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Better yet - The Animorphs book series. I mean seriously. An army of alien parasitic slugs who have taken over multiple other alien species, whose enemies are the Andalites, proud centaur-like creatures with the technological power to morph. The Yeerks invade Earth secretly, taking over human minds and are so convincing that the hosts' closest friends and family can't even tell the difference. The Andalites try to fight but are taken down in orbit. One of the last surviving Andalites, war-prince Elfangor, gives five human children the power to morph and fight against the Yeerks. Jake, the leader, whose brother Tom is a human-Controller (Yeerk host). Marco, a jokester whose mother supposedly died years ago, his dad is a wreck, the financial state of his household is in shambles, and suddenly he finds out his mother's death was staged and she is really Visser One of the Yeerk invasion. Rachel, a salty fashionista with divorced parents and a love for fighting, who later goes pretty much insane. Cassie, a girl who cares for wild animals and hates the violent fight against the Yeerks the most. And Tobias, whose parents are both gone and he lives with his neglectful and abusive aunt and uncle. He was the first casualty of the Animorphs. If you stay in a morph past two hours, you don't come out. Ever. The Animorphs barely manage to keep the Yeerks from advancing on against the human race, and they can't ask for help. They don't know who could be a human-Controller, and don't want to put their friends or family in danger either. The Yeerks think they're just Andalite bandits who survived, and the Animorphs would prefer to keep it that way. Because if the Yeerks find out that they're just un-trained preteens, the whole planet is at stake. TL;DR - You need to do a review of the shitty Animorphs TV show once the graphic novels come out in 2020, is what I'm basically saying.
9:10 "Parasite?!" "You're the online journalist" That joke caught me off guard and I had to pause the video for a second because I was laughing so hard
He's not that far off from the comics really. The symbiote always had a sense of humor and over time he became more of the comedic foil to Brock's serious, haunted personality. Of course, this movie cuts out all the haunted bits, so it doesn't work as well as it should be, given Eddie is just as goofy as The Symbiote.
the "i" and "us" thing on the ocean scene was done correctly from my standing. "you [humanity] didn't find us [symbiotes]; we [symbiotes] found you [humanity]. think of yourself [eddie] as my [venom] ride." nothing wrong with that
@@rhio2660 ~ No it shouldn't. When Venom uses "our" instead of "my", it's when he's bonded to a host. In other words, he's speaking as both Venom and Eddie at the same time. Doesn't work when he's speaking directly to Eddie.
@@JakkFrost1 see THAT makes sense. i didn't think of it that way. i didn't see them as bonded per se when they're talking to each other in that scene so i'm wrong on that
The problem is we don’t see ANYTHING of why the old lady and young girl: -never aroused suspicions with their any of their actions, especially a missing young white girl in America. -took so long to get to SanFran, or even had the money and ability to travel there. - somehow knew to go to the company’s SanFran HQ, and not any of their other buildings, legal east coast rocket launching facilities, or dedicated R&D facilities. [any smart company/scientist would keep an intelligent alien goo, that can easily infect people’s bodies, inside an *isolated* Level 4 Biohazard lab/building, at minimum] - how come neither of them had any of the semi-autonomy(ability to speak for 1), that every other successfully blended person did? Or, if they did, why did both go along with following the alien voice in their head without question? - why didn’t anyone set off an alarm when they saw a young girl killing security and scientists: at the gate, on the main level, and all of the subsequent levels until she somehow got to the secured symbiote testing level? These are some of the questions I had to ignore to enjoy this movie, but I did fully enjoy it overall.
@@GoatPopsicle you could chalk it up that Riot forcefully took over their bodies. Remember all three symbiotes are different. Venom was actually bonded with Eddie. Riot just gave no fucks. As for Carnage, well his name should be obvious
here's the thing though, it took years and years of writing and story arcs to develop venom into the tortured character he is today, do you really think it would've been feasable to do that in one movie? it's like trying to shove the entirety of avatar into one movie and oh wait, someone tried that and it suuuucked
that and they couldn't use Spider-Man in the origin because of the rights issue with the mcu using him at the time, so it's not like they could've made this movie comic book accurate even if they wanted to.
Agree. I still think this movie should have ended when Eddie got seperated at the MRI machine. Ann had no reason to keep it alive espically after seeing it eat people. Eddie was safe, it was a danger to everyone...
BlueGriffin20 even though we barely saw Venom attack at least one or two innocent people, oh, and next we got riot and the rest of the Symbiotes killing people, so that Kinda contradicts your point there.
not all ingredients are used for flavor. some of them are just to add texture or as a bonding agent for other ingredients, etc. etc. you petulant whelp.
@@brovid-19 salt does not add texture to baked goods and the general rule of thumb is 1/4 teaspoon of salt per 1 cup of flour meaning that a cake would need 24 CUPS of flour to offset the salt
Ok so when venom said “we found you” he meant the symbiotes found humans. Secondly, how dare you insult Rosemary Harris’s Aunt May. That woman is a national treasure.
Even if that is the case, a symbiote without a host still refers to itself in plural. If it were to talk out loud when separated from Eddie it would say "we need a new host"
Rosemary Harris wasn't just a treasure, she's truly a legend we need the most. She gave us morals about what a hero is all about. After all, we are all Spider-Man in our hearts because everyone can be a hero. Firefighters, officers, doctors, scientists, and any other heroes with shapes and sizes. Not just about that, even teachers, artists, and other civilians can be heroes. Thanks Aunt May.
The Spectacular Spider-Man TV show had the best interpretation of Venom outside of the comics. Eddie started as Peter’s friend, but slowly devolved as his life continued to go to crap. His addiction to the Symbiote was heartbreaking.
in hindisght , the spite makes sense, and the "addiction to the symbiote" he basically developed (most obvious when after getting the symbiote out he acts in a withdrawal state), BUT in hindsight.... shouldn't he getting the symbiote should have made him realize "huh. that' explains a lot"? (I know that scene is easily fixed with a minor dialogue of venom saying just 1 or 2 lines to easily convince Eddie, and we understand why that works. because he is already bonded). ALTHOUGH i will always give that venom this: h has the best reason why would he call himself venom. Although spectacular spider-man's venom loes points for me due to how his plan for exposing peter's identity was just entering the bugle, yelling "peter parker is spider-man" and apparently leaving the building (given next episode immediately starts with peter being interviewed by the bugle staff). I kow status quo, mind games and all..... but really? that was his start? not even attacking peter or the staff?
Ian R. Nava Huber Fair points. If Eddie had been calm, he might have realized all the times Peter or Spidey “ruined his life” were accidents or the result of a teenager making bad decisions in the heat of the moment. But he was already pissed, so hearing the “best friend” who kept showing up & the hero who kept sabotaging his work were one & the same may have led him to the incorrect conclusion that Peter was using his double life to make Eddie miserable. And while exposing Peter’s secret identity doesn’t sound all that intimidating, Eddie was probably banking on all the news channels digging up every possible scrap of dirt in Peter’s life to ruin his credibility. Beating Spider-Man to a messy pulp is easy & a short-lived victory. Trashing his name, ruining his reputation, putting him under the merciless scrutiny of the 24 hour news cycle & the Internet? That shit can last forever.
Wrong way, dude. Venom was content to share while his people demanded total assimilation. That’s why he shares with Eddie and Peter when he arrives on Earth.
@@LordMoonshadowGaGa realy? I guess sens he become a big villan I thought it was That way. Also dose he not slowly start take over Peters body and go out fighting crime when Peter is sleeping? Also when Flash has venom, dose he not have to take him of after some time so Venom dose not take over his body? IF you are right guess i heard what I wrote somewere and somehow change it in my mindre to get it to fit with the venom we know.
eventyraren The Klyntar story arc kind of retcons that to make Venom more sympathetic and explain why he swaps to the hero side more organically. The Klyntar used to be happy with a symbiotic relationship with various species and absorbing their cultures into their own until their leader bonds with a hero who harbored a dark side. It introduces megalomania to the Klyntar and the entire species starts assimilating rather than co-existing. Venom chooses he would rather retain the old ways than follow the brood and he’s sealed in a meteor and sent to drift in space forever.
Right that's what I was thinking, doesn't that nullify critics argument about the big loser scene. I'm not super well versed in venomlore but doesn't the symbiote become mad after Peter?
You know, it only after reading this did I realize that Venom was "poisoned" by Eddie Brock in the comics. Venom actually learned morals and kindness from Peter, which is why he fought crime while he was sleeping in the first place, only to get, Imma say this again so bear with me, "poisoned" by a combination of Eddie's resentment of Peter and Venom's anger at being abandoned. The creators of Venom were waiting... hold on, let me Google it... 32 years! 32 years just so people can get the joke with his name and I only just got it.
You can _literally_ pinpoint the moment Venom decides they're ride or die for Eddie. It's when Eddie says "we" after the security guard doesn't let them pass. Venom repeats "We..?" then immediately afterwards offers assistance "You want up?" then advice with Anne, then assures Eddie they can fix his heart, then rescues him & saves the planet. The moment Eddie speaks of them as a "we" a symbiosis/package deal, Venom was 100% on-board/sticking with Eddie forever.
