Mike’s Biggest Fail Ever: The 190e Mercedes
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 มี.ค. 2023
- In this video, I'll show you struggles of a Mercedes 190e that won't start. The W201 won't start issue is complicated to solve. You have to check 2 types of fuel pressure, the EHA valve, the air flap, the fuel injectors, the fuel pump, the fuel pressure regulator and the fuel accumulator.
If you're familiar with this car, you know how it tried to burn down the @autoauctionrebuilds shop. The engine went up in flames! - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
It's those darn injectors, they are blocked ☹️ you got this Mike! 🤘🏽
Wow! That car is fighting you every step of the way! Holy cow! Hang in there Mike. You'll get it going.
poor Mikey can't get a break. He thought Janis would be the death of him...
Well Mike the car in my opinion will run, you are close to success, and since you're a Mercedes guy the knowledge you have gained will be useful on future Mercedes adventures.
Mike, you rebuilt the injectors in another of your project cars. I suggest you do it on this 190 after your verify the fuel pressure is correct. Just those pld rotted o-rings that seal the injectors into the head can cause low compression.
Been looking forward to seeing it fixed. Youre so close, but man that gas looked real bad. Blow air through the injector tubes.
You'll get this one running, no doubt. That bosch injection is complicated, but once set up, it's dead reliable. Keep up the great content!
We are rooting for you. Keep going! Please fit in the seal for the Ford truck that’ll be nice
If you had no sparc it wouldn't have started on ether.
To answer your questions , Mike , yes . The thumbnail sure had me rolling 🤣🤣🤣
They say 'don't flog a dead horse'. I laughed all through the video, it was great. Thanks.
Maybe it's possible the fuel injectors are plugged. Love the content keep up the good work.
I’ve said it before Mike, rip that over complicated Mercedes fuel system off and just run a carburettor!
Great content as always Mike.
Cheers Pat 🇦🇺
So much content!! 😂😂😂 you gotta love that Mercedes
wow that's a big leak . almost got her running Mike .
She's got the juice to get loose LOL
Hey Mikey, The interior of that Mercedes is really beautiful! I forgot how many miles it has on it? For the sake of drama for your channel, I would suggest not giving us the end result of this post in the thumbnail! Make us wait till the end to find out! Great to see you finally found the problem though. Can’t wait to see you fix it in here run
This one is really fighting back , but you will get it sorted , it runs on starting fluid so hopefully only glogged injectors & replace the fuel hose , I think your nearly there 😁👍🇦🇺
It is progressing slowly to test Ur nerves. I know that U have the patience to outlast the little girl and bring her back to life. Forge ahead Mikea!
I saw the gas spraying out and said BLOODY HELL!
Nothing like watching this guy work on a car with his eyes closed
Great work Mike, it will start some day😎💪🔥
I've been wondering if you'd checked the injectors. Have to admit, I did laugh at the puddle from the broken fuel line. When a car is that old, I'd replace all flexible fuel lines as a matter of course.
Keep going Mike, won't be long before it's running sweetly.
25:39 that’s actually a good thing but I’ll definitely think it would start up after fixing the hose. Because it’s not getting any pressure to the fuel pump to prime the injectors to start.
Hey Mike from Uk. I always liked the 190e and be great to save this one. Great content-looking forward to the next edition! 👍👍👍
I've got my platform shoes on and my Disco Duck record ready to play .
I miss my old 300E, best car I ever had. I love watching you save old Mercedes. ❤
Stick with it Mike you will get there in the end buddy. Keep smiling buddy 👍🙂👍
She's gonna live! Can hardly wait!
I think it's nice that you can get parts for it no matter how long it takes. I certain it will run when you get the parts since it ran on starter fluid. Once again we get to see everyone's video and movie favourite, Cliff Hanger. Great video. Thank you.
Mike I have been a subscriber from the beginning. I would never say anything disrespectful or derogatory BUT BROTHER this start is right there check what’s going on ,order the parts it has spark it has air it has fuel ( crap delivery) you know man !!! Your subs have been requesting this car for weeks if not months including myself it may run rough but it should run lol . Mike i honestly love your channel but the heck with the walk arounds get this one running . The haters are going to attack me but I don’t care … get it started .. nothing but support and love BK. From CT
Mike I'm sure someone has mentioned it by now but if not, many local hydraulic hose shops will make up a new hose for much less then Karl Benz ancestors will charge you.
Also:
How to put out a gas fire: Water will be ineffective but you can smother the flames with a blanket. You can also use a powder or foam extinguisher. How to put out a chemical fire: ever use water as this can spread the chemicals further. Extinguish these fires with foam or dry powder.
You will be so proud once it runs. You will have learned so much. Now you will be able to bring back so many Mercedeses. You are vastly deeper into technology than you were.
It's actually astounding.
