Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars | Lex Fridman Podcast #51

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  • @lexfridman
    @lexfridman  5 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I really enjoyed this conversation with Dava. Here's the outline:
    0:00 - Introduction
    3:11 - Circumnavigating the globe by boat
    5:11 - Exploration
    7:17 - Life on Mars
    11:07 - Intelligent life in the universe
    12:25 - Advanced propulsion technology
    13:32 - The Moon and NASA's Artemis program
    19:17 - SpaceX
    21:45 - Science on a CubeSat
    23:45 - Reusable rockets
    25:23 - Spacesuit of the future
    32:01 - AI in Space
    35:31 - Interplanetary species
    36:57 - Future of space exploration

    • @qstunrr
      @qstunrr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jim Jimmy Big time recommendation Jim. Nice one

    • @Alex-qb1nt
      @Alex-qb1nt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's a good set of questions. You could use about the same with others Space related guests

    • @DS-uo1zy
      @DS-uo1zy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ehrenbruder

    • @fellowcitizen
      @fellowcitizen 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Biggest issue is now political. Homogenous corrupted/perverted corporate philosophies are gaining traction exponentially due to the removal of key laws+protections #RestoreRuleOfLaw #FreeAssange #TULSI2020

    • @pratheepanumaty7659
      @pratheepanumaty7659 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      สวัสดีครับ

  • @bravulo
    @bravulo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    One of the most inspirational episodes. Thank you, Lex and Dava.

  • @sebastianrubio928
    @sebastianrubio928 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I find it crazy how TH-cam gives access to such wealth of knowledge, some of these guests you have on I only knew by name and reputation, it's great to hear such great minds in a long format interview!

  • @BiancaAguglia
    @BiancaAguglia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    It's impossible to watch this video and not be inspired by her passion and excited about the near future of space exploration. We, middle aged humans, might still live long enough to check "Mars vacation" off our bucket lists. 😁Great interview.

    • @MrBirgerB
      @MrBirgerB 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Forget about it. You'll get to watch the moon mission in HD. That's it for you.

    • @TraditionalAnglican
      @TraditionalAnglican 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bianca A. - There's art to data science - It might not necessarily be a “Mars Vacation”, unless you have time for a LONG (27-30 month) vacation.

    • @СергейМогутов-ъ4д
      @СергейМогутов-ъ4д 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's why it's good for humanity to have different kind of people. And all this Mars ideas are not so smart. We'll have to burn stupid amount of fossil fuels to get their. Interstellar missions is a job for small and light robots.

    • @BiancaAguglia
      @BiancaAguglia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MrBirgerB Isn't watching moon landings on TV "so last century" (except for the HD part)? 😁Surely we'll be able to do much better than that when it comes to the next successful moon missions. I expect to at least have some kind of VR way of experiencing those explorations.

    • @BiancaAguglia
      @BiancaAguglia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TraditionalAnglican Give me a treadmill, access to a decent number of good e-books, and a good laptop with Python on it, and I'm OK with a three year long vacation. At least in theory. 😁

  • @kurtriker9141
    @kurtriker9141 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!

  • @dndinpodcast7234
    @dndinpodcast7234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Yes, more interviews about Mars exploration !

  • @panpiper
    @panpiper 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I've been a Dava Newman fanboy for a good couple of decades.

    • @qstunrr
      @qstunrr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Peter Cohen Love guys like you too who become aware and stay aware

  • @101mrmc
    @101mrmc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You can see the wonder in her eyes

  • @deeliciousplum
    @deeliciousplum 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Wonderful interview. Dava's passion for the research she does is infectious. 🌻

  • @sryinex
    @sryinex 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love her energy and insight into some of these human element challenges in space.

  • @lateksi14
    @lateksi14 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was realllly awesome! Space and exploration, and Dava seems a really lively, intelligent and enthusiastic explorer!

  • @paulmichaelfreedman8334
    @paulmichaelfreedman8334 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember reading an article about her and the suit project in 2006. Their research kind of hit a dead end as some parts of the suit could not be properly worked out to be actually functional in the time they had for the project (budget). So there is still much work to do on the mechanical counter pressure suit.

  • @AntoineDennison
    @AntoineDennison 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This was such a refreshing interview! For all the talk of getting to Mars, it seems as if we're trying to run before we can walk. The moon is a perfect environment to develop our understanding of artificial habitation. It seems to me that we need to be able to build, fuel and deploy manned vehicles from the moon before we can realistically expect to initiate a viable, sustained mission to Mars; otherwise, we'd simply be sending people to Mars to die.

    • @AntoineDennison
      @AntoineDennison 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@skierpage Yes, everything starts here on earth. But eventually we need to determine if these tools work in the environments they're designed to operate in. There are a number of environnmental variables that can't be accounted for in space, as opposed to earth based simulations of low atmosphere environs.