10:51 "That's not what people remember him for" I must be one of those who aren't people, because this is actually what I love most about Eddie Brock; the fact that he's supposed to be a very evil villain, but actually chooses to do good when he's not overpowered by his literal dark side.
Christian Tompkins okay? And that, in which you said, is what made the movie, imo, a pretty good watch with it’s humor, shame it was rated PG-13 instead of rated-R though, we could have got to see more dark jokes, hell, maybe even some blood and gore, but hey, as long as it’s more mature than the rest of the MCU fan-base and it’s movies, then I’m sold.
@@ninjahombrepalito1721 Holy shit you're a spastic. What's worse, you like terrible movies. Don't know if this movie was intentionally or unintentionally funny, don't care. It was all cringe.
Wether you liked the movie or not I thought it was hilarious at least we can all be in agreement that Tom Hardy is a much better venom than topher “ooh my spider sense is tingling” grace
Topher was bad, but that still doesn't mean I'm ever going to watch Venom. Spider-Man 3 is campy and enjoyable, but could have been better had the Evil Sony Overlords not forced Venom into it.
Rj Peterson Like, imagine a body snatcher horror mixed with Eddie’s actual backstory taking itself seriously like Joker. But not pretentiously serious 😂
eventually everything will be MCU, including your grandpa and your dog. but at the moment a lot of things not in the MCU. xman, incredible 4, deadpool, blade will join the MCU and be ruined, but he wasn't MCU.
15:03 "Why would saying that suddenly make him like her?" She started with get in the car, but ended with 'get in the back.' That could be interpreted a bunch of different ways.....
@Adrijana Radosevic are you on crack? took a harmless joke and made it into a boring diatribe on sex. and boinkin... hehehe boinking. your name doesnt fail you Badrijana, for you truly are most definitely an Eggplant
And you parents stared at you, awkwardly, wondering what bizarre young-person lingo could possibly make sense out of the phrase "not enough Nicholas Cage".
While I did like this film I only have one thing that bugged me was the way symboite isn’t like a sickness, they’re drugs, the more you use one the more you lose yourself to it’s intoxicating power.
From what I recall about the character of Venom, he was never overtly evil. Most of his bad guy stuff was almost exclusively directed toward Peter, usually leaving innocent people alone.
Since the beginning, venom has a rule of not killing innocents and kids. That's why he takes on him to team up with spidey to beat carnage. But he was really darker than that hugh grant-ish venom
Iskalde Edemark The Eddie Brooke Venom considers himself a hero and Spider-Man the villain. But it’s delusional and he is murdering people for minor crimes. He is an evil mirror to Spider-Man, but out for a bloody crusade with zero real moral compass. I think the original Venom was a great villain with a well established agenda, clear flaws and a fitting form of evil. But yeah, it all hinges on him being delusional, which is not the case in this movie, this movie clearly intends Venom to be a hero, not a villain, hence cutting away all his dark sides.
@@palaniuki Well, you're almost right. Eddie did in fact kill innocents in his first real appearance, Amazing Spider-Man #300. He regretted it even back then, but said "it was necessary if it a part of him punishing the Spider-Man" (keep in mind that back then Eddie Brock was written as a raving lunatic). Eventually this was sorta swept under the rug, Venm gradually got a more defined moral code and shifted into anti-hero territory (though he was still often written as a delusional lunatic; remember the lobster scene from the movie? This was more or less normal behavior for early 90s Venom).
Logan Marshall Green and Tom Hardy look so alike that Hardy could be switched with Green in 'Inception' and vice versa in 'Prometheus' and I wouldn't bat an eye...
Actually, that line "...on my planet I'm sorta a loser" was one of the best in the film. It simultaneously was hilarious but also helped connect Eddie to Venom.
Captain Barbossa yes it was stupid, and yes venom deserves better, but I’d say the movie is kinda like Spider-Man 3 where you enjoy and good and the bad parts
Oh really? Well in this movie yes, but in the comic, no way. The comics go into depth of how a different host can effect Venom’s personality, but I do see why you said that. Good comment
I... honestly would say not. Sure, they could have shown a lot more in terms of violence, show actual blood splatter and gore. But if it still had the same story, plot, and characters, then it would have ended up the same, just with people citing it as ten-times edgier and filled with grotesque, uncensored violence. The story, characters, and writing needed a lot of work, it felt super rushed like they were just hopping from point A to point B with no stops. It was like the director was saying, "screw pacing and taking our time building up the dynamic between these two characters, we got to bullet-point this sh*t!" There's no levity, there's no time to breathe. There's no time given for these characters to grow and understand each other. As Critic explained, there's really is no reason for Venom to go from unstoppable hunger of death and destruction, to "I like you, let's save the world, pal." A-Rated R version would just show a lot more of the blood and carnage, but it wouldn't fix the more prominent issues with this movie, sadly.
Still love the series, i'd like these done: Diary of a Wimpy Kid Percy Jackson 2 A Series of Unfortunate Events Holmes and Watson Annie (2014) Edit: Had to do this, since he already did one of these for disneycember (thank you whoever reminded me) Edit 2: Thx for the likes, and added a new movie on there for the heck of it.
Oh yeah, I completely forgot that's what he was talking about. If only there was some kind of high school level grammar rule that says to clarify the subject of each new pronoun when switching between different nouns 😏 "Your astronauts didn't find us; we found them."
@@imanobody7911 WRONG! A Symbiote who has combined with someone NEVER says I or YOU (to the host) they are simple WE. WE ARE VENOM, because they are ONE now. It has nothing to do with species. They even speak as one, even if speaking about just Brock or just the symbiote Venom will still say "Do you remember what you did to US!?"
@@anouk356 I know that. But in that one particular scene in the movie that Eddie is speaking directly with Venom, Venom tells Eddie: "You did not find us. We found you" in that scene he means that the symbiotes found the astronauts
Uhh.. Technically the bit where Venom mentions he was basically bullied on his homeworld and he wasn't popular was technically correct. In the comics Venom was ostracized on his world. This was mentioned in the comics prior to the movie's release.
You know, I was going to say "I'm surprised you didn't mention all the similarities between this and Upgrade", and then at the last minute you sort of did. There were soooo many similar details in both movies, from the main premise, to the puppeteer style body movements, all the way up the the stars of both movies. I honestly had to go to IMDB when I saw the first trailer for Upgrade, to make sure that wasn't Tom Hardy playing that role as well.
I think about upgrade is it's a lot darker than the movie but also when Eddie is moving he just looks like he's possessed like he's unable to control his movements it's all jerky and such, while upgrade the opposite is trueit still gets across that he has no control over himself but rather than being almost by instinct or instead of being possessed it looks more like it's calculated, its precise,it's tight it looks like a machine is running his body
That Indie Reviewer It’s the reason we got it though that matters. Sony NEEDED lighthearted, good, Venomman to be the stand-in for SpiderMan, as they build their own cinematic universe. Venomman’s journalism will be their connecting link as they bring out characters like Morbius. All while they milk the MCU for legitimacy with Sony made Spiderman movies. It’s quite smart taking the slow MCU way, instead of the stupid Dark Universe and the rushed Snyder-verse ways.
3:51 NC: Isn’t that kinda like transitioning like this- *cues Batman intro* -and then never doing that again? Me: *Looks back at Ralph Breaks the Internet
@@mr_lrb6879 You tell me with a straight face, that a film that unironically used the phrase "like a turd in the wind" wanted to be taken seriously. Venom was all about being a fun, light hearted, edgy superhero action film.
@KJ Beast It was fan service done right. I’ve read maybe, like, two or three Marvel comics since I became a Marvel fan, and watching that movie felt like watching a living, breathing comic book. I loved how we finally got a Miles movie, because the teenage audience, including me, love him because we really relate to him. I also loved how Peter Parker and Spider-Gwen got the spotlight as well. I love both characters, and the arc Peter goes through in this film is PHENOMENAL. It made me want to see more of him. Yes, that movie was fan service. It gives us Spider-Man fans what we want in a Spider-Man movie.
I just love how much fun Tom Hardy had playing this character, like he probably saw that shitty script and just went crazy with the character just for fun
If I remember right, during Eddie's break-in, there are displays of the names of characters who were possessed by Symbiotes in the comics. For example, Scream's host was there.
First off Venom is my favorite comic book character When I saw this movie I really couldn't stand how they missed so many opportunities with Venom and Eddie's comic book history and lore, But after watching this more than once I began to enjoy it as a movie and not as a Venom movie, it's a decent and entertaining movie but alas it's not the Venom movie that would show everyone why this character has endured for so many years
@@Megaproductions302 really? spider-man 3's venom isn't really that bad. it gets the job done. especially when you remmeber they wanted to divide spider-man 3 into part 1 and 2 and part 2 but itgot cancelled and had to fit in mst of part 2 into the movie we got. that venom is serviceable. and at least his "non-host form" looks astonishingly great
No it isn't. Romcoms are almost always cancer. This is not different. The only good thing about this movie is to remind people to be grateful it isn't 2002 anymore.
