Analyzing Evil: Pulp Fiction
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- Hello everyone and welcome to the one hundred twenty-third episode of Analyzing Evil! Our topic for this video is Pulp Fiction. I hope you enjoy, and thanks for watching. If you have any feedback or questions feel free to let me know below!
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#quentintarantino #pulpfiction #evil
So there's a few comments I've seen regarding my judgement on the morality of these characters that I'd like to touch on here rather than replying to them all individually. I may have made a mistake when I said that these characters aren't evil, and I apologize if you think so, but then again maybe I didn't. When I made this claim, I was doing so for two reasons.
The first, is that a requirement to label someone as evil in my book is for them to harbor malicious intent, and while these characters do have malicious intent, it's incidental. This is why I made the cracking an egg analogy (Also, give me a break here. Maybe it's common knowledge but I wasn't aware that an egg isn't considered an unborn chicken. Regardless, I'm sure you get what I was going for.) When they steal, are they stealing to cause someone misery, or are they doing so because they're greedy? Are they killing because it brings them joy? Or is it part of their job description? It's definitely greed, and it's also part of their horrid job, and to harbor such greed and to make the decision to enter into such a profession does require malicious intent to a certain degree, but on the scale of evil it's far lower than say, a megalomaniac who orders his armies to conquer countries so he might gain more power. As I pointed out in the video, greed is still evil, and it obviously causes a lot of harm to a lot of people. So based on their greed and their actions, you can label these people as being evil, and you'd be in the right for doing so.
However, the second reason I refrained from defining these people as being evil is because of who they are, and their potential for redemption. Rather than being monstrous villains, they're gangsters. Criminals who are more than capable of turning their lives around and abandoning their evil ways, just as Jules is attempting to do in the film. There are plenty of examples of this in the real world, examples of people who entered a life of crime due to their environment, influences, upbringing, etc. who didn't necessarily want to be the criminals that they are, and though there are many people who return to a life of crime after they've made the decision to better themselves, there are more still who don't and make amends for their wrong doings. Part of the reason I feel so strongly about this is because I know people who have, and while I acknowledge that what they did was evil, they are far from being evil themselves, even if they might have been at the time. Selfish, greedy, and misguided, would be a better way to label them in my view, and that's the way that I believe we're intended to see these characters. Flawed individuals who we can all identify with on some level who make some really nasty choices, but who aren't beyond the point of no return.
So, with all this in mind, yes, in the moment, at the time these people were committing evil acts, they were evil, and depending on your own views they might still be regardless of whether or not they choose to abandon the life they live, and I should have mentioned these things in the video. But in my eye, the insight we're given into their personalities and motivations sets them apart from other evil doers, and this affords us the opportunity to label them as people who commit evil acts, but are saved from being labelled as evil due to who they are, how they came to be who they are, why they do what they do, and their potential for good. As always, I appreciate the discourse, as I'm not perfect, and I love learning other view points and I appreciate when you point out anything I might have missed or gotten wrong, so please feel free to continue expanding upon anything I've said in this comment or in this video!
"Give me a break, here"
Ahhhhhhhhhhh dats the Vile eye know.
Very good explanation and I would I say I agree with it.
A suggestion: Captain Rhodes from George A. Romero's Day Of The Dead (1985).
I read this and imagine you actually saying for some reason.
Are you doing another vile eye tier list? You said on your updated video that you would revisit it in 6 months and it has been 7. Or are you planning on doing something different now?
Anyone who would finish someone’s entire soda before executing them is beyond redemption.
Hm.
its not like Brad was going to drink it, Jules didn't want it to go to waste.
Big brained Brett deserved a resprite from his execution.
Looks dope tho😂
I think a good video would be Dracula or the Book of the Dead from Evil Dead. These good horror flicks are stacking up this year
travolta's performance of the line "aw man I shot marvin in the face" really cements the whole thing about the banality of evil
Marvin was the rat in the situation, so Vincent’s reaction makes sense. Sadly.
@@JackTorrance333 but wasn't he their informant? He even personally knows Jules.
@@hardcoreking52 that's what he meant by rat
What evil that was an accident?!?!?! 😳😳
@@AliciaM5555
I think what he means is not the act of killing Marvin itself, but their reaction to it: from that moment on everyone’s reaction to it is one of annoyed inconvenience. To use Vile Eye’s scrambled eggs analogy, Vincent dropped the pan on the floor and spilled the eggs. Even Jimmie (Quentin Tarantino) isn’t upset there’s a murder victim in his garage, he’s just pissed off they’d bring the corpse to his home and potentially cause problems with his wife.
I always looked at Pulp Fiction as a story about bad people either finding their way to the path of the righteous man or rejecting it and being struck down. Jules sees him and Vincent's survival as a sign from god that he needs to change and Vincent dismissing it exemplifies this pretty well. Jules gets out while he can and Vincent stubbornly stays on the evil path and gets slain.
But if Jules didn't abandon Vincent....they would have killed Butch and both still alive
Vincent even gets a second and third divine intervention. Mia ODs, saving him from cucking his boss (it was totally going to happen otherwise) and then she survives.
