The main problem with the "Squad" Joker is that he kept trying to rescue Harley. One of the main points of Joker/Harley's disfunctional relationship is that Harley will do *anything* for Joker...and Joker will do *nothing* for her, unless it happens to be something he's doing (usually, Bat related) and she's "on the way."
Joker is a passionate person. Joker being passionate for Harley does not ruin his character. Its a change from the comics, but those don't have to be bad and the comics themselves change over time in each retelling. This isn't the Heath Ledger version of the Joker, its a Joker more like the Jack Nicholson Joker who is capable of having a gang, not killing all of them without reason because Chaos... The Joker/Harley relationship from the comics and TV series always left a bad taste in my mouth as too much. In a lot of ways Heath Ledgers Joker is great in a one shot movie, but who in their right mind would choose to work with/for that Joker? Leto is building a Joker that is unpredictable, but capable of building long term alliances.
Jared Letos joker has tattoos that basically say “I’m insane” and he wears metal teeth, and drives a super car. Goes to clubs, and wears jewelry. None of those traits relate to the actual joker. #longliveheath
@@roxyfoxyyy7 that's not Jared letos take on the joker. It was the bad writers take on the joker. I believe if it wasn't for the bad writers he'd be a good joker. I don't care how famous the actor may be. Everything goes the way the producers and directors wants it to go. Actors have almost no say so in the matter.
Leto's joker was so fucking cringy lmao Not just the acting, but the look altogether. Joker having a fucking silver grill was enough to make me regret spending money on the ticket to go see Suicide Squad.
I just feel so sorry for Jared Leto, it's like you did a HUGE homework assignment the you put so much time and effort and then for some reason the teacher says she didn't need it anymore
Urg that happened to me before! I had a geography project due, we had like 6weeks to do, I spent ages on it, finally the day had came to show our projects and it turned out we was getting a new geography teacher, all that hard work and no one ever got to show if. A few days after that I saw our class projects in the bin. (This happened like a year ago) I was so pissed.
i CABAL i 16 year old girl here, who went to go see it in the cinema with her teenage girl group of friends... I LOVED nothing, absolutely nothing about the movie. Grew up with the intriguing psycho Joker from cartoon dc tv shows, this was 7/10 as disappointing as DCEU's Lex Luther
J- Rich although he did sign the contract jared said he felt tricked into playing the joker, read some interviews and news on it. Some people however twisted what he said and claim that jared swore at WB for how suicide squad turned out. But tht was false he swore at WB because of a part that said jared cant fo mountain climbing which he than swore at. Plus jared doesnt event watch his own movies
Cass Ott that’s fair. But ledger is really the only messy looking joker. Leto just looks so much cleaner than others because he’s shirtless half the time and it makes his pale skin too bright and noticeable and his hair was a much brighter green too
@@Quoteunquot3 While Ledger's and Phoenix's Joker were a representation of Nihilism and the embracement of the psychological "shadow", Leto's Joker looked just like some stupid gangster that lost his mind-- he labeled himself, wearing jewelry and tattoos-- the complete opposite of Joker's Nihilism.
@@Pan8oy What does nihilism even have to do with this? You're saying clowns are the opposite of nihilism? I don't get why people think it's enough to insert the word "nihilism" in a text to make it seem "deep".
Just wanted to point out the club scene. The tattooed guy makes a comment about Harley, we see Joker make a face (along with a weird editing visual cue), and then Joker offers Harley to the man. It was clear to me, that the joker, for whatever reason, was irked by the comment, and put the man in a no win situation. He takes Harley, it shows he is willing to take another man's woman, he refuses her (as he does) he is insulting the Jones's generosity. A no win situation like that was very Joker esque. At least to me.
ohh let me try tattoo man (looks at harley) "your a lucky man, you got a bad b%*@h" (weird scene thing) (joker points at harley) "all she is, the fire in my woods, the itch in my crotch, I give you the one, the only infamous HARLEY QUINN" (Her dancing) (joker whistles) harley "puddin" joker "come to daddy, now,you are my gift to this...handsome Hunka, Hunka, you work for him now" (she sits on tattoo guys lap comments something, joker looks jealous) (tattoo man looks at him) "hey i don't want no beef" joker "ahh you want no beef? you want no beef?" harley "what you don't like me fine I'll take my business somewhere else then" tattoo man "nah joker that's your girl" joker "haha that's right" tattoo "yo j, J!" (BANG) and scene thank you
Heath Ledger's Joker was very dark, cunning, and anarchic. Jack Nicholson's Joker was whimsical, psychotic, and energetic. Jared Ledo's Joker was gangster, unstable, and cynical.
Exactly. Jared Leto's interptretation of the Joker is an unstable, megomaniac who will do whatever to takes to get his way. He IS a force a nature: The nature of impulse, and impatience. ALL of his scenes from the movie exemplify this: He tries to free Harley Quinn 3 times, and succeeds on the third try. Each time he barely thinks things through. He impulsively kills a gangbanger after impulsively offering Harley Quinn to him. When the Joker crashes, he impulsively swims away and leaves Harley behind, only to regret this later. This version of Joker is very well defined and if we get an extended edition, hopefully this will become more clear to the general public.
You're wrong. The beautiful thing about the Joker is that there are multiple versions/interpretations of him. So while you may prefer one over the other, that doesn't make one truly better then the other.
All the Jokers are great in their own way. All these videos compairing them needs to stop. All actor did the Joker in their own fashion great. Leto's is my new fave.
This version of the Joker seemed forced and wooden. My god, they actually had "Damaged" tattooed on his forehead. At least we didn't find out the Joker's mom's name was Martha.
The damaged tattoo referenced his knocked out teeth in the comics oracle got back at him and broke his teeth it actually made him all depressed and angry at the thought of his smile being damaged but in this version it was Batman
I agree, they marketed wrong, made it look like he was the big next coming. I thought his portrayal had alot of promise but was wasted on this overhyped mess...really disappointed almost feel robbed of what could have been a really good performance...
I loved Jared Leto's Joker and I didn't think Suicide Squad was a bad movie at all. I'm not sure why it got so many terrible reviews. It was way better than Thor 2 or Batman vs. Superman, or even Avengers 2. I saw Suicide Squad as an introduction to those characters for people who don't read comic books. Nicholson was horrible as the Joker, Ledger was awesome but lacked the sense of whimsy the Joker often has, while I thought Leto got the mix right. With the Joker, you can never really ask, 'to what end?' because the 'end' makes sense only in his insane mind. I saw this movie as a jumping off point for the Joker in future films with Batman or one featuring a more in-depth story about the Joker and Harley Quinn's relationship- even a second Suicide Squad. I think a lot of the problem was in the advertising. The Joker is not one of the main characters in Suicide Squad, so I did not expect to see much of him in it, while all of the advertising focused very heavily on the Joker, so by the time you see the film almost all of his scenes had already been shown in the trailers. Had they made it clear that the Joker was to have a smaller role viewers would have known it going in and might not have been as disappointed.
I'm tired of this "Leto didn't get enough screen time to judge" cop out. Seeing more of this version wouldn't change opinions, it would only reinforce them. Ledger sold everybody within his first two minutes of screen time. Hell, if all we had ever seen of his Joker was the pencil scene, people wouldn't be saying "I dunno, he didn't get enough screen time to judge." They'd be saying "Joker was fucking awesome! Why didn't he get more screen time??"
Heath Ledger I think is the worst Joker ever because he works like a villain but not as a Joker. The Joker has to be 50% mad and 50% funny and charismatic and Nolan made him 100% crazy and Leto made him about 80% crazy but he still felt like the Joker and Ledger didn't.
As good as Ledgers preformance is he is not the Joker..he is just some lunatic that puts make-up,not funny, not charismatic at all. Honestly can you imagine Ledgers Joker having a relationship with Harley? I cant. That is to say Im not defending Letos Joker as i did not watch the movie but imo he looks more like the Joker than Ledger.
joker had 4 minutes of screen time nothing to do with the main plot yet still being compared to heath who had basically the entire movie surrounding him and obviously had much much more screentime so we can't just simply say leto was the worst when there was barley anything to judge off of and he wasn't the main focus
Well if we just compare their introduction scenes. Ledger was way more charismatic and funny. It just took the pencil trick and he had us. While Leto seemed just weird, he wasn't really scary to me, I didn't like how sexual he was, wasn't really funny or clever, he was just.."Meh". Of course deleted scenes could change my mind but until then I'm sticking to my guns.
@@mikel5163 Well to be fair, he didn't have much to work with. He played the role of over exaggerated, obnoxious, wannabe edgelord joker, as what the movie intreperted it to be, quite well. Still, i doubt that he would've been close Ledger and Phoenix even given a proper script
I never seen the movie. Butt i hate the fact that he has a "damaged" tatto on his forhead. Like some middle schooled emo teenage girl that draws fake tattos on their arms
It was confusing. It's like The Joker knew of the pop-culture interpretation of The Joker, and tried to copy that, without understanding that it's just a crude xerox that barely captures any detail. "Oh, he's pointlessly insane, and loves laughter and smiles and whatnot." He's unrealistic and flat, as a character. Heath Ledger made him a believable character.
Viktor Rebake I know right I can't see how people love this joker especially the guys cause I know the women just want to see Leto shirtless. I had to watch the dark knight after watching Leto to get that bad taste in my mouth
Goerge Sefer meh that's the audience they were clearly aiming for with both Harley and Joker especially their relationship, which was way off from the comics and as its own thing was unrealistic
we love this joker cuz its something new its diff then the others these actors dosent have to play joker the same way as the others do want ull haters go deep in a room wit nothing on no sound just think of it as a crazy house with no windows hese actors play joker the way they see it not the way ull see it sorry but ull dint have to go deep into that carter like they did
Danielle Merriweather just because "it's something new" doesn't make it a good interpretation. Joker has changed a lot over the years with Mark hamill, Jack Nicholson, Troy baker, and Heath ledger they were all different interpretations but they all kept the same spirit of the joker. Letos interpretation is too modernized and he doesn't feel as natural in his acting. Heath ledger spent days and hours writing in his notebook learning how to be crazy he internalized that behavior. Leto just felt like someone working at a haunted house just kinda acting random because that's his job
Wonder woman and Batman movies have to be Blockbusters to keep this awful franchise alive!cant believe how much warner bros dropped overall in fan service and the producers throw everything in every movie but just to say "Theres your fav character and what they do!".
His problem was he acted like he did amazing before the movie was released He saw what Heath ledger did and thought it would be easy then Phoenix came along and kicked the sh*t out of his version of joker and now he is sulking when he tried to cancel Joker
This comment and replies here just confirms exactly what the video as saying. Leto did a great job and joker was good but they didn't use joker the best way they could so it makes it seems like joker was not played well but it has to do with the writers or producers
+Aiden Pierce Leto had more relation to this Joker. stop calling the Nolan version because it isn't even canon and the Joker in that adaption had ZERO human relationships. last time I checked, that was the entire point of acting. not taking away from Ledger(GREAT for a movie, TERRIBLE for a comic.)
idiots these are two completely different worlds heath's joker was in a realistic world as the director wanted, Leto's was in a world where supernatural exists no correlation between these two jokers you cant compare them
Not fair to compare Ledger's Joker to Leto's for 3 reasons. 1. Heath's Joker was the big bad of TDK. He was the driving force behind the plot. 2. Ledger's Joker had almost 3x more screen time. 3. Ledger's Joker, like Bale's Batman, is a more comic book inspired character, than adapted. Look at the DCEU, characters are very much adapted from the comics. Some have the odd change but mostly they're the same. I liked what I saw from Leto, except a few things. Like his snorting when he'd look at that dude. Or his blank stare at times. Joker is supposed to be very emotive. Ultimately, it's really not fair to say you hated a character that had fuck all to do with the plot and fuck all screen time. If he's in the Batfleck solo movie, and he's the main villain, then we can decide if he's good or bad.
