I saw this at the LA Auto Show. This thing is going to sell like mad. It's larger than it looks, has a enormous amount of room inside, and looks cool. It's a combo VW Bus and Eurovan.
Honestly, the greatest thing about the removable center console, is the ability to pull it out and vacuum between the seats. Any vehicle owner knows the frustration of that microscopic gap between that seats that is virtually impossible to get as clean as you'd like. I honestly think this thing is great. As a parent, I would think about getting one if the price range is where you estimate.
There’s actually a shortcut for the heated seats. Press both the hot and cold climate slider at the same time and it will turn on, adjust the level, or turn off the heated seats
@@myemailiscool in an updated version of vws infotainment (found in the new id7, which will also make it to other vw models in the near future), the car will teach you new ways to use shortcuts over time, so you dont have to dig through the manual and you could always say "hello ID, my bum is cold!"
I don't get this complaining about the climate controls anyway, mine are set on auto, that is how they stay except for defog and changing the temperature maybe 1 or 2 degrees. Easy access, i.e. a button, for seat heater is a good idea, though
Too bad the US market isn’t getting the cargo version of this. I would absolutely love to convert one into a mobile detailing rig! Would be totally awesome!
I really think the cargo version would take off in North America, especially if there are savings from stripping out the interior. The fun character of the car would be great branding for your business and its the perfect size for working in and around cities and large towns. Mobile bike repair? Cupcake delivery? Lots of potential I would bet.
Unluckily, we can't ever get practical use vehicles here, only things that are large and obvious flexes of wealth. I sincerely think Doug low-balled the price, there's no way the base isn't like $50k and it'll probably max at like $70k if I had to guess based on our market
I was more so thinking that this version would sell amazingly in the us because of the huge burst of popularity of van life as well. That’s basically a clean slate for anyone to convert the van into a home
@@VIRIS2 Yeah I could see that if it dropped at a lower price point then it could be popular among people with alternative lifestyles like that. It's a shame that it would likely be too small of a market just compared to people who only want a crossover/SUV style vehicle. Like even though it could be a burgeoning market, it's way overshadowed by the massive market we have for large "family" vehicles
Cool van I love the ID Buzz though not everything is set in ston when it comes to power traon, ptiving. Market position, and other info I think it's cool but for now, it's a misterz.
My family had a bus when I was a kid and outside of the fact that even big rigs passed us going up hills, the bus was awesome. This Buzz brings back good childhood memories and, yes, I want one!
My complaint with the slider controls is that both volume and temperature are things that typically require very small adjustments. A quick 1-2 button tap to move volume from 8-10 or 14-15 on the volume or 70-72 degrees is normal. Sliding/swiping is great for a large changes which don't typically take place here. Not exactly changing the temp from 60-85 and even if your jam comes on and you want to crank the volume a simple knob is still probably a better option.
@@D-Rockkhe was weirdly positive about a lot of stuff he is usually negative about. That said he generally is kind when automakers do something different, so idk.
The ID Buzz (in both family and cargo versions) is starting to become somewhat common here in Gothenburg, Sweden. Had a test drive last December and really liked it!
My big question is have there been complaints on the infotainment software. Since the I.D.4 was released, there has been huge issues with it, and I presume that this is pretty much the same package given the chassis.
After looking at the VW Id Buzz, Whoever designed the 1989-1995 Mazda MPV should be given a medal. 7 passenger ? 176 inches long? Genius. My favourite feature of the VW van here is the capacity for sleeping in the back.
I was thinking the same thing when Doug was talking about pricing. The hype surrounding this as well as dealer price-gouging…you’d be lucky to buy one of these for under $60K.
@@simonburkeisable It's not only VW, it's common for European manufacturers to release their vehicles to European markets months or 1-2 years prior. It's always been like this for years.
Putting the sliding door buttons in a center location, charge ports in the doors, gauge cluster on the column, makes dashboard design a lot easier for when you have markets with right hand steering. Less changes they have to make to dash design, the less expensive it'll be. Clever.
Watching Doug's videos makes me happier than any antidepressants ever have. I'm not a car guy, but Doug could talk about anything and his infectious passion would make it seem utterly fascinating.
Who the hell cares. VW wants to know, would you part with $50k ($60k with options!) to buy this cheap, low-rent POS filled with hard plastics from top to bottom? I sure as HELL WOULD NOT.
Borrowed our demo Cargo from work for the weekend to get rid of some crap after christmas and fell completely in love with it. The turning radius, low center of gravity and general driving position made it surprisingly nimble. A great car to drive and without a doubt my favorite in the MEB-family. The Enyaq is nice but I'd rather have the Buzz, easy. I think this will get insanely popular.
typically I'm a proponent of gas and diesel vehicles, especially older model cars without the ipad infotainment system and with good old buttons and dials. But I gotta say... This car is very cute, and I could get over the fact it's electric and has an ipad installed in the center. Well done VW, well done.
Hopefully not. Or rational thinking people, who matter, will have to deal with more mental patients. Hey, Mr IQ Compromised, climate change is not only not an existential threat,m it's the best money making scam geared to the least intelligent people on the planet. Good thing that people like you have GPS to help you get home every night.
Already seen a few of these going around here. There's something nice about it, unique and modern but still fit into regular traffic. If you don't know waht it is you don't even notice but if you can still spot even a in a big traffic jam. Kinda like the Honda E in this regard, we need more stuff like this.
Love this so much. I'm a single, childless, adult. I drive a minivan because it's incredible. Room for everyone and everything. Great at hauling cargo, pets, or projects. It's super comfortable on long and short drives, easy to maintain, good on gas, and... Boring to drive and look at. The bigger HP version of this is going to be a game changer and I can't wait to see it!
I love it too. Looks very practical and I like the looks too. $50K+ for the AWD version is a bit on the expensive side, but not unexpected for an EV with this range and size.
I completely agree. I have kids that are almost adults now and I really miss my minivan. Now that I can get any vehicle I want...I can't wait to get another minivan.
@@mrrakalanov Lemme guess, you believe your personality is your vehicle so you have to overcompensate and buy a loud and large stupid vehicle because you're such a boring, shallow and dull person? Typical of people who say things like "soy boy".
When I drove it, I thought that it felt more like a regular car than a van and I had no problem with visibility as such. You get a very good feeling of its dimensions on the road pretty quickly. Only thing I really missed is the lack of the variable architecture for seats an tables you get from the T7.
The sliders are better than touch up or down buttons but for volume & temperature setting nothing beats a dial. A dial can be easily found without looking, it can be adjusted very granular or very broadly quick. I just got a new car and it has dials for volume and the dual zone temperature control. It has physical buttons for heated seats, front demist, rear demist auto, recir & on/off. In the infotainment system there's a truckload of other settings for climate you can adjust but the basic everyday ones that you want often are buttons. I think it's perfect mix, it's quite minimalist but still very functional.
The VW touch sensitive controls are atrocious, and I’m not even mentioning the touch sensitive buttons on the steering wheel which are too easy to accidentally actuate. I don’t think there’s a single reviewer that has anything positive to say about them.
A two step process involving the screen to turn on the seat or steering wheel heaters is another needless annoyance. I can turn on both of mine without looking.
This car's design is just brilliant - it brings about a sense of fun and whimsy that's severely lacking in the family-hauler space today. So many of them are incredibly surgical and spiritless, and are entirely uninspiring to see on the road. But this? I know I'll get a smile on my face whenever I see one driving past :) (Now I just hope they're reliable enough to last)
Interesting thought; I never thought about that. But I was thinking that the Hyundai Ioniq cars have their square pixels, and VW (at least the Buzz) have their diamonds.
I've been waiting for the ID Buzz to hit the market for years, kind of wondering whether or not it actually would. Nice to see it on the road. I hope, when it finally makes it to the U.S. market, it isn't priced like other EVs, i.e. entirely unaffordable for 98% of people. We'll see. Also, given Doug's size, it looks pretty roomy in there. Plenty of headroom and legroom for taller people. Pretty cool.