    • @TraditionalAnglican
      @TraditionalAnglican 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Antoine Dennison - You might want to go to the Mars Society website or look at Mars Direct -
      www.marssociety.org/concepts/mars-direct/
      www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Mars-direct-A-simple%2C-robust%2C-and-cost-effective-Zubrin-Baker/644f3a1eb49cbecf7b7e2ef987ab3f6389d822ee
      www.nasa.gov/pdf/376589main_04%20-%20Mars%20Direct%20Power%20Point-7-30-09.pdf
      spacenews.com/35865curiositys-radiation-results/
      bigelowaerospace.com/
      m.th-cam.com/video/7hkzvoOJA5E/w-d-xo.html
      www.aispacefactory.com/marsha
      www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4470275/
      www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Method-to-maintain-artificial-gravity-during-for-Martin-Landau/fe8fd11a51f01e2ebedfed840243afdb75c6e9ad
      www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0094576516303988?via%3Dihub

  • @jackd42o
    @jackd42o 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can't like this enough. Thanks Lex.

  • @exacognitionai
    @exacognitionai 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for inspiring a gap filler in our exoskeleton flex polymer design. Strange how inspiration strikes like lightning from anywhere & moves the entirety of a path forward.

  • @multiversityx
    @multiversityx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Post the link for cash app? It’s hard to find on the App Store.
    I really enjoy your work Lex! A book collating the stories of these amazing individuals is begging to be written ;)

    • @juusokorhonen1628
      @juusokorhonen1628 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, would be sure to buy that👍 A great idea

  • @PATRIK67KALLBACK
    @PATRIK67KALLBACK 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dear Lex, the intervju with Elon Musk was the best intervju ever, bu this intervju with Dava Newman was outstanding!

  • @nicholaspatton1742
    @nicholaspatton1742 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was 7 when Apollo11 landed and Neil took that step. It was a joyous moment and somehow a 7 year old realized that it was really important. We have to remember that it was a real stretch for us to get there, it's so remote, hostile and challenging a 100 scientific ways. Getting there was a marvel but nearly a fluke. Now we will go back far more prepared and long term.

  • @nesa1126
    @nesa1126 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Cool guest. Thanks Lex :)

  • @bustarogers9990
    @bustarogers9990 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She's got such a cute smile and personality. This is the sort of driven person you want running space programmes.

  • @stanvdovitski7979
    @stanvdovitski7979 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Magnificent person! She spills her energy and positivity... such a pleasure! Thanks Alex, as usual.

  • @Tourismmj
    @Tourismmj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for the wonderful insights🙏🏻👍

  • @qstunrr
    @qstunrr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Really excited, great stuff Lex. Many thanks to Dava!

  • @rickharold7884
    @rickharold7884 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent! Thx Lex.

  • @abacus749
    @abacus749 ปีที่แล้ว

    What type of glass was used in the windows of the Apollo Spaceships?. They each had 5 triple glazed windows and the glass in those windows did not melt when travelling through temperatutes of 5,000 degrees upon re-entry.

  • @sasstemir
    @sasstemir 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    She’s so amazing, thank you for the interview, Lex!
    I feel inspired :)

  • @drew4021
    @drew4021 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    NASA while they have done amazing things like Hubble, Voyager etc are still basically stuck in that government mentality of slow and steady. She mentioned Magellan and the point is slow and steady gets us absolutely nowhere. Until SpaceX we were stuck in the mud of this mentality. And I like how they lay claim to SpaceX and Blue Origin -like it was part of the plan. Mars in 2030's. Who has time for that? NASA is good for basic science but not for getting us anywhere. They have lost that since Apollo and the general public that funds them are tired of waiting. For the first time since Apollo people are excited again and its not because of NASA or ESA for that matter

    • @andyburk4825
      @andyburk4825 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly - when does the Orion fly - crewed - this year ? next year ? the year after ?
      But Mars by 1983 ... sure.

    • @musicalfringe
      @musicalfringe 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Regardless of the history, though, it seems the idea of using the innovation of subcontractors is the most viable way forward - and NASA still has a function in organisation, PR, and human factors.

    • @lubricustheslippery5028
      @lubricustheslippery5028 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      NASA have cooperated with companies as Lockheed Martin for a long time

  • @jackd42o
    @jackd42o 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    she's fucking brilliant

  • @Elbownian
    @Elbownian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love it, Lex.

  • @AnthonyHirsch
    @AnthonyHirsch 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Interesting podcast!! Thanks for doing these- always fascinating to listen to some of the main minds at work in science

  • @christophelamaison2206
    @christophelamaison2206 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very nice conversation thank you Lex for making it possible. She is an inspiring person.

  • @hinton4214
    @hinton4214 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    One thing I don't understand is why the hell we still are not on the Moon? We've been there 50 years ago and then what happened? Why we never attempted to land people there since then?

