Top 5 Brutal BATMAN Murders
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- Batman plays it a little more fast and loose with his "no killing" rule than he likes to think. And I'm gonna prove it.
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Criminals: Give me a break
Batman: Ok
*Snap*
+Soulkey sbr They just wanted a break of batman kitkat bar.
+NatsumeHack XD
Hahaha LOL
Mortal kombat
Aaron Morris Babality.
My favorite quote," punching everyone within punching range."
But... henchmen aren't people...
Hey hech lives matter
I find it curious that both Batman and Superman aren't supposed to ever kill and yet over in the MCU the Avengers are slaughtering people left right and center.
To be fair it wouldn't make sense for the Avengers not to kill. Iron Man owns one of the worlds largest weapon manufacturers. Captain America was a solider so murder comes with the job. Banner has no control when he's all Hulked out. Black Widow and Hawkeye are skilled assassins. And Thor is a god that doesn't covet all human life (he really only cares for humans he knows), and he's usually more concerned with Asgardinan affairs. On the other hand, Superman is so o.p. it's usually well within his power to not kill and effectively solve a situation. Batman's reason for not killing is different in almost every canon , but it basically boils down to child hood trauma.
Lol I didn't realize that
Rowan J Coleman If im not mistaken that will actually be the plotline for captain america 3 civil war.
No the plot actually is that after a terrible accident involving superheroes the goverment wants every superhero to sign the superhero registration act so they follow laws and have to give up their identity iron man thinks its right cap thinks its wrong so this leads for the two to make different sides and fight it out
Sandwich Muncher Most likely Agents of Shield will present that "terrible accident", if not the sole existence of Afterlife and the murder of Gonzales and a bunch of agents during the aircraft carrier incident by the Inhumans, and now a bunch of people eating fish and omega 3 pills, lots of super powered people will arise, most likely by end of season all the ground work for Civil War will be set up, even Cap and Tony should cameo during the season
Batman killed fans with a Bat Credit Card....
I call it my Financial Fatality!
lol
BAT CREDIT CARD !!!!!!!!?
Yes sir.
in all honesty they needed to die
Batman doesn't kill anybody. That's, like, his one rule. They aren't dead. They're sleeping. You see, when criminals fight him, it's exhausting because he's so good that It often causes them to have to nap afterwards.
Look at those poor little guys in the video--they're all tuckered out.
(Bonus points to everyone who gets the reference!)
I understood that reference
Yeah I get it :)
College humor batman
DR. FISHY NOOO!
Really? You had to bring up the stupid imposter Badman?
people were complaining about Zack Synder Superman that he killed Zod. People should look at Tim Burton Batman first before they complain.
Sharraz King Superman killed Zod in the comics and in Superman II
ranwolf76 yes I know that but people have to stop being ungrateful about Zack Synder Superman. I know Man of steel was not a perfect superman movie but it was still very epic.
Sharraz King I liked MoS, I have it on blu-ray. I'm just pointing out the ignorance/hypocrisy of the folks complaining about the neck-snap. Almost all of the complaints have a precedent in either the comics, the previous movie series or the animated series. The only one I agree with is about Jonathan Kent. The "You are my son." scene was the closest the movie got him right
ranwolf76 buddy glad i know Man of steel flaws but its all from the neck snap and other flaws from the movie. Plus I agree with u the complain have presidented from the comics animated series and previous movies.
Sharraz King or read the comics where Superman kills Zod....twice
"Have I, Robin?" hahahhah
+MrMechudo94 "Yeah, no he's dead. If he isn't, someone can just take a crowbar to my head or something"
+mrwindupbird101 to which Batman gleefully replied, "that can be arranged!"
Lol, Batman pretty much kills everyone in Arkham Knight. Unconscious my ass
He doesn't kill anyone in Arkham Knight.
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They aren't dead if you don't check the pulse
Man, early Batman was fucked up...
Early Batman crashed the funeral of a mob boss and shot the body just to make sure he was really dead
ranwolf76 wow...just wow...
Z Rex IKR?
BATMAN!
Evil Teddy I prefer his adopted daughter Cassandra, anyway.... damn you Dan Didio...
I love how this guy makes his argument and then says, "If you dont like it, here is Batman totally wrecking some fools."
It made me laugh.
"To be fair sometimes those deaths are the result of inaction rather than action like..."
- That time he murdered Ra's' by handing Gordon the keys to the Batmobile, to blow the train tracks next to Wayne Enterprises, in an attempt to purposefully send the train carrying his mortal enemy flying off the rails, into a parking garage, resulting in his inevitable firey death? That "inaction"?
LOL!
No that's murder. That's like, a very carefully planned murder.
Actually thats conspiring and accomplicing to murder, but Gordon was the one with his finger on the trigger. Batman is way to smart to get his hands dirty, he has a murder-bitch with him all the time. Ask Bane he'll tell ya. Oh wait, no he won't because Batman handed the keys to a weaponized batpod... the same Catwoman who in earlier scenes showed she was willing to kill with guns no problemo. Think Batman forgot that? Nah. He was just waiting to use his new patsy!
Luke Carroll In most states being complicit in and planning murders have near identical legal ramifications to shooting someone directly in the face. Especially when paired together.
futurestoryteller well to be fair that was gotham .... .not like most cities of most of states
But it's Ra's. Murdering Ra's al Ghul is basically just inconveniencing him for a bit until someone brings him back.