Jesus Christ your name
Vincent had to support his own Heroin addiction. That shit gets expensive. I used to pay like $140 a gram back in the day, but obviously it wasn't pure like the fictional stuff in this film. That stuff hijacks your brain. It becomes your only goal, to get the dope and related accoutrements and get high.
Salvation is in the briefcase
We also see Butch's moral compass at work when he saves Marsellus. He knows how wrong it is to just leave him like that, even if the man was just trying to kill him.
@pyropulse "you need to..." Wow, man lol. People are entitled to their opinions, even if they're bad takes in your view. 😆
@pyropulse you need to go to your room
He killed the other boxer though and was rather nonchalant about that. I think he wanted revenge himself as much as to help out Marcellus also if redeemed him a little to save him he just lost LA privileges but no more Big Boss wants you dead for not taking a dive in the ring.
@pyropulse Butch’s story starts out with him being told the story about two men enduring horrors in “that Hanoi pit of hell” and how it formed a bond. Butch applying that lesson to save a man who wanted him dead is the whole point of the story. If Marcellus had betrayed Butch and they ended up in the same situation, of course Butch would have done the same thing.
There's a whole aspect of the character you're missing.
The watch story wasn't a throw away story. His father was a POW who was left behind. He spent his life thinking about how he wouldn't leave someone behind being tortured by the enemy. It was in this moment that he got to live out that fantasy and rescue a fellow prisoner.
Fun Fact: Uma Thurman originally turned down the role of Mia Wallace. Quentin Tarantino was so desperate to have her as Mia, he ended up reading her the script over the phone, finally convincing her to take on the role.
Sadly, after Kill Bill, their friendship ended. When you read up about what happened during the filming of Kill Bill, you can see why Uma and Quentin's friendship ended and why there isn't a sequel to Kill Bill.
@@Unaliq What happened?
@Ptolémée Sélénion During the filming, Quentin asked Uma to do a stunt herself. I think it was a driving stunt that Uma posted on Twitter. Not sure if it's still up or could be available here on TH-cam.
Just checked. There is a video on here showing Uma crashing into a tree.
Addition fun & games: due to the scenes involving Mia and Vincent, and in particular the dance sequence, John Travolta would actively set out to make another movie in which he could again work with Uma Thurman and perform another dance sequence with her, but Travolta wanted his and Thurman's characters to be more of a benevolent nature in a more lighthearted film. This desire of Travolta's to work with Thurman in this capacity would result in the "Get Shorty" sequel: "Be Cool."
It’s hilarious how 90% of the plot points in this movie hinge on Vincent being an inept fool
Not even just that he's a fool, but half of the time he's on heroin and everytime he goes to the bathroom some shit goes down lmfao
He's like that friend that you can't take anywhere
Yeah. He reminds me a bit of Mills in Se7en. Mills is completely inept no matter how much of a tough guy he wants to appear. John Doe sees his ineptitude, his rage and his malice and chooses exploit him not just to manipulate his actions but to make him the final piece of his grand scheme. If Mills was not wrathful John Doe would have either had to stick with some unknown original plan or fail his new plan for Mills. Likewise if Vincent hadn’t been arbitrary and reckless with his actions Mia would not have overdosed, hand cannon guy might have been found before ever attacking, Marvin wouldn’t have been shot, and Vincent himself wouldn’t have been caught with his pants down, resulting in his execution. Much like Mills is kept relatively in line by Somerset, Vincent only acts reasonably when Jules is his voice of reason. If Jules had stayed in the organization, if he continued to be that voice of reason Vincent might have at least lived. But the reasoning of Jules left him with only one option: to leave the underworld. Somerset has a similar conclusion at the end of Se7en, to keep up and inspire the fight against the encroaching wickedness of the world. It’s funny how similar these two of among the best films of the nineties have a lot of narrative parallels.
He's not a fool, but a junkie. He's sloppy. Using dope leads to constant constipation, ultimately leading to his death. I could also see being too loosee goosee with the gun being attributed to being high, seeing as i was a heroin addict once. It's most likely a large part of why he wouldn't quit his gangster life; easy money for his habit.
@@BenjaminSteber You're wrong in that account of Mills being "completely inept" or even close to "ineptitude"as that's ENTIRELY wrong. Mills IS a good enough of a detective and cop for him to advance the plot to know what's what as how he was able to go into john doe's home as legally as he could have, it's just that his rage and passion gets the best of him for him to do rash decision. And Mills isn't trying to be a "tough guy" he IS a tough guy naturally as he's just really passionate and rageful against people and others.
Also could have mentioned how Butch goes back to save Marcellus despite the fact they were trying to go after each other because leaving him at the Pawn shop was a fate he didn't deserve.
At the same time, butch takes a meticulous and unnecessary amount of time picking a weapon. It shows that he wasn’t in a rush and didn’t care how much marcelle suffered, simply that he’d be even after saving him
@@haroldasusus4684 Maybe. Or he was taking extra time to find the right weapon to insure his safety. A hammer, bat or chainsaw might not be the most efficient weapon for taking on 2 or more people, atleast compared to the sword.