Well you finally found the source of the problem Mike, I'm willing to bet you'll eventually get it to run. 😎🤞👌👍
You'll get it going have faith . Don't be discouraged
I own a 190D (we just changed the transmission this last weekend) along with a buddy and this is one of the reasons he talks about not getting a 190E, but you are a true war hero if you get it started. Keep these videos coming, they are very entertaining and informative.
Mercy! If it ain’t one thing it’s another. Don’t burn the house down.
And I didn’t give that one to you so you can’t blame me 😂 😊
Were is randy he is apart of this he gita help finish the job
My son had a 1983 380sl, he gave up on that car after about 3 years of chasing problems like you are. Now he's got a 1973 Buick Riviera, said he's also chasing problems with some evil cycle.
Hello Mike don't give up it's got to run and it's good to watch
I have a 1984 W201. 2.3 engine. It would not run when I got it. Replaced the fuel distributor fuel pump, and the filter, and it started. I've driven it for over 200K, now, and it starts every time. I have learned so much about the Bosch mechanical fuel injection system over the last 15 years with this car. I paid $200 for it. I'm glad I bought it.
Mike the "Favorite Drink" after the Disco, Janice and F150 should be Bourbon! If it isn't you are tougher than you think! WONDERFUL Video for APRIL FOOLS DAY! Good luck Mike.
Of course it will start!! It's a Mercedes, and you're a Mercedes guy!!😎👍
"Failure is success in progress." ― Albert Einstein
Mike! You have it in you! Being a vintage Mercedes owner myself I know how frustrating it can be. Sometimes it’s the dumbest fix that IS the fix. I have a good feeling about that hose. These Bosh CIS fuel injection systems are so reliant on exact fuel pressure. Don’t give up this close to the finish line!
Mike your are very close to starting the old girl..
Great content! You knowledge of the units are very impressive..keep it coming.
These cars equipped with a Bosch CIS heavily rely on vacuum lines, and a single vacuum leak can easily make your car a non-runner.
By the way, what you replaced together with the fuel pump is not the fuel pressure regulator. It's the fuel pressure accumulator. Its main purpose is to maintain residual pressure in the system. The easiest way to spot a faulty pressure accumulator is a car failing to start when the engine is at operating temperature.
There are many reasons why the car won't start, but here's a few:
- Obviously those injectors were not in good condition. Those are mechanical injectors that operate above 3.2 bar if I recall correctly. Ultrasonic cleaning or additives have very little or no effect at all on these.
- Sometimes, the stupidest thing, such as bad wiring can cause the car to not run or stall. The ECU receives signal from different sensors: coolant temperature sensor, throttle position sensor, air-flow sensor, O2 sensor... If a single wire bends and interrupts continuity, the car will likely stall. If you want to run the car on fully mechanical mode, you can unplug the EHA (black electromagnetic actuator beneath the fuel distributor), which is what receives all the information from the ECU and adjusts the differential pressure inside the fuel distributor. Another way to do this is by removing the OVP (gray relay with a red cap and a 10Amp fuse that is located next to the fuel pump relay). This will not provide voltage to the ECU.
- I have noticed that you're missing a vacuum hose that you need to address. See the valve cover, there's a hose that goes from there to the air filter and ICV (Idle Control Valve). If you are missing that hose, vacuum leaks will be huge, and car will never be able to start, or it run rough or stall after a second.
One step closer to the finish line 🎉🎉
Hey Mike, this is all a dream the car starts😂.
With the pump on, lift the deflector plate on the distributor to Help get rid of air faster
😂😂😂😂 Oh Mike, what a disaster at the end. The fountain of gasoline
Great to see the Disco Inferno again! Was super excited! 😄
This car is being a pain in the rear likes to fights you every step of the way. Great work and thanks for sharing this with us take care
Keep sharing your valuable tips, learning a lot from you. Thanks.
Great progress diagnosing the issue(s)!
GREAT VIDEO MIKE. Got a special song for you:Smile from Nat King Cole,it will help you through this nightmare
Good job Mike. You making progress 😎😎👍👍
Well at least you know where that leak was coming from. Maybe it will run for you now.
I would of done that outside in case it burst into flames and and it doesn't burns your house down nice to see you have a jumper pak like Randy now your walk arounds will better for you man I feel sorry for you Mike been there I know how it feels
Getting closer ! Excelsior!
I think she will start with the new hose and injectors. Maybe you can get more of the old fuel out when you change the hose.
DONT GIVE UP YOUR ALMOST THERE ! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK !
If you get it going u should take it to Randy's shop and show him it's alive
You got it 👍
Mike, keep at it. This thing is going to run soon!
Hold on Mike...I'm still laughing😂Okay i,m ready now
Great video Mike Thanks
Great effort. What else is there to do anyway on a Saturday afternoon except for self torture.
Great video like always😊
Thanks for the great content.