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Definitely. He was not given enough screen time to properly portray his version of the character, especially after Ledger's phenomenal performance. To be hyped up in all the trailers, posters and other marketing just to have less than 10 minutes of screen time, doesn't seem fair.
He tried way to hard. He should've just been his own interpretation of the Joker. IMO the joker from dead end was better😂 (like if u get that reference)
Even if they were making him the GANGSTER version of the Joker, this isn’t even an actual gangster. If they wanted to make him a gangster while still keeping him like the Joker, they should have given him a dark purple suit, and make him act like Tommy from Goodfellas. David Ayer made him what people THINK gangsters are like, but real gangsters are intimidating, well dressed men who can get in your head, and Jared Leto would’ve been GREAT at that role, whereas this Joker just seems like somebody who’s trying to be in an Eminem music video
DC should stop trying to compete with Marvel with creating a cinematic universe, and instead just concentrate on making one good film and then go on from there.
As someone who loves both dc and marvel. The dc movies do not feel as if they are trying to compete at all, the term is cannibalization. someone comes up with an innovative formula, like Moba games for example. Then a bunch of other developers make their own take, some worse, some better. DC isn't trying to perfectly mimic marvel, they are doing their own thing. They also aren't rushing the cinematic universe contrary to popular belief, because the pacing of multiple previous instances of DC have gone at this pace in the past |: Just never on the big screen.
+Captain Halo They are trying to compete with Marvel regarding cinematic universes though. They are not copying Marvel but it's stupid to say that the massive amounts of world building in the last two films are not related to DC trying to catch up.
Jane Ross Lmao, This joker is a stereotypical mafia leader. The joker is supposed to be a creepy boi, who doesn’t care about money, who doesn’t care about women, he just cares about causing chaos.
@@lukasfotto328 absolutely, this is the most rubbish Joker. Doesn't resemble the character, and doesn't resemble anything interesting on its own merits either, even if it was meant to be an original character. The film definitely let the role down and you can see he's trying to make something of what he was given, but it's clear nobody knew what they were doing, and there's still no saving this interpretation whatever cut of the film you have access to. Then again that goes for the whole film in general. Such bad versions of so many of those characters...
@@silversmoke4159 that's makes no sense what do ever why would he risk his own life he that was true he has no reason to than he could be sent someone else
@@jessejive117 It's a continuation of SwirlyJoe's remark that changed everything the character that Leto played was, I just added that if he's changing so many things might as well also change Leto for an actor that cared more about his portrayal of the character he's supposed to be playing rather than doing all his bullshit method acting pranks. In other words, Leto is as much to blame and should've been changed.
@@jessejive117 regardless of whatever you want to add to justify his "method acting" bullshit, he is clearly not a very beloved Joker and if that means he ain't returning, I'm happy with that.
I'm sorry but Leto's Joker has a laugh that sounds like a creaky door. He was never a proper fit for Joker although he is a fantastic actor all the same.
Liam Galinato all she did was flash her ass and spit one liners not to mention her and boomerang dint even feel they belong in the movie like what exactly made them so elite to be part of the most bad people squad? , insanity shouldnt = super power , what should the next big super hero/antihero be the crazy cat lady everyone talks about flinging cats as combat weapons? lol
I think that if the Joker had been the villain, the movie would've been way better. I didn't mind Letos Joker, but I agree with you, they just didn't know what to do with him, and he doesn't stand out like other versions have
Dude think about that statement. I respect your opinion but the entire Suicide Squad against the Joker? Joker wouldn't last 10 seconds against them. Okay Okay so how would he beat Enchantress by herself. What about Diablo? Deadshot?...etc. Joker is an interesting character but lets not over rate him. Interesting and not powerful, so no he shouldn't be the major villain unless they're trying to kill him off.
Agreed, Leto did a great job, but the character was poorly written. He didn't seem very evil, or very crazy. He was just some random mobster, who happened to look a bit like a clown, and his only motivation throughout the movie was to save his girlfriend, whom he genuinely seemed to care about, from legitimate danger. Does that really sound like a force of pure chaos incarnate? Cause that's the kind of Joker I want to see.
I feel likewise. I'd like to see more of this joker in a batman movie, where he can be featured. I hope they don't replace him as a knee jerk reaction.
+I'mJustCam now i wont lie. The character itself the personality and motives were all over the place. We didnt get enough time to know the character. But the acting for the character was good. None of it was jareds fault
Let's be real... Heath Ledger had the best written dialogue for a live action Joker. Give those lines to a decent enough actor and they would have killed it just as much. LIKE JARED LETO! ;)
@@CallumDMD Nope. Heath trained for the role, he put blood and sweat into it and made Joker his own. That's why it can't be topped. It's one of a kind.
@@MisterSandmanAU You can say that about every interpretation. I totally agree with Mr Sunday, he wasn't a great Joker in this film, but Heath Ledger wouldn't have been either.
Leto's Joker had roughly the same amount of time as Darth Vader had in Star Wars A New Hope, the character of Darth Vader made a massive impact on audiences within those few mins, whereas Leto's Joker made no impact apart from audiences being confused as to why the character had no, well "character". This version of the Joker gets so much wrong about the fundamentals of what "The Joker" is that I really hope he's ret-conned out of the DCEU and maybe we'll get an actual Joker and not this Gugaloo wannabe Edgey TryHard.
The funniest part is that everyone who says Leto was great either have no reason or simply say "he acted like the joker", and give no expansion upon that statement or any other reasoning. And for the record, he did not act like the Joker. He acted like he was trying for a part in Boyz n the Hood and accidentally showed up at the auditions for the role of the Joker in Suicide Squad.
My thoughts on Leto's portrayal of The Joker is that the directors have no idea what the fuck they are doing. I don't mind the actor for the part, but they fucked it up. First of all he looks like a gangster, which is different and I have no problem with it, but if your trying to please the masses, you've already dug yourself a hole. Second of all he isn't even that crazy, The Joker I know would've beaten the man with a crowbar or stiletto knife in that club scene, aka been a lot more brutal. Third of all, the relationship between Harley and The Joker was absolute horse shit in this movie, its not a romance, its more of a super dysfunctional, ALMOST one sided relationship. Fourth, if he's crazy enough to tattoo every inch of his body and put a damaged tattoo on his forehead, why the hell does he have a clean hairstyle and dress normally. Surely he should look a lot scruffier (same clothes, but maybe a size too big, not properly put on and old and worn, plus his hair should be more
The directors are gonna make joker look diff this is 2016 an they don't have to look like that damn cartoon crap yeah he looks like a gangsta cuz he is one pplz are fucking judging em let em make there damn movies if u don't like how directors make there's movies then don't go watch there damn movies
+Danielle Merriweather that's great advice... seeing as they have gotten pretty low ratings over the movies they've released and a crap ton of hate on actor choices for characters and the actions of the characters in movies, if everyone were to do as you just said, their whole film studio would be broke and they'd have to stop producing DC related films, which would mean they no longer have the opportunity to listen to the fans' advice and improvement ideas, which if they don't listen to because they are arrogant AF, other directors can and learn from the previous mistakes.
Had Leto just kept it simple and understood the character a bit more, he would have given us a better Joker. Pity, because he's a good actor and he transforms into every role he has played. After seeing Joaquin Phoenix's Joker, I think Leto should just give it up. Supposedly there is a Joker and Harley movie coming out too. Blah!! cancel it.
U cannot compare a stand alone movie the history of joker compare to this so many characters of a movie..if phoenix will put into this movie i dont think what the outcome looks like...
His hair isn't even anything like Justin Bieber's you dumbass. Ledger's Joker had his hair slicked back meanwhile Justin Bieber had the Beatles haircut.
this comment speaks truth. idk if its jared's fault or the script he was given but this whole movie was just awful. infact, it was kinda a slap in the face. dude had like 10minutes of screentime too.
His design is based in many designs of the Joker in the comics: 66.media.tumblr.com/02c83902c54114c31f314d6584ddd36c/tumblr_obt7uazb0o1vajmnho1_540.jpg and the "ghetto teeth" are the grills he got after losing his teeth when Batman beated the shit out of him when he kidnapped/kill robin
I want the solo Ben Affleck Batman movie to focus on the dynamic between The Joker & Batman, but with a unique twist that differs it from The Dark Knight...
I liked this jokers style in this movie. and yeah his script wasn't the best, but I think Ben affleck can change this around. I'm just really interested in this joker and those 10 mins just was not enough
I think we had enough of Batman v Joker movies. Would be cool to see a lot of bad guys team up against Batman, like Penguin, Joker..., you know. The classics.
I thought the joker was fine but the movie felt so cheesy, disjointed and like it lacked an actual story line. I don't think the critics were wrong about this movie not delivering.
True. And i think they should have had a storyline where they went on a mission not dealing with supernatural entities. Coz seriously how would they be blamed for anything going wrong in that scenario? everyone in the city saw what was happening. A more covert mission would have been more appropriate where if something did go wrong and it came to light they would be blamed, would make sense.
+azraelblame exactly! I don't feel like there was a story line or anything and the whole "explanation" was thrown in as an afterthought. The plot didn't really flow the only thing that saved this movie for me was the acting (smith Robbie Davis)
So why is Ledger's performance critically acclaimed by movie critics,actors and fans yet no one gives a damn about Leto's?You know nothing about acting ability...leave that to people who do.
Bruce wayne Who knows, you? I'm a theater major in college, I think I know a thing or two. You work with what you get, and that's exactly what he did. Unfortunately, he got a shit script.
the joker with all these accessories didnt make sense in the film because all the back story of the joker and how he became to be like that was deleted. the grills are because batman almost beat the joker to death knocking out all his front teeth, the tattoos have been seen in past comics on the joker, "the dragon" and the smile on his hand was so batman would never forget what he did to him as he couldnt smile the same ever again. if they had of added all of this back story it would of moulded the film and this version of the character in a much more favourable light
+Harper Productions I understand what they were going for, I just don't feel it was pulled off well. Felt too much like they were trying to reinvent the wheel and totally missed the mark. I was glad to hear initially that they had no intention of trying to mimic what Nolan did with Ledger, and I have alot of faith in Leto's acting. I just think the attempt to make The Joker feel more modern made him very un-Jokerish.
Adam Pezley557 AUTOMOOSE it’s literally the way the joker is supposed to act, he is supposed to act like a crazy lunatic. Sure Jared’s joker was more of a lunatic but keep in mind that there was ALL kinds of jokers for example. Heath ledgers has a drunk dad that carved a smile into his face. Jared’s Joker is the version where he falls into the acid. The joker isn’t necessarily ONE version of joker they are all different so they will all act different.
fucker mcfuckface it’s partially his fault considering he only did method acting cus he wanted to have a headline on buzzfeed, Heath did it to act better, that’s the difference
It's still fucking stupid. We see less than 15 minutes of Joker, just like Godzilla. Using a popular fictional character to gain traction for your near shitty film.