@Haroldasusus I don't know. Maybe he was assessing the chance of success per weapon. I think the fact that he returned to save him shows he's got principles. I don't think he was deliberately taking his time. And if he did take the chainsaw maybe it would have conked out on him during the fight. No offence but I think we'd be splitting hairs to say he didn't mind how long Marcellas suffered for. However I see your point. Deffo. Their all immoral so it stands to reason. He may have took his time...lol
@@bennybenjben9594 katanas are pretty hard to use. I think we’re both right, imo he was not acting with urgency in mind.
@@haroldasusus4684 I'm sure it's not hard enough that you wouldn't be able to kill someone relatively easy with it though. But yeah if it was his gf or best friend in there instead of Marcellus he would've moved quicker for sure lol.
Jules was the most intelligent character in this movie. He could see a sign in the fact that they hadn't been shot in a situation where there was no way out. He backed out just in time and it was Vincent who was shot in the bathroom by Butch. Also, his analysis of the Ezekiel verse was very interesting.
True. But if Jules was with Vincent while he was taking a dump. Jules most likely would have killed Butch and they would both still be alive
That's all one interepretation. Mine is that he saw a "sign" because he was deluded and hypocritical, especially as he even commits a final murder AFTER the supposed miracle but thinks God is redeeming him. He also may have been killed by Wallace or Vince, since there was surely no logical reason for Wallace to just let him walk away and become a priest when he knows enough about all of them to put them on death row. And since he got "into character" with Vince, the Ezekiel verse was just a piece of theatre to scare those guys before he murdered them. All in all, he was a shallow criminal just like Vince.
@@bigisrick It could be as you say. Or maybe he'd go get Butch himself, who knows. He made his choice. And it ended as we saw.
@@CellHeart In my opinion, Vince was just a hitman, I didn't see him as intelligent. Jules was different, he was much smarter. Still, I don't think he's a hypocrite, he was honest about his change. I think so. Why do I think he has changed? When explaining his transformation to Ringo by holding him at gunpoint, and Vincent insisted that he kill him "on principle".
@@---Vector His "change" happened on the spur of the moment, after he'd tormented and killed two people, and just BEFORE he killed a third and then helped dispose of a fourth (who he knew personally). So the idea of his "redemption" always seemed like crap to me, it was just narcissism and delusion, IMO
Zed and his Brother were the most terrifying character in the film,truly two character Who had a lot of evil inside
Aren't those two lovers ?
@@redjakOfficial No, from what i read they are Brothers.
@@eddieguerrerofantasy Ok, I never knew
marcelus had some evil inside of him too for a while
@@waldirnacarath😂😂😂
Samuel L Jackson's performance in Pulp Fiction is one of the best performances I've ever seen in my entire life
He was robbed of his Oscar win
I loved Landau in Ed Wood but…Come on! Sam Jacks should have won
it wasnt that good calm down buddy
Ever since Pulp Fiction, Samuel L Jackson is known for saying "Motherf*****" in cinema history. Every movie where he says it, he always brings me back to Pulp Fiction 🤣
@@FreakyJuice Bruh 😭
It indeed AMAZING
Marsellus Wallace is the perfect example of how evil is not cut and dry. When they were in the rape dudgeon he could have easily killed the person ultimately responsible for putting him there, but he exhibited honor and spared Butch.
@That V8 Life bruh what 💀
@That V8 Life Butch took the bribe money Marcellus gave him to throw the boxing match and he didn't. Marcellus had every right to kill Butch if he wanted to.
@That V8 Life tf does this shit have anything to do with him being liberal tho 💀💀💀. and ofc i’ve watched the movie
@@gabemartinez3280 Bro really couldn't take a break from the culture war for five minutes.
@@dowansulton123456 no he doesn't, butch saved his goofy ass. "victims like marcellus have zero fault for anything and have divine right to murder the guy who saved them from being a sex slave" - it was marsellus's desire for revenge that brought him there, not butch's deception. you guys need some serious reading comprehsion skills if you can't make the connection that OP was trying to make. it's called victim glorification. btw perfect SAT score so I know what the fuck I'm actually reading.
Everytime Vincent steps into the toilet, shit goes down.
isn't that how going to the bathroom normally works?
A side effect of heroin usage (or other opioids) is constipation. That's very Vincent is on the toilet so much.
Pulp Fiction was easily my favorite bad guy in anything....ever.
And then when he came out he pointed his pistol at Mr. Orange's doppelgangers girlfriend.
When they had the bag, and Pulp busts down the door, gun drawn. “Looks like I caught you boys at breakfast!”
But Pulp notices his partner Han Cannon is unconscious in a chair, beaten to a pulp, surrounded by the most hateful 8 of the Crazy 88 with swords drawn!!
@@jeffnicholas6342 This made me giggle in a great way, thank you Jeff Nicholas.
My favorite part was when it said "It's Pulpin Time!" and then Fictioned all over those fools. Truly one of the Royale With Cheese moments of all time😎💯
@@ludwigvansolo1999 hehe
Pulp Fiction is brilliant because of how intentionally casual it is when depicting scenes of violence and other grotesque acts all against the backdrop of everyday American society.
I remember in film class the teacher asked what film director students admired and wanted to emulate. More than half said Quentin Tarantino.
Thats cool. But those students should want to be themselves and create a style of they’re own
@@NTEDOG561 No one dose that anymore sadly.