Ninja Hombrepalito Sorry man didn’t see your comment. Oh I completely agree. Since first subscribing to this guy I knew he was a shitty movie critic (as in critical thinking, knowledge of source material, knowledge of filmmaking, etc). But I thought he was a decent skit writer. His Lorax one is probably my favorite. So I stay subscribed and just keep away from his ‘think piece’ stuff where he gives stone cold takes clearly based on personal tastes. I skipped through most of the skit stuff here I knew it would be insufferable ‘it’s wrong because it’s different’ crap. I unironically enjoyed Venom. But I also adore that it’s structurally identical to a romcom.
Joker: mostly ignores the unclear origin of the character for a new story that nails the core themes of the character Venom: mostly ignores the very clear and expanded upon origin of the character for a new storyline that misses the core themes of the character I'm just saying venom had it spelled out for them and they screwed it up whilst Joker had very little to work with and was successful.
No, this a lot like the more recent comics. Venom with Eddie became more of a Anti-hero with a strict code not to harm innocent bystandars, just Spider-man. It's just that with out Spidey.
I don't think they actually understood the Joker character that much, I mean they made him look like an antihero who cares about the outcasts and he became the Joker as a result, when in reality the Joker is just a fucked up entity with no resemblance of human emotions, it was a decent movie with an interesting tone tho. Yeah you could say that Joker was different in White Knight, but that's a whole different story and he had been cured of his insanity.
I think that is because they could not keep to the core themes of venom while making it another teen friendly anti-hero story. Venom is the story of a serial killer with Dissociative Identity Disorder and the urge to eat his victims, just add monster goo abilities and you got it.
Venom has for the longest time been a bit of a twisted cornball www.reddit.com/r/thevenomsite/comments/64zw4g/what_was_venoms_funniest_moment/?st=k33r7wpa&sh=26cbdb98
@@weeaboojones2451 I don't think the movies meant to be canon, it just an interesting take on his origin story, Joker himself says in killing joke "I like my past to be multiple choice ".
Okay, I feel like this had to be said so everyone can understand. I saw this movie with my friend a year ago, when it was first released. And they had told me that this movie was set in a universe WITHOUT Peter Parker a.k.a Spiderman! Eddie and venom's character and their development relied on Spiderman because it was him that brought them together! Peter Parker, who had taken away Eddie's job and caused him to resent the superhero. And Venom, who was Spiderman's first host but was rejected. When Eddie and Venom found each other, they used their hatred of Spiderman as a common ground for them to work together to bring the superhero down. But, there is no Peter Parker or Spiderman in this universe. This movie is set only on Eddie's point of view and in his world! So of course the story and the characters are going to change because they do not have the triggered Spidey to bring it to life. Not to mention, even though people are offended by the fact that it wasn't truly based off the comics, again, the comics are based off of Spiderman universe, and you can't be in said universe if you do not have Spiderman! Meaning that Eddie, Venom and even Eddie's ex-girlfriend would act differently because they had different lives and different outcomes. Like in the 90's Spider Man Animated series. The symbiotes, mostly Venom, was brought to earth by JJ. Jameson the third but the rocket crashed into the Golden Gate bridge. Spiderman went there to save the astronauts but got infected with Venom. However, because there was no spiderman or J.J Jameson, that meant that the story had to changed. And that was only the beginning. Don't even get me started on when the Rhino came and Eddie took pictures of Spiderman "Robbing" the space shuttle. Again, this was only from the animated cartoon and I do not know how much canon that was from the comic. But the point is, not everything is going to 100% from the source material. Especially when creating a world where the main plot device (Spiderman) is not present. I thought the movie was a bit silly, especially now looking at this review. But I still liked it. And yes, there might have been some material that they glossed over that they could have put in here without needing to reference Spidey. However, they did have to change a lot for the characters and story to fit into this new universe. Plus, they may add in more of Eddie's backstory if and when they end up making a sequel or at least find some way to tie in venom into future Marvel crossover movies. I just had to get that off my chest to inform you all.
@Captain Barbossa It seems you weren’t listening but let me say it so you understand it. THEY COULD NOT STICK TO THE SOURCE MATERIAL FOR LEGAL PURPOSES!!!!
Captain Barbossa Something we can agree on if you can’t fully use the source material you shouldn’t make it that is true but with what they had they made a solid 6/10 movie
@@pizzavictory113 I think that's what's best about it. The movie may have a corny vibe, but it still has that corny vibe magic the Sam Raimi Spiderman offered.
I am a massive comic book/Spider-Man fan, and I LOVED this movie! It wasn’t trying to be a super gritty and complex venom story like the ones we’ve gotten in recent years, it was paying homage to the kind of goofy, cornball version venom from the 80s to the early 90s who sings “Strangers in the Night” and the Mr. Roger’s Neighborhood theme song. I remember Venom for being the lethal protector who OCCASIONALLY fought Spider-Man, not the guy who fought Spider-Man and occasionally did good. Magneto is the X-Men’s archenemy. It is often argued if Venom is Spider-Man’s archenemy and he has various solo series depicting him as an anti-hero rather than a villain while Magneto is seen as just a villain so comparing him to venom doesn’t work. And once you think about it, Spider-Man and Venom have teamed up more than they’ve fought. I like you guys’s videos and all, but I don’t think you really understand classic Venom the way you think you do. (Also Venom wasn’t super dark in the original source material. Like I said a minute ago, Venom was a freaking cornball.) (Also (again) why is She-Venom appearing before you even though she killed herself?)
This goofy Venom is pretty fun to watch, especially the “like a trud...in the wind” part. It’s basically Venom saying: “I like good people, but I also like to eat people. So if you don’t to be eaten, you will NOT prey on the innocent, and you will stay good with your hands in pockets. *awkward silence * On second thought, you can stay bad, so I can eat you.”
Yeah, like hasn't Venom at least Eddie Brock's Venom really been a anti hero for a longer time than he was just a villian? So I got to disagree with Critic saying people remeber Venom for mostly being a spiderman villian who sometime tes up with him.
I never read the comics or the old shows but I agree with you still I really liked the film (and the original spider-man trilogy). He mentioned how Eddie Brock became a VILLAIN in the comics but the movie has him as an antihero I also actually liked when he said something out of place like "aww that's nice" because it was really funny hearing it come out of his voice. Also the he asks why they were friends all of the sudden when all they did was go at each others throats when friends do that all the time.
You know after watching deadpool and venom all these movies reminded me of the non-marvel supported film Kick-Ass....does anyone still remember that movie???
Here's my Pros and Cons for Venom: Pros: 1) Tom Hardy's performance is both engaging and hilarious 2) The CGI used on the symbiotes is actually really good 3) Venom's design and personality made him seem cool and creepy at the same time 4) It didn't get too serious that it couldn't be fun and it didn't get too silly that I couldn't take the plot seriously 5) Unlike Spiderman 3, the movie doesn't wait until the last ten minutes to give us Venom Cons: 1) The villain started off interesting but then turned out to be another generic mad scientist type of villain 2) It takes a little too long before we see Venom on screen 3) Despite being an hour and forty five minutes long, the movie felt kinda short 4) There should've been a few more scenes of Venom fighting someone, maybe have a moment where he and Eddy try to take out a gang of thugs or something So overall, I did like this movie, but more as it's own thing rather than a faithful adaptation; I've never read any Spiderman comics and I've only ever watched the Sam Raimi Spiderman movies, so I can't call myself a fan of Spiderman. Despite its flaws, this was a fun and enjoyable movie, and I'm looking forward to its sequel. Overall, I give it an 8/10.
@@mychaeljones7279 -6.5/+10 for me because they butchered one of my favorite characters of all time. Especially when you take the fact that they were swearing up and down that this was gonna be a horror movie and it was gonna be rated r but JUST BEFORE the movie was released, the director said it's gonna be PG-13. That REALLY pissed me off
@@Devils_Lair_Comics My biggest issue with Eddie Brock was that he gave up for six months. The real Eddie Brock would have kept digging on the Life Foundation. He wouldn't bum around San Francisco waiting for the universe to toss him a bone. He would be on Drake like a really determined tick. You could still have his projection and irrational hatred, but on Drake instead of Parker. Granted, one could argue him being right in the end would be just as disrespectful to the character.
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Upgrade accomplished more than what venom did with 1/30th of the budget
Better yet - The Animorphs book series.
I mean seriously. An army of alien parasitic slugs who have taken over multiple other alien species, whose enemies are the Andalites, proud centaur-like creatures with the technological power to morph. The Yeerks invade Earth secretly, taking over human minds and are so convincing that the hosts' closest friends and family can't even tell the difference. The Andalites try to fight but are taken down in orbit. One of the last surviving Andalites, war-prince Elfangor, gives five human children the power to morph and fight against the Yeerks.
Jake, the leader, whose brother Tom is a human-Controller (Yeerk host). Marco, a jokester whose mother supposedly died years ago, his dad is a wreck, the financial state of his household is in shambles, and suddenly he finds out his mother's death was staged and she is really Visser One of the Yeerk invasion. Rachel, a salty fashionista with divorced parents and a love for fighting, who later goes pretty much insane. Cassie, a girl who cares for wild animals and hates the violent fight against the Yeerks the most. And Tobias, whose parents are both gone and he lives with his neglectful and abusive aunt and uncle. He was the first casualty of the Animorphs. If you stay in a morph past two hours, you don't come out. Ever.
