Guys, have you ever thought about the possibility, that this is a fake letter sent by the scamming seller who just stole your money and sent the fake letter in order to make you stop poking around and quietly let him enjoy your money? I live in Europe and I'm not familiar with the US government officials communication, but I am pretty sure this is a document counterfeit and a selling scam. I'd suggest every recipient of such letter to get a lawyer and sue the crap out of the scammer...
Why not order one and if a letter comes contact the atf? They'd have a record. Or maybe just double check phone numbers on the document to see if they're legit.
Govt requires you to put a muffler on your car or they will fine you. But if you want to put a muffler on the loudest thing you own, they make you fill out paperwork, get fingerprints and pictures, pay $200 for a permission stamp and wait a year. Why do we tolerate this bull-butter?
@@mobius-1503 this is my theory. Also this should work with machineguns. You have to be SQUEAKING CLEAN and coordinate with at least one other person in each Judicial district first. You're going to need a LOT of money because there's no contingency money if they win. I also am not an attorney. You and others in different judicial districts get arrested for making a silencer or be denied by government to make a machinegun, find a firearm lawyer that HAS argued in the supreme court, pay a LOT of money, put many miles on your car driving to and from court, and have ample vacation time from work. Again, just a theory.
@@joshuasandine3791 That's wrong... they don't touch the bullet. The exception being the oil filter which has to be shot through first before it will work properly.
There are noise laws, your lawn mower has to have a muffler cars have to have mufflers anything real loud has to have a muffler I want a muffler for my gun.
Kurb Stomper Actually, it’s always been a $200 tax stamp, it was originally intended to prevent people from being able to afford it, but the price never went up soooooooooo, Filling out my form 1 next month
Let's get this outta the way, we shouldn't be discussing "legalities/legal advice" for things we have a RIGHT to purchase and own!! regulating suppressors or ANY Other thing involving our right to arms, is infringement...... which makes them LEGAL!
Weird... I found this in the constitution. "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
At first i thought id disagree with the presenter's position and argument. However, i can find no logical errors and the information presented is well thought out, factual, and logical. I believe i will subscribe. Thank u sir for your time, nicely said . Salute
If I attach an adaptor to the door of my truck and place a hole in the other door converting the entire vehicle into a single baffle suppressor, is the bank allowed to repossess it since the truck is now an NFA item?
My first view or your channel. I'm not going to sleep tonight. I love your patriotism! I agree with u on a lot of points. People need to hear more of this everyday
Having spent time in Club Fed for making silencers and machine guns back in the 80's, I know a thing or two about them. First is they should be legal. I say this because only Hollywood can make a weapon truly silent. There are three things that make noise when you pull the trigger. The expanding gas, which is the only part which a silencer works on. Just as your car still makes noise with a muffler, you will not cancel all the noise from the expanding gas. If you are lucky you will remove 1/4 to 1/3 of this noise. The second item making noise is the projectile breaking the sound barrier. The speed of sound is around 1100 ft/sec. A 45 ACP at 240 grains travels at 940 ft/sec. I'm not sure of the 22 short. So you have a sonic boom to deal with. The third noise maker is the action of the weapon. So you need to make it a single shot.
There are devices that are classified as suppressors that do not screw on, they are quick attach/ detach. If you want to buy one of these, buy one for a 30 caliber and you can also use it on a 22 caliber gun, or any gun that is 30 caliber or less. This will save you some money.
Dude your no monster your the only person i found thats for the ppl and not a government kiss ass u give us the info and let us make of it what we will thank you your vids are awesome
In the past year I had bought these or similar fuel filters from China with no problem. They took about 1-2 months to receive them, but I did get them.
I will go ahead and NOT poke the bear. Reminds me of the guy who made the DIASs in like the late 80s-90s and said "how are those guys gonna know if I made them before 86? They cant prove it!" They proved it.
@@claytonatkinson865 They toss your ass in Club Fed and say "Prove you didn't." Attempt to fight a tyrannical government alone, and you will lose. Every time.
@@claytonatkinson865 there was a window to register any that you already had. After that, all unregistered ones were considered post-samples. Gotta be an SOT to have those
Using a suppressor with supersonic 223/5.56 ammo, reduce the dB level by about 25-30 points.. So, a 223/5.56 averages around 170 dB at the muzzle. Suppressed your talking about 140/145 decibels. Still very loud, but not as loud. Now, you can use sub-sonic ammo and get the sound down to almost nothing, but the bullet doesn't have the velocity to do the same amount of damage, and bullet energy drops off very fast. Not to mention if your running it through an AR, it's going to take some significant alterations to get the ammo to cycle.