@@pasofino9583 - I've heard it'll hit the U.S. market sometime next year, but nothing definite. VW doesn't seem to have an exact time, as far as I can tell. Just have to wait and see.
I hope the US long wheelbase version comes with windows that can roll down in the 2nd row sliding doors. It would also be nice if they could make the 2nd row seats removable (since I doubt they can make them fold into the floor like the Chrysler Stow-n-go), and the 3rd row fold into the floor, like all the other minivans have had for the last 10+ years.
This definitely isn't being marketed as a family vehicle, I appreciate North American enthusiasm about putting kids in the back like you bought the bus in 1985 for 200 bucks as a daily driver. This is meant to lean towards panel vans, work vans or outdoor staycations 😂
I operate a funeral home and this car would be perfect for us as as a "removal car" if the seats would come out. All the european reviews i've seen said they won't, too bad.
9:43 I have used these in a few cars for me it never seems tk regisyer my touch and then that area gets so dirty so quick. Its easier, simpler and better to kust have a knob
@@concorde__ I don't think it's that much of an effort for him. I mean, it probably is with all the travel he does, but he's just lucky enough to be a very energetic guy who's doing exactly what he wants to do.
For real....I agree. A short wheel base is nice in crowded city parking....not everyone has space for an Escalade length vehicle in their garage. America doesn't always have to mean bigger.
I could see a lot of former Honda Element owners who want to go electric and can afford it going for a short wheelbase model. Too bad it won't be offered that way in North America. The die hard Honda Element folks seem to love the size, versatility, and funkiness of their vehicles still to this day.
Hey! Rational thinkers don't want EV's, which are marketed to numbheads who think that "climate change" is real, much less than an existential threat. Congrats on adding your DNA to the lower form of evolution, i.e ,,,, the sheep.
This thing looks like it’s going to be awesome. Such a shame we only get the LWB here in the US though. Would be nicer for those of us without kids that just want a quirky runabout with utility space.
@@turbo_marc I’m not saying the long wheel base version won’t do well for the people with kids and such but not only does it physically look weird being too long compared to the short wheelbase van it’s also going to add a lot of complexity to the rear of the vehicle along with weight. Two things nobody wants in an EV meant to be used for some utility as well as be efficient. And of course it will be far more expensive because that’s what we need more expensive basic economic transportation, which is what the Volkswagen bus was always meant to be.
I will have to admit, I saw a euro spec version of the ID Buzz running around the village of Woodstock, NY back in April of this year. Somehow someone was able to get one ahead of time. 🤷♂️
I grew up in the Beetle and as a child, I really liked this car and the van. They'll always be nostalgic whenever I see or hear the engine of one. The uncomfortable seats, the lack of air conditioning and radio. Our Beetle had no radio in it. The Las Vegas Summers made this almost impossible to be in it for long periods of time. But the trips and memories it made. It's nice to see a modern version of the bus. It'll be cool to see Volkswagen bring back the Beetle in a similar way.
Hey Ho! I also grew up with the Beetle, Bus, and the "Thing"". The VWs were a mechanical horror show; the bus would do 10mph up a SMALL hill. But hey, memories. And YES, a circa 1950-1960 Beetle with the STAND OUT black steering wheel, silver horn ring AND the Wolfsburg crest in the center{ for all you nanny state lovers-- the airbag can go into the seat belt webbing} in FULL ELECTRICK style. The conversion VWs have MUCH improved handling, ride SPEED, over the 'neo lawn mower engine' of the originals.
The pause and play button for the brake and accelerator petals look like a really stupid idea… That’s cute for about two seconds… Someone should’ve next it. But the real concern is you got that metal which could be slippery unless your foot is on the edge or in the center. So of course I would have to try it out… But it seems like a dopey decision.
My parents in New Mexico had an original style Beetle with AC in the 80's. It worked well. Of course it was aftermarket, and similar aftermarket ones are still available today to fit into your now very expensive original Beetle.
This is a retro design done right! usually I don't like electric vehicles, or the split A-pillar, but here it actually looks good and modern, while still being so close to the original that non car people could even mistake it for the original sometimes. Somehow it also is a minivan without being a minivan. And its made for camping with the cargo floor option and the removable center console. only downside I see so far is the tachometer does not have the overhang above it like most do, might reflect the sun in bad ways, but not sure. Otherwise great van!
I completely disagree, starting with that monstrosity of a screen in the middle of the dashboard. How can you even call it a "retro" design when the interior looks nothing like the original? Neither does the exterior, for that matter, with the most recognizable, iconic part about the original vehicle (the round headlights) being completely absent from this design. This looks more like a generic minivan to me. The original concept wasn't perfect, but it still manages to pull it off better than this production version.
in the richer parts of Copenhagen these are selling like wow. especially as fleets asked my local vw dealer and the back orders were crazy Being a contractor here it is THE VAN to have it seems
Most people are not meant to have cars under commie green new deal in Europe. I hope you vote for AfD. Otherwise don't complain about car prices in Europe.
I own a 2003 Eurovan Camper, bought it after I heard it was the last year model. Sold my 1999 to get it. I love the look of the Buzz and I’m super happy the extended wheel base is coming with AWD. I’ll be waiting for a camper version in I guess 2029 or so with double the range. 270 miles won’t cut it for me. Hopefully battery technology will have improved and they fix this horrid range.
They used those motors in the conventional bus, I think the T5 or T6 had them. A friend had one of those, it was absolutely incredible, at least back then.
@@kekelapp0r correct it was the t5 transporter/caravelle/multivan it was cool in concept but in reality the diesels were a better fit because of the torque. It felt slower because of the weight of the vans and lack of torque being a petrol
I wish North America would also get the short wheel base version. For my family's needs, the only thing the third row would accomplish is to add unnecessary weight. My favorite thing about the Atlas Cross Sport is that the third row just doesn't exist, which results in more room in the second row and it has a _HUGE_ space for the trunk! In fact, that omission of the third row is why I chose the Atlas Cross Sport in the end. I hope the ID Buzz will allow people to not only remove the third row seats, but also to place a sort of board over the area where the third row seat connection area is, thus allowing for a flat cargo area.
This is coming to Australia in 2025 and I think it will be a massive hit. The trade version will also be very popular due to rising fuel costs and building supply costs.
Finally! I've seen about 3 of these so far on the Autobahn but with VW License Plates but they look even better in Person and i was waiting for Doug telling me all about the Quirks and Features as well as his Opinion on how these drive. Fact is, they will sell like Beer in a Bavarian Biergarten, gonna be curious to see if they are gonna be marked up in the USA Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
Sehe hier in Dortmund einige davon rumdüsen und sie sind einfach nur grandios!! Jeder grinst, jeder freut sich, die Fahrer sind glücklich...tolles Auto!!
10:36 - Somewhere in the comments I’m sure someone beat me to it but you can turn on heated seats in ONE step 10:36 by pressing/touching both hot/cold temp selectors simultaneously on the respective side for whichever seat you want to turn on. This is how you do it in the ID.4 so I’m sure it’s the same.
@@JohnnyZenith Of course it depends on your needs but it'd be pretty impractical tbh. The regular model is over 4.7 meters in length, which is already above average. The L2 model will go above 5 meters and it's gonna be a nightmare to park or maneuver. Plus it's already an expensive vehicle, we're talking 66 to 74k EUR (72 to 83k USD)
This is so cool to see, also the picture you included from the cargo version, the number plate is from the city where I live. I had a temporary job at the Volkswagen Factory (Yes, Hannover is the city where the Transporters, Multivans and other vans are built, including the ID BUZZ!). My job was to inspect the bumpers before being assembled on the vans on the assembly line. ID Buzz, T6 and T7 Transporters. I remember seeing them going slowly on the assembly line and it was cool to see it every day.
The 2-tone paint, and the 2-tone interior, greatly add to its stylishness. It would be great if the buyer could opt for many, many possible 2-tones, combining colors as he individually chose. If this van were gray inside and out, it would be nothing.
