I really appreciate adding the photos, names and dates of relevancy of the politicians & people from the past who a young person like myself may not recognise. Helps to follow the conversation without getting lost or googling who’s who.
I'm not a fan of May's politics but IMO she was the last PM who was competent and tried to do what they thought was best for the country. Since she left office, it's been all egos and self-interest.
That's because she let Boris in..Well it was David Cameron's fault. He held a referendum with leave and remain and not a reform question..The EU needs to reform and won't listen to this Brexit consequence..The EU isn't listening the UK has voted a revolution.. May more like Starmer in a way. Not a hard Brexiteer she couldn't carry it out and didn't need to. Bozo was with a Catholic. The CofE shows this. That speech was like the current Labour. Mental health/the class in education and the race thing. The Conservative Party doesn't conserve anything apart from itself! 😂
Here, here. She was a vicar's daughter and you could see a lot of her decency and fairness as a person compared to the many other clowns who occupied No 10 Downing Street under the Conservatives.
@@ac583 I respectfully disagree. Nothing in her approach to politics has indicated to me that she's in any way selfless. I'd class Truss as "power hungry".
The problem with the vans is that it was all talk and no action. Actually doing your job as the home secretary/priminister and deporting illegal immigrants is far more important than driving a bus around. I can't decide if it was incompetence on the government's side, or if it was the civil servants or an outside organisation like the ECHR.
So happy to have stumbled across this. Like my view of Rory, I've always admired Mrs May. Lovely to see you folks talk politics - really fascinating to have this window into this conversation
Gotta thing for vicar's daughters then red? Sorry. Blue. Passed myself laughing when she did that Maybot dance. Never trust a Tory (or Labour/Libdem/ Jimmy's Secret Army😅
I mean...out of the two, it was probably more beneficial to let Amber Rudd commit political seppeku. She was a bit of an empty placeholder anyway from what I recall.
As someone who is not....er naturally sympathetic to the Tories I found the interview very interesting and have a much greater respect for Theresa May than before. I am saddened and concerned by the knee jerk partisan comments as they demonstrate just how badly polarised our politics have become. I don't understand, why watch the interview unless prepared to reflect on one's instinctive bias?
I don't think the comments are knee jerk? Many (most even) are saying they don't agree with her politics (rightly so because she is responsible for a lot of terrible stuff) but respect that she has principles and respected the office she held.
@@Red1Green2Blue3 May spent her career as a far right zealot. Some people see her downfall to farther right, even madder zealots as tragic but I personally always see the beauty in irony.
I Love Theresa May! Didn't like her politics, hate brexit, but I like her a lot. Bright, intelligent, well-educated, responsable, hard-working, smart, well-read, polite woman.
LOL this is the women who deported British citizens because they were black... Jesus you really believe that any psychopath who talks nice in a little podcast is a good person. Look at her actions, not her words!
I think you've missed the point of the podcast. At 13:00 they literally discuss a person's politics, over character. You shouldn't "love" a political figure but "dislike their politics". Their politics is who they are...
Really? Do you really think so? Well you can fool most of the people most of the time etc., etc., This is the woman who gave an interview about the poor in Britain, WEARING hugely expensive leather trousers!!!
Ha true! The clown show that came after her was the best thing that could have happened for her. Boris et al made her look reasonable and disguised her disastrous home secretary policies. Same for Cameron & Osbourne. They should breathe a collective sigh of relief that Boris took the heat off their legacy with his despicable buffoonery.
@zanmato3041 this is it! She was a horrible at both her main jobs, and yet we all seem to have collectively forgot/glossed over it. She doesn't get enough stick for her "oversight" for what led to the Windrush matter
I can’t stand her. Her attempts to curb immigration were punishing and inhumane. After committing the apparent sin of marrying someone not from Britain, it’ll have cost us over £10,000 for them to eventually become a British citizen, a stressful process that will have taken over 5 years when all done. If we didn’t have the funds, or a job paying above the required threshold, we simply wouldn’t be able to be together. All so May as Home Secretary and then PM could claim the have cut immigration numbers and appease Mail and Sun readers. No concern for how damaging her policies were to normal people. And this seeped into every aspect of her immigration policy. Then has the audacity to sob when she lost her job.
@lesliecarl7623 She didnt do that bad at immigration the public have wanted our borders totally closing since Blair allowing over a 100 thousand illgals to stay. in the 80s. We are a small island we have done enough 50s 60s 70s 80s when it comes to immigration.
How can anyone or anything control that Ego infested political party. All trying to climb over each other to get power make money. Even though when they are in the death throes of a deeply damaging term. They would want to win the next general election. To do what? That is the question we need to ask ourselves. Commit this political party to the dustbin of history.
'Decent person' and 'Tory'? It was May who created the 'hostile environment' that caused, amongst other things, the Windrush scandal. That was not the act of a 'decent person' in my book, especially given she's the daughter of a C of E clergyman. Can't say I have much faith but, from what bits of the new testament I am aware of, Jesus taught compassion. Not much of that under her stint as Home Secretary.
@@oliverleonard7730I respectfully disagree. Cameron, despite having some sort of semblance that he might have a clue, is possibly the worst PM ever. Almost lost the UK, imposed austerity which killed as many people as the Iraq war did, and, of course, brought about the era of constant disruption thanks to the Brexit referendum, rather than stand up to the right of his party. Spineless and arrogant.
Say what you want about May, she is right about populism politics. Still an old fashioned, outdated lunatic, especially when she talked about the Tories wanting to 'raise people up'. Actual mental take.
@@Rory626 funny isent it, they still spout this shite when literally the only time things have been going up and up in all metrics for the last fifty years is the Blair era. They've had just as long in power and have done fuck all but carry on like good little neo-liberals and ransack the house whilst its on fire.
Some one who says she believes in social justice and upholding the law and who was resposible for the Hillsborough inquiry is a outdated lunatic. Hmmmm Mental take indeed but perhaps not hers.
Conservative politicians, no matter which country you find them, share two features: One, they are in utter (and often disingenuous) denial that a large number of people are in difficult circumstances, despite protestations to the contrary, and that require government intervention to "lift them up." Two, they are endlessly self-promotional, never missing a chance to take credit for things that went well and deny responsibility for poor decisions. Theresa May is experienced enough to know how to embody these two features in a relatively inoffensive manner, at least compared to recent populist incarnations. But, Rory chose to separate himself from the party when the chasm between his values and the party's became undeniable and unbearable. He also does not seem as comfortable being a self-promoter, even though he's rather good at it in a genuinely humble way. As so often is the truth, the leaders we need are those men and women who are reluctant to step (back) into a political system that rewards, elitists, egomaniacs and apologists and ignores people who genuinely want to serve their constituents and the nation. I sincerely hope Rory that you hold May's feet to the fire on her contention that fundamental changes to the structure of Britain's parliamentary democracy are not necessary. I'm sure you agree they are not only essential, but long overdue. The requirement for party members to tow the line, despite their moral objections is anathema to a true democracy, as is the peerage system. Alistair and Rory make a fine counterpoint duo, however it does get rather tiresome watching Alistair constantly seeking opportunities to catch people out and say "gotcha," simply because they are or were on the other sides of an issue in which he is or was involved. He is definitely not the type of person who is needed in elected office, because we need to rid the system of pettiness, not see further divisiveness, even if it's cloaked as "healthy banter."