IANAL, but if an arms company is selling a tube with end caps, one of which having the standard threading for a suppressor, then they are effectively selling you a silencer without a baffle stack. The tube gets the serial number, so that's the silencer. So if you want some real fun, you can cut a bunch of tubes from an appropriate sized pipe and get them serialized on the Form-1 and have a bunch of silencers that don't attach to anything. Once you get the tax stamps, you can then finish them or not as you see fit.
In the original draft of the NFA handguns were listed. There was push back on that and they feared it would not pass so they substituted silencers. $200 in 1934 USD is about $5000 2020 USD.
If you are a Diesel Fitter and have filters delivered to your home you could end up with a visit from the alphabet agencies, (it has happened all over the country) Also this is the same manoeuvre used by US Customs at the behest of Apple when Apple owners try to import batteries, screens and cables to be able to repair their Iphone/Ipad only there they use the excuse of the items being counterfeit/pirated parts.
We had a member of the Air Force arrested over ordering one of these. There were other things wrong, but this was the thing that got the alphabet boys looking at him in the first place, and these are the charges that are likely to stick. KAFB -- March 19, 2020. Arrested for illegal importation of firearm and illegal possession of a silencer.
@Interested by youtube Yeah, see "There were other things wrong." None of those other things are what he's being charged with -- most of those things aren't illegal, they're just dumb. The "Illegally importing a firearm" charge came out of the online fuel filter. That, and possession of a silencer are the only two charges being pressed against him currently. Since this is in civvy court, not .mil court, both of those _have_ to be related to the mailed "fuel filter." See this part: "The complaint notes that possession of both the auto-sear attachment and the buttstock are illegal and that Justice received both items from Chinese vendors. No additional charges have been filed regarding those devices, but Justice also faces the possibility of additional charges in military court." Anything found in the related search has to go through a court martial, which is worse for him.
Personally I don’t give a crap what our boys and girls have while in the military. What ever they deem is needed for survival, they should have. If they want a silencer, full auto, explosives. Then give it to them. If for some reason those that abuse their ability, then deal with them, not hamper everyone.
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Love it can’t wait for the next video you rock dude thank you LOL
You could still fill out the form 1 because you could be buying it to make it a legal suppressor. You're buying a solvent trap. It's not a suppressor until you drill that hole
I'm no gun expert by far. I know very little about ammunition however that being said. About a year ago I was over at a friend's house and somebody brought over these bullets that they said are muffled like a silencer. I found it very hard to believe that any bullet could ever be muffled like it just went through a silencer. And yes I'm aware it's not the bullet that makes the noise I'm aware of how the noise is made and what needs to be silenced. With that put aside, what I'm saying is is that there is a bullet out there that does seem to sound like it has a silencer built into it and I know that's impossible blah blah blah what I did find out about these bullets is that the amount of black powder that's in them or whatever you want to call it granules that are in that bullet is the reason it seems a lot quieter than it should be and when I went out and shot these rounds they sounded quieter than a 22 that's the only wait did I know there's bullets out there only because the amount of p gunpowder granules that are put into them it's a reduced size however they will still end your ass so who needs a muffler or a silencer or suppressor when you can just buy the ammunition that's going to be just as quiet as a suppressor would make it like I said I'm not educated on the how this all works or what that means as far as power goes but I know they exist so don't take me as I'm some know-it-all cuz I'm not if anybody wants to weigh in on this ball means put some education here but for those of you that don't know there's something out there that's perfectly legal that's quiet
I ordered 2 solvent traps with the honest INTENT to use them as solvent traps. a couple of months ago from China. And we all know how long it takes to get stuff from China and this was before the covid scare. Anyways I tracked them with the provided tracking number and they sit in new York customs for over 2 weeks and then just dissapeared I never got them or a letter from customs.
I DO have the intent to turn mine into suppressors, legally, and received two of them, different colors, just fine. The third one, another different color, was stopped before it ever left China, and my money refunded. Not sure as to why, but I think it was because of the fake plandemic.
I'd like to point out that crossing state lines without an approved form 23 for a silender is NOT a crime. This is only required for SBR's, SBS'S, MG's, and DD'S. AOW's and suppressors are exempt of this requirement. Otherwise, everything you said I found very interesting. Didn't even think about having to pick it up in a state where they're illegal - that's obviously sticky.
