Analyzing Evil: Syndrome From The Incredibles
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- Hello everyone and welcome to the one hundred forty-second episode of Analyzing Evil! Our feature character for this video is Syndrome from The Incredibles. I hope you enjoy, and thanks for watching. If you have any feedback or questions feel free to let me know below!
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Syndrome was SO fixated on the super part of superhero that he completely neglected the most important part: the hero part
EXACTLY!
Dude didn't even last a full minute as a superhero.
I wonder if this is why the movie often refers to them as “supers” rather than “superheroes”
to be fair, he didn't care
explains the villains@@RyanCoss
I love the symbolism of Syndrome being codenamed Kronos, the father of gods, being undone by his own creation, much like Kronos being killed by his own children.
I think only Zues did that, but I could be wrong.
@@Lutherstrode17492 Zues started the fight but after striking deep enough he freed his older brothers Hades and Poseidon who joined him in defeating Kronos.
@@Lutherstrode17492chronos dethroned and castrated his father and an oracle told him as u have done so too will your son grow up to overthrow u for crime begets crime. It was this prophecy that led chronos to swallow his children whole right after they were born
@@allenyork3239Zeus freed his brothers and sisters from his father’s stomach first then the war between the gods and titans occured
Also the old term for demigods or superpowered brings (in Greco-Roman mythology) is Heroes. And if Syndrome thinks of himself as Kronos then he’s two layers above all Heroes and even is above the gods
The tragic part of his character is how much he actually has and what he wastes it on. He has a private island, is extremely rich, super technology and is wickledly intelligent, but he WASTES all of this on the most petty and ultimately pointless plans ever. It is somewhat played for laughs, but when you think about it more its quite tragic.
He could have been a great hero in his own way if not for his obsession and hatred that fueled him
Hubris I believe they call it
He wastes all this technology for petty revenge on a guy who didn't care about him
Like most rich people in real life
Yea the movie definetly shows that he is gifted. Might not have traditional super strength, fly, or shoot ice but he could literally designed machines that could be used to kill superheroes.
His obsessions were his end
He's like Dr. Doofenshmirtz but more competent lol
There's something so chilling about how Syndrome wants to go beyond just killing superheroes and instead, gravitates towards destroying the very concept of a "super" by giving everyone powers.
His resentment had grown so far as to feel anger and jealousy towards the very concept of superheroism itself, like he was being excluded from some special club. He only saw the 'super' part rather than the 'hero' part, not considering the great responsibility that comes with it (which we see in his reckless charade near the end).
@@NovanByworks Hal From Megamind Has This Mentality As Well. When He Got Metromans Powers,He Only Thought Of The Idea Of Being A Superhero To Get The Girl Not To Save Or Protect The People Of Metropolis From Megamind But To Get A Girl Who Was Never Interested In Him To Begin With. When She Rejects Him He Turns Into A Bad Guy Simply Because He Wasn't Getting Any Head From The Hot Chick.
"And when everyone is super...no one will be"
My hero academia.
Syndrome’s biggest problem was his inability to let go of the past. He believed that Mr. Incredible’s rejection of his offer to be his sidekick vindicated his belief that his lack of superpowers prevented him from becoming a superhero, when, in truth, he was an impulsive kid, who was bound to get himself killed, due to this. He never tried to better himself or recognize his flaws, but chose to lash out at those that denied him what he felt he deserved.
You can say that for 90% of the sidekicks in superhero stories, what do they teach you? Ifnyou bother the superhero lon enough eventually he would take you in, sadly Mr Incredible'own prejudices against heroes without powers created a cruel villlain
Prejudices? He could have caused that boy to die if he did not try to get him out of there.
@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 he say that couldn't be a hero just because he didn't have powers
The whole point of the movie was an inability to let go of the past. Those supers wouldn’t have died had they been able to take off the mask and leave it off.
@@carsoncasmirri3874I wonder did syndrome study psychology? Cause he killed all those heroes knowing they were clinging to the past
The irony is that Syndrome actually did have a super power. He was super intelligent and manage to build advance technology at a very young age. Unfortunately he did never use his talent on doing good deed only using it for selfish reasons.
That’s the tragedy.he could have been the next generations newest superhero had he let go of the past
@@brendaspence1824or even just grown from it. Ok so he holds onto it but not as tightly and allowing the bitterness to feaster leading to his "when everyone is super no one is super" idea, but instead of focusing that wholly on his own gain and selfish egotism had instead actually followed through on that mantra. It wouldn't be the healthiest emotional state true but it would still make him a major figure and a heap of money while potentially removing the need for supers.
@@brendaspence1824Now that you've mentioned it, I wouldn't have minded seeing that outcome for Buddy. Syndrome is one of the faces of the next generation of heroes long forgotten of the days of Mr. Incredible, Elastigirl, and Frozone. Similar to The Boyz, the new generation of heroes could be much more commercialized than it was in Bob's era. As civilian life for him was dull and unfulfilling, Bob inevitably wants to get back into what his true passion is in being a superhero. But now Bob is passed his prime and is behind the times and ends up just getting in the way and embarrassing himself as a relic from the past who not only can't keep up with the new generation of heroes but even the lower rating new generation of villans get the best of him. Now, in order to save what little dignity his name has left and to reinvent his image Bob thinks to turn to none other than Buddy, the most famous and higest rating hero but now it's Buddy given Bob the cold shoulder
@00yiggdrasill00 not just that the end goal of his has some very messed up implications
@@themaddogofcrenshaw7367A mixed-blessing nightmare scenario of Syndrome _outcompeting_ supers and turning society against them is a glorious idea. John Sublime did it to Marvel's mutants, which was to me the coolest thing in turn-of-the-milennium comics.