@@NTEDOG561 artists have to start somewhere
@@Andrew-qc8jh Thats no excuse Inspiration is one thing but to base your work completely off the artist before you is redundant strive for originality is all.
@AstroFL where are you coming up with "completely base" from? It said person they admired and wanted to emulate. That sounds like inspiration to me
I'm a lifelong career artist who has mastered multiple mediums from oil paints, charcoal and spray paint. Now I am working in creative coding. One has to learn from somewhere to start in a field. No where does it say they are outright leaving their identity behind to make a film. You probably have some personal issues or footing in this realm
The most brilliant thing ever about Pulp Fiction is that you are essentially following characters that are a bunch of scumbags, yet as you watch the film, you forget that these are bad guys because these characters are so well written and there is a lot of humanity amongst them all.
I personally like to think that Jules was redeemed in the end, as he realized that the path of violence leads only to death and destruction and decided to quit his job of being a hit man, as him not getting struck by the bullets made him see the destruction of what he’s doing.
Kudos to you for being able to cover this, though. I’m sure this was really difficult to do. Pulp Fiction is actually my favorite movie so I am honored that you covered this! 😊
I wonder if Mr Wallis let him give two weeks notice.
@@Filthy_Larry wdym?
@@nathanslay6342 like how do you quit being a Hitman?
@@Filthy_Larry you tell your boss that you’re not in for it anymore I suppose
butch is arguably the 'good guy' in this crazy noir
His overall intentions are good but his behavior isn't. He's something of a sadistic brute, but you're right he's the more redeemable character of the story.
I'd argue Jules is the good guy too. Again, he's a bit unhinged, but ultimately he sees it as a job. Its not personal, it just is the way it is. Then again, he does have a small epiphany after a near-death experience and turns over a new leaf.
@@SSD_Penumbra seeing murdering people as a job is evil.
@@otten5666 It is, but everyone he kills is also evil.
@@Shah-of-the-Shinebox what makes butch sadistic brute? He chose a samurai sword to execute the true sadists probably the most civilized humane option available.
Let's be honest. Grand Theft Auto and at least the first two Saints Row games owe pretty much their entire existence to this movie.
Also the game Kingpin: Life of Crime straight has marcellus wallace as the antagonist lol.
I'd say that Saints Row owes its existence to GTA, which owes its existence to this film.
@Uriah Graham you're probably right, the first two games were meant to be contender sandbox drive-and-shoot games. That having been said, the first time I played SR3, I says aloud to myself "This is what would happen if QT directed Ed, Edd n' Eddy."
How is rhe original GTA inspired by Pulp Fiction? It started development as a game where you played as a cop chasing bad guys. It was essentially going to be a racing game
@@bigisrick I meant as far as narrative and writing goes.
I’d love to see an episode on “The Hateful Eight” as well 😊
Me too
Great idea!
That is really walking the razor line between good and evil
I ❤ Hateful Eight.
Which do you think was the most evil of the lot? Each one was an area of grey character- not 💯 good or 💯 evil.
I'm having a hard time deciding. Definitely Jody and Daisy are contestants.
But, oddly, I think The Hangman Ruth is a contestant too. He has the option of bringing the fugitive in alive or dead. By that time in history if there's a reward for your capture, you're as good as guilty and hung. He could get the misery of the fugitive over with by just killing them and bringing in the corpse. But I think he takes great satisfaction in bringing them in alive and watching the hanging.
@@sharonpopolow6874 The hangman's gotta make a living too.. Ruth doesn't skip the hangman.
As a German that read "Eichmann in Jerusalem" in school AND watched Pulp Fiction around the same age, I gotta say, combining both is *genius*. It makes so much sense. Damn, you are good at this.
I think it was in Kill or be Killed when the MC was discussing how you lose fear after you do something. He's talking about how fear KEEPS you from crossing those lines, but once you do cross those lines, the fear recedes more and more until everything just becomes commonplace again and you're pretty much capable of anything if you just LET YOURSELF do it.
Don't know why, but I have the strange feeling that Vincent was in the bathroom the moment his brother Vic was shot to death by the infiltrated cop in Reservoir Dogs...
Probably reading the same book, too xD
Tarentino apparently wrote a script for a movie starring the two brothers. Too bad it never was made...
@@redjakOfficial Perhaps he'll turn it into a novel. Keeping my fingers crossed.
@@redjakOfficial Or an audio drama!
@@ricardoaguirre6126 That would be geat too, I'd read/listen to that on the toilet, for sure
I think Vic would be considered outright evil and psychopathetic. If they ever made a movie of the two i think it would be similiar to the Gecko Brothers from From Dusk til Dawn. Im aware Tarantino also created these characters as well!
You not choosing a character for this one really shows how much evil things this movie had 😂
I love this movie, one of my favorites.
One of mine too. Especially how it ended with phenomenal acting by Samuel L. Jackson.
@@mikebasil4832 You actually reminded me that I forgot to mention the epic music choices it had as well, Misirlou, Surf Rider & You Can Never Tell with that dancing scene.
Whenever I listen to one of those I feel a sense of nostalgia that doesn't exist !
