🔴 What You Need To Know About Affordable Silencer Options
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Guys, have you ever thought about the possibility, that this is a fake letter sent by the scamming seller who just stole your money and sent the fake letter in order to make you stop poking around and quietly let him enjoy your money? I live in Europe and I'm not familiar with the US government officials communication, but I am pretty sure this is a document counterfeit and a selling scam. I'd suggest every recipient of such letter to get a lawyer and sue the crap out of the scammer...
You know you might just be onto something
Of course all the only reason I know New York and Illinois is doing it is because when they track your packages that’s with the tracking number stops
If it was from the scammer wouldn't it have Chinese stamps in the top right hand corner of the envelope?
CRS Firearms I live in New York ,and I could say there pretty strict on a “restricted” items LOLL!!!!
Why not order one and if a letter comes contact the atf? They'd have a record. Or maybe just double check phone numbers on the document to see if they're legit.
There is no good reason suppressor shouldn't be legal. We need to renew the push to get these removed from the nfa.
But muh James Bond movies.
@@joshuasandine3791 That's wrong... they don't touch the bullet. The exception being the oil filter which has to be shot through first before it will work properly.
There are noise laws, your lawn mower has to have a muffler cars have to have mufflers anything real loud has to have a muffler I want a muffler for my gun.
@@joshuasandine3791 This ain't CSI Miami. Bullets don't hit the suppressor and they have absolutely zero impact on ballistic forensics
Make shift silencers. Look it up
Govt requires you to put a muffler on your car or they will fine you. But if you want to put a muffler on the loudest thing you own, they make you fill out paperwork, get fingerprints and pictures, pay $200 for a permission stamp and wait a year. Why do we tolerate this bull-butter?
We dont know where to fight it.. been trying to fight this in commitees but it always fails
Only because they want to hear you come one time. If you're going to come and go, the government doesn't care. LOL
@@mobius-1503 this is my theory. Also this should work with machineguns. You have to be SQUEAKING CLEAN and coordinate with at least one other person in each Judicial district first. You're going to need a LOT of money because there's no contingency money if they win. I also am not an attorney.
You and others in different judicial districts get arrested for making a silencer or be denied by government to make a machinegun, find a firearm lawyer that HAS argued in the supreme court, pay a LOT of money, put many miles on your car driving to and from court, and have ample vacation time from work.
Again, just a theory.
And shite that's only if your state will allow you to go the nfa route in the first place. Delaware ... Nope no nfa at all.
the word is " intent"......don't act dumb.....because it does make you sound like one.
I'm just here for legal advice.
Basically, he is saying.
Buy American.
Love your name and profile pic!
I’m just here for a walk down memory lane….
@@FlameBlue9016 Pepperidge farms remembers....
@@logancurl9526 o/
It isn't really a suppressor till the wholes are drilled. That is my understanding.
The movies made silencers evil now our hearing suffers
facts. in other countries you are just an asshole if you show up at the range without a silencer...
Na don't think it was the movies. They were coved in the nfa in the 1930's? Don't think movies were the big deal they are today.
@@tbjtbj4786 there was a tax from then till the 60s but it wasn't 200 bones and background checks were simply not realistic in that timeframe
Kurb Stomper Actually, it’s always been a $200 tax stamp, it was originally intended to prevent people from being able to afford it, but the price never went up soooooooooo, Filling out my form 1 next month
What?
If I attach an adaptor to the door of my truck and place a hole in the other door converting the entire vehicle into a single baffle suppressor, is the bank allowed to repossess it since the truck is now an NFA item?
I saw of some guy in Cali get one of these. It actually worked (as an oil filter 😉). Was cool to see them deliver it to Cali.
Hopefully the alphabet boys dont shoot the stuffed dog filled with tannerite......
This needs more likes... Lol
This is actually the funniest thing I've seen in a while....
Ruby Ridge bites back .