Another detail that people never catch is during the “Fly home buddy, I work alone” scene, we see Bob confronting and dealing with Bomb Voyage, yet in Buddy’s perspective and flashback, we just see Mr. Incredible denying and turning him down in a freshly lit room for no good reason.
This really lets us know that Syndrome’s obsession with Mr. Incredible is so far off the deep end that he forgot why he liked and idolized Mr. Incredible in the first place, being a superhero.
Y hasta olvido que bob le salvo la vida a quitarle la bomba
Syndrome was likely a malignant narcissist. One minor slight was enough to make him change the entire course of his life, and in the flashback with Mr. Incredible he hyperfixates on being talked down to so hard that Bomb Voyage isn't even there.
That's what i thought. Often when we grow older, we understand the actions of the adults in our lives. You'd think with Buddy's intelligence he would have worked out by the time he became an adult that being a superhero sidekick as a child would be dangerous, but he instead focused on his hurt feelings.
That's another thing about toxic fans, they take everything very personal
I do think you missed a tiny point in the car conversation - Mr Incredible isn't frustrated at having to do that generally, it's that Buddy, by this point, is effectively stalking him and seemingly takes up a LOT of his time doing... not quite this sort of thing but verging on it. I always got the impression that this is not the first time Mr Incredible has had to let Buddy down, and he'd BEEN gentle every other time - but Buddy just ignored it until he ACTUALLY got into trouble.
That could be but I'm not so sure as he still couldn't remember the kids name so he really hasn't been paying attentions at all to Buddy. Also brushing buddy off isn't really the same as explaining the issues.
@@lightdarksoul2097I mean, Mr incredible doesn't really have an obligation to feed his habits or be his parent and explain himself. Plus, buddy actively interfered with an arrest of an explosive using villain for his own personal gain, so I don't blame Mr incredible for acting so coldly to him by the end of the past section of the movie. Buddy inadvertently put more people in danger and ultimately caused the incident that retired heros for almost good
@@lovemachine5151 I do have to wonder if the heroes were all that needed honestly since when they are gone nothing really changed and seemingly there were no more villains except for Syndrome and the Underminer
I respectfully disagree. I think you’re way off base with your interpretation of that scene @kamalasb7292 .
There’s no mention or any suggestions of stalking in that scene, Mr Incredible only mentions Buddy making him sign lots of autographs and taking pictures.
You’re taking quite a leap with saying that scene implied that Mr. Incredible was being stalked by him. At best, your assertion is a possibility only because he entered Mr Incredible’s vehicle without permission, which the scene seems to imply is the first instance of Buddy violating Mr Incredible’s space and privacy based on their exchange.
And Mr Incredible also apologized to Buddy or rather Syndrome later during their first encounter on the island, which would imply that he understood the way he interacted with Buddy as a kid in the past was wrong and a big mistake.
I'll have to agree with at @Getdaycornouttamyface here. It's an interesting theory, but when he's talking to Buddy in the car he only recognizes him from his fan club, which is a pretty appropriate place for Mr. Incredible to encounter his number one fan, not to mention that he has a hard time remembering his name initially. If he had been stalking him, I feel like his reaction to Buddy would have been way more severe than it already was. Instead, it was more like a "who are you? Oh yeah, that kid. Why the hell are you in my car?" type moment not an "oh my god this kid won't leave me alone, get away from me now you creep." moment. Again, interesting theory but I don't see any indicators that point to Buddy stalking him before this moment.
This was brought up to me a while back:
When Buddy was rejected, Mr. Incredible was dealing with a supervillain (one whom he seem to have past altercations), so he’s constantly moving his eyes between Buddy & Bomb-Boyage. Yet in Buddy’s “memory”, Mr. Incredible is posing, lording over him, even ending with a dismissive wave. None of that happen; heck Buddy just “forgets” that their was a villain in the same room, he evens ignores the damage he (intentionally) caused on the train bridge.
Y que si no fuera por Bob (Mr increíble) habría muerto
Fun fact: according to a behind the scenes segment on DVD, in an early draft of the movie Syndrome was supposed to be a minor villain who appeared and was destroyed at the beginning of the movie, but the staff adored the character and reworked the story so he could be the main villain in the final version of the movie.
“I am your number one fan” never got creepier. Syndrome/Buddy Pine shares similarities with Reverse-Flash, Annie Wilkes, and Gil Renard from The Fan (1996). They’re all obsessed with their idols to the point of nearly deifying them. When they get let down or their image of them shatters, that obsession turns into hatred. That hate fuels their motivation to destroy that image. They essentially fall in hate with the hero/protagonist.
what's funny with Syndrome is.. he still deifies him even while trying to kill him, he still has mad respect and idolization, hence why the very last hero he uses to improve the robot is his idol.
He's also similar to Stan from the Eminem song. He's basically Stan on steroids.
I thought reverse flash only turned that way because he saw the future and realized that he and Flash would be enemies
Geez, I can totally see Paul from Misery saying, "She's not affiliated with me!", if Annie was arrested instead.
Agree, @Crimson28.
In a way, with the rise of Internet culture, those characters were a crystal ball prediction/prophecy on toxic fandom.
That scene where Mr. Incredible is with the computer still gives me pure chills to this day. Mr. Incredible thinking that Syndrome was "just a kid", then he grows up, shows him he is pure evil and that he is directly a threat to him now. Masterful.
I mean….he WAS just a kid
Who most likely had mental issues that got brought out from that night with mr.incredible that nobody was able to help him cope with
Not saying this to blame it all on mr.incredible,he was doing the right thing keeping a kid from danger……but that bitterness went left unchecked with syndrome and it grew to the psycho we had years later
@@brendaspence1824 short version: the US's mental healthcare is a joke.
Syndrome has one of the best quotes on western animation I have ever seen.