Can I offer one observation? I feel party coherency and loyalty is natural and desirable - it is impossible to act alone, so groups are inevitable Our problem is a system that forces people into one of two ridiculously broad camps - we need a multi party system where both voters and politicians can find a group that is a natural size to naturally share values. The big parties are too big for natural coherency
Calm, rationale, knowledgeable discussion - about politics? Where is the yelling! the Insults! the petty partisan sniping! As an American born in the UK, this is amazing. Actually, it is quite entertaining but also very informative for those of us outside the UK.
Although my political views are different to PM T May I find her honourable and honest. History will look back at her Brexit deal and compare it to the one Boris Johnson got through parliament and realise her deal was considerably better. The men in her party usurped her premiership.
She was basically better than those who succeeded her. But, again, Brexit has wasted a lot of time for policymakers and politicians in the UK! They could have spent more of their precious time on other sensitive matters dealing with issues such as child poverty, food banks, heating costs, frozen living standards, zero-hour contracts, low economic growth, lack of diversification in the British Economy, fracking of proven shale gas and oil reserves, exploration of fossil fuels in the North Sea, etc.
At least the Scottish govmt has been tackling some of these issues. Oh and just to correct u and the little english msm. The oil field opening up to the west of Shetland puts it in the Atlantic ocean and not the North Sea. Idiots.
as a strong supporter of Jeremy Corbyn I found it wrong that she didn't reach out to labour much earlier for a reasonable Brexit deal. Overall May was a committed politician who was destroyed not be the opposition but by the Johnsonclub within her party.
@@asangster6582 firstly, please learn how to spell champ. Secondly, it’s called an opinion. The same as every other reply in the comments. Hope that wasn’t too hard for you to understand. Let me know if you need me to go even slower.
Dignified, measured and thoughtful. There’s much to criticise Mrs May for, and plenty she did as Home Sec and PM with which I disagree, but the current crop of politicians could learn a lot from her.
I do feel that May is a competent and genuinely honest politician. But as an EU national, I can never forgive her for her 2018 comment, 'no more EU nationals jumping the queue'. I didn't jump any queue, I came here having won a prestigious scholarship
@@thoroughlyrustled6186 Because it implies that we had somehow broken the rules. I'm also an EU citizen, and her whole behaviour towards us during the brexit negotiations was unforgivable. It took her YEARS to reassure us that we can stay in our homes. It was traumatic, (eg children from mixed marriages worrying that one of the parents would be deported), and the British somehow didn't register it. It concerned millions of people, including members of our families, and it will not be forgotten. By the other membes states. You can be sure of it.
@@thoroughlyrustled6186 because it is offensive and factually untrue. I won a prestigious scholarship and came here because of that (how I regret it now). I didn’t jump any queue, I exercised my rights of freedom of movement, in the same way that a million Britons exercised theirs and live in the EU. Did the million Britons who live in the EU also ‘jump the queue’?
David Cameron threw her the mother of all political hospital passes. No appetite on either side of parliament for a “deal”, and no appetite in European corridors for a deal.
Well, the great thing about the Corbyn-May era was that Jeremy was able to use reverse psychology and make her 'swing to the Left' on many issues where the optics looked bad... Parliamentary debate thriving instead of the sorry state of hegemony it's currently in; a rizla between the main two. How about having Jezza on next week? Hehe.
even most of where we disagree i understand where she is coming from. She was always a bit authoritarian and invasive for my liking in terms of wanting peoples private data and such but I do GET why some people take that view of how the state should behave.
My biggest regret is she became PM. I did touch on with Rob Wilson, my then local MP, and in the end his loyalty to her lost him his seat. Sometimes people stick with people even though they aren't always the right ones. He paid the price as has the country.
Incredibly small amount of time and detail was spent discussing how May oversaw many citizens being ripped away from their families as a result of her abysmal immigration policy. "I'm sorry" isn't quite good enough, is it? Apparently you can get away with whatever abysmal policies you like so long as you don't have a silly haircut and look sensible whilst inflicting them. EDIT: They also did not challenge her defence of said policy. Shameful.
Was never a fan of the soundbites coming from May - although I respect that she can't really say what she actually believes in a straightforward manner. However her attempt to get us the second best possible deal with the EU, i.e. stay in the EU but with absolutely no power, does seem to have been a genuine attempt. So my respect for her has gone up a fair amount.
Perhaps this interview displays the benefits of a system underpinned by proportional representation as opposed to our first past the post system. With PR people need to listen to each other and work together regardless of differences. Extremes don’t have a place in that system as consensus must be reached.
I'm neither a fan nor a hater of May, but it is nice to see cross political collaborations like these. Lest we end up like America, which is fast becoming two countries in one! Although Biden, despite interference by Trump, does seem to be bridging the gap somewhat between Democrats and Republicans. Remember, no matter what side of the political divide you're on, we are STILL all citizens of the SAME country! And having disagreements with each other, is both Natural and Healthy! I mean we're NOT bees, living in some Hive Mind Collective! We supposed to be Free Thinking Human Beings! And as a Left Leaning Moderate myself, who is utterly appalled at the extremes which plagues BOTH the Left and the Right, it is my hope that more and more reasonably minded people will also find themselves somewhere in The Middle, to remind the rest that we HAVE to work together! As ONE country! No matter which political party is in charge!
If youd have asked me in 2017 when she had the 'fields of wheat' interview that I'd ever want her back as PM at some time in the future, I'd have laughed in your face...
May is (was) a typical Tory. Absolutely appalling politics. As dreadful as all that went before her. But when compared with what came after, she appears a decent human being. That just shows how terrible things have become.
Theresa May is the acceptable face of pragmatic Conservatism. She seems a woman of integrity and intelligence. Which is why the Tories got rid of her of course…
stewart is a quality person. gave up listening to the pod a while back. purely because campbell is just a swarmy, insecure know-it-all. one of those who thinks they are the smartest in the room. listened again to the pod tonight because of cameron, lasted to halfway. as per usual, stewart takes all of campbell's snarky comments gentlemanly and respectfully. when i listened previously, on the rare occasion, stewart made a comment re campbell etc, campbell couldn't take it and got all defensive and prickly like a schoolboy. i am a leftie before i get abused. all i ask is that you listen properly to the pods and note the manner of stewart vs campbell. this came across my youtube feed tonight so i though i would try and see how campbell is when there is another respectable in the room, not just stewart. i was always impressed by may, anyone with a shred of decency and a moral compass would note the difference between her and bojo, trump etc. p.s 100% recommend their stablemate pod, the rest is history, it is an exceptional pod, with 2 quality people.
i find that Alistair saying that Theresa was the chairwoman and of the nasty party, it struck me that the labour party are nowhere near as progressive as the Conservative party as they have never had a female leader. Bit rich!!!! However, enjoyed the conversation.