In my opinion, Pulp Fiction is a cinematic marvel that'll never be forgotten and Samuel L. Jackson should've won the Oscar for this iconic film. Awesomely thorough analysis as always, bravo! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Casual evil; it is relatable, it is unapologetic and it glamorizes the odious deeds that we think is cool. Something we usually see in most Tarantino or even gangster flicks. By the way, thank you for doing this video. I have been waiting for an evil analysis for Pulp Fiction.
Casual evil is relatable probably because it presents villains as average people who regard evil behavior as merely a job or business and therefore " normal" to them.
I have a suggestion.
Spec Ops: The Line is
A game that markets itself as a generic modern military shooter. But in reality it contains one of the best stories and themes ever put into a video game.
Nah, if you want peak subtlety and proper story themes go for the tehsnakerer classic: 50 cent Blood on the Sand
That's a really good suggestion. I would love to see that.
To sum the game: "Are we the baddies?"😂
It's pure hypocrisy, though.
@@RealRotkohl what is?
"The casualness of evil" makes me think of "the great carelessness" that F. Scott Fitzgerald talks about in The Great Gatsby - some people being in a position, by money or status, to play games with others' lives.
I like that rather than focusing on a single character, you’ve started looking at multiple characters from the same story. It puts their actions into context even more and I believe it’s more fair to every character, and distinguishes the truly vile characters from those who just got caught up in that life. I would like to see this done with The Sopranos, since there are plenty of characters that are scattered on the spectrum of morality. An episode on the characters in Grand Theft Auto V would make for a very interesting watch, too. Love these vids.
I like how you corrected Jules's speech at the end of the movie when he calls his gun "Mr 9mm" when it's really a 45. That part of that scene always bugged me.
@MrDman21 Incorrect, that's a 9mm Star Model B. Not a colt 45. Looks similar so it's easy to make the mistake.
@@bunglewungle261 ok
Easy mistake to make. And commonly done deliberately in movies. This is because the Star Model B 9mm very closely resembles the Colt Model 1911 .45 except for it's external extractor. The .45 is notoriously difficult for movie armorers to get to operate properly with blanks. Any auto requires a number of modifications to operate with them. The Star has long been used as a stand-in for the Colt because it's relatively easy to get it to run properly with blanks. Jules actually did correctly refer to the gun as a 9mm. Which is unusual. Typically it's meant to be taken for the Colt.
@@jamesclark6427 cool. You learn something new everyday.
Zed's dead baby, zed's dead.
Fun Fact: The script indicates Jules was originally to sport an Afro, and carry a .45 like Vincent's. But thanks to the prop department he ended up with a Gerry curl, and a 9mm Star MB, which Samuel L. Jackson found more fitting of a thug from 90s Inglewood
ah yes pulp fiction the movie with acting and editing so good that you won't care that there is basically no plot
It's a shame Tarantino didn't make a prequel crossover of Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs about Vincent and Vic because of the actor's age. I think watching both characters together would have been the SH*T
Unfortunately, according to Tarantino, he wanted to make 10 movies throughout his career, with the upcoming Movie Critic being his last film.
He could've done it but now since most of these actors have gotten old it seems like a missed opportunity.
Winston absolutely enjoys what he does! Can see it in his face. He's good at it and knows it what's more. That is all. Great work on your channel. Keep em coming
Absolutely agree!
There is tremendous satisfaction in being summoned to sort out a problem, and applying your skills and your wit to succesfully solving that problem.
It feels real good.
This just might be the best Most in depth video you have made on the channel, Absolutely loved this one
If I had to choose only one movie to watch for the rest of my life, it would be this. I frequently put it on in the background while I'm doing work around the house, and just restart it. What I love most about this movie is that every brutal character has a moral decision to make at one point in their day(s), and they all end up doing what is right when faced with that choice.
YES! One of my all-time favorite movies. In my top ten. This movie is such rich with character and story that I am so glad and excited to hear you cover it.
Top two with Aliens for me. They are 1A and 1B to me pretty much.
@@chrismartucci3005 Good choice. Got to love Aliens.
@@chrismartucci3005 I rewatched Aliens again just a few hours ago lol great great movie
@@thebadfella5296 For sure. And it always stays good no matter how many times you watch it. To the point where you can recite almost the entire script. I actually met Michael Biehn, Mark Rolston, Rico Ross and William Hope at a con a little while ago in Jacksonville.
Definitely in my top 3 movies along with The Thing and 2001: A Space Odyssey.
One of my all time favourites! What an excellent job you did on this one mate!
Why not explore each character. This truly is one of the greatest films ever made with fabulous characters.
You have such a tremendously soothing voice if you did audiobook readings of classic literature I would essentially never stop watching your channel lol
The title alone is enough to know this is going to be a fantastic video.
Banal evil is why I’ve recommended peep show before and will do again. Come on, Jeremy Usborne accidentally eats a dog that he accidentally killed but when he realizes what he’s done he continues to do it to protect himself… that is one of the really big things that could be defined as evil in that show but there’s so much more to analyze.
Mark Corrigan: Did you actually have to eat it?
HAVE SOME LOVELY TURKEY
Johnson can also arguably be considered evil. Stick that up your dojo.
"Crack? Crack Super hans?"