After the World Economic Forum and fake president said:
BITE BACK BETTER
i am only here for the WHITE BOARD OF KNOWLEDGE
WHITE BOARD OF KNOWLEDGE!! Will the slutty dolls ever get out of quarentine?
Best to get a second opinion on The White Board of Legal Advice !
@@rohawaha green screen of legal advice. Can't get them mixed up.
My first view or your channel. I'm not going to sleep tonight. I love your patriotism! I agree with u on a lot of points. People need to hear more of this everyday
Are there any qd systems for a monocore filter solvent trap? I clean my guns alot and it is a pain to take off the muzzle brake to thread a solvent trap on.
I was thinking that when you mentioned they give you the option of filing a form 1 to get it.. that just proved intent and they would definitely try to charge you then because you just proved their case for them.
Weird... I found this in the constitution. "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
I had a muzzel device go to secondary customs .but it was quickly released
You missed the cone baffles in the OSOK picture.
What books were you referring to in your 1st video a few days ago the one by col chinn from the library of Congress or another?
I believe I was told someone sells an oilfilter adapter that you go thru the ins and outs to "legally" use it as a silencer so if I'm not miss remembering surely it would be on the adapter
Any update on this? are oil filter solvent traps still legal?
that's the same thing that they do with bongs over here in the aus what there doing with the silencer
I'm not a lawyer , but when you asked if there is a law against that type of action I believe it falls under entrapment if they intend to have you grab the item from their state and break several federal laws. But I wouldn't be surprised if the ATF was pulling a stunt like this they're not necessarily known for having a professional attitude or method of enforcement
IANAL, but if an arms company is selling a tube with end caps, one of which having the standard threading for a suppressor, then they are effectively selling you a silencer without a baffle stack. The tube gets the serial number, so that's the silencer. So if you want some real fun, you can cut a bunch of tubes from an appropriate sized pipe and get them serialized on the Form-1 and have a bunch of silencers that don't attach to anything. Once you get the tax stamps, you can then finish them or not as you see fit.
What adaptor can you buy at Wallmart (or for that matter any other common store) that has a 1/2"-28 thread?
1/2"-13 and 1/2"-20 are the common 1/2" coarse and fine thread, 1/2-28 is an oddball superfine thread that I don't know of anything that uses it besides
www.walmart.com/ip/GZYF-1-2-28-to-3-4-16-Threaded-Adapter-Black-Stainless-Steel-Straight-Automotive-Oil-Filter/728896951
@@CRSFirearms Yea, but not available in store...
That us company shipped a threaded on both ends tube with a bunch of baffle inserts that looked like endcaps
Cough Cough. Maglight, small block chevy freeze plugs. Plug The on off switch.. Im not an Attorney. I am A Hill billy
What do you do with the end plates?
Hahahhaa! Funny effer!
Basically, you are saying.
Buy American flashlights?
@@claytonatkinson865 need 2 of the lights. Strip. Down. Use battery end caps at both ends. Not very hard. BUT it Does require some drill and tapping..
bansheemania got it. I appreciate ya bubba ;) that’s one of them things that you kick yourself for not figuring out on your own haha
Could you use the monocore fuel filter to clean a 300 Blackout using 300 Whisper?
You could still fill out the form 1 because you could be buying it to make it a legal suppressor. You're buying a solvent trap. It's not a suppressor until you drill that hole
So do I have to register a pillow ? That has been used for years as a silencer!!
Let's get this outta the way, we shouldn't be discussing "legalities/legal advice" for things we have a RIGHT to purchase and own!! regulating suppressors or ANY Other thing involving our right to arms, is infringement...... which makes them LEGAL!
Using a suppressor with supersonic 223/5.56 ammo, reduce the dB level by about 25-30 points.. So, a 223/5.56 averages around 170 dB at the muzzle. Suppressed your talking about 140/145 decibels. Still very loud, but not as loud. Now, you can use sub-sonic ammo and get the sound down to almost nothing, but the bullet doesn't have the velocity to do the same amount of damage, and bullet energy drops off very fast. Not to mention if your running it through an AR, it's going to take some significant alterations to get the ammo to cycle.
