I find Lotso's fate to be worse than death actually. There's a good chance that he could be tied to that truck for decades, slowly deteriorating, surrounded by other toys that he hates, unable to move and far too dirty and unnappealing for a child to ever want him. He started at the top and completely plummeted to rock bottom.
That's slightly undermined by the fact that the other toys who he's stuck with seem pretty decent and probably haven't done anything wrong, and almost certainly nothing as close to what Lotso himself got up to.
And he also lost all the comfort and control he had at sunnyside, something that he can never get back now that Barbie and Ken are the new reasonable leaders of sunnyside after he was done away with and also likely banished from the daycare.
Honestly surprised you didn’t talk about Syndrome’s death. Not only is it super satisfying to see him get what he deserves but it’s also a great call back for when Bob got his new suit. One which favored practicality and effectiveness for superhero work over aesthetics. Syndrome cared more about looking like a hero then being one and that’s why he died.
my big problem with Syndrome is that he had this huge robot plan, but then resorts to just kidnapping the baby and the plot just becomes the "rescue the family member" thing that literally despicable me 4 did (and I hated) I don't mind the robot gaining a life of its own and brutally murdering Syndrome and the main climax is stopping the robot. That is a nice analogy of how A.I. can gain a life of its own and that the cool edgy "tech people" using it to approximate true intelligence and hard work will only bring about the downfall of everyone in the process. To be clear that's not my actual full stance on the issue of A.I. but it would be super compelling. The path the movie takes comes frustratingly short of its full potential.
@illusory-illusionist... You do realize that the movie came out long before these discussions about the possible issues with Tech bros AI were even around, right?
And it was used very effectively too. Unlike most villain monologue that just happen just 'cause, this is one started as a quick plan by Mr. Incredible to buy himself time to potential get the upper hand in the situation. There's actual tension and anticipation building up in the scene.
@@dcd3lt4 Also Buddy actually knows Mr. Incredible so it’s not like he’s just spewing out his plan because plot. He’s reveling in the evil genius role that Bob turned him into.
Plus, the movie sets it up so well in the beginning, too. When Frozone and Mr. Incredible are sitting in the car, Frozone is telling a story in an exasperated tone about how he beat a villain because he started monologuing. It established that heroes actively trick villains into monologuing and think they're dumb for it in this universe
i think people reading the incredibles as "people who are born special are better" are missing the fact that, like, syndrome COULD be a hero if he wanted to. he's an inventor with a vast fortune, dude could basically pull an iron man if he wanted to. but instead he buys a private island and spends all his time killing off supers so he can prove himself better than them.
Basically, he's kinda a truly evil Megamind counterpart, think about it. Their villiany (or, in case of Megamind, "villiany") comes from the rejection, both of them don't have any physical powers, both tried to kill someone who has those powers and thus prove themselves to be better then them and receive affection. Speaking of Megamind, Syndrome only shows how terrifying of a villian could've Megamind be if he turned... Well, actually bad.
It's not Syndrome that this reading comes fro, but Dash and Bob who keep talking about the importance of being great and how the phrase "everyone is special" is another way of saying "no-one is". Buddy and the guy who sued Mr Incredible for saving him just come across as the embodiments of the jealousy of ordinary people towards actual special people when those things are remembered.
yeah and Edna's entire existence is proof he could've done something better. Edna knows how important she and her work of fashioning super suits are (especially with the no-cape moment showing how she stops supers from coming up with life-threatening design mistakes), and clearly enough people were threatened by her to the point she has a safeguard system in case someone tries to force themselves into her workshop syndrome could have been using that power and money to help put supers back on the menu along with himself but naaah being a serial killer is a way better idea
As an adult you look back and realize sid was absolutely an abused kid. From the way he takes his frustration out on toys, bullying his sister, all the locks on his bedroom door and especially the scene where the dog chases buzz into the room but leaves just by seeing the dad sleeping there surrounded by empty cans
And it’s just not his dad. His mom also plays a part in the way he acts in the original film. While she might not abuse him, she does enable his violent behavior like letting him play unsupervised with matches and letting him skateboard all the way to Pizza Planet by himself and back home instead of just driving there and dropping him off and coming back to pick him up. Heck, even though Hannah tries to tell on him to her when he mutilates one of her toys, I highly doubt she interferes in their any of their arguments or even stops him from stealing and mutating her dolls. Hannah’s probably the only normal family member in the Philips household and sadly has to put up with such a dysfunctional family life.
I mean, he's not a very nice person either, but he definitely isn't evil. I couldn't see him actually hurting anyone or commiting some horrible crime. He's just an extremely egotistical, creepy man who's whole job is to judge the work of other people, and he's really good at doing it.
just that line. I don't like FOOD I LOVE IT. He was seriously dedicated to his craft/criticism. Makes it all the more heartwarming when he takes a bite of ratatouille and you see the life come back in his eyes.
He's not even a bad food critic he's an honest one who isn't afraid to write an honest review, even if it's not what he personally wanted. If they wanted him to be a villain they would show him loving the food and then still writing a bad review, but no he loves it and he's not afraid to admit it because he's a good critic. He's not even upset that they proved him wrong he's excited to give his compliments to the chief
omg YES. I remember, as a kid, the first time I saw that scene, I need it time to process that I understood the right way. I was shocked, just like mr incredible, because it's such a dark discovery
As someone who owns one of those Lotso plushies, the way I see it is I'm just cuddling a _different_ Lots-o'-Huggin' Bear. -Like the one he got replaced with.-
as someone who also owned one of these and (apparently) screamed my head off seeing TS3 in theaters, I just had no object permanence whatsoever. glad to know I'm not the only one lol
Could you imagine being that guy, not knowing you were replacing somebody else in your owner's life, and that person turns out to be a horrible man because you were chosen to replace him in his absence?
My favorite part about Syndrome is that he was so obsessed with Mr Incredible that he didn’t realize he was a super too. His power was just his super intelligence. A great lesson in the dangers of jealousy and obsession
Interestingly enough, there are many theories about Syndrome's parents being supers. There might have even been one theory about Gazerbeam being Syndrome's father.
I don't think his intelligence is a superpower rather than a byproduct of his hyper focused obsession with usurping Mr. incredible. Said obsession leads him to be blind of what he can accomplish despite not having powers aswell.
I think he definitely knew that 😂 it's just that people didn't see that his super genius was a super power so he felt incredibly (pun intended) discriminated against and felt divided from heroes "you killed off real superheroes so you could pretend to be one?" "Oh I'm real. Real enough to beat you!"
Yeah it was all pov with Syndrome when he was a kid that got him to be against superheroes Mr.Incredible said ‘“fly home buddy I work alone focusing mainly on the villain making sure he doesn’t get away In Syndrome’s head: *Mr. Incredible glares at him with hate* fly home buddy I work alone😒
The reason I love Chick Hicks is because the absurdity of him not being disqualified for his pushing other cars. It’s not like it’s a once time thing or anything. It’d be like a marathon runner beating the shit out of anyone who tries to go past him, while the Marathon organizers just watch and don’t intervene.
And you know they let him off the hook because brutality brings in the views. Plenty of fans who love to see car crashes and stuff. The hosts just turn a blind eye.
Wouldn't surprise me if car racing is more of a "contact sport" in the cars world, not necessarily allowed in the rules but not as heavily enforced as it should be, like what I understand of hockey before the rules against fighting were properly enforced. It also would've brought in viewer attention, of course.
I think my favorite thing about Waternoose is that his downfall isn’t him just explaining his plan to the protagonist, but him realistically trying to justify his actions to Sully and saying something completely unhinged that also makes sense for him to say in the moment
Something Schaff didn't talk about was how Waternoose was also fixated on solving the energy crisis. Even as he's being taken away, he still believes he's in the right.
Yeah that's what makes that scene work vs the one in Coco (I haven't seen Coco so this is just based on Schaff describing it here). The kidnap a thousand children line is not a muahaha gloating evil villain moment, it's the climax of a genuine argument scene, which just makes it all the better a gotcha of a reveal afterward. Just another way Monsters Inc does the twist villain blueprint perfectly with him
I like how on the segway numbers are just random soundclips and memes that reference the chacrater, but when it gets to Chick Hicks it's just him saying his legendary catchphrase.
One thing I always liked about the Incredibles is that Bob says that he doesn’t keep in touch with any of the heros from his past. This is used as a way of telling him that’s because they’ve moved on and settled into their ordinary lives. But the reveal shows us that they haven’t been keeping in touch because they’ve died. It also shows us that they didn’t move on. Syndrome hired them for hero work, and they all accepted because they wanted to be heros again.
The scene with Lotso in TS3 when he tells baby “she don’t love you no more” and crushes the little heart … it literally made such an impact on me as a kid that it’s the first thing I remember when I think of that movie. Just the line delivery, the pure callousness of it, it literally struck fear into my heart as a child.
The way the baby reacts to it as well makes it feel like Lotso is abusing an actual infant. It is honestly so horrifying due to how real it feels. Using a child as an punching bag for his own bitterness.
That’s one of my favorite parts of Cars 3 tbh, like after a literal DECADE this guy not only hasn’t gotten off the high of that one Piston Cup win, but also has probably seen every Piston Cup race that Lightning won and just stewed in his hatred for him all that time. It’s hilarious.
The funniest thing about Randall’s design, I think, is when you look at him squinting, you’d take that as a frowny, evil face that’s a part of his overall character But when you get to Monster’s University, and you see him there, you’re like, oh, he can’t see well without glasses, that’s why
I hated how he is just a generic bully. Thats one of the things that made the movie worse. Withouth the generic bullies, the film could have been better. But not, the message was terribly delibered. The fact that Sully and Mike went into Monster Inc, withouth a diploma, is insulting. You dont become doctor withouth finishing the university.
@@sully42O The message that is tring to say is poorly delibered for how inconsistent it is. First, Why cant Mike scare? Why the movie ends with monsters that are less frightening than Mike, that the one with the glasses or the purple one, being able to join the scarier program? Not that they cant scare? If so, then Mike can. Second. Thse movie has two bullies, the generic one and a Principal director. An educator should never ever tell an studient that he cant do things, like never. Also the problem lies that all thse people that bullied and downgrade Mike, the bully, the studients, the director. All these antagonists that were just mean to him. They won. Its extremly frustrating. specialy at the end of the competicion. When Mike has that flashback of all those people telling him that he cant be this and how he express angry to shout and scary the robot. And all these, was for nothing. All these people that downgrade him won at the end. The message the movie tied to do was poorly delibered cause of that. Also, Being scarier and going to Monsters Inc, really implied that you need to go to an university first. Well clearly dont. So yeah, it really insults all profesions like doctor, pysocologist, and other carrers jobs, that require a diploma.
@@fredy2041 dude people are liking my comment bc they probs didn’t like how you were coming off as a total academic snob. Your point about the villains was subjective and without an argument so I didn’t really care enough to comment on that part, but I thought it was weird how you called the no diploma aspect “insulting” like huh? I personally think it’s a pretty cool message to send to kids that you don’t need college to achieve your dreams bc you don’t always. Some kids are just not suited for an academic environment and some know that they will just probably not be able to afford going to college. It’s not insulting to tell these kids that they can still be happy and work their ways up in non conventional ways. What mfing doctor or psychologist watched Monsters University was insulted by that message? 😭😭😭 Being a scarer is no way equivalent to those kinds of jobs, scarers are not responsible for the physical and emotional well-beings of others, so that’s a really weird takeaway imo. My future (hopefully) career requires me to do a PHD but I’m not gna be insulted bc a children’s movie didn’t preach the importance of a college-level education like let’s stay playful.