There is so much I disagree with Theresa May on but in a post Johnson world it’s hard not to have a lot of respect for her. She’s clearly a person who has shown a great deal of integrity.
I agree but like Gordon Brown before her the integrity only gets you so far political nouse, person-ability and luck even are required in equal measures. Boris would have probably faired better had he had integrity.
I find it very easy to have zero respect for her. Someone with actual integrity would, upon receiving the OBS report unequivocally stating "Brexit is a bad idea and is going to make us poorer for a long, long time" might have thought "Okay, I'll just forget the whole thing, take the political hit and resign". Someone with no integrity at all, would continue spending millions of pounds trying to ram the thing down the country's throat while mindlessly repeating "wIlL oF tHe pUblIc" - on the strength of a 49/51 split in a non-binding referendum.
Quite nice to hear an ex PM just speaking normally rather than having to put on the mask and act in the way we as a society have decided leaders should act.
Amazing that Sunak, Truss and Johnson make May look like a political heavyweight. I am a socialist and wouldn't agree with May on much at all, but at least she respected her office and didn't spread extreme-right conspiracy theories.
This is May's attempt to compare and contrast her record in office to that of Boris, Truss & Sunak. Don't be swayed by the soft speak and calm demeanor. TM is simply another version of horrendous politicians. Repeat after me - there are no respectable Tories.
She is more of civil servant type of character. Sadly uneeceatble that kind of politican. I like her style and way but not her political priorities and sollutions..
@@gerryg1056 I'm not saying she was good. The hostile environment was one thing, but now we have Braverman using hate-stoking, fear-mongering, Nazi-like language to describe migrants and refugees. It's just not comparable.
What an incredibly tepid interview, I feel they missed a chance to be more direct about tory policy over the past decade. Then again she probably wouldn't have said yes to the interview if that was the case.
Dont get me wrong I've never been a fan of Theresa May, but she had the guts to sit down and listen to the families of those that lost loved ones at Hillsborough and then take on and deal with the issues and is still pressing for justice. Nice to see grown ups having a discussion, instead of children shouting at each other.
Still. Can't see the old nag winning any pals Merseyside way. The UK is full of mugs. FFS look at Brexit. A curse on Tories. LABOUR. NEW OLD NOT SURE LIB DEMS. Dr please I need medication. Sorry son nothing left in the cabinet. Got took it for HS2/ Brexit/ Backhanders to Lord and Lady Muck on the covid gravy train. "Gee chuck ain't the UK swell?" "Why yes Marnie. Well all gotta that God, Prince Andrew, and the Great Architects Maggie and her beau Ronnie Reagan
Excellent discussion. I think politicians would be seen to have healthier moral compasses if they didn’t accept donations from shady individuals, or have second jobs. Personally, I think these two factors are the biggest compromises to a politicians integrity. The crack down on conflicts of interest has been laughable.
I don't agree with much of May's philosophy. I agree with your statement but i think like May stated, the media have a big role to play as well. They can heavily damage or destroy a politician's reputation rapidly if they don't sing their tune. So they're the politician's are beholden to them as well.
In the final section (Being a woman in politics) I was surprised and disheartened to hear that even recently, some male MP's attitudes towards Ms May were still so patronising. What does that tell us about their attitude towards half the population?
The importance of watching interviews should never be underestimated. Podcast interviews, that one listens to only, don't do justice to either the interviewee or the interviewer as one does not get to see reactions/body language all of which provide greater insight and understanding. Really enjoyed watching the interview!
As others have commented, I wasn't a fan of May's politics but she always struck me as a decent person who had a lot of integrity and a genuine belief in what she was trying to do. Feels very much at odds with all those that have followed her.
Are you having me on? Next you'll be telling me the one about the Tory who gave a flying fuck. Oh how my sides ached when I heard the old bint spout on about 'the burning injustice' of poor mental heath privision while presiding over the decimation of said services. Wake up muppets We've been mugged off. Class War!!!
She wasn’t decent. She was an utterly vile and disgusting racist whilst Home Secretary. Genuine belief in completely foul principles is not something to be celebrated.
What she did as home secretary is the reason public services are in the trouble they are. She destroyed community policing and ripped the budget to shreds. This is partly why we are in the strife we are. When the Police Federation challenged the cuts she accused them of "Crying wolf" awful home secretary.
@@tonysadler5290 yep, same here, I left in 2017 after 15 years. The cuts finished me off, changed me as a person, single crewing to violent incidents, ridiculous case loads , I had to get out, I have never looked back.
Despite disagreeing with her in many ways, I always felt intuitively that you could at least trust her underlying aim's to genuinely make things better - could never be in doubt. She has never me struck me as self serving as 95% of politicians do.
The worst bit about her time in power is she actually managed to get probably the best deal we could get with Brexit which would have minimised the harm done, but she was ruthlessly and relentlessly attacked over it. The result is a shit show of a Brexit that will have wide-reaching, irrevocably damaging, negative consequences, for decades to come.
@@rsb8380 I find people who still bang on about Brexit and it's negative consequences, at this stage, mind numbingly boring. Deal was done, move on. I hope you don't throw that kind of negativity at the children, it's just offering an excuse for failure. If you really think a 'state' can dictate your well being, then I suggest you change your philosophical view of politics and life - I'd suggest classical liberalism. Turn a negative into a positive, turn a a problem into an opportunity and stop relying on the state to dictate how you feel about tomorrow.
@@madzangelsyes, it’s a great opportunity now for us to have a period of renormalization with Europe, to grow up as a country, reform the voting system such that immoral xenophobes can never hold the balance of power again, and convince our closest partners that we are worth taking back.
She is an old school tory both in policy, style and presentation. But she indulged Johnston and the far right when she was in office and look where it got her.
@@adamlee3772 This was a terrible interview.Campbell was clearly muzzled as the price to pay for getting a former prime minister interview.May is still ill at ease, wooden and weird. She put Johnston in a prominent job at the Foreign affairs because she lacked the balls to dump the prick on his arse. She didn't take on the right wing Brexit extremists in her party and they sunk her premiership. Sunak is making the same mistakes.Until the tories. become a centre right party and purge their party of the right wing Brexit nutters then they are screwed. Why are the current Tories all so wooden and weird? At least Cameron despite his poshness was reasonably normal.