Commissioner Gordon did it Batman just flew in beat the shit out of everybody and then left.
He killed the truck driver in the end of The Dark Knight Rises. While spamming rockets at Talia. :D
Don't forget the goin from the dark knight in the doctor costume who gets his head yanked horizontally until batman suddenly slams him in the neck.
No one ever remembers the truck driver who was probably a regular Joe.
YES! the guy in the garbage truck. He smashed into it with the tumbler
Stephon Yacub and what about those cops during the chase in the first movie? You hear about people dying from just a collision and he had them back flipping those cars.
not to mention the million dollars of property damages that sick filthy rich prick tabed up for the city .......
I still respect Batman's rule however can't say the same for Marvel heroes I mean for example the Avengers roster of Cap, Iron Man, Widow, Hawkeye, Hulk, Thor. They have all killed hundreds of people Cap during WW2 and present time. Iron Man blows up buildings and stuff, Widow is a spy assassin who no one should trust at all kind of self explanatory, Hawkeye is a deadly Marksman assassin, Hulk is a mindless behemoth, Thor is a God who killed all types of beings throughout the nine realms. What I am saying is my definition of a hero is someone who has a moral understanding that life should not be taken, that everyone deserves to know the error of their ways. I am not attacking Marvel but I am just being honest.
Those are for those heroes in Marvel, but how about Spiderman?
But all those heroes do understand that or at least learned to understand that idea. Hulk started off killing out of self-defense against the government, Cap was a soldier so it was his job to do it and it didn't matter whether he wanted to kill or not, he had to do it to help his country. Iron man doesn't just go out with the intention to blow up buildings, it's usually part of a big battle and casualties happen in battles.
I'm just saying they have reason for death to happen, mostly for the greater good. Also sometimes no matter how much they try to show the villain the errors of their ways, they won't change and more people die because of it and sometimes you have no other choice then to kill them. It's never good but sometimes it has to happen. Like when Wonder Woman snapped Maxwell Lord's neck. She had to do it or brainwashed Superman was going to kill Batman
There are ways to achieve sufficient results without killing people even in comics. I mean I made a vow not to kill anyone but let's just say the temptation is overwhelming if you are trying to save someone. I am sorry man its just I don't respect or recognize certain people in comics as heroes like Captain America they say he is courage incarnate but realistically he is a misguided bumbling fool who does not realize that he just the government's weapon or hammer if you will. I know he is a soldier but no government is worth killing people no matter how much wrong they did.
Marvel's Heroes are much more grey than DCs. The realize that there are some people who just don't deserve to be alive and their lives endanger countless others. Batman had always been a bit naive on this. Capturing people only to let then escape over and over. I guarantee that if Thor or Stark or Widow captured the Joker twice and he escaped both times and killed countless people he would not have made it to arkham a third time.
Knives Millions Captain America is no tool for the government to use. If he believes something is wrong or what they're are doing isn't right, he won't just blindly follow them and do what they want, he'll stand against them or at least he just won't do what they say. He is no idiot, he does what is heart believes is right and will try to protect the good no matter what people say. He is a hero just as much as Batman
He killed Bane ones. But started his heart again.
GHOSTMONKEY LYNGE #arkhamorigins
The Punisher does not slow himself down with such silly rules! :P
Punisher = old school Batman, right?
Thread Bomb well the punisher is like if old Batman was just a really bad dude
Batman should kill The Joker. Once and for all. Or at least fuck off and let Jason do that. I'm totally with Superman and his Injustice role on this scenario.
Really because superman became an evil dictator so I guess it doesnt work for the best does it.
alfie hagan
Dictation is the only way of controlling the world my friend. Democracy is non-existent,
XVSting Obviously not there will always be people to rebel. Just like in injustice. And what superman was doing was wrong
The Joker wants Batman to kill him. If he does, Joker wins.
***** Justice is meaningless without freedom.
Batman sure does love a good neck-snappin!
Well now we know what him and superman is going to bond over in Batman vs Superman
And we rib Superman in Man of Steel for the same thing.
Bradley Cude
Because Superman, unlike Batman, doesn't have an extensive career of neck snapping. Punching the fuck out of corrupt politicians and wife beaters? Sure. (Seriously, Golden Age Superman was hilarious) But not neck snapping. It's another reason why Man of Steel is Batman with super powers movie.
dracowheelz5 Not quite- Superman still has his mom to visit periodically.
Who does Bruce have? Alfred?
Yep, Bruce has Alfred. One to one.
The Killing Jone in a nutshell
Joker: HAHAHAHA >XD
Batman:.....hehe......
Joker: HAHAHAHA >XD
Batman: Ha ha ha ha
Joker: HAHAHAHA >XD
Batman: Ahahahaha :D
Joker: HAHAHAHA >XD
Batman: HAHAHAHA >XD (Snaps Joker's neck)
Batman:.......
Joker:.......
Writers:.......
Illustrators:......
Readers:.......
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(The end)
It's literally called the *killing* joke
Killing the joke, u mean?
+Cheezy McPardin both of you are wrong it's the killing joke
I'm surprised that time Batman buried KGBeast alive didn't make the list.
Damn.
Coz KGBeast didn't die. Batman told the cops a few days later, and they found him, still alive.
Yeah but Who cares about kgbeast
How does this channel only have 40,000 subs... Deserves to be 400,000. Great Job!
Bruh
The neck snapping part made me laugh as hell
Batman would be better if he killed.