I was thinking that when you mentioned they give you the option of filing a form 1 to get it.. that just proved intent and they would definitely try to charge you then because you just proved their case for them.
The part of the letter which encourages you to perform acts that might be illegal should be examined by a lawyer to determine if entrapment attaches. In layman's terms, entrapment is when the police or government cause you to do something illegal that you would not ordinarily do.
the only thing that seems funky is that it looks like you have to fill the form 1 BEFORE buying the parts, because if you APPLY for a form 1 while having the parts, that shows the intent to manufacture a suppressor with the parts you have, that's where it seems illegal, since you aren't legally allowed to it with that intent yet
grumpybill then you weren't listening. All legal advice is bad unless it comes from a lawyer you're paying to give it to you. But this guy is an idiot.
I'm not a lawyer , but when you asked if there is a law against that type of action I believe it falls under entrapment if they intend to have you grab the item from their state and break several federal laws. But I wouldn't be surprised if the ATF was pulling a stunt like this they're not necessarily known for having a professional attitude or method of enforcement
There is Constitutional protection against the confiscation of property without just compensation, but that's in a real Court (non USC Title 28 3002 15a admin kangaroo ). Anyways as far as getting a BAR member to put together a case for these violations, just not enough pressure or money in it. Good continuation of the last video too I think that people will be very interested to see all the product out there👍👍.
Hey, kid! I like your new tat. I ordered a couple of those non-silencers because I need a break from this lockdown and I want to see the ATF boys rappel down from my ceilings. I hope they call ahead so I can film it. I just need to figure out how to get it over to my big screen TV. Maybe I should get a YoubTube channel and post the video so my friends and enemies can watch it. Then I could remind everyone that they need to eat more meat ... and spuds. And none of that damn Aussie beef they've started importing. I damn near have to pay the packing plant to take my cattle now. I'm talking to you, too, kid! Those skinny-ass arms practically scream vegetarian ... or effing vegan ... or turkey ham eater. You need real meat ... BEEF!!! Anyway, I'll let you know how things work out with the ATF. Do you think it would help if an anonymous source reported that I'm expecting a suspicious package? Is there any place where I can also get one of those bump stocks thingies? Would that increase my odds for getting raided? I'm losing my ass on these cattle, so it would be great if I could live off of the government's tit for awhile since China says that this CCP virus is actually from the US Army. I sure wish I could claim to be an illegal alien so I could get free shit. I mean, I've been supporting the government bureaucracy for all my life, it's about time I got something back. Anyway, thanks for the video. Take care and keep your barrel clean. Bo Leggs.
lol that was the weirdest right leaning nonsense ive seen in a long time. who doesnt want beef? if you cant sell your stock, that's your problem. isnt that capitalism? dont you like capitalism? why dont you investigate why you cant sell your beef, or sell it cheaper to people that will appreciate your beef. i mean there's always options when beef is concerned. isnt there a social media option for selling meats to people? if not make one and become a millionaire, and pay me in beef lol. also do you have to pay the people that take care of your stock? or are you able to offer room & board situations? not sure how that works exactly, farms have a really bad history of enslavement so yeah...
Dammit I was gonna get the Chinese ones and pay the tax and machine them into supressors since for some reason regular supressors are around 5, 6, 700 bucks and the $200 tax stamp. The other day I went to the range and my girl loved shooting my AR but had to walk out because of the loud noise even with hearing protection
I have a 10x1.5 inch version of the solvent filter on my .22 rifle. At first it didnt work good, I put aluminum flashing tape over the inside baffles and shot a round through it with the cover off to "drill" a hole through them. This tightened the tolerances to where it just makes a "crack" noise now, The mechanical sound of the hammer is now the noisiest part of the rifle. I am all for regulating these things, All guns should be required to have them, Think about it, do cars have mufflers? Its required by law. Let's stop calling them silencers and call them mufflers. It will be easier politicaly.
I’m just here for the free legal advice. 🤪 Seriously though, shouldn’t they be stopping real criminals. Most of these guys know modulators, suppressors or silencers whatever you want to call them don’t actually make guns super quiet, simply as loud as someone yelling or at least talking like a loud drunk person at a rav. It’s all just theatre for the sheep.
So are Super Colibri rounds but they are pretty weak and unless you pop someone in the skull at point blank they won’t do much. No free lunch in nature.