As an outsider (American) looking in I am encouraged because the podcast has given a platform for people of opposite views to have a discussion expressing their views with respect for others views. It is what I believe to be missing in the US. As mentioned in the 12th minute this episode. Hopefully by having others around the globe seeing differing views expressed with respect can break people out of the echo chambers we find ourselves exposed to more and more. Thank you all for this and keep up the excellent work.
Theresa May was a useless, hopeless disaster as PM. We have had a litany of leftist clowns and traitors as PM since Thatcher, and Britain right now is "circling the plughole". We're practically a third world country now, with no industry and no economy. Our military is woke and almost non-existent and recently the US military told Britain its armed forces are now at a joke level and the UK can no longer be regarded as a serious military force, or even a serious country. Regrettably I have to agree with that assessment, and it's the likes of Theresa May that has destroyed Britain.
Because they all generally have the same views, Alastair Campbell was a Bush puppet who is responsible for millions of death in Iraq and Middle East. He was sat in the commons nodding to all the lies Blair was presented to the commons, to borrow Alan Bennnetts word…Alastair was nodding to all the lies on WMD like a dog in a back of the Fiesta.
I heard her interviewed by Kim Hill in NZ and the relentless pushing of her book which pointed the finger at everyone else. If I hear "Well in my book....." one more time I could be ill. Government (as Rory points out via endless compromises and deals) abuses power at every turn. Public servants and others will take their cue from the leaders. I was not charmed or convinced she is any different from others. You can be 'nice' and also ineffective. Sorry to go across the grain and be critical but she made me cranky and she is boring to listen to (unkind I know). Go well.
When she became home secretary in May 2010, England/Wales had about 143,700 police officers. When she left the office in July 2016, there were 123,000 left.
She is delusional, the Tories never helped anyone but their selves, their pointless austerity policy says it all and the reason the country and public services have been run into the ground.
Her biggest regret should be her record in office, particularly as Home Office minister. She is now only able to whitewash her career because of the utter shambles that has followed her.
I think a lot of conservatives are. I think people.born into wealth generally haven't had the same life lessons to be able to weather storms and run things in an efficient way
Her comments about being an MP are very telling and show a respect for Parliament. I respect MP's who maintain an interest in their constituents. I cannot see Nadine Dorres, Johnson et al taking the slightest interest in the people who voted for them. Many years ago, I was told a story about Dennis Skinner by a well off land owner in his Bolsover constituency who had a Right of Way issue. He told Skinner that he never voted for him but was told not to worry about that, he would take up his issue and try to assist.
I can see the advantage of moving the centre of government physically North and spreading the population more uniformly. Politics is too stuck in the South of England .
Quite a lot of soft questions I feel here... support for the book really. I don't feel her (in my view) weak legacy of government, poor election and attempts to steer Brexit over the line were given really any scrutiny. It's on these points history will really remember her.
I really appreciate adding the photos, names and dates of relevancy of the politicians & people from the past who a young person like myself may not recognise. Helps to follow the conversation without getting lost or googling who’s who.
I'm not a fan of May's politics but IMO she was the last PM who was competent and tried to do what they thought was best for the country. Since she left office, it's been all egos and self-interest.
That's because she let Boris in..Well it was David Cameron's fault. He held a referendum with leave and remain and not a reform question..The EU needs to reform and won't listen to this Brexit consequence..The EU isn't listening the UK has voted a revolution.. May more like Starmer in a way. Not a hard Brexiteer she couldn't carry it out and didn't need to. Bozo was with a Catholic. The CofE shows this. That speech was like the current Labour. Mental health/the class in education and the race thing. The Conservative Party doesn't conserve anything apart from itself! 😂
Here, here.
She was a vicar's daughter and you could see a lot of her decency and fairness as a person compared to the many other clowns who occupied No 10 Downing Street under the Conservatives.
agreed. She was thrown under the bus by the Selfservatives and they should be (but won't be) thoroughly ashamed of themselves.
@@ac583 I respectfully disagree. Nothing in her approach to politics has indicated to me that she's in any way selfless. I'd class Truss as "power hungry".
I pretty much agree. She did inherit a bit of a messy situation
"The vans were wrong" understatement of the year.
Why is it? illegal people unwelcome
Why were they wrong? Genuine question
advertising the law is wrong?
The problem with the vans is that it was all talk and no action.
Actually doing your job as the home secretary/priminister and deporting illegal immigrants is far more important than driving a bus around.
I can't decide if it was incompetence on the government's side, or if it was the civil servants or an outside organisation like the ECHR.
So happy to have stumbled across this. Like my view of Rory, I've always admired Mrs May. Lovely to see you folks talk politics - really fascinating to have this window into this conversation
@@Denis.Collinsi suspect you are the dangerous one
Gotta thing for vicar's daughters then red? Sorry. Blue. Passed myself laughing when she did that Maybot dance. Never trust a Tory (or Labour/Libdem/ Jimmy's Secret Army😅
Love this.
Moderate sensible conversation instead of far right off the wall populist bullshit we have coming from today’s Conservative government.
A far right government that just let in 1 million immigrants into the country in a single year. Wow, how far right and "fascist" of them!
She was responsible for the Windrush scandal then let Amber Rudd take the blame. Shameful.
Yep!
She's just another Adolf
Sad
Not sad! Calculated and culpable.
Amber Rudd let herself take the blame.
I mean...out of the two, it was probably more beneficial to let Amber Rudd commit political seppeku. She was a bit of an empty placeholder anyway from what I recall.
As someone who is not....er naturally sympathetic to the Tories I found the interview very interesting and have a much greater respect for Theresa May than before. I am saddened and concerned by the knee jerk partisan comments as they demonstrate just how badly polarised our politics have become. I don't understand, why watch the interview unless prepared to reflect on one's instinctive bias?
It sort of made her a little more human. shame she's still racist scum.
You can never expect to understand someone who can not differentiate between shared reality and their own perspective.
I don't think the comments are knee jerk? Many (most even) are saying they don't agree with her politics (rightly so because she is responsible for a lot of terrible stuff) but respect that she has principles and respected the office she held.
@@Red1Green2Blue3 May spent her career as a far right zealot. Some people see her downfall to farther right, even madder zealots as tragic but I personally always see the beauty in irony.
@@liamdevine8063 May a "far right Zealot"?? What did you regard Corbyn as? a Centrist? Embarrassingly narrow view of the world if you think that.
She certainly cut the police force by extreme numbers,and now there still trying to recruit them
That’s the reason why the Police heckled her as Home Secretary…
I Love Theresa May! Didn't like her politics, hate brexit, but I like her a lot. Bright, intelligent, well-educated, responsable, hard-working, smart, well-read, polite woman.
LOL this is the women who deported British citizens because they were black... Jesus you really believe that any psychopath who talks nice in a little podcast is a good person. Look at her actions, not her words!
*Responsible
I think you've missed the point of the podcast. At 13:00 they literally discuss a person's politics, over character. You shouldn't "love" a political figure but "dislike their politics". Their politics is who they are...