TotalMadnessMan How? How will he strike fear in criminals? Because Deathstroke kills but criminals couldnt care a rat's ass about him. Batman breaks bones,teeth, gets you life sentences in prison and makes you wish you'd have met deathstroke instead of him. Batman puts real fear into people, let alone leaving people who're scared of heights hanging from a gargoil on Lacey Towers. xD
RetroMagnet Who would you be more scared of? Someone who put your gang into prison, or someone who slaughtered them?
TotalMadnessMan Prison, because like I said, batman doesnt just grab someone by the wrist and says "Come with me" Like cops do, he breaks their bones and teeth and makes them wish they were dead, why else do you think people are scared of batman? He even drops people from roofs and leave them hanging, not to mention their fear of heights. Then he brings them into prison where Killer Croc, Bane, and other huge prisoners are at. Making the criminal Terrified and pretty much becoming either the Jokers' Bane's or Killer Croc's Bitch. xD
NOW, down to Deathstroke, I mean yeah, people are afraid of death, but did you see how you worded that? "Someone who put your gang into prison, or someone who slaughtered them?" You made it seem like batman doesnt do shit to anyone to make them afraid of him, and you made deathstroke seem like the MVP there.. Let's just say this... Batman puts you through torture, Deathstroke simply ends your life. Which is more painful? Which is the "Easier" way out? Death, of course. Why else do you think in one Comic story someone ran into deathstroke to get away from batman, he'll make you wish you were dead, let alone, becoming someone's bitch in prison while you have a Life sentence. xD Batman'l pretty much F#ck up your life.
RetroMagnet Allright you got me :P
TotalMadnessMan Flashpoint Batman was a thing
All Star Batman would be top spot. The Goddamn Batman. He roast some guys and bangs Black Canary with the flesh rotten corpses at their side.
We call him Crazy Steve
Not to say Robin also almost kills Hal Jordan. That part was funny :)
That Frank Miller though.
So?
All we need is Gollum to turn to Batman and say "Murdeeeeereeeeeer"
I think is funny for many...
except when a movie like Batman v Superman:UE, acknowledges Batman's inestability and shows a fair reason why would he lose all hope and start branding and not caring about criminals lives that much.
(and only for just a period of time that ends ... at the end of the movie, closing an arc)
sudenly many think is not faithful to the character.. even when we clearly know Batman is a dangerous, traumatized crazy hero.
Technically he never kills them directly, like the one who he threw in front of the train, the train killed him, not Batman.
kevin dellatore Have fun using that excuse in a court of law.
kevin dellatore yeah no, throwing someone infront of a train is murder
kevin dellatore Three of his exceptions are Solomon Grundy, Clayface and Darkseid. It is self-explainatory why Batman would kill them instantly than abide by his golden rule
In the movie Batman Begins he left him in the train while it crashed. He chose not save him; not throw him in front of a train.
His hands killed the joker not batman
I love this guy. Great editing and compelling narration.
and then people criticize New film Batman of killing. Plzz
+Darklarik Most of the early deaths came from when Batman was a fuzzy ripoff of The Shadow (who used two pistols and had no problem killing anyone). In later editions of the same comic the original writers then pulled a complete 180 and said that Batman *never* kills or uses guns, which was then only occasionally deviated from for the last 70 years of comic books. So yeah, he doesn't kill, and shouldn't kill. Movie writers are just lazy and don't want to think of a way to get rid of a villain besides them flying off a cliff or something.
+Peter Gorman 4:40
+Peter Gorman There are many versions of a comic book character. There is no should and shouldn't. I understand lazyness but that "never kills" is insufferable. Even in earlier movies Batman has killed some dozens.
+Johan Dale And yet people will just say that Keaton's Batman was a psychopath, and that Bale's Batman never intended to kill people.
I think it's because he's so open about it in the new one idk
Killing - baaad, on the other hand leaving thugs beaten, broken, unconscious... he can live with it.:)
+Davyen In Arkham City, I left a guy hanging like five stories up, in the freezing cold, and him and his buddies must have had fractured skulls and broken bones. I thought "There's nobody here... they're like *all* dead now. HAHA
Of course.
With all this neck snapping from batman, i think him and supes are going to be good friends in Batman vs Superman :P
"So his neck snaps" funniest line in the vid 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The neck snapping batman had me rolling too much
Having an absolute rule(s) dictate your decisions removes responsibility and accountability from the person. I find that hero that has to make the choice to kill or not in the proper situation, based on pros and cons, shows far more character than someone who just "doesn't do x".
For example, Ozymandias' actions in Watchmen. Exchange a few million to save a few billion (along with world peace and free energy for everyone). The alternative was pretty much the end of the world. Pros outweighed the cons.
With Batman, I understand he wants to be an incorruptible symbol of justice (or something), but he could have prevented that huge Joker body count years ago. Exchange two (Joker's life and his own principles) for potentially thousands of lives. Pros outweigh the cons.
That's all just from a logical position though. There are infinite, perfectly legitimate, arguments for either way.
Thank you some who finally gets it batman should put his own morals aside to do what's necessary
Batman has that rule but, to be fair he has killed and held planet apocalypse hostage. Threatened to destroy apocalypse home world.
Rev55 Darkseid.. Apocalypse is X-Men's archnemesis.. Darkseid is DC's god of evil.