The Animorphs barely manage to keep the Yeerks from advancing on against the human race, and they can't ask for help. They don't know who could be a human-Controller, and don't want to put their friends or family in danger either. The Yeerks think they're just Andalite bandits who survived, and the Animorphs would prefer to keep it that way. Because if the Yeerks find out that they're just un-trained preteens, the whole planet is at stake.
TL;DR - You need to do a review of the shitty Animorphs TV show once the graphic novels come out in 2020, is what I'm basically saying.
Eddie had more chemistry with Venom than he did with what's-her-face.
@Charmiskit How in the world could you forget it her?!?! Her name was, um, it... was... uhhhhh, you know... her!
@@Ghost26968 Yea I remember her name it was
Crisdean Mackinnon Including a whirlwind romance
A waste of Michelle William's talents as an actress.
And that's putting it nicely.
@@Ghost26968 you know! Her! She's the love interest! Who... Uhhhhh... Has that job she does!
"Am I ever going to get control of my body back?"
"No. I've seen what you do at night."
"That's fair."
XD
Pfffft.
Oh crap 😂😂
XD
Just at night? Live a little...
9:10
"Parasite?!"
"You're the online journalist"
That joke caught me off guard and I had to pause the video for a second because I was laughing so hard
I nearly choked on my drink as soon as he said that.
Venom: Thats our words.
Can you explain the joke to me? Thanks.
I don't know but for some reason I thought this was about parasite the maximum I need to stop skipping sleep
Totally agree!
Making Venom essentially a drunk roommate is one of the strangest decisions I think I've ever experienced
He's not that far off from the comics really. The symbiote always had a sense of humor and over time he became more of the comedic foil to Brock's serious, haunted personality. Of course, this movie cuts out all the haunted bits, so it doesn't work as well as it should be, given Eddie is just as goofy as The Symbiote.
the "i" and "us" thing on the ocean scene was done correctly from my standing.
"you [humanity] didn't find us [symbiotes]; we [symbiotes] found you [humanity].
think of yourself [eddie] as my [venom] ride."
nothing wrong with that
It should be "our" not "my"
ApocalypticJoker agreed
@@rhio2660 ~ No it shouldn't. When Venom uses "our" instead of "my", it's when he's bonded to a host. In other words, he's speaking as both Venom and Eddie at the same time. Doesn't work when he's speaking directly to Eddie.
If you read the comics you would see the issue. But if you didn't I understand your point.
@@JakkFrost1 see THAT makes sense. i didn't think of it that way. i didn't see them as bonded per se when they're talking to each other in that scene so i'm wrong on that
When venom said "you didn't find us we found you" he wasnt talking about Eddie and him ,but symbiotes and humanity. The symbiotes found humanity.
@@yoda908 pretty sure it was mentioned that riot was going back into space to get others for a full invasion. Obviously this batch was a scout party.
@@Drownedinblood yessir, directly says it to carleton
good Lord! 18:36
Did you come to this conclusion all on your own?? Or did you need to have a college degree from Harvard to figure this out?????
That is looking too far into something that is literally not metaphorically
To be honest, “Venom” is kind of a guilty pleasure for me. Despite its flaws, I actually enjoyed it.
My to!
Same
Ken Guy II I agree, is this movie perfect? No, but it was still enjoyable and entertaining to watch Venom kicking ass and taking names.
@@jswatch9270 I can't say that I have, in fact I've never heard of that comic before now
I respect that. It wasn’t a masterpiece but it was entertaining. It’s not rewatchable for me to be honest
Everyone has complained about the little girl getting in the lab like its a plothole. Did you all forget she had a SYMBIOTE at the time?
The problem is we don’t see ANYTHING of why the old lady and young girl:
-never aroused suspicions with their any of their actions, especially a missing young white girl in America.
-took so long to get to SanFran, or even had the money and ability to travel there.
- somehow knew to go to the company’s SanFran HQ, and not any of their other buildings, legal east coast rocket launching facilities, or dedicated R&D facilities.
[any smart company/scientist would keep an intelligent alien goo, that can easily infect people’s bodies, inside an *isolated* Level 4 Biohazard lab/building, at minimum]
- how come neither of them had any of the semi-autonomy(ability to speak for 1), that every other successfully blended person did? Or, if they did, why did both go along with following the alien voice in their head without question?
- why didn’t anyone set off an alarm when they saw a young girl killing security and scientists: at the gate, on the main level, and all of the subsequent levels until she somehow got to the secured symbiote testing level?
These are some of the questions I had to ignore to enjoy this movie, but I did fully enjoy it overall.
@@GoatPopsicle you could chalk it up that Riot forcefully took over their bodies. Remember all three symbiotes are different. Venom was actually bonded with Eddie. Riot just gave no fucks. As for Carnage, well his name should be obvious
@@rinuchiha6961what does Carnage mean
@Marvelfanatic3658 “the killing of a group of people” is what it means
here's the thing though, it took years and years of writing and story arcs to develop venom into the tortured character he is today, do you really think it would've been feasable to do that in one movie? it's like trying to shove the entirety of avatar into one movie and oh wait, someone tried that and it suuuucked
I would say it’s like trying to make a Justice League movie when only half the Justice League have been established
I think it could've been possible if different people were involved. This movie was just bad writing.
that and they couldn't use Spider-Man in the origin because of the rights issue with the mcu using him at the time, so it's not like they could've made this movie comic book accurate even if they wanted to.
It's possible
That actually can be done in one movie. As long as you hire smart people
That bit with Will Smith's Genie was glorious.
That was hilarious
Mr. Tom Hardy, sir
Have a check worth 2 or 3
@@benjackson7872cringe
It’s just strange how Eddie and Ann are so seemingly okay with being forced by the symbiote to become a cannibal
Yea that always seemed kind of weird to me, its like they are still them under Venom and yet perfectly fine with eating people.
Agree. I still think this movie should have ended when Eddie got seperated at the MRI machine. Ann had no reason to keep it alive espically after seeing it eat people. Eddie was safe, it was a danger to everyone...
BlueGriffin20 even though we barely saw Venom attack at least one or two innocent people, oh, and next we got riot and the rest of the Symbiotes killing people, so that Kinda contradicts your point there.
Sjono what else would you do? Tell them NOT to eat people? That’s what they feed on and have to do if you don’t read at least one or two Venom comics.
Ninja Hombrepalito that too, it’s called VENOM for a reason kids, look it up.
Can we talk about how Aunt May's red velvet cake recipe called for 2 TABLESPOONS of salt.
Skele Puns oh that hurts.
Who ? Who is it ? I seriosly !
Hey man dont argue with Aunt May
not all ingredients are used for flavor. some of them are just to add texture or as a bonding agent for other ingredients, etc. etc. you petulant whelp.
@@brovid-19 salt does not add texture to baked goods and the general rule of thumb is 1/4 teaspoon of salt per 1 cup of flour meaning that a cake would need 24 CUPS of flour to offset the salt
“Ain’t got a friend like him?”
"Where is he?!?! Where's venom?!?!"
Ababua
So that’s why Adam Sandler is weird, he has Venom in him
@@KairuHakubi Not sure about bland, but subdued is something I can get behind
That might be 1 of the worst or greatest action movie I will get to c lol
What if Venom is Adam Sandler? Sandler is the parasite..
@@grahamr6545 aren't all Jews. (Disclaimer for snowflakes.)
Not all Jews Joanna Angel
My celeb crush
Adam Sandler: Because I CAN`T stand you being here!
Critics - It's lacking depth and psychological trauma!
Audience - It's ugly. And I love it.
Agreed.
I too thought it had just the right amount of everything together. LOL
Who loved it? If you did its a problem.
@@joed2818 I liked it
@@derektorres9275 you poor thing.
@@joed2818 Rather see Venom than Captain Marvel, Eternals, and Wandavision
I think you may have forgotten the fact that venom was always a goof even in comics. sure tragic but he was a goof.
But he was still predominantly a serious character
I mean Batman has had goofy moments quite often but people still see him as a serious character
@@Devils_Lair_Comics *laughs with shark repellent*
@@crane8015 Laughs in an Austrian accent
The only one that was pure evil was Mac gargen venom
True
Critic: Am I ever gonna get my body back?
Voice: No, I see what you do at night.
I'd laugh if it was watching AVGN episodes that triggered the voice.
Critic: That’s fair.
The "I like her, get in" bit sounded so corny and out there I actually thought Critic edited it in as a joke at first
DON'T ACT LIKE WE'RE NOT CONNECTED!
There were at least 5 times I thought that...
I like to see him review the 2019 pet Semetary movie
Sadly he said he only do 1 Stephen King movie once a year due to Stephen King drinking game don't ask me why it existed
I forgot that existed
@@nathanmitchell3079 oh well. I think he's gonna review upgrade next
Terrible movie
I want him to review Gemini man later next or this year
2:57: "NOOOOO! MY SON THE ASTRONAUT! HE WAS SO YOUNG! I BLAME SPIDERMAN FOR THE LOSS OF MY SON THE ASTRONAUT!!!!"