I give you credit for your perseverance. I’d call and pay a junkyard to tow the 190 & F150 away.
I’d stick with Janice & the MG.
Greatest cliff hanger since 😮😮😮😮😅😅😅
You will get there Mike, better luck next time, new hose and injectors will do the trick.
Brilliantly annoying 😂😂 keep at it buddy! Love this car😊
Monkey Wrench "I'll be back" Mike. Oh the fun you have, I took a sledge hammer to a 78 Buick once many years ago. It didn't help, but it made me happy.
Mike hang in there dude
😶If ever there was a car that should NOT be started unless it was in the farthest corner of the backyard when attempts are made to start it, it is this one.
Before you get new injectors, replace the fuel hose then retest. Can't really gauge the health of the injectors with inadequate fuel pressure.
Oh man, that Benz is nice! Cool content!
I would adjust the air flow sensor plate in or out and see if the engine tries to fire. If it tries, youre going in the right direction. 3mm allen key. Good luck Mike.
I love the circus music Mike👍👍
Secondly, please get a proper fire extinguisher. Water is not suitable for a petroleum based fire. The fire rides on top of the water and your home insurance may be invalidated by this activity. Love your show.
Mike, if you change everything, you'll have a new Merc! And then maybe it will start.
Mike with the gas line leaking that bad ,you probley did not have enough presure to make the injecters work
Mike you have the patience of a saint! I hope the views are at least making it worth your while to keep polishing that turd! Never liked that Luft Fuel Injection!
Don't Give up Mike
Nice diagnosis
Your airflow metering plate hardly moves down when cranking. No plate movement = no fuel out off injectors into engine
The plate should move downward by about 1/16” from engine vacuum during cranking, adjust your 3mm Allen screw by jumpering fuel pump relay 7+8 then depress plate by 1/16” by hand, adjust Allen screw until you hear the injectors squealing
Peter
She deserves to be given another chance
You've got two hopes with that car - Bob Hope, and no hope!
That line looked like it has good fuel pressure. Once you prime it after cranking it over. If you push the flap down you sprayed starter fluid into with a injector out you should see it spray fuel.
I used to prime my Bosch system by turning the key on or cranking then going out and pressing the flap down a few times till it went soft.
Mine used to backfire out the flap from bad fuel.
I also used the flap push trick when it would stall and not start and it worked every time.
All it does is simulates wide open throttle when it goes down to push the needle in the center the fuel distributor you took off and distribute more fuel.
That trick will also prime the lines and get the air out by spraying the fuel through instead of the idle or off position it sits in.
The air in the lines was probably why it was bouncing a little bit.
If I were you, I would do the injector check again, and then push down that flap you sprayed starter fluid into and see what the spray is like after you get a key on and prime cycle.
It just might take a few presses to get the air out of the spider and start getting the fuel stream once the intake vaccum sucks the flap into the run position.
It should also make a heeee noise and be stiff when it's got the air out of it and the fuel is loaded.
It's a high pressure system, but it all operates on the flap being closed and off or open @ different lengths.
I would just use my index finger to push it down with the car off a few times till it stopped making the heeee noise and then start it.
It should also help get the crud out of it, and then you would need to get the fuel clear, which the blown line probably just did and clean out the injectors upside down with a cleaner can of stuff attached to a straw.
Flap pushing till soft with the key off after a crank and no start or run and stall will also help warm up the engine and possibly get a better vaccum to the intake by burning off the valve deposits from carbon and old gas.
I'm using moly valve cleaner and berrymans chem tool for fuel additives on older cars.
Also, the ford's flashing airbag light might be for the connection between the column and the wheel.
The OBD1 check engine system requires a plug in tool that plugs in under the hood I believe on the driver side.
It takes some time to work on something for a while, take a break and think it out then come back to it.
Also rember that baking soda puts out fires if you don't have a extinguisher.
When I saw that fuel on the floor I was really glad it did not cause any issues for you.
:)
If it weren’t for bad luck you would have none at all lol. Same as my luck. Love the videos. Can’t wait to see the next one. Good luck. I know you will get it going. Great content
Unbathed elderly man burns garage down laboring under delusion that $200 salvage Mercedes will actually run. Is committed by neighbors for 72-hour observation.
Spot on 😂😂😂😂
At least she wants to come back to life
Oh boy I guess it will be another 6 months with the 190E. 😂😂😂
A for effort, Mike.
That old gas looks like soy sauce.
Mike you have the worse luck I have that I ever seen, bless your heart
hey, mike i would recommand you to clean the fuel filter in the tank and replace the other fuel filter you have, i also knowt that the k-jetronic have and fuel filter if you trie to clean it it would help you to get it startet.
Maybe the injectors are clogged?
is there a cliff nearby that you could send that car over? LOL Thank you for the great videos!!!!!