I can't remember where I read it, (maybe in Knightfall?) But batman talks about how he doesn't consciously kill because that would set HIM over the edge. It's not because he thinks it's necessarily wrong morally, but that if he started to kill people he would go crazy himself.
cloudedjourney
That would actually make more sense
Batman cannot kill the joker, and joker cannot kill batman, simply because both of their lives would have no meaning without each other. Seriously look it up
Batman has other villains though... Just because joker is gone doesn't mean that there won't be people that need to be saved.
Joker died in Arkham City yet Batman doesn't need Joker to be in Arkham Knight.
Nah, joker just played such a big part in his life that batman would feel empty without him. Although he almost snapped in batman hush
Peh Yu Xiang And he did snap in the dark knight returns. Like batman said in under the red hood, It would be extremely easy for him to kill the joker. He actually wants to do it. That just goes against his moral's. If you are looking for a poetic relationship between them then i think Heath ledger put it best when he said "You wont kill me because of some misplaced sense of self righteousness , and I wont kill you, because your to much fun." Batman doesn't keep joker alive because he "needs" him.
Peh Yu Xiang Such a shitty plot point. The writers just doesn't have the balls to kill off a good character.
(cant remember what villain): "c'mon Bats, we all know you dont kill!"
Batman: "what makes you think i would leave any clues?"
You forgot Adam West Batman punching all of those bad guys into dust in the 1966 movie.
As far as I'm concerned the definitive Batman murder moment was when he killed the Joker in the Frank Miller book, The Dark Knight Returns, because of how relevant it was to the plot and his current mental condition. He even hallucinates the Jokers corpse laughing at him saying "I finally made you loose control." before it breaks it's own neck. I think that bit was bad ass.
Uuuuh he didn't, he just paralyzed him. Joker killed himself. That was the whole point of that scene.
He didn't killed Joker in The Dark Knight Returns, and Joker never said "I made you lose control", I invite you to read it again, friend.
Erik Velasco He tried to kill him.... that's the point joker was 1 little head turn from death. If you are paralyzed neck down you might as well be dead. Also literally a few sentences before when he's ruthlessly beating the shit out of joker he states that he should kill him "All the people i've murdered by letting you live".
Con Cahill He was going to kill him, but at the end he didn't, he just 'stopped' him from doing more evil.
Sorry for late response but... Yeah, he did killed the Joker. I said in another popular comment in one of these videos. Nobody seems to get that part from TDKR. Batman snaps joker's neck and then he justifies himself by that bullshit of joker auto-snapping his own neck. Proof for this? After his neck snapped Joker balloons turns grey. Grey is the color for the balloons of batman's thoughts. Thank me later.
Man, Batman is my favorite comic character and I like his code, but the old "killer" Batman was good too, and sometimes, the code also annoys me. I mean, I know that the "right" thing would never try to be above the law, since killing someone without a trial would turn him into a criminal too, but look at what the Joker did: He killed Jason Todd with a crowbar, put Barbara in a wheel chair and sexualy harassed her (don't mistake "sexualy harass" for "rape". We don't know if she was raped), tortured Jim Gordon and made him see his daughter being tortured. And not to speak about all of the others he killed, many of them by poisoning and seing them die with a smile on their face. Is kind of obvious this guy don't deserve to live, when, while living, we know he will keep killing as many people as he can. If the Arkham can't hold this psycho there for to long, kill him. It looks wrong to kill someone without a trial, but when this "someone" is the Joker, you can be happy to know that you are about to spare dozens of inocents lives.
Malkren Lecter Agree, it's uncomfortable that Batman lets thousands of people die, just so he can live up to his code and say "I'm better than that." He puts a higher price on his personal peace of mind than the people that get murdered by the criminals he could have stopped.
Malkren Lecter Batman is as crazy as the villains he fights. Think of his one rule as a wall that protects his sanity. If he breaks his one rule he will kill everyone. Think about it. How many times has Batman held back from using his full potential? After all he was trained by other assassins. If Batman kills Joker he will become worst than the Joker himself and that's what makes his story so wonderful to read he is a man with no fear except of becoming what he fears the most.
Armando C Batman's biggest fear is becoming that which he fights against. Which is why the code is in place. However in the Joker's case they seriously just need to execute him. Joker's whole motivation is to get Batman to break that code because they all know that if Batman officially goes off the hinges to the darkside. Whose stopping him? The only people who would even stand a chance are the Flash, or every Single on of his proteges together. The reason I say Flash is because really Batman loses in a straight up fight between them. Tho Batman would of course be prepared for that so Like I said. He'd stand a chance
ThePolishedSpartan The idea is that killing the Joker would break batman's already cracked psyche, and then nothing would stop him from becoming a mass murderer as he enforces his own justice above the law. He's already walking a thin line as it is.
Not to mention that he beats the crap out of Harley for his amusement, shoots batgirl in the spine, and killing talia in arkham city
In one Batman comic I read--I can't remember the number--Batman believes The Joker killed one of his friends and he nearly kills him until Commissioner Gordon steps in and stops him, saying he'd hunt him down like a criminal if he did in fact go ahead and kill The Joker.
I think Batman should kill the Joker.
The Joker is Batman's big bad. His opposite, his equal, the Ying to his Yang, the Reverse-Flash to his Flash. However, if you wanted Joker to win. To finally break Batman, to do something so bad, to push Batman so far that he would kill him, Kill the Joker, it would be the greatest Batman vs Joker story ever because it would be bittersweet, realistic and it would make people really thin about...all the stuff it would make you think about. Also because i really like The Dark Knight Returns.