What I like about Sydrome is that when his actual plan failed, he didn't just give up and ran away instead he decided to kidnap Jack Jack for no other reason than to hurt Bob one last time.
That's the sign of a true supervillain right there. Putting extreme pittiness over his own safety. Instead of escaping to continue his plotting to destroy all heroes another day, he escaped and decided to kidnap Bob's baby with the intention of raising him to hate his father. Proving at his last moments that his grand plan to end the very concept of supers was just an extensión of his obsesion with Bob, the only thing that really mattered to him was make him suffer. He would have been a terrible sideckick, but he sure have the makings of a real achnemesis.
Syndrome is a great villain, but I believe there are way better villains. His introduction is just a little rushed in my opinion and I liked Randall more.
Is it me or Brad Bird movies villains are always goofy morons? I know it's not a Pixar movie, but The Iron Giant is probably the best exemple. The movie really hammer the fact that Mansley isn't just malicious, he's a complete dumbass.
@@bowserbreaker2515Randall falls a little for me because he can't really pose a direct threat to all characters. Every confrontation he has is with Mike or Boo, because Sully could realistically tear him in half. With Syndrome, he would also be beaten physically, but he doesn't have to fight physically. Zero point energy is just that absurd that he poses a threat
@@jstar3382 Fair enough. But I still like Randall more. But my favorite Pixar villain might be Chef Skinner. His crazy persistence combined with watching a man slowly lose his mind is really funny.
In the case of Hopper I like how both he and Flick use seeds to symbolize other ants and their potential. It is such an amazing way to tie the ideologies of both hero and villain as well as the theme of the story.
I think Ernesto de la Cruz kept the photo of Hector was definitely an ego thing. He pulled of Hector’s murder and got so cocky he put it into one of his movies. By having his security toss Hector and Miguel into the cenote and keeping the photo, Ernesto essentially killed Hector twice now. You get your ass that egomaniac is going to keep that photo as a momento
Agreed. I feel like so many people wrote off villains as being bad for not making rational choices, forgetting the writers are often trying to show how things like pride and ego are negative traits that ultimately lead to a villains downfall.
@@LateNightTableCo Sometimes there's no winning. A character can't do everything right or else they're unbelievable, but then when the characters do make bad decisions they're criticized for being stupid and creating plotholes.
@@SpaceJawaIt’s not even unrealistic. There are real live examples of killers getting caught because they let information slip (even directly to cops) because they thought they could never be caught. I mean why would OJ write a book called “If I Did It”, after he already got away with murder instead of laying low.
I feel like Gus Fring from Breaking Bad is a good example of this; his one irrational decision of going to kill Hector directly leads to his immediate downfall.
@@Treeeee2008I mean, yeah. Maybe it depends on your age and/or how many works of fiction you've consumed by the time you first watched Toy Story 3. The "overly nice old guy" shtick is a fairly common trope for villains. Honestly it's more impressive to me that they managed to show the necessary details to point towards it so well through animation.
Another funny foreshadowing is that scene where Mike is trying to hide from Randall, only for him to reveal himself _blending in with a portrait of Waternoose._ Like he straight-up takes on his eyes. That's so crazy in hindsight.
There's an argument to be made that Mr. Potato Head is the true villain of TS1. It's established pretty early on that he doesn't respect Woody or his authority, and seems bitter about Woody's status as favorite toy, and everything he does revolves around that resentment. So once Buzz shows up and the opportunity to tear Woody down and provoke a rivalry with Buzz keeps presenting itself, Potato Head takes it every time (his constant goading on Woody during Buzz's introduction, "Yeah! Like the attic!", etc) It's him who incites everyone to turn on Woody after Buzz is knocked out the window, where his resentment really comes up to the surface ("What happens if Andy starts playing with ME more, huh? You gonna knock me out the window too?"). Once he's gotten rid of Woody, he keeps foiling escape/rescue attempts to keep it that way (they're in Sid's house, known toy mutilator, and yet he accuses Woody of tearing Buzz's arm off. Siccing the other toys on Woody in the moving van and refusing to hear him out that he's trying to save Buzz.) He's also never shown regretting his actions like Rex and Slinky do. The shot of RC flying into the moving van and slamming into him feels deliberately framed as Potato Head being given his comeuppance. Mrs. Potato Head's arrival mellows him out, since now he has something to focus on besides his resentment towards Woody and finally comes to regret it in TS2 ("oh you had to bring THAT up.")
Fun fact that might interest a whole three people: The German dub translates Syndrome's line "I'm still geeking out about it!" with "Mir stehen noch immer die Haare zu Berge!" which translates to "My hair is still standing up like a mountain!" which is both a pretty popular phrase to show excitement but is also an obvious pun making fun of his hairdo.
"the twist villain car's plan is so convoluted and so stupid that it's kind of delightful" Thank you for summarizing why there are fans of Cars 2 and why I am one of them.
yea this is basically the summation of cars 2 for me, it's a delightful trainwreck of a film, and i enjoy it more than like 5 other pixar films for that reason
The whole appeal for Cars 2 was more the spy stuff than the actual story, and even then it's so corny and stupid when the whole movie is just Mater torture, it's a "so bad it's good" movie imo
Cars 2 is stupid, broken, shit, very stupid, has probably one of the best OSTs Michael Giacchino has ever concocted (It's Finn McMissile! goes way harder than it should). That being said I adore this shitshow
Fun fact: Lightning McQueen couldn’t have crossed the line before helping the King because then it would be counted as outside help and the King would have been disqualified, but when McQueen is still racing it just counts as a bump draft or collision
@@neko-love60Even if he sped and turned around to quickly help, Chick still would have won. I think he knew that and just took his time rather than try to rush it, because if he did rush, it would seem like he cared more about the race than helping someone who was hurt.
well no because each time he went to court he got cleared. For example Anthony Rapp sued him but it was proven in court that Rapp lied because the room he said Spacey made advances on him was discovered to have not existed
Pixar is the type of company to make absolute masterpieces of bad guys before making an absolute travesty of villains before remembering they’re supposed to be one of the most respected animation studios of all time and makes another masterpiece of a villain. Same goes for their movies as a whole
@@connorlove9149 “‘Fly home, Buddy. I work alone.’” “It tore me apart. But I learned an important lesson that day: you can’t count on ANYONE. Especially your heroes.”
“To answer that, we need to talk about parallel universes.” That caught me so off guard and was so freaking hilarious , I love it when people reference that iconic line.
Hopper was seared into my brain as a child. He gave me a true sense of cruelty and malice, and I understood the difference between good and evil. It made the hero feel important.
40:06 Pixar villains who HAVE died: Hopper- eaten alive by baby bird Randall- beaten to death by a shovel Syndrome- sucked by jet turbine and blown up Auto- shut down by captain Muntz- fell to his death after his foot was snagged on a few balloons Mordu- crushed by giant boulder Earl/Thunderclap- piece of wood thrown to the head by dino boy, causing him down a waterfall Ernesto de la Cruz- crushed by giant bell (twice) Zurg- blown up after Buzz shot the crystalic fusion core
ever since coco came out I've always wondered if he died under that bell. like did he just get crushed but was forced to continue "living" until everyone forgot him? or did he truly die a second time?
Something interesting I noticed during this video is that Chick Hicks has tons of what is probably sponsors in his sides which is such a clever addition to his design you can tell just by looking at his design that he is only in it for fame and money
i never noticed just HOW many sponsors Chick had until watching this video. McQueen has a a couple too, but its only like, 14 stickers on his side, plus the main Rust-eze. While Chick is COVERED in stickers
also his main sponsor is called "hostile takeover bank" of all things, display of greed just written on his hood the entire movie, it works very well. cars was a pretty alright movie, shame they never made a sequel
@@Rarest26 raid can at least be fun with their sponsors, like Caddicarus' sponsor segments are pretty fun. Chick Hicks will take any sponsor. like that scam owning land one, or better help, or just anything willing to pay him
20:15 I would argue that Lightning letting Chick win was actually a better move from a pragmatic perspective. Lightning had that race in the bag, and everyone knew it. By stopping just before literally winning he publicly proved that he valued helping someone else more than his own victory. That kind of PR is difficult to come by, and the only thing he had to give up was the cup itself. In the long run that goodwill was a better investment, and would’ve made him a fortune had he chosen to take Dineco’s offer.
And also considering the scene literally shows mcqueen thinking about doc hudson crash in 54 when the king crash implying that mcqueen was thinking and remembering what doc went through
i joined a cars fan discord years ago and popped back in after not talking for nearly a year to say "hey chick hicks gives off divorced energy" and people were like "yeah that tracks"
What helps waternoose’s twist is also the fact that he was trying to fix a legit problem, as he explained that simply scaring children wasn’t enough anymore Not only that, the company is what gives energy to the whole town, meaning he had a good reason to not want the company to go under
@@stephenkrahling1634 _"I'll kidnap _*_a thousand_*_ children before I let this company die, and I'll silence anyone who gets in my way!"_ He didnt even like Randal, but he was desperate in saving the company he went along with his barbaric scheme/contraption. (The scream extractor, which is torture as shown by being strapped + Fungus)
And when he's arrested, things aren't automatically good. Sully's clearly upset that he had to put the company he's been trying to keep afloat on the line for hurting kids like Boo, and everyone who works at Monsters Inc is terrified that they'll be out of a job when the factory is closed. It's nice bit of realism for the situation.
You know what’s crazy- when I was a kid I always really liked Mr Waternoose. He was so warm and kind for so long, he never became scary for baby me. Honestly fantastic
I think it's because unlike, say, Lotso, Waternoose was never putting up a façade. He WAS a kind and warm guy and he genuinely did like Sulley. He was just hiding some skeletons in the closet
I... They.... THEY SPENT HOW MUCH ON LIGHTYEAR?!?!?! You're pulling my leg, you're yankin' my chain, you're... Uh... You're dribbling my biscuits! No possible way, man.
Zerg in Lightyear is literally just Goob! Thats literally who he is! “Well done, Lightyear!” “Wanna come to my training pod later?” “…they all HATED me!”
What I love about Hopper is he’s essentially just the leader of a military dictatorship. He’s probably also the most well written military dictatorship leaders in fiction too and he’s from a Pixar movie.
The best part about Hopper is that he's the one character in the film who knows the "message" of the movie from the start, that being "the ants can beat the grasshoppers". He's not this arrogant bully who mistreats others because an opportunity presents itself. He knows perfectly well that he's actually outmatched, he has no chance to win if the ants realize what their own strength is. His actions all serve the singular purpose, not of "getting food" or "bullying the weak for shits and giggles", but of preventing that realization in the ants. He walks the tightrope of a lifestyle that could end - and potentially kill him - at any point and he's using every trick in the book to boost his odds. When Flick says "the ants are stronger than grasshoppers" and Hopper's mask slips, Flick himself is surprised to say "…and you know that". Beautiful.
Honestly, one of the most memorable Syndrome moments for me wasn’t even from the main movie, but from the DVD special “Jack-Jack Attack.” He tried to bluff Kari the babysitter, talking in a more subdued voice while still wearing most of his costume, and it’s delightfully goofy. It also happens to be where the “You Dense Mother…” meme comes from.
I love how the bear from Brave is just the bar for antagonist. Like, would you rather have [insert villain] or a bear as the antagonist for your movie is a great litmus test.
