The ESV Diadem with Apocrypha
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ค. 2024
- A review of the Cambridge Diadem English Standard Version (ESV) Reference Bible, with the Apocrypha (ISBN 9781316513392).
This volume is a sewn hardback containing all 66 books of the Protestant canon, along with Tobit, Judith, additions to Esther, Wisdom, Sirach, Baruch, the Letter of Jeremiah, The Prayer of Azariah and the Sond of the Three Young Men, Susanna, Bel and the Dragon, 1 Maccabees, 2 Maccabees, 1 Esdras, The Prayer of Manasseh, Psalm 151, 3 Maccabees, 2 Esdras, and 4 Maccabees. The Apocryaphal/Deuterocanonical books are placed in a section between the Old and New Testaments.
The ESV Diadem with Apocrypha is a relatively small volume, 8 5/8 x 6 1/8 x 1.6 inches in dimensions. It is an enlargement of the Cambridge Pitt Minion. The text block is sewn. The text is laid out in two columns, organized into paragraphs. The margins are narrow. Column-ordered center-column references are provided in a 6 to 7 point font. Text and translation notes (also 6 to 7 pt in height) are placed in the lower right-hand portion of the page.
The text itself is in an 8.2 point Lexicon font. Line spacing is 8.6 points. It is line-matched. The words of Christ are in black ink in this hardback edition. (In the calfskin and calf split leather editions that are available, the words of Christ are in red.)
The 36 grams per square meter (gsm) paper is relatively opaque. It is nearly matte. Show-through is not distracting, and there is no annoying paper sheen.
A concordance with over 3000 entries and 14,000 Scripture references is placed in the back, just before the map section, which includes 15 Cambridge color maps and a map index. The color maps are on heavier, semi-glossy paper. They do not enter the gutter. (A few black-and-white maps related to the Apocrypha appear between the Apocrypha and the New Testament.)
This volume is a blue hardback with a single, blue ribbon marker, 8 mm wide and 29 cm long. It lies open in Genesis without difficulty. Since the inner margin is narrow, the text tends to drop away from the eye into the gutter.
The English Standard Version is a mild revision of the Revised Standard Version of 1971.
Since this Bible is called 'Diadem,' the dust jacket and the cover are decorated with a crown of thorns.
Contents
00:00 Introduction
02:33 Page layout
05:02 Center column references, and notes
06:12 Page layout (continued)
06:55 The font in the text
08:20 Paper qualities
09:27 The black-and-white maps
10:31 The concordance
11:12 Map index and maps & sewn binding
12:47 Paste-off construction, cover, ribbon, etc.
14:33 Copyright page, prefaces
17:03 The dust jacket
17:52 The translation
22:20 The lack of cross references to the Apocrypha
23:09 The concordance does not cover the Apocrypha
23:26 Font comparisons
26:08 Summary
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A few more font comparisons may be viewed here: th-cam.com/video/YRg4uvtLDNs/w-d-xo.html .
Great video, thank you.
Now that the ESV has both a Catholic edition and a readily-available edition with the full Apocrypha (even if neither edition is published by Crossway), I can deem it to be a serious alternative to the RSV and NRSV and not just a glorified NASB. It would be nice if Thomas Nelson were to use their Orthodox Study Bible as the basis for a standard NKJV with Apocrypha. (That might give them the opportunity to update the NKJV's marginal notes in light of the NA28, too.)
I would love to see that: a NKJV with Apocrypha. And an OSB that uses the Septuagint in a more consistent manner as well.
I think that's an excellent idea - an NKJV with the Apocrypha. In addition to the Saint Athanasius Academy Septuagint, the old KJV Apocrypha would be useful for most of the books.
@@saulm58 absolutely 💯
@@RGrantJones if you had one English Bible to pick from which would it be? If your answer is the Old KJV which edition? New Cambridge KJV Paragraph, Third Millennium Bible, Cambridge KJV Cameo Edition, etc.? Thank you again Grant. When the day comes and we meet each other in God's Paradise I want to have great conversations with you. God love you.
@@peterpapoutsis496 - that's a great question, but I haven't been able to come up with an acceptable answer. Each specific edition I consider has at least one significant limitation.
I look forward to that day as well, Peter! Thank you for the kind thoughts. May God bless you and yours!
Excellent video once again. Thanks for your hard work and dedication to the Word of God!
Thanks much for the encouragement, Donald!
This is my favorite Bible thus far a d my main go to for sermon prep. Thanks for the review.
Thanks for commenting, Joshua!
Great job as always brother Jones. Hope you are well. God bless.