Nope, that'll be ICE T7 California sharing platform with T7 Caravelle, T7 Transporter and a forthcoming Ford Transit Custom. This is a non commercial platform and that panel van version is a joke.
BUZZ KILL The fact that the windshield is so far away from the driver is disappointing. Yes, safety. But that's what I loved about the Bus! The forward control, sitting over the front wheels, up front driving experience
Appreciate the review, Doug! Hope this sells well in the States so that we can finally get a slice of what VW offers Europe with the California. Given the uptick in sprintervan sales and campervan rentals, how can VW not want to sell vans for road trips and camping?
For the wireless charging pad, I wonder if you'll get an alert if you forget your phone on the charging pad. My 2023 Kia Sportage gives you an alert/alarm on your gauge cluster when you forget your phone in the charging pad charging pad.
The longer wheel base version is actually confirmed with a 340 horsepower 4WD and 85 kwh battery with 500km range. I assume this will also be the version for the US. Unfortunately, it is still based on the old platform as the id.7 (on the new platform) offers 700km of range with the same length and battery size. Btw, even the European short version will get 300 horsepower 4WD, they are already selling it.
Saw the previous buzz video. Cool that you finally get to drive it. It just seems fun to drive. Like emotion factor on 100. Just a cute quirky vehicle. Nice job VW.
I wish it were flatter in the front, like the original VW bus. I'm not a big fan of how the front protrudes outward. I really want to love this thing though.
Right. With the original, you could look straight down and see the street. I would love that viewpoint, but I guess safety wise, it would be disastrous during a crash.
Yeah but they literally can’t do that anymore because of safety regulations they tried to still get the same kind of look by moving the front window father away
My dad's 1973 VW Kombi bus was 8 inches shorter and 10 inches narrower than this SWB Buzz and yet it had three rows of seats for up to 8 people. Obviously, it had a far more spartan interior with almost no features, but a lot of quirks.
Volvo had a safety car with see-through A-pillars a few years ago. They made it that way by using Eiffel style criss cross stiffening struts between two thin verticals.Then it was covered with a piece of glass on the outside. I guess it either didn't work as well as expected, or was too expensive to implement. The Buzz could use something like that design I'm thinking.
@@fortheloveofnoise Agree, but just now realized that a part like that might be a candidate for 3d printing someday. That seems to be getting cheaper and better every day.
As much as I’d want to daily a sports car, a tuned up van with an interesting engine/motor would be so fun. Nothing crazy just 300hp/300ftlbs at the wheels for the top trim with a balanced chassis and we’ll tuned suspension it’d be a hit. A lot of enthusiast have their dream car they tuck away for special occasions but a lot of us just want something we can also drive everyday and still have fun. Fun, practicality, and comfort shouldn’t be 50k+. These should be the standard for modern cars.
Yikes… those minivan comparison ratings at the end. I do like the cool factor of this vehicle, but here are real uses for my minivan that I can’t see this delivering on: take six kids and gear to a tournament on Saturday, then take all the seats out and grab 10’ lumber on Sunday (that’s what the removable console does in the Odyssey) as well as a few sheets of plywood.
A note regarding cup holders, they're far less common here in Europe because we don't have the same Starbucks culture as americans. It's far more common to see 0.5 liter bottles for drinks and, specifically here in Italy, we tend to get an espresso at the bar instead of carrying around large cups of coffee. I have never used the cup holders in my car, I stick a bottle in my door pocket and I'm good to go. Cup holders are actually chewing-gum holders.
Starbucks culture? What the fuck is that. Also cup holders are so useful for everything besides drinks. Do you not carry a water bottle with you? Very useful car feature. Don't act so snobby. Used all around the world.
Doug already quashed that argument while reviewing Metris which he hated so much but somehow he loves Buzz which is the same thing. Namely he does not care about what's compact vans like in Europe because he's benchmarking reviewed cars against what available in the US. Did he apply the same standards to Buzz which he had to Metris, he would find Buzz an utter crap. To start with rear seats which do not fold down into the floor, which he lambasted so much. He's a hypocrite.
@@fortheloveofnoise what do you mean with the temperatures? What I’m saying is that cups aren’t part of our culture, at least in Italy. If you want water, it comes in a bottle - cup holders are too shallow for that. It’s not like cups don’t exist, but they’re rare. This is probably why Starbucks never took off, it has like 10 locations and most of them are inside airports
Love the buzz. I was seeing a few on the Autobahn already and I think they’re practical and just brighten one’s day. The problem with the sliders is: Europeans want haptic feel. The complaint was, that vw tries to save money at the wrong places by going with all these capacitive touch buttons. :)
"Everyone's complaining about them, and I don't understand why." It's pretty easy, actually. Sure, I could sit there and slide my finger back and forth over and over again to change the temperature from 84F to 68F, or I could instantly go from full hot to full cold (or anywhere in between) with a single turn of a knob. Just because the touch sensors "work" doesn't mean it's a logical, convenient way to control such features. With touch-sensitive controls, you're forced to look at the screen to even know whether or not they're even registering your input, let alone doing exactly what you want them to. And looking at a raw number on a screen isn't as intuitive as glancing at a fixed knob to see what position it's in. In other words, I know immediately how warm the air is coming out of my vents when I see the knob is set to 11 o'clock. It's also infinitely easier for me to turn it from 11 to 12 o'clock than it is to slide my finger such a small, precise amount. There are good reasons why many race cars still use analog gauges. One of them is that you can clock the gauges so that when they're in their normal operating range, the needle is oriented at 12 o'clock, making it super easy to instantly determine any deviation from the norm on any given gauge. Is it absolutely necessary to use analog gauges for everything? No. Is it absolutely crucial to clock the gauges to make the needles all line up? No. But it works that much better than just sticking a gauge in the dash haphazardly or shoving a number onto a screen somewhere. It makes little sense not to do it that way when there's no downside to doing it that way. That's the problem with touch controls, especially for specific functions like climate control: there's no downside to just using a couple knobs and buttons. My guess is that these don't bother you so much because you're not forced to actually use them on a daily basis.
"I think most rational people will have no problem." And you'd be wrong about that. VW is already moving back to physical buttons on their steering wheels based on... wait for it... customer feedback. The vast majority of drivers hate these things because they're less intuitive and less easy to use. Imagine going back to pushbutton transmissions, with a single button for P, R, N, D, and L, but instead of having actual push buttons, they're just capacitive touch buttons. Sure, it could work just fine. Does that mean car buyers should just shut up and accept it, or should they demand a return to sensible design? By your logic, it's the first one. There's nothing blatantly "wrong" about it so people should just stop being such complainers!
I remember a feature from the previous ID Buzz video that wasn't shown in this one: the flip-out trailer hitch! If VW doesn't even offer an optional hitch for the US version I'm sticking with my 2005 Chevy Astro. It's nearly identical in size to the short-wheelbase Buzz--especially the interior--and can tow up to 6000 pounds. Also has 280k original miles & still runs like a champ!
10:14 RE: Touch sliders - what happens when you hop in the car in winter and want to turn up the heat? I assume you have to take your gloves/mittens off, first? - if you’re sliding the temp down for the passenger and overshoot, are you going to suddenly crank the volume of your music/radio/directions to ear-splitting levels? - how’s the tactility for operating them while keeping your eyes on the road? - how easy is it to find them _without_ looking at the screen and _without_ accidentally tapping the screen and causing something unwanted to happen? - do they provide _any_ upsides compared to a physical slider or knob? Touch-sensitive controls that you might want to operate while driving might be a slight improvement over a touchscreen, depending on the details of implementation, but I don’t see how they’re _any_ improvement over physical controls-and they come with some significant downsides to offset those probably-non-existent upsides.
@@kraenk12 it's a sub par electric vehicle that's catering to yuppies. I don't know about you, but I still like value for my money even when I can afford things.