Kevin the Cow I see your point, the last action sequence was pretty cool. But I still stand by my point, Godzilla didn't even seem like the main character of the movie, and was used a pawn to attract a bigger audience to theaters.
+Not Spiderman Nicholson in 1989 R-rated Batman (check out his violent acts to putting a smile on his chick) and Heath Ledger's R-rated to PG-13 material in Dark Knight had an entire movie focused on them vs Batman. This movie put Joker/Harley with other villains (2 of which die) vs Enchantress and has lead to sub-Joker thoughts of Jarrod Leto!
The best? We still don't know (maybe). Better? Definitely. Leto's joker was insane, the clown prince (not an anarchist) of crime. I do like Ledger's Joker, but he wasn't the best. If we compare Ledger's and Leto's experience behind the cameras, and their acting skills, we would have an obvious winner: Jared.
+Jokergrin Rebirth I don't know about all that. Jared is a wonderful actor, but the stress to perfect the character wasn't one of the driving forces that literally killed Jared, as was the case with Heath.
GGHHHH I absolutely loved this Joker, BUT HE NEEDED MORE TIME. I was personally very disappointed about how little screen time he got, ESPECIALLY AFTER FINDING OUT HOW MANY SCENES THEY JUST DECIDED TO CUT OUT.
he could ha e had more screen time yes.. however I think that was the PR people hyping him up. this was about Harley and the suicide squad. joker has been around for 75 or so years. he did a great job for what was provided, but this movie was not about him.
No, that's not what Joker is all about. Joker is deep, classy, crazy, and yet has an element of truth to his madness. That's what Joker is. He's an entity, not just some random psycho clown.
I actually found Heath's scenes much scarier. It has something to do with slightly irritatingly long (in a good/bad mesh sort of way) score Hans Zimmer composed for his "Wanna know how I got these scars?" moments. And even then, is "scary and unpredictable" ALL it takes to be the Joker? The Joker, to me, is more nuanced than Suicide Squad would have you believe. Heath Ledger actually showed an understanding of the Joker's philosophy and psyche. He's a clown who wants to prove to Batman that the world can easily be as corrupted as he is. Leto's Joker just shows that the filmmakers understood "The Joker is a clown who kills people and is crazy. See? We understand the character!"
The problem was that all that splurge and promotion was made around him for in the end cut out most of his scenes and worst than that was what they did to the scenes that remained in the film. The scenes in the film were the worst edited scenes that I ever saw, full of special effects to join the different parts of the footage. After that, they throw that disjointed scenes randomly to the film. David Ayer and his team were bastards!
Watching the DCEU is like watching a car crash in slow motion. You already know what the end result is going to be, but there's nothing you can do about it. You can hope that something can be salvaged from the wreckage.
The thing about deadpool is that hes so quirky and wild with all his insults and fourth wall shenanigans that almost anything works for him. So long as you stick with the costume and characters, youre good. However with other comic book characters, any change can have drastic repercussions to how the audience takes it. Creating a comic book character that is universally loved is very improbable.
I feel kinda bad for Leto... He's such an incredible actor. His roles in Requiem for a dream, Dallas buyers club etc. were perfection. I don't know if he would have been as good as Joaquin in the new movie, but they really made him look like a fool in Suicide Squad, what a waste of talent...
Mister Leto fell for it, or was too stew-peed or too lazy to earn his money elsewhere (burgerflip, car-wash). It literally got him destroyed. Career off choices.
Heath Ledger's joker wouldn't have fit in with this universe anyways. He would have came up with this huge complicated plan to foil batman and Affleck would have just killed him....
Leto's joker needs to basically be a mob boss so his ass is protected from getting killed by batman. I mean let's face it, Affleck makes Bale's batman look like peter pan.
After watching the extended cut. Blame is on the worst director imo who cares more for cgi and action than actual story. I think Jared Leto as joker was over the top tattoos, jewelry, weird open jacket showing skin from his chest. If they removed all that and let him act like the real joker from the comic then he would've done well imho.
K renay David Ayer (the director) is not the worst director u must be dumb yea he made a mistake on this movie but have u seen his other movies fury, end of watch, TRAINING DAY those are amazing movies so he's not a bad director
I couldn't help thinking he was a Gucci joker, like if Gucci wanted to make a Halloween costume of the joker. He didn't strike me as a criminal or a person who hated society or had hate in his heart at all.
No, terrible point. A movie is a culmination of a bunch of puzzle pieces being put together, now sometimes that can make a beautiful picture but sometimes one of the puzzle pieces is missing, or is the wrong piece for this puzzle. Jared Leto's Joker was (at least in my opinion) not well played, regardless of how many lines he had or what they were or how long he was in it. If one of the background "artistes" was running around in circles when he was supposed to be running away from an explosion, that would add to the negatives of a movie. Speaking as someone who has worked on movies I know that things need to run as a well oiled machine, every actor has to do their part and Jared Leto took this in the wrong direction I think.
Leto was definitely the worst version of the Joker to date. Nothing he did nade sense or had any real purpose and often he was the most serious character in the room which is... baffling.
Chris Manaloe Except joker a lot of the time is portrayed has having genuine a deep attachment, love, care, affection, for harley. That is nothing new. Let's not be ignorant of that. The animated series relationship isn't the only interpretation of that relationship. It's one of many, and he eventually looks at her as an equal wife in that universe as well.
To be fair though,spiderman in civil war had little screen time to judge his performance and people loved it,I can get the dissapointment,after all the hype he got a couple of scenes and didn't really stand out,hopefully his next appearance or the deleted scenes can leave a better impression
Imagine being jaret ledo - not only you are the worst joker in history, but also right before arguably the best joker in history came up, just to add more contrast and make you look even worse. That gotta hurt bro.
***** I don't really have an interest in guys so how can it be looks? I'm planning on looking into the comics actually, my dad's an avid reader and enjoyed this new Joker. I'll openly admit I wasn't really huge on DC comics beyond the animated series and the movies prior to this. So I do have a little background in it. And I'm not saying he's the best, he wasn't, we all know that. That spot goes to Ledger. I'm just saying he was good for the Joker he was portraying. And I personally found it pretty enjoyable, but lacking from there being so little of him. Hell, I haven't side-by-sided the screentime, but I've heard people saying he gets more screentime in Purple Lambrogini than in the movie...So there's really not enough to get a feel for him.
He was terrible. His role in the movie was useless and he doesnt come off as crazy more than just a gangster. He didnt bring anything to joker, he just copied ledger
incorrect, i was referring to the persona is what he copied. his ROLE was useless in the plot of the movie other than to introduce harleys backstory. He just wasnt crazy enough, he just acted like a thug giggling. i wana see more mark hammil style but thats just my preference
Besides poor directing and editing. Leto's joker failed because Leto has too much ego. His ego works for his music career and other characters he's played. A good Joker has no ego. And Joker definitely doesn't have Leto's ego.
To be honest this role isn't meant for him at all. He might be a hardworking actor but he is just not talented enough. He was just trying too hard it's so cringy.
@@jessejive117 it can almost be stated as a fact since so overwhelming majority is of the same opinion. When you compare Leto's performance to Ledger's and the one of Joaquin Phoenix, you get to realize just how out of depth he is in this role.
Feel bad for Leto, you can see the disappointment. I'm really hoping he comes back, he took this role very seriously and I honestly like him more than I liked Ledger. (Please don't threaten me or tell me to kill myself)
I feel bad for Leto as well, to be honest. Although I thought it was a terrible interpretation and terrible job in general. I do think he's talented enough to make a good Joker though.
+MizzReyRey he wasn't the Joker in this movie. Just seemed like someone dressed up as the Joker. And it's exactly how this dude explains in the video, not a fully realized or driven character. In some scenes he seems fucking ballistic, and then others a caring lover for Harley Quinn. When in reality the character never cares THAT much for Harley Quinn. He uses and abuses her to get what he needs and when he doesn't he just lets her go. I understand comic to movie adaptation and interpretation. But it just seemed so random and inconsistent throughout this movie his attraction and attention towards Harley. Ledger, which I find to be the perfect Joker as he did a different take on Joker, a far more sinister and scary take while also keeping it true to character by referencing The Killing Joke a bit, he has a more consistent way of doing what he did. He made plans, he went through with them, he wanted to play around with the bat and he wanted to show batman that "one bad day" can turn even the best of us into cold-hearted criminals, which is what the Joker in the killing joke attempted to do with Gordon. Jared, I personally did like. I just didn't like that he had no consistent character. He offers Harley to a gangster, then gets overly jealous and shoots him in the head, for what reason? No reason necessary, and he just begins driving like a madman, then leaves her to die, then he was actually looking for her endlessly? I am waiting until he has his real solo film against Batman to actually give out judgment. But what I got from this take on the Joker, is that he is all too human vs being just a force of nature, which is what Heath was. Jared gets a 7/10 for his Joker and how he made that awful script work. But.. I hope he gets more time.
MizzReyRey While Jack Nicholson's joker feels a little antiquated in this day and age, I would still place him miles above this particular interpretation. It just feels like all style (-and terrible style at that) and no substance. But that goes for the entire Suicide Squad movie, to be honest. I think I may have had marginally less trouble with this Joker if it wasn't for the ridiculous tattoos, the lack of eyebrows and the god-awful rims. Although that wouldn't change the fact that he just didn't strike me as a force to be reckoned with.
Don't call leto a joke, he is an amazing actor , you'll never know how much hard work he had to do for playing joker... And he is an updated version of joker.. Suicide squad is a different movie, leto didn't have much scenes for that movie but he is a good joker in his own way.....just appreciate his hard word...
Leto was an amazing joker, ledger was also amazing but different, I just wish people would appreciate his different approach to the iconic character, and how the hell can people say he overacts it's the goddamn Joker he's mad
and I would love a Harley and Joker (love)story with the dark twist because I think the chemistry between Margot Robbie and Jared Leto was really good and made the film great in my opinion, hopefully it's announced soon
+Rogelio Rocha I understand and respect that seeing as it was the original relationship of the two characters, but in suicide squad they change the relationship and personally I think it works and would love to see a film about their love. I know it's down to personal opinion and I also believe it's down to how well they wanted the film to do. A lot of the audience look up to the characters seeing as they are both 'beautiful people' as to say and it most likely gave the film a lot of its popularity, not everyone will ever be happy though so you just need to respect the choices the film made.
Heath ledger was the best joker to me but u have to give Jared leto credit, he really did work hard for this movie and also props cause his role really did creep the shit out of me.
+Ariel Wainzinger of course I've seen jack nicholson as joker but I feel like he wasn't creative with the role, he was the typical joker from the comics and didn't really stand out to me but that is just my opinion.
The main problem with the "Squad" Joker is that he kept trying to rescue Harley.
One of the main points of Joker/Harley's disfunctional relationship is that Harley will do *anything* for Joker...and Joker will do *nothing* for her, unless it happens to be something he's doing (usually, Bat related) and she's "on the way."
This was I pg so they decided to make it more loving
That is then Officially the dumbest decision every made for the Movie DCU...and there's been a hell of a lot of competition for that spot!