You should hear my 450ftlb .338 PCP air rifle.. 5 shot groups at 500y are 1 minute or better and the gun is half moa at 200 consistently. With a 10in Monocore LDC (lead dust collector as we call them in the Air gun world lol) suppressors... its pushing a 180g lead slug at 1040fps at the muzzle. The gun is extremely quiet like you hear hammer hitting the valve and thats it.. very very little muzzle report. I have taken pigs in the 150lb range out to 400y with that gun and 180g pure lead sptizer HPs that open up to around .60 and near pass thru at 400y. I have taken two deer in the last 2 weeks with it. One at 120y and one at 200y. One was DRT and the other ran about 30 feet. Full pass thru on one and on the second the slug punched thru the shoulder but was under the hide on the exit side so I recovered the projectile, this being a boat tail 180g notched HP (think of a uncoated Berger Hybrid) expansion was .64. You should have seen the near fist size hole in the lungs the projectile left and the totally destroyed exit side shoulder. The energy transfer is insane with those slugs. Firearms don't create that bad of tissue trauma the wound channel 90% of what a mag center fire rifle wound channel looks like. There's more cavitation damage from powder burners but as far as wound channel and flesh/organ destruction the high powered airguns aren't that far off. I believe the energy dump isn't all that different as the big slug dumps 100% of its energy in the deer and the powder burners take a large amount out the exit side. I have pics of face book of that carcass and I assure you if you don't know better you would assume a mag .30 cal shooting a premium hunting bullet is what it was shot with. And you should have heard the impact. That 180g .338 hitting sounds like a sledge hammer hitting a tree when it hit... I have a 1300ftlb 50cal shooting 700g slugs with are just a gaping soft lead HP that i have shot big hogs with... you have never seen blood fountains until you have seen a double lung pass thru on a 400lb hog with that cannon. The .50 MR hollow point 700 grainers are a stunningly high performance round.
They want to keep everyone IGNORANT KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING KEEP US INFORMED WE KNOW YOU'RE NOT A LAWYER BUT YOU HAVE A LOT MORE COMONSENSE THAN MOST LAWYERS 😉 YOU ARE CONFEDENT IN YOUR SELF CAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT WE NEED MORE PEOPEL LIKE YOU
I just don't get why the feds don't want us to have silencers cause with a silencer I could shoot all I want in my backyard without worrying about disturbing my neighbors. Thanks for sharing knowledge . God bless you greatly.
What adaptor can you buy at Wallmart (or for that matter any other common store) that has a 1/2"-28 thread? 1/2"-13 and 1/2"-20 are the common 1/2" coarse and fine thread, 1/2-28 is an oddball superfine thread that I don't know of anything that uses it besides
There's a modified CVA inline muzzleloader in some random gun store that has what appears to maybe be a solvent trap on the end of the barrel. I asked the man behind the counter if it was what it looked like and he confirmed it. Said I could walk out the door that day with it
Imagine...When the founding fathers wrote the Constitution and the Bill of Rights ….And a Second Amendment that was "Not" to be Infringed..... And someone says "Hey lets create an agency that has No other purpose but to INFRINGE. Lets call it the ATF.....Why those o'l boys would prolly Smack the Stupid outta ya.
I believe I was told someone sells an oilfilter adapter that you go thru the ins and outs to "legally" use it as a silencer so if I'm not miss remembering surely it would be on the adapter
this is why it's important for people that manufacture their own "hunting supplies", to teach others how to manufacture, because then you arent profiting from such information, you are teaching, which is never illegal. however teaching is rarely profitable, so it's a moral situation, you only care about profits? or do you care truly about the 2nd amendment and your rights. it's a complicated issue to say the least. however i personally believe every american citizen should have at least one firearm and be able to legally own silencers, thermal vision, .50 cal rifles, etc... because the more safe we are with having weapons, the less we desire to use them. desire can be dangerous and can cause more harm than good. also everyone having firearms means everyone has a chance to defend themselves from threats foreign and domestic.
Guys, have you ever thought about the possibility, that this is a fake letter sent by the scamming seller who just stole your money and sent the fake letter in order to make you stop poking around and quietly let him enjoy your money? I live in Europe and I'm not familiar with the US government officials communication, but I am pretty sure this is a document counterfeit and a selling scam. I'd suggest every recipient of such letter to get a lawyer and sue the crap out of the scammer...
You know you might just be onto something
Of course all the only reason I know New York and Illinois is doing it is because when they track your packages that’s with the tracking number stops
If it was from the scammer wouldn't it have Chinese stamps in the top right hand corner of the envelope?
