mod, and item descriptions during upgrade screens, but still quite addictive. It’s a nice change of pace to have a new, non-fantasy tactics square-grid game.
I was planning to play through MH Icebourne and Rise in the lead up to Wilds after I finish Metaphor and then this stealth drops, which is right up my alley. Time to fortify the man cave.
I'm glad to see that this game finally came out and is actually good! The first announcement trailer went for a long time with nothing further, we were worried this was going to be vaporware.
I endorse it BUT KEEP IN MIND the devs put out a statement that they're having some visual issues with the game on Deck. They said they're working on it but it's not great atm.
A sea of stars style rpg based on the metal slug universe would be cool. There is so many cool enemies. I really hope they add mods to this one, it would be really cool to see some king of fighters characters like leona and ralph from metal slug 7.
It's interesting people are worried about it's roguelike nature. Into the breach is the same and well regarded, an absolutely fantastic game. Maybe because each run itself also feels like a campaign? Anyway, I hope this game will scratch that same itch, on with the video 😊
The roguelike nature actually killed the game for me. It was advertised as "rogelite" on steam, which I usually associate (vague as these genres might be) with a very strong meta-progression system. I was hoping to be improving characters movement range, damage, HP. And during the tutorial I was imagining all sorts of interesting build options regarding the movement+dodge and sync attack systems. I was massively disappointed when I found out that none of this progression is possible and most of it is just unlocks for stuff you might come across in the randomized part of the game, and everything is lost when a run ends.
Was thinking of playing this after Romancing SaGa 2 revenge of the seven. The metal slug tactics looks cool, also like that it does have actual bosses too. I think that was something I felt Triangle Strategy was missing. Like big boss fights, in which that game only had 1 big boss fight at the very end.
That's the bare minimum to offer with a stand-alone game. Let's hope we get some none metal slug characters. I'd pay extra for a Rambo or John matrix 😊
I actually prefer Darkest Dungeon 2 (compared to Darkest Dungeon 1) but maybe it's more because it's there's no stress/quirk management in the base pressure. Hard to get the game flow going.
I can't help but think elevation would be an unnecessary addition to Into The Breach, when you take into account the pushing mechanism the game is designed around. So much of what makes it great is that it's not necessarily about you destroying them, it's about you preventing them from attacking the buildings.
Ive been having a lot of fun, 2 clears on lowest difficulty. But man i feel like im so fucking stupid and missing out on so many op combos or playstyles. Im treatijg it too much like a normal tactics game and it is not what the game is at all. Very well done in making it feel like a whole new experiencr
The metal slug games are all amazing but because of the art being so time intensive they are so so short. But twenty hours sounds good. Thats like 20 times longer than the average metal slug game.
As someone who loves tacticals it's a little weird. Be ready to read page after page of the smallest print you've ever seen (tutorial). I'm in the 2nd AI generated battle and enemies simply keep respawning which makes no sense. Last another tutorial note popped up (after tutorial) covering 1/3rd of screen and won't vanish. Kinda buggy and broken though I'll give it another chance tonight.
I just wish the sprites were updated more and not trying to emulate the arcade games. These characters look great in the art and animation parts, so having the main part of the game be isometric versions of the pixelated arcade sprites feels a bit of a let down.
I don't mind this game is a turn-based tactics RPG. However since it's also a roguelike, I can't help but ask: Is it diverse and deep enough to feel fresh in every run?
It certainly has been fresh for me. Between 9 characters, 4 weapons and skill sets for each, and the way difficulty has evolved thus far, 20 hours have just FLOWN by. Obviously gotta see how it lasts from there, but I mean, for the price tag I can't find a fault at this point.
My only issue with the game thus far are the fonts. It's weird they used so many different kinds but I play on PS5 and it is often hard to read the texts. I don't think they play tested this at all, or maybe they sit very close to the tv? I've never had this issue, not to this extend. Maybe I need glasses 😅
I have been skeptical about this one since I've played the demo, it felt like the same fake-tactics-actually-puzzle-game that Persona Tactica and Into the Breach had. But I trust your opinion enough to give it a try.
I was absolutely worried about the same thing. But there's so much flexibility with skills and weapons, it felt so much better to me. I hope you have the same reaction.
sorry to ask, but did you try it? i've also played the demo and felt like it was a puzzle game wearing a "tacticts" skin, the "run-and-gun" gameplay makes it that you either get demolished or you demolish the nemies and it feels very limited unlike slow, turtly tactics games. That's the main thing holding my money back.
This game have one funny bug hmm maybe is a bug hmm... Nadia can be Max Level with P.O.W and Unlimited Coin in First Area. i have try it just now very useful bug.