Also, if they had excluded the Joker rescuing Harley bits, what would have even changed?
true, hated how he cared about her, new joker is a pussy
Joker is a passionate person. Joker being passionate for Harley does not ruin his character. Its a change from the comics, but those don't have to be bad and the comics themselves change over time in each retelling. This isn't the Heath Ledger version of the Joker, its a Joker more like the Jack Nicholson Joker who is capable of having a gang, not killing all of them without reason because Chaos... The Joker/Harley relationship from the comics and TV series always left a bad taste in my mouth as too much. In a lot of ways Heath Ledgers Joker is great in a one shot movie, but who in their right mind would choose to work with/for that Joker? Leto is building a Joker that is unpredictable, but capable of building long term alliances.
Jared Letos joker has tattoos that basically say “I’m insane” and he wears metal teeth, and drives a super car. Goes to clubs, and wears jewelry. None of those traits relate to the actual joker. #longliveheath
MPB Mason agree. Jared Letos take on the Joker was laughable.. and not in a good way lol
Long live Joaquin.
@@roxyfoxyyy7 that's not Jared letos take on the joker. It was the bad writers take on the joker. I believe if it wasn't for the bad writers he'd be a good joker. I don't care how famous the actor may be. Everything goes the way the producers and directors wants it to go. Actors have almost no say so in the matter.
is that jared's fault?
I mean besides the tattoos and metal teeth, joker used to own a nightclub in the comics so...
Leto's joker was so fucking cringy lmao
Not just the acting, but the look altogether. Joker having a fucking silver grill was enough to make me regret spending money on the ticket to go see Suicide Squad.
it's not a grill
i watched that shit online and i still regret it
NoobsUpNorth I actually somehow didn't notice it, and obviously I'm fucking exaggerating.
Raymond So What is it then? Whatever term you'd like to use for it, it still looks ridiculous.
almondlowe You first :))
I used to think Jared Leto’s Joker was a comedy, now I realize it’s a tragedy.
Edmund Loh u stole this
lmao
People are afraid of something new
Edmund Loh HAHAHHAHA
David: perfection.
It seems like Leto's role in the film was... 𝓓𝓪𝓶𝓪𝓰𝓮𝓭.
What?
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I loved the subtlety with him in the film, like this, and when he laughed in a circle of knives. Very subtle
7 boxes with question marks in them?
It says "Damaged" in the font that is on jokers forehead
I just feel so sorry for Jared Leto, it's like you did a HUGE homework assignment the you put so much time and effort and then for some reason the teacher says she didn't need it anymore
Yeah, no wonder he's pissed.
+Potter TheAvenger ikr
We get it Spidey, you're younger now.
They shouldn't have marketed him as the flagboy if he wasn't going to be the flagboy.
Urg that happened to me before! I had a geography project due, we had like 6weeks to do, I spent ages on it, finally the day had came to show our projects and it turned out we was getting a new geography teacher, all that hard work and no one ever got to show if. A few days after that I saw our class projects in the bin. (This happened like a year ago) I was so pissed.
Insert obligatory "I don't care about what you say I liked the Joker in Suicide Squad" comment from a teenage girl here.
It is just an opinion calm the f down
+Miss Sugar Cabal beat you to the punch, I'm guessing?
i CABAL i 16 year old girl here, who went to go see it in the cinema with her teenage girl group of friends... I LOVED nothing, absolutely nothing about the movie. Grew up with the intriguing psycho Joker from cartoon dc tv shows, this was 7/10 as disappointing as DCEU's Lex Luther
Leto joker looks like a soundcloud rapper lol
chainsawhanshaw I’m dead af lmao
@@ehlirodriguez1369 😂😂😂😂
I would cop. Joker rapping about sipping lean and telling jokes over rap bass lines.sign me up
@@paisa1990ac lol that's gold
Ehli Rodriguez still not his fault and has nothing to do with his performance lol
Batman walks on screen
Joker goes "HUNKA HUNKA!"
Batman snaps his neck and goes home
Credits
Jared Leto might not appear in future movies because of what happened in suicide squad all though it isn't official so we could still get him
+Tasnim Akhtar Jared Leto signed a multi-movie contract. He is coming back.
Robert King dude this is beautiful😂 I laughed so hard
Then it's shown in post credit scene Leto is the joker from earth (fill in blank)
J- Rich although he did sign the contract jared said he felt tricked into playing the joker, read some interviews and news on it. Some people however twisted what he said and claim that jared swore at WB for how suicide squad turned out. But tht was false he swore at WB because of a part that said jared cant fo mountain climbing which he than swore at. Plus jared doesnt event watch his own movies
The Joker had more screen time in this video, than in Suicide Squad.
Bad day?
+Michael Whidden you don't get the reference
+Maui Dimagiba No lol, it's true
thats depressing because its probably true
true
I find the Leto Jocker too over-designed.
All that Tattoos on his body, his “metal“ theeth and NO eyebrows are too much for me.
Cannabis Hornliu its a psycho its his life all those tattoos!!!
Lamest joker ever.
I think he looked way too clean. Like his makeup and everything. I’m used to joker with that huge smile and messy look
Cass Ott that’s fair. But ledger is really the only messy looking joker. Leto just looks so much cleaner than others because he’s shirtless half the time and it makes his pale skin too bright and noticeable and his hair was a much brighter green too
@@zZstormgamezXx No, the Joker of Joaquin Phoenix is also messy
This is the only Joker that was actually a clown...
@@renegadered8007 you didn't get it...
@@renegadered8007 A "clown".. you know.. in a derrogatory sense
@@Quoteunquot3 While Ledger's and Phoenix's Joker were a representation of Nihilism and the embracement of the psychological "shadow", Leto's Joker looked just like some stupid gangster that lost his mind-- he labeled himself, wearing jewelry and tattoos-- the complete opposite of Joker's Nihilism.
LMFAOOOOO
@@Pan8oy What does nihilism even have to do with this? You're saying clowns are the opposite of nihilism? I don't get why people think it's enough to insert the word "nihilism" in a text to make it seem "deep".
Just wanted to point out the club scene. The tattooed guy makes a comment about Harley, we see Joker make a face (along with a weird editing visual cue), and then Joker offers Harley to the man. It was clear to me, that the joker, for whatever reason, was irked by the comment, and put the man in a no win situation. He takes Harley, it shows he is willing to take another man's woman, he refuses her (as he does) he is insulting the Jones's generosity. A no win situation like that was very Joker esque. At least to me.
Couldn't have said it any better
ohh let me try
tattoo man
(looks at harley)
"your a lucky man, you got a bad b%*@h"
(weird scene thing)
(joker points at harley)
"all she is, the fire in my woods, the itch in my crotch, I give you the one, the only infamous HARLEY QUINN"
(Her dancing)
(joker whistles)
harley
"puddin"
joker
"come to daddy, now,you are my gift to this...handsome Hunka, Hunka, you work for him now"
(she sits on tattoo guys lap comments something, joker looks jealous)
(tattoo man looks at him)
"hey i don't want no beef"
joker
"ahh you want no beef? you want no beef?"
harley
"what you don't like me fine I'll take my business somewhere else then"
tattoo man
"nah joker that's your girl"
joker
"haha that's right"
tattoo
"yo j, J!"
(BANG)
and scene
thank you
+RogueJoker 47 that's what happened in the book. I repeat not comic.........but book.
and what does this terrifying "force of nature" incarnation of the joker do?? he shoots him... in the face... wow so unpredictable, very joker esque
to me it seemed to cliche. i knew exactly what was going to happen, totally unessecary
Heath Ledger's Joker was very dark, cunning, and anarchic.
Jack Nicholson's Joker was whimsical, psychotic, and energetic.
Jared Ledo's Joker was gangster, unstable, and cynical.
Exactly. Jared Leto's interptretation of the Joker is an unstable, megomaniac who will do whatever to takes to get his way. He IS a force a nature: The nature of impulse, and impatience. ALL of his scenes from the movie exemplify this: He tries to free Harley Quinn 3 times, and succeeds on the third try. Each time he barely thinks things through. He impulsively kills a gangbanger after impulsively offering Harley Quinn to him. When the Joker crashes, he impulsively swims away and leaves Harley behind, only to regret this later. This version of Joker is very well defined and if we get an extended edition, hopefully this will become more clear to the general public.
You're wrong. The beautiful thing about the Joker is that there are multiple versions/interpretations of him. So while you may prefer one over the other, that doesn't make one truly better then the other.
+Jose Luis the kid in Gotham does it best though. Not gunna lie. Most accurate representation of the more recent comic book Joker's.
leto's joker wasn't anything and had no depth
All the Jokers are great in their own way. All these videos compairing them needs to stop. All actor did the Joker in their own fashion great. Leto's is my new fave.
Best?: not yet but has the potential to be
Worst?: there hasn't been a bad joker yet and Leto is no where near the "worst"
Obviously he is the "worst" iteration.
+Paul Smith obviously thats just your opinion. imo he was good Not amazing but i really enjoyed the ace chemicals scene
+Paul Smith Caesar Romeo.
+Paul Smith how is he the worst? Please explain lol.
+phillipssteven45 because he looks like a juggalo, his "crazy" came off as forced, and he was totally predictable.
This version of the Joker seemed forced and wooden. My god, they actually had "Damaged" tattooed on his forehead. At least we didn't find out the Joker's mom's name was Martha.
You must have missed that part.
The damaged tattoo referenced his knocked out teeth in the comics oracle got back at him and broke his teeth it actually made him all depressed and angry at the thought of his smile being damaged but in this version it was Batman
TBuckley 20 but the tats are still fucking stupid
This joker was also inspired from the comics. joker murders robin and batman smash his teeth in.
I just feel so bad for Jared Leto, i know his Joker would be good. But the studio NEEDS to fuck shit up
The studios literally made a joke out of this new Joker.
Says the joker himself.....
But I liked Leto
I agree, they marketed wrong, made it look like he was the big next coming. I thought his portrayal had alot of promise but was wasted on this overhyped mess...really disappointed almost feel robbed of what could have been a really good performance...
Agreed
Don't give a shit on what you think, I like the actor. I think he did really good playing his role as The Joker.
So why'd you watch tah vid m8?
No, i didn't. I just made this comment.
Max Garcia
May I ask why you clicked on the video at all then?
Just to make this comment
+Max Garcia Ok
I loved Jared Leto's Joker and I didn't think Suicide Squad was a bad movie at all. I'm not sure why it got so many terrible reviews. It was way better than Thor 2 or Batman vs. Superman, or even Avengers 2. I saw Suicide Squad as an introduction to those characters for people who don't read comic books. Nicholson was horrible as the Joker, Ledger was awesome but lacked the sense of whimsy the Joker often has, while I thought Leto got the mix right. With the Joker, you can never really ask, 'to what end?' because the 'end' makes sense only in his insane mind.
I saw this movie as a jumping off point for the Joker in future films with Batman or one featuring a more in-depth story about the Joker and Harley Quinn's relationship- even a second Suicide Squad. I think a lot of the problem was in the advertising. The Joker is not one of the main characters in Suicide Squad, so I did not expect to see much of him in it, while all of the advertising focused very heavily on the Joker, so by the time you see the film almost all of his scenes had already been shown in the trailers. Had they made it clear that the Joker was to have a smaller role viewers would have known it going in and might not have been as disappointed.
translation: this movie with bad reviews was slightly better than other movies with worse reviews
Psymon Psyduck Your opinion, not mine, but still perfectly valid if you feel that way. :)
I agree. I think the advertising is what ruined people on this joker. It got their hopes up
+FlyingNarwhalAttack exactly
I agree, the movie was a great introduction to the DC comic charcters.