"It's just a wee bit o crack its not blue peter"
Bruh so that’s how that’s spelled. I thought it was with a V. Or Vanality or Finality. Thank you so much man
Quentin Tarantino sure has made some enthralling movies over the years, probably an understatement to say the least.
Now that Snowfall has wrapped, I think Franklin Saint would be a good subject for one of your future analyzing evil videos. I'd love to hear your take on his story and personality. Big fan of yours by the way.
I disagree with the "eggs to make an omelet" analogy. Eggs aren't unborn chicken if they aren't fertilized.
Normally they aren't but if get them from hens that are around roasters there's a chance that they could be. For anyone who's concerned. Chickens sometimes eat eggs and their shells for the protein and calcium.
mEnStRuAtIoN iS mUrDeR
The "eggs to make an omelet" analogy is very commonly used by mob bosses in gangster movies, such as Pulp Fiction, though nobody said it in that film, lol!
I already said it in the comment I pinned but I'll make a reply here considering this is the most upvoted comment regarding what I said. Apparently it's common knowledge, but for whatever reason I was unaware (it's obvious now) that an egg is not an unborn chicken. Regardless of that fact, I'm pretty sure you all know what I was getting at, and you could replace the egg analogy with frying up a steak or something similar if you'd like. Sorry about the blunder!
@@TheVileEye Oh, absolutely. Great video none the less !
Have you ever considered doing an analysis on Andrew Detmer from Chronicle? It has one of the best falls from grace I can recall from a movie.
Definitely. It can also be viewed in the lens of “power corrupts “.
I think a wrong-doer who commits villainy out of pure ignorance of morals is worse than one who does so fully aware of his evil deeds.
worse in what aspect? ignorance of morality is a acquitting factor, you can't be held morally responsible for something you didn't know was wrong, and presumably once you are able to understand the evil behind an action a good or not evil man would stop, someone who knows what they are doing is evil would be considered worse, because then it's less of a tragic incident of life like a natural disaster or civilians getting killed in war
Its the difference between an evil act being committed by a fully cognizant and aware person or a mentally handicapped person with no awareness of right and wrong or how their actions affect others
Being on the ASPD spectrum doesn't mean that you feel no empathy or remorse at all. Sociopaths are just really good at rationalizing their evil deeds. This doesn't mean though that they're immune to feeling guilt over accidents or unexpected consequences of their actions. It hits most of them a LOT harder than anything bad they intended to do!
You're quite knowledgable about how sociopaths feel 🤔
@@ninakore Sociopaths are easy to understand as they are pretty similar to normal people and most of them were probably even born as such, but they went through a lot... Psychopaths are however a different breed entirely. They are born different and they don't feel the same way you do. They can laugh off nearly dying to your actions, but may never forgive if you ruin their sense of control. They can be more rational in most aspects of life and yet they are really weird.
Heyyy can you go on about psycho/sociopathy???
@@edi9892 you got imsta??
@@pokermaster-wl8bt no
Hope the residents of Sin City get this treatment.
The quote at the end about the tyranny of evil men is one of the coldest things ever said in movie history always will be a favorite
Today I learned the Vile Eye does not understand how Eggs work, and believes store bought eggs are "unborn chickens."
A break down like this is why this channel is so great.
Finally, Jules is one of my favorite characters of all time. And this is one of my favorite movies. Thank you for doing this.👍
This is basically "Second Chances, the Movie" when you really think about it.
Thank you for this! Pulp Fiction is among my absolute favorite movies of all time. I have a list of films that are all my number 1 favorite, it just depends on what day you ask me, and this is one of them. I think you did a great job in analyzing the evil of this brilliant piece of cinema history. And again, thank you for taking the time to analyze the movie. It really means a lot to me.
Vile Eye definitely needs to do a Video for The Reservoir Dogs
And The Hateful Eight
A Hateful Eight analysis would be a blast
Mr Blonde is a disturbing person no wonder he and his brother Vincent Vega got killed.
One of my favourite moments is the lyrics of the song when Bruce is about to hit Ving Rhames, "It's good to see you, I must go, I know I look a fright" lol.
1) thank you for explaining the word banal because it saved me a Google
2) you perfectly described the reaction I have to graphic depictions of violence or hate versus the nonchalant passivity of cruelty.
In the sopranos when Tony calls his nephew(I think that's who he was I forget) to help him dismember the body of his friend who he'd just killed, and they've got him in a bathtub and go to grab his hair to cut off his head his hairpiece comes off. they both just pause and have a weird exchange of, "did you know he was balding?" "no he covered it well" or whatever and got some reason that really messed me up. not the murder, not the disposal. the relaxed way they react to discovering this incredibly personal secret the victim had and how upset he'd have been for them to be realizing this knowledge.
I LOVE that you analyzed several characters from one of my favorite films! You did not disappoint, my friend. Your comments have got me thinkin' and I thank you!
We see everyone have some sort of "code" except Maynard and Zed. Vincent is loyal because he doesn't want to sleep with Mia and doesn't want her to die (I think it's more than just self preservation) Marcellus and Butch are honorable because they help each other despite trying to kill each other (Butch helps Marcellus and Marcellus forgives him throwing the fight.) Jimmy loves his wife and doesn't want to get f*cking divorced and will help so long as that doesn't happen. Jules is respectful towards his elders (Marcellus and Winston) and, while sadistic (Ezk 25:17) he doesn't think giving someone's wife a foot massage is an offense that should get you thrown out a window.