Well since it's a roguelite, the name of the game is replayability. I'm not bored of it after 22 hours and I still have a ton to unlock. Make of that what you will.
If it’s liked by people who don’t like roguelites then I’m suspicious, as I’m a bit of a roguelite purist. If a game doesn’t have permadeath then where’s the challenge?
I came in expecting a tactics game in the wild and wacky world of metal slug HOW FUN! FUCK YEAH! only to get a rouge like hidden in a tactics format.... Garbage.
@@TitaniumLegman I'm on Switch. Goodness, handheld mode is more or less dud for me. The text is pretty unreadable. Not going to buy it again for the console that's for sure.
@@Theotherlostprimarch oh, a rogue lite is a form of rogue like, the genre where you do multiple runs of a relatively short campaign, unlocking characters, skills, new enemies etc over time.
'Rogue lite' really means unfinished. Instead of regular campaign it's a hot mess of random AI battles. My first battle got swarmed by multiple enemies. When I restarted it was seven enemies. The cross fire (bonus damage) is weird. Doesn't add up when enemies surround you. Multiple times could only achieve cross fire by standing next to enemy and taking damage. Which sucks since this game has friendly fire. It's also buggy. A pop up message appeared in middle of screen and couldn't take down. Don't buy or wait for sale.
Did u know this was on Android google store for yrs before it was delisted this is a resurrected game from the mobile version so I played thos yrs ago even metal slug attack reloaded is the mobile version from yrs and yrs ago I used to play both on my Android 15yrs ago I stopped playing along time ago I started to hate the rpg style and stopped playing haven't been back since but now these games have come back from the dead I remember these games back then and the actually the same on consoles
JUST LOOK AT THIS GAME!!! That will lighthen your fear of F a C is M Honestly, going to bed now, but can't wait to get my hands on this, just look at it!!! Yes!!!!
I'll say that it's not a rogue-like, it's simply taking how the Metal Slug games played and applying it to this game. You die, you start over with basic loadout.
You do start over with the basics, but even if you clear a run, or if you die and lose progress, you still have meta progression and unlocks which are part of the rogulite genre.
Not exactly. Metal slug's a run and gun side scroller series. As someone who loves tacticals this games unfinished and confusing. Its encourages cross fire (surrounding enemies) which doesn't always work. Instead of a reg. campaign everything randomly generated nonsense You might get 50 enemies on first battle. It's buggy, multiple complaints of freezing up and reloading battles (happened to me).
@@jjwhy321y3 1) Why are you telling me something as obvious as what Metal Slug used to be? My comment implied it was a arcade series that played a way in which if you lose, you start over with armaments reset. Not sure what you're contradicting. The level setup won't be the same, nowhere did I say was every element of the game translated over, that wouldn't even make sense. You're complaining about issues with the game, not anything I said. Procedurally generated levels isn't exclusive to rogue-likes, unless I'm mistaken.
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Time:5:32 one of the houses have a banner that says عندي اسهال which is Arabic for “I have bad diarrhea” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It's from metal slug x, on the first level. 😂😂😂 nice Easter egg for people who know Arabic
It used to house Bin Laden 🤣😂
I have a bad case of diarrhea
@@XmasTableta lot better than house Bush
@@GaMeZaHoYa conoceur I see
One thing I really enjoy is the low damage numbers.
One example of comparison I like to bring up is Neptunia vs Dragon Quest.
Neptunia has you doing over 1000 damage at level 1.
Dragon Quest has you doing 2 to 5 damage at level 1.
I don't need the extra zeros at the end of my damage to make it impressive.
Can't agree more!
Absolutely, I'm a fan of low damage numbers myself.
Yep. It unironically made each hit more threatening. I remember underestimating first hour of darkest dungeon and paid the price
"They just did like 3 damages. What could go wrong?"
Fr, fr. I hate dmg number inflation. If I made a game, I'd make everybody have 10 hp.
I kinda like high damage numbers if the situation is correct. Dealing XXX billion damage in Tatsanuku vs Capcom but only taking 5% of the opponents health feels good in just how pointless it is.
This was really informative and helpful at parting me with my money. First video of yours I've seen, but not the last!
@@midnightbrave I'm sorry for your money, but I'm glad you enjoyed the video and I hope you also enjoy the game. 🤣
Great video! I was already hyped AF for it as a long time Metal Slug franchise fan, your further insight is informative.
Any game with Leona in it is worth checking out.
hey you mispelled fio
@@mangckyatmamon Tarma club here
Whoever your favorite is, it's just nice that they made the girls look appealing. Too many game developers these days think there's something wrong with that.