"There is not one particular version of the joker that is universally disliked by fans" ... well there is now
james m what about the Tiktok girls that have a crush?
Might be more disliked than George Clooney's Batman. And that's saying something.
This version of joker was inspired by comics Too. So ledger played his version and leto played his. No hate
Leto is hands down the worst joker
I'm tired of this "Leto didn't get enough screen time to judge" cop out. Seeing more of this version wouldn't change opinions, it would only reinforce them. Ledger sold everybody within his first two minutes of screen time. Hell, if all we had ever seen of his Joker was the pencil scene, people wouldn't be saying "I dunno, he didn't get enough screen time to judge." They'd be saying "Joker was fucking awesome! Why didn't he get more screen time??"
Heath Ledger I think is the worst Joker ever because he works like a villain but not as a Joker. The Joker has to be 50% mad and 50% funny and charismatic and Nolan made him 100% crazy and Leto made him about 80% crazy but he still felt like the Joker and Ledger didn't.
Leto did NOT feel like the Joker. Joker is supposed to be a man. Leto gives off the vibe of a lesbian playing dress up.
+Scott K the helicopter scene where he was shooting from the golden AK was pure Joker awesomeness he sold me on that scene that was joker right there
As good as Ledgers preformance is he is not the Joker..he is just some lunatic that puts make-up,not funny, not charismatic at all. Honestly can you imagine Ledgers Joker having a relationship with Harley? I cant. That is to say Im not defending Letos Joker as i did not watch the movie but imo he looks more like the Joker than Ledger.
+Hawke35 so what you are getting at is ledger isn't attractive so he can't be the jokere
joker had 4 minutes of screen time nothing to do with the main plot yet still being compared to heath who had basically the entire movie surrounding him and obviously had much much more screentime so we can't just simply say leto was the worst when there was barley anything to judge off of and he wasn't the main focus
Finally somebody that's making sense
that is such a dumb point. you can definitely judge this performance by what we were given.
+Psymon Psyduck really???
He's being compared because the Joker is an icon. Leto could've had _one_ scene he still would be compared
Well if we just compare their introduction scenes. Ledger was way more charismatic and funny. It just took the pencil trick and he had us. While Leto seemed just weird, he wasn't really scary to me, I didn't like how sexual he was, wasn't really funny or clever, he was just.."Meh". Of course deleted scenes could change my mind but until then I'm sticking to my guns.
That laugh. That stupid design. That stupid personality.
How could they humiliate Leto so much?
@@mikel5163 Well to be fair, he didn't have much to work with. He played the role of over exaggerated, obnoxious, wannabe edgelord joker, as what the movie intreperted it to be, quite well. Still, i doubt that he would've been close Ledger and Phoenix even given a proper script
yeah they gave him the john boyega treatment
@@mikel5163 lol
@@heamees4822 edgelord joker lol
Jared Leto himself chose this design for the joker
I never seen the movie. Butt i hate the fact that he has a "damaged" tatto on his forhead. Like some middle schooled emo teenage girl that draws fake tattos on their arms
To be fair, I think the joke is that it IS written on his forehead, so he's BRAIN damaged.
Hahaa yes
@Train Magic considering he's the joker either way pretty sure we would love to beat his head with a baseball bat regardless of any version.
Dakota Kinert You said Butt, but i know you wanted to say but🤣🤣🤣
Forehead*
He was doing his best Jim Carey impression.
I see that someone has watched honest trailers
No sir. But I will go look it up now. Thanks
+Raylin Brown
Jim Carey would've been a better Joker.
there was one line delivery that felt like a Jim Carey impression but the performance was all over the place.
hunka hunka and grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
It was confusing. It's like The Joker knew of the pop-culture interpretation of The Joker, and tried to copy that, without understanding that it's just a crude xerox that barely captures any detail. "Oh, he's pointlessly insane, and loves laughter and smiles and whatnot."
He's unrealistic and flat, as a character. Heath Ledger made him a believable character.
Viktor Rebake I know right I can't see how people love this joker especially the guys cause I know the women just want to see Leto shirtless. I had to watch the dark knight after watching Leto to get that bad taste in my mouth
ok I just wanna say you dont need to be a teenager or stupid to like letos joker
Goerge Sefer meh that's the audience they were clearly aiming for with both Harley and Joker especially their relationship, which was way off from the comics and as its own thing was unrealistic
we love this joker cuz its something new its diff then the others these actors dosent have to play joker the same way as the others do want ull haters go deep in a room wit nothing on no sound just think of it as a crazy house with no windows hese actors play joker the way they see it not the way ull see it sorry but ull dint have to go deep into that carter like they did
Danielle Merriweather just because "it's something new" doesn't make it a good interpretation. Joker has changed a lot over the years with Mark hamill, Jack Nicholson, Troy baker, and Heath ledger they were all different interpretations but they all kept the same spirit of the joker. Letos interpretation is too modernized and he doesn't feel as natural in his acting. Heath ledger spent days and hours writing in his notebook learning how to be crazy he internalized that behavior. Leto just felt like someone working at a haunted house just kinda acting random because that's his job
Leto's Joker was unnecessary and cringe worthy.
The whole movie was a let down.
Encapsulative of the DCEU as a whole...
I enjoyed the movie as a whole quite a lot, but yeah I agree with Joker being pointless in this movie.
his laugh reminded me of the penguin
Wonder woman and Batman movies have to be Blockbusters to keep this awful franchise alive!cant believe how much warner bros dropped overall in fan service and the producers throw everything in every movie but just to say "Theres your fav character and what they do!".
yeah marvel really let us down with this one
He was trying WAY TOO HARD
@Karen Van Zant or perhaps he wasn't instructed the right way by the film crew. not anything has to be blamed on the actor...
@Karen Van Zant Yeah I could never see Joaquin's Joker seduce Harley Quinn. lmao
he was trying so hard to act crazy
His problem was he acted like he did amazing before the movie was released
He saw what Heath ledger did and thought it would be easy then Phoenix came along and kicked the sh*t out of his version of joker and now he is sulking when he tried to cancel Joker
There's my little rant done if you bothered to read it then thanks
Jesse Eisenberg played a better Joker.
True story!
Nah, Eisenberg was more Riddler.
Ding ding ding ding!
THIS COMMENT wins
This comment and replies here just confirms exactly what the video as saying. Leto did a great job and joker was good but they didn't use joker the best way they could so it makes it seems like joker was not played well but it has to do with the writers or producers
People chill, he talks about how the actor playing the Joker is great, but the Joker playing the script was horrible. So chill
I think that was correct... I have no clue... :/
+Mr. McDuckHole lol I thought Jared Leto was bad as the joker he didn't have that appealing sense like Ledger did.
+Aiden Pierce Leto had more relation to this Joker. stop calling the Nolan version because it isn't even canon and the Joker in that adaption had ZERO human relationships. last time I checked, that was the entire point of acting. not taking away from Ledger(GREAT for a movie, TERRIBLE for a comic.)
SHUT THE FUCK UP
True
leto's joker scares people with his scary guns, tatoos,weird laughs,weird teeth .Heath's joke scare people with words and a pencil. nuff said
Ain't nothing scary about guns, tats and laughs
idiots these are two completely different worlds heath's joker was in a realistic world as the director wanted, Leto's was in a world where supernatural exists no correlation between these two jokers you cant compare them
Correction.
Jared Leto doesn't scare anyone.
WORD! give this man a medal!! Spread the word!
Heath has a line that destroys your argument, "Do you want to know why I use a knife? Guns are too quick. You can't savor all of the little emotions."
poor leto, I bet he was expecting a joker like Phoenix's joker
@J&N Gaming and More! Leto clearly doesn't understand Joker's character
@@Nour-mx3uu who tf are u to say that
Ryzen-PUBG I’m Batman
OutFreak28 nah, he was probably expecting something similar to Ledger
@@duckfilms5812 no
i dont get why joker wastes all of his time laughing when he could just say LOL
Nice.
*cringe*
HA........HA........HA.........HA
Could you imagine?
Batman: Where are they?!
Joker: Hey Batman!
Batman: What?!!
Joker: LOL!
LOL
Leto is basically playing Ace Ventura as the Joker
Magneto Rex don't you DARE insult Ace Ventura like that.
Exept Ace Ventura was funny, Leto as the Joker is not
Spot on
At least I would've laughed at Jim Carrey as the Joker
Okay that's way to accurate
Not fair to compare Ledger's Joker to Leto's for 3 reasons.
1. Heath's Joker was the big bad of TDK. He was the driving force behind the plot.
2. Ledger's Joker had almost 3x more screen time.
3. Ledger's Joker, like Bale's Batman, is a more comic book inspired character, than adapted. Look at the DCEU, characters are very much adapted from the comics. Some have the odd change but mostly they're the same.
I liked what I saw from Leto, except a few things. Like his snorting when he'd look at that dude. Or his blank stare at times. Joker is supposed to be very emotive. Ultimately, it's really not fair to say you hated a character that had fuck all to do with the plot and fuck all screen time. If he's in the Batfleck solo movie, and he's the main villain, then we can decide if he's good or bad.
Well said
Truth
Thank you !
True ledgers joker was a an anarchist Leto's was closer to the comics he was a pyscho mob boss the clown prince of crime
well, how about just take 1 scene of Ledger joker vs Letto joker. 1 Scene. or 10 minutes of Ledger joker.
= Ledger joker still the best.
And now he's super sad because Joker is an incredible movie and a well done version and he's completely lost his job as the Joker going forward.
@I don’t like Lgbt people joker was actually pretty good but your right about suicide squad and endgame
@@MIAMIPOLICEFILES Endgame was great, though.
@@JianCB2 I didnt really like it that much
@I don’t like Lgbt people "guys, guys, i hate every popular thing and won't give a reason, aren't i cool? U girls better be quick because i am so hot and cool that i might suck my own dick"
@@blank003 "guys guys I'm bashing people over their opinions aren't I so cool"
Leto did fine. People complain too much..
I'm looking forward to more of his joker in other movies..
I agree with you 100%
Agreed. Haters gonna hate. nothing you can do about it. this vid summed it up nicely tho.
Yall loved it. A lot of people didn't. Stop calling everybody with different opinions "haters"
he was lame.
+avonbarksdale91 stfu
From what I've seen , most females only like this joker cause he's attractive ..
Yeaaaa really dumbass reason to like him
He's an amazing actor it's just a plus that he's attractive. You wouldn't understand good acting even if It punched u in the god damn mouth
+Ava Barbeau I love his singing too
And most guys like a character because they look badass. Not much of a difference really
dawg heth ledger was one of the most attractive guys in acting so you have no point
Personally, Leto played what he was given very well, but they need to flesh him out more
yeah he didn't really have his "moment" ....he was barely in it
Definitely. He was not given enough screen time to properly portray his version of the character, especially after Ledger's phenomenal performance. To be hyped up in all the trailers, posters and other marketing just to have less than 10 minutes of screen time, doesn't seem fair.
I completely agree
this guy gets it.
He tried way to hard. He should've just been his own interpretation of the Joker. IMO the joker from dead end was better😂 (like if u get that reference)
the tattoos and the silver grill ..silver caps whatever...plus the persona ...all bad
He is supposed to be the pimp/ gangster version on the joker. Heath Ledger was just a terrorist/madman.