Thanks, Danny! All's well here. Hope the same's true for you.
Nice! I was wondering if you were going to review this. I've actually ordered the red calfskin version with the Apocrypha. I'll be having it for Christmas, so I'm looking forward to unboxing and taking a good look at it.
Thanks for commenting, eclipsesonic! I was uncertain about it because of my experience with the Cambridge NKJV wide-margin's small font, but in the end I decided to give it a try. I hope you enjoy your Christmas present.
Given this is effectively a larger version of the Pitt Minion, I actually find the font to be reasonably sized. I’m glad to see a reference edition with cross references for the Apocrypha (in the past I’ve had to use my reference editions of the NRSV for the Apocrypha).
I find this hardback to be a very handsome volume and while I’m usually more biased towards leather bound editions, this HB edition will serve me well for the rest of my natural life.
I've found that I can read it without a great deal of difficulty with my glasses off. That's one advantage of nearsightedness for some older people. Thanks for commenting!
Thanks for the review, I’ve been waiting for this edition for a while but I’m still torn between it and the Cameo with apocrypha, as I believe the Cameo references the apocryphal books in the OT & NT references
Thanks for commenting, Ryan! I don't have time to do a thorough check at the moment, but the original KJV has a reference to Tobit 4.7 at Lk 14.13. The Cameo does not. The original KJV also has a reference to Wisdom 7.26 at Hebrews 1.3. The Cameo does not. The original KJV has a reference to 2 Macc 7.7 at Hebrews 11.35. The Cameo instead points the reader to 2 Macc 6.19, 28 at that spot in Hebrews.
Thanks for the clarification, perhaps I’ll check out the Hendrickson 1611 edition. God bless.
The Cornerstone Edition apparently is a larger font than the Diadem. I believe it's 9.5 font.
PLEASE ANSWER:
Sorry I am a Newbie. Besides OSB, which books have the full apocrypha? You said Ecumenical bibles (not CE). Can you give me a list of those books? Do we have ESV or RSV (NOT NRSV) versions of them? I have OSB, i am looking for alternatives for parallel read. God bless!
Yes, there are ESV and RSV versions. The ESV versions are in the Diadem I reviewed in this video. They're also available in a separate volume: th-cam.com/video/S3QpluQACBo/w-d-xo.html . You can find the RSV versions here th-cam.com/video/1Smi6d-rPcY/w-d-xo.html and here th-cam.com/video/LxICiv-G5JI/w-d-xo.html .
The books are:
Tobit
Judith
Esther (with additions)
Wisdom of Solomon
Wisdom of Sirach
Baruch
The Letter of Jeremiah
The Prayer of Azariah and the Song of the Three Young Men
Susanna
Bel and the Dragon
1 Maccabees
2 Maccabees
1 Esdras
The Prayer of Manasseh
Psalm 151
3 Maccabees
2 Esdras
4 Maccabees
Would you prefer this Bible or the Anglican Liturgy Press ESV w/Apocrypha ? Getting a Bible to read alongside Jaroslav Pelikan's Christian History series.
Thanks for the question. I haven't seen the Anglican edition. I suspect it doesn't have references. If that's the case, I would prefer this one.
How would you compare the print/font boldness/darkness to, say, the Allan petit medieval clarendon? I'm always on the lookout for an ESV with non-terrible print, but some of the potential candidates are simply too expensive to buy in the hopes of being decent😃
And also; good review. I like your breakdown and all the details.
Sorry, but I don't recall that font. Thanks for the kind words!
@@RGrantJones That is understandable. I think I might have gotten a good enough overview based on the comparisons you did in the video. It seems the ESV still labours under the curse of its light printing🙂
I have this and love it. I ditched the dust jacket though, I like to see the crown of thorns on the elegant boards rather than the (in my opinion, somewhat busy and tacky) artwork of Christ and block of sales-speak on the back.
Thanks for commenting, M B! I covered my copy with a book sock.
@@RGrantJones where can we find book socks? Love to get some.
@@peterpapoutsis496 - I've ordered them from Amazon in the past. Unhappily, these days it's hard to find regular sized ones. They're mostly Jumbo. Just search for 'book sox' or go to booksox.com.
You may have mentioned this in another place but is Tobit in the ESV based on the longer or shorter textform?
In this edition, it's based on the longer text, supplemented by the shorter and the Latin. Some earlier editions of the ESV Apocrypha, such as that in the Lutheran edition, are based on the shorter. In this video, I mention the basis for Tobit at about the 16:05 point. The topic also comes up in the next video, the brief supplement with additional font comparisons.