At first i thought id disagree with the presenter's position and argument. However, i can find no logical errors and the information presented is well thought out, factual, and logical. I believe i will subscribe. Thank u sir for your time, nicely said . Salute
Just the adapter needs the serial number and is stamped. It was designed so you could use any size oil filter you wanted for whatever situation.
There are devices that are classified as suppressors that do not screw on, they are quick attach/ detach. If you want to buy one of these, buy one for a 30 caliber and you can also use it on a 22 caliber gun, or any gun that is 30 caliber or less. This will save you some money.
Love it can’t wait for the next video you rock dude thank you LOL
Love the use of "brake" and not "break" haha
You can usually buy solvent traps at "shows".
You are not a monster , I like your content. Keep it up
kind off topic but what if the drugs where delivered and left on the door step and legit got stolen? would they think the guy had them delivered to another house and takes them to his real house or would they treat him as a thief? or would it be the other way round and think he is a thief when in fact he is the guy that order the drugs and had them deliver to another house?
Technically you could sue the agency that unlawfully seized your property, in federal court.
Thank you for posting this and you correct its all about intent.
This was very informative! Thanks for posting.
Does anyone here know any manufacturer that sells those stripped lowers with the extended pocket
Asking for a friend
Oh nice this is going to be a bomb vid. Thanks
I got one of those mails when my weed seeds got seized years ago... I just ordered more.
I ordered 2 solvent traps with the honest INTENT to use them as solvent traps. a couple of months ago from China. And we all know how long it takes to get stuff from China and this was before the covid scare. Anyways I tracked them with the provided tracking number and they sit in new York customs for over 2 weeks and then just dissapeared I never got them or a letter from customs.
I DO have the intent to turn mine into suppressors, legally, and received two of them, different colors, just fine. The third one, another different color, was stopped before it ever left China, and my money refunded. Not sure as to why, but I think it was because of the fake plandemic.
I'm not sure what it is you bought but you can definitely buy a solvent trap that directly screws on and filters as advertised out of the box.
If that was the case mini aluminium bat w insulation in and a few drill holes makes a very good supressor
Can you please send me a link for the cleaning products??????
Dammit I was gonna get the Chinese ones and pay the tax and machine them into supressors since for some reason regular supressors are around 5, 6, 700 bucks and the $200 tax stamp. The other day I went to the range and my girl loved shooting my AR but had to walk out because of the loud noise even with hearing protection
I thought those were motorcycle hand grips, they do look kinda cool.
Dude thats what i got mine for !!
The "muzzle brakes" that are moncore looking. Are those illegal by themselves? I just think they look cool and i don't plan to make a silencer from them.
That muzzle loader you mentioned was the silencerco maxim 50
What is a solvent trap and how would you use it for its intended purpose?
Trapping solvent
If you are a Diesel Fitter and have filters delivered to your home you could end up with a visit from the alphabet agencies, (it has happened all over the country)
Also this is the same manoeuvre used by US Customs at the behest of Apple when Apple owners try to import batteries, screens and cables to be able to repair their Iphone/Ipad only there they use the excuse of the items being counterfeit/pirated parts.
the only thing that seems funky is that it looks like you have to fill the form 1 BEFORE buying the parts, because if you APPLY for a form 1 while having the parts, that shows the intent to manufacture a suppressor with the parts you have, that's where it seems illegal, since you aren't legally allowed to it with that intent yet
There's a modified CVA inline muzzleloader in some random gun store that has what appears to maybe be a solvent trap on the end of the barrel. I asked the man behind the counter if it was what it looked like and he confirmed it. Said I could walk out the door that day with it
Can't wait to see your testing of the suppressors.