"See? Now you respect me, because I am a threat."
"And when everyone is super, no one will be."
God, why don't they make western animation THIS GOOD anymore?
There have been plenty of great western animated movies! Puss and Boots 2, the Spiderverse films, Nimona, even that new TMNT film looks solid. Western animation is making a huge comeback rn
@@N_o196 Besides TMNT I'd say you're on point IMO! Western Animation of good quality is popping up in many places. It's just that when we say "It's not around anymore" or "It's not good" that just means the former dominant provider of the medium i.e. Disney/Pixar isn't making good animation anymore. However, that's just ONE studio and we can't act as if they have a monopoly on good quality animation because their competition is destroying them.
@@jainittai5104 for Pixar id agree, but honestly? Some modern Disney movies have been hitting as of late, Encanto was pretty good I'd say
But either way, I think we should be glad that Disney/Pixar isn't the only animation studio of quality anymore. If even Sony can put out bangers, that's only a good thing
@@N_o196 I agree Encanto was something special that I slept on way too hard!
@@N_o196Don't forget the Invincible cartoon.
How did Pixar follow up one of the greatest villain in animation history with one of the most forgettable in the sequel?
They forgot that Bob Odenkirk was playing the good guy and not the supervillain
@@philleotardo7016 Jonathan Banks actually voiced Rick Dicker in the sequel, you got Jimmy and Mike right there.
One simple reason: The first one had things called "love" and "passion". Second one was made under gyress, something to just make a gain and appease the people.
@@philleotardo7016 also, where’s your Analyzing Evil episode?
Second one wasn’t bad
Honestly, Syndrome may be the scariest of the Disney villains for the simple reason of his realism. The sort of Annie Wilkes dilemma of being liked so much that you gain creepy fans who would do anything for you until they get scorned.
I’d say Frollo is the most realistic Disney villain, but I know what you’re talking about.
@@MoltenMetal613both him and syndrome are probably the best villains given there’s actual people in the world who think like them
The thing about Buddy is that doesn't he seem to understand the life he had built for himself. He was super rich, a genius, he had a private island and a woman to himself. But his inability to let go is what tore all that apart. Not to mention the dozens of superheroes that were killed because of him, all because he wanted to play hero.
So he pretty much deserved his fate.
Always did
That is the only unrealistic part there. Most billionaires and politicians never face real consequences.
@@ZX-Gear That’s why it’s important for people to make noise about it.
Buddy Pine invaded his private space sneaking into his car. Yes, he was an annoyance, but Buddy went way too far by getting into the car, disrupting the crime scene and he made Bomb Voyage almost escape with robbing a bank by acting without awareness. This should be mentioned that Buddy was WAY out of line, and made things exceptionally dangerous, especially as his actions, led to other actions that essentially got ALL Superheroes barred.
Exactly, I can't get behind the idea of how Mr. Incredible should have been nicer when he's literally on the job fighting CRIME. Like, literal robbers with guns and a Frenchmen with explosions and shit. Any rational person on the job with the possibility to encounter these things or more would tell the kid to rightly fuck off and they don't owe him the time of day. If anyone is to blame, its the parents who didn't explain to him why stalking and invading an active crime in place is a bad idea. Mr. Incredible is not his dad, he has no obligation to teach him morals and values.
Buddy had such a warped way of handling things too, he thought just popping up saying “I’m your sidekick” and stating he knows all his moves would make him instantly get the job, he didn’t do anything to earn it
@@mrcritical6751and given how absolutely adamant Mr incredible is in that moment to work alone and never take sidekicks, something he only relents on years later when his own children are in direct danger to the point he's not even shown directly working with his girlfriend/future wife, there's likely a history there. While it's true buddy as a child would have little comprehension of adult emotions, he should have as he grew up.
It's definitely true that Syndrome really took what Mr Incredible said to heart, but it's also been twisted in his mind by his hatred. When you compare the actual scene of Mr Incredible telling him to go home or that he works alone(i forget which one) to the version he remembers, it seems much worse than the actual scene was.
He was a great villain, but I see this disturbing trend of people saying he was right. They legit think having your feelings hurt is a good reason to murder dozens of innocent people.
I’m pretty sure that vile straight up says his actions weren’t right. This was mostly him explaining how he got to being as bad as he ended up, not a he was right type of situation.
Let's be realistic, there's only one group who thinks this is normal and it's the gender Buddy belongs to. Because in America, they literally harm or kill people over hurt feelings all the time. I saw a news story just the other day of a man who beat a 59yo woman mercilessly because she didn't say good morning back to him. We have a population of very mentally unstable and unhinged men in the first world, just look at the femicide rate...
A lot of folks never get over rejection.
@@ShadowKroh Did I fucking say, "The Vile Eye said Syndrome was right?" Huh? Did I?
@@slashbash1347 No need to get so defensive. There was no specification of individual so the assumption would be it’s on the video at hand.
One of the best showcases how a fan can fall in the dark path
One of the most infamous demonstrations of this is Yolanda Saldivar. The Superfan turned Club President and killer of singer Selena Quintanilla.
Reminds me of Eminem Stan song
@@MrBrandonStaryepp
John lennon fan
@@sir_vaughn2018 facts
“AND when everyone’s super, No one will be.”
Awesome line, awesome villain
I think the reason why Syndrome was so fixated on Mr. Incredible is because he most likely grew up with a single mother, and saw Bob as a surrogate father. So, when Bob rejected him, not once but twice, he felt betrayal like no other, as if his father abandoned him a second time.
Nah he just a cartoon character he dont feel nothin
@@Cruckavens777Troll.
Fan Theory: Mr incredible is Syndrome 's father
Fatherless behavior
Yall be really reaching 😂
If things had went the other way he definitely could have been this universe's Batman. I think he had daddy issues at home that's why he looked up to Mr. Incredible so much. Even Mr. Incredible said I was wrong, and I shouldn't have treated you that way.