Did I mention that he's my son, The Astronaut
Hahahh. As god demn right.
@@studior2962 your son, the astronaut?
Spiderman"yeah whatever man"
Ok so when venom said “we found you” he meant the symbiotes found humans. Secondly, how dare you insult Rosemary Harris’s Aunt May. That woman is a national treasure.
Even if that is the case, a symbiote without a host still refers to itself in plural. If it were to talk out loud when separated from Eddie it would say "we need a new host"
Rosemary Harris is English.
Rosemary Harris wasn't just a treasure, she's truly a legend we need the most. She gave us morals about what a hero is all about. After all, we are all Spider-Man in our hearts because everyone can be a hero. Firefighters, officers, doctors, scientists, and any other heroes with shapes and sizes. Not just about that, even teachers, artists, and other civilians can be heroes.
Thanks Aunt May.
Don't think he was making fun of her I think he was just making fun of the long speeches she did
@@lordderp6914 That kind of sounds like "I'm not making fun of you, I'm making fun of your ugly face"
The Spectacular Spider-Man TV show had the best interpretation of Venom outside of the comics. Eddie started as Peter’s friend, but slowly devolved as his life continued to go to crap. His addiction to the Symbiote was heartbreaking.
God i remember that scene, I felt bad for Eddie in that scene, i wish season 3 (which never came out) could redeem Eddie in some way
in hindisght , the spite makes sense, and the "addiction to the symbiote" he basically developed (most obvious when after getting the symbiote out he acts in a withdrawal state), BUT in hindsight.... shouldn't he getting the symbiote should have made him realize "huh. that' explains a lot"? (I know that scene is easily fixed with a minor dialogue of venom saying just 1 or 2 lines to easily convince Eddie, and we understand why that works. because he is already bonded).
ALTHOUGH i will always give that venom this: h has the best reason why would he call himself venom.
Although spectacular spider-man's venom loes points for me due to how his plan for exposing peter's identity was just entering the bugle, yelling "peter parker is spider-man" and apparently leaving the building (given next episode immediately starts with peter being interviewed by the bugle staff).
I kow status quo, mind games and all..... but really? that was his start? not even attacking peter or the staff?
Ian R. Nava Huber Fair points. If Eddie had been calm, he might have realized all the times Peter or Spidey “ruined his life” were accidents or the result of a teenager making bad decisions in the heat of the moment. But he was already pissed, so hearing the “best friend” who kept showing up & the hero who kept sabotaging his work were one & the same may have led him to the incorrect conclusion that Peter was using his double life to make Eddie miserable. And while exposing Peter’s secret identity doesn’t sound all that intimidating, Eddie was probably banking on all the news channels digging up every possible scrap of dirt in Peter’s life to ruin his credibility. Beating Spider-Man to a messy pulp is easy & a short-lived victory. Trashing his name, ruining his reputation, putting him under the merciless scrutiny of the 24 hour news cycle & the Internet? That shit can last forever.
"The test says you're an idiot, and it's terminal."
*-Nostalgia Critic, 2019*
ironic cause Eddie had cancer in the comics
That's not really a funny thing to quote
Ironic, ain't it 😂
@@osmankovacevic6135 yeah using a emoji is funny
Hes talking about himself. ;)
In the comic Venom is banished from his homeplanet becuse he wanted to take over his hoste body insted of shering it, with is illegal there.
Wrong way, dude. Venom was content to share while his people demanded total assimilation. That’s why he shares with Eddie and Peter when he arrives on Earth.
@@LordMoonshadowGaGa realy? I guess sens he become a big villan I thought it was That way. Also dose he not slowly start take over Peters body and go out fighting crime when Peter is sleeping? Also when Flash has venom, dose he not have to take him of after some time so Venom dose not take over his body?
IF you are right guess i heard what I wrote somewere and somehow change it in my mindre to get it to fit with the venom we know.
eventyraren The Klyntar story arc kind of retcons that to make Venom more sympathetic and explain why he swaps to the hero side more organically. The Klyntar used to be happy with a symbiotic relationship with various species and absorbing their cultures into their own until their leader bonds with a hero who harbored a dark side. It introduces megalomania to the Klyntar and the entire species starts assimilating rather than co-existing. Venom chooses he would rather retain the old ways than follow the brood and he’s sealed in a meteor and sent to drift in space forever.
Right that's what I was thinking, doesn't that nullify critics argument about the big loser scene. I'm not super well versed in venomlore but doesn't the symbiote become mad after Peter?
You know, it only after reading this did I realize that Venom was "poisoned" by Eddie Brock in the comics. Venom actually learned morals and kindness from Peter, which is why he fought crime while he was sleeping in the first place, only to get, Imma say this again so bear with me, "poisoned" by a combination of Eddie's resentment of Peter and Venom's anger at being abandoned.
The creators of Venom were waiting... hold on, let me Google it... 32 years! 32 years just so people can get the joke with his name and I only just got it.
Eh, I kinda get the sudden bond with Eddie...
Basically, Venom has a cat.
You can _literally_ pinpoint the moment Venom decides they're ride or die for Eddie. It's when Eddie says "we" after the security guard doesn't let them pass.
Venom repeats "We..?" then immediately afterwards offers assistance "You want up?" then advice with Anne, then assures Eddie they can fix his heart, then rescues him & saves the planet.
The moment Eddie speaks of them as a "we" a symbiosis/package deal, Venom was 100% on-board/sticking with Eddie forever.
I mean... you're not wrong
UPGRADE was dope and the ending is just wow
the ending is brazil
Ooooh, I didn't expect you to review this for Nostalgiaween.
Well, the movie was released on October 5 ( the day after my birthday).
I wish that they would have waited; comic book movies can be reviewed any other time.
Darkspeed the Multiverse Speedster i did
@fitzmarker still doesnt explain why for nostalgiaween instead of a regular review
I agree, Speedstreak. Because it like the opposite when he reviewed Spawn not on Nostalgiaween when it looks like it could have been. 🤷♀️
10:51 "That's not what people remember him for"
I must be one of those who aren't people, because this is actually what I love most about Eddie Brock; the fact that he's supposed to be a very evil villain, but actually chooses to do good when he's not overpowered by his literal dark side.
Hellboy 2019
I so hope he reviews that next!
@@somerandolad or hannibal rising
No that shit is too gorey for the internet
@@yeahidraw7068 it's a horribe movie
Oh god, everytime I forget that was a thing I'm instantly reminded of it.
“We Are Critic”
Bad movies: “AAAAGHH!!”
@@kryoruleroftheninthcircleo4151 Now if only this was a bad movie..
*"WE ARE UNITED"*
I AM CHASE!
And WE. ARE. VENOM.
@@chasehedges6775 I AM GROOT!
“You’re the online journalist!!”
I was dying at that one 😂😂
I can't tell when it's Venom talking in the movie or Malcolm talking to add funny lines because the movie lines are already that stupid.
i love this movie. it's hard to tell when it's being accidentally or intentionally funny.
Yup
Christian Tompkins okay? And that, in which you said, is what made the movie, imo, a pretty good watch with it’s humor, shame it was rated PG-13 instead of rated-R though, we could have got to see more dark jokes, hell, maybe even some blood and gore, but hey, as long as it’s more mature than the rest of the MCU fan-base and it’s movies, then I’m sold.
@@ninjahombrepalito1721 Holy shit you're a spastic. What's worse, you like terrible movies.
Don't know if this movie was intentionally or unintentionally funny, don't care. It was all cringe.
@@ionbing2884 nope. T'was cool
@giftofgab247 nope , didn't
Wether you liked the movie or not I thought it was hilarious at least we can all be in agreement that Tom Hardy is a much better venom than topher “ooh my spider sense is tingling” grace
SJ RANKS if you know what I’m talking about
Yeah, I agree. The movie was campy but in a good way. And Tom Hardy is a better Venom than Topher, imo.
Topher was bad, but that still doesn't mean I'm ever going to watch Venom. Spider-Man 3 is campy and enjoyable, but could have been better had the Evil Sony Overlords not forced Venom into it.
SJ RANKS hell yes
He basically isn't even Venom though.
Actually the latest run of Venom where they are acting as an antihero is amazing.
emphasis on "latest"... Venom was conceived as a villain, and is at his best as a villain. This movie shat all over that.
My favorite run of venom was agent venom with flash
@@SA80TAGE I dunno, most fans I've seen love him as an antihero.
@@SA80TAGE I think he has mostly been an anti-hero/villain. Isn't his moniker the "Violent Savior" or something like that?
@@brettwallace7687 lethal protector was an old run of venom, but yeah he's been called that.
Honestly, it was worth it just for you praising Upgrade. That was an INCREDIBLE movie, and it went so annoyingly under the radar.
I know upgrade remake what I tell my brothers
Better ending f' d up
It was okay.