I don't know if it's from Waternoose. I think it's probably that some kid brought something like small pox or cholera when it got through the closet and it killed a lot of monsters, so they think that kids are toxic not realizing it was a disease. Many cultures have misallocated disease to either air or water when it was actually bugs or fecal matter in the water
@@strawberryfaes I believe that idea was around in their world for generations, and Waternoose used it to justify kidnapping and torturing children, as well as the whole "save the company" motivation.
I never really saw it that way. I saw the touch thing as Hyperbole, meant to protect the monster world from humans. Maybe early monsters realized that humans were far more dangerous and advanced than they were. So Monsters acted subtly in the human world, only scaring children, to not bring attention. The touch thing was probably justified propaganda to keep monsters from getting too close to the human world and bringing humans closer to the knowledge of their world.
I always saw Ernesto keeping Hector's photo as a sign that, deep DEEP down, he still cares about Hector. Not enough to sacrifice his career and reputation because his of ego (and perhaps insecurity of his talents) but enough that he'd like to keep a photograph of the man who was once his best friend. Who knew him before he got big and famous. To me, Ernesto keeping the photo - going against logical thinking and going off emotions instead - makes him even more interesting of a villain - more human.
That's very clearly what the writers were going for. But ofc big crab man didn't get that. Just like how he didn't get why Lighting McQueen sacrificed the piston cup, because if he would have crossed the finish line, it would mean he still values an "empty old cup" over the legacy of a racing legend. I really enjoy shrafillas, but some of his takes are just goofy.
@@PTS-Maid I feel like Schaff, for a guy who does analysis stuff for a living, likes to prioritize surface-level jokey criticisms of these kinds of scenes over digging deeper and seeing the meaning behind them. He does this quite a bit and I'm not even sure if he does it on purpose
What's interesting is that, in retrospect, all of these are villains who aren't individually threatening. They're not big bad destruction machines, but manipulators who are way scarier because the way they conduct their villainy is so grounded.
“Those puny little ants outnumber us 100 to 1. And if they ever figure that out, there goes our way of life.” And sadly, we as society know that we outnumber the elites, yet refuse to do anything about it. We just complain about it online and hope things get better. 🤡
“Those puny little ants outnumber us a hundred to one. And if they ever figure that out, there goes our way of life.” It’s sad that we all know this is true and yet, we do nothing about it. Instead of standing up to the ruling class and the elites, we just sit around and complain about it. And we continue to vote in the same people into power and hope things will be different this time. Kids have learned nothing from A Bug’s Life.
Here's a thought. If Lightyear is, in-universe, the movie that the Buzz Lightyear line of toys is based on, And if the Zerg toy is Buzz's father. Does this imply that Zerg being old Buzz is canonically so stupid that they retconned him to being Buzz's father instead?
@@chessecontainmentLoonatics wasn't edgy. People who say that probably didn't watch past the first episode. If anything it's a satire of the edgy reboot trope.
Not to mention syndrome was literally going to KIDNAP BOBS BABY! And raise it to be evil!!!! Losing your child is probably one of the greatest fears a parent could have so the fact he was willing to go THAT FAR was also pure evil!
@filmfreakbecky The fact that he was willing to not call off missiles aimed at a jet that had *children* aboard shows how little he cares for any life, young or old. All he cared about was getting revenge for himself, regardless of the innocent lives involved. Absolutely terrifying.
The scene where Lotso chose not to press the button was one of the biggest villain moments of my childhood tbh. It really just showed how some people are just terrible and there’s nothing you can really do about it
@@Delta_Aves_Mashups thats interesting. The fact they went out of their way to MAKE the audience hate lotso is what makes him so good. I love a villain you can't possibly sympathize with.
Yh I think it’s really nice seeing villains who have sympathetic backgrounds but are still held accountable Like, his feelings about his abandonment could’ve gone towards making sure toys in Sunnyside don’t get left to rot but he’s too caught up in hate
20:06 The point of McQueen giving up the victory is the show that he learned there's more to life than just racing and winning! Yeah he could have crossed it and won and then help him but that would sort of kill the impact of McQueen helping Strip Weathers
That speech Hopper gave, absolutely FIRE🔥🔥🔥 “You let one ant stand up to us, then they all might stand up. Those puny little ants outnumber us a hundred to one, and if they ever figure that out, there goes our way of life! It’s not about food, it’s about keeping those ants in line”
Those floods were legitimely scary though, the quick flash of Arlo's dad being dragged away was surprisingly impactful for what the movie had been until then.
A pretty cool detail about Syndrome that, frankly, you needed someone else to point it out to notice it. On the computer, Frozone's location is known to him, and when Mirage were spying on Mr. Incredible and Frozone earlier in the film she said "The fat one is still with him". This means that Frozone was next on Syndrome's list, but once he had the location of his favorite super, he just had to get him to him so he could show off how far he has gotten.
The Omni-droid even leads Bob to a volcano, and in an earlier scene, it was established that Frozone's powers don't work in hot and dry environments. I guess Syndrome was too lazy to change the location of the robot and its path.
@@SecretMagician That's such a good detail! I always knew they were targeting Frozone first, but I never thought about how that volcano area was perfect against him.
Syndrome's behavior and backstory honestly makes him so much better today. We're at an age where anyone can be an online influencer or celebrity with their own community, and with it comes parasocial relationships and entitlement. There's already several cases where entitled people would stalk their favorite youtuber or twitch streamer to assault, hurt, or break into their homes just for attention or because they were rejected of said attention. So Syndrome committing mass genocide over something he NEEDED to hear as a kid (He stalked Mr Incredible and caused a lot of damage by just being at an active crime scene, and he was probably lectured many times by Mr Incredible, his mom, and many authority figures to stop before) makes so much sense
@@leviticusprime4904I feel like he would have been better if he was either not related to Buzz at all and was just a cool, robot warlord, or PRETENDED to be Buzz’s dad like the animated show to really get into his head and psychologically mess with him…But no; we can’t have nice things…
@@leviticusprime4904honestly I think they should’ve just let the lightyear movie have more cheese. I haven’t watched it, but from what I’ve heard and seen from it is that it takes itself far too seriously. I think letting it be more cool and a tad cheesey with Zurg maybe still being Buzz’s father could have honestly worked, but idk I’m not a movie director
I think the fact that Waternoose says the company has been in his family for 4 generations adds a bit more to his character. He doesn’t want to banish Sulley, Sulley was his top scarer, but facing failure and a company that had been in his family for multiple generations made him desperate. He feels bad for what he did but he didn’t want to fail 4 generations of crustaceans, so you kinda get it
Ironically serves to make Waternoose still significantly less evil than most corporate CEOs of today in terms of motive. At least in the fact he had an actual reasoning to his madness and not just "innovating" for the sake of innovation. (which is a really bad reason to innovate.)
@@NeonWasInUse Yeah, even if we can both agree that his actions are wrong, we can sympathize with him because we understand how long this company was with his family. He had a motive, he didn’t just say to the camera, “If I don’t innovate, someone else will” as a certain evil Jurassic World scientist would put it
@@perfectpasta3155 Well I was moreso referring to the ongoing energy crisis and the massive role Monsters Inc. played in monster society at large in regards to that. Forcing Waternoose to take drastic measures. Kids just weren't getting scared like they used to anymore and things were starting to become highly desperate, all the while not having the hindsight to see laughter as alternative energy. Obviously he still did not do a good thing. But at least you could *kinda* see why he was so desperate, because if he let Monsters Inc. go under, he was basically dooming monster society alongside it. That's something I really like about Waternoose. He doesn't just stop at being a good twist villain. He's a twist villain because he didn't have a choice, which is a really interesting take, and makes his actions all the more vile as desperation drives him to say and do progressively more horrible things. Really makes me wonder how the movie would play out if Waternoose had had the hindsight of laughter being an alternative energy source. Would Waternoose have been evil? Would he even have listened to Randal at all? It's an interesting thought.
What I love about the moment when Ernesto gets busted for his true nature was the awkward silence he has and the look on his face over the fact that he unknowingly and single-handedly just ruined his legacy and lost everything. And then he gets crushed by the giant bell again, mimicking his real-life death. Another thing was how his legacy gets ruined in both the land of the dead and the living. In the land of the dead, it was the live stream that he had no idea was going on, but it's what happens in the land of the living. When the following year, the family exposes Ernesto's true nature to the public by using the photo and letters as proof that he indeed stole Hector's works. But it's really when they put up that “forget you" sign over the statue of him on his mausoleum, as even the public now condemns him against his crimes against the Rivera family, thus tarnishing Ernesto's legacy permanently, and then leaving the tomb to decay forever in a permanent state of disrepair to show his fall from grace. But while Ernesto likely still exists in the land of the dead and will also still be remembered in the land of the living, his crimes will forever leave him rejected in both the living and the dead and he will now be remembered as a fraud, a thief, and a murderer; thus ensuring his wish of getting fame, but in the worst way imaginable, now being infamous rather than famous for his true actions, and destined to forever live in the land of the dead in shame and disgrace for a long time, if not for all eternity. And resulting in Hector replacing Ernesto as the village's real musical figure.
@lydiajulianprower8356 Huh?! They are completely different? The only similarity is that it deals with dia de los muertos (the one Mexican holiday that Hollywood remembers)
The least realistic part of Coco isn't life existing after death, it's that Mexico stopped idolizing a celebrity who committed a crime Context: In real life Mexican singer Gloria Trevi made part in human trafficking but she is still successful today and her tours are always full of fans
31:04 I love how this scene cleverly foreshadows Waternoose by having Randall blend into his portrait. Maybe it’s unintentional, but I still find it as a cool touch.
I'd call it definitely intentional, as the visuals of animation require so much more intentionality than live action. You can unintentionally put something in the background of a set in live action that acts as a symbol, but dozens of people put hours of work into that shot of Randall and the Waternoose portrait. There was a reason for it.
I’m really disappointed in Zurg, they just had to turn the ‘EVIL EMPEROR’ into a tragic and extremely self reflective to our hero antagonist, especially when Zurg was fine as an actual villain, and that would make more sense for his title and for the context of this being a movie that led to them making toys
Buzz as Zurg could work- if the movie were a parody of a 90's kids film, and the in-universe actors made fun of it. Early Pixar films used to be highly sarcastic. If you are doing a Buzz Lightyear film, you need to have fun with the idea
I really enjoyed this video! For some reason, I thought I did not watch a lot of Pixar as a kid, but happily, I was able to follow along with the big takeaways. I think there would’ve been a riot if you had chosen anyone else for top spot.
I admire Toy Story 3's symbolism of Lotso's hurt leg. Like Baby's disfigurement, it was a preventable byproduct of his actions that continues to linger. As a storytelling device, it shows his ego by forcing others, such as the construction truck, to bend to his will while visually demonstrating how his or anyone's selfish choices can negatively impact others.
It also serves as an indication of his false, grandfatherly perception at the beginning of the film. But later, we learn that his crutch is both literal and figurative
The sheer waste of premise that Lightyear had was actually pretty crazy. It could have been an insane twist where Buzz is his own father or like, has cloned him, he’s been time traveling for eons just trying and failing to fix this one mistake to the point he’s fucked up the timeline so badly that there’s absolutely no fixing it without eliminating himself from it, you see reality itself start to fall apart the longer Zurgg does so much as talk to his past son/self/clone. Turn it into a film where Buzz learns that being remembered at all would have been better than being remembered as a hero because now he has to be forgotten by everyone to prevent himself from becoming Zurgg. God, they could have made actual sci-fi, but they went with whatever the hell this was.