Yeah... Mr. Incredible definitely treated the kid poorly and there's no denying that. But at the same time, when he sent him back home in the back of a police car and called his mother, he had just gone through the stress of almost being responsible of the death of a civilian child. Those superheros still have plenty of human DNAs after all. It's hard to blame him for such a reaction in the heat of the moment. He just wanted to make sure the kid would never try something dangerous like that again for his own good. He wasn't antagonizing Buddy, he was legitimately worried for his well-being.
Nah Buddy would’ve 100% ended up like Homelander if he ever was given a chance even from the start
Take note the term, “Super,” was stated throughout the film. Not superhero
@@LonesomeDevil True. However, if Mr. Incredible had taken the time to explain to Buddy WHY he couldn’t be his sidekick, Buddy might have not gone down the path of evil. It’s understandable that Mr. Incredible wasn’t in a state to explain why Buddy couldn’t be his sidekick, due to needing to deal with a villain, but, afterwards, he could have talked to Buddy.
@@speedracer2008 I 100% agree with you. My comment wasn't about trying to argue against the points made in the video. I just thought it was a bit harsh against Bob. Like the comment I replied to stated, he acknowledged he was wrong, that he made a mistake. And even if it doesn't erase all the frustration Buddy felt towards him, I think painting Mr. Incredible as the indirect responsible for all the deaths Syndrome caused is really excessive.
I’m so glad you mentioned that Syndrome had a super power because it really doesn’t get talked about enough.
Syndrome is Pixar's best villain, hands down.
Also notice how when Syndrome flashes back to that moment, the scenery is entirely different where in his version it's just the two of them with Bob harshly brushing him off and turning his back to him when what we saw in the beginning was very different as then Buddy had interrupted Bob when he was in the middle of apprehending a dangerous criminal.
The tragedy as you said, also comes from how had he moved past his grudge or had Mr. Incredible been more patient with him when he was a child which shaped him negatively as well, Buddy really could have changed the world for the better in so many ways: He could have been like Winston in the second movie, or Tony Stark. I think though it also goes into how in some ways he also mirrors Mr. Incredible's own inability to move on from the past.
Syndrome is destined to be a villain because he was intrusive, obsessive, and self obsorbed with multiple complexes to begin with.
You really can't blame Mr. Incredible for Syndrome. All of the negativity and slights from Mr Incredible were way over imagind. Buddy made his own choices to hold onto the past and not let anything go. Buddy chose to murder dozens of superheroes just so he could get back at a man that he perceived to have wronged him. Back when he was a child!! He held onto something negative for a decade possibly longer! Buddy was is own making with his delusions of grandeur.
Isn't that what Vile said thou cause in the end while Mr. Incredible handled the situation poorly Buddy is ultimately his own person and the consequneces of his actions are his fault alone
@@odasengoku7314honestly did he even handle the situation poorly? Bob stated he’d been patient and nice to Buddy when he was bothering him at The Fanclub and went above what any normal person would expect from a celebrity to one of his fans. It’s only when Buddy got creepy and started stalking him he got aggressive and frustrated cause the kid was actively getting in the way of crime scenes, breaking into his property and refused to even listen to the man he supposedly wanted to work for
“And when everyone’s super, no one will be” this quote perfectly describes syndrome’s villany, a man that was rejected by his superhero idol, and then became so fixated on being super that he forgot to be a hero, it’s insane to have this good as a villain under the guise of a kid friendly superhero movie.
6:05 so glad to hear this point mentioned. He was very young when he invented those rocket boots and eventually was able to create those powerful droids in his adulthood. That’s why I think Syndrome was a super himself because of his insane level of intelligence.
Imagine the main antagonist being your number one fan.
Annie Wilks from Misery comes to mind
@@baeleef_👍💯
It’s quite terrifying that obsessive people like syndrome actually exist. Celebrities have met their end coming across a superfan.
@@griz312 celebrities are trash
Reverse Flash?
Basically the perfect definition of fan being a fanatic
Unexpected but such a welcomed surprise. Finally we get the best Pixar villain on the Analyzing Evil channel!
El mejor es watternoose
I know the whole “villain gets wronged by the hero and leads them to turn evil” trope has been done to death but Syndrome is one of the few villains to be the best example of this and stand the test of time. Great video
"When everyone is super, no one will be." Still one of the most (true) villainous lines I've ever heard.
I love this movie so much. The mystery of the weapon killing so many heroes and the secret Cronos code gave me chills as a kid. And the reveal is always so perfect.
There's a reason why people say... meeting your heroes/idols is a bad idea.
Only if you have an exaggerated lofty view of them and overlooking the fact they are human, with struggles/skeletons in the closet just like everyone else.
@@kaneki_ryuzaki3249bingo
“If everyone is super, no one will be.” Is such a sad and bitter quote.
Syndrome is such an awesome villain; thank you for making a video on him. 👍
would love for you to do Nate Jacobs from Euphoria, he is a complex character and really walks the line of born evil vs created evil.
i also find it very interesting how all of his traits are twisted versions of good traits
-being smart and strategic becomes manipulation
-drive becomes ruthlesness
-physical prowess becomes domination
on the surface all of his traits are considered "good" and are that of a succesful person but if these traits are possesed by the wrong person then you have someone like Nate.
Great suggestion
honestly nate is what happens when you quite literally grow up untouchable in life.
He is charming,good looking,physically intimidating,rich and a very smooth talker. nobody can stand up to him physically or in any other way, he will find your weak point and absolutely destroy you with it
Euphoria 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Based_Stuhlingerno matter what you think of the show, Nate Jacobs is still an interesting character study
@@jalenr.6542the stuff with his dad was so wild to me omfg
Syndrome was SO obsessed on the physical aspect of being super that he never realized that being a formal supergenius was a mental form of being a super in itself.