This ID Buzz is going to be an interesting curiosity when it comes out, I like what I see, not really for me or for my needs, but it's very cool, hope it comes out in cool colors to add even more to the appeal of this van. Peace! 😁💛☮
The sliders aren’t a good idea because of 2 things: it requires you to look at the screen instead of the road to see the temperature and making fine adjustments can be more tedious or frustrating. With buttons, you know the set temp and press the button accordingly to how much you want it to change, and you do all of this without needing to see what is going on.
@@Horizon301. if you want to see the temperature, you will have do look no matter what control you use. Until someone invents braille controls and you learn braille.
As someone driving a car with VWs current touch controls I can definitely say: The temperature and volume sliders are everything but intuitive when it's dark and you're focused on driving. It straight up sucks. In my Formentor they are also ridiculously unresponsive. Don't get me started on touch light controls. Yeah if it's foggy and/or dark I definitely have time to fiddle with a touch field to find the fog lights. After years of driving Seat and Cupra this new control concept turned me off completely and when my lease is up I'll move on to another brand.
You can controll the heated seats by taping the climate slider on your side with 2 (spread out) fingers. This way you dont have to enther the menu, its a shortcut
If VW doesn't want this to be considered a mini-van then explain the rear sliding doors 😂 Very neat car overall, I can see this being successful in a lot of markets.
Very fun and practical car! The ID line-up, with the upcoming cars like the ID.2, will place VW in a very nice spot for the future. btw... Having to press two buttons to get heated seats. Such an annoyance. (Crying in a 2001 car without ac or any tech at all)
You actually can turn on the heated seats without using the screen: just tap both temp up and down surfaces at the same time (2 fingers) and it will turn on. Nice quirk and feature!
I love it!! 💕 I will consider it as a replacement for my current Pilot next year. I just love the way VW does retro modern designs. When I see bugs today they still feel modern even after being discontinued for years…
“I’m going to show you only my favorite quirks and features since I already reviewed this van.”
*proceeds to show us the entire thing
I love Doug
I mean, we'd be concerned for his health if he didn't go full Q&F mode.
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@@richardmiller6422 Nah, that's just how Doug works. He does this every time he has to make separate studio and drive review videos as a refresher.
16 minutes of quirks and features
5 minutes of driving
no complaints
priceless
Wait tell the North American version doug will view that too
I saw this at the LA Auto Show. This thing is going to sell like mad. It's larger than it looks, has a enormous amount of room inside, and looks cool. It's a combo VW Bus and Eurovan.
It also suffers from some serious issue, biggest one for me would be the inability to properly heat the rear area when temperatures go below freezing.
You're very optimistic about the US auto market. All minivans are better at moving people and cargo, but Americans keep buying 3-row SUVs.
Got to see the pre-production one at the Peterson and was surprised by how large it was. Looks awesome af tho I'm sure it'll move units.
@@joshua.harazin The Buzz will sell itself simply because of the novelty factor. Similar to the New Beetle.
The one you saw was the European only short wheelbase. The US version is actually going to be longer.
Honestly, the greatest thing about the removable center console, is the ability to pull it out and vacuum between the seats. Any vehicle owner knows the frustration of that microscopic gap between that seats that is virtually impossible to get as clean as you'd like. I honestly think this thing is great. As a parent, I would think about getting one if the price range is where you estimate.
if the price range is where you estimate.
lol
There’s actually a shortcut for the heated seats. Press both the hot and cold climate slider at the same time and it will turn on, adjust the level, or turn off the heated seats
that requires me reading the manual sir which i refuse, i'm just gonna complain!!
@@myemailiscool in an updated version of vws infotainment (found in the new id7, which will also make it to other vw models in the near future), the car will teach you new ways to use shortcuts over time, so you dont have to dig through the manual
and you could always say "hello ID, my bum is cold!"
@@nickbien or they could stop the cost cutting and make high quality vehicles again.
I don't get this complaining about the climate controls anyway, mine are set on auto, that is how they stay except for defog and changing the temperature maybe 1 or 2 degrees. Easy access, i.e. a button, for seat heater is a good idea, though
@@macaalf8219 I have the new golf gti and I literally don’t mind it at all.
Too bad the US market isn’t getting the cargo version of this. I would absolutely love to convert one into a mobile detailing rig! Would be totally awesome!
I dunno, it might become an aftermarket thing where you could convert it into a cargo version ?
How easy is it just to remove the seats?
@@ttjoseph1 maybe he doesn't want the windows?
The cargo one is cool, however its £48,000!! So a very expensive work van!
Looks Ghey
I really think the cargo version would take off in North America, especially if there are savings from stripping out the interior. The fun character of the car would be great branding for your business and its the perfect size for working in and around cities and large towns. Mobile bike repair? Cupcake delivery? Lots of potential I would bet.
Unluckily, we can't ever get practical use vehicles here, only things that are large and obvious flexes of wealth. I sincerely think Doug low-balled the price, there's no way the base isn't like $50k and it'll probably max at like $70k if I had to guess based on our market
American size pizzas
I was more so thinking that this version would sell amazingly in the us because of the huge burst of popularity of van life as well. That’s basically a clean slate for anyone to convert the van into a home
@@VIRIS2 Yeah I could see that if it dropped at a lower price point then it could be popular among people with alternative lifestyles like that. It's a shame that it would likely be too small of a market just compared to people who only want a crossover/SUV style vehicle. Like even though it could be a burgeoning market, it's way overshadowed by the massive market we have for large "family" vehicles
I think a lot of mom's will buy these because they are so much less blah, yuck compared to average mini-vans. They can try to be the cool mom.
I love how Doug said this was mainly going to be a driving review, but he still ended up doing a full walkthrough
Yes. Doug Demuro nailed it big time.
he can't help himself 😆
D'oh!
because it is a boring car to drive
Odd he doesn't mention the windows don't open... :(
If VW had asked Doug what his dream vehicle is this is exactly what he would have described.
Same
Cool van I love the ID Buzz though not everything is set in ston when it comes to power traon, ptiving. Market position, and other info I think it's cool but for now, it's a misterz.
Maybe a lil faster but yeah
Don’t forget the land rover badge
@@jordinner Cool
My family had a bus when I was a kid and outside of the fact that even big rigs passed us going up hills, the bus was awesome. This Buzz brings back good childhood memories and, yes, I want one!
Slow as molasses ?
Stop every 200 miles to charge for an hour .
I'll take the molasses
My complaint with the slider controls is that both volume and temperature are things that typically require very small adjustments. A quick 1-2 button tap to move volume from 8-10 or 14-15 on the volume or 70-72 degrees is normal. Sliding/swiping is great for a large changes which don't typically take place here. Not exactly changing the temp from 60-85 and even if your jam comes on and you want to crank the volume a simple knob is still probably a better option.
Tapping buttons for radio volume is a bit annoying too. I really want a knob just for radio.
Didn't Doug used to complain about siiders??
Now he likes them??
You can tap these too to change in increments. Works as you expect.
@@D-Rockkhe was weirdly positive about a lot of stuff he is usually negative about. That said he generally is kind when automakers do something different, so idk.
@@D-Rockk He has been payed off by Slider Corp LLC.
The ID Buzz (in both family and cargo versions) is starting to become somewhat common here in Gothenburg, Sweden. Had a test drive last December and really liked it!
"is starting to become..."
@@zoltore23 I have seen two in the last week here in the U.K. I think it indicates that customer orders are now turning into deliveries.
My big question is have there been complaints on the infotainment software. Since the I.D.4 was released, there has been huge issues with it, and I presume that this is pretty much the same package given the chassis.
@@zoltore23 become menacingly epic?
@@wolfman9999999 ID.4 has only 107bhp imo.
After looking at the VW Id Buzz, Whoever designed the 1989-1995 Mazda MPV should be given a medal. 7 passenger ? 176 inches long? Genius. My favourite feature of the VW van here is the capacity for sleeping in the back.