Or you could have Batman 'win' and not kill Joker, however the price of letting him live would weigh him down forever and the (probably) deaths of those he's killed and scared for life would always eat away at him, making him realize that despite the fact that he 'beat' the Joker, he still lost.
Wow, there really is no winning when you're against the Joker is there...?
The Flash tried to kill Reverse Flash at least once.
Devious J Tried to? He did once.
Mad Hatter I don't care
Kester That's nice.
Mad Hatter I mean it depends on the kind of superhero you are. Iron Man would fire one of those little tiny pin missiles from the first movie into Joker's skull and just be done with it. Joker doesn't win anything there.
What about all the deaths during the Gotham Gang War or the Brother Eye storylines? Batman is directly responsible for both set of problems.
Another non-canon murder committed by Batman is in All-Stat Batman and Robin. Where he sets a number of thugs on fire then has sex with Black Canary
thats hot
All Star batman and Robin is canon? Learn something new everyday.
***** I see you skipped the "non" part of non-canon
ranwolf76 Oh whoops, you're right I totally blocked out the "Non" part.
Not sure why people blame Batman for the crimes committed by the criminals he defeats. The Joker's constant escape from Arkham and continued killing sounds more like a failure on the part of the legal system than Batman's morals. I'm sure if the courts decided the Joker should be sentenced to death Batman wouldn't interfere, so it makes no sense to put the blame solely on Batman when he's just trying to let the law work as it should.
Exactly.
Except everyone knows Batman is the only one who can truly stop Joker. Obviously Gordon doesn't want Batman to go down that road and Batman doesn't want to either but it's hard not to feel some guilt when you know you can end a monster like the Joker permanently whenever you choose and don't. Especially when that monster continues to kill and do some really atrocious things. It just puts Batman between a rock and a hard place.
xboxcomplicated You're missing my point. I'm not denying that Batman is one of the select few who can stop the Joker, I'm saying that it's unreasonable to pin the blame on him when the law should have put the Joker down for good in accordance to his crimes. If I understand correctly, the Joker has killed an accumulation of hundreds if not thousands in his criminal career, but for some reason hasn't been sentenced to death as he should be. If the courts, a design by committee, ruled that the Joker not to be sentenced to death for his crimes, then why is the responsibility on Batman all of a sudden?
Batman, for all his vigilantism, still functions in the same as a police officer, more specifically a detective does. He apprehends criminals and turns them over for due process. Last time I checked, by law cops aren't allowed to kill suspects as they see fit, and on the other end should not be burdened with the responsibility to end the life of a criminal, no matter how heinous said criminal might be. This same logic applies to Batman as well. He's trying to put the power back into the hands of the city, the people. If even the people aren't willing to demand the death of Joker when the man has been put behind bars so many times, then it's unreasonable to pass that burden to Batman. And again, if the Joker was actually sentenced to death, Batman would not intervene as it would be a decision made by the law. The failure of the legal system to do so is not Batman's responsibility.
GekkanShounen You make excellent points but you forget a few things. The first is that its Gotham we're talking about. A city so corrupt the League of Shadows was able to infiltrate every level of its infastructure. Batman may have cleaned things up considerably but to call the legal system in Gotham "just" would probably be quite a stretch. Even if that weren't true, it's the Joker we're talking about! I finally understood why while reading Batman: Hush but the answer is obvious. Joker never goes to prison when he's apprehended. He goes to Arkham, which while it may feel like one, is not exactly a prison. It's an Asylum for the criminally insane. Joker is never sentenced to death because he is declared insane. During the trial for the brutal murder of Jason Todd, 4 different psychologists give testimony that the Joker is insane! This is how he manages to escape true punishment for his crimes. Joker is insanity and chaos. Our system permits the mentally ill to receive teatment but we know Joker will never be "cured". The only way he will ever permantly be stopped is if Batman stops him. Joker is basically a loophole in the legal system and Batman can't help but be burdened with the responsibility of constantly stopping him and the guilt of not doing so indefinitely to insure he will never do it again.
I will say though, it is surprising no cops or other inmates have ever just killed him. Then again, who'd try? I'm sure Joker's reputation precedes him. In the Arkham Asylum videogame, inmates cheer Joker on as he's brought into Arkham yet again.
xboxcomplicated If Joker was just your average insane serial killer who somehow managed to escape confinement frequently, I would have less of a problem with the comic logic. The problem is that his eventual resume was that of a mass murderer, someone who supposedly filled graveyards with his misdeeds. No amount of insanity plea can get you out of something like that. Just imagine in real life that there's someone who killed off thousands of people in your community, in the modern internet age no less. There is no amount of red tape and government corruption that would stop people from reacting through rioting and protesting to deal with the Joker. People throw rioting fits when there's a single murder if ethnicity or sexual violence is involved, there's no way there's no outrage regarding the Joker. Also, the government corruption of Gotham has barely anything to do with the Joker. As far as I understand, the various mafia, like the Penguin, are the ones who have their hands in influencing the officials, and most of them hate the Joker too. So the Joker getting off easy is more due to sloppy writing than anything else.
The fact that it still remains solely Batman's issue to face is just because comics are unrealistic. Mind you, I'm well aware that super hero comics are unrealistic to begin with but some of the premise has to somewhat reflect reality in order for this discussion about Batman's moral obligations to take place.