I'd love to see you cover Kent Mansley from the Iron Giant. Yes, he's a comedic villain but he's also fairly complex in that he's capable of depravity and represents jingoistic and xenophobic attitudes of the 50s. I think it would be a pretty interesting analysis.
Oh for sure, it was super big brain to make him a comedic villain because the real life dated American viewpoints he represents are just THAT silly in retrospect. And even more clever is the subversion of the army general being the level-headed one, trying to not escalate and using the least amount of force when possible.
Agreed, I used to be obsessed with this character years ago. He’s very fascinating!
I can see Syndrome being next to Davy Jones, for some reason, as they both were more than willing to end countless lives mainly because they were a little hurt a long time ago.
He's the average modern man, not even being funny. How hasn't anyone noticed this...
....because....this film came out in 2004? The "modern men" you refer to were literally children when this film came out. Explain the similarities please
@@sabir1208 The average modern man is not a murderous psychopath.
@@Guigley umm wrong
Congrats on being sexist.
As funny as it sounds I view Syndrome as one of the most realistic villains. There are ppl who have quite a bit of intelligence and they've used it to harm the lives of their idol. Only thing Syndromes got more sympathetic about him is he only did his horrific actions after he was directly turned down face to face and was a kid. You can go online and find some examples of fans gone crazy.
Syndrome always felt like a parallel to real life billionaires to me.
Obviously real life billionaires aren't always this evil, but it seems like due to things that happen in their childhood they just kind of view people underneath them differently and I have always wondered why they waste their wealth or hoard it instead of doing actually wonderful and brilliant things with their obscene amount of wealth.
You can't blame the billionaires. How much does the average person donate to charity or the homeless monthly? Annually?
Exactly. People are SELFISH. Being wealthy doesn't change that fact.
I honestly think that THE INCREDIBLES could fix their ruined series by showing the world that Syndrome wanted to create brought to full fruition: the Incredibles get pulled into an alternate timeline ( giving Bird the chance to make jolly fun of that trope to the full in the meantime ) where Syndrome won, his Incredibles were either killed or turned into mindless minions of his evil, and the world is full of ordinary people using Syndrome's tech to be quasi-Supers , throwing the entire planet into endless chaos of super team fighting super team and super villains running rampant. In that world, there are no ordinary folk to protect. There are only supers fighting for no other reason than that they want to. The "real Incredibles" have to try to fix what they see going horribly wrong...or die trying, while Emperor Syndrome rules the planet. THE INCREDIBLES : THIRD TIME'S THE ENDGAME.
Honestly, I don’t blame Mr Incredible for rejecting Buddy. Up to this point he was nice to him until Buddy nearly got a lot of people hurt or killed when he tried to help Mr Incredible and that’s where Mr Incredible put his foot down and made it clear that he worked alone. Could he have handled it better? Perhaps. I think no matter what Mr Incredible could have said or done Buddy would have took it the wrong way and still took the rejection hard.
Buddy was living in his own world unfortunately, a world where becoming Incrediboy was a possibility and nothing could burst that bubble except getting smacked in the face harshly by cruel cruel reality
Syndrome is my favorite Pixar villain of all time because he's so fixated on his hatred for mr. Incredible that he ends up going on a killing spree just because he was rejected by mr. Incredible. Syndrome is the very definition of toxic fandom
"He goes on a killing spree because he was rejected" that sounds just like a Mass Shooter.
@@josefengelhardt2767 if u think about its pretty accurate
I think another famous comic book villain said it best: All it takes is one bad day. Buddy caught Mr. Incredible on the worst possible day, a day he was distracted, his wedding, both his denial of it through work, and finally having to rush after his second encounter with Buddy and Bomb-voyage, let to multiple mistakes, Buddy nearly dying from a bomb, a train wreck, and the villain's escape. Bob's case of wedding jitters not only created a villain in Syndrome, but ended the life that he enjoyed, the damage he caused, and his rushing off without caring about it ended that world. It was a bad day for both Bob and Buddy, and the set them on a course to become enemies.
Without Buddy, Supers wouldn't have gotten banned and would still be around. It's solely Buddy's fault for that, he caused the track of the train to blow up, requiring Mr. Incredible to stop it, inadvertently injuring the passangers which fueled the lawsuits that got them banned. If Buddy wasn't stalking him, he would have soundly defeated Bomb Voyage, went to his wedding and at worse got sued by the suicidal person but without the extra damages (caused by Buddy's stupidity), it likely wouldn't have done much damage.
Eso también ayudo a buddy a hacer su plan gracias a que los supers eran ilegales pudo engañar a varios supers para que revivieran sus días de gloria y fueran víctimas del omnidroide@@MysteriousTomJenkins
Syndrome is personally one of the best animated villains in existence for his backstory and motives as well as Jason Scott Lee's chilling performance.
Syndrome is a perfect example of what an actual fan is like when they meet and look up to their idols. But in reality, their idols shows to not care about their fans and gave them a cold shoulder which made their fans come to realize that their idols are not the heroes they used to be and somehow made them become hostile towards them.
Now in Bob's defense, kid has been an active pest since he was on screen, if anything I'd call his response to Buddy restrained.
@@zashgekido5616 Bob even flat out says he’d been patient with Buddy and tried to be nice
The scary part about Syndrome is that he literally beat the Incredibles almost effortlessly because of his weapons. The only reason he lost is because his own invention turned on him.
And the cape. No capes.
Hubris strikes down another one once again.