Really? Do you really think so? Well you can fool most of the people most of the time etc., etc., This is the woman who gave an interview about the poor in Britain, WEARING hugely expensive leather trousers!!!
So you love a xenophobe.
All I can say about May is that she isn't completely stupid (by Tory standards), shes just wrong.
and racist
In your view. She might think you are wrong.
@@annishilcock4587 yep, she likely would.
@@b4dTechno "Racist" is such a facile and meaningless concept now. Its thrown around literally everywhere.
If you say Tories are all dumb, then you’re slagging off 90% of this country’s private schools 🤣
Eton, Harrow, Haileybury etc
There are few politicians who have been so wrong so often, but get this much sympathy
Ha true! The clown show that came after her was the best thing that could have happened for her. Boris et al made her look reasonable and disguised her disastrous home secretary policies. Same for Cameron & Osbourne. They should breathe a collective sigh of relief that Boris took the heat off their legacy with his despicable buffoonery.
@zanmato3041 this is it!
She was a horrible at both her main jobs, and yet we all seem to have collectively forgot/glossed over it.
She doesn't get enough stick for her "oversight" for what led to the Windrush matter
I can’t stand her. Her attempts to curb immigration were punishing and inhumane. After committing the apparent sin of marrying someone not from Britain, it’ll have cost us over £10,000 for them to eventually become a British citizen, a stressful process that will have taken over 5 years when all done.
If we didn’t have the funds, or a job paying above the required threshold, we simply wouldn’t be able to be together.
All so May as Home Secretary and then PM could claim the have cut immigration numbers and appease Mail and Sun readers.
No concern for how damaging her policies were to normal people.
And this seeped into every aspect of her immigration policy.
Then has the audacity to sob when she lost her job.
@lesliecarl7623 She didnt do that bad at immigration the public have wanted our borders totally closing since Blair allowing over a 100 thousand illgals to stay. in the 80s. We are a small island we have done enough 50s 60s 70s 80s when it comes to immigration.
@@ThePixey1000JFC the historical illiteracy... 🤦🏾♂️
A very decent person.....and good PM..... In a difficult party
How can anyone or anything control that Ego infested political party. All trying to climb over each other to get power make money. Even though when they are in the death throes of a deeply damaging term. They would want to win the next general election.
To do what? That is the question we need to ask ourselves. Commit this political party to the dustbin of history.
i totally disagree with her politics but she's always come across (to me at least) as a decent person unlike all the other PMs from 2010 on
'Decent person' and 'Tory'? It was May who created the 'hostile environment' that caused, amongst other things, the Windrush scandal. That was not the act of a 'decent person' in my book, especially given she's the daughter of a C of E clergyman. Can't say I have much faith but, from what bits of the new testament I am aware of, Jesus taught compassion. Not much of that under her stint as Home Secretary.
Cameron was also good as well but the last 3 a complete joke. @@buzzukfiftythree
Decent my arse. (With apologies to Ricky Tomlinson)
@@oliverleonard7730I respectfully disagree. Cameron, despite having some sort of semblance that he might have a clue, is possibly the worst PM ever. Almost lost the UK, imposed austerity which killed as many people as the Iraq war did, and, of course, brought about the era of constant disruption thanks to the Brexit referendum, rather than stand up to the right of his party. Spineless and arrogant.
Say what you want about May, she is right about populism politics.
Still an old fashioned, outdated lunatic, especially when she talked about the Tories wanting to 'raise people up'. Actual mental take.
Gobsmacked at the audacity with which he said that after the last 13 years of austerity and wage stagnation
@@Rory626 funny isent it, they still spout this shite when literally the only time things have been going up and up in all metrics for the last fifty years is the Blair era. They've had just as long in power and have done fuck all but carry on like good little neo-liberals and ransack the house whilst its on fire.
Some one who says she believes in social justice and upholding the law and who was resposible for the Hillsborough inquiry is a outdated lunatic. Hmmmm Mental take indeed but perhaps not hers.
??? She opened the door to the crazy people! She appointed Johnson as Foreign Secretary!
But at least she’s polite and CofE eh?
Also her comments about there being nothing wrong with the political system. What nonsense!
Thank you for that great interview! I hope we will see Obama and other important politicians in the future. Looking forward for part 2!
As an Irish person living in Ireland I have great regard for Mrs May
Please explain
@@devilgod136why? You like division I suppose. It’s 2023 move on
Conservative politicians, no matter which country you find them, share two features: One, they are in utter (and often disingenuous) denial that a large number of people are in difficult circumstances, despite protestations to the contrary, and that require government intervention to "lift them up." Two, they are endlessly self-promotional, never missing a chance to take credit for things that went well and deny responsibility for poor decisions.
Theresa May is experienced enough to know how to embody these two features in a relatively inoffensive manner, at least compared to recent populist incarnations. But, Rory chose to separate himself from the party when the chasm between his values and the party's became undeniable and unbearable. He also does not seem as comfortable being a self-promoter, even though he's rather good at it in a genuinely humble way. As so often is the truth, the leaders we need are those men and women who are reluctant to step (back) into a political system that rewards, elitists, egomaniacs and apologists and ignores people who genuinely want to serve their constituents and the nation.
I sincerely hope Rory that you hold May's feet to the fire on her contention that fundamental changes to the structure of Britain's parliamentary democracy are not necessary. I'm sure you agree they are not only essential, but long overdue. The requirement for party members to tow the line, despite their moral objections is anathema to a true democracy, as is the peerage system.
Alistair and Rory make a fine counterpoint duo, however it does get rather tiresome watching Alistair constantly seeking opportunities to catch people out and say "gotcha," simply because they are or were on the other sides of an issue in which he is or was involved. He is definitely not the type of person who is needed in elected office, because we need to rid the system of pettiness, not see further divisiveness, even if it's cloaked as "healthy banter."
Can I offer one observation? I feel party coherency and loyalty is natural and desirable - it is impossible to act alone, so groups are inevitable
Our problem is a system that forces people into one of two ridiculously broad camps - we need a multi party system where both voters and politicians can find a group that is a natural size to naturally share values. The big parties are too big for natural coherency
According to my experiences the mentioned description of conservative politicians fit exactly the left wing ones.
@@katalinrobin6222 where did you find a left wing politician? They're a rare breed!
UK spends more on welfare than ever. Whatever you may think of so-called "conservative" politicians, the UK is truly enourmous welfare spender.
@0w784g much of which is for people in work, because we have embarrassingly low wages in this country for many roles 🙁
Calm, rationale, knowledgeable discussion - about politics? Where is the yelling! the Insults! the petty partisan sniping! As an American born in the UK, this is amazing. Actually, it is quite entertaining but also very informative for those of us outside the UK.
I don't mind May having her opinions but why is she in the Tory party? She doesn't have a conservative bone in her body.