If some reality was applied, the Joker would quickly cease to be solely a Gotham problem and turn into a federal government issue. Laws would be passed for his unique case of a civilian mass murderer, branded a danger to humanity, insanity or no, and given a lethal injection and maybe the electric chair for shits and giggles if someone feels cheeky. Of course, the reason it doesn't end that way is because the writers need a marketable villain, we all know that. Still, my original point stands. If Joker's insanity plea exempts him from a death sentence or even a harsher prison, even after killing hundreds to thousands of US citizens, something that would definitely catch the attention of the entire nation, then it doesn't automatically fall onto Batman to kill him to end the threat anymore than it should burden you or I.
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You're videos are great and hilarious!
So when did the whole "Never kill" thing started with Batman anyways? I've only seen this rule applied to some of the animated series I've watched.
The "No Kill" rule started back in the 40's.He also never killed anyone in current comic continuity.
There was a comic in the early days where batman used submachine guns and there was so much blood that parents complained, and the editor said no guns or killing
It's a bit more than that, the "no gun" rule was actually developed long before Robin or the comics code. It started with his original origin story, which was told almost a year after Batman's debut...
TGuy Law "Long before Robin"? Robin was introduced 11 months after Batman's first appearance...
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Excuse my misinformation, then. My point was still that it was all part of developing Batman into the true vigilante we know him as today and not something that was forced onto him by angry parents and just stuck.
Batman should kill every villain he encounters and hang them around Gotham. That'd send a message.
No shit.
Batman wants criminals to be afraid of him
What happens with those who aren't afraid?
Red Hood is right, killing them would help the city a lot more.
Like aren't heroes supposed to be a symbol of hope. By killing all his enemies sure he sends the message to other criminals, but do little kids really need to go to sleep at night knowing there's a big dude who runs around dressed as a bat Murdering people without any restraint, you gotta think of the kids man...what really needs to happen is the death sentence should be issued to all those wackos by the po-po, but there's the problem, you can't legally sentence insane people to death, no matter what they do, you can only send them to an asylum, from which they escape...and we've come full circle, the only solution is clearly deportation, deport the joker to Antarctica.
Can't stop watching these, so great!
Your humor is pure my friend!
You forgot to mention that early Batman also used a gun, and killed people with it.
kill the joker? ?? didn't Tim Drake do that in BATMAT BEYOND : Return of the joker.. which I LOVE THAT MOVIE
+Alex Livathinos He did. It was a horrible and tragic scene.
Batmat beyond? :P
The best bits of batman are when he clearly kills people but nobody acknowledges it. Especially when it's done in such a ridiculous fashion.
Comic Tropes did a really good every time Batman killed list, it's super funny.
Shhhhh there sleeping.
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+Benjamin Jestel I vote "therr"
+Benjamin Jestel Doctor Fishy...NOOOOOOOO!
I saw that video too
+DeXesbot No, College HUMOR
A lot of trouble would be solved if he killed the joker. I wouldn't want him to do it.. Just saying.
@1:54 "I guess they were bad ninjas though, so ....you know, don't worry about it " lmao
This was awesome!
What? Batman kills? I thought he only killed in BvS.
Not even close. He only cover a fraction
he has killed in every major Batman movie
Especially in Keaton's days.
+Executive 1 yeah like banes death
Are you MaxMoeFoe? You sound just like him
He sounds nothing like MaxMoeFoe, idiot...
PronssiMuna123 Except he does.
Brandon Taccino My name is Mr Sunday Movies and you're wathing my fucking video
If Batsty kills the Joker, the Joker wins. He has a deathwish. He wants to die. If Batman kills him, he's giving in.
" I vow not to kill my enemies, otherwise I'm am no better than them." he says then a few moments later brutally snapping someone's neck.
I'm glad the new film version of Batman has no problem with killing. That's the good shit.
+MightyCoont Totally! It's his brutality in the film that turns me so on
Well I just think that he just sprays guns to wound, as we never see him explicitly killing a person in front of him. One point that people argue is when he's pursuing the kryptonite and blows up the vehicles, we don't know that they were killed as in various other media, like Arkham Knight, they still survive.
+Amir Pourghoureiyan They are fucking dead.
+MightyCoont Then why is Joker still alive if he's fine with murder?
+Troy Terry I'm guessing it's like how he brands certain criminals and have them handed to the police instead of killing them... Or perhaps the Joker may be clever enough to buy his way out from death, who knows... Maybe suicide squad might tell us more about it...
The character has almost 70 years, we can define his core personality as following: strong moral compass, genius intelect, world greatest detective, master of every know martial art, peak body condition, master strategist, filthy rich, etc.. Of course he didn't had all these traits right at the gate, but those aspects can be considered the core, the foundation of Batman. Different types of media uses this structure for decades.
The no kill rule is the strongest one because it is the most prominient trait of the character. As show in the video, theres moments that Batman even saves his enemies. Joker uses this against him many times and so on. It is his weakness and, at the same time, his greatest virtue. If you took that from the character, he becomes a lesser Punisher. We can have a brute Batman who fights like a tank (as show in BvS), a Batman who acts like a ninja, a Batman who does 0 detective work, a Batman with average intelect, etc, etc... All those things can be forggiven. But a Batman who kills at cold-blood? Indirect kills are bad enough, but a Batman who kills people with true murder intent, a batman who wants to stab superman to death with a spear?? This is not Batman, jesus... The no-kill rule is a part of the character, it is his soul. Apologists try to defend BvS using the argument that Batman kills in DKR. NO, he doesn't kill on that comic. Even on an alternative universe, a dystopian future, a hellhole... Even with all the motivations, that Batman DON'T kill. He never crossed the line.