Syndrome is such a well-written villain that you almost forget how tragic he is as a character
Excellent video as usual! Would love to see some of the following analyzed:
- Joe Cooper (Killer Joe)
- Omni-Man (Invincible)
- Cad Bane (Star Wars)
- Homelander (The Boys)
I love Killer Joe
Killer Joe would make for a great video, especially because the director, William Friedkin (who also made The Exorcist) passed away recently. I think it would make for a good tribute.
Homelander he will
Most def do but probly waiting for the series to end
I'd love to see a video on Kent Mansley from The Iron Giant and Makima from Chainsaw Man
The wickedness of Syndrome was not that he killed supers, but the manner in which he did it... found them in hiding, then lured them out like prey into a one on one deathmatch with a hero killing machine, knowing they would come out of retirement for a chance to be super again. Literally slaughtering them one by one... and on the odd occasions they succeeded their victory was data for upgrades before they were inevitably slaightered in the rematch... bone chillingly brilliant and terrifying. A true marvel of animated storytelling.
I think it’s also mostly for how terrifying the reasoning was for commuting those acts of murder.
Because the person he idolized told him “No”.
ElastaGirl ?! You married ElastaGirl !?
AND GOT BUSY!!!!!
A whole super family!! Hoaahhh this is just too good!
Syndrome could have been the greatest hero ever seen, that's the real tragedy.
Such a great villain, he was good at showcasing how fanboyism can easily become entitlement and narcissism.
I feel no one ever acknowledges that Syndrome and Mirage committed genocide on supers by luring every super on his island, only to kill them with his robot. He even had every super on file (except Elastigirl). Like that’s Stalin tier evil
To be fair,I would think Super Villains were not safe either and what is amazing is that Syndrome would have most likely accomplished this as a kid since Supervillains haven't taken over the Incredibles Universe when they can just.....I dunno.....not obey the new ban.
You sly dog! You got me watching an analysis on one of my favorite villains! I can't believe it! 😂
I'd be interested to see an analyzing evil on Anton Ego. He isn't the most layered character ever, but still a great antagonist
I think the real evil of the film was Chef Skinner
Ego just took his job a bit too seriously, while Skinner was just a greedy asshole.
@@WhyTho525 fair enough. There's a bit more depth to Ego though, and while he isn't overtly evil, he was still kind of a sinister presence in the movie
Lotso from Toy Story 3
@@WhyTho525 ... Anton Ego is an example of how fame & power can corrupt anyone, even those who may have started out w/ the purest of intentions.
Consider that Ego may have been a bright young schoolboy w/ two strengths -- a love of good food, plus a gift for writing & quick wit. As he rose up thru the grades during his schooling, he almost certainly would've excelled in many of his studies, particularly language & grammar. He may have in fact graduated w/ honors, gone on to attend & graduate college w/ multiple degrees & thereby had his pick of numerous prospective employers clamoring for him to apply.
As Ego himself hints at, there is a culture of arrogance among food critics, & if Ego had gained high status & fame among his peers then that would've only amplified the toxic effects of such an elitist culture. When Chef Gasteau began publicly using his motto "Anyone can cook" to promote his cookbooks & (possibly) his own TV cooking show, Ego seems to have taken that statement as an open rebuke, perhaps even a personal insult: what Gasteau or Ego does isn't reserved for a gifted few, but in fact is achievable by anyone who has the courage to believe in themselves.
Thus Ego may have issued his fateful, negative review of Gusteau's restaurant purely as a vendetta to strike down what he saw as an existential threat to everything Ego believed in: that those who succeed in life do so because of their natural superiority to the rest of "the herd" & not for any other reason. Chef Gusteau died & his restaurant suffered not because they'd committed any real harm to Ego, but because the powerful food critic couldn't see beyond his own petty animosity -- in other words, Ego deliberately set out to hurt Gusteau out of sheer egotism.
We see this clearly when Ego reacts in shock & horror when his assistant timidly informs him that Gusteau's restaurant has regained its popularity among the public -- sacre bleu! Gusteau's couldn't have recovered because it SHOULDN'T: it didn't deserve success, & Ego himself declares that his scathing review was supposed to be The Last Word on the matter. When Ego himself goes to confront Chef Linguini he taunts the young chef by saying that so far he's been *playing the game without an opponent* ... because Ego has long ago lost sight of himself as an objective judge. He is determined to be Linguini's ultimate adversary, no holds barred
...until the entree he is finally served at Gusteau's unexpectedly transports Ego back to a nearly lost, cherished memory when the simple joys of good home cooking meant the world to him as an innocent youth. Ego finally reconnects w/ the fact that what should matter most to him is praising excellence wherever he finds it, not destroying restaurants & ruining careers. Only after that crucial turning point does Ego reconsider his point of view, culminating w/ his 2nd review of Gusteau's in which he admits [paraphrasing] --
I now believe I have begun to truly understand what Gusteau was trying to say in that motto of his, "Anyone can cook", to which I once took such great offense. Not everyone can cook ... but *a great cook can come from anyone*.
@@WhyTho525Honestly, comparing to any other Pixar villains, Skinner is not too evil, he's just a guy who mostly wants to take over Gustavo's restaurant. Not as evil as Syndrome or Lots'O bear from Toy Story 3
One of the villains I was actually able to relate to, as messed up as that sounds. Not because I like he was in the right or Mr. Incredible was wrong for not giving him the time of day, but I think most people know what it feels like to be so thoroughly burned by someone who you had put up on a pedestal. Who meant the world to you. And once that bridge is burned, it’s almost impossible to repair, and if you aren’t mindful of it, those feelings will eat you alive and turn into something else for better or oftentimes worse.
Why often times?
You can’t help but wonder how different he would’ve turned out if Buddy had been a fan of another hero. A nurturing one that was willing to sit someone down and talk to them.
