Boris Johnson sparks row, calling Scottish devolution a ‘disaster’
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- Was Boris Johnson intending to throw a political thunder flash across the Scottish border by calling devolution a disaster? (Subscribe: bit.ly/C4_News...)
Whether he did or not, his effective disparaging of the Scottish Parliament and twenty years of Scottish rule has achieved just that.
And however casual his remark might have been, the SNP says it will not be forgotten.
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Devolution is the biggest mistake of Tony Blair? What about the Iraq War?
Exactly..
but he voted for that
That wasn't mistake, but a necessity to maintain a _'special relationship'_ 🥰
Shhh 🤫.....
@K D aren't the Turks Aryans or CAucasian enough?
The amount disrespect this government and the media are giving to Scotland I don't blame them if they leave.
it isnt really just about this one administration. it goes back about 800 years. imperialism is an english disease. the only vaccine is independence.
@@deefjohnholler 800 years
You romantic
Rest of us pragmatic
Just a government. Not the people.
Chill the hate. It’s a news media device.
50 odd % of Scotland's electorate want to leave the UK. They're about 10-15 years late in addressing the issue. McLeish is right in that they need a better strategy.
@MGazT Last time the referendum came around the good people of Scotland had no idea that England was two years removed from making the biggest and most obvious geopolitical blunder since Hitler tried to start a land war in Russia headed into winter. A lot can change in six years. England has demonstrated to Scotland that it's more trouble than its worth. The union of the EU is more beneficial than that of the UK alone, and if they have to choose they'll choose the latter. They voted hard against Brexit, and once it goes through and the UK becomes the Albania of the North the Scots will likely have no qualms with jumping ship. They knew this was a bad idea from the get go.
Generally I would be in favour of Scotland remaining in the UK if there was a good government in Westminster. However, the Brexit Tories are so abominably awful, specially Boris Johnson, that I wish Scotland every success in getting their independence from this awful Tory government and Boris...🏴🏴🏴
Okay, in what way is Boris Johnson as head of the Tory party in any way worse than all the others over the past decade? Is it Covid? Because spoiler alert, he didn’t cause it. Quite frankly I think he did as well as anyone could expect from this country with our mannerisms. People need to start fucking well growing up and stop trying to blame the government for everything when some need to take responsibility for their own mistakes. People were warned about Covid, yet they still went out and acted foolishly and got it anyway. They’ve got no one to blame but themselves. Quite frankly the only thing I can fault of the Tory party for is the lack of pushing forward with EVs and greener energy to help cut the UKs global warming impact.
When you have all the political spectrum, from the left-wing of the Labour Party to the hard-right in UKIP all agreed that this is the worst UK government in history, then something is seriously wrong with the Brexit Tory party, especially the corruption around the Coronavirus contracts, where billions of taxpayers money was given to corrupt Tory donors, for projects that didn’t work, never before seen in UK history.
Also sources close to Boris Johnson say that he was only interested in the title of Prime Minister, and is not that interested in the hard-work involved, and may be leaving in early 2021, as everything in the UK starts to unravel. Also he is interested in wasting £30 billion on unnecessary Navy upgrades, but won’t be investing in the NHS or school meals for poor kids. The incompetence and corruption is staggering... 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧💰💰💰
@@danielwhyatt3278 ...that's called projection in psychology you are shifting blame to the tax payer who pay's the government to protect the public.
speaking as an englishman, nicola sturgeon has at least given daily press updates, as for johnson its an event if he can get himself up in a morning!
Cold in that fridge makes you sleepy mun
Boris is not trying to create a personality cult. He is able to delegate to others. Having said that he absolutely needs to FIRE Gavin Williamson right away. That man should not be anywhere near the reins of government.
As a Scotsman she's shite and she's using BBC tax payed money for her political purposes
Biblical last days we are in indeed. brandnewtube.com/watch/this-is-huge-caroline-stephens-exposes-leaked-plans-from-secret-meeting_ap45F9fbDrVvzKy.html
He actually did that regularly throughout the first lockdown. I don’t think we can blame him for not doing it again for the second one, especially with him now self isolating.