Analyzing Evil: John Bolton.
Cracking an egg is not frying up an unborn chicken because the egg hasn't been fertilised into becoming a chicken, it is just an egg.
The movie also showed the ineptitude that often goes along with evil. There are a few criminal geniuses, but mostly…criminals aren’t geniuses, and they make the equivalent mistakes as realizing they forget their work ID badge at home, messing up a supply order, etc.
Analysing Evil suggestions :
1.Eric Cartman
2.Lorne Malvo(Fargo)
3.VM Varga(Fargo)
It would be better for him to make a one big vid about Fargo villains, including the movie
Really surprised that Eric Cartman hasn't been covered yet
I think Negan from TWD would be good for a future episode. Pretty tragic back story, endless evil acts. Seems perfect. Not the biggest TWD fan but his character made me love it!
To add to Jules and brett, he literally eats bretts final meal and greedily drinks the last of his soda.
Indifference is one of the worst forms of evil.
Films such as "Pulp Fiction" prove why having a "likable" character in a film is not a necessity to have great characters. None of the characters in this film are likeable or good to really any degree, but they're so interesting to follow that you're willing to overlook the heinous acts they all commit because you're intrigued by who they are and how they view their actions.
The biggest problem with this movie is the fact that Mia does a big ass line of coke and then is hungry enough to eat a burger. Ain’t no wayyyyyyyy lil nephew
Thank you for covering the characters of Pulp Fiction, great job of breaking down the complexities of these characters. I was excited to watch this episode because Pulp Fiction is easily one of my five favorite movies.
You should cover begbie or the whole cast of trainspotting
Begbie definitely.
Oh yeah damn I forgot about that movie.
Everyone is evil. The way we deny this truth is by always comparing ourselves to others that are "more evil"
Is this opinion based on Christian Original Sin or cynicism? Evil is something some people do, not their whole identity. Some people do evil, others do good and still, others do "morally grey" or neutral stuff, such as smoking pot, having group sex, or gambling in Vegas.
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Great analysis! Really put into words the unspoken feeling this film has always left me with.
Marvin's death was an accident, but Wolf discussing body disposal over the phone says something like "nobody who'll be missed". They didn't wish him dead, which is probably why he was allowed to leave the apartment alive, but his death is now just a problem of body disposal and cleaning up blood and viscera.
Vincent was also a total dumbass when it comes to handling guns. Not only did he negligently shoot Marvin in the face in that one scene, but he leaves his MAC-10 lying around on a counter in Butch's apartment while he was in the bathroom, which led to his death at Butch's hands. I shouldn't have to explain to anyone here why it's a bad idea to just leave a loaded firearm lying around where anyone could come along and pick it up.
Dracula would be a great one to do next. Nicholas cage has been in a lot of films. Mandy and Wickerman and now Renfield. Dracula in Castlevania and Dracula from all the older mediums have two different perspective observations altogether it seems. Maybe the concept of Dracula himself.
I never made the connection but, the response to the body clean up now strangely reminds me of the situations in the corporate world where someone messes up. Heck, the Wolf even plays the part of an outside consultant or specialist brought in to salvage the situation.
Once you pointed it out, it really made clear the job parallels.
Everybody knows the most evil thing in this movie was the selling of a $5 Milkshake.
Here’s some requests…
Lagoon Company from Black Lagoon
Emperor Belos from The Owl House
Death from Puss In Boots The Last Wish
The Deadites from The Evil Dead
The High Table from John Wick
And
Micky and Mallory Knox from Natural Born Killers
A great one one of my favorite films! But please please Vile you must definitely do one on Nina Meyers from “24.” To me one of, if not the best, villain in the history of TV. And to quote Jack Bauer the worst kind of traitor, a traitor who believes in nothing.
Suggestions:
Jordan Belfort (Wolf of Wall Street)
Homelander (The Boys)
Stormfront (The Boys)
Chris McLean (Total Drama Franchise)
Magneto (X-Men)
Daniel Hardman (Suits)
Loki (MCU)
Banal evil is very common in the workplace. Abuse of power, overworking, hostile work environment. All these are just viewed as “cracking eggs” to make the omelette and not necessarily as activities to rebel in.
a character I would love to see an analyzing evil episode on would be Isaac from castlevania his character arc and development throughout is great
This movie is one of the greatest, but I'll never give up on requesting Flowers in the Attic and We Need to Talk about Kevin.
Did it ever occur to you that Vile Eye hasn't done those movies or characters because they're bad suggestions? Maybe do something else with your life...I don't know.
@@williammccormick984 He could go play on the highway?
@Fred Bloggs I mean, that's dark man. Maybe just suggest other movies instead?
@William McCormick it is not that serious. Go fuck yourself.
The whole film is about the rescuing of the soul. Everyone who had a change of heart lived and everyone who remained bad died (even Mia was dead for a bit). Julius found God and got out of the life, the diner robbers had their lives spared after the talk with Julius and not robbing the place, Butch went back for Wallace, and Wallace spared Butch as repayment for saving his life.
Thank you for showing this classic some love.