@@RGrantJones Thank you. Oh that's embarrassing, don't know how I could have missed that in the video. Guess I'll have to start paying better attention!
@@aaronmueller5802 - I just assumed you were like me and prone skipping around in videos. Thanks for commenting!
What is the track you use in the intros? Thanks for such quality dedication to the Word of God!
Thank you for that kind comment! That's “Lord Jesus, Think on Me.”
Would you recommend it as an alternative for a LXX translation?
I would consider it a supplement, but I wouldn't want to do without a good English translation of the LXX.
@@RGrantJones good to know, thank you for your answer.
@@RGrantJones how would you rate the English translations of the Septuagint we currently have from Brenton to Lexham?
@@peterpapoutsis496 - It would be challenging to come up with an objective way to rate them: Choose, say, fifty verses or so of consequence, with a good representation from passages of Messianic import, then score them as according to a set of criteria, such as accuracy, and how well they present in English the sense that fits early Christian interpretations. But in the absence of such an approach, I can only give my subjective sense. I would rate the OSB high if it were a consistent LXX translation, since the translators often show an awareness of the prophetic character of passages. The LES tries to do so, though it sometimes fails. Brenton's translation is generally good, but he's sometimes inaccurate, and he doesn't seem concerned with the way the text was read in the early Church. I haven't found errors in NETS, but like Brenton, the work is academic rather than devout in character. I haven't spent a great deal of time with Thomson, but my impression is that his work is less literal than Brenton. So my take is
1. LES
2. NETS
3. Brenton
4. Thomson
and I leave the OSB out, awaiting a corrected edition.
But if you were to ask me the desert island question, I would answer 'NETS' because it contains so much useful background information, as well as translations of different source texts.
@@RGrantJones Thanks Grant. That's actually what I ranked them at. Also, I am patiently awaiting the MASSIVE revision of the Orthodox Study Bible. Currently I'm just correcting it as I go along. Very annoying and time consuming to render an "Orthodox" bible Orthodox. SMH!
I've got both of these Bibles, but the versions without the apocrypha. The paper and printing of the NRSV, at least in mine, is better. The reference bar of the esv is much more useful though
Excellent review! This Bible is my favorite that I never use because the small font hurts my eyes if I read it for more than a few minutes. The small font is unfortunate because I rather like the translation.
Thanks for the kind comment, Gil! The small font is a serious issue. Perhaps Cambridge can see its way to publishing a 9.5 to 10 point font edition.
@@RGrantJones It would've been relevant for review to include comparison in font size etc with the ESV Apocrypha Lutheran Edition with Notes. I'm guessing these are the only currently avialable versions of ESV Apocrypha.
@@williamearle6281 - Yes, I wish I had thought of it when I was taping font comparisons.
@@RGrantJones I see there are now ESV with Apocrypha advertised 9.5 font (but no cross references). Perhaps they are easier to read than the "9.5" font of the Lutheran ESV Apocrypha. Have you looked at any of those? Alas I already find the "10 point" font of the Augustine Bible hard enough with my eyesight, though it is very attractive, so I strain myself. To be thorough, it would be interesting to see if there are any differences in readability between the recent ESV standalone Apocrypha, and the ESV Bible with Apocrypha.
@@williamearle6281 - I plan to acquire a copy of the standalone ESV Apocrypha soon and review it. I reviewed the Lutheran ESV Apocrypha a few months ago, and it has a larger font. I may release a brief supplemental font comparison video today or tomorrow to show the Diadem's font alongside that of the Lutheran edition.
Does this have the longer Tobit or the short one?
Longer. Watch from the 16:28 point. Thanks for the question.
@@RGrantJones I appreciate you for always taking the time to answer. I love watching your videos. Very informative.
@@KaiserAllen - thank you for letting me know!
The only thing I don't like about this bible is the font size. Wish it was bigger.
I agree - I would like a larger font. Thanks for commenting!
25:24 Wait, wouldn't any blackface typeface Bibles be cancelled today? Perhaps why so many faintly printed Bibles these days.
Lol.
Am gonn go ahead and say something becuase I have some info.
The ESV bible is a “middle of the road bible”
But, when I compare it to my Jerusalem bible in spanish to the ESV
Its identical word per word.
The Jerusalem bible is supposed to be better than any bible in English.
No matter the case it seems like all the bibles are true to the word.
Now the ESV is Also similar to the NABRE but not identical.
Aslong as you have a revised bible your Ok
No matter how much you know I saw something with my own eyes
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