Upgrade was cool but HATED the ending
Imagine a Venom movie in the style of Joker. Like, a body snatcher horror with eddie’s actual backstory that took itself seriously enough
One word: YETH
Can't I imagine a world where I can just not see someone jizzing all over themselves about joker every time I turn around?
It'd be trash.
That would be a horror movie for sure
Rj Peterson Like, imagine a body snatcher horror mixed with Eddie’s actual backstory taking itself seriously like Joker. But not pretentiously serious 😂
"This is my revie-"
"-our* review"
Raskad comminist
*soviet union anthem begins to play*
This is our comment
**communism intensifies**
@@KonkeyDong616 United forever in friendship and labour,
I like how Critic never acknowledge that this movie is not in the MCU.
Why would he?
eventually everything will be MCU, including your grandpa and your dog. but at the moment a lot of things not in the MCU. xman, incredible 4, deadpool, blade will join the MCU and be ruined, but he wasn't MCU.
It should never be part of the MCU. As a Spidey and a Venom fan I hated it.
@@SamenSpelen unfortunately, due to the recent deal they made they may retcon it into the universe.
Just like Sony and Marvel!
NASA guy: That’s Jameson.
Jay Jonah Jameson: My son the astronaut!
Venom: We can do whatever we want.
Carnage: Ssssssssure...
Sequel hype.
That's One Interesting Pfp Ya Got there yep.
6-25-21
15:03 "Why would saying that suddenly make him like her?"
She started with get in the car, but ended with 'get in the back.' That could be interpreted a bunch of different ways.....
*laughs in Homer*
Hehehe.. .... rule34 dont fail me now
@Adrijana Radosevic are you on crack? took a harmless joke and made it into a boring diatribe on sex. and boinkin... hehehe boinking.
your name doesnt fail you Badrijana, for you truly are most definitely an Eggplant
It's easy, Venom says itself...he us and has gone through Eddie's memories. He would know if he likes her or not pretty easily.
@Adrijana Radosevic well Venom gains personality traits from their host. Sexuality could be one so this would be the first time Venom experiencing it.
Even when I don’t get to see her much in a review Tamara still cracks me up
“Critic I’m happy for you imma let you finish, BUT VENOM IS ONE OF THE BEST CHARACTERS OF ALL TIME, ONE OF THE BEST CHARACTERS OF ALL TIME!!!”
When I saw this movie at the theater, I turned to my parents and said: “not enough Nicolas Cage”
Spicy Tacoz r/onetruegod
And you parents stared at you, awkwardly, wondering what bizarre young-person lingo could possibly make sense out of the phrase "not enough Nicholas Cage".
@@TheGuardDuck That brings me a realization, they really can't do what they did with this film again. Can't they?
yeah running shouting IM A VEMON IM A VENOM IM A VENOM
In the ultimate comics, Venom would eat people whole.
And it was Bad... Wait for it... Ass!
True, but in the comics, they also made Venom eat chocolate as a way to curb his craving for brains. Comics are weird.
@@black369ace7 well that's just because chocolate shares a chemical compound with brain matter: phenethylamene
that makes more sense for venom to eat people whole, why the heck would he want to waste food.
The scary part of how he eats people is that he doesn’t use his mouth, he literally sucks you into his chest and digests you.
It doesn't need to be like the comics. It's meant to be a NEW version of Venom not tied to Spiderman
What is venom without spiderman. A husk of a character
so.. no venom then.
Now we just need it to not be shit and venom will be it's own thing
It still would’ve been more interesting. I like the movie sure but I still see why its not a good venom movie
@@AbdefFable1 dude besides the origin venom is a lot of things with out spiderman, they have so many stories where spiderman is uninvolved
Don't forget, there's gonna be a sequel. And Carnage is going to be in it.
Yeeeeaaaaahhh
The Sharktocrab eyes, lungs, pancreas
And it's with woody harralson
6-25-21
And Andy Serkis is directing it.
10:13 I just now realized you're doing those character introductions like how they did in Into The Spiderverse.
While I did like this film I only have one thing that bugged me was the way symboite isn’t like a sickness, they’re drugs, the more you use one the more you lose yourself to it’s intoxicating power.
Ragnarok Official in the ultimate universe it fed off the host. They may be using that a bit
That's sad.
From what I recall about the character of Venom, he was never overtly evil. Most of his bad guy stuff was almost exclusively directed toward Peter, usually leaving innocent people alone.
Since the beginning, venom has a rule of not killing innocents and kids. That's why he takes on him to team up with spidey to beat carnage. But he was really darker than that hugh grant-ish venom
Iskalde Edemark The Eddie Brooke Venom considers himself a hero and Spider-Man the villain. But it’s delusional and he is murdering people for minor crimes. He is an evil mirror to Spider-Man, but out for a bloody crusade with zero real moral compass. I think the original Venom was a great villain with a well established agenda, clear flaws and a fitting form of evil. But yeah, it all hinges on him being delusional, which is not the case in this movie, this movie clearly intends Venom to be a hero, not a villain, hence cutting away all his dark sides.
@@palaniuki Well, you're almost right. Eddie did in fact kill innocents in his first real appearance, Amazing Spider-Man #300. He regretted it even back then, but said "it was necessary if it a part of him punishing the Spider-Man" (keep in mind that back then Eddie Brock was written as a raving lunatic). Eventually this was sorta swept under the rug, Venm gradually got a more defined moral code and shifted into anti-hero territory (though he was still often written as a delusional lunatic; remember the lobster scene from the movie? This was more or less normal behavior for early 90s Venom).
@@davidgantenbein9362 He bit off a few heads and a whole body in the movie
I know that in a certain comic book symbiotes are benevolent beings, but their hosts that drives them mad because they're unstable.
Lmao, plugging Upgrade is even funnier because the main character is discount Tom Hardy lolol
Logan Marshall Green and Tom Hardy look so alike that Hardy could be switched with Green in 'Inception' and vice versa in 'Prometheus' and I wouldn't bat an eye...
@@lord_vwphaeton1883 when I first saw prometheus I thought he was Hardy and he just lost a bit of weight for the role or something lol
@@W1ll88 SAME!
I straight thought that hardy was in both upgrade and venom when I first saw the commercials
@@bashboi4074 LOL yep, shit is uncanny
Knowing the comic backstories really ruins anything this movie had.
12:46 Sleepy Venom makes me smile for some reason.
“We are Tranquilizer.”
Actually, that line "...on my planet I'm sorta a loser" was one of the best in the film. It simultaneously was hilarious but also helped connect Eddie to Venom.
Everything in this movie is either ironically or unironically enjoyable
Captain Barbossa yes it was stupid, and yes venom deserves better, but I’d say the movie is kinda like Spider-Man 3 where you enjoy and good and the bad parts
Also, "She-Venom" is still simply just Venom here. A different Host does not changes Venom's personality.
Tell that Venom before he bonded with Deadpool.
Oh really? Well in this movie yes, but in the comic, no way. The comics go into depth of how a different host can effect Venom’s personality, but I do see why you said that. Good comment
@@thedarkestsoulva9204 yes
She's still pretty weirdly hot looking though LOL
I think it would if he stayed with her long enough
9:31
*"We just want to give you Amazon gifts."*
That explode.
@@voidjockey82 Brought to you by Amazon.com.
That "Tell my dad I got pictures of Spider-Man" line had me nearly choking on my drink lol
Even though this isn't the best adaptation of Venom, I think most of us can agree that it's definitely better than the Venom from Spider Man 3.
to be fair the dirt I scraped off my shoe was better then that :D
Bullshit
Your Generic Toxic Fanbase I’m gonna kick some dirt in your eye
You want forgiveness? Get religion.
I feel like this would have been better if it was rated R
I... honestly would say not. Sure, they could have shown a lot more in terms of violence, show actual blood splatter and gore. But if it still had the same story, plot, and characters, then it would have ended up the same, just with people citing it as ten-times edgier and filled with grotesque, uncensored violence. The story, characters, and writing needed a lot of work, it felt super rushed like they were just hopping from point A to point B with no stops. It was like the director was saying, "screw pacing and taking our time building up the dynamic between these two characters, we got to bullet-point this sh*t!"
There's no levity, there's no time to breathe. There's no time given for these characters to grow and understand each other. As Critic explained, there's really is no reason for Venom to go from unstoppable hunger of death and destruction, to "I like you, let's save the world, pal." A-Rated R version would just show a lot more of the blood and carnage, but it wouldn't fix the more prominent issues with this movie, sadly.
Still love the series, i'd like these done:
Diary of a Wimpy Kid
Percy Jackson 2
A Series of Unfortunate Events
Holmes and Watson
Annie (2014)
Edit: Had to do this, since he already did one of these for disneycember (thank you whoever reminded me)
Edit 2: Thx for the likes, and added a new movie on there for the heck of it.
Awesome I love the series of the unfortunate events.
I liked Holes, the acting is a bit cheesy but it is enjoyable.
Aebaa Robele he did holes for Disneycember
@@theotakupunk3484 Shoot forgot. Thanks for reminding
Wait there was a percy Jackson 2
Upgrade is such a good movie.