I understand your argument that the lack of sadism and thought about the violence makes someone less evil.
However, I don't think it makes a person who does evil or bad things not themselves evil.
While satisfaction is not drawn directly from comitting violence, it is drawn indirectly from the pay, career advancement and sense of purpose that comes with it. Were these violent crimes the only realistic means of earning enough money to live off, or done in defence of a person/people/ideal that could not be defended through other means, then that would be different, as there would be some element of weighing up good and evil. However this is not really discussed, for the characters discussed, not falling into the habits of banal/casual evil would have been a viable option.
If you are dealing with other people, to not consider and attribute some value to their wellbeing is at least laziness, and putting the happiness you derive (inderectly) that far above the wellbeing of others is an evil act.
I like these anthologies of evil (rate one on Unforgiven remains my all time favourite) One minor quibble. Doing casual evil is more anxious to eating a chicken sandwich rather than cracking an egg. Most eggs are unfertal8zed so no living being is killed cracking them. But a chicken definitely died so I could have a sandwich.
Have you considered doing one on Dracula? OrDr. Frankenstein? If you've done them already I just need the link.
Evil Pulp Fiction be like:
“I’m in chronological order”
I agree that the three men in the basement are the three most evil people in the entire film. Everybody else was basically just doing their job and or looking out for themselves.
I'm genuinely so happy you tackled the entire film rather than a central character.
There isn’t a central character
How did you see the gimp as a villain and not as a victim? He was literally in a locked crate when he was on a leash, and they changed him to a post like a dog. He didn’t even have a name. He was just the gimp. Also, when she is alone with Bush, he’s laughing saying they are about to take his place. He was laughing because he thought he was finally free of his torture.
I said possibly the Gimp because his role in their little dungeon is unknown. I figured the fact that he was laughing at Butch/Marcellus as Zed and Maynard were abusing them was an indicator that he might be a part of it. Either that or he has a serious case of Stockholm syndrome. Either could be true!
As near as I can see, the Gimp was a Slave to the other two and certainly seems intellectually challenged.
He was as much of a victim as Butch, Marcellus and the (probably) many other people that the other two tortured and murdered.
@@TheVileEye think about it like this, bro you have been looking at a lot of evil characters in fiction. People who have treated others as cruel as humanly possible when has someone who is been in control of the situation being locked in a crate and strong up like a dog? He didn’t even look them in the eyes when they talked to them, and when he was brought out of his cage, he was on his knees, indicating his submissive role. Hell it’s literally in his name the gimp that’s the way that they call sex slaves.
The Man In A Box was a cartoon wild card to essentially a cartoon movie. Which, I still like. It has moments of "reality" as if these narcissistic and zero self aware creatures in the Tarantino Universe temporarily have moments of sentience, empathy.
The Gimp IS evil. You can't keep a grown man under a pawnshop with an off duty security guard or cop involved. He is voluntarily there, a sicko. That is not banal evil Butch and Marcellus stumbled upon. They found true evil...hidden, depraved, sick. In that setting, their mere dog-eat-dog evil was noble. Courage, loyalty, sacrifice, square deals, honor, justice, even forgiveness was enabled. These were the true scum of the earth, and they would now destroy and punish it for committing evil for no other reason than depravity. Their 'evil' was about survival, prospering in an unfair world. Almost necessary evil, hence it's banality.
@@kingMadnus True, but this situation is a bit different in my opinion. because of the nature of his imprisonment, and the way he behaves, we have no way of knowing whether or not this is a type of extreme consensual kink, which is rare, but still possible. Submissiveness like the type he displays here is pretty common in those types of relationships, so it's not necessarily a sign that he's held there against his will. Even being silent could be a part of it, which might be why he seems intellectually challenged as well @Michael O'Donnel. And again, the way he acts otherwise could indicate his involvement. However, like I said, it's just a possibility. Now I say this because that's how ambiguous it appears in the film, and it's my mistake that I didn't research it further but apparently Quentin Tarantino said this in an interview regarding the Gimp:
“It doesn’t quite play this way in the movie, but in my mind when I wrote it, the Gimp’s dead. Butch knocked him out and then when he passed out he hung himself. In terms of backstory, he was like a hitchhiker or somebody that they picked up seven years ago, and they trained him so he’s the perfect victim.”
So you're correct. However at face value I couldn't help but point out the possibilities surrounding his character due to the little information we're given in the film. Thanks for the discourse, I do get things wrong sometimes and I appreciate the correction!
I love how the like is actuator “Mr. 9mm here..” but you corrected it to being “Mr. .45” like it should be lol
I love that you include the motivations and values of the characters and not just judge them purely based on their actions.
Should do a video on Megatron from Transformers
You don't have to "enjoy" killing to be evil. You just have to be ok with it.
-"Who's Zed?"
-" Zed's dead baby."
In the movie Wild Hearts w/ Christian Slater Gary Oldman mentions going in to another man's house and being confident / comfortable enough to eat can give the impression of being relaxed or utterly fearless.
I really would like to see Albert Wesker featured on this list eventually
Such a cool villain
Seconded. He's one of the greatest villains I've ever seen.
@@commodus2715 ever? Wtf
I love this content. It’s so fun to watch.