The Scots have had enough of the kafkaesque experience administered by the Tories.
i moved to germany ten years ago. watching britain from a distance gives you perspective. it's like a child's kaleidscope of a victorian nightmare.
Nah... They are watching their pensions and pounds.
They won't do anything.
Except for the SNP, who I suspect are highly delighted by the Boris Johnson Experience.
Kafka? More like Richmal Crompton
Scotland will prosper when they trade freely the the EU. It's a gold mine.
Boris shows his true colours now.Just another Thatcher.Both are loathed in Scotland for their arrogance and contempt.
Why? There is nothing arrogant about what he said. Obviously devolution was always going to be a disaster from the perspective of maintaining a unified nation state. Any basic knowledge of politics or history could tell you that. There is nothing controversial about what he said. t was obvious at the time that Blair was sowing seeds that were likely to cause trouble for the future of the UK at some point down the line.
If you want to argue that Scotalnd neded its own government for whatever reason that is fine and dandy but has no bearing on Johnson's comments. That it has been diastrous for maintaining the UK as a unified state is not debateable.
You are trying to force your perspective onto his words. I would suggest that kind of assumption is the real arrogance here.
@@sirperybLakeneySays Tory voter you.
@@enzothegod2665 Don't see what that's got to do with it (and, no, not really -I have no particular attachment to any Party).
Maybe you should try to understand what I wrote before making that kind of comment -otherwise it just makes you look thick.
@@sirperybLakeney A pound spent in Croydon is worth 4 spent in Paisley.
@@sirperybLakeney says it all for me now he's done a u-turn.You and him look stupid now haha
So tired of hearing politicians saying that the SNP are "obsessed with independence". If you actually lived here for the last five years, it's the Tories who keep on harping about "No to 2nd indyref" at EVERY SINGLE ELECTION. The SNP barely mention independence, the opposition just won't shutup about it.
So true, the vast majority of news about someone mentioning independance or another referendum either comes from the news about rising popularity despite the SNP not pushing it or it's some other party, normally Torries, saying how independance is terrible and should/will never happen.
I can’t speak about Scotland because I don’t live there but down here in England we get Scottish independence thrust down our throats on a pretty regular basis by both the SNP in Westminster and Scots who comment on TH-cam - the English public constantly has to put up with this shite and yet guess what - we have absolutely no say in the matter and quite frankly probably want Scotland to leave the UK more than the Scots do - I also have English friends who live just outside of Edinburgh and they tell me that anti-English sentiment is on the up and more and more Scots are openly rude to them - this is a terrible form of racism and far removed from the Scotland I knew when I lived there - don’t blame us for your predicament - you had a chance for independence and blew it - blame your countrymen who voted to stay in the UK if you are going to blame anyone - furthermore the English is more than aware that when we had a chance to vote for our independence we took it and this despite the deadweight of the Scots who voted against it - instead of whinging at us you should support the English public because we want what you want - just go and take the hundreds of thousands of Scots who live down here in England with you
@@dirtydawg448 I was born in Scotland and had no truck with the independence movement. I spent over 20 years - alf my life - in England and that where most of my friends still are.
The mode for independence isn't anti-English - far from it. I've no doubt that there are some dumb arseholes who do make it about country of birth, but the vast overwhelming majority of those who campaign for independence just want *Westminster* government to end because it is hopelessly corrupt and self-serving.
You should also look at the number of English-born MPs/MSPs and councillors now campaigning for indepenendence. Mike Russell is one of them.
We don't care where you you born. We only care about getting the governments that Scotland votes for.
That is really good to hear. We get it shovelled down our throats all the time down here and constantly worried that the SNP is going to try and drag up another referendum and that Scotland might actually leave the union. I don’t think it’s going to happen though. Not after last time. I wish they would stop going on about it down here then and just continue on as normal. Although, what’s normal these days anyway. Thanks for the reassurance.