    • @keynadaby
      @keynadaby 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is expensive, and not rapid gain in going back there, and without the fear of war moving you, we chilled, but in the near future ( 2-4 yrs) we'll have a great capability of delivering cargo and people cheaper, so it will happen in this new decade. But definitely, we could already have one.

    • @jan.tichavsky
      @jan.tichavsky 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's because space exploration takes serious long term commitment. If you don't want to spend significant portion of GDP employing million of people to push forward like in Apollo era it means you have to focus on the goal getting out there by any means. That is, put in the work instead of satisfying the job machine in every state that keep working on old reusable technology just to drop it in the ocean. Yeah, I'm talking about SLS. Then every 4 or 8 years comes new administration, scraps the old program and relaunched new one with the old parts, changing goals so often doesn't really help. Ideally you would have NASA researching tech like propulsion, life support, insitu resource extraction and then support the commercial sector in finding most efficient and quick way to implement that in real products. That kind of works already. SpaceX lives thanks to government contracts to both deliver cargo and people and also to implement new tech like raptor getting funded by the army. And saves a ton of money against old space companies sucking the tax money comfortably without much innovation.

    • @TimoNoko
      @TimoNoko 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Biosphere 2 proved that maintaining a closed ecosystem is much harder than imagined in Sci-Fi books. Nobody wants to live in moon just to get sick and die.

    • @anthonyarnold9087
      @anthonyarnold9087 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because we have been lied to

    • @TraditionalAnglican
      @TraditionalAnglican 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jan Tichavský - You’re right except for the part about spending a significant portion of our national GDP - We’re spending almost as much in inflation adjusted dollars as we did in the 1960’s - We’re just not getting any return on the investment for the reasons you cited. Comparing expenditures as a percentage of the Federal Budget won’t work because our Federal Budget is a much higher percentage of our GDP than it was in the 1960’s.

  • @abellargo7668
    @abellargo7668 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good job Lex, I m a huge fan! Meet it up

  • @WTFSt0n3d
    @WTFSt0n3d 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    cant wait for moonstreams

    • @ecospider5
      @ecospider5 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes totally. Of course moonstreams could be automated. I want to see moonstreamers. Actual people paying for their moon habitat with live video.

  • @SuperTomwell
    @SuperTomwell 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank u Alex, great interview!!

  • @Miki736
    @Miki736 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great conversation! I love optimistic scientist :D

  • @grapy83
    @grapy83 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your content Lex.
    Lately I'm feeling down about all this mars exploration thing.
    If all the countries are making their own high risk high investment missions to mars then consequently they will want to keep tight control on whatever success they achieve on that alien planet. And you know where does it lead to... The same things we have been doing on "this planet". Yes, territorial, racial, cultural discriminations. And what that leads to... Just skim the human history.
    Initially I was hoping that world might UNITE to tackle down the Martian endeavors but now I see everyone is going their own ways.

  • @thorddespace2773
    @thorddespace2773 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how that lady speaks. It gives glims of how she thinks.

  • @jackd42o
    @jackd42o 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    holy f this is incredible content!

  • @paulmichaelfreedman8334
    @paulmichaelfreedman8334 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Billionaire entrepreneurs out there: Somebody still has to pick up on the massive space suit industry that is about to boom to supply all those suits to those people who want to go to the moon and mars.

  • @abellargo7668
    @abellargo7668 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @kentredwine9515
    @kentredwine9515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is cool, how ever the perchlorate salts, and toxic dust, this would only really be practical on the moon.

  • @thetrumanshow4791
    @thetrumanshow4791 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If they ever perfect her suit design and make it the norm, it will revolutionize space travel, life in space and life on other planets/moons.

  • @sortof3337
    @sortof3337 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You ask the questions I want to ask. Demn good lex. demn good.

  • @user-eh9jo9ep5r
    @user-eh9jo9ep5r 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Super smart autonomouse AI system in helmet and costume which could help in all possible extremal conditions could be beneficial. Like when you alone on some strange planet out of anything with a lot danger, and u need to get comfortably and easy everything u need and want :) like to organize furniture from near stones, appartments and any other things that could be found and used ❤

  • @_l735
    @_l735 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mechanical counter pressure is definitely a good idea, something I've given thought to before, we can determine how much it can offset against adverse environmental impacts.
    You should definitely "shrink wrap the head" though.

  • @ancientfutures
    @ancientfutures 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What does she think about the van allen radiation belt??

    • @ianmeade7441
      @ianmeade7441 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nothing because it's overhyped and not a very big deal

  • @jlebrech
    @jlebrech 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how she didn't really answer the HAL question :P

  • @bimmergeezer
    @bimmergeezer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nothing more beautiful than an intelligent, articulate, adventurous, attractive women.