CRS Firearms I live in New York ,and I could say there pretty strict on a “restricted” items LOLL!!!!
Why not order one and if a letter comes contact the atf? They'd have a record. Or maybe just double check phone numbers on the document to see if they're legit.
Govt requires you to put a muffler on your car or they will fine you. But if you want to put a muffler on the loudest thing you own, they make you fill out paperwork, get fingerprints and pictures, pay $200 for a permission stamp and wait a year. Why do we tolerate this bull-butter?
We dont know where to fight it.. been trying to fight this in commitees but it always fails
Only because they want to hear you come one time. If you're going to come and go, the government doesn't care. LOL
@@mobius-1503 this is my theory. Also this should work with machineguns. You have to be SQUEAKING CLEAN and coordinate with at least one other person in each Judicial district first. You're going to need a LOT of money because there's no contingency money if they win. I also am not an attorney.
You and others in different judicial districts get arrested for making a silencer or be denied by government to make a machinegun, find a firearm lawyer that HAS argued in the supreme court, pay a LOT of money, put many miles on your car driving to and from court, and have ample vacation time from work.
Again, just a theory.
And shite that's only if your state will allow you to go the nfa route in the first place. Delaware ... Nope no nfa at all.
the word is " intent"......don't act dumb.....because it does make you sound like one.
There is no good reason suppressor shouldn't be legal. We need to renew the push to get these removed from the nfa.
But muh James Bond movies.
@@joshuasandine3791 That's wrong... they don't touch the bullet. The exception being the oil filter which has to be shot through first before it will work properly.
There are noise laws, your lawn mower has to have a muffler cars have to have mufflers anything real loud has to have a muffler I want a muffler for my gun.
@@joshuasandine3791 This ain't CSI Miami. Bullets don't hit the suppressor and they have absolutely zero impact on ballistic forensics
Make shift silencers. Look it up
I'm just here for legal advice.
Basically, he is saying.
Buy American.
Love your name and profile pic!
I’m just here for a walk down memory lane….
@@FlameBlue9016 Pepperidge farms remembers....
@@logancurl9526 o/
The movies made silencers evil now our hearing suffers
facts. in other countries you are just an asshole if you show up at the range without a silencer...
Na don't think it was the movies. They were coved in the nfa in the 1930's? Don't think movies were the big deal they are today.
@@tbjtbj4786 there was a tax from then till the 60s but it wasn't 200 bones and background checks were simply not realistic in that timeframe
Kurb Stomper Actually, it’s always been a $200 tax stamp, it was originally intended to prevent people from being able to afford it, but the price never went up soooooooooo, Filling out my form 1 next month
What?
Hopefully the alphabet boys dont shoot the stuffed dog filled with tannerite......
This needs more likes... Lol
This is actually the funniest thing I've seen in a while....
Ruby Ridge bites back .
After the World Economic Forum and fake president said:
BITE BACK BETTER
i am only here for the WHITE BOARD OF KNOWLEDGE
WHITE BOARD OF KNOWLEDGE!! Will the slutty dolls ever get out of quarentine?
Best to get a second opinion on The White Board of Legal Advice !
@@rohawaha green screen of legal advice. Can't get them mixed up.
Let's get this outta the way, we shouldn't be discussing "legalities/legal advice" for things we have a RIGHT to purchase and own!! regulating suppressors or ANY Other thing involving our right to arms, is infringement...... which makes them LEGAL!
Cough Cough. Maglight, small block chevy freeze plugs. Plug The on off switch.. Im not an Attorney. I am A Hill billy
What do you do with the end plates?
Hahahhaa! Funny effer!
Basically, you are saying.
Buy American flashlights?
@@claytonatkinson865 need 2 of the lights. Strip. Down. Use battery end caps at both ends. Not very hard. BUT it Does require some drill and tapping..
bansheemania got it. I appreciate ya bubba ;) that’s one of them things that you kick yourself for not figuring out on your own haha
It isn't really a suppressor till the wholes are drilled. That is my understanding.
Weird... I found this in the constitution. "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
I saw of some guy in Cali get one of these. It actually worked (as an oil filter 😉). Was cool to see them deliver it to Cali.
At first i thought id disagree with the presenter's position and argument. However, i can find no logical errors and the information presented is well thought out, factual, and logical. I believe i will subscribe. Thank u sir for your time, nicely said . Salute
If I attach an adaptor to the door of my truck and place a hole in the other door converting the entire vehicle into a single baffle suppressor, is the bank allowed to repossess it since the truck is now an NFA item?