@@dirtydawg448 Could be true mate, although I think I do speak for actually the majority of people in England who say that we don’t want Scotland to leave the union. I think you’re just spouting a bit of bad rhetoric there. Scotland made its choice before and quite frankly probably avoid a terrible disaster. Both culturally, internationally and financially.
Calling devolution in Scotland a disaster is asking for trouble
Its true thi
I just watched a serious German news programme where the journalists were trying not to laugh at Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson. That is the man leading Britain through Covid and Brexit.
Why is it that German Unity is seen as a good thing...but not British Unity?
@@bossendenwoodconvict Because Westminster is run by a shower of bastards who use an outdated form of democracy to restrict the choices of British people.
@@bossendenwoodconvict Britain is not a country. It is an island made up of 3 different countries. And 1 of those countries continually out votes the other 2 because of population size. Then we have Northern Ireland (as part of the UK). Even if 3 countries in that union voted for the same thing, they could be (and are routinely) out-voted. There is no unity without equality of democracy. Only the illusion of it, which is painfully illustrated every 5 years to everyone who does not live in England . 1 country, 1 vote. But it will never happen.
@@bossendenwoodconvict Germany isn't dominated by one state.
England dictates to the rest of the UK
@@clancywiggam Obviously the Scottish people disagree. They vote in Westminster elections far more than they do in Holyrood ones.
Scotland in 2014: WE WANT OUT! INDEPENDENCE!
England: Well if you leave this Union you’ll also leave the European Union”
Scotland: okay okay fine we’ll stay...
England and Wales 2016: Alright boiiis we’re out!
Scotland: Motheeerffff...
Lolz
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@@OmogeVblogTV I’ve seen this live. Either way Trump’s done.
not true the Scottish referendum was in 2015 referendum about EU was 2016
@@h.l.3683 Google is your friend 😄
Thanks for helping push Scottish independence - much appreciated, BOJO!
@MsMissy You're a year late 🤣
The UK is finished. Bring on Scottish independence and a united Ireland. Hopefully Wales could leave too and we could have a "Celtic Union" free of English discrimination and bullying. If they want England for the English they can have it. It's a dump.
Now many areas in Scotland are going into the highest lockdown restrictions. While it's hard, it will likely work better than half-arsed restrictions.
There's so many associated costs (not just financial) in allowing it to run unchecked that as annoying as lockdowns are, better that than the alternative. I think the hope is we get the transmission rate down and then open up restrictions a bit for Xmas and New Year. Then hopefully the vaccines are tested, 100% effective and ready to distribute to the vulnerable and health workers.
@@JamesMc2051 you still believe rhe lockdowns are there to protect you? how cute. sheeple.
@@MiguelSantos-kc6vw what are the lockdowns for then?
"Boris Johnson is a disaster" - Scotland
Boris Johnson is scared of Scotland
You simply can't keep paving the streets of London with Gold for decades and then not expect people outside of London to get tired of how things are being run (naturally people will some address and take control back - the Tory's went far too far, for far too long, hence they are no longer in control of their own dialogue with "leveling up" as a way of trying to keep control and prevent people from 'breaking out' for themselves.
Brexit essentially assured that SNP would gain traction.
If this can be converted to a referendum and succession, remains to be seen.
But the rise of SNP was inevitable following the result and implementation of the Brexit referendum.
I call his government a disaster
And they're dancing in SNP headquarters tonight!
Brings our independence closer. He will go down as the "man" who sank engerland
@bucketsandshims At this point they'll even lose all influence over the Channel Islands. The Commonwealth will dissolve, and at long last the sun will finally set on the British Empire. Fucking finally.
Johnson is such a disaster himself if he was my neighbour I'd move as far away from him as possible.
We want to leave the EU and survive out it. Scotland stay with us, it's better together. Paradox?
No
It's really not the same thing
@fergus orkneys.....we want independence from Scotland.
@fergus irrelevant.