Even if they were making him the GANGSTER version of the Joker, this isn’t even an actual gangster. If they wanted to make him a gangster while still keeping him like the Joker, they should have given him a dark purple suit, and make him act like Tommy from Goodfellas. David Ayer made him what people THINK gangsters are like, but real gangsters are intimidating, well dressed men who can get in your head, and Jared Leto would’ve been GREAT at that role, whereas this Joker just seems like somebody who’s trying to be in an Eminem music video
The Don jacks joker is more of a goodfellas type joker
Steve Govea what persona? 😂
@Max Williams this joker sat in another mans lap,thats not gangster
DC should stop trying to compete with Marvel with creating a cinematic universe, and instead just concentrate on making one good film and then go on from there.
"DC is just trying to copy Marvel" Jesus Christ shut up fanboy-SMH...
+Captain Halo well they kinda are...
+seahawk124 I agree just have standalone films (I'm a massive DC fan).
As someone who loves both dc and marvel. The dc movies do not feel as if they are trying to compete at all, the term is cannibalization. someone comes up with an innovative formula, like Moba games for example.
Then a bunch of other developers make their own take, some worse, some better.
DC isn't trying to perfectly mimic marvel, they are doing their own thing.
They also aren't rushing the cinematic universe contrary to popular belief, because the pacing of multiple previous instances of DC have gone at this pace in the past |: Just never on the big screen.
+Captain Halo They are trying to compete with Marvel regarding cinematic universes though. They are not copying Marvel but it's stupid to say that the massive amounts of world building in the last two films are not related to DC trying to catch up.
The Emo Joker lol
the emoker?
Jane Ross Lmao, This joker is a stereotypical mafia leader. The joker is supposed to be a creepy boi, who doesn’t care about money, who doesn’t care about women, he just cares about causing chaos.
@@lukasfotto328 absolutely, this is the most rubbish Joker. Doesn't resemble the character, and doesn't resemble anything interesting on its own merits either, even if it was meant to be an original character.
The film definitely let the role down and you can see he's trying to make something of what he was given, but it's clear nobody knew what they were doing, and there's still no saving this interpretation whatever cut of the film you have access to. Then again that goes for the whole film in general. Such bad versions of so many of those characters...
Actually everyone was calling Heath Ledger's Joker emo at the time because he would always laugh when he got hurt.
Joker but he went to Hot topic lol
imo the real joker would never even come back to rescue harley. he doesn't care about her
@Sebastian R. heh...😂😂😂
Steven Velasco you are absolutely correct! The Joker doesn’t care about anybody but himself and Batman.
@Sebastian R. that's literally the problem.
@@KingDaveth
He could've pretend that he loved Harley.
@@silversmoke4159 that's makes no sense what do ever why would he risk his own life he that was true he has no reason to than he could be sent someone else
It's a shame because he could have been perfect as the joker had they given him a permanent smile, a suit, a good script, and actual direction
Maybe an actor that cared more about what's on screen rather than off screen while you're at it?
@@jessejive117 It's a continuation of SwirlyJoe's remark that changed everything the character that Leto played was, I just added that if he's changing so many things might as well also change Leto for an actor that cared more about his portrayal of the character he's supposed to be playing rather than doing all his bullshit method acting pranks.
In other words, Leto is as much to blame and should've been changed.
@@jessejive117 regardless of whatever you want to add to justify his "method acting" bullshit, he is clearly not a very beloved Joker and if that means he ain't returning, I'm happy with that.
I'm sorry but Leto's Joker has a laugh that sounds like a creaky door. He was never a proper fit for Joker although he is a fantastic actor all the same.
TRUE!
I personally really liked this Joker.
same I thought he was great
Yeah he's awesome!!!!
Me to he is a good joker
I agree! we are hopefully getting more of him in Batman solo movie or a Harley Quinn solo when they come out would be nice!
+Tom Cabler it thank the Joker is a sure thing in the batman solo movie
Too much overacting, edginess, etc
this
still nothing was as shitty as Harlequinn who unlike joker took most of the screen time
+Retepzednem Horatio wow hahaha i cant beieve u hhated harley guinn wow amzing i think u need to seek some help
Liam Galinato all she did was flash her ass and spit one liners not to mention her and boomerang dint even feel they belong in the movie like what exactly made them so elite to be part of the most bad people squad? , insanity shouldnt = super power , what should the next big super hero/antihero be the crazy cat lady everyone talks about flinging cats as combat weapons? lol
+ that s not what all she did if thats all u think she did your fucking blind.
I think that if the Joker had been the villain, the movie would've been way better. I didn't mind Letos Joker, but I agree with you, they just didn't know what to do with him, and he doesn't stand out like other versions have
Ant-Man would have been a better villain than the Enchantress
Anything is better than her.
+Victor Richardson hell, Mojo Jojo would've been a better villain. Lol
kleptic
My money is riding on Krillin.
He would be infinitely better.
krillin would at least be an actual physical threat to them
Dude think about that statement. I respect your opinion but the entire Suicide Squad against the Joker? Joker wouldn't last 10 seconds against them. Okay Okay so how would he beat Enchantress by herself. What about Diablo? Deadshot?...etc. Joker is an interesting character but lets not over rate him. Interesting and not powerful, so no he shouldn't be the major villain unless they're trying to kill him off.
I'm definitely not tired of hearing how great Ledger was 😂
The real Heath Ledger was Afro-American, y'know, bro??? 😉
Agreed, Leto did a great job, but the character was poorly written.
He didn't seem very evil, or very crazy. He was just some random mobster, who happened to look a bit like a clown, and his only motivation throughout the movie was to save his girlfriend, whom he genuinely seemed to care about, from legitimate danger.
Does that really sound like a force of pure chaos incarnate? Cause that's the kind of Joker I want to see.
Agree, this 'Joker' was just a love-sick gangster who somehow had a pale skin and green hair (and lots of tattoos).
well there were many cut scenes showing a more abusive and sick relationship like the joker is in the comics
The Joker from the comics (gold and silver age) was just a gangster that looked like a clown.
I feel likewise. I'd like to see more of this joker in a batman movie, where he can be featured. I hope they don't replace him as a knee jerk reaction.
They cut a bunch of Letos scenes out
I really liked this version of the Joker and I hope we see more of him in the future!
ikr
He is amazing, I hope he plays him for ever
why? please tell us.
i liked him too mate
hes fucking AWSOME
He made a huge impression in just a little bit of screentime. Jared did good.
I agree
Agrees, I personally thought he was the most captivating to see on screen.
+I'mJustCam now i wont lie. The character itself the personality and motives were all over the place. We didnt get enough time to know the character.
But the acting for the character was good. None of it was jareds fault
I agree, he was great!
Did he tho?
Let’s be real.
Health Ledger is the best live action Joker
Let's be real... Heath Ledger had the best written dialogue for a live action Joker. Give those lines to a decent enough actor and they would have killed it just as much. LIKE JARED LETO! ;)
@@CallumDMD Nope. Heath trained for the role, he put blood and sweat into it and made Joker his own. That's why it can't be topped. It's one of a kind.
@@MisterSandmanAU You can say that about every interpretation. I totally agree with Mr Sunday, he wasn't a great Joker in this film, but Heath Ledger wouldn't have been either.
cant say hes the worst becuz we didnt see enough of him in ss. personally, he did fine so far. i do think hes trying too hard tho.
ya
read the title
Leto isn't a bad actor it's the opposite. Requiem for a dream and million things.
Leto's Joker had roughly the same amount of time as Darth Vader had in Star Wars A New Hope, the character of Darth Vader made a massive impact on audiences within those few mins, whereas Leto's Joker made no impact apart from audiences being confused as to why the character had no, well "character".
This version of the Joker gets so much wrong about the fundamentals of what "The Joker" is that I really hope he's ret-conned out of the DCEU and maybe we'll get an actual Joker and not this Gugaloo wannabe Edgey TryHard.
Leto's Joker was FLAWLESS in my opinion. I thought he played him amazingly amazing
why tough?, the script was bad, and let seems to not work well with rushed jobs and comercial films
You got trash taste famalam
+MizzReyRey well said mate agree with u all the way
The funniest part is that everyone who says Leto was great either have no reason or simply say "he acted like the joker", and give no expansion upon that statement or any other reasoning. And for the record, he did not act like the Joker. He acted like he was trying for a part in Boyz n the Hood and accidentally showed up at the auditions for the role of the Joker in Suicide Squad.
me too. But....he may have been to sexy as the joker.. I thought he was hot not Jared hot but his joker was sexy
My thoughts on Leto's portrayal of The Joker is that the directors have no idea what the fuck they are doing. I don't mind the actor for the part, but they fucked it up. First of all he looks like a gangster, which is different and I have no problem with it, but if your trying to please the masses, you've already dug yourself a hole. Second of all he isn't even that crazy, The Joker I know would've beaten the man with a crowbar or stiletto knife in that club scene, aka been a lot more brutal. Third of all, the relationship between Harley and The Joker was absolute horse shit in this movie, its not a romance, its more of a super dysfunctional, ALMOST one sided relationship. Fourth, if he's crazy enough to tattoo every inch of his body and put a damaged tattoo on his forehead, why the hell does he have a clean hairstyle and dress normally. Surely he should look a lot scruffier (same clothes, but maybe a size too big, not properly put on and old and worn, plus his hair should be more
Reminiscent of Ledgers Joker), but IDK, thats just my take on the Leto's Joker.
+Trojan Gaming oh and his laugh was utter bullshit, that was unforgivable.
The directors are gonna make joker look diff this is 2016 an they don't have to look like that damn cartoon crap yeah he looks like a gangsta cuz he is one pplz are fucking judging em let em make there damn movies if u don't like how directors make there's movies then don't go watch there damn movies
+Danielle Merriweather that's great advice... seeing as they have gotten pretty low ratings over the movies they've released and a crap ton of hate on actor choices for characters and the actions of the characters in movies, if everyone were to do as you just said, their whole film studio would be broke and they'd have to stop producing DC related films, which would mean they no longer have the opportunity to listen to the fans' advice and improvement ideas, which if they don't listen to because they are arrogant AF, other directors can and learn from the previous mistakes.
jack nicholsons joker also looked like a gangster
Had Leto just kept it simple and understood the character a bit more, he would have given us a better Joker. Pity, because he's a good actor and he transforms into every role he has played. After seeing Joaquin Phoenix's Joker, I think Leto should just give it up. Supposedly there is a Joker and Harley movie coming out too. Blah!! cancel it.
U cannot compare a stand alone movie the history of joker compare to this so many characters of a movie..if phoenix will put into this movie i dont think what the outcome looks like...
gokunaro uzumaki fix your grammar, nobody understands what you are trying to say
You don't follow Heath Ledger's Joker with Justin Bieber with green hair and ghetto teeth. Shittiest. Joker. Ever.
His design was pretty badass, not a normal joker, but badass.
His hair isn't even anything like Justin Bieber's you dumbass. Ledger's Joker had his hair slicked back meanwhile Justin Bieber had the Beatles haircut.
this comment speaks truth. idk if its jared's fault or the script he was given but this whole movie was just awful. infact, it was kinda a slap in the face. dude had like 10minutes of screentime too.
His design is based in many designs of the Joker in the comics: 66.media.tumblr.com/02c83902c54114c31f314d6584ddd36c/tumblr_obt7uazb0o1vajmnho1_540.jpg
and the "ghetto teeth" are the grills he got after losing his teeth when Batman beated the shit out of him when he kidnapped/kill robin
+Dru Blanks Truth? More like stupidity.