Honestly Lightyear shouldn't have even existed anyway. But knowing were Pixar is at now, there's a high chance we might get a Woody's Roundup film with the quality on par with Lightyear. Ye haaaaaaa😒
The biggest problem with Zurg is that he invented time travel and didn’t use it to go back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu
I really feel bad for Sid. He was a kid growing up in a toxic, maybe even abusive household - not to mention with a perfectly loving family nextdoor he could compare his to - and expressed himself through his toys, not knowing they were alive, because who would. I like to think he really was the garbage guy in the third movie and moved on to making figures and such with scrap metal and junk.
@@OT_Foundation*realizes anakin is basically William in space* -father of the main protagonist -trapped in a metal suit -metal suit is the only reason they aren’t dead -killed children -new name for when their in their suits (springtrap and Darth Vader) -gets burned after a confrontation with their former close friend (Henry and obi wan)
The Incredibles was the first movie where I remember noticing the score. Even though the scene confused me a bit in terms of details when I first watched it (I couldn’t read) I just knew something terrible was going on because of that score
One thing I kinda like about Chick Hicks is that Lightning McQueen doesn't even defeat him. Like, not just because he doesn't win the Cup, but he literally doesn't do anything to cause his failure. He doesn't expose him as evil like Waternoose or Ernesto, Chick does that to himself. He acts like a complete jackass, publicly assaults a DIFFERENT car he was envious of, and then no one likes him. Just a complete crash and burn of a character, unrelated to Lightning living his best life. Idk I think that's kinda funny.
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Cant beleive The Boss from Incredibles who says "What about our Stockholders Bob? Who's helping them out? HUH!" didnt win, truly a travesty
Yeah I thought that was gonna be the movie with 2 villains because that insurance company is the real life evil
"Y'know, Bob. . . . a company-"
@@tenthdentisttorecommendthe2954 is like a clock ...
@@niccolorichter1488 "Is like an enormous cl-
*Yes,* precisely."
@@tenthdentisttorecommendthe2954 At first i read that as another word... without the "L"...
I find Lotso's fate to be worse than death actually. There's a good chance that he could be tied to that truck for decades, slowly deteriorating, surrounded by other toys that he hates, unable to move and far too dirty and unnappealing for a child to ever want him. He started at the top and completely plummeted to rock bottom.
Absolutely correct. Lotso suffers eternal damnation
That's slightly undermined by the fact that the other toys who he's stuck with seem pretty decent and probably haven't done anything wrong, and almost certainly nothing as close to what Lotso himself got up to.
And he also lost all the comfort and control he had at sunnyside, something that he can never get back now that Barbie and Ken are the new reasonable leaders of sunnyside after he was done away with and also likely banished from the daycare.
And he was specifically tied there because the garbage man had his own Lotso as a kid and loved him that much
Not to mention that eventually, he would run out of that strawberry scent of his
The Earl twist within this video is unironically a better twist than the one in Lightyear
That he’s a predator?
@@rayvenkman2087 That his name isn't Earl, but Thunderclap or something.
I legit forgot there was a villain in good dinosaur.
wait what was good dinosaur about?
@@IHMnotuseless2204 Uhhhh, it was about a really good dinosaur and a random kid in the mix? Idk man, your guess is as good as mine
@@IHMnotuseless2204 they move to a place, and then they move to another place and… hmm? What were we talking about again?
Honestly surprised you didn’t talk about Syndrome’s death. Not only is it super satisfying to see him get what he deserves but it’s also a great call back for when Bob got his new suit. One which favored practicality and effectiveness for superhero work over aesthetics. Syndrome cared more about looking like a hero then being one and that’s why he died.
No capes! Should've listened to the professional...
And hey, at the very least.
_He met his biggest fan._
@@TheHero136 HOLY FRICK THAT IS SO HORRIBLE AND SO HILARIOUS
my big problem with Syndrome is that he had this huge robot plan, but then resorts to just kidnapping the baby and the plot just becomes the "rescue the family member" thing that literally despicable me 4 did (and I hated)
I don't mind the robot gaining a life of its own and brutally murdering Syndrome and the main climax is stopping the robot. That is a nice analogy of how A.I. can gain a life of its own and that the cool edgy "tech people" using it to approximate true intelligence and hard work will only bring about the downfall of everyone in the process. To be clear that's not my actual full stance on the issue of A.I. but it would be super compelling. The path the movie takes comes frustratingly short of its full potential.
@illusory-illusionist... You do realize that the movie came out long before these discussions about the possible issues with Tech bros AI were even around, right?
“You sly dog you got me monologuing” is my favorite line from a movie. I use it so much when the villain starts exposition dumping
And it was used very effectively too. Unlike most villain monologue that just happen just 'cause, this is one started as a quick plan by Mr. Incredible to buy himself time to potential get the upper hand in the situation. There's actual tension and anticipation building up in the scene.
@@dcd3lt4 Also Buddy actually knows Mr. Incredible so it’s not like he’s just spewing out his plan because plot. He’s reveling in the evil genius role that Bob turned him into.
Plus, the movie sets it up so well in the beginning, too. When Frozone and Mr. Incredible are sitting in the car, Frozone is telling a story in an exasperated tone about how he beat a villain because he started monologuing. It established that heroes actively trick villains into monologuing and think they're dumb for it in this universe
Definitely one of the lines I quote the most
It was so iconic just because no one has ever been that self-aware as a super villain in a Pixar movie
i think people reading the incredibles as "people who are born special are better" are missing the fact that, like, syndrome COULD be a hero if he wanted to. he's an inventor with a vast fortune, dude could basically pull an iron man if he wanted to. but instead he buys a private island and spends all his time killing off supers so he can prove himself better than them.
Basically, he's kinda a truly evil Megamind counterpart, think about it. Their villiany (or, in case of Megamind, "villiany") comes from the rejection, both of them don't have any physical powers, both tried to kill someone who has those powers and thus prove themselves to be better then them and receive affection. Speaking of Megamind, Syndrome only shows how terrifying of a villian could've Megamind be if he turned... Well, actually bad.
It's not Syndrome that this reading comes fro, but Dash and Bob who keep talking about the importance of being great and how the phrase "everyone is special" is another way of saying "no-one is". Buddy and the guy who sued Mr Incredible for saving him just come across as the embodiments of the jealousy of ordinary people towards actual special people when those things are remembered.
yeah and Edna's entire existence is proof he could've done something better. Edna knows how important she and her work of fashioning super suits are (especially with the no-cape moment showing how she stops supers from coming up with life-threatening design mistakes), and clearly enough people were threatened by her to the point she has a safeguard system in case someone tries to force themselves into her workshop
syndrome could have been using that power and money to help put supers back on the menu along with himself but naaah being a serial killer is a way better idea
He's not a villain because he's not special, because he is special. He's a villain because he's a horrible person.
plus the message of “if you’re born special you’re better” is just not a good message
As an adult you look back and realize sid was absolutely an abused kid. From the way he takes his frustration out on toys, bullying his sister, all the locks on his bedroom door and especially the scene where the dog chases buzz into the room but leaves just by seeing the dad sleeping there surrounded by empty cans
Yup. And he wound up a garbage man.
And it’s just not his dad. His mom also plays a part in the way he acts in the original film. While she might not abuse him, she does enable his violent behavior like letting him play unsupervised with matches and letting him skateboard all the way to Pizza Planet by himself and back home instead of just driving there and dropping him off and coming back to pick him up. Heck, even though Hannah tries to tell on him to her when he mutilates one of her toys, I highly doubt she interferes in their any of their arguments or even stops him from stealing and mutating her dolls. Hannah’s probably the only normal family member in the Philips household and sadly has to put up with such a dysfunctional family life.
Wow, that's true. Huh, PIXAR really went for it in their first film, didn't they?
WOW.
oh fuck-
"You're lower than dirt, You're an ant"
Is genuinely a cold line from Hopper 🥶🥶🥶
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@@Lou-yf1joyes
🥶 ☃️ 🧊 colder then dads belt
"There's rocks. There's WHALE POOP. And THEN there's you."
“It’s about keeping those ants in line.”
Finally, someone who realized Anton ego wasn’t a villian but an antagonist because he isn’t evil but just an intimidating food critic
I know hes not technically a villain but goddamit he was terrifying af.
I mean, he's not a very nice person either, but he definitely isn't evil. I couldn't see him actually hurting anyone or commiting some horrible crime. He's just an extremely egotistical, creepy man who's whole job is to judge the work of other people, and he's really good at doing it.
@@mr.cookiecutterhe’s just French, being a hater is in their blood.
just that line. I don't like FOOD I LOVE IT. He was seriously dedicated to his craft/criticism. Makes it all the more heartwarming when he takes a bite of ratatouille and you see the life come back in his eyes.
He's not even a bad food critic he's an honest one who isn't afraid to write an honest review, even if it's not what he personally wanted. If they wanted him to be a villain they would show him loving the food and then still writing a bad review, but no he loves it and he's not afraid to admit it because he's a good critic. He's not even upset that they proved him wrong he's excited to give his compliments to the chief
The sentence “that was just his insatiable bloodlust talking, he’s really a nice guy” is one of my favorite lines in any video.
Why yes I also like Raiden from Metal Gear Rising
When did he say that
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@@informationnotavailable6433during the intro, when talking about which movies didn't qualify for the ranking, around 2:35
@@superbodoque7860can’t fight nature, Jack! (Fitting comment for Bruce)
The "terminated" scene in the Incredibles is a perfect example of showing and not just telling us why Syndrome is evil.
That scene is absolutely chilling too
Showing AND telling.
omg YES. I remember, as a kid, the first time I saw that scene, I need it time to process that I understood the right way. I was shocked, just like mr incredible, because it's such a dark discovery
@@DanialTarki "showing and not JUST telling" learn to read before correcting. They literally said that.
@@RivərI said the correct phrase. Learn to read before writing.
As someone who owns one of those Lotso plushies, the way I see it is I'm just cuddling a _different_ Lots-o'-Huggin' Bear. -Like the one he got replaced with.-
as someone who also owned one of these and (apparently) screamed my head off seeing TS3 in theaters, I just had no object permanence whatsoever. glad to know I'm not the only one lol
Excuse me which background music Schaffrillas used talking about Losto ?
@@orangereal827 can't remember the specific track but i'm pretty sure it's from the Zelda Twilight Princess ost
Could you imagine being that guy, not knowing you were replacing somebody else in your owner's life, and that person turns out to be a horrible man because you were chosen to replace him in his absence?
@@orangereal827Hyrule Castle from Twilight Princess. Love that OST!
My favorite part about Syndrome is that he was so obsessed with Mr Incredible that he didn’t realize he was a super too. His power was just his super intelligence. A great lesson in the dangers of jealousy and obsession
Interestingly enough, there are many theories about Syndrome's parents being supers.
There might have even been one theory about Gazerbeam being Syndrome's father.
I like that he’s so goofy it loops back around to being sinister
I don't think his intelligence is a superpower rather than a byproduct of his hyper focused obsession with usurping Mr. incredible. Said obsession leads him to be blind of what he can accomplish despite not having powers aswell.
I think he definitely knew that 😂
it's just that people didn't see that his super genius was a super power
so he felt incredibly (pun intended) discriminated against and felt divided from heroes
"you killed off real superheroes so you could pretend to be one?"