@@biffwellington6144 Fortunately Metal Slug never went away from the hotness
Agree. MS6 got me into her.
I had no idea this was a thing until the other day, but this is such a great idea for a game. I love how it leans into the crazy run and gun vibe of metal slug and has you charging in like a maniac wiping out hordes of baddies. The support triggers really make it tactical too.
Your first sentence sums it up nicely. I tried the demo and had a good time and was expecting this game to be alright, but its quickly become one of my favorite games of the year
Love your content bro. Love the enthusiasm. Keep up the great content!
Thanks chief, I'll keep doing my best!
Rip elections, Game looks awesome. Thank you for talking about it.
I was very interested in this game when I first heard about it years ago. I love the Metal Slug series, and I love strategy games, so this felt like the perfect combination for me. Was a little disheartened when they were silent for so long about what was going on with this game and perhaps a little disappointed when it was revealed this was going to be a rogue-lite rather than a traditional strategy game. I don't hate the genre entirely, but It's not one I want to dive into all that often. That said, I'm very excited after watching this and am going to check out the demo right away.
It sounds like you and I are in the same boat in terms of our views on the roguelite genre, so hopefully you wind up enjoying MST just as much as me! 😁
It being a rogue is what had me interested. We've had a billion tactics games. A good rogue is infinitely replayable to a ridiculous degree if they add mod support.
You should try Enter the Gungeon, Wild Frost, Monster Train, Luck Be a Landlord, Back Pack Hero, rogues are peak gaming.
Don't you guys just love how much enthusiasm the out of field voice put in saying
"MARCO !"at the start when you pick him ?😂
And also YOU'RE GREAT! is a close second
Excellent so far. A bit top heavy with all the skill, mod, and item descriptions during upgrade screens, but still quite addictive.
It’s a nice change of pace to have a new, non-fantasy tactics square-grid game.
I was planning to play through MH Icebourne and Rise in the lead up to Wilds after I finish Metaphor and then this stealth drops, which is right up my alley.
Time to fortify the man cave.
One of my most anticipated Tactics game this year. I like the old Metal Slug games but making it tactical brings it to another level!
That's great to hear! I'd been looking forward to this game but didn't really get my hopes up too much!
is one of the most iconic games but hope they get back to form
I'm glad to see that this game finally came out and is actually good! The first announcement trailer went for a long time with nothing further, we were worried this was going to be vaporware.
I can see why it took so long now, there's a lot to this one.
got it for Switch because I saw you play the preview
Think I’m gonna grab this game on my steam deck and then pre-order the physical release for my collection over on the switch
I endorse it BUT KEEP IN MIND the devs put out a statement that they're having some visual issues with the game on Deck. They said they're working on it but it's not great atm.
@ thanks for your honesty. Cheers
@TylerEdlin84 Any time chief! Enjoy.
It's better on pc, you can use Reshade with it and make it look like a neogeo arcade machine or a good crt.
Yeah, most likely I will be getting it and playing it. Congrats on your move to your new place.
I appreciate it, and I hope you enjoy MST. :D
@TitaniumLegman thanks. I sure I will enjoy MST.
A sea of stars style rpg based on the metal slug universe would be cool. There is so many cool enemies. I really hope they add mods to this one, it would be really cool to see some king of fighters characters like leona and ralph from metal slug 7.
I loved the metal slug auto battler and definitely picking this up :)
man having a 3 limit squad is pretty upsetting with having a load of favorite characters
Another great Review!!
Agree
Good to see ya SwitchUp! 👋
It's interesting people are worried about it's roguelike nature. Into the breach is the same and well regarded, an absolutely fantastic game. Maybe because each run itself also feels like a campaign?
Anyway, I hope this game will scratch that same itch, on with the video 😊
Well people are okay with glorified backgammon like the first Front Mission, no wonder they will eat up dull rng slop like Into The Breach
The roguelike nature actually killed the game for me. It was advertised as "rogelite" on steam, which I usually associate (vague as these genres might be) with a very strong meta-progression system. I was hoping to be improving characters movement range, damage, HP. And during the tutorial I was imagining all sorts of interesting build options regarding the movement+dodge and sync attack systems. I was massively disappointed when I found out that none of this progression is possible and most of it is just unlocks for stuff you might come across in the randomized part of the game, and everything is lost when a run ends.
I was pretty excited to try this game in gamepass. I almost got blind, the letters are SO small. I’ll wait for a sale on steam or something
Was thinking of playing this after Romancing SaGa 2 revenge of the seven. The metal slug tactics looks cool, also like that it does have actual bosses too. I think that was something I felt Triangle Strategy was missing. Like big boss fights, in which that game only had 1 big boss fight at the very end.