I want the solo Ben Affleck Batman movie to focus on the dynamic between The Joker & Batman, but with a unique twist that differs it from The Dark Knight...
death of the family + under the red hood in one movie would be amazing
+Verax maybe over a trilogy.. But in one film it wouldn't be as emotionally fleshed out
+Verax death of the family has already happened in the timeline so only under the red hood is left to do
I liked this jokers style in this movie. and yeah his script wasn't the best, but I think Ben affleck can change this around. I'm just really interested in this joker and those 10 mins just was not enough
I think we had enough of Batman v Joker movies. Would be cool to see a lot of bad guys team up against Batman, like Penguin, Joker..., you know. The classics.
I thought the joker was fine but the movie felt so cheesy, disjointed and like it lacked an actual story line. I don't think the critics were wrong about this movie not delivering.
True. And i think they should have had a storyline where they went on a mission not dealing with supernatural entities. Coz seriously how would they be blamed for anything going wrong in that scenario? everyone in the city saw what was happening. A more covert mission would have been more appropriate where if something did go wrong and it came to light they would be blamed, would make sense.
yeah and the witch thats too much
+azraelblame exactly! I don't feel like there was a story line or anything and the whole "explanation" was thrown in as an afterthought. The plot didn't really flow the only thing that saved this movie for me was the acting (smith Robbie Davis)
+cummings power it was pretty stupid and cara's acting didn't really help
Me personally: love Jared Leto, hate his particular Joker.
It's 69 now
@rxp56 Yeah, how dare they effectively use a colon in a written sentence.
You don't need to say "Me personally", it goes without saying- unless its a reference to Red Letter Media's Nerd Crew, of course. Very cool.
Heath Ledger was and will always be the joker...Jared Leto just did not have the acting ability to give an iconic performance like Heath did.
not have the acting ability? Do you know who you are talking about. You probably know shit about acting.
Go back to Gotham Batbrain!
+Diaries.Of.a.Mad_BITCH! _ He proved he was trash with this role LOL
graffProdigy The script was shit but that is not his fault. He is still a great method actor.
So why is Ledger's performance critically acclaimed by movie critics,actors and fans yet no one gives a damn about Leto's?You know nothing about acting ability...leave that to people who do.
Bruce wayne Who knows, you? I'm a theater major in college, I think I know a thing or two. You work with what you get, and that's exactly what he did. Unfortunately, he got a shit script.
Get rid of the grills, the tattoos, the gold chains, basically all of David Ayers input.... yea, he might have made a decent Joker
Leto is one of my top favorite actors. That character is shit.
So true
+MittzKrieg Lol it's not a grill, it's silver teeth because Batman knocked his teeth out somewhere along the line
the joker with all these accessories didnt make sense in the film because all the back story of the joker and how he became to be like that was deleted. the grills are because batman almost beat the joker to death knocking out all his front teeth, the tattoos have been seen in past comics on the joker, "the dragon" and the smile on his hand was so batman would never forget what he did to him as he couldnt smile the same ever again. if they had of added all of this back story it would of moulded the film and this version of the character in a much more favourable light
+Harper Productions I understand what they were going for, I just don't feel it was pulled off well. Felt too much like they were trying to reinvent the wheel and totally missed the mark. I was glad to hear initially that they had no intention of trying to mimic what Nolan did with Ledger, and I have alot of faith in Leto's acting. I just think the attempt to make The Joker feel more modern made him very un-Jokerish.
You are right, i like the actor, but this version of the joker really sucked
@Adam Pezley557 AUTOMOOSE okok we get it if Heath didn't set the bar so high Jared didn't do bad
Adam Pezley557 AUTOMOOSE it’s literally the way the joker is supposed to act, he is supposed to act like a crazy lunatic. Sure Jared’s joker was more of a lunatic but keep in mind that there was ALL kinds of jokers for example. Heath ledgers has a drunk dad that carved a smile into his face. Jared’s Joker is the version where he falls into the acid. The joker isn’t necessarily ONE version of joker they are all different so they will all act different.
@@reeses_sss Jared Letos Joker fucking sucked
@@reeses_sss and if you did remember that then you have to get a fucking life
The actor looks like piss of shit real vampire
The worst joker smack bang in the middle of the two best.
He had rough competition coming after heath. Then to add insult to injury he gets bested by Phoenix. It's a definite tragedy
fucker mcfuckface it’s partially his fault considering he only did method acting cus he wanted to have a headline on buzzfeed, Heath did it to act better, that’s the difference
honestly, I don't think we got to see enough of his Joker to say it was the worst.
It's still fucking stupid. We see less than 15 minutes of Joker, just like Godzilla. Using a popular fictional character to gain traction for your near shitty film.
Ledger and Nicholson impressed us all in less than a minute. Leto has no excuse.
Kevin the Cow I see your point, the last action sequence was pretty cool. But I still stand by my point, Godzilla didn't even seem like the main character of the movie, and was used a pawn to attract a bigger audience to theaters.
+Not Spiderman Nicholson in 1989 R-rated Batman (check out his violent acts to putting a smile on his chick) and Heath Ledger's R-rated to PG-13 material in Dark Knight had an entire movie focused on them vs Batman. This movie put Joker/Harley with other villains (2 of which die) vs Enchantress and has lead to sub-Joker thoughts of Jarrod Leto!
Calling him the worst is comparing him to every Joker we've seen so far. And honestly yeah he kind of is. His character really just didn't work :-/
Jared Leto could have been the best if David Ayer wasn't so obsessed with the LA gang scene
+MarvelWeiner lol true the tats fitted this joker he was a modern mobster the clown prince of crime
The best? We still don't know (maybe). Better? Definitely. Leto's joker was insane, the clown prince (not an anarchist) of crime. I do like Ledger's Joker, but he wasn't the best. If we compare Ledger's and Leto's experience behind the cameras, and their acting skills, we would have an obvious winner: Jared.
+Jokergrin Rebirth I don't know about all that. Jared is a wonderful actor, but the stress to perfect the character wasn't one of the driving forces that literally killed Jared, as was the case with Heath.
it's where Ayer grew up so it's just in his nature and experience
except Ledger didn't die because he Jokered too hard. He died because the energy drinks he was sipping on were fucking with his medication.
I thought he was a great Joker, in fact I think he is probably my favorite Joker!
But that is just my opinion.
(not trying to start a argument here)
its okay is your opinion ;)
Why?????
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+Odd Toddlers ok :v
I thought this joker was pretty good. I hope we can see more tis one in future movies
Heath Ledger: THE JOKER
Jared Letto: THE JOKE
GGHHHH I absolutely loved this Joker, BUT HE NEEDED MORE TIME. I was personally very disappointed about how little screen time he got, ESPECIALLY AFTER FINDING OUT HOW MANY SCENES THEY JUST DECIDED TO CUT OUT.
I really wish DC gave him more character, he needs it.
sameee!!!!!!!!
I agree! I wanted to see more Joker
I wanna see him against batman
he could ha e had more screen time yes.. however I think that was the PR people hyping him up. this was about Harley and the suicide squad. joker has been around for 75 or so years. he did a great job for what was provided, but this movie was not about him.
leto's joker was much scarier and crazier than heath's. which is supposed to be what the joker is all about. Scary and unpredictable.
No, that's not what Joker is all about. Joker is deep, classy, crazy, and yet has an element of truth to his madness. That's what Joker is. He's an entity, not just some random psycho clown.
megamovieman101 i guess your right
Two different movies and styles of Joker, They're not supposed to be similar so stop comparing them.
raddahunglow52 i agree.
I actually found Heath's scenes much scarier. It has something to do with slightly irritatingly long (in a good/bad mesh sort of way) score Hans Zimmer composed for his "Wanna know how I got these scars?" moments. And even then, is "scary and unpredictable" ALL it takes to be the Joker? The Joker, to me, is more nuanced than Suicide Squad would have you believe. Heath Ledger actually showed an understanding of the Joker's philosophy and psyche. He's a clown who wants to prove to Batman that the world can easily be as corrupted as he is. Leto's Joker just shows that the filmmakers understood "The Joker is a clown who kills people and is crazy. See? We understand the character!"
Jared letto (sorry if I spelt his name wrong) wasn't a bad joker, the people who made the movie made The Joker bad.
I completely agree
***** no
SlimeGaming true that
The problem was that all that splurge and promotion was made around him for in the end cut out most of his scenes and worst than that was what they did to the scenes that remained in the film. The scenes in the film were the worst edited scenes that I ever saw, full of special effects to join the different parts of the footage. After that, they throw that disjointed scenes randomly to the film. David Ayer and his team were bastards!
But Mark got the best voice and the best laugh.
2016 joker suicide squad: Meh
Joker 2019: awesome
2016 joker suicide squad now: oh Hell Nooo
Thank you can't wait to see you in sponge bob movie
@Keanu Reeves I take it the 2016 Joker wasn't _Breathtaking_ but _Damaged_
@Rudy Castillo Anti-bully mascot sounds like a rather positive thing to my mind.
I like suicide joker
2019 suck idiot kid
Watching the DCEU is like watching a car crash in slow motion. You already know what the end result is going to be, but there's nothing you can do about it. You can hope that something can be salvaged from the wreckage.
drksideofthewal brilliant analogy
COOLMCDEN 219 I remember how hyped I was when I first saw Batman vs Superman trailer, won’t fall for it again.
@drksideofthewal Yep
Lmao😂😂😂😂
@xavier jaramillo aquaman was great.
Anything that is comic book related will always have people upset over how the movie went. Other than dead pool. Everyone loves his shit
The thing about deadpool is that hes so quirky and wild with all his insults and fourth wall shenanigans that almost anything works for him. So long as you stick with the costume and characters, youre good. However with other comic book characters, any change can have drastic repercussions to how the audience takes it. Creating a comic book character that is universally loved is very improbable.
deadpool sucks.
Perfectly worded sir! It wont be too easy to ever mess up DeadPool!
I have never seen or heard anyone upset over Heath ledger's joker
This entire movie is garbage.
Lance Mausser I love you
I feel kinda bad for Leto... He's such an incredible actor. His roles in Requiem for a dream, Dallas buyers club etc. were perfection. I don't know if he would have been as good as Joaquin in the new movie, but they really made him look like a fool in Suicide Squad, what a waste of talent...
Mister Leto fell for it, or was too stew-peed or too lazy to earn his money elsewhere (burgerflip, car-wash). It literally got him destroyed. Career off choices.
Heath Ledger's joker wouldn't have fit in with this universe anyways. He would have came up with this huge complicated plan to foil batman and Affleck would have just killed him....
Leto's joker needs to basically be a mob boss so his ass is protected from getting killed by batman. I mean let's face it, Affleck makes Bale's batman look like peter pan.
Affleck's Batman is also a terrible Batman. Literally just the Punisher in a batsuit.
+The Monopoly Guy batman doesn't kill idiot
+badarbiter comparing batman to a marvel character....fucking stupid
+John Dunn apparently in this generation he does derr dunn
I think that the best joker is a toss up between heath ledgers and Mark Hamalls' from the Arkham series.
Do not want a way
he does the best joker voice anything i read with the joker is in his voice, (MH not ledger).