"Oh I'm real. Real enough to beat you!"
Yeah it was all pov with Syndrome when he was a kid that got him to be against superheroes
Mr.Incredible said ‘“fly home buddy I work alone focusing mainly on the villain making sure he doesn’t get away
In Syndrome’s head: *Mr. Incredible glares at him with hate* fly home buddy I work alone😒
The reason I love Chick Hicks is because the absurdity of him not being disqualified for his pushing other cars.
It’s not like it’s a once time thing or anything. It’d be like a marathon runner beating the shit out of anyone who tries to go past him, while the Marathon organizers just watch and don’t intervene.
And you know they let him off the hook because brutality brings in the views. Plenty of fans who love to see car crashes and stuff. The hosts just turn a blind eye.
Wouldn't surprise me if car racing is more of a "contact sport" in the cars world, not necessarily allowed in the rules but not as heavily enforced as it should be, like what I understand of hockey before the rules against fighting were properly enforced. It also would've brought in viewer attention, of course.
To be fair, if we go off of actual stock car racing standards, what he does is not illegal, just really distasteful
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Maybe it’s like roller derbies
I think my favorite thing about Waternoose is that his downfall isn’t him just explaining his plan to the protagonist, but him realistically trying to justify his actions to Sully and saying something completely unhinged that also makes sense for him to say in the moment
Yeah, and that still makes sense for him because he values Sully as a great, hardworking employee
yall be spittin only facts
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Something Schaff didn't talk about was how Waternoose was also fixated on solving the energy crisis. Even as he's being taken away, he still believes he's in the right.
Yeah that's what makes that scene work vs the one in Coco (I haven't seen Coco so this is just based on Schaff describing it here). The kidnap a thousand children line is not a muahaha gloating evil villain moment, it's the climax of a genuine argument scene, which just makes it all the better a gotcha of a reveal afterward. Just another way Monsters Inc does the twist villain blueprint perfectly with him
I like how on the segway numbers are just random soundclips and memes that reference the chacrater, but when it gets to Chick Hicks it's just him saying his legendary catchphrase.
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One thing I always liked about the Incredibles is that Bob says that he doesn’t keep in touch with any of the heros from his past. This is used as a way of telling him that’s because they’ve moved on and settled into their ordinary lives.
But the reveal shows us that they haven’t been keeping in touch because they’ve died. It also shows us that they didn’t move on. Syndrome hired them for hero work, and they all accepted because they wanted to be heros again.
"move on"
it's the same thing nowadays with the moderners.
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And then there's Bob's reaction to the list.
You get this feeling that, had Bob actually kept in touch, Syndrome would've been stopped sooner.
The good dinosaur is so forgettable that I honestly believed the pterodactyls name was Earl.
Me too lol
Makes me wonder if Thunderclap or the bird-dino villains from Ice Age 5 are worse
Plot twist is that his name is not Thunderclap either but I don't care enough to check if it's right or not.
the real twist was learnign the good dinosaur HAD a defined villain
I guessed it was Clepto, but i instantly believed it was Earl.
The scene with Lotso in TS3 when he tells baby “she don’t love you no more” and crushes the little heart … it literally made such an impact on me as a kid that it’s the first thing I remember when I think of that movie. Just the line delivery, the pure callousness of it, it literally struck fear into my heart as a child.
its a perfect example of how lotso uses his trauma as an excuse to be cruel and controlling even towards someone he supposedly cares about
"There is no heart! This, this is just a rock!"
i had the exact same experience as a kid 😭 the way he delivered that line made me so scared. i felt so heartbroken for poor baby.
The way the baby reacts to it as well makes it feel like Lotso is abusing an actual infant. It is honestly so horrifying due to how real it feels. Using a child as an punching bag for his own bitterness.
It scared me a little too,only for me to grin when Lotso get's Palpatine'd by Baby
3:24 Emperor Zurg
9:21 Thunderclap
11:26 Miles Axel-Rod/German Car
13:18 Johnny Worthington the Third
14:35 Jackson Storm
15:21 Evelyn
17:41 C R A Z Y B E A R
18:28 Sid
19:17 Chick Hicks
20:28 AUTO
23:17 Charles Muntz
24:09 Ercole Visconti
25:06 Stinky Pete
26:42 Chef Skinner
27:54 Ernesto de la Cruz
30:09 Randal
31:43 Hopper
33:36 Waternoose III
36:25 Lotso
40:32 Syndrome
Thanks so much for your sacrifice soldier. 🫡
Look at the time spent yapping about Zurg and Lightyear compared to the others...
German car is my favorite character in movie that is garbage
Who’s Thunderclap, and why does his time stamp go to where Earl is ranked?
Im sad you didnt mention how Chick Hicks becomes a totally unhinged sports commentator and how Lightning McQueen lives rent free in his head.
That’s one of my favorite parts of Cars 3 tbh, like after a literal DECADE this guy not only hasn’t gotten off the high of that one Piston Cup win, but also has probably seen every Piston Cup race that Lightning won and just stewed in his hatred for him all that time. It’s hilarious.
Wow, Chick Hicks is Stephen A. Smith
@@leanhngo2944expect he didn’t play the sport
If you think about it, Lightning BECAME Chick Hicks. Got lost to a rookie, but that's the only similarities they have.
Chick Hicks is John Smoltz
The funniest thing about Randall’s design, I think, is when you look at him squinting, you’d take that as a frowny, evil face that’s a part of his overall character
But when you get to Monster’s University, and you see him there, you’re like, oh, he can’t see well without glasses, that’s why
I hated how he is just a generic bully. Thats one of the things that made the movie worse. Withouth the generic bullies, the film could have been better. But not, the message was terribly delibered. The fact that Sully and Mike went into Monster Inc, withouth a diploma, is insulting. You dont become doctor withouth finishing the university.
@@fredy2041insulting? 😭😭😭 to who? also yeah you can’t become a doctor without a diploma, good thing they didn’t become doctors in that film!
@@sully42O The message that is tring to say is poorly delibered for how inconsistent it is. First, Why cant Mike scare? Why the movie ends with monsters that are less frightening than Mike, that the one with the glasses or the purple one, being able to join the scarier program? Not that they cant scare? If so, then Mike can.
Second. Thse movie has two bullies, the generic one and a Principal director. An educator should never ever tell an studient that he cant do things, like never. Also the problem lies that all thse people that bullied and downgrade Mike, the bully, the studients, the director. All these antagonists that were just mean to him. They won.
Its extremly frustrating. specialy at the end of the competicion. When Mike has that flashback of all those people telling him that he cant be this and how he express angry to shout and scary the robot. And all these, was for nothing.
All these people that downgrade him won at the end. The message the movie tied to do was poorly delibered cause of that.
Also, Being scarier and going to Monsters Inc, really implied that you need to go to an university first. Well clearly dont. So yeah, it really insults all profesions like doctor, pysocologist, and other carrers jobs, that require a diploma.
@@sully42O Its annoying how many that are blind to my point, are giving you likes withouth even question it.
@@fredy2041 dude people are liking my comment bc they probs didn’t like how you were coming off as a total academic snob. Your point about the villains was subjective and without an argument so I didn’t really care enough to comment on that part, but I thought it was weird how you called the no diploma aspect “insulting” like huh? I personally think it’s a pretty cool message to send to kids that you don’t need college to achieve your dreams bc you don’t always. Some kids are just not suited for an academic environment and some know that they will just probably not be able to afford going to college. It’s not insulting to tell these kids that they can still be happy and work their ways up in non conventional ways. What mfing doctor or psychologist watched Monsters University was insulted by that message? 😭😭😭 Being a scarer is no way equivalent to those kinds of jobs, scarers are not responsible for the physical and emotional well-beings of others, so that’s a really weird takeaway imo.
My future (hopefully) career requires me to do a PHD but I’m not gna be insulted bc a children’s movie didn’t preach the importance of a college-level education like let’s stay playful.
What I like about Sydrome is that when his actual plan failed, he didn't just give up and ran away instead he decided to kidnap Jack Jack for no other reason than to hurt Bob one last time.
That's the sign of a true supervillain right there. Putting extreme pittiness over his own safety. Instead of escaping to continue his plotting to destroy all heroes another day, he escaped and decided to kidnap Bob's baby with the intention of raising him to hate his father. Proving at his last moments that his grand plan to end the very concept of supers was just an extensión of his obsesion with Bob, the only thing that really mattered to him was make him suffer. He would have been a terrible sideckick, but he sure have the makings of a real achnemesis.
Syndrome is a great villain, but I believe there are way better villains. His introduction is just a little rushed in my opinion and I liked Randall more.
Is it me or Brad Bird movies villains are always goofy morons? I know it's not a Pixar movie, but The Iron Giant is probably the best exemple. The movie really hammer the fact that Mansley isn't just malicious, he's a complete dumbass.
@@bowserbreaker2515Randall falls a little for me because he can't really pose a direct threat to all characters. Every confrontation he has is with Mike or Boo, because Sully could realistically tear him in half. With Syndrome, he would also be beaten physically, but he doesn't have to fight physically. Zero point energy is just that absurd that he poses a threat
@@jstar3382 Fair enough. But I still like Randall more. But my favorite Pixar villain might be Chef Skinner. His crazy persistence combined with watching a man slowly lose his mind is really funny.
In the case of Hopper I like how both he and Flick use seeds to symbolize other ants and their potential. It is such an amazing way to tie the ideologies of both hero and villain as well as the theme of the story.
I never caught that! Nice point!!
I think Ernesto de la Cruz kept the photo of Hector was definitely an ego thing. He pulled of Hector’s murder and got so cocky he put it into one of his movies. By having his security toss Hector and Miguel into the cenote and keeping the photo, Ernesto essentially killed Hector twice now. You get your ass that egomaniac is going to keep that photo as a momento
Agreed. I feel like so many people wrote off villains as being bad for not making rational choices, forgetting the writers are often trying to show how things like pride and ego are negative traits that ultimately lead to a villains downfall.
@@LateNightTableCo Sometimes there's no winning.
A character can't do everything right or else they're unbelievable, but then when the characters do make bad decisions they're criticized for being stupid and creating plotholes.
@@SpaceJawaIt’s not even unrealistic. There are real live examples of killers getting caught because they let information slip (even directly to cops) because they thought they could never be caught. I mean why would OJ write a book called “If I Did It”, after he already got away with murder instead of laying low.
I feel like Gus Fring from Breaking Bad is a good example of this; his one irrational decision of going to kill Hector directly leads to his immediate downfall.
That's a great point
Lotso also works so well because you know he's evil from the start, but you have no idea HOW evil he is.
Now I know why I love King Candy as a villain too. They are both evil from the start but we don't know just how far they were willing to go
@@Treeeee2008I mean, yeah. Maybe it depends on your age and/or how many works of fiction you've consumed by the time you first watched Toy Story 3. The "overly nice old guy" shtick is a fairly common trope for villains. Honestly it's more impressive to me that they managed to show the necessary details to point towards it so well through animation.
@@Treeeee2008the moment we see him being treated good by kids, we know something is up. Its just slowly unveiled exactly how much of a pos he is
Another funny foreshadowing is that scene where Mike is trying to hide from Randall, only for him to reveal himself _blending in with a portrait of Waternoose._ Like he straight-up takes on his eyes. That's so crazy in hindsight.
I've probably seen Monsters Inc more than any other movie and I've somehow never made that connection. Mind blown.