Applying for any kind NFA item with the ATF is just the bringing the man into your life.
Can't wait to see your testing of the suppressors.
I was thinking the same with those Chinese “solvent traps” lol
If I would ever try one I'd try and find a thin steel tube slightly bigger to make sure itll keep from failing.
This man is dancing on the gray line, living on the edge!
Love the use of "brake" and not "break" haha
My first view or your channel. I'm not going to sleep tonight. I love your patriotism! I agree with u on a lot of points. People need to hear more of this everyday
Having spent time in Club Fed for making silencers and machine guns back in the 80's, I know a thing or two about them. First is they should be legal. I say this because only Hollywood can make a weapon truly silent. There are three things that make noise when you pull the trigger. The expanding gas, which is the only part which a silencer works on. Just as your car still makes noise with a muffler, you will not cancel all the noise from the expanding gas. If you are lucky you will remove 1/4 to 1/3 of this noise. The second item making noise is the projectile breaking the sound barrier. The speed of sound is around 1100 ft/sec. A 45 ACP at 240 grains travels at 940 ft/sec. I'm not sure of the 22 short. So you have a sonic boom to deal with. The third noise maker is the action of the weapon. So you need to make it a single shot.
Subsonic ammo is made for that purpose. I have it in 9mm, 308 and 5.56.
There are devices that are classified as suppressors that do not screw on, they are quick attach/ detach. If you want to buy one of these, buy one for a 30 caliber and you can also use it on a 22 caliber gun, or any gun that is 30 caliber or less. This will save you some money.
Dude your no monster your the only person i found thats for the ppl and not a government kiss ass u give us the info and let us make of it what we will thank you your vids are awesome
In the past year I had bought these or similar fuel filters from China with no problem. They took about 1-2 months to receive them, but I did get them.
I will go ahead and NOT poke the bear. Reminds me of the guy who made the DIASs in like the late 80s-90s and said "how are those guys gonna know if I made them before 86? They cant prove it!" They proved it.
How did they prove it?
@@claytonatkinson865
They toss your ass in Club Fed and say "Prove you didn't."
Attempt to fight a tyrannical government alone, and you will lose. Every time.
@@claytonatkinson865 there was a window to register any that you already had. After that, all unregistered ones were considered post-samples. Gotta be an SOT to have those
Make sure that the monocure is made of steel or titanium, aluminum burns through or deforms.
Using a suppressor with supersonic 223/5.56 ammo, reduce the dB level by about 25-30 points.. So, a 223/5.56 averages around 170 dB at the muzzle. Suppressed your talking about 140/145 decibels. Still very loud, but not as loud. Now, you can use sub-sonic ammo and get the sound down to almost nothing, but the bullet doesn't have the velocity to do the same amount of damage, and bullet energy drops off very fast. Not to mention if your running it through an AR, it's going to take some significant alterations to get the ammo to cycle.
IANAL, but if an arms company is selling a tube with end caps, one of which having the standard threading for a suppressor, then they are effectively selling you a silencer without a baffle stack. The tube gets the serial number, so that's the silencer. So if you want some real fun, you can cut a bunch of tubes from an appropriate sized pipe and get them serialized on the Form-1 and have a bunch of silencers that don't attach to anything. Once you get the tax stamps, you can then finish them or not as you see fit.
Man we miss you dude hope you see this mrs.csr
You are not a monster , I like your content. Keep it up
We are no longer the land of the free... just the land of the law abiding..
This was very informative! Thanks for posting.
Thank you for posting this and you correct its all about intent.
Thanks for educating,"We The People".
Oh nice this is going to be a bomb vid. Thanks
Dude I just give you a hundred bucks for legal advise. Wait a minute so your not really a lawyer? Lol just busting ur balls!
Thank you, Plato Allegory of the Cave....from Texas.
Technically you could sue the agency that unlawfully seized your property, in federal court.
Why is the government against suppressors. I dont see why they would want to regulate it. But they love infringing.
They fear their tyranny will catch up to them and they don't want you to do it quietly
Money
In the original draft of the NFA handguns were listed. There was push back on that and they feared it would not pass so they substituted silencers. $200 in 1934 USD is about $5000 2020 USD.