I honestly don’t think Buddy would listen, Bob tried to talk to him and he kept interrupting and acting like he was gonna say yes, Bob was gonna flat out reject him and tell him why what he’s doing is creepy but Buddy stops him and starts rambling about how he knows all of his moves. If he was a fan of another hero like say Frozone he’d likely try to speak to him and quickly realise nothing short of an aggressive rejection would get through to him
Hopefully not with a damn supervillain within the same vicinity.
Once again you take me back to my childhood with this character analysis.
I was actually wondering just this morning if he would ever get a video LOL. Great to see him get his due. I remember watching a video that brought up a point that in other Pixar movies he would be the protagonist and how he’s a great subversion of the underdog trope and it really changed how I view him. I think it’s definitely interesting to think of how the movie would have turned out had it largely been from his perspective. Really great character.
An excellent example of "A child abandoned by his village will burn it down to feel it's warmth."
What happened to buddy was tragic. However, that never give him the right to have a vendetta against all superkind and attempt Genocide. He was pure evil. Evil made by his hero's angst.
Wasn't really tragic, just reality. He was a child, proved himself to be a hindrance AND a liability, and he wasn't needed. He just proved his point by becoming a villain.
@@sabir1208Reality can still be tragic. 😒
@@FrankieTheTurtle It's not tragic to tell a kid to be a kid and not be in dangerous adult situations 🙄
@@sabir1208 …… that’s not what I’m saying is tragic? Lmao.
@FrankieTheTurtle so what exactly is tragic about what happened to him? Besides him murdering hella supes
One nice detail of this movie can be seen when Mr. Incredible says "go home buddy, i work alone".
In the actual scene, Mr. Incredible is holding Bomb Voyage while talking to buddy, but on the flashback, Mr. Incredible is looking down on Buddy and Bomb Voyage is nowhere to be seen, meaning that he remembers that moment as more humiliating than it actually was.
Pixar had balls to sneak in a small-scale superhero GENOCIDE into the Incredibles.
The creepiest part about Syndrome to me, was when he said, "And if everyone is Super, than no one will be!". As if that is even remotely a bad thing: He's theoretically benefitting society because he thinks he's being spiteful against superheroes (and one has to wonder if most of them even want to *have* to do their job.) all because just *ONE* of them was a bit rude to him *ONCE...*
... I hate how creepily realistic that is. 😬
Love how you used "theoretically". When you think about it, the outcome would have been far worse. If he had won there would have been an outbreak of violence to an uncontrollable degree because let's be real if he gave everyone powers, a lot of chaos would insue as not many people are noble heroes
@@tenkyu778 Before I reply: Why did you love that I used the word "theoretically"?
@@Delightfully_Bitchy IDk not a whole lot of peps really use it when talking about villains
@@tenkyu778 Mmm. Well, keep in mind that the weapons he was going to sell *probably* would have been really expensive, so not that many people would've had access to them. Meanwhile, the world sells weapons for dirt cheap *now* and the world hasn't devolved into chaos. So when you say " If he had won there *WOULD* have been an outbreak of violence to an uncontrollable degree" it's more like " If he had won there *COULD* have been an outbreak of violence to an uncontrollable degree".
Theoretically speaking, of course. :)
What are suprise. One of the Absolute best villains in Disney/Pixar. Like you said Syndrome Is tragic and yet despicable. Every excuse buddy has he Just throw down in the toilet the Moment he became a Mass Murder Monster. That Is One of the reason he was not only the best but One of the most evil villain ever
Bro was so petty he chose to cosplay as a villain 24:7 when he could’ve gone the underdog route and proved Bob wrong by using his talents for tech that would make supers obsolete in a helpful way
1. I always found it interesting that, even at his worst, Syndrome still seemingly admired Mr.Incredible. He gushed about how many upgrades he had to make for the Omnidroid to be worthy of fighting him and how he managed to cleverly fake his death.
2. One thing to note is that Mirage was tracking Frozone and her finding Mr.Incredible was pure coincidence, which caused Syndrome to shift and accelerate his plans.
If he hadn't been with Frozone that night, there's a good chance the former would have been added to the long list of colleagues and friends Syndrome had alredy murdered.
Could you do GLaDOS from the portal games please? Your videos are so great!
Another perfectly timed intro, excellent.
this is the first time I'm genuinely sympathetic to the plight of the villain. Buddy just wanted to help out, but he was shunned because he didn't have powers, and he was right about them not respecting him until he was a threat.
I kinda feel like he killed Mirage too between getting knocked into that building and attempting to kidnap Jack-Jack it would make sense that he'd find his assets frozen and unleash his anger on the person who triggered his downfall.
Another villain recommendation if you ever get time, would be the Tannens from the back to the future trilogy. I think that could be an interesting analysis.
I believe that at least part of Buddy was always Syndrome. You might get the impression that since he idolized superheroes like many kids he would want to do good. But I don't think even as a child that's what attracted him to super heroes. It was the power and fame; it wasn't helping people. Even with as rough as an encounter with Mr.Incredible as he had, to do something as evil as serial killing requires at least a bit of evil already in one's heart. He frankly displays a lot of characteristics of a psychopath, probably fostered through a mixture of nature and nurture (seeing as his home life probably wasn't very good although considering the merch he had he must of atleast had money). I don't think he displays empathy or remorse in the entirety of the film.
You're right, he does not even once in the film.
He didn’t even care when he was stood next to a train crash he’d caused, kid was always bad news
I agree.
I have always viewed him as having some kind of personality disorder. Made even worse by the environment.
If given the best possible conditions to grow up in (loving & nurturing parents, as well as an environment that takes his huge intellect in to account) he would probably have become a distant/cold, bit humorous scientist.
Given the upbringing, he would've most likely created gadgets for the supers, or weapons for the government (unsure if that's something good) He could've been a decent person, but most likely not a great one, personality wise.