I love that Doug acquired every shirt he owns when he lived in DC and has not bought a single article of clothing since
It didn't even occur to me that that was a 9:30 Club shirt although I haven't been there in 20 years.
Hey its working out pretty well for him. His wardrobe hasn't seemed to hurt his popularity at all
@@JJ_5289 agree.
I've also noticed he has a couple of New Zealand shirts, such as his Shotover Jet shirt and his blue shirt
He’s a true car guy. Doesn’t care about clothes one bit.
Now if you can actually buy it in the US without ridiculous markup or 6+ months waitlist it’ll be absolutely stellar
I was thinking the same thing when Doug was talking about pricing. The hype surrounding this as well as dealer price-gouging…you’d be lucky to buy one of these for under $60K.
@@simonburkeisable It's not only VW, it's common for European manufacturers to release their vehicles to European markets months or 1-2 years prior. It's always been like this for years.
This is VW. Give it a year or three.
Putting the sliding door buttons in a center location, charge ports in the doors, gauge cluster on the column, makes dashboard design a lot easier for when you have markets with right hand steering. Less changes they have to make to dash design, the less expensive it'll be. Clever.
Watching Doug's videos makes me happier than any antidepressants ever have.
I'm not a car guy, but Doug could talk about anything and his infectious passion would make it seem utterly fascinating.
Yep
Lol
Who the hell cares. VW wants to know, would you part with $50k ($60k with options!) to buy this cheap, low-rent POS filled with hard plastics from top to bottom? I sure as HELL WOULD NOT.
You need Jesus not Doug and I'm not even that religious.
@@jp23x I'm not a worshipper. I'm an admirer of people and things I appreciate.
Borrowed our demo Cargo from work for the weekend to get rid of some crap after christmas and fell completely in love with it. The turning radius, low center of gravity and general driving position made it surprisingly nimble. A great car to drive and without a doubt my favorite in the MEB-family. The Enyaq is nice but I'd rather have the Buzz, easy. I think this will get insanely popular.
Seeing both about, the Enyaq looks to be ridiculously large for a car. The ID Buzz looks to be small and cute for a van.
Whoever decided that a mini van should have white cloth seats doesn't know the target demographic of a mini van.
@@TheAngryAustrian Oh thats damn true. White interiors should not be standard, ever.
typically I'm a proponent of gas and diesel vehicles, especially older model cars without the ipad infotainment system and with good old buttons and dials. But I gotta say... This car is very cute, and I could get over the fact it's electric and has an ipad installed in the center. Well done VW, well done.
This will be a raging success. Am looking forward to the day when other manufacturers catch up and offer EVs in shapes other than variation of egg.
No sunroof?
I mean van is all about interior space right? What has more space than a rounded rectangular prism / egg? That's why buses are square AF
Hopefully not. Or rational thinking people, who matter, will have to deal with more mental patients.
Hey, Mr IQ Compromised, climate change is not only not an existential threat,m it's the best money making scam geared to the least intelligent people on the planet. Good thing that people like you have GPS to help you get home every night.
Already seen a few of these going around here. There's something nice about it, unique and modern but still fit into regular traffic. If you don't know waht it is you don't even notice but if you can still spot even a in a big traffic jam. Kinda like the Honda E in this regard, we need more stuff like this.
That looks like a very expensive windshield to replace.
Maybe the Valliant should get one for their players ;-)
Car manufacturers are making odd shaped glass so you have to buy OEM as it makes it harder for 3rd party to replicate.
That’s why you keep you insurance deductible under $200
If you are worried about it, you can put a protective film on it.
50k+ German electric vehicle yes parts will be expensive TayTay
Love this so much. I'm a single, childless, adult. I drive a minivan because it's incredible. Room for everyone and everything. Great at hauling cargo, pets, or projects. It's super comfortable on long and short drives, easy to maintain, good on gas, and... Boring to drive and look at. The bigger HP version of this is going to be a game changer and I can't wait to see it!
I love it too. Looks very practical and I like the looks too. $50K+ for the AWD version is a bit on the expensive side, but not unexpected for an EV with this range and size.
@@whoknows8678 he's taking about his minivan.. Not this one.
Soy boy?)
I completely agree. I have kids that are almost adults now and I really miss my minivan. Now that I can get any vehicle I want...I can't wait to get another minivan.
@@mrrakalanov Lemme guess, you believe your personality is your vehicle so you have to overcompensate and buy a loud and large stupid vehicle because you're such a boring, shallow and dull person? Typical of people who say things like "soy boy".
When I drove it, I thought that it felt more like a regular car than a van and I had no problem with visibility as such. You get a very good feeling of its dimensions on the road pretty quickly. Only thing I really missed is the lack of the variable architecture for seats an tables you get from the T7.
Christoph Sagkob, apparently this SUV from VW looked like it came straight from LA RUSH.
'a good felling' - Lumberjack stylee?
After market table for second row would be nice
It lacks operable windows! This will DRAIN the battery life relying on A/C only in an electric car.
Proof??
Please do not ever change - Doug ! One of the greatest channels on the air waves !!
The sliders are better than touch up or down buttons but for volume & temperature setting nothing beats a dial. A dial can be easily found without looking, it can be adjusted very granular or very broadly quick. I just got a new car and it has dials for volume and the dual zone temperature control. It has physical buttons for heated seats, front demist, rear demist auto, recir & on/off. In the infotainment system there's a truckload of other settings for climate you can adjust but the basic everyday ones that you want often are buttons. I think it's perfect mix, it's quite minimalist but still very functional.
The VW touch sensitive controls are atrocious, and I’m not even mentioning the touch sensitive buttons on the steering wheel which are too easy to accidentally actuate. I don’t think there’s a single reviewer that has anything positive to say about them.
A two step process involving the screen to turn on the seat or steering wheel heaters is another needless annoyance. I can turn on both of mine without looking.
This is probably going to be my first EV, love the style and it just checks all the boxes. Great video!
Apart from being an EV it's pretty much like Meteis which Doug hated. A typical European shuttle bus.
How about a Chrysler Pacifica Pinnacle? Doug love that....
A touchy touch screen with THE SLALS.
JoJ
It's Swaggin'! Swaggin'! Swaggin'! SwawS!
60 billion years ago
And now it's time to give a BugScore. 😂
Thank you, cs188!
This car's design is just brilliant - it brings about a sense of fun and whimsy that's severely lacking in the family-hauler space today. So many of them are incredibly surgical and spiritless, and are entirely uninspiring to see on the road. But this? I know I'll get a smile on my face whenever I see one driving past :)
(Now I just hope they're reliable enough to last)
It's electric, by default already more reliable than any ICE car other than Toyota
Would look perfect next to the Honda E
@@cenciende9401 wouldn't say that quick
its a disappointment from the concept ... it needs a sunroof
@@cenciende9401 and only has 117bhp.
16:00 is it possible these “diamonds” are actually a digitized version of a honeycomb? Ya know, since it’s a “Buzz”
Doug too ehdnfufiebdifi to notice
Interesting thought; I never thought about that. But I was thinking that the Hyundai Ioniq cars have their square pixels, and VW (at least the Buzz) have their diamonds.
I've been waiting for the ID Buzz to hit the market for years, kind of wondering whether or not it actually would. Nice to see it on the road. I hope, when it finally makes it to the U.S. market, it isn't priced like other EVs, i.e. entirely unaffordable for 98% of people. We'll see. Also, given Doug's size, it looks pretty roomy in there. Plenty of headroom and legroom for taller people. Pretty cool.
When do you think it will be available?
I drive nothing but mini vans and I’m kinda done with Honda.
@@pasofino9583 - I've heard it'll hit the U.S. market sometime next year, but nothing definite. VW doesn't seem to have an exact time, as far as I can tell. Just have to wait and see.
@@meadmaker4525 I’ve been staring at that VW California for years, I’d love to see this van in the Americas.
@@pasofino9583 I work at vw ore orders start in the fall and will be available for the 2024 model year
@@thenotoriousjoey9956 hell yeah!