I was thinking the same with those Chinese “solvent traps” lol
If I would ever try one I'd try and find a thin steel tube slightly bigger to make sure itll keep from failing.
How can I order one of these solvent cleaning products??????do you have a link????
Nice try ATF
Dude your no monster your the only person i found thats for the ppl and not a government kiss ass u give us the info and let us make of it what we will thank you your vids are awesome
I hope there's not an issue cuz I ordered one to make my similar TH-cam video.
I'd like to point out that crossing state lines without an approved form 23 for a silender is NOT a crime. This is only required for SBR's, SBS'S, MG's, and DD'S. AOW's and suppressors are exempt of this requirement. Otherwise, everything you said I found very interesting. Didn't even think about having to pick it up in a state where they're illegal - that's obviously sticky.
I prefer you using the “Old Hickory” knife as a pointer. Way cooler and a more practical knife.
I love that he points at the board w a big knife! Haha
1/2 vs 5/8, what is the difference?
Love your videos, and nice ink Bro, I'm torn between ink and extra pew pew accessories.
Keep in mind, even if you intend to manufacture a suppressor, it is unlawful to possess the parts before you have an approved Form 1.
How do you prove intent?
Strange thing happened while watching your video on my phone. The location services (GPS) turned itself on. This setting I normally have turned off to save battery.
The part of the letter which encourages you to perform acts that might be illegal should be examined by a lawyer to determine if entrapment attaches. In layman's terms, entrapment is when the police or government cause you to do something illegal that you would not ordinarily do.
Safe passage with silencers if you fill out a form and don't intend on using it in those states. From what I understand.
From what I could read of the letter, seems like he needs approval to IMPORT the part and then, a Form 1 to build according to the “ATF” letter
In other words it did`nt meet import criteria.
Are monocore solvent traps illegal now ?
Got a paper today from U.S. Customs and Border Protection. It was seized at the end of December.
So is there a way to write them back and say, “You took my filter I need for my dirt bike, give it back.”?
Very educational keep up the good work
So if I went out and stole mail from someone else would that be considered a federal offense?
Why is the government against suppressors. I dont see why they would want to regulate it. But they love infringing.
They fear their tyranny will catch up to them and they don't want you to do it quietly
Money
In the original draft of the NFA handguns were listed. There was push back on that and they feared it would not pass so they substituted silencers. $200 in 1934 USD is about $5000 2020 USD.
In the past year I had bought these or similar fuel filters from China with no problem. They took about 1-2 months to receive them, but I did get them.
So if no laws were broken, and there is no intent, how could they legally take your property? I’ve heard about this happening ordering from wish, I wonder if they come pre drilled or something? Not sure how this is different from ordering one from a gun shop,
I don’t understand why silencers / suppressors were restricted in the first place.
That customs letter sure looks a lot like the asset forfeiture papers I got in the mail a while back... seemed sinister until I read the last sentence that said "This is a civil case, so no action is required." lol
Letter says you have 30 days to get a license to import. Is that the same as a form 1? Or a tax stamp? I must have missed something, I don’t see half the stuff you talked about in that letter. I think you are reading too much “in between the lines”. They say, “intercepted restricted items “ what exactly was in the box? You gave many examples, but what exactly? Seems to me a paralegal could wright a letter saying how the item doesn’t fit the definition and to release it. I like the follow up videos. Looking forward to part 3.
are flash hiders and muzzle breaks a nfa item
No. My rifle came with a standard muzzle brake, and I didn't have to do anything special to have it outside of ordering it through a local gun shop
Your awesome, Glad I found your channel! Fellow Cheesehead here.