Oh it's a disaster because they might actually split from a country that shot itself in the head?
On covid it was as Nicola Sturgeon and Mark Drakeford in wales have done a far better job on less money
They really did put the leader of the Scottish Conservative party into the fire, good solid journalism imo.....
tbf they usually "don't have anyone available" haha, and he's a part time referee so I think he'll take any chance to raise his public profile as a politician
Never did we ever thought we would ever hear Scottish Conservative supporters and MSP's calling Boris Johnson and I quote, "a bigoted buffoon". At least that's something most of us can now agree on that is accurate even from bipartisan point of view!
The way the Tories are building / maintaining their "Empire" is akind to the 1700's. Bully their way...
In the 21st century... with democracy and self-determination of peoples, this is wholly stupid!
if scotland remains part of the uk for 10 more years ill eat a shoe; without sauce even
I predict that the SNP will win with 79% of the vote in May.
A large majority and a mandate for an independence referendum.
Can't be sure yet which way the referendum will go...
But for sure the Scottish people want their voice.
During general elections the leader of the party in power in each of the devolved nations should be who we vote for for prime minister.
The current system is bunk.
As a Scotsman living in Australia, I am very political, it surprises me that the English are so pompous and arrogant as to assume that Scotland need ask their permission for anything
Its not 'The English'. This is a common racist fail amongst Scots. Its a bunch of shitty politicians in Westminster. Not many in England are surprised at the pomposity of these wankers.
Boris takes foot out of mouth.
Isn't the UK the most centralised govt beside (NOT IN!😅) Europe?
How quickly did he backpedal to change his words!
He is an abject failure on every single level!
"These islands"
It's obvious saying Britain makes his skin crawl.
Any mention of the word Britain should be cringeworthy for anyone considering what a disaster it’s been for the past three centuries
Ah, watching Bojo stick a knife into the UK's jugular even as it lay bleeding to death
Priceless
ITS FUCKING TIME.
The Scott's need to move on.
The 300 billion they won't have to send London can be given the the Scottish NHS.
Another thing Blair is responsible for he has alot to answer for.
The PM threw a brick through the window of Scotland, Wales and Ireland then contradicting the brick in the next breath!
The UK is now on the identical course as Yugoslavia or Czechoslovakia. Which model of separation will the ERG Junta chose? If it depends on the Tabloids - already whipping up hatred against the "SNP Union wreckers" - it will be the former. Because the deep "attachment to Scotland" the English allegedly feel, demands it !!!
"May you live in interesting times" - Chinese curse.
And people make fun of trump's hair🤣🤣🤣
It’s time to federalise the UK.
Devolution is the biggest domestic mistake of Tony Blair !!!
America is England's strongest friend as a peer, not a colony. Maybe the same happens with Scotland.
Well in all honesty Scottish devolution is a disaster. Same goes for Wales. Doing devolution in the end can only lead to one path, that’s why we need to reign it in as much as possible. The Scottish parliament should only really be nothing more than a more independent council building. And one thing I think we can all agree on, it doesn’t even really look like a parliament building anyway. Very plasticky.😂😂
Completely agree, they all seem to think they're their own countrys
"Devolution" as it were seems to work well in the U.S., federal systems work; if the states comprising them weren't forced into it but joined willfully. Certainly Scotland, Ireland (both North and Republic), and Wales were forced in. And while they may stay when times are good, when times are tough they are likely to bail. Especially if one of the reasons they decided to stay previously is no longer present shortly after. (Such as staying in the EU perchance?)
@@zakrowe1301 this kind of attitude is exactly why we are leave the union.
@@AlwaysAC what's wrong with what I said?
@@yotubeification nobody was forced into anything and wales doesnt really come into the conversation either way, they voted in favour of brexit
Of course it's a disaster. The SNP record on health and education is disastrous. Oh and on everything else as well. They couldn't run a whelk stall
I would Like Remind MP That London Is A City and Scotland Is a Country, 10 years Of Tory's Rule is A greater Disaster !