That's fair, more big bosses would have been very nice in TriStrat
Wow so basically all the 9 main protagonist from the past 7 games are here
That's the bare minimum to offer with a stand-alone game. Let's hope we get some none metal slug characters. I'd pay extra for a Rambo or John matrix 😊
Gaming > Politics.
Thank you.
I didn't realize it was a roguelite, I wasn't that interested until I learned that
Same, I still have a huge backlog of tactics games as it is, but I can always make room for a roguelite.
Looks great, but those bugs sound pretty major for a released game. I'm glad I waited on this.
I actually prefer Darkest Dungeon 2 (compared to Darkest Dungeon 1) but maybe it's more because it's there's no stress/quirk management in the base pressure. Hard to get the game flow going.
I can't help but think elevation would be an unnecessary addition to Into The Breach, when you take into account the pushing mechanism the game is designed around. So much of what makes it great is that it's not necessarily about you destroying them, it's about you preventing them from attacking the buildings.
Idk, I feel like some units that could manipulate terrain to create height could be cool in ITB, just as an idea.
@@TitaniumLegman There's a unit power where you can throw mountains, which is close to what you're taking about, you just cant stand on the mountains.
Chocolate and peanut butter baby cant wait
Ive been having a lot of fun, 2 clears on lowest difficulty. But man i feel like im so fucking stupid and missing out on so many op combos or playstyles. Im treatijg it too much like a normal tactics game and it is not what the game is at all.
Very well done in making it feel like a whole new experiencr
You'll get there, that's how I felt in my first couple runs through the demo too. It'll click!
Hey look!!!!! A new metal sluuu….. oh, never mind
The metal slug games are all amazing but because of the art being so time intensive they are so so short. But twenty hours sounds good. Thats like 20 times longer than the average metal slug game.
And I'm just scratching the surface with those 20 hours. I still have so much to unlock, test, and play with.
This game is great, but how do you save your progress on the Nintendo Switch version? Does it autosave?
@@Dracobyte it should autosave. I've only played on PC tho, so I can't give specific advice
@TitaniumLegman ok, thanks for answering anyways!
we need playable marspeople😂😂😂
Are you going to play it on the channel?
I absolutely plan to, either today or tomorrow if I can swing it. Work has been insane lol.
As someone who loves tacticals it's a little weird. Be ready to read page after page of the smallest print you've ever seen (tutorial). I'm in the 2nd AI generated battle and enemies simply keep respawning which makes no sense. Last another tutorial note popped up (after tutorial) covering 1/3rd of screen and won't vanish. Kinda buggy and broken though I'll give it another chance tonight.
I just wish the sprites were updated more and not trying to emulate the arcade games.
These characters look great in the art and animation parts, so having the main part of the game be isometric versions of the pixelated arcade sprites feels a bit of a let down.
it's not the first tactics thing for Metal Slug if you count the mobile games
I don't mind this game is a turn-based tactics RPG. However since it's also a roguelike, I can't help but ask: Is it diverse and deep enough to feel fresh in every run?
It certainly has been fresh for me. Between 9 characters, 4 weapons and skill sets for each, and the way difficulty has evolved thus far, 20 hours have just FLOWN by. Obviously gotta see how it lasts from there, but I mean, for the price tag I can't find a fault at this point.
Been wauting for way to long for this that it would be depressing if it wasbt at least good.
I think the publisher is pronounced "Dot EMU". Not sure why they dropped the capitol E in their logo, but it was always DotEmu for over a decade.
They should really put that E back, yeah. 🤣
If LRG is the only physical of this them in out.
My only issue with the game thus far are the fonts. It's weird they used so many different kinds but I play on PS5 and it is often hard to read the texts. I don't think they play tested this at all, or maybe they sit very close to the tv?
I've never had this issue, not to this extend. Maybe I need glasses 😅
I'm not a fan of rougelike, but put Metal Slug as a rougelike game is sensible lol, play it on gamepass, and still haven't completed the first run.
Old man time. Is the term SRPG not used anymore?
I definitely still use it, personally.
I have been skeptical about this one since I've played the demo, it felt like the same fake-tactics-actually-puzzle-game that Persona Tactica and Into the Breach had. But I trust your opinion enough to give it a try.
I was absolutely worried about the same thing. But there's so much flexibility with skills and weapons, it felt so much better to me. I hope you have the same reaction.
sorry to ask, but did you try it? i've also played the demo and felt like it was a puzzle game wearing a "tacticts" skin, the "run-and-gun" gameplay makes it that you either get demolished or you demolish the nemies and it feels very limited unlike slow, turtly tactics games. That's the main thing holding my money back.