But then again, does he need to be?
His major drive in the movie is his hatred towards Bob. If that is gone, what is replacing it? Did he love creating for the sake of it?
Would he create weapons on the "good side" for them to later abuse without him getting involved?
Watching the movie again as an adult I always thought:
"Kid, if this guy chooses to work alone rather than sharing with a hot, flexible superheroine, hell will freeze over before he'll pick you."
The irony of Pine is his hero name "Syndrome" a medical term that associates with diseases and disorders.
One thing you did miss is how Syndrome "remembers" the incident when Mr. Incredible tells him "Fly home Buddy, I work alone."
In the actual scene, Mr. Incredible says this while he shoves Bomb Voyage against the wall and he said so in a tone that is somewhat like "Look, now's not the best time, get out of here!" with Bomb Votage insulting him.
But when Syndrome brings it up and "remembers" it, Bomb Voyage is NOWHERE to be seen in his memory, instead it's just Mr. Incredible who tells him "Fly home, Buddy. I work alone." in a cold dismissive tone.
This shows that Syndrome as a young boy had quite the tunnel vision. He was so insisting on being the sidekick to Mr. Incredible that NOTHING else mattered. He did not pay attention to Bomb Votage at all, he did not pay attention to the dangers, Mr. Incredible was all he had in mind back then. Everything else was just blocked out.
So him rememembering it all wrong to "justify" his hatred for him just shows how close minded he was. As children we all have tunnel visions, we all get affected by adults who dismiss us at a young age and to us it feels like we are unwanted and unloved when we can't see the bigger picture on the reason WHY they don't want us to be around at that moment and get upset and confused when they tell us to go away further.
At that age we will get upset and probably hate them back in return, not caring why they are not in the mood to have us around, all we cared about was our own feelings, we just end up sulking and not wanting to talk to them.
That's what Syndrome was like as a child and even as he grew up but yet his memory of the incident never chagned, to him it's always Mr. Incredibles fault.
He may have the body of an adult, he may have the mind of a genius...but he has the soul of a sulking child.
Inkrediboy: I wanna work with you, Mr. Inkredible! 😀
Mr. Inkredible: Go home, buddy. I work alone.
Mr. Inkrediboy: And now... this world shall know Pain!
"The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth". -African Proverb
Whoa- I never considered the actual possibility that Buddy was actually a super- and his power was his intellect. It is absolutely possible, he couldve been the Incredibles version of Batman- intellectually and physically indomitable. And who knows what couldve happened if he had won against Mr. Incredible.
You should do the Reapers, From Mass Effect.
Are they evil if that is the very nature of their existence to clean out singularity events? I mean they don't do so with malice.
When an Analyzing Evil video is released:
*”You sly dog, you got me monologuing. I can’t believe it.”*
Also I hope you cover Captain Rhodes from Day of the Dead. While not a villain until the end he’s certainly an antagonist. He’s my favorite character from the Dead trilogy but that’s partially due to his relations with the other characters.
Vile's commentary is unmatched.
Great analysis as always! Syndrome is hands down the greatest villian in the Pixar universe. He's brutal, over the top, and his motivation is realistic as its based on the rejection of his idol.
Have you ever thought about doing one on a Shakespearean play? I think characters like Richard the Third, Macbeth, or the story of Hamlet would be great picks for this channel...
Syndrome is probably one of best Pixar and one of the most underrated Disney and superher villains of all time
He is a perfect example of a biggest fan becoming one of your worst nightmares throu horrible mistreatment
SINCE YOU DID SYNDROME IT WOULD BE REALLY FITTING IF YOU DID AN ANALYSISING EVIL EPISODE OF TIGHTEN FROM MEGAMIND
On the topic of animation, Leonard Dawson from Golgo 13 would make for another quality Analyzing Evil.
Regarding Syndrome I like that he never seemed to grow up. A comment said Syndome never let go of the past, and it goes farther w/his childish mannerisms and personality at times. He got smarter, wealthier, but never "matured". His obsession drove him to such a point that he turns into a villain himself. Can't stop to look in the mirror, and part of me believes that deep down he truly sees himself as a superhero.
syndrome is a nice amalgamation of interesting villain mindsets which you appreciate more as you get older
It is interesting to look into the lore for the heroes that syndrome murdered. They really did a good job fleshing them out although it isn’t show specifically in the movie.
Got to paint Syndrome as a megathreat somehow. Those other supers where not pushovers
I am pretty sure Syndrome also killed various Supervillains even as a kid if they were also in hiding despite now being in power to be able to take over with the Super Ban. Not like criminals will obey laws unless if they are dead.
Would love to see Analyzing Evil for Shishio Makoto from Rurouni Kenshin. Such a peak villain both in the anime and the live action.
Shishio was the GOAT! Everything about him was epic. His ruthlessness, his idealogy, his fighting style, his intellect. Even his broad was top tier! I didn't bother watching the rest of the show after his death. Like Aizen was to Bleach, Shishio was the ultimate villain of the series in my eyes.
"When everyone's super, no one will be." His best quote.
Tangentially related, but Bob mistaking his name for "Brody" is a nice, multilayered joke that I didn't get till I was ana dult and saw all of Kevin Smith's view askew movies.
Been waiting for this! One of the most entertaining but also threatening villains in animation
Analyzing Evil: Tai Lung From Kung Fu Panda
The thought never occurred to me that Buddy was actually a Super, kind of recontextualizes the whole story a bit with that idea in mind.
Syndrome's one of the major reasons The Incredibles still stands-out from any other Pixar movie or even superhero movie from the time, and the way he's written even rivals many of the villains in great superhero comics from the golden and silver age.
I would nominate The Master from Fallout 1 for this series.