Thanks!
Some extras for Climate:
Heated seats turn on if you use two fingers to tap on the heatsliders
Also if you dont like to slide you can just tap it.
I hope the US long wheelbase version comes with windows that can roll down in the 2nd row sliding doors. It would also be nice if they could make the 2nd row seats removable (since I doubt they can make them fold into the floor like the Chrysler Stow-n-go), and the 3rd row fold into the floor, like all the other minivans have had for the last 10+ years.
Europe is getting the long wheelbase version too. What Doug is saying is misleading.
The long wheelbase may be the only one we get.
It also needs ceiling air vents for rear seat passengers (or else everyone’s kids will throw up in the back)
This definitely isn't being marketed as a family vehicle, I appreciate North American enthusiasm about putting kids in the back like you bought the bus in 1985 for 200 bucks as a daily driver. This is meant to lean towards panel vans, work vans or outdoor staycations 😂
I operate a funeral home and this car would be perfect for us as as a "removal car" if the seats would come out. All the european reviews i've seen said they won't, too bad.
9:43 I have used these in a few cars for me it never seems tk regisyer my touch and then that area gets so dirty so quick. Its easier, simpler and better to kust have a knob
Doug is so Amp'ed for this one you can tell. I dig the passion this man has for his craft
And to keep it going for so long with the same undwindled energy is impressive. Not even the LA Beast has this level of consistency
@@concorde__ I don't think it's that much of an effort for him. I mean, it probably is with all the travel he does, but he's just lucky enough
to be a very energetic guy who's doing exactly what he wants to do.
He's just the type of guy that's more interested on a quirky van than a regular supercar
@@claudiobizama5603 He should have loved Metris then. It's the same thing: a eurovan shuttle by his standards.
Such a shame we won’t get the short wheelbase in the US, I’d definitely consider it
For real....I agree. A short wheel base is nice in crowded city parking....not everyone has space for an Escalade length vehicle in their garage. America doesn't always have to mean bigger.
I could see a lot of former Honda Element owners who want to go electric and can afford it going for a short wheelbase model. Too bad it won't be offered that way in North America. The die hard Honda Element folks seem to love the size, versatility, and funkiness of their vehicles still to this day.
You should reconsider given the US version is still going be very small overall, especially compared to many other vehicles.
Hey! Rational thinkers don't want EV's, which are marketed to numbheads who think that "climate change" is real, much less than an existential threat. Congrats on adding your DNA to the lower form of evolution, i.e ,,,, the sheep.
This thing looks like it’s going to be awesome. Such a shame we only get the LWB here in the US though. Would be nicer for those of us without kids that just want a quirky runabout with utility space.
Americans want smaller vehicles? Hahaha, what a silly idea!
Seriously though, we need smaller vehicles.
@@turbo_marc I’m not saying the long wheel base version won’t do well for the people with kids and such but not only does it physically look weird being too long compared to the short wheelbase van it’s also going to add a lot of complexity to the rear of the vehicle along with weight. Two things nobody wants in an EV meant to be used for some utility as well as be efficient. And of course it will be far more expensive because that’s what we need more expensive basic economic transportation, which is what the Volkswagen bus was always meant to be.
I will have to admit, I saw a euro spec version of the ID Buzz running around the village of Woodstock, NY back in April of this year. Somehow someone was able to get one ahead of time. 🤷♂️
@@mikek.4211 I happen to live right by Woodstock NY. I’ll have to do some snooping around town and see if it’s a local. Thanks for the info!
I grew up in the Beetle and as a child, I really liked this car and the van. They'll always be nostalgic whenever I see or hear the engine of one. The uncomfortable seats, the lack of air conditioning and radio. Our Beetle had no radio in it. The Las Vegas Summers made this almost impossible to be in it for long periods of time. But the trips and memories it made. It's nice to see a modern version of the bus. It'll be cool to see Volkswagen bring back the Beetle in a similar way.
Hey Ho! I also grew up with the Beetle, Bus, and the "Thing"". The VWs were a mechanical horror show; the bus would do 10mph up a SMALL hill. But hey, memories. And YES, a circa 1950-1960 Beetle with the STAND OUT black steering wheel, silver horn ring AND the Wolfsburg crest in the center{ for all you nanny state lovers-- the airbag can go into the seat belt webbing} in FULL ELECTRICK style. The conversion VWs have MUCH improved handling, ride SPEED, over the 'neo lawn mower engine' of the originals.
The pause and play button for the brake and accelerator petals look like a really stupid idea… That’s cute for about two seconds… Someone should’ve next it. But the real concern is you got that metal which could be slippery unless your foot is on the edge or in the center. So of course I would have to try it out… But it seems like a dopey decision.
Looks like a futuristic paddy wagon.*
*Damn, that’s offensive.
My parents in New Mexico had an original style Beetle with AC in the 80's. It worked well. Of course it was aftermarket, and similar aftermarket ones are still available today to fit into your now very expensive original Beetle.
This is a retro design done right! usually I don't like electric vehicles, or the split A-pillar, but here it actually looks good and modern, while still being so close to the original that non car people could even mistake it for the original sometimes. Somehow it also is a minivan without being a minivan. And its made for camping with the cargo floor option and the removable center console. only downside I see so far is the tachometer does not have the overhang above it like most do, might reflect the sun in bad ways, but not sure. Otherwise great van!
I completely disagree, starting with that monstrosity of a screen in the middle of the dashboard. How can you even call it a "retro" design when the interior looks nothing like the original? Neither does the exterior, for that matter, with the most recognizable, iconic part about the original vehicle (the round headlights) being completely absent from this design.
This looks more like a generic minivan to me. The original concept wasn't perfect, but it still manages to pull it off better than this production version.
If that's an issue for you, I imagine it would be very easy to make your own :)
@@rars0n you are objectively wrong 😜
I don't get how this is "retro" in any sense. Other than the dipping in front color scheme this has no stying elements that harkens to the original.
It’s swaggin, Swaggin, Swaggin
Swas
in the richer parts of Copenhagen these are selling like wow.
especially as fleets
asked my local vw dealer and the back orders were crazy
Being a contractor here it is THE VAN to have it seems
@japanwatchconnection
starts at 73000$
ouch
64k € for the Van and 54k € for the Cargo here in Germany. Even with some subsidies from the state that price is way too steep for most people.
yeah, it's a ripoff for the range
Most people are not meant to have cars under commie green new deal in Europe. I hope you vote for AfD. Otherwise don't complain about car prices in Europe.
That's pretty typical pricing for electric vehicles, particularly larger ones like this
Well the T5/6/U were always the same and still sell like crazy.
@@jedrzejgorski5437 stop oxygen in lungs
I own a 2003 Eurovan Camper, bought it after I heard it was the last year model. Sold my 1999 to get it. I love the look of the Buzz and I’m super happy the extended wheel base is coming with AWD. I’ll be waiting for a camper version in I guess 2029 or so with double the range. 270 miles won’t cut it for me. Hopefully battery technology will have improved and they fix this horrid range.
I remember when VW released a concept nearly identical to that, probably close to 20 years ago. But it had the 3.2 ltr V6 out of the golf R32.
They used those motors in the conventional bus, I think the T5 or T6 had them. A friend had one of those, it was absolutely incredible, at least back then.
@@kekelapp0r correct it was the t5 transporter/caravelle/multivan it was cool in concept but in reality the diesels were a better fit because of the torque. It felt slower because of the weight of the vans and lack of torque being a petrol
Beautiful van. Most of the quirks are also available on my 2007 VW Touran.
I wish North America would also get the short wheel base version. For my family's needs, the only thing the third row would accomplish is to add unnecessary weight. My favorite thing about the Atlas Cross Sport is that the third row just doesn't exist, which results in more room in the second row and it has a _HUGE_ space for the trunk! In fact, that omission of the third row is why I chose the Atlas Cross Sport in the end. I hope the ID Buzz will allow people to not only remove the third row seats, but also to place a sort of board over the area where the third row seat connection area is, thus allowing for a flat cargo area.