There's an argument to be made that Mr. Potato Head is the true villain of TS1.
It's established pretty early on that he doesn't respect Woody or his authority, and seems bitter about Woody's status as favorite toy, and everything he does revolves around that resentment. So once Buzz shows up and the opportunity to tear Woody down and provoke a rivalry with Buzz keeps presenting itself, Potato Head takes it every time (his constant goading on Woody during Buzz's introduction, "Yeah! Like the attic!", etc) It's him who incites everyone to turn on Woody after Buzz is knocked out the window, where his resentment really comes up to the surface ("What happens if Andy starts playing with ME more, huh? You gonna knock me out the window too?"). Once he's gotten rid of Woody, he keeps foiling escape/rescue attempts to keep it that way (they're in Sid's house, known toy mutilator, and yet he accuses Woody of tearing Buzz's arm off. Siccing the other toys on Woody in the moving van and refusing to hear him out that he's trying to save Buzz.) He's also never shown regretting his actions like Rex and Slinky do.
The shot of RC flying into the moving van and slamming into him feels deliberately framed as Potato Head being given his comeuppance.
Mrs. Potato Head's arrival mellows him out, since now he has something to focus on besides his resentment towards Woody and finally comes to regret it in TS2 ("oh you had to bring THAT up.")
Mr. Potato Head, my favorite redeemed villain
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I'm glad somebody mentions his high key shadiness. Dude needs a #1 hater attachment for the way he acted in that first movie.
Fun fact that might interest a whole three people: The German dub translates Syndrome's line "I'm still geeking out about it!" with "Mir stehen noch immer die Haare zu Berge!" which translates to "My hair is still standing up like a mountain!" which is both a pretty popular phrase to show excitement but is also an obvious pun making fun of his hairdo.
Massive kudos to the translation team for that! I am officially one of those three people who is interested in it.
I am also one of those people
I am another interested person.
Consider me interested
Count me as interested number fünf
"the twist villain car's plan is so convoluted and so stupid that it's kind of delightful"
Thank you for summarizing why there are fans of Cars 2 and why I am one of them.
yea this is basically the summation of cars 2 for me,
it's a delightful trainwreck of a film, and i enjoy it more than like 5 other pixar films for that reason
It may be a divisive movie, but it’s my divisive movie.
The whole appeal for Cars 2 was more the spy stuff than the actual story, and even then it's so corny and stupid when the whole movie is just Mater torture, it's a "so bad it's good" movie imo
Cars 2 is stupid, broken, shit, very stupid, has probably one of the best OSTs Michael Giacchino has ever concocted (It's Finn McMissile! goes way harder than it should).
That being said I adore this shitshow
It’s really not even convoluted, it’s just a bunch of reject cars sabotaging the alternative fuel industry, to drive up demand for their own oil lol
Fun fact: Lightning McQueen couldn’t have crossed the line before helping the King because then it would be counted as outside help and the King would have been disqualified, but when McQueen is still racing it just counts as a bump draft or collision
That makes so much more sense.
All this year I just understand that. Why did he wait for Chick to cross first before he helps King, though?
@@neko-love60Even if he sped and turned around to quickly help, Chick still would have won. I think he knew that and just took his time rather than try to rush it, because if he did rush, it would seem like he cared more about the race than helping someone who was hurt.
@@neko-love60 honor was more important than winning in that moment for Lightning
@@roonkolos remember someone told him "It's just an empty cup..."
The fact that they casted Kevin Spacey as the villain in A Bugs Life aged really well
and it was directed by a real life villain
well no because each time he went to court he got cleared.
For example Anthony Rapp sued him but it was proven in court that Rapp lied because the room he said Spacey made advances on him was discovered to have not existed
You mean that guy that had his career ruined and then it turned out he isn't gulity?
Pixar is the type of company to make absolute masterpieces of bad guys before making an absolute travesty of villains before remembering they’re supposed to be one of the most respected animation studios of all time and makes another masterpiece of a villain. Same goes for their movies as a whole
Skibidi mog ohio rizz
@@GreySeer35 Brainrot.
@@GreySeer35 what?
Agreed.
@@GreySeer35Erm, what the sigma?
“I mean, after all, I am your biggest fan.”
“Buddy?”
“My name is not BUDDY!”
"And it's not IncrediBoy, either! That ship has sailed."
“All I wanted was to help you, I only wanted to help, and what did you tell me?”
@@connorlove9149 “‘Fly home, Buddy. I work alone.’”
“It tore me apart. But I learned an important lesson that day: you can’t count on ANYONE. Especially your heroes.”
Fly home buddy! I work alone!
@@RhapsodyBlueVA "I was wrong to treat you that way, I'm sorry."
“To answer that, we need to talk about parallel universes.” That caught me so off guard and was so freaking hilarious , I love it when people reference that iconic line.
pannenkoek really coeked with that line
@@coobk That's good
Little do people know we no longer need to build up speed for 12 hours to get the star with a half A-press...
MaRiOs! KiNg KoOpEr HaS kIdNaPpEd ThE pEaCh, AnD sToLe My EgGs!
He even played the SM64 music there, lol
28:50 I think this is the most genuine use of the word “bitch” I have heard in a looong time lmao
Hopper was seared into my brain as a child. He gave me a true sense of cruelty and malice, and I understood the difference between good and evil. It made the hero feel important.
Me too!! I always got chills when Flick tells him "we're a lot stronger than you say we are. And you know it....don't you?"
Hopper was the only fictional villain I have ever actually hated. No other villain has done that for me since.
also he was hot
i will take no further questions
i was genuinely terrified of him as a kid
@@lrizzard You’re attracted to Kevin Spacey.
Also Molt is hotter…
Fun fact: Charles Muntz is so far the first and currently the only main Pixar villain to use a firearm
Syndrome's goons also used firearms
@@MorganKing95 I meant main villain to use a gun
I remember how shocked I was when he pulled that rifle when I watched it as a kid.
@@dogeshark204 same here. Everyone in my audience was all like, “Holly shit, he has a gun!”
The granny from Ratatouille. Not a “main villain,” but, she uses a shotgun.
When I realized Earl wasn’t a real villain’s name…
THAT WAS FUCKED UP
Wait until I tell you about Final Fantasy: Unlimited.
The fact that I was like, yeah he looks like an Earl.
@@saulgoodmanKAZAKH same i feel stupid now 😂
But the guy who played Syndrome is also famous for My Name is Earl.
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40:06
Pixar villains who HAVE died:
Hopper- eaten alive by baby bird
Randall- beaten to death by a shovel
Syndrome- sucked by jet turbine and blown up
Auto- shut down by captain
Muntz- fell to his death after his foot was snagged on a few balloons
Mordu- crushed by giant boulder
Earl/Thunderclap- piece of wood thrown to the head by dino boy, causing him down a waterfall
Ernesto de la Cruz- crushed by giant bell (twice)
Zurg- blown up after Buzz shot the crystalic fusion core
Randall survived and got rescued by Johnny in Monsters at Work season 2
@@sheeeenogoji7603and Zurg survived the blast
ever since coco came out I've always wondered if he died under that bell. like did he just get crushed but was forced to continue "living" until everyone forgot him? or did he truly die a second time?
i don’t think auto counts as dead, at least not completely. anyone could turn him back on if they found their way to the bridge.
I think Cruz didn’t actually die, it was just humiliating
Considering there seems to be no problem with the dead detaching bones
Something interesting I noticed during this video is that Chick Hicks has tons of what is probably sponsors in his sides which is such a clever addition to his design you can tell just by looking at his design that he is only in it for fame and money
i never noticed just HOW many sponsors Chick had until watching this video. McQueen has a a couple too, but its only like, 14 stickers on his side, plus the main Rust-eze. While Chick is COVERED in stickers
also his main sponsor is called "hostile takeover bank" of all things, display of greed just written on his hood the entire movie, it works very well. cars was a pretty alright movie, shame they never made a sequel
He really has that “this video is sponsored by Raid Shadow Legends” energy
@@Rarest26 raid can at least be fun with their sponsors, like Caddicarus' sponsor segments are pretty fun. Chick Hicks will take any sponsor. like that scam owning land one, or better help, or just anything willing to pay him
@@Mariokemon sponse
20:15 I would argue that Lightning letting Chick win was actually a better move from a pragmatic perspective. Lightning had that race in the bag, and everyone knew it. By stopping just before literally winning he publicly proved that he valued helping someone else more than his own victory. That kind of PR is difficult to come by, and the only thing he had to give up was the cup itself. In the long run that goodwill was a better investment, and would’ve made him a fortune had he chosen to take Dineco’s offer.
Not to mention that if him and Chick finished first, the race would've been over, giving King no chance to properly finish his last race.
And also considering the scene literally shows mcqueen thinking about doc hudson crash in 54 when the king crash implying that mcqueen was thinking and remembering what doc went through
Now that’s what I call character development.
also the fact that it exposed Chick as an even bigger A-Hole Cheater so he lost everything ruining his career, giving McQueen an even bigger victory
I mean yeah, but like… if he did that just for PR it kinda invalidates his character development.
i joined a cars fan discord years ago and popped back in after not talking for nearly a year to say "hey chick hicks gives off divorced energy" and people were like "yeah that tracks"
Why does that make so much sense?
It's definitely the "mustache."
Hehe. Tracks. Race tracks
"I miss my wife, McQueen. I miss her a lot. I'll be back."
He also gives off " celebrity that messes around with his very young female fans" energy too if I'm being honest
5:54 I love how File Select from Mario 64 became the official parallel universes music in a very specific corner of the internet
Pannenkoek 😂
What helps waternoose’s twist is also the fact that he was trying to fix a legit problem, as he explained that simply scaring children wasn’t enough anymore
Not only that, the company is what gives energy to the whole town, meaning he had a good reason to not want the company to go under
I don't think it's implied they're the only energy company in the city, just the biggest one.
torturing children...
no
@@stephenkrahling1634he doesn’t care about humans only his own people
@@stephenkrahling1634 _"I'll kidnap _*_a thousand_*_ children before I let this company die, and I'll silence anyone who gets in my way!"_ He didnt even like Randal, but he was desperate in saving the company he went along with his barbaric scheme/contraption. (The scream extractor, which is torture as shown by being strapped + Fungus)
And when he's arrested, things aren't automatically good. Sully's clearly upset that he had to put the company he's been trying to keep afloat on the line for hurting kids like Boo, and everyone who works at Monsters Inc is terrified that they'll be out of a job when the factory is closed. It's nice bit of realism for the situation.
the underminer nation will remember this horrific betrayal
The undermined nation remembers
We will not be undermined!
We're always beneath you
But nothing is beneath us!
Get undermined nerd
You know what’s crazy- when I was a kid I always really liked Mr Waternoose. He was so warm and kind for so long, he never became scary for baby me. Honestly fantastic
I think it's because unlike, say, Lotso, Waternoose was never putting up a façade. He WAS a kind and warm guy and he genuinely did like Sulley. He was just hiding some skeletons in the closet
@@stevepensando2593and he had a motive, the monsters saw children as dangerous and a threat. It’s like how humans see spiders.
I...
They....
THEY SPENT HOW MUCH ON LIGHTYEAR?!?!?!
You're pulling my leg, you're yankin' my chain, you're... Uh... You're dribbling my biscuits!
No possible way, man.
It’s true.