If you are a Diesel Fitter and have filters delivered to your home you could end up with a visit from the alphabet agencies, (it has happened all over the country)
Also this is the same manoeuvre used by US Customs at the behest of Apple when Apple owners try to import batteries, screens and cables to be able to repair their Iphone/Ipad only there they use the excuse of the items being counterfeit/pirated parts.
We had a member of the Air Force arrested over ordering one of these. There were other things wrong, but this was the thing that got the alphabet boys looking at him in the first place, and these are the charges that are likely to stick.
KAFB -- March 19, 2020. Arrested for illegal importation of firearm and illegal possession of a silencer.
Are you fukn serious
@@mobius-1503 Yes, seriously, this actually happened in NM.
@Interested by youtube Yeah, see "There were other things wrong." None of those other things are what he's being charged with -- most of those things aren't illegal, they're just dumb.
The "Illegally importing a firearm" charge came out of the online fuel filter. That, and possession of a silencer are the only two charges being pressed against him currently. Since this is in civvy court, not .mil court, both of those _have_ to be related to the mailed "fuel filter." See this part:
"The complaint notes that possession of both the auto-sear attachment and the buttstock are illegal and that Justice received both items from Chinese vendors. No additional charges have been filed regarding those devices, but Justice also faces the possibility of additional charges in military court."
Anything found in the related search has to go through a court martial, which is worse for him.
Personally I don’t give a crap what our boys and girls have while in the military. What ever they deem is needed for survival, they should have. If they want a silencer, full auto, explosives. Then give it to them. If for some reason those that abuse their ability, then deal with them, not hamper everyone.
Love it can’t wait for the next video you rock dude thank you LOL
You could still fill out the form 1 because you could be buying it to make it a legal suppressor. You're buying a solvent trap. It's not a suppressor until you drill that hole
I'm no gun expert by far. I know very little about ammunition however that being said. About a year ago I was over at a friend's house and somebody brought over these bullets that they said are muffled like a silencer. I found it very hard to believe that any bullet could ever be muffled like it just went through a silencer. And yes I'm aware it's not the bullet that makes the noise I'm aware of how the noise is made and what needs to be silenced. With that put aside, what I'm saying is is that there is a bullet out there that does seem to sound like it has a silencer built into it and I know that's impossible blah blah blah what I did find out about these bullets is that the amount of black powder that's in them or whatever you want to call it granules that are in that bullet is the reason it seems a lot quieter than it should be and when I went out and shot these rounds they sounded quieter than a 22 that's the only wait did I know there's bullets out there only because the amount of p gunpowder granules that are put into them it's a reduced size however they will still end your ass so who needs a muffler or a silencer or suppressor when you can just buy the ammunition that's going to be just as quiet as a suppressor would make it like I said I'm not educated on the how this all works or what that means as far as power goes but I know they exist so don't take me as I'm some know-it-all cuz I'm not if anybody wants to weigh in on this ball means put some education here but for those of you that don't know there's something out there that's perfectly legal that's quiet
I thought those were motorcycle hand grips, they do look kinda cool.
Dude thats what i got mine for !!
Keep in mind, even if you intend to manufacture a suppressor, it is unlawful to possess the parts before you have an approved Form 1.
How do you prove intent?
I ordered 2 solvent traps with the honest INTENT to use them as solvent traps. a couple of months ago from China. And we all know how long it takes to get stuff from China and this was before the covid scare. Anyways I tracked them with the provided tracking number and they sit in new York customs for over 2 weeks and then just dissapeared I never got them or a letter from customs.
I DO have the intent to turn mine into suppressors, legally, and received two of them, different colors, just fine. The third one, another different color, was stopped before it ever left China, and my money refunded. Not sure as to why, but I think it was because of the fake plandemic.
I'd like to point out that crossing state lines without an approved form 23 for a silender is NOT a crime. This is only required for SBR's, SBS'S, MG's, and DD'S. AOW's and suppressors are exempt of this requirement. Otherwise, everything you said I found very interesting. Didn't even think about having to pick it up in a state where they're illegal - that's obviously sticky.
Very educational keep up the good work
Idk this guy has some SMART points
Great Video. Thank you for your contribution. 👍
I prefer you using the “Old Hickory” knife as a pointer. Way cooler and a more practical knife.
I was thinking that when you mentioned they give you the option of filing a form 1 to get it.. that just proved intent and they would definitely try to charge you then because you just proved their case for them.
Apply for the tax stamp before machining it further to attach to gun.. Seems to be the safest route.