Ya done missed the point.
BvS Batman was a FALLEN Batman. A Batman who had lost his ideals after decades of struggles and emotional wear. He had become the very thing he hated.
Do you honestly believe that they just had Batman acting that way for the heck of it with no reasoning?
He had lost his ideals and become a monster. Superman showed him what he had turned into, and he decided to change.
(PS: Stop ignoring Batman's many kills throughout comic/film history because it doesn't fit your flimsy argument.)
Noah G of course they showed batman acting like that for the heck of it with no reason. It's Snyder, what did you expect? In a visual standpoint, in his mind a cruel and killer batman is more "cool". He even say that in interviews. And I don't ignore his killing throughout the years, I said that his core development don't involved killing. So much so that those are very rare examples. And even if we consider your argument that he became a monster, why this monster don't killed the joker already?
Rafael Teles Your devotion to ignorance and stupidity is... impressive, I suppose.
If you paid attention during Man of Steel, or if you paid attention during Batman v Superman, or if you've listened to anything that the people involved have continually said, it's that *they aren't taking these characters for granted.* Nothing about Batman is taken for granted. That includes his "no-kill" rule. They decided that, given the context, with their version of Batman (as a fallen hero), Bruce would not care about committing manslaughter and causing death of criminals so long as lives were at stake. Not to mention it's far more realistic--you don't wage a war on crime for 20 years without causing some death.
And another thing, you people really need to stop pulling garbage claims out of nowhere. Batman has ALWAYS been brutal and cruel. You act as if he's only ever been some sort of gentle soul when in reality he's caused death in comics and films in numerous different incarnations since the beginning.
Again, if you were paying attention, you'd know that Batman was only being as brutal as he was because Superman had the power to decimate the ENTIRE human race. Every brutal, violent action he took was done "for the survival of the human race" in his eyes.
That's a *slightly* bigger threat than the Joker.
Asserting that Snyder and all the filmmakers involved have NO reason to have their characters act the way they do is immensely pretentious and makes you look, surprise surprise, ignorant and stupid because surprise surprise, you're incredibly and completely incorrect.
Use your brain. Educate yourself. Stop devoting yourself to ignorant opinions.
"Even on an alternative universe, a dystopian future, a hellhole... Even with all the motivations, that Batman DON'T kill. He never crossed the line".
*Vampire Batman laughs from a distance*
Lmao I love the ending xD Human shields 4 lyfe
When Ras Al Ghoul returned after that Batman Annual he tells Batman "those weren't my ashes you saw". So some person was indeed killed there.
I think Batman should kill everyone, the bad, the good and himself. But not Robin. Just leave Robin alone in the world trying to find some meaning to his existence. Screw Batman vs Superman, I want to see Robin vs No one.
Kimmo Laaksonen a.k.a. Batman kills the DC Universe...
At 6:10 does the joker have 6 fingers?
i suppose joker has a penis thumb
no its just his second hand in the background
I'm thinking that's his right hand in profile
Dude, these commentary videos are pretty funny.
Good job
Batman you killed! Have I robin... HAVE I!
Should Batman kill the Joker? The real question is why hasn't he? There is no way in any dimension, that he can ever be redeemed. Jason Todd put it best., he gives a better argument than I ever could.
On the topic, there are other villains that should probably be considered a lost cause:
Ra's al Ghul: If he hasn't changed in over 600 years, he ain't gonna start now.
Zsasz: ....Look this guy just flat out needs to die. Hell, knowing him he'll probably be happier that way.
Mad Hatter: I pity him, but that twisted little man ought be sent to Wonderland permanently.
Above all however, Joker has to be stopped, cause every time Bats holds back, it bites him right in the ass.
"Do you know how many people I've murdered by letting you live?
Dark Knight Returns-
*****"I've never kept count"
Joker.
I find it more ridiculous that no Arkham or Blackgate guard has killed any of the patients/prisoners. Even some doctor could easily give someone the lethal dose and some cop could just straight up shoot the Joker to his cell.
the reason is easy joker as a name alone=more $$$$$$$$ then batman
if batman killed the joker then DC will have less=money
and its official from DC/WB themself that joker&batman>>>>>>>all of the justice league
and batgod weakness is a trap-door
It's YOUR fault batman killed so many people in BVS! If Snyder hadn't gotten inspiration from this video we would have gotten a better batman!
No. David S Goyer is a fucking hack. Even Rob Liefeld would call him a failure.
Or maybe Snyder just cares more about context-driven characterization than arbitrary and unrealistic "rules" of a character who's seen scores of wildly different iterations over the decades.
But sure, keep whining.
It's just a joke.
brigham bentley Well, who can tell when somebody's kidding about something like that?
There are loads of people so blinded by idiotic rage towards this movie that I'm certain there isn't an accusation they wouldn't make, however baseless and moronic.
I dont think the companys cares about videos on TH-cam except if it got millions and millions of views maybe so yea this is only a joke.
"What a bloody legend"
U the best.....love ur work...
this is why superman is better than batman hes only killed twice in the comics im currently reading 40s Superman he let one bad guy die in an explosion but he never snapped any necks.
in the comics ive read Superman only killed zod and doomsday but nothing like these batman ones
my favorite batman stories are year one,long halloween ,dark victory and knightfall
Batman's "no killing" rule eventually made his comics downright unreadable for me.