  • @lilth501
    @lilth501 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Probably for the entire Journey To Mars human beings will have to wear a spacesuit and how difficult it would be for a human being to live half of their day in a spacesuit once we get to Mars the emotional and physical impact would be enormous

  • @ozkantas2018
    @ozkantas2018 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Her thoughts about earth kinda reminds me of George Carlin, rip

  • @VA-ph2ml
    @VA-ph2ml 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Think you had a big spliff before the podcast dude

  • @Wulfcry
    @Wulfcry 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Munching cornflakes away like they are potato chips while watching this nom nom.
    And I'm thinking working on earth is hard working on mars will be twice as hard I'm no fool.

  • @trichogaster1183
    @trichogaster1183 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wheres her combadge?

  • @stevo12378
    @stevo12378 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    She is hot .and her knowledge makes her even more so lol. Awesome insight Into where we actually stand at this point in time. Regarding space travel and exploration.

  • @judeibbetson9082
    @judeibbetson9082 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    We been to the moon 50 yrs ago only because there was never a moon landing....she said to go back there prepared ??? Man winds up there a very along time ago with no prep. of experience but all of a sudden we need more tech. to go back. B.s.

  • @navidb
    @navidb 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    CASH APP FAM!

  • @antoinepageau8336
    @antoinepageau8336 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great interview Lex. I noticed you often have water bottles and single use plastic’s present during the interview. I wonder how history students 500 years from now will react when they study your footage.

    • @TraditionalAnglican
      @TraditionalAnglican 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Antoine Pageau - The water bottles are recyclable, & they’ll know about recycling.

    • @antoinepageau8336
      @antoinepageau8336 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TraditionalAnglican So billions of them magically end up creating a new continent in the pacific ocean... My point is lead by example and the better educated among us have no excuse.

    • @TraditionalAnglican
      @TraditionalAnglican 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Antoine Pageau - The bottles are reusable & recyclable, & the “Single-Stream Recycling” used in many cities makes that even easier, so there is no excuse for any recyclable plastic to end up in any landfill in a developed country. The problems now are 1) Dealing with the plastic pellets used to manufacture products from water bottles to furniture & car parts (as much as 40% of all plastic waste worldwide consists of those pellets), 2) Getting developing countries (what we used to call “3rd World Countries”) to do the same thing with their plastic that we do (40+% of the plastic waste worldwide comes from these countries) & 3) cleaning up the mess that we’ve made. I don’t see how having Dr. Newman not use the water bottle she refills is going to solve any of these problems.

  • @itsalljustimages
    @itsalljustimages 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Lol... She has zero interest (or no time to engage) in philosophical problems that Lex is trying to engage in..

    • @Patchaddictedpolymath
      @Patchaddictedpolymath 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cyberpunkalphamale Poor choice of words

    • @TraditionalAnglican
      @TraditionalAnglican 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Satyendra Kumar - They had 45 minutes, & they were scheduled to talk space exploration & engineering. Lex usually has 1-1/4 - 1-1/2 hours with his guests.

  • @WalkerRunnels
    @WalkerRunnels 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang addresses 1,400+ attendees of SC19, the annual supercomputing conference, in Denver, where he introduced a reference design for building GPU-accelerated Arm servers, announced the world’s largest GPU-accelerated cloud-based supercomputer on Microsoft Azure, and unveiled NVIDIA Magnum IO storage software to eliminate data transfer bottlenecks for AI, data science, and HPC workloads.
    th-cam.com/video/69nEEpdEJzU/w-d-xo.html

  • @rolandlemmers6462
    @rolandlemmers6462 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:21 He he, the woman is absolutely clueless.
    Death Penalties
    - drowning: tied to hands and feet then thrown overboard
    In case of murder the murderer was tied to the victim and thrown over board.
    - hanging
    Corporal punishment
    - lashing with a short, thick piece of rope; the most commonly applied punishment
    - walk the spar: throw people in handcuffed condition several times from a decent height into the water.
    - keelhauling: pull the punished in handcuffed state (several times) under the ship. Depending on the severity of the crime it could be the length or the width of the ship.
    - branding
    - nailing a hand to the mast with a knife
    Other penalties
    - "to work for the Prince": to do forced labor
    - fines
    - reduction in rank
    - leaving exiled on an (uninhabited) island or deserted coast
    - sent to the cage: the mildest correction

  • @ObviousRises
    @ObviousRises 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro you're more low energy than me.

  • @tima7079
    @tima7079 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    why are you talking like a broken robo

  • @VaclavKosar
    @VaclavKosar 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Meh, too much buzz words.

  • @ludalindahl
    @ludalindahl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BS

  • @sleepersciscience-magicfin7098
    @sleepersciscience-magicfin7098 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    :D

  • @broken1965
    @broken1965 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thankfully we have SpaceX cause NASA is blah