I watched it yesterday. Agreed
"Call me "naughty, melted Licorice" and "Mr. Game-and-Watch snot."
-Venom
I liked the way Tom played Eddie, he actually sounds like a real person and not an emotionless, monotonous super soldier.
I agree-l very much enjoyed Tom Hardy’s performance.
Same!
"You (the human race) did not find us, WE (The symbiote race) found you."
There, fixed it
Less Breakfast you humans I think
Oh yeah, I completely forgot that's what he was talking about. If only there was some kind of high school level grammar rule that says to clarify the subject of each new pronoun when switching between different nouns 😏
"Your astronauts didn't find us; we found them."
"You" means human race and "We" means Symbiote race
@@imanobody7911 WRONG! A Symbiote who has combined with someone NEVER says I or YOU (to the host) they are simple WE. WE ARE VENOM, because they are ONE now. It has nothing to do with species. They even speak as one, even if speaking about just Brock or just the symbiote Venom will still say "Do you remember what you did to US!?"
@@anouk356 I know that. But in that one particular scene in the movie that Eddie is speaking directly with Venom, Venom tells Eddie: "You did not find us. We found you" in that scene he means that the symbiotes found the astronauts
I just noticed that he's using Chester's trench coat in the beginning
Anthony Watson Low budget film making at its finest.
You mean, did Chester....
DIE?!
Uhh.. Technically the bit where Venom mentions he was basically bullied on his homeworld and he wasn't popular was technically correct. In the comics Venom was ostracized on his world. This was mentioned in the comics prior to the movie's release.
You know, I was going to say "I'm surprised you didn't mention all the similarities between this and Upgrade", and then at the last minute you sort of did. There were soooo many similar details in both movies, from the main premise, to the puppeteer style body movements, all the way up the the stars of both movies. I honestly had to go to IMDB when I saw the first trailer for Upgrade, to make sure that wasn't Tom Hardy playing that role as well.
Couch Tomato covered this.
@@mickeyonyeka5878 never heard of him
I think about upgrade is it's a lot darker than the movie but also when Eddie is moving he just looks like he's possessed like he's unable to control his movements it's all jerky and such, while upgrade the opposite is trueit still gets across that he has no control over himself but rather than being almost by instinct or instead of being possessed it looks more like it's calculated, its precise,it's tight it looks like a machine is running his body
@@JakkFrost1 Just search on TH-cam, "Couch Tomato Venom Upgrade". You'll see.
There are some references to the comics of “Venom: Lethal Protector” and “Venom: Separation Anxiety”.
Topher Grace's Eddie: Oooh, my spider sense is tingling.
Venom: We don't talk about this.
Me: ME NEITHER!!! 😂
Venom"good... because if you do talk about...well..you know...Om nom nom...you feel me"?
Me: **sees alien queen animation**
Also Me: **dies laughing**
To be honest, I'd prefer a light hearted romcom style venom movie.
You got that, it was this movie.
And it was panned by everyone else.
Yassssssss
That Indie Reviewer It’s the reason we got it though that matters. Sony NEEDED lighthearted, good, Venomman to be the stand-in for SpiderMan, as they build their own cinematic universe.
Venomman’s journalism will be their connecting link as they bring out characters like Morbius. All while they milk the MCU for legitimacy with Sony made Spiderman movies.
It’s quite smart taking the slow MCU way, instead of the stupid Dark Universe and the rushed Snyder-verse ways.
@@GoatPopsicle
I'd much rather a movie do it's own thing than try be a weak substitution and fail.
@@TheDunnDusted To be fair, venom was incredibly successful lol.
Venom: Into the Symbio-verse.
@bryan diaz varela It's a joke, numbnuts.
Also, it's pronounced "Girls". Tell your mom you need to go back to grammar school
Venompool: Alright, you know the deal.
Ben J. Johnson
Isn’t there a “Symbiote Wars” comic? 🤔
3:51
NC: Isn’t that kinda like transitioning like this- *cues Batman intro* -and then never doing that again?
Me: *Looks back at Ralph Breaks the Internet
Except that movie was meant to be a goofy comedy, this movie was under the delusion that it should be taken seriously.
@@mr_lrb6879 You tell me with a straight face, that a film that unironically used the phrase "like a turd in the wind" wanted to be taken seriously. Venom was all about being a fun, light hearted, edgy superhero action film.
Me: *looks back at the Lego Batman movie*
19:48. Venom should have said “I just wanted to torture you some more,”.
"Miles Morales from the best Spider-Man movie ever!?"
Damn straight Doug
@KJ Beast and as a Spider-Man fan I enjoyed the fan service lol
@KJ Beast It was fan service done right. I’ve read maybe, like, two or three Marvel comics since I became a Marvel fan, and watching that movie felt like watching a living, breathing comic book. I loved how we finally got a Miles movie, because the teenage audience, including me, love him because we really relate to him. I also loved how Peter Parker and Spider-Gwen got the spotlight as well. I love both characters, and the arc Peter goes through in this film is PHENOMENAL. It made me want to see more of him.
Yes, that movie was fan service. It gives us Spider-Man fans what we want in a Spider-Man movie.
@@tjknightcringe asf
I just love how much fun Tom Hardy had playing this character, like he probably saw that shitty script and just went crazy with the character just for fun
He was trained in the art of Venom by his son, who is a Marvel fan.
The script was fine, I just hope Venom 2 is more dark and has less Marvel humor
At least one person enjoyed it.
I noticed that and it made the movie fun.. We all know that this movie wasn't going to gain Oscar nominations but it wasn't bad..
@@barracuda0405 and make it A soft Rated R..
Before this movie, I never thought I wanted a sexy female version of Venom. I was wrong.
She was created in 1995
You can imagine what the comic book fans felt like when they first saw her in the comics.
Now will they do a part 2 featuring the female venom again.
@@Darkmattermonkey77 yes
@@Darkmattermonkey77 yes
00:00 - For some reason, there's a super loud sound at the start of the video. Might want to fix that.
If I remember right, during Eddie's break-in, there are displays of the names of characters who were possessed by Symbiotes in the comics. For example, Scream's host was there.
I swear I thought Doug Edited in “Awwww that was nice”
Me too! It sounds so out of place I didn't thik they actually included it in the movie.
I actually loved upgrade, not often you see the “villain” win
No Country for Old men
Well thanks for the spoiler then!
Little Shop of Horrors: The Original Ending
Alexei Rivera - Technoclast movie has been out for more than a year, I think it’s past limitations on spoilers.
@@ericburton3963 Not when no one's heard of it.
First off Venom is my favorite comic book character
When I saw this movie I really couldn't stand how they missed so many opportunities with Venom and Eddie's comic book history and lore,
But after watching this more than once I began to enjoy it as a movie and not as a Venom movie, it's a decent and entertaining movie but alas it's not the Venom movie that would show everyone why this character has endured for so many years
Blind Red Dragon still better than Topher Grace
@@Megaproductions302 really? spider-man 3's venom isn't really that bad. it gets the job done. especially when you remmeber they wanted to divide spider-man 3 into part 1 and 2 and part 2 but itgot cancelled and had to fit in mst of part 2 into the movie we got.
that venom is serviceable. and at least his "non-host form" looks astonishingly great
Ian R. Nava Huber it was shit.
@@absurdturk I can see that, my brother best described this Venom movie as a comic book movie for people who don't read comics
I quite agree. Imagine if the Mozart fans would've been heard, then Amadeus wouldn't've existed
I liked Vemon. The look of him and the actor chosen.
It's Venom
"That is a very strange lady."
Cue the third shot from a two-barrel shotgun.
Bloody brilliant.
It's time for another nostalgiaween......
Me and Tom Hardy: *hiccup*
Critic: this movie is bad because it’s basically a romcom
God tier brain: this movie IS AMAZING because it’s basically a romcom
No it isn't. Romcoms are almost always cancer. This is not different. The only good thing about this movie is to remind people to be grateful it isn't 2002 anymore.
You’re just the life of the party huh
@@ionbing2884 /whoosh
First commenter:*gives a valid argument*
Next commenter:nuhu that's not true
Ninja Hombrepalito Sorry man didn’t see your comment.
Oh I completely agree. Since first subscribing to this guy I knew he was a shitty movie critic (as in critical thinking, knowledge of source material, knowledge of filmmaking, etc).
But I thought he was a decent skit writer. His Lorax one is probably my favorite. So I stay subscribed and just keep away from his ‘think piece’ stuff where he gives stone cold takes clearly based on personal tastes. I skipped through most of the skit stuff here I knew it would be insufferable ‘it’s wrong because it’s different’ crap.
I unironically enjoyed Venom. But I also adore that it’s structurally identical to a romcom.
Joker: mostly ignores the unclear origin of the character for a new story that nails the core themes of the character
Venom: mostly ignores the very clear and expanded upon origin of the character for a new storyline that misses the core themes of the character
I'm just saying venom had it spelled out for them and they screwed it up whilst Joker had very little to work with and was successful.
No, this a lot like the more recent comics. Venom with Eddie became more of a Anti-hero with a strict code not to harm innocent bystandars, just Spider-man. It's just that with out Spidey.