Please upload more episodes to TH-cam, regardless of which platform I'm on, I cant get the podcasts to download in Iran even when using a vpn.
Although my political views are different to PM T May I find her honourable and honest. History will look back at her Brexit deal and compare it to the one Boris Johnson got through parliament and realise her deal was considerably better. The men in her party usurped her premiership.
She was basically better than those who succeeded her. But, again, Brexit has wasted a lot of time for policymakers and politicians in the UK! They could have spent more of their precious time on other sensitive matters dealing with issues such as child poverty, food banks, heating costs, frozen living standards, zero-hour contracts, low economic growth, lack of diversification in the British Economy, fracking of proven shale gas and oil reserves, exploration of fossil fuels in the North Sea, etc.
At least the Scottish govmt has been tackling some of these issues. Oh and just to correct u and the little english msm. The oil field opening up to the west of Shetland puts it in the Atlantic ocean and not the North Sea. Idiots.
as a strong supporter of Jeremy Corbyn I found it wrong that she didn't reach out to labour much earlier for a reasonable Brexit deal. Overall May was a committed politician who was destroyed not be the opposition but by the Johnsonclub within her party.
'Price of everything and value of nothing' - Thank you for that.
Imagine actually calling
Theresa may One of your political heroes. That’s just sad Rory
He is a Tory at heart.
What’s it got to do with you who his political hero’s are?
@@asangster6582 firstly, please learn how to spell champ.
Secondly, it’s called an opinion. The same as every other reply in the comments. Hope that wasn’t too hard for you to understand. Let me know if you need me to go even slower.
Dignified, measured and thoughtful. There’s much to criticise Mrs May for, and plenty she did as Home Sec and PM with which I disagree, but the current crop of politicians could learn a lot from her.
Can you release the videos at the same time as audio podcasts?
"the vans were wrong". no, love you were wrong.
I enjoyed this interview,I thought Teresa May was an honourable woman but not so keen on her
policies.
Mrs May can be charming but is bitter about her tenure. She wanted the title of PM for longer. Her work on Brexit was her downfall
I do feel that May is a competent and genuinely honest politician. But as an EU national, I can never forgive her for her 2018 comment, 'no more EU nationals jumping the queue'. I didn't jump any queue, I came here having won a prestigious scholarship
Really, that one comments unforgivable? Why?
@@thoroughlyrustled6186 Because it implies that we had somehow broken the rules. I'm also an EU citizen, and her whole behaviour towards us during the brexit negotiations was unforgivable. It took her YEARS to reassure us that we can stay in our homes. It was traumatic, (eg children from mixed marriages worrying that one of the parents would be deported), and the British somehow didn't register it. It concerned millions of people, including members of our families, and it will not be forgotten. By the other membes states. You can be sure of it.
EU nationals had rights above those of anyone anywhere else in the world, a constitutional change that no one in the UK _ever_ voted for. Grow up.
@@thoroughlyrustled6186 because it is offensive and factually untrue. I won a prestigious scholarship and came here because of that (how I regret it now). I didn’t jump any queue, I exercised my rights of freedom of movement, in the same way that a million Britons exercised theirs and live in the EU. Did the million Britons who live in the EU also ‘jump the queue’?
@@0w784g well ironically after Brexit, according to the UK-based Henley Passport Index, my EU passport is now more powerful than yours
David Cameron threw her the mother of all political hospital passes. No appetite on either side of parliament for a “deal”, and no appetite in European corridors for a deal.
How about this........The parties snuff out the goodness of the individual. These are obviously three decent people.
My biggest regret was you being prime minister.
Well, the great thing about the Corbyn-May era was that Jeremy was able to use reverse psychology and make her 'swing to the Left' on many issues where the optics looked bad... Parliamentary debate thriving instead of the sorry state of hegemony it's currently in; a rizla between the main two. How about having Jezza on next week? Hehe.
you don't give a CBE to James Slack and get such an easy shot at redemption
even most of where we disagree i understand where she is coming from. She was always a bit authoritarian and invasive for my liking in terms of wanting peoples private data and such but I do GET why some people take that view of how the state should behave.
Rory just loves the sound of his own voice, wish there was a way to listen to his long winded self indulgent questions at 2x speed
My biggest regret is she became PM. I did touch on with Rob Wilson, my then local MP, and in the end his loyalty to her lost him his seat. Sometimes people stick with people even though they aren't always the right ones. He paid the price as has the country.
She was a PM with integrity
Incredibly small amount of time and detail was spent discussing how May oversaw many citizens being ripped away from their families as a result of her abysmal immigration policy. "I'm sorry" isn't quite good enough, is it? Apparently you can get away with whatever abysmal policies you like so long as you don't have a silly haircut and look sensible whilst inflicting them. EDIT: They also did not challenge her defence of said policy. Shameful.
Why are people interested in how I feel? Maybe they are checking your empathy?
... she never did much or achieved much... but she did it very well... could be said of her.
Was never a fan of the soundbites coming from May - although I respect that she can't really say what she actually believes in a straightforward manner. However her attempt to get us the second best possible deal with the EU, i.e. stay in the EU but with absolutely no power, does seem to have been a genuine attempt. So my respect for her has gone up a fair amount.
She talks about conservatives being there to help the poor, shame they only talk about it, never put it into practise. In fact, the opposite.
Perhaps this interview displays the benefits of a system underpinned by proportional representation as opposed to our first past the post system. With PR people need to listen to each other and work together regardless of differences. Extremes don’t have a place in that system as consensus must be reached.
2:04: OK, what?! Did I miss something?!?
Her party ditched a reasonable PM to bring in an idiot.
Really enjoyed this!
I'm neither a fan nor a hater of May, but it is nice to see cross political collaborations like these. Lest we end up like America, which is fast becoming two countries in one! Although Biden, despite interference by Trump, does seem to be bridging the gap somewhat between Democrats and Republicans.
Remember, no matter what side of the political divide you're on, we are STILL all citizens of the SAME country! And having disagreements with each other, is both Natural and Healthy!
I mean we're NOT bees, living in some Hive Mind Collective! We supposed to be Free Thinking Human Beings!
And as a Left Leaning Moderate myself, who is utterly appalled at the extremes which plagues BOTH the Left and the Right, it is my hope that more and more reasonably minded people will also find themselves somewhere in The Middle, to remind the rest that we HAVE to work together! As ONE country! No matter which political party is in charge!
Being useless, racist vans, windrush scandal to name 3 things. She helped fan the flames of what made boris and his criminal mates popular
I’m surprised Alistair didn’t absolutely roast her on her record, she failed at everything she tried to do.
She was always too left to be a Tory. At a time when we needed a strong right wing leader we got Corbyn in a dress
If youd have asked me in 2017 when she had the 'fields of wheat' interview that I'd ever want her back as PM at some time in the future, I'd have laughed in your face...
She would've been much better suited to have been in charge during covid.