London has a larger population than Scotland
Votes to leave EU
Votes to leave UK
British sort it out arguing yourselves.
laugh, i nearly voted tory - only joking ive got a brain unlike boris
Your grammar and spelling suggests you may be overestimating your capability.
@@jonsid6628 hi ya
Scotland can absolutely stand on its own two feet, it has the skills, the resources, the people and an excellent, almost Scandinavian view of how to serve its population. Free higher education and more spent on all tiers of education in general, more per capita on health care, far more sensible laws and legal system, less kowtowing to the financial rulers of the City of London.
What do they have to lose but their chains? If they vote for independence I'll move there like a shot, it would be great to live in a pro EU Denmark Mk 2.0.
EDIT - there are people with something to lose, the Aristocratic land owners originating from Gordonstoun and Eton, along with Shell, BP and Exon. Says it all really.
Mike Russell in his comments seems to claim jurisdiction for the whole of "these islands" she the root m Tory party shrugging that Ireland is an independent country and full member state of the EU.
It has led us to divisive politics and referendums for scottish independents and brexit. That why he's saying devolution is a disaster.
He doesn't like devolution because he's obviously authoritarian and undemocratic
I think the Scottish people need to be given more control over law especially over the desperate addiction issues they are being confronted with. Conservatives have stopped listening to experts and their current approach is not working and their pride has resulted in many deaths that could be avoided with Canadian and Portuguese style drug interventions.
Interviewer: 'He doesn't believe in devolution' and I won't accept anything but you agreeing with me.
Why don't MPs debate eachother instead of debating 'journalists' who act like the have public support because of viewing figures
what boris has to remember during a hung parliament, if the SNP had not been created, there was a hugely majoritive turn out for labour in scotland, essentially removing 5million labor votes (give or take), this has made it possible for ther coalition alliance govenment to slip through by a scandal (public did not get to vote between labour and alliance), but they certainly wouldn't be in power had devolution not happened I believe - stay safe during corona - have a nice day :)
I guess we can add that to the never-ending list of things said and done by Boris that completely contradict his bizarre assertion of being a libertarian
@5:18 - reaction from Scottish Conservatives “ranging from 🙄 to 🤬”
Johnson never had 'a manifesto" Mr Ross and talking about "BENEFITS FROM UK... pfffff
Don't steal my flag.
" devolution is a disaster " ?
Wait till we get independence pal !
It looks like it now, but back then it was a good idea, things change and so do governments.
He's absolutely right that's why!!!
You are one to talk about disastrous handling of anything?
Johnson the Clown says, "Devolution is Blair's biggest mistake". No. That was Iraq.
Free Scotland 🏴
No
@@MrMrsmijj Yes
@@daibhidhtomascairn 🤣 ok. Then invade 🤣
@黃屍 🤣🤣🤣 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
yeah. Scotland should take back control.
Thanks for explaining the situation 🙏
Total disaster.
I have witnessed for myself how the SNP are obsessed with feeding on (abusing) devolution to further their political obsession with Scottish separation from the union. The Sottish people are not being given a 'straight' alternative to independence (if people are honest, the SNP would have Scotland leave one union only then to try and join another, the SNP are also in favor over-centralized political gaming yet criticize Westminster for this).
Hello folks. Can someone please tell me what's staff smoking Mr. Boris? 😂
yeah comment's turned off on his official statement so we don't listen to you if you can't listen to us.
As a Scot, I agree. Devolution has been badly handled. It is not what I voted for.
He is not wrong....
He is
story about this is great
Wee Dougie is like a sachet of cheap ketchup..keep squeezing for a bigger mess...
Devolution will remain popular until will fundamentally restructure the economic and political structures that have failed people at the local level in favor of over-centralization. People are tired of being told what they NEED by those running a centrally planned machine designed to filter resources 'upstairs' (we need to start telling the privileged and the super-rich what they NEED)
Everybody knows BOJO is a liar so devolution is good.