I don't think they actually understood the Joker character that much, I mean they made him look like an antihero who cares about the outcasts and he became the Joker as a result, when in reality the Joker is just a fucked up entity with no resemblance of human emotions, it was a decent movie with an interesting tone tho.
Yeah you could say that Joker was different in White Knight, but that's a whole different story and he had been cured of his insanity.
I think that is because they could not keep to the core themes of venom while making it another teen friendly anti-hero story. Venom is the story of a serial killer with Dissociative Identity Disorder and the urge to eat his victims, just add monster goo abilities and you got it.
Venom has for the longest time been a bit of a twisted cornball www.reddit.com/r/thevenomsite/comments/64zw4g/what_was_venoms_funniest_moment/?st=k33r7wpa&sh=26cbdb98
@@weeaboojones2451 I don't think the movies meant to be canon, it just an interesting take on his origin story, Joker himself says in killing joke "I like my past to be multiple choice ".
9:30 I laughed too hard at that
Also Holy Crap just watched The ending
F***** love Upgrade
It is an amazing film
Glad someone has seen that film
Seeing a Venom version of Nostalgia Critic would be pretty cool.
Hello we are Nostalgia Venom we remember it so you don't have to.
@@Rogue.Rainbow
Yes, that is awesome. *PUT IT ON A T-SHIRT!*
Okay, I feel like this had to be said so everyone can understand. I saw this movie with my friend a year ago, when it was first released. And they had told me that this movie was set in a universe WITHOUT Peter Parker a.k.a Spiderman! Eddie and venom's character and their development relied on Spiderman because it was him that brought them together! Peter Parker, who had taken away Eddie's job and caused him to resent the superhero. And Venom, who was Spiderman's first host but was rejected. When Eddie and Venom found each other, they used their hatred of Spiderman as a common ground for them to work together to bring the superhero down. But, there is no Peter Parker or Spiderman in this universe. This movie is set only on Eddie's point of view and in his world! So of course the story and the characters are going to change because they do not have the triggered Spidey to bring it to life.
Not to mention, even though people are offended by the fact that it wasn't truly based off the comics, again, the comics are based off of Spiderman universe, and you can't be in said universe if you do not have Spiderman! Meaning that Eddie, Venom and even Eddie's ex-girlfriend would act differently because they had different lives and different outcomes. Like in the 90's Spider Man Animated series. The symbiotes, mostly Venom, was brought to earth by JJ. Jameson the third but the rocket crashed into the Golden Gate bridge. Spiderman went there to save the astronauts but got infected with Venom. However, because there was no spiderman or J.J Jameson, that meant that the story had to changed. And that was only the beginning. Don't even get me started on when the Rhino came and Eddie took pictures of Spiderman "Robbing" the space shuttle. Again, this was only from the animated cartoon and I do not know how much canon that was from the comic. But the point is, not everything is going to 100% from the source material. Especially when creating a world where the main plot device (Spiderman) is not present.
I thought the movie was a bit silly, especially now looking at this review. But I still liked it. And yes, there might have been some material that they glossed over that they could have put in here without needing to reference Spidey. However, they did have to change a lot for the characters and story to fit into this new universe. Plus, they may add in more of Eddie's backstory if and when they end up making a sequel or at least find some way to tie in venom into future Marvel crossover movies. I just had to get that off my chest to inform you all.
Fuck, that was a lot to read. But thank you for informing us; it's really appreciated. At least by me
@Captain Barbossa It seems you weren’t listening but let me say it so you understand it. THEY COULD NOT STICK TO THE SOURCE MATERIAL FOR LEGAL PURPOSES!!!!
Captain Barbossa Something we can agree on if you can’t fully use the source material you shouldn’t make it that is true but with what they had they made a solid 6/10 movie
Actually the first host was deadpool which explains why venom is kinda fucked up the way he is
9:31
*"We Just Want To Give You Amazon Gifts."*
This felt like a lost early 2000's superhero movie
Ben McDonald anything wrong with that?
@@pizzavictory113 Yes. The early 2000s superhero movies were supershit. Sam Raimi's SM movies have aged poorly.
I think you mean mid 2000s
@@pizzavictory113 I think that's what's best about it. The movie may have a corny vibe, but it still has that corny vibe magic the Sam Raimi Spiderman offered.
Gummylox I love the movie
I am a massive comic book/Spider-Man fan, and I LOVED this movie! It wasn’t trying to be a super gritty and complex venom story like the ones we’ve gotten in recent years, it was paying homage to the kind of goofy, cornball version venom from the 80s to the early 90s who sings “Strangers in the Night” and the Mr. Roger’s Neighborhood theme song.
I remember Venom for being the lethal protector who OCCASIONALLY fought Spider-Man, not the guy who fought Spider-Man and occasionally did good. Magneto is the X-Men’s archenemy. It is often argued if Venom is Spider-Man’s archenemy and he has various solo series depicting him as an anti-hero rather than a villain while Magneto is seen as just a villain so comparing him to venom doesn’t work. And once you think about it, Spider-Man and Venom have teamed up more than they’ve fought. I like you guys’s videos and all, but I don’t think you really understand classic Venom the way you think you do.
(Also Venom wasn’t super dark in the original source material. Like I said a minute ago, Venom was a freaking cornball.)
(Also (again) why is She-Venom appearing before you even though she killed herself?)
This goofy Venom is pretty fun to watch, especially the “like a trud...in the wind” part.
It’s basically Venom saying:
“I like good people, but I also like to eat people. So if you don’t to be eaten, you will NOT prey on the innocent, and you will stay good with your hands in pockets.
*awkward silence *
On second thought, you can stay bad, so I can eat you.”
Yeah, like hasn't Venom at least Eddie Brock's Venom really been a anti hero for a longer time than he was just a villian? So I got to disagree with Critic saying people remeber Venom for mostly being a spiderman villian who sometime tes up with him.
I mean especially right now it seems like spiderman and venom while they still fight over the way Venom operates, don't really fight anymore.
I never read the comics or the old shows but I agree with you still I really liked the film (and the original spider-man trilogy). He mentioned how Eddie Brock became a VILLAIN in the comics but the movie has him as an antihero I also actually liked when he said something out of place like "aww that's nice" because it was really funny hearing it come out of his voice. Also the he asks why they were friends all of the sudden when all they did was go at each others throats when friends do that all the time.
@@thegaminghunter8171 in the comics venom.has said some goofy shit. so the whole all that's nice thing is not that out of character really
Oh God, they took Venom and they mixed him with the Mask!
Wow, kinda accurate. Maybe thats why I liked it more than expected.
Haha. There is a trailer with Venom and The Mask combined together
@@JustCozItsMe yes
You know after watching deadpool and venom all these movies reminded me of the non-marvel supported film Kick-Ass....does anyone still remember that movie???
Bish I loved that film at the time. I even liked the second
And Kick Ass reminds me of Super. It’s really underrated.
Gotham Knight love that movie even tho I hate everyone in it. Everyone is a creep
Worked a double every Wednesday for many years and due to schedule changes I'll be here on time instead.
Here's my Pros and Cons for Venom:
Pros:
1) Tom Hardy's performance is both engaging and hilarious
2) The CGI used on the symbiotes is actually really good
3) Venom's design and personality made him seem cool and creepy at the same time
4) It didn't get too serious that it couldn't be fun and it didn't get too silly that I couldn't take the plot seriously
5) Unlike Spiderman 3, the movie doesn't wait until the last ten minutes to give us Venom
Cons:
1) The villain started off interesting but then turned out to be another generic mad scientist type of villain
2) It takes a little too long before we see Venom on screen
3) Despite being an hour and forty five minutes long, the movie felt kinda short
4) There should've been a few more scenes of Venom fighting someone, maybe have a moment where he and Eddy try to take out a gang of thugs or something
So overall, I did like this movie, but more as it's own thing rather than a faithful adaptation; I've never read any Spiderman comics and I've only ever watched the Sam Raimi Spiderman movies, so I can't call myself a fan of Spiderman.
Despite its flaws, this was a fun and enjoyable movie, and I'm looking forward to its sequel. Overall, I give it an 8/10.
6/10 one bad thing I didnt like was San Francisco. I live here but I wouldve liked Detroit or Florida.
@@mychaeljones7279 -6.5/+10 for me because they butchered one of my favorite characters of all time. Especially when you take the fact that they were swearing up and down that this was gonna be a horror movie and it was gonna be rated r but JUST BEFORE the movie was released, the director said it's gonna be PG-13. That REALLY pissed me off
@@Devils_Lair_Comics My biggest issue with Eddie Brock was that he gave up for six months. The real Eddie Brock would have kept digging on the Life Foundation. He wouldn't bum around San Francisco waiting for the universe to toss him a bone. He would be on Drake like a really determined tick. You could still have his projection and irrational hatred, but on Drake instead of Parker. Granted, one could argue him being right in the end would be just as disrespectful to the character.
You forgot a pro.
Pro: Cletus Kassady.
@@tylerjester507 I don't know who that is...
13:00 Venom should’ve eaten Aunt May, that’ll be hilarious
It’s “great minds think alike”. Also, three.