You can easily take out the third row with two levers, the seats even got handles for this!
This is coming to Australia in 2025 and I think it will be a massive hit. The trade version will also be very popular due to rising fuel costs and building supply costs.
Finally! I've seen about 3 of these so far on the Autobahn but with VW License Plates but they look even better in Person and i was waiting for Doug telling me all about the Quirks and Features as well as his Opinion on how these drive.
Fact is, they will sell like Beer in a Bavarian Biergarten, gonna be curious to see if they are gonna be marked up in the USA
Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
Sehe hier in Dortmund einige davon rumdüsen und sie sind einfach nur grandios!! Jeder grinst, jeder freut sich, die Fahrer sind glücklich...tolles Auto!!
There are two of them in the street where I live in Germany and they are orange and blue :D
I’ve seen them in the UK, the front certainly looks quite cool
I find them really expensive for what they are. I dont think they are going to sell that well outside Germany/France
10:36 - Somewhere in the comments I’m sure someone beat me to it but you can turn on heated seats in ONE step 10:36 by pressing/touching both hot/cold temp selectors simultaneously on the respective side for whichever seat you want to turn on. This is how you do it in the ID.4 so I’m sure it’s the same.
They're starting to pop up everywhere here in Italy and they look soooo nice. I kinda want one for myself!
I'd wait for the refresh dual motor gtx long wheelbase in europe. The display and interior will be closer to id7 spec.
@@JohnnyZenith Of course it depends on your needs but it'd be pretty impractical tbh. The regular model is over 4.7 meters in length, which is already above average. The L2 model will go above 5 meters and it's gonna be a nightmare to park or maneuver. Plus it's already an expensive vehicle, we're talking 66 to 74k EUR (72 to 83k USD)
This is so cool to see, also the picture you included from the cargo version, the number plate is from the city where I live. I had a temporary job at the Volkswagen Factory (Yes, Hannover is the city where the Transporters, Multivans and other vans are built, including the ID BUZZ!). My job was to inspect the bumpers before being assembled on the vans on the assembly line. ID Buzz, T6 and T7 Transporters. I remember seeing them going slowly on the assembly line and it was cool to see it every day.
Go tell them we want rear windows that open. Take them off the Multivan if needed!
Looks Ghey
The prices in Germany start at 65k€ - there art stille some additional packages and features availabe, that can bring the Buzz over 80k€...
I’ve been waiting for this vid for a while. Can’t wait to watch it.
The 2-tone paint, and the 2-tone interior, greatly add to its stylishness. It would be great if the buyer could opt for many, many possible 2-tones, combining colors as he individually chose. If this van were gray inside and out, it would be nothing.
There is a nice one near me which is in an ivory white. I think it might be matt over gloss, all a single colour though. Looks great!
“Ok I’m gonna floor it here….Not Fast!” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The Jokeswagen DIC Fuzz.
"The van I've seen in years."--Doug DeSmearo.
I hope they come out with a pop top version eventually
Nope, that'll be ICE T7 California sharing platform with T7 Caravelle, T7 Transporter and a forthcoming Ford Transit Custom. This is a non commercial platform and that panel van version is a joke.
Probably not. Engineers only design what the doofuses in marketing tell them to make.
Don’t lie, there will be a California version of this too.
BUZZ KILL
The fact that the windshield is so far away from the driver is disappointing.
Yes, safety.
But that's what I loved about the Bus! The forward control, sitting over the front wheels, up front driving experience
Appreciate the review, Doug! Hope this sells well in the States so that we can finally get a slice of what VW offers Europe with the California. Given the uptick in sprintervan sales and campervan rentals, how can VW not want to sell vans for road trips and camping?
Really wish the U.S. would get the short wheelbase version as well -- would make the perfect cab.
For the wireless charging pad, I wonder if you'll get an alert if you forget your phone on the charging pad. My 2023 Kia Sportage gives you an alert/alarm on your gauge cluster when you forget your phone in the charging pad charging pad.
Now THIS is what I want to drive to my bottom surg
The longer wheel base version is actually confirmed with a 340 horsepower 4WD and 85 kwh battery with 500km range. I assume this will also be the version for the US. Unfortunately, it is still based on the old platform as the id.7 (on the new platform) offers 700km of range with the same length and battery size. Btw, even the European short version will get 300 horsepower 4WD, they are already selling it.
The outside scenery while driving is soo beautiful
Saw the previous buzz video. Cool that you finally get to drive it. It just seems fun to drive. Like emotion factor on 100. Just a cute quirky vehicle. Nice job VW.
The VW IDR BUZZ has $350k price tag.
I wish it were flatter in the front, like the original VW bus. I'm not a big fan of how the front protrudes outward. I really want to love this thing though.
Right. With the original, you could look straight down and see the street. I would love that viewpoint, but I guess safety wise, it would be disastrous during a crash.
Yeah but they literally can’t do that anymore because of safety regulations they tried to still get the same kind of look by moving the front window father away
I think that thing looks cool and all! But to make it more adorable VW should have rounded the headlights! That would have been cooler!
My dad's 1973 VW Kombi bus was 8 inches shorter and 10 inches narrower than this SWB Buzz and yet it had three rows of seats for up to 8 people. Obviously, it had a far more spartan interior with almost no features, but a lot of quirks.
And no crash zone because you were sitting on the front axle.
Volvo had a safety car with see-through A-pillars a few years ago. They made it that way by using Eiffel style criss cross stiffening struts between two thin verticals.Then it was covered with a piece of glass on the outside. I guess it either didn't work as well as expected, or was too expensive to implement. The Buzz could use something like that design I'm thinking.
expensive.....you could make a pilliar as thin as a stick and still be safe....but would be very pricey
@@fortheloveofnoise Agree, but just now realized that a part like that might be a candidate for 3d printing someday. That seems to be getting cheaper and better every day.
The Fard Factor on this vehicle is very good!!
I love gimmicky stuff and those pedals are a HIT!!! If I remember correctly there was a Dodge concept pickup with billet pedals GO/WHOA.
Ive waited for the Buzz & this video for so long!
As much as I’d want to daily a sports car, a tuned up van with an interesting engine/motor would be so fun. Nothing crazy just 300hp/300ftlbs at the wheels for the top trim with a balanced chassis and we’ll tuned suspension it’d be a hit. A lot of enthusiast have their dream car they tuck away for special occasions but a lot of us just want something we can also drive everyday and still have fun. Fun, practicality, and comfort shouldn’t be 50k+. These should be the standard for modern cars.
Nice to see Doug can still get it up for a quirky car
His voice even went lighter.
I would like to buy some land from Mars.
But can I give my stuff to driver next to me
Cs188 reference?
Yikes… those minivan comparison ratings at the end. I do like the cool factor of this vehicle, but here are real uses for my minivan that I can’t see this delivering on: take six kids and gear to a tournament on Saturday, then take all the seats out and grab 10’ lumber on Sunday (that’s what the removable console does in the Odyssey) as well as a few sheets of plywood.
Rational people want physical knobs and buttons. Touch controls are an anti-feature.
A note regarding cup holders, they're far less common here in Europe because we don't have the same Starbucks culture as americans. It's far more common to see 0.5 liter bottles for drinks and, specifically here in Italy, we tend to get an espresso at the bar instead of carrying around large cups of coffee. I have never used the cup holders in my car, I stick a bottle in my door pocket and I'm good to go. Cup holders are actually chewing-gum holders.
Starbucks culture? What the fuck is that. Also cup holders are so useful for everything besides drinks. Do you not carry a water bottle with you? Very useful car feature. Don't act so snobby. Used all around the world.
if you kived in a hot climate you would use cup holders....also, i don't ever drink coffee, but i always have some sort of drink in my cup holder
Doug already quashed that argument while reviewing Metris which he hated so much but somehow he loves Buzz which is the same thing. Namely he does not care about what's compact vans like in Europe because he's benchmarking reviewed cars against what available in the US. Did he apply the same standards to Buzz which he had to Metris, he would find Buzz an utter crap. To start with rear seats which do not fold down into the floor, which he lambasted so much. He's a hypocrite.