The absolutist thing is so intolerant and unintellectual
Absolutely irrelevant politician. Invite her back in 15 years time.😢
the Left: if we don't watch out politicians will use our most basic and worst prejudices just to maintain power!
the Right: hold my beer
😂😂😂
May is (was) a typical Tory. Absolutely appalling politics. As dreadful as all that went before her. But when compared with what came after, she appears a decent human being. That just shows how terrible things have become.
My biggest regret? Theresa May.
My biggest regret is that she ever became PM in the first place.
Theresa May is the acceptable face of pragmatic Conservatism.
She seems a woman of integrity and intelligence.
Which is why the Tories got rid of her of course…
stewart is a quality person. gave up listening to the pod a while back. purely because campbell is just a swarmy, insecure know-it-all. one of those who thinks they are the smartest in the room.
listened again to the pod tonight because of cameron, lasted to halfway.
as per usual, stewart takes all of campbell's snarky comments gentlemanly and respectfully.
when i listened previously, on the rare occasion, stewart made a comment re campbell etc, campbell couldn't take it and got all defensive and prickly like a schoolboy.
i am a leftie before i get abused.
all i ask is that you listen properly to the pods and note the manner of stewart vs campbell.
this came across my youtube feed tonight so i though i would try and see how campbell is when there is another respectable in the room, not just stewart.
i was always impressed by may, anyone with a shred of decency and a moral compass would note the difference between her and bojo, trump etc.
p.s 100% recommend their stablemate pod, the rest is history, it is an exceptional pod, with 2 quality people.
Not your fault, the bully boys took over and wrecked everything,Boris and his mob.they have almost gone .I’m pretty sure they won’t get in again.
Oh Theresa…..why wait until now to be a human?
i find that Alistair saying that Theresa was the chairwoman and of the nasty party, it struck me that the labour party are nowhere near as progressive as the Conservative party as they have never had a female leader. Bit rich!!!! However, enjoyed the conversation.
It makes a change a Tory that is not a liar!
How does somebody have a smile that looks like a banshee in pain?
Dr David Kelly
Compared to BJ ,Lettuce Lady , and richboy two snacks she’s a giant
Pretty low bar to be fair 😊
There is so much I disagree with Theresa May on but in a post Johnson world it’s hard not to have a lot of respect for her. She’s clearly a person who has shown a great deal of integrity.
she never showed any integrity in Government
I agree but like Gordon Brown before her the integrity only gets you so far political nouse, person-ability and luck even are required in equal measures. Boris would have probably faired better had he had integrity.
I find it very easy to have zero respect for her. Someone with actual integrity would, upon receiving the OBS report unequivocally stating "Brexit is a bad idea and is going to make us poorer for a long, long time" might have thought "Okay, I'll just forget the whole thing, take the political hit and resign". Someone with no integrity at all, would continue spending millions of pounds trying to ram the thing down the country's throat while mindlessly repeating "wIlL oF tHe pUblIc" - on the strength of a 49/51 split in a non-binding referendum.
how is it hard exactly?
Post Johnson does the heavily lifting here
Quite nice to hear an ex PM just speaking normally rather than having to put on the mask and act in the way we as a society have decided leaders should act.
Its amazing isn't it. Its almost like their humanity returns when they leave office
@@adamsubtract81 wait till Cleverly is out, she'd be the first person to be slotted in.
Instead of "we as a society" insert "the american government"
Amazing that Sunak, Truss and Johnson make May look like a political heavyweight. I am a socialist and wouldn't agree with May on much at all, but at least she respected her office and didn't spread extreme-right conspiracy theories.
This is May's attempt to compare and contrast her record in office to that of Boris, Truss & Sunak.
Don't be swayed by the soft speak and calm demeanor.
TM is simply another version of horrendous politicians.
Repeat after me - there are no respectable Tories.
She is more of civil servant type of character. Sadly uneeceatble that kind of politican. I like her style and way but not her political priorities and sollutions..
Oh, really? Who was it who came up with the "hostile environment" policy?
@@gerryg1056 I'm not saying she was good. The hostile environment was one thing, but now we have Braverman using hate-stoking, fear-mongering, Nazi-like language to describe migrants and refugees. It's just not comparable.
No, she just put the hatred on the side of a few vans and had them driven around ethnic minority areas...
I love this podcast really doing well at bringing moderate politics back to the forefront
I'd assume you'd be having kittens if Campbell interviewed Corbyn?
@@ally11488 no I think that’d be really really interesting lol
@@rickchros1919 Apologies. All the same I feel Campbell wouldn't entertain it.
@@ally11488 possibly not with it being very much not a secret how much the Labour left and Blairites despise one another
I’d agree entirely if Alistair Campbell wasn’t part of it! 🤣👍
What an incredibly tepid interview, I feel they missed a chance to be more direct about tory policy over the past decade. Then again she probably wouldn't have said yes to the interview if that was the case.
Dont get me wrong I've never been a fan of Theresa May, but she had the guts to sit down and listen to the families of those that lost loved ones at Hillsborough and then take on and deal with the issues and is still pressing for justice. Nice to see grown ups having a discussion, instead of children shouting at each other.
Still. Can't see the old nag winning any pals Merseyside way. The UK is full of mugs. FFS look at Brexit. A curse on Tories. LABOUR. NEW OLD NOT SURE LIB DEMS. Dr please I need medication. Sorry son nothing left in the cabinet. Got took it for HS2/ Brexit/ Backhanders to Lord and Lady Muck on the covid gravy train. "Gee chuck ain't the UK swell?"
"Why yes Marnie. Well all gotta that God, Prince Andrew, and the Great Architects Maggie and her beau Ronnie Reagan
Excellent discussion. I think politicians would be seen to have healthier moral compasses if they didn’t accept donations from shady individuals, or have second jobs. Personally, I think these two factors are the biggest compromises to a politicians integrity. The crack down on conflicts of interest has been laughable.
I don't agree with much of May's philosophy. I agree with your statement but i think like May stated, the media have a big role to play as well. They can heavily damage or destroy a politician's reputation rapidly if they don't sing their tune. So they're the politician's are beholden to them as well.
In the final section (Being a woman in politics) I was surprised and disheartened to hear that even recently, some male MP's attitudes towards Ms May were still so patronising. What does that tell us about their attitude towards half the population?
The importance of watching interviews should never be underestimated. Podcast interviews, that one listens to only, don't do justice to either the interviewee or the interviewer as one does not get to see reactions/body language all of which provide greater insight and understanding. Really enjoyed watching the interview!
As others have commented, I wasn't a fan of May's politics but she always struck me as a decent person who had a lot of integrity and a genuine belief in what she was trying to do. Feels very much at odds with all those that have followed her.
Are you having me on? Next you'll be telling me the one about the Tory who gave a flying fuck. Oh how my sides ached when I heard the old bint spout on about 'the burning injustice' of poor mental heath privision
while presiding over the decimation of said services.