"You're dribbling my biscuits" is crazy
Was half expecting you to come back at the end and tell us that Thunderclap's name really was Earl. I would've believed it
Zerg in Lightyear is literally just Goob! Thats literally who he is!
“Well done, Lightyear!”
“Wanna come to my training pod later?”
“…they all HATED me!”
But I prefer Goob the Goofy Goober
Underrated comment
That's so true tho!!!
I think my mind’s just been blown
Goob is way better with his motives and theme though, but I get your point
My favorite twist in any Pixar movie is finding out that not only was there a villain in The Good Dinosaur, but his name is in fact not Earl
Syndrome is also the only villain to scream "AND GOT BUS-AYYY!"
What I love about Hopper is he’s essentially just the leader of a military dictatorship. He’s probably also the most well written military dictatorship leaders in fiction too and he’s from a Pixar movie.
Yeah he's a great villain but, best in fiction? Massive overstatement.
@@UserName-hb7hw yeah. There's better villain than him if we include all of fiction
The best part about Hopper is that he's the one character in the film who knows the "message" of the movie from the start, that being "the ants can beat the grasshoppers". He's not this arrogant bully who mistreats others because an opportunity presents itself. He knows perfectly well that he's actually outmatched, he has no chance to win if the ants realize what their own strength is. His actions all serve the singular purpose, not of "getting food" or "bullying the weak for shits and giggles", but of preventing that realization in the ants. He walks the tightrope of a lifestyle that could end - and potentially kill him - at any point and he's using every trick in the book to boost his odds. When Flick says "the ants are stronger than grasshoppers" and Hopper's mask slips, Flick himself is surprised to say "…and you know that". Beautiful.
Pixar actually got us terrified of a villain literally named "Hopper".
@@UserName-hb7hw how many military dictators do you know in fiction. Not a ton of competition that I know of.
Honestly, one of the most memorable Syndrome moments for me wasn’t even from the main movie, but from the DVD special “Jack-Jack Attack.” He tried to bluff Kari the babysitter, talking in a more subdued voice while still wearing most of his costume, and it’s delightfully goofy.
It also happens to be where the “You Dense Mother…” meme comes from.
As a kid the BS line went over my head lol
The S is for sitter lol
@@pucamiscSame 😅
the BS line lives rent free in my head
And we all know that Syndrome’s voice actor is Jason Lee
The most evil pixar villain is the Lamp.
*_countless I's crushed by the feet of that monster..._*
“I” can’t stand it.
Rest in piece, letter I
I think it was just one singular i getting crushed over and over again…
The evil lamp has killed + will kill in the future, 30 I’s (28: Inside Out 2, 29: Elio, 30: Toy Story 5)
Can I say something
I love how the bear from Brave is just the bar for antagonist. Like, would you rather have [insert villain] or a bear as the antagonist for your movie is a great litmus test.
Can we also talk about the fact that Waternoose keeps the monster world under the false pretense that humans were toxic?
Is it implied that he is the one who spread that idea? I thought it was maybe just an idea that had been around for a while in their world.
I don't know if it's from Waternoose.
I think it's probably that some kid brought something like small pox or cholera when it got through the closet and it killed a lot of monsters, so they think that kids are toxic not realizing it was a disease.
Many cultures have misallocated disease to either air or water when it was actually bugs or fecal matter in the water
@@strawberryfaes I believe that idea was around in their world for generations, and Waternoose used it to justify kidnapping and torturing children, as well as the whole "save the company" motivation.
@@Delta_Aves_Mashups ah yea that would make sense!
I never really saw it that way. I saw the touch thing as Hyperbole, meant to protect the monster world from humans. Maybe early monsters realized that humans were far more dangerous and advanced than they were. So Monsters acted subtly in the human world, only scaring children, to not bring attention. The touch thing was probably justified propaganda to keep monsters from getting too close to the human world and bringing humans closer to the knowledge of their world.
Earl’s real name being Thunderclap was actually a better twist than Zurg being old Buzz Lightyear
I always saw Ernesto keeping Hector's photo as a sign that, deep DEEP down, he still cares about Hector. Not enough to sacrifice his career and reputation because his of ego (and perhaps insecurity of his talents) but enough that he'd like to keep a photograph of the man who was once his best friend. Who knew him before he got big and famous. To me, Ernesto keeping the photo - going against logical thinking and going off emotions instead - makes him even more interesting of a villain - more human.
I had the same thought!! He clearly cares about Hector even if it’s the slightest hint of it
That's very clearly what the writers were going for. But ofc big crab man didn't get that. Just like how he didn't get why Lighting McQueen sacrificed the piston cup, because if he would have crossed the finish line, it would mean he still values an "empty old cup" over the legacy of a racing legend.
I really enjoy shrafillas, but some of his takes are just goofy.
@@PTS-Maid I feel like Schaff, for a guy who does analysis stuff for a living, likes to prioritize surface-level jokey criticisms of these kinds of scenes over digging deeper and seeing the meaning behind them. He does this quite a bit and I'm not even sure if he does it on purpose
Schaff, I just wanted to say, your videos always bring me peace during troubled times.
The fact he talked about the minor Zurg cameo in Toy Story 3 to avoid Lightyear as long as possible is perfectly understandable lol.
Yes, yes it is.
To anyone who was fooled by the "Earl" trick, it could be because there actually is another minor antagonist in that movie named "Earl".
I think he is one of the raptors in the landscape with the herd of some cattle if i remember
@bearcoptic I thought that was "Irwin", though I could be wrong.
nah don't try to make excuses for me i just forgor and it's fully my fault
@@deleetiusproductions3497 It’s not your fault, the movie is extremely forgettable and I believed it too
@@themixelzone9968 no stop trying to prevent me from taking responsibility for my own failure
42:41 He didn’t kill the role, HE COOKED A INFINITY STAR MEAL WITH THIS GUY.
Hopper, Waternoose, and Lotso are all absolutely terrifying.
And 2 out of 3 aren't even big enough to actually hurt us!
@@bradleyadams5252 exactly!
What's interesting is that, in retrospect, all of these are villains who aren't individually threatening. They're not big bad destruction machines, but manipulators who are way scarier because the way they conduct their villainy is so grounded.
Lotso, the sinister murderous dictator. Reminds me of someone🤔
I believe they’re scary because of the resemblance of certain leaders that lives or lived on this planet
Hopper's speech on class struggles may be one of the most relevant things out of Pixar.
“Those puny little ants outnumber us 100 to 1. And if they ever figure that out, there goes our way of life.”
And sadly, we as society know that we outnumber the elites, yet refuse to do anything about it. We just complain about it online and hope things get better. 🤡
“Those puny little ants outnumber us a hundred to one. And if they ever figure that out, there goes our way of life.”
It’s sad that we all know this is true and yet, we do nothing about it. Instead of standing up to the ruling class and the elites, we just sit around and complain about it. And we continue to vote in the same people into power and hope things will be different this time. Kids have learned nothing from A Bug’s Life.
FINALLY someone else who constantly quotes "but the rat... it... stole my documents..."
That "I don't know why" synced perfectly lol 18:37
Here's a thought. If Lightyear is, in-universe, the movie that the Buzz Lightyear line of toys is based on, And if the Zerg toy is Buzz's father. Does this imply that Zerg being old Buzz is canonically so stupid that they retconned him to being Buzz's father instead?
That’s so perfect
What if in universe Lightyear is one of those edgy franchise reboots that the brand behind Buzz Lightyear chooses to ignore
@@sophiebubbles07 **looks at Lonnatics Unleashed in the distance**
@@chessecontainmentLoonatics wasn't edgy. People who say that probably didn't watch past the first episode.
If anything it's a satire of the edgy reboot trope.
@@thecabbageman1doesn’t stop it from being bad
the fact Jason Lee also played Dave in Alvin And The Chipmunk after The Incredibles years later is extremely crazy
Omg, I can hear it!
Also Earl from my name is earl, and underdog
He was on a hot streak in the early-mid 2000’s; crazy considering he first gained fame as a pro skater
"I told you Mr Incredible, I never lose"
And he played in Heartbreakers
Not to mention syndrome was literally going to KIDNAP BOBS BABY! And raise it to be evil!!!! Losing your child is probably one of the greatest fears a parent could have so the fact he was willing to go THAT FAR was also pure evil!
I read that as kidnap Boss Baby and was very confused.
@@FelisImpurrator me too
@filmfreakbecky The fact that he was willing to not call off missiles aimed at a jet that had *children* aboard shows how little he cares for any life, young or old. All he cared about was getting revenge for himself, regardless of the innocent lives involved.
Absolutely terrifying.
Also when he thought he killed Bobs wife and other kids, he just says: “Ah he’ll get over it, I seem to recall you prefer to, work, alone”
@@FelisImpurratorsame, I probably need new glasses
We know what happened to Sid from Toy Story as he apparently becomes the Garbage Man in Toy Story 3
Chick Hicks was nearly a mass murderer, so for that he's at the top of my list alone lol
Oh g’day Joe!
Also today marks the 4th anniversary of Angelis' passing 😢
OMG JOE HI, YOUR VIDS AMD REACTIONS ARE SO GOOD!
Hey, didn't expect to see you here! Wussup Joe!
Syndrome IS a mass murderer. By a lot.
Smash, next question
pass
Wait isn’t Sid a minor
Wait Sid too? 💀
*Hold up*
Smash. Next ranking list
The scene where Lotso chose not to press the button was one of the biggest villain moments of my childhood tbh. It really just showed how some people are just terrible and there’s nothing you can really do about it
Fun fact: They included that scene because test audiences were too sympathetic towards Lotso.
@@Delta_Aves_Mashups thats interesting. The fact they went out of their way to MAKE the audience hate lotso is what makes him so good. I love a villain you can't possibly sympathize with.
@@zViolinEHonestly same. Gotta love hate-able and irredeemable villains.
Yh I think it’s really nice seeing villains who have sympathetic backgrounds but are still held accountable
Like, his feelings about his abandonment could’ve gone towards making sure toys in Sunnyside don’t get left to rot but he’s too caught up in hate
20:06 The point of McQueen giving up the victory is the show that he learned there's more to life than just racing and winning! Yeah he could have crossed it and won and then help him but that would sort of kill the impact of McQueen helping Strip Weathers
That’s literally what he said😐 he was just making a joke
@christopherhidalgo6696 He said it super sarcastically
That speech Hopper gave, absolutely FIRE🔥🔥🔥
“You let one ant stand up to us, then they all might stand up. Those puny little ants outnumber us a hundred to one, and if they ever figure that out, there goes our way of life! It’s not about food, it’s about keeping those ants in line”
Any politician in real life could say something like that, too.
Hopper is so good a villain that he often eclipses the movie's flaws
Hopper is so good a villain that he often eclipses the movie's flaws
"Hey kids, here's how tyranny works!"
@@SpaceJawa”And about the collective power of the working class and how they can overpower the owner class”
"I will pay you a million dollars if you can name the villain from good dinosaur"
Flash floods, now pay up
Absent fathers
He got me there 🤷🏼♀️
my eyelids, since they were hard not to keep from closing in the final act.
Those floods were legitimely scary though, the quick flash of Arlo's dad being dragged away was surprisingly impactful for what the movie had been until then.
*shillings
“Where’s your kid now, sheriff?”
-Lotso
Toy story 4: I got you homie!
Th
this strongly implies that toys have functioning reproductive organs and i hate this
"Up here, Rot head!!!"