@@fortheloveofnoise what do you mean with the temperatures? What I’m saying is that cups aren’t part of our culture, at least in Italy. If you want water, it comes in a bottle - cup holders are too shallow for that. It’s not like cups don’t exist, but they’re rare. This is probably why Starbucks never took off, it has like 10 locations and most of them are inside airports
@@svartdraken Why would a cup holder be "too shallow" for a water bottle?
Love the buzz. I was seeing a few on the Autobahn already and I think they’re practical and just brighten one’s day.
The problem with the sliders is: Europeans want haptic feel. The complaint was, that vw tries to save money at the wrong places by going with all these capacitive touch buttons. :)
I was really hoping they were releasing this in the US this year. I'm so ready to trade in my VW Atlas for this!
"Everyone's complaining about them, and I don't understand why."
It's pretty easy, actually. Sure, I could sit there and slide my finger back and forth over and over again to change the temperature from 84F to 68F, or I could instantly go from full hot to full cold (or anywhere in between) with a single turn of a knob. Just because the touch sensors "work" doesn't mean it's a logical, convenient way to control such features.
With touch-sensitive controls, you're forced to look at the screen to even know whether or not they're even registering your input, let alone doing exactly what you want them to. And looking at a raw number on a screen isn't as intuitive as glancing at a fixed knob to see what position it's in. In other words, I know immediately how warm the air is coming out of my vents when I see the knob is set to 11 o'clock. It's also infinitely easier for me to turn it from 11 to 12 o'clock than it is to slide my finger such a small, precise amount.
There are good reasons why many race cars still use analog gauges. One of them is that you can clock the gauges so that when they're in their normal operating range, the needle is oriented at 12 o'clock, making it super easy to instantly determine any deviation from the norm on any given gauge. Is it absolutely necessary to use analog gauges for everything? No. Is it absolutely crucial to clock the gauges to make the needles all line up? No. But it works that much better than just sticking a gauge in the dash haphazardly or shoving a number onto a screen somewhere. It makes little sense not to do it that way when there's no downside to doing it that way.
That's the problem with touch controls, especially for specific functions like climate control: there's no downside to just using a couple knobs and buttons. My guess is that these don't bother you so much because you're not forced to actually use them on a daily basis.
"I think most rational people will have no problem."
And you'd be wrong about that. VW is already moving back to physical buttons on their steering wheels based on... wait for it... customer feedback. The vast majority of drivers hate these things because they're less intuitive and less easy to use. Imagine going back to pushbutton transmissions, with a single button for P, R, N, D, and L, but instead of having actual push buttons, they're just capacitive touch buttons. Sure, it could work just fine. Does that mean car buyers should just shut up and accept it, or should they demand a return to sensible design? By your logic, it's the first one. There's nothing blatantly "wrong" about it so people should just stop being such complainers!
I remember a feature from the previous ID Buzz video that wasn't shown in this one: the flip-out trailer hitch! If VW doesn't even offer an optional hitch for the US version I'm sticking with my 2005 Chevy Astro. It's nearly identical in size to the short-wheelbase Buzz--especially the interior--and can tow up to 6000 pounds. Also has 280k original miles & still runs like a champ!
The ID BUZZ has 106bhp only.
Bro, CS188 made a YTP of your video lol😂.
Just bought one today, and super hyped that you're hyped too.
Came here from cs188
Same
Styling 9?!? Dougie D must be smokin the good stuff 😬
California baby
10:14 RE: Touch sliders
- what happens when you hop in the car in winter and want to turn up the heat? I assume you have to take your gloves/mittens off, first?
- if you’re sliding the temp down for the passenger and overshoot, are you going to suddenly crank the volume of your music/radio/directions to ear-splitting levels?
- how’s the tactility for operating them while keeping your eyes on the road?
- how easy is it to find them _without_ looking at the screen and _without_ accidentally tapping the screen and causing something unwanted to happen?
- do they provide _any_ upsides compared to a physical slider or knob?
Touch-sensitive controls that you might want to operate while driving might be a slight improvement over a touchscreen, depending on the details of implementation, but I don’t see how they’re _any_ improvement over physical controls-and they come with some significant downsides to offset those probably-non-existent upsides.
“Jokeswagen D I C Fuzz”
The cheapest ID Buzz in the UK is £59,000. So more like $69,000 plus some inflation.
Then let's talk about the awful range and efficiency.
So you can’t afford it.
@@kraenk12 it's a sub par electric vehicle that's catering to yuppies. I don't know about you, but I still like value for my money even when I can afford things.
Doug is really lazy with research and fact checking, if he can't do it himself he should hire someone. Sad to see a channel slowly decline like this.
This ID Buzz is going to be an interesting curiosity when it comes out, I like what I see, not really for me or for my needs, but it's very cool, hope it comes out in cool colors to add even more to the appeal of this van. Peace! 😁💛☮
The sliders aren’t a good idea because of 2 things: it requires you to look at the screen instead of the road to see the temperature and making fine adjustments can be more tedious or frustrating.
With buttons, you know the set temp and press the button accordingly to how much you want it to change, and you do all of this without needing to see what is going on.
This does not make any sense. You have to take your eyes off the road in ANY car if you want to see the temperature changing.
Just shows how impartial Doug is…
The sliders are tap or slide, either one.
@@gabriellundmark if you have physical knobs, it is easier to do and you don’t necessarily have to look at the same time as the adjusting.
@@Horizon301. if you want to see the temperature, you will have do look no matter what control you use. Until someone invents braille controls and you learn braille.
I like it, It'd be cool if they offer a panoramic roof option!
As someone driving a car with VWs current touch controls I can definitely say: The temperature and volume sliders are everything but intuitive when it's dark and you're focused on driving. It straight up sucks. In my Formentor they are also ridiculously unresponsive. Don't get me started on touch light controls. Yeah if it's foggy and/or dark I definitely have time to fiddle with a touch field to find the fog lights. After years of driving Seat and Cupra this new control concept turned me off completely and when my lease is up I'll move on to another brand.
You can controll the heated seats by taping the climate slider on your side with 2 (spread out) fingers. This way you dont have to enther the menu, its a shortcut
This is a vehicle. It's not a phone. It shouldn't need "clever shortcuts" to access what should be a simple press of a button.
@@jeffb.6642 Then it would have 50 buttons. Phones had buttons some time ago by the way
Gotta shout out Doug's 9:30 club shirt
Good on you Doug for calling out the people being overly aggressive about the touch climate control and back lighting.
If VW doesn't want this to be considered a mini-van then explain the rear sliding doors 😂
Very neat car overall, I can see this being successful in a lot of markets.
The aircooled busses had sliding doors
@@thetigertard not the split screen, the bay windows did tho
It's a van, not a minivan.
@@MrAronymous If its not a full size van, its a minivan. The original bus was technically a minivan but the term wasn't invented at the time.
@@vwwbeetle yeah the og splitty had those weird fridge doors but sliding doors on a vw bus is nothing new is what I was getting at
Very fun and practical car! The ID line-up, with the upcoming cars like the ID.2, will place VW in a very nice spot for the future. btw... Having to press two buttons to get heated seats. Such an annoyance. (Crying in a 2001 car without ac or any tech at all)
It's exactly as practical as Metris which Doug hated for being impractical trash compared with American minivans.
Their is a shortcut. Top comment says how
You actually can turn on the heated seats without using the screen: just tap both temp up and down surfaces at the same time (2 fingers) and it will turn on.
Nice quirk and feature!
I love it!! 💕 I will consider it as a replacement for my current Pilot next year. I just love the way VW does retro modern designs. When I see bugs today they still feel modern even after being discontinued for years…
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