As much as I love Heath's Joker (best live action Joker), Mark Hamill's performance in the cartoon and the games holds a special place in my heart.
I agree
After watching the extended cut.
Blame is on the worst director imo who cares more for cgi and action than actual story.
I think Jared Leto as joker was over the top tattoos, jewelry, weird open jacket showing skin from his chest.
If they removed all that and let him act like the real joker from the comic then he would've done well imho.
K renay Fact!
K renay David Ayer (the director) is not the worst director u must be dumb yea he made a mistake on this movie but have u seen his other movies fury, end of watch, TRAINING DAY those are amazing movies so he's not a bad director
Thebananaman44 He shyamalaned
+Thebananaman44 Ayer did not direct Training Day!
Antoine Fuqua is the director of Training Day.
K renay Heath Ledger absolutely demolished Leto tho.
I couldn't help thinking he was a Gucci joker, like if Gucci wanted to make a Halloween costume of the joker. He didn't strike me as a criminal or a person who hated society or had hate in his heart at all.
Bingo
I don't think it's fair to judge him considering how small his role was in the movie
Very good point.
+C.J. Fedderson yeah
Yeah I feel the same
Definitely something we need to see more of to make a proper judgement. (i'm just re wording your comment to try win a Loot Crate)
No, terrible point. A movie is a culmination of a bunch of puzzle pieces being put together, now sometimes that can make a beautiful picture but sometimes one of the puzzle pieces is missing, or is the wrong piece for this puzzle. Jared Leto's Joker was (at least in my opinion) not well played, regardless of how many lines he had or what they were or how long he was in it. If one of the background "artistes" was running around in circles when he was supposed to be running away from an explosion, that would add to the negatives of a movie. Speaking as someone who has worked on movies I know that things need to run as a well oiled machine, every actor has to do their part and Jared Leto took this in the wrong direction I think.
Leto was definitely the worst version of the Joker to date. Nothing he did nade sense or had any real purpose and often he was the most serious character in the room which is... baffling.
All the directors fault though. Jared could probably be a good joker if he gets the chance.
That's your opinion
Nothing he did made sense? All he did was create harley and rescue harley? Made sense to me lol
+Chris “The main cannon” Manaloe Joker never really risked his life for Harley.
Chris Manaloe Except joker a lot of the time is portrayed has having genuine a deep attachment, love, care, affection, for harley. That is nothing new. Let's not be ignorant of that. The animated series relationship isn't the only interpretation of that relationship. It's one of many, and he eventually looks at her as an equal wife in that universe as well.
The worst joker?? wtf he barely had any scenes as this pointed out, need way more to judge it
Did you even watch the video?
To be fair though,spiderman in civil war had little screen time to judge his performance and people loved it,I can get the dissapointment,after all the hype he got a couple of scenes and didn't really stand out,hopefully his next appearance or the deleted scenes can leave a better impression
Ledger in his first 10 mins was still great. Some characters dont need a whole movie to sell you
+One true Zimbo he had 20 minutes probably almost 30. Jared has 10 or less
+franco mayer I know right anything to defend Jared's Performance
Imagine being jaret ledo - not only you are the worst joker in history, but also right before arguably the best joker in history came up, just to add more contrast and make you look even worse. That gotta hurt bro.
White Obama right smack bang between the two best ones. Lmao. He’s a douche though so oh well.
I like the new Joker (Not just for his looks alright so chill.) Just to much was removed and he needed a better script.
***** I don't really have an interest in guys so how can it be looks?
I'm planning on looking into the comics actually, my dad's an avid reader and enjoyed this new Joker. I'll openly admit I wasn't really huge on DC comics beyond the animated series and the movies prior to this. So I do have a little background in it.
And I'm not saying he's the best, he wasn't, we all know that. That spot goes to Ledger. I'm just saying he was good for the Joker he was portraying. And I personally found it pretty enjoyable, but lacking from there being so little of him. Hell, I haven't side-by-sided the screentime, but I've heard people saying he gets more screentime in Purple Lambrogini than in the movie...So there's really not enough to get a feel for him.
He was terrible. His role in the movie was useless and he doesnt come off as crazy more than just a gangster. He didnt bring anything to joker, he just copied ledger
than by your logic ledger was usless?
incorrect, i was referring to the persona is what he copied. his ROLE was useless in the plot of the movie other than to introduce harleys backstory. He just wasnt crazy enough, he just acted like a thug giggling. i wana see more mark hammil style but thats just my preference
Mike G well comics have had three seperate joker types
eh im not a fan of that theory but its all good. cheers!
I agree he was like 4 year olds mad kid to me
Worst joker ???? More like worst batman
+Liam Galinato ??? Has nothing to do with batman lol you tampon boy
+Brock Lesnar oh ya sorry about that boy
Ikr worst batman ever but best joker ever in history
More like worst ending for summer slam, thanks Brock.
+Belinda Castro wait what? Just no. Just no. Even if you forget Heath Ledger, I feel like 1989, or even Mark Hamill are better Jokers.
I wish we get a joker like the joker in Arkham
I agree
Leto's joker looks like Johnny Depp from Charlie in the chocolate factory
I think they need to do a "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" and draw Mark Hamil's Joker from the animated series over him.
Besides poor directing and editing.
Leto's joker failed because Leto has too much ego.
His ego works for his music career and other characters he's played.
A good Joker has no ego. And Joker definitely doesn't have Leto's ego.
Mountain Goat didn't TAS joker have ego ?
Random Internet Surfer does the normal joker send used condoms to people? No, that's just Leto's attention seeking interpretation
Uhh, I'm pretty sure Joker has a huge ego.
I agree, plus Jared Leto's Joker was a complete joke!
Mountain Goat Amen to that.
To be honest this role isn't meant for him at all.
He might be a hardworking actor but he is just not talented enough.
He was just trying too hard it's so cringy.
@@jessejive117 it can almost be stated as a fact since so overwhelming majority is of the same opinion. When you compare Leto's performance to Ledger's and the one of Joaquin Phoenix, you get to realize just how out of depth he is in this role.
Jared Leto is a good actor who was wasted to put butts in seats and to earn money but he just felt shoe horned in.
Agreed
well said.
Thanks, Kovic.
+Arthur Curry I heard you can talk to fish.
Thanks Adam
The editing in this film was done by a 10 year old
Well thats what you get when you hire the same crew that edited the fun trailer to edit the movie.
Nah not a 10 year old I'd say an emo 17 year old Hot Topic employee
Warnerbros cut a lot of scenes
+Jake Gofner studio dumbass they changed the rating
YES it was shit!
Feel bad for Leto, you can see the disappointment. I'm really hoping he comes back, he took this role very seriously and I honestly like him more than I liked Ledger. (Please don't threaten me or tell me to kill myself)
I feel bad for Leto as well, to be honest. Although I thought it was a terrible interpretation and terrible job in general. I do think he's talented enough to make a good Joker though.
+MizzReyRey he wasn't the Joker in this movie. Just seemed like someone dressed up as the Joker.
And it's exactly how this dude explains in the video, not a fully realized or driven character.
In some scenes he seems fucking ballistic, and then others a caring lover for Harley Quinn.
When in reality the character never cares THAT much for Harley Quinn. He uses and abuses her to get what he needs and when he doesn't he just lets her go.
I understand comic to movie adaptation and interpretation. But it just seemed so random and inconsistent throughout this movie his attraction and attention towards Harley.
Ledger, which I find to be the perfect Joker as he did a different take on Joker, a far more sinister and scary take while also keeping it true to character by referencing The Killing Joke a bit, he has a more consistent way of doing what he did.
He made plans, he went through with them, he wanted to play around with the bat and he wanted to show batman that "one bad day" can turn even the best of us into cold-hearted criminals, which is what the Joker in the killing joke attempted to do with Gordon.
Jared, I personally did like. I just didn't like that he had no consistent character. He offers Harley to a gangster, then gets overly jealous and shoots him in the head, for what reason? No reason necessary, and he just begins driving like a madman, then leaves her to die, then he was actually looking for her endlessly?
I am waiting until he has his real solo film against Batman to actually give out judgment. But what I got from this take on the Joker, is that he is all too human vs being just a force of nature, which is what Heath was.
Jared gets a 7/10 for his Joker and how he made that awful script work. But.. I hope he gets more time.
+Makoto Kazuki also sorry for the long ass essay lmfao
MizzReyRey While Jack Nicholson's joker feels a little antiquated in this day and age, I would still place him miles above this particular interpretation. It just feels like all style (-and terrible style at that) and no substance. But that goes for the entire Suicide Squad movie, to be honest. I think I may have had marginally less trouble with this Joker if it wasn't for the ridiculous tattoos, the lack of eyebrows and the god-awful rims. Although that wouldn't change the fact that he just didn't strike me as a force to be reckoned with.
Man, nothing wrong with having an opinion. Tough one to hold though, I already feel like Leto had his chance and it's already judged and done...
Ramero-A Joker
Nicholson-Joker
Ledger- The Joker
Leto-A Joke
Hamil - The Joker
@@Blood0cean we're talkin' bout live action pal
@@moayad80 we are talking about jokers perioid pal
Don't call leto a joke, he is an amazing actor , you'll never know how much hard work he had to do for playing joker... And he is an updated version of joker.. Suicide squad is a different movie, leto didn't have much scenes for that movie but he is a good joker in his own way.....just appreciate his hard word...
@@user-te8rc1gd3m No, he sucked balls.
Was never fit for the role.
The only ppl who liked him were tween girls getting wet. ugh silly virgins
I fell like most of the people hating on his joker is the people that can't get over that it's not Heath ledger
Meh all he added to the character was keeping his mouth open and staring really long. The rest was just look with a ledger voice.
That's part of it.
No, he was just really corny.
No I think the people who like this Joker don't understand the joker at all and just like the image of Joker.
Jared Leto can't get over the fact that he's not Heath Ledger. Dude's doing a straight up impression, and not a good one.
Leto was an amazing joker, ledger was also amazing but different, I just wish people would appreciate his different approach to the iconic character, and how the hell can people say he overacts it's the goddamn Joker he's mad
and I would love a Harley and Joker (love)story with the dark twist because I think the chemistry between Margot Robbie and Jared Leto was really good and made the film great in my opinion, hopefully it's announced soon
+Rogelio Rocha I understand and respect that seeing as it was the original relationship of the two characters, but in suicide squad they change the relationship and personally I think it works and would love to see a film about their love. I know it's down to personal opinion and I also believe it's down to how well they wanted the film to do. A lot of the audience look up to the characters seeing as they are both 'beautiful people' as to say and it most likely gave the film a lot of its popularity, not everyone will ever be happy though so you just need to respect the choices the film made.
Amazing for 7 minutes?......
+TubularKid Thats not relevant, if your a good actor you can be amazing in no time at all. But I do wish he was in the film for a longer period
+Matthew Allsopp he over acted most of the scenes he was in I genuinely do not like his performance
Heath ledger was the best joker to me but u have to give Jared leto credit, he really did work hard for this movie and also props cause his role really did creep the shit out of me.
+Ariel Wainzinger of course I've seen jack nicholson as joker but I feel like he wasn't creative with the role, he was the typical joker from the comics and didn't really stand out to me but that is just my opinion.
+Ariel Wainzinger i think ledger did a really good joker to me the best
+cummings power na mark hamill was better
no he wasnt
Breaking News: Jared Leto is living in a cave somewhere.
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