Let's forget about Scottish independence, could we in England please share their minister and get independent from BoJo instead? 🤔
Boris says he wants to bring back .premanoty .I think he's already started .?
I hope the Scots stay in talks with the Tory government until Boris's bridge between Scotland and Northern Ireland is built.
Thereafter Scotland can declare independence, join the EU, and all of Ireland, North and South, can trade directly with Europe via the eastern Scottish ports.
Towards the end of last week, while the courtiers’ power struggle still raged at Downing Street, I had an exchange of texts with an ex-minister. What did this experienced politician think the increasingly fractious row in No 10 was really about, I asked. Was it personalities? Policies? Power? The instant reply was short and to the point. It consisted of a single word. It said simply: “Boris!” A few minutes later, the ex-minister followed up. The problem, he said, was the ultimately futile attempt of trying to deal with a dysfunctional person by endlessly discussing structural solutions. The same sort of thing had happened to New Labour at times. Now it was happening to the Tories too. A new chief of staff here. A new adviser there. A ministerial reshuffle perhaps. Before long, the ex-minister said dismissively, they will probably move the prime minister into a brand new room in the vain hope that a change of surroundings will solve the problem.
Politicians post 2016: stuck in some mess? Start a brand new mess and get the previous quickly forgotten.
The lack of accountability of those in power and the short memory of journalists is a disgrace.
The Scottish NHS is notably better than the English NHS so Douglas Ross can do one
He didn't say it! Honestly.
What is needed is a Scottish born prime minister in no10.
The Queen was born in Scotland, Gordon Brown was Scottish, Blair and Cameron had Scottish family...
Or an independent Scotland
I agree, and that has happened. Scottish people are several times more likely to become leaders of British political parties or British P.M. The Liberals in recent years have usually chosen Scottish leaders: David Steel, Charles Kenedy, Sir Menzies Campbell, Jo Swinson etc. Labour's first P.M. was Scottish as was Gordon Brown. If not Scottish, many are partly Scottish, Blair, Cameron and Theresa May.
We had Gordon Brown bbut what a disaster he was.
@@Land-of-reason that's not the type of person I mean. That man was out of his depth.
I get bored of this Scotland arguement, they have a population inline with the Midlands but expect way more power.
People who were once colonial subjects would prefer to not be overridden by their once colonizers again, even if they are willing to co-operate with them in the present moment. Centuries of bad history tends to make people distrustful, who knew?
Is he just miffed because Scotland have qualified for the euro's?
Now it is even better that the nonessential PM is hiding behind "isolation". 🤢🤢😜😜😜😰
Big reset?? you are part of the machine.
Bravo, Gary !
WM should let Scotland have their referendum. However I don’t know how would a divided UK look like if Scotland indeed becomes independent. England and Scotland share a long border and since both are not EU members right now it would be a hard border, also many people from Scotland work or live in England and vice versa, it would be strange. And there is the question of Shetland islands, they do not belong to Scotland, they were a gift to the british crown so maybe they should become a crown dependency.
I guess it takes one to know one.
Who is this wee chappie?
The bossman of Scottish Conservatives
Johnson is managing to be an even worse PM than May
Douglas Ross is such a fool 🙄
How much screen time did you give to the tories compared with the few paltry seconds you gave to Michael Russell?
Does political balance not apply to channel four, even though they are state owned just like the bbc?
And you've got to be joking. Lies, upon lies, upon lies and they just don't know when to stop digging the hole that England has become. And you thought Trump would help you out? So sad!
Christ who did his hair bowl cut.....you just can't spread it much further Boris, you're going bald your 56 your old. Get used to it. man.
Scottish independence gets more popular as the SNP reduce educational standards. Interesting correlation
DEVO....whip it... Whip it good!!??...
Our gvts are ridiculous
I call sassenach imperialism a disaster. Go to Canada and Australia and bring all our Highland lads and lassies back, ya bstrds.
Goodbye England lol :)
You don’t need comedy in 2020, you can just watch the news. Sooner or later, someone will show their a**e.