I'm definitely on team "kill the joker."
You forgot one crucial detail Mr.SundayMovies. You see, none of these really count. You wanna know why? It's BECAUSE HE'S BATMAN!
"dance like nobody's watching" lol
I definitely think that Batman should kill the Joker. The Joker is a just a monster that just does what it does for the hell of it, and Batman would be doing the greater good in killing him.
And I bet that there will be some comic book elitists that will tell me that it's all just a game to the Joker and Batman killing him will ensure his victory, BUT COME ON, everything's a game to the Joker.
And if Batman keeps playing it with him, thousands more will die. Batman is all like "I won't kill anyone. That goes against my moral compass and it makes me no better than the Joker". YOUR MORAL COMPASS IS A FUCKING ROULETTE WHEEL, BATMAN!!!
And it doesn't make you a better person? You'd be killing one man in exchange for thousands of innocent, happy people, you're a way better man than the Joker, who kills just for shits and giggles.
So just kill him Batman, for the gods, and other peoples, sake!
***** Good point. However, an execution via an electric chair takes time and preparation, possibly giving the Joker enough time to hatch up a plan to escape and murder more people. So I think it should go like this; Batman sees the Joker, Batman kills the Joker.
I can understand him letting small threats live like generic thugs. But people who kill thousands of people should not be given a second chance.
+Ricardo Santos The joker is insane. He's been deemed insane from courts. He can't be executed by anything. That includes gas chamber, electric chair, lethal injection or whatever. The only thing that could kill him would be a freak accident, murder (don't count on it being by Batman) or age.
+AstroManX100 Well said.
Batman's a bullshit character. Sometimes, to do the right thing you must do a wicked thing. Sometimes, to protect one thing you must destroy another. That's how the world works and everyone knows it at some level, yet Batman gets a free pass cause he's...Batman? I guess? He should have snapped The Joker's neck before he had the chance to murder hundreds. But no. His precious little "moral code", which is based on a technicality (and let's be honest, it's probably more of a cleverly designed plot device to keep a "dark" hero from killing off all his rivals) almost always prevents him. Sure. He can be a vigilante and break the law at every turn. And shatter countless bones. And confine countless thugs to wheelchairs. Or indirectly cause many deaths. Or disfigure peoples' faces to his heart's content. But so long as he doesn't literally reach out his hands and strangle someone to death, it's all good, kids! Bullshit.
Oh, man. Poor Batman and his inner conflict. He's scared of going crazy with bloodlust so he does "the right thing" and spares people who've earned a death sentence ten times over. How righteous? How tragic? How retarded. He values the preservation of his personal character over the lives of literally thousands of people. That sounds like a hero to people? Sounds like a self-important asshole who's afraid to get his hands dirty while people are being killed by the dozen because of his inability to show resolve.
Tru Dat!!!!!
That video was so awesome I watched it twice!!
Can’t forget when Batman just tied Owlman to a bomb and teleported him away. Like you definitely killed him.
Wow, the Killing Joke Theory really gets me. What a great idea. I've read this comic many many many years ago and i never thought of that.
I always come back to this video. It's a classic, just so funny!
just to point out something most people don't know about batman, and even early batman.
he carries a derranger pistol in his utility belt. he has since the creation considering he's supposed to be the super hero version of james bond and Sherlock holmes combined. it standed to reason to bob kane that he'd need a gun.
now he's never used this gun but it was listed in his inventory of weapons he always carried. and as far as I know, it's never really been removed from then to now
Early Batman reminded me of Liam Neeson breaking people's necks in the Taken series.
Kinda bummed that blowing up a factory full of henchmen (Tim Burton's first Batman film) or locking KGBeast in a airtight room (sometime in the comics) got left out.
oh my gawd, im laughing so hard
Its comics. Joker exists so that he can fight Batman, because there will be a fun and interesting story. Joker will escape whenever a new story needs to be written. Its that simple. When Both Batman and Joker are properties that stop making money for people, then maybe Joker might definitively be killed or locked up. they're more than just characters, they're moneymakers. That makes them immortal until this changes.
Oh, don't forget in Arkham knight, when he electrocutes a goon by shoving their head into a generator, or, the one where he drops a lamp on a goons head, or the one where he shoots a goon with a 40mm canon from his Batmobile. Need I go on?
For plot reasons, those methods are apparently non-lethal
Martin Rosenmuller Right, It doesn't make much sense.
GregDoesGaming Yeah, well neither does giving people crippling injuries and leaving them in the middle of a winter night, with them somehow surviving.
Santeri Ruotsala But thats okay, because Batman!
Thanks for the replacements for the last two murders, how polite!
the way you say *man* and *neck* is very enthusiastic
#1 the joker one at the end looks like he was going for the heart and was about to rip it out lol
Batman: You break the law, I break your neck
Thomas Wayne as Batman backstabbing Zoom with a sword is way better than Batman exploding a heli.
"What a good sport"
I can't stop laughing regarding ohh I don't know for snap necking
Love it!
batman was like "WHOOPS" :)))
What? He flat-out pushed Two-Face off of a building.
So basically...main modern Batman doesn’t kill.
I think the “no killing” came about as a way to keep good villains. And the comic decency laws. It probably became most engraved in people’s minds from the Animated Series where they made much more to-do about it.