This game have one funny bug hmm maybe is a bug hmm... Nadia can be Max Level with P.O.W and Unlimited Coin in First Area. i have try it just now very useful bug.
What's the Replayability?
Well since it's a roguelite, the name of the game is replayability. I'm not bored of it after 22 hours and I still have a ton to unlock. Make of that what you will.
@TitaniumLegman awesome!!!!! Thank you!
The bosses looked decent the rest looked like a snorefest.
is this game multiplayer?
Unfortunately no
I thought it's out already 😢
It is.
I only wish the performance was locked 60 in all platform, like c'mon, it's a 2d game
If it’s liked by people who don’t like roguelites then I’m suspicious, as I’m a bit of a roguelite purist. If a game doesn’t have permadeath then where’s the challenge?
Characters stay dead if you run out of revives, at least for the map.
Pixel art W
can't believe no co-op, versus, something...
I came in expecting a tactics game in the wild and wacky world of metal slug HOW FUN! FUCK YEAH! only to get a rouge like hidden in a tactics format.... Garbage.
"Rogue-like"?.....looks like a turn based strategy game to me. I thought "rogue" was games like Diablo? I don't know, maybe I'm wrong.
I though it was for the phone?
Negative
@TitaniumLegman im fine with that either way
The text.... is too freakin SMALL!!!
I'm hearing that a lot. I'm guessing you're on console?
@@TitaniumLegman I'm on Switch. Goodness, handheld mode is more or less dud for me. The text is pretty unreadable. Not going to buy it again for the console that's for sure.
Let’s say you’re someone who just stumbled upon this page and has no idea what rogue lite means…
@@Theotherlostprimarch oh, a rogue lite is a form of rogue like, the genre where you do multiple runs of a relatively short campaign, unlocking characters, skills, new enemies etc over time.
Roguelite is a hard pass for me. So sick of these games
I don't blame ya, that's usually how I feel nowadays too. But that's also why I'm pleasantly surprised by this one being so compelling for me.
'Rogue lite' really means unfinished. Instead of regular campaign it's a hot mess of random AI battles. My first battle got swarmed by multiple enemies. When I restarted it was seven enemies. The cross fire (bonus damage) is weird. Doesn't add up when enemies surround you. Multiple times could only achieve cross fire by standing next to enemy and taking damage. Which sucks since this game has friendly fire. It's also buggy. A pop up message appeared in middle of screen and couldn't take down. Don't buy or wait for sale.
Did u know this was on Android google store for yrs before it was delisted this is a resurrected game from the mobile version so I played thos yrs ago even metal slug attack reloaded is the mobile version from yrs and yrs ago I used to play both on my Android 15yrs ago I stopped playing along time ago I started to hate the rpg style and stopped playing haven't been back since but now these games have come back from the dead I remember these games back then and the actually the same on consoles
This is not whatever janky asset rip you played.
Rouge Tactics? Easiest skip ever...wake me up when Metal Slug 8 XXX releases
Welp, at least MS Tactics will become reality in a number of months due to world politics issues. :p
JUST LOOK AT THIS GAME!!!
That will lighthen your fear of F a C is M
Honestly, going to bed now, but can't wait to get my hands on this, just look at it!!! Yes!!!!
Disappointing that it’s a rouge like.
I'll say that it's not a rogue-like, it's simply taking how the Metal Slug games played and applying it to this game. You die, you start over with basic loadout.
You do start over with the basics, but even if you clear a run, or if you die and lose progress, you still have meta progression and unlocks which are part of the rogulite genre.
Not exactly. Metal slug's a run and gun side scroller series. As someone who loves tacticals this games unfinished and confusing. Its encourages cross fire (surrounding enemies) which doesn't always work. Instead of a reg. campaign everything randomly generated nonsense You might get 50 enemies on first battle. It's buggy, multiple complaints of freezing up and reloading battles (happened to me).
@@jjwhy321y3 1) Why are you telling me something as obvious as what Metal Slug used to be? My comment implied it was a arcade series that played a way in which if you lose, you start over with armaments reset. Not sure what you're contradicting. The level setup won't be the same, nowhere did I say was every element of the game translated over, that wouldn't even make sense.
You're complaining about issues with the game, not anything I said. Procedurally generated levels isn't exclusive to rogue-likes, unless I'm mistaken.
I thought roguelike meant random generated areas?
@thelegacyofgaming2928 I thought it referred to the combat and resources