Yasssss
34:00
Oh if only he knew that in 6 months a rich ceo would be shot. The painful irony of putting that immediately after bugs life is astounding
"Don't forget about Randall!"
"Hey look at that, it's Randall!"
That made me laugh *WAY* too hard
A pretty cool detail about Syndrome that, frankly, you needed someone else to point it out to notice it.
On the computer, Frozone's location is known to him, and when Mirage were spying on Mr. Incredible and Frozone earlier in the film she said "The fat one is still with him". This means that Frozone was next on Syndrome's list, but once he had the location of his favorite super, he just had to get him to him so he could show off how far he has gotten.
The Omni-droid even leads Bob to a volcano, and in an earlier scene, it was established that Frozone's powers don't work in hot and dry environments. I guess Syndrome was too lazy to change the location of the robot and its path.
Jfc this is the best movie ever made
haha thats actually something i DID notice as a kid (granted it was when i was like 13 and rewatching for the first time in years but still)
@@SecretMagician That's such a good detail! I always knew they were targeting Frozone first, but I never thought about how that volcano area was perfect against him.
You cant run out of ice I thought you could use the water in the air!
Syndrome's behavior and backstory honestly makes him so much better today. We're at an age where anyone can be an online influencer or celebrity with their own community, and with it comes parasocial relationships and entitlement.
There's already several cases where entitled people would stalk their favorite youtuber or twitch streamer to assault, hurt, or break into their homes just for attention or because they were rejected of said attention. So Syndrome committing mass genocide over something he NEEDED to hear as a kid (He stalked Mr Incredible and caused a lot of damage by just being at an active crime scene, and he was probably lectured many times by Mr Incredible, his mom, and many authority figures to stop before) makes so much sense
Your brain is so big. I genuinely can't believe it.
He’s literally just the UTTP manifested as a singular human being
I actually hope children wanting Lotso teddy bears speaks to the empathy of kids, and wanting to give their Lotso love so he doesn’t turn out evil 😭
You know a villain is horrendously bad when schaffrillas starts to criticize the entire movie he’s in
And spends ⅕ of the video on him
@@Quartz512_Lightyear Zurg has a cool design but dear god he's so dumb.
@@leviticusprime4904I feel like he would have been better if he was either not related to Buzz at all and was just a cool, robot warlord, or PRETENDED to be Buzz’s dad like the animated show to really get into his head and psychologically mess with him…But no; we can’t have nice things…
@@leviticusprime4904honestly I think they should’ve just let the lightyear movie have more cheese. I haven’t watched it, but from what I’ve heard and seen from it is that it takes itself far too seriously. I think letting it be more cool and a tad cheesey with Zurg maybe still being Buzz’s father could have honestly worked, but idk I’m not a movie director
I think the fact that Waternoose says the company has been in his family for 4 generations adds a bit more to his character. He doesn’t want to banish Sulley, Sulley was his top scarer, but facing failure and a company that had been in his family for multiple generations made him desperate. He feels bad for what he did but he didn’t want to fail 4 generations of crustaceans, so you kinda get it
Ironically serves to make Waternoose still significantly less evil than most corporate CEOs of today in terms of motive. At least in the fact he had an actual reasoning to his madness and not just "innovating" for the sake of innovation. (which is a really bad reason to innovate.)
@@NeonWasInUse Yeah, even if we can both agree that his actions are wrong, we can sympathize with him because we understand how long this company was with his family. He had a motive, he didn’t just say to the camera, “If I don’t innovate, someone else will” as a certain evil Jurassic World scientist would put it
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Well I was moreso referring to the ongoing energy crisis and the massive role Monsters Inc. played in monster society at large in regards to that. Forcing Waternoose to take drastic measures. Kids just weren't getting scared like they used to anymore and things were starting to become highly desperate, all the while not having the hindsight to see laughter as alternative energy.
Obviously he still did not do a good thing. But at least you could *kinda* see why he was so desperate, because if he let Monsters Inc. go under, he was basically dooming monster society alongside it.
That's something I really like about Waternoose. He doesn't just stop at being a good twist villain. He's a twist villain because he didn't have a choice, which is a really interesting take, and makes his actions all the more vile as desperation drives him to say and do progressively more horrible things.
Really makes me wonder how the movie would play out if Waternoose had had the hindsight of laughter being an alternative energy source. Would Waternoose have been evil? Would he even have listened to Randal at all? It's an interesting thought.
The ultimate irony of Waternoose is that he scares because he cares.
@@NeonWasInUseif he knew it was 10x more powerful he’d definitely go with it, not sure he would if he didn’t know since it’s a big change
What I love about the moment when Ernesto gets busted for his true nature was the awkward silence he has and the look on his face over the fact that he unknowingly and single-handedly just ruined his legacy and lost everything. And then he gets crushed by the giant bell again, mimicking his real-life death.
Another thing was how his legacy gets ruined in both the land of the dead and the living. In the land of the dead, it was the live stream that he had no idea was going on, but it's what happens in the land of the living. When the following year, the family exposes Ernesto's true nature to the public by using the photo and letters as proof that he indeed stole Hector's works. But it's really when they put up that “forget you" sign over the statue of him on his mausoleum, as even the public now condemns him against his crimes against the Rivera family, thus tarnishing Ernesto's legacy permanently, and then leaving the tomb to decay forever in a permanent state of disrepair to show his fall from grace.
But while Ernesto likely still exists in the land of the dead and will also still be remembered in the land of the living, his crimes will forever leave him rejected in both the living and the dead and he will now be remembered as a fraud, a thief, and a murderer; thus ensuring his wish of getting fame, but in the worst way imaginable, now being infamous rather than famous for his true actions, and destined to forever live in the land of the dead in shame and disgrace for a long time, if not for all eternity. And resulting in Hector replacing Ernesto as the village's real musical figure.
Coco is a predictable Book of life ripoff that should've been cancelled mid-production.
@lydiajulianprower8356 Huh?! They are completely different? The only similarity is that it deals with dia de los muertos (the one Mexican holiday that Hollywood remembers)
The comment above me is bait, don't do it guys.
@@lydiajulianprower8356bait used to be believable
The least realistic part of Coco isn't life existing after death, it's that Mexico stopped idolizing a celebrity who committed a crime
Context: In real life Mexican singer Gloria Trevi made part in human trafficking but she is still successful today and her tours are always full of fans
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31:04 I love how this scene cleverly foreshadows Waternoose by having Randall blend into his portrait. Maybe it’s unintentional, but I still find it as a cool touch.
I'd call it definitely intentional, as the visuals of animation require so much more intentionality than live action. You can unintentionally put something in the background of a set in live action that acts as a symbol, but dozens of people put hours of work into that shot of Randall and the Waternoose portrait. There was a reason for it.
I never thought about that before, cool
I’m really disappointed in Zurg, they just had to turn the ‘EVIL EMPEROR’ into a tragic and extremely self reflective to our hero antagonist, especially when Zurg was fine as an actual villain, and that would make more sense for his title and for the context of this being a movie that led to them making toys
Buzz as Zurg could work- if the movie were a parody of a 90's kids film, and the in-universe actors made fun of it. Early Pixar films used to be highly sarcastic. If you are doing a Buzz Lightyear film, you need to have fun with the idea
@@kingsleycy3450they should have made the film more like Flash Gordon, you know the character Buzz is based on.
@@leviticusprime4904That would have been great to see. A pure pulpy adventure with a new style to it.
All they really had to do was make him a cool villain that is fun to watch, there was no need for this future Buzz nonsense
“Disappointment in the game of life” always gets a chuckle outta me
I really enjoyed this video! For some reason, I thought I did not watch a lot of Pixar as a kid, but happily, I was able to follow along with the big takeaways. I think there would’ve been a riot if you had chosen anyone else for top spot.
I admire Toy Story 3's symbolism of Lotso's hurt leg. Like Baby's disfigurement, it was a preventable byproduct of his actions that continues to linger. As a storytelling device, it shows his ego by forcing others, such as the construction truck, to bend to his will while visually demonstrating how his or anyone's selfish choices can negatively impact others.
It also serves as an indication of his false, grandfatherly perception at the beginning of the film. But later, we learn that his crutch is both literal and figurative
@@Luke_SkywaIker I didn't think about that before. Good point.
The sheer waste of premise that Lightyear had was actually pretty crazy. It could have been an insane twist where Buzz is his own father or like, has cloned him, he’s been time traveling for eons just trying and failing to fix this one mistake to the point he’s fucked up the timeline so badly that there’s absolutely no fixing it without eliminating himself from it, you see reality itself start to fall apart the longer Zurgg does so much as talk to his past son/self/clone. Turn it into a film where Buzz learns that being remembered at all would have been better than being remembered as a hero because now he has to be forgotten by everyone to prevent himself from becoming Zurgg. God, they could have made actual sci-fi, but they went with whatever the hell this was.
Honestly Lightyear shouldn't have even existed anyway. But knowing were Pixar is at now, there's a high chance we might get a Woody's Roundup film with the quality on par with Lightyear. Ye haaaaaaa😒
The biggest problem with Zurg is that he invented time travel and didn’t use it to go back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu
Wait…. you mean he didn’t go back in time, to the first Thanksgiving, to get turkeys, OFF, the menu?
@@SuperbbConnor64No, he didn't go back in time, to the first Thanksgiving, to get turkeys off the menu.
@@SuperbbConnor64 No, he went back in time, to the first Thanksgiving, to get turkeys ON the menu.
@@JustAnAcorn How could he even go back in time, to the first Thankgiving, to get turkeys ON the menu??
@@TheSebaPadawan Because he went back in time, after the events of Free Birds, to the first Thanksgiving, to get turkeys back on the menu
I really feel bad for Sid. He was a kid growing up in a toxic, maybe even abusive household - not to mention with a perfectly loving family nextdoor he could compare his to - and expressed himself through his toys, not knowing they were alive, because who would. I like to think he really was the garbage guy in the third movie and moved on to making figures and such with scrap metal and junk.
Schaff: "I will pay you a bajillion shillings if you can tell me the name of the villain in Good Dinosaur"
Me: "Good Dinosaur had a villain?"
Me: Good Dinosaur?
I love how child murder is a criteria these villains are being judged on.
William Afton:
and of course, we can’t forget Anakin Skywalker
@@OT_Foundation it was the course and irritating sand that persuaded him to the dark side
@@itspienoon7883 It does get everywhere.
@@OT_Foundation*realizes anakin is basically William in space*
-father of the main protagonist
-trapped in a metal suit
-metal suit is the only reason they aren’t dead
-killed children
-new name for when their in their suits (springtrap and Darth Vader)
-gets burned after a confrontation with their former close friend (Henry and obi wan)
one of my favorite parts about syndrome's whole deal is the SCORE when bob is going through the records. that shit HITS
one of my favorite parts about syndrome's whole deal is the SCORE when bob is going through the records. that shit HITS
The Incredibles was the first movie where I remember noticing the score. Even though the scene confused me a bit in terms of details when I first watched it (I couldn’t read) I just knew something terrible was going on because of that score
One thing I kinda like about Chick Hicks is that Lightning McQueen doesn't even defeat him. Like, not just because he doesn't win the Cup, but he literally doesn't do anything to cause his failure. He doesn't expose him as evil like Waternoose or Ernesto, Chick does that to himself. He acts like a complete jackass, publicly assaults a DIFFERENT car he was envious of, and then no one likes him. Just a complete crash and burn of a character, unrelated to Lightning living his best life. Idk I think that's kinda funny.