Wake up muppets
We've been mugged off. Class War!!!
She wasn’t decent. She was an utterly vile and disgusting racist whilst Home Secretary. Genuine belief in completely foul principles is not something to be celebrated.
What she did as home secretary is the reason public services are in the trouble they are. She destroyed community policing and ripped the budget to shreds. This is partly why we are in the strife we are. When the Police Federation challenged the cuts she accused them of "Crying wolf" awful home secretary.
@@tonysadler5290 yep, same here, I left in 2017 after 15 years. The cuts finished me off, changed me as a person, single crewing to violent incidents, ridiculous case loads , I had to get out, I have never looked back.
All built on the myth (lie) which she continues to repeat - that we were on the brink of a Greece style meltdown.
Yes very true !
True and shes as guilty as the rest .
Osborne
.Very controlling
Despite disagreeing with her in many ways, I always felt intuitively that you could at least trust her underlying aim's to genuinely make things better - could never be in doubt. She has never me struck me as self serving as 95% of politicians do.
She's kinda hot too
The worst bit about her time in power is she actually managed to get probably the best deal we could get with Brexit which would have minimised the harm done, but she was ruthlessly and relentlessly attacked over it. The result is a shit show of a Brexit that will have wide-reaching, irrevocably damaging, negative consequences, for decades to come.
@@rsb8380 I find people who still bang on about Brexit and it's negative consequences, at this stage, mind numbingly boring. Deal was done, move on. I hope you don't throw that kind of negativity at the children, it's just offering an excuse for failure. If you really think a 'state' can dictate your well being, then I suggest you change your philosophical view of politics and life - I'd suggest classical liberalism. Turn a negative into a positive, turn a a problem into an opportunity and stop relying on the state to dictate how you feel about tomorrow.
@@madzangelsyes, it’s a great opportunity now for us to have a period of renormalization with Europe, to grow up as a country, reform the voting system such that immoral xenophobes can never hold the balance of power again, and convince our closest partners that we are worth taking back.
She is an old school tory both in policy, style and presentation. But she indulged Johnston and the far right when she was in office and look where it got her.
Indulging Johnson is the worst thing anyone or any organisation should have ever done. Not just May.
@@adamlee3772 This was a terrible interview.Campbell was clearly muzzled as the price to pay for getting a former prime minister interview.May is still ill at ease, wooden and weird. She put Johnston in a prominent job at the Foreign affairs because she lacked the balls to dump the prick on his arse. She didn't take on the right wing Brexit extremists in her party and they sunk her premiership. Sunak is making the same mistakes.Until the tories. become a centre right party and purge their party of the right wing Brexit nutters then they are screwed. Why are the current Tories all so wooden and weird? At least Cameron despite his poshness was reasonably normal.
As an outsider (American) looking in I am encouraged because the podcast has given a platform for people of opposite views to have a discussion expressing their views with respect for others views. It is what I believe to be missing in the US. As mentioned in the 12th minute this episode. Hopefully by having others around the globe seeing differing views expressed with respect can break people out of the echo chambers we find ourselves exposed to more and more. Thank you all for this and keep up the excellent work.
Theresa May was a useless, hopeless disaster as PM. We have had a litany of leftist clowns and traitors as PM since Thatcher, and Britain right now is "circling the plughole". We're practically a third world country now, with no industry and no economy. Our military is woke and almost non-existent and recently the US military told Britain its armed forces are now at a joke level and the UK can no longer be regarded as a serious military force, or even a serious country. Regrettably I have to agree with that assessment, and it's the likes of Theresa May that has destroyed Britain.
Because they all generally have the same views, Alastair Campbell was a Bush puppet who is responsible for millions of death in Iraq and Middle East. He was sat in the commons nodding to all the lies Blair was presented to the commons, to borrow Alan Bennnetts word…Alastair was nodding to all the lies on WMD like a dog in a back of the Fiesta.
Apart from the fact the British politicans feed you BS when their in power and even more BS when they come out of politics. They are all delusional
Is that war criminal Campbell talking.
Theresa May: "My biggest regret is the fact that I was totally fucking shit at everything."
I’ve never known nearly an hour disappear so fast.
Looking forward to next week
I heard her interviewed by Kim Hill in NZ and the relentless pushing of her book which pointed the finger at everyone else. If I hear "Well in my book....." one more time I could be ill. Government (as Rory points out via endless compromises and deals) abuses power at every turn. Public servants and others will take their cue from the leaders. I was not charmed or convinced she is any different from others. You can be 'nice' and also ineffective. Sorry to go across the grain and be critical but she made me cranky and she is boring to listen to (unkind I know). Go well.
Yah yah yah
go home vans
environment
go spin Theresa.
When she became home secretary in May 2010, England/Wales had about 143,700 police officers. When she left the office in July 2016, there were 123,000 left.
And how much did Osbourne cut her budget……
She is delusional, the Tories never helped anyone but their selves, their pointless austerity policy says it all and the reason the country and public services have been run into the ground.
That is such a simplistic thing to say. That *must* be hyperbole... you cant really think " then never helped anyone"?. Thats quixotic and wrong.
Her biggest regret should be her record in office, particularly as Home Office minister. She is now only able to whitewash her career because of the utter shambles that has followed her.
Yes, exactly right. With a book out she can present what she didn't do as if she'd done it! Don't buy it! The BS.
May is in complete denial about what Conservatism as actually is (in terms of how it affects people, not just her idealistic version of it)
I think a lot of conservatives are. I think people.born into wealth generally haven't had the same life lessons to be able to weather storms and run things in an efficient way
You watch GB news dont you- you must be very clever and understand the detail of issues.
Rory is much the same.
All of the "reasonable" conservatives are like that
Out of interest why have you concluded this person must watch gb news rather than say novara media?
She failed to investigate the Russian involvement in Brexit when she had the chance.
Sunak is indian not russian .
Her comments about being an MP are very telling and show a respect for Parliament. I respect MP's who maintain an interest in their constituents. I cannot see Nadine Dorres, Johnson et al taking the slightest interest in the people who voted for them. Many years ago, I was told a story about Dennis Skinner by a well off land owner in his Bolsover constituency who had a Right of Way issue. He told Skinner that he never voted for him but was told not to worry about that, he would take up his issue and try to assist.
Fantastic interview, thank you all involved in providing this on TH-cam!
I can see the advantage of moving the centre of government physically North and spreading the population more uniformly. Politics is too stuck in the South of England .
As a libdem/lab, ive no doubt the country would be better off now if may had been PM during covid.
In what sane world is a LibDem/Lab a cogent political choice? One should be antithetical to the other. There is no choice.
Quite a lot of soft questions I feel here... support for the book really. I don't feel her (in my view) weak legacy of government, poor election and attempts to steer Brexit over the line were given really any scrutiny. It's on these points history will really remember her.