U keep it to real , love the way u bring it... keep it up . ESPECIALLY FOR THE DOG KILLERS
Just like a lower that doesn't classify as as a firearm because it's not complete, a solvent trap or a fuel filter is not a supressor. 80% is 80%
Having spent time in Club Fed for making silencers and machine guns back in the 80's, I know a thing or two about them. First is they should be legal. I say this because only Hollywood can make a weapon truly silent. There are three things that make noise when you pull the trigger. The expanding gas, which is the only part which a silencer works on. Just as your car still makes noise with a muffler, you will not cancel all the noise from the expanding gas. If you are lucky you will remove 1/4 to 1/3 of this noise. The second item making noise is the projectile breaking the sound barrier. The speed of sound is around 1100 ft/sec. A 45 ACP at 240 grains travels at 940 ft/sec. I'm not sure of the 22 short. So you have a sonic boom to deal with. The third noise maker is the action of the weapon. So you need to make it a single shot.
Subsonic ammo is made for that purpose. I have it in 9mm, 308 and 5.56.
I received mine about 2 weeks ago
How much is your retainer fee, you know just in case.
Apply for the tax stamp before machining it further to attach to gun.. Seems to be the safest route.
I've pinned and welded them as barrel extensions to make 16" barrels.
Wonder what shit they’d give you for doing that bet they’d say it has to be don’t at the manufacture
Thanks for this video brother I’m gonna send pictures of the solvent trap I found
I will go ahead and NOT poke the bear. Reminds me of the guy who made the DIASs in like the late 80s-90s and said "how are those guys gonna know if I made them before 86? They cant prove it!" They proved it.
How did they prove it?
@@claytonatkinson865
They toss your ass in Club Fed and say "Prove you didn't."
Attempt to fight a tyrannical government alone, and you will lose. Every time.
@@claytonatkinson865 there was a window to register any that you already had. After that, all unregistered ones were considered post-samples. Gotta be an SOT to have those
Awesome video brother....
We had a member of the Air Force arrested over ordering one of these. There were other things wrong, but this was the thing that got the alphabet boys looking at him in the first place, and these are the charges that are likely to stick.
KAFB -- March 19, 2020. Arrested for illegal importation of firearm and illegal possession of a silencer.
Are you fukn serious
@@mobius-1503 Yes, seriously, this actually happened in NM.
@Interested by youtube Yeah, see "There were other things wrong." None of those other things are what he's being charged with -- most of those things aren't illegal, they're just dumb.
The "Illegally importing a firearm" charge came out of the online fuel filter. That, and possession of a silencer are the only two charges being pressed against him currently. Since this is in civvy court, not .mil court, both of those _have_ to be related to the mailed "fuel filter." See this part:
"The complaint notes that possession of both the auto-sear attachment and the buttstock are illegal and that Justice received both items from Chinese vendors. No additional charges have been filed regarding those devices, but Justice also faces the possibility of additional charges in military court."
Anything found in the related search has to go through a court martial, which is worse for him.
Personally I don’t give a crap what our boys and girls have while in the military. What ever they deem is needed for survival, they should have. If they want a silencer, full auto, explosives. Then give it to them. If for some reason those that abuse their ability, then deal with them, not hamper everyone.
I didn't hear any BAD legal advice in the last video or this one.
grumpybill then you weren't listening. All legal advice is bad unless it comes from a lawyer you're paying to give it to you. But this guy is an idiot.
IKR, the examples he gives about getting cocaine in the mail just make it so easy to understand! smh
@@thestonethatthebuilderrefu5231 all lawyers practice law. I'd take advice from this guy before someone impersonating a professional.
Brother, you're in Wisconsin? Were is your shop? I'm in Portage.
It’s in Coloma off I-39 north of you. Thread adapter, freeze plugs, and #4003 in-line fuel filter.
What kind of store do you own? Like what kind of store are you standing in where you record all these videos? Lol I’m just curious the isle your standing in looks like it has board games and a bunch of other random items lol
I want to know more about how to brake the law....just in case I break a law.
Thanks for educating,"We The People".
The next letter will be please submit a fine-payment which can be mailed as a money order or Moneygram to my office in Nigeria....