Just the adapter needs the serial number and is stamped. It was designed so you could use any size oil filter you wanted for whatever situation.
The part of the letter which encourages you to perform acts that might be illegal should be examined by a lawyer to determine if entrapment attaches. In layman's terms, entrapment is when the police or government cause you to do something illegal that you would not ordinarily do.
the only thing that seems funky is that it looks like you have to fill the form 1 BEFORE buying the parts, because if you APPLY for a form 1 while having the parts, that shows the intent to manufacture a suppressor with the parts you have, that's where it seems illegal, since you aren't legally allowed to it with that intent yet
I didn't hear any BAD legal advice in the last video or this one.
grumpybill then you weren't listening. All legal advice is bad unless it comes from a lawyer you're paying to give it to you. But this guy is an idiot.
IKR, the examples he gives about getting cocaine in the mail just make it so easy to understand! smh
@@thestonethatthebuilderrefu5231 all lawyers practice law. I'd take advice from this guy before someone impersonating a professional.
You missed the cone baffles in the OSOK picture.
I'm not a lawyer , but when you asked if there is a law against that type of action I believe it falls under entrapment if they intend to have you grab the item from their state and break several federal laws. But I wouldn't be surprised if the ATF was pulling a stunt like this they're not necessarily known for having a professional attitude or method of enforcement
U keep it to real , love the way u bring it... keep it up . ESPECIALLY FOR THE DOG KILLERS
That muzzle loader you mentioned was the silencerco maxim 50
There is Constitutional protection against the confiscation of property without just compensation, but that's in a real Court (non USC Title 28 3002 15a admin kangaroo ). Anyways as far as getting a BAR member to put together a case for these violations, just not enough pressure or money in it. Good continuation of the last video too I think that people will be very interested to see all the product out there👍👍.
Hey, kid! I like your new tat. I ordered a couple of those non-silencers because I need a break from this lockdown and I want to see the ATF boys rappel down from my ceilings. I hope they call ahead so I can film it. I just need to figure out how to get it over to my big screen TV. Maybe I should get a YoubTube channel and post the video so my friends and enemies can watch it. Then I could remind everyone that they need to eat more meat ... and spuds. And none of that damn Aussie beef they've started importing. I damn near have to pay the packing plant to take my cattle now. I'm talking to you, too, kid! Those skinny-ass arms practically scream vegetarian ... or effing vegan ... or turkey ham eater. You need real meat ... BEEF!!!
Anyway, I'll let you know how things work out with the ATF. Do you think it would help if an anonymous source reported that I'm expecting a suspicious package? Is there any place where I can also get one of those bump stocks thingies? Would that increase my odds for getting raided? I'm losing my ass on these cattle, so it would be great if I could live off of the government's tit for awhile since China says that this CCP virus is actually from the US Army. I sure wish I could claim to be an illegal alien so I could get free shit. I mean, I've been supporting the government bureaucracy for all my life, it's about time I got something back. Anyway, thanks for the video.
Take care and keep your barrel clean.
Bo Leggs.
lol that was the weirdest right leaning nonsense ive seen in a long time. who doesnt want beef? if you cant sell your stock, that's your problem. isnt that capitalism? dont you like capitalism?
why dont you investigate why you cant sell your beef, or sell it cheaper to people that will appreciate your beef. i mean there's always options when beef is concerned.
isnt there a social media option for selling meats to people? if not make one and become a millionaire, and pay me in beef lol. also do you have to pay the people that take care of your stock? or are you able to offer room & board situations? not sure how that works exactly, farms have a really bad history of enslavement so yeah...
Stream it live!
....I have no idea what I've just read. Thats enough TH-cam for now.
This is what public service announcements are supposed to look like
Just like a lower that doesn't classify as as a firearm because it's not complete, a solvent trap or a fuel filter is not a supressor. 80% is 80%
You can usually buy solvent traps at "shows".
Dammit I was gonna get the Chinese ones and pay the tax and machine them into supressors since for some reason regular supressors are around 5, 6, 700 bucks and the $200 tax stamp. The other day I went to the range and my girl loved shooting my AR but had to walk out because of the loud noise even with hearing protection
Its sad watching his videos with hine sight.
I have a 10x1.5 inch version of the solvent filter on my .22 rifle. At first it didnt work good, I put aluminum flashing tape over the inside baffles and shot a round through it with the cover off to "drill" a hole through them. This tightened the tolerances to where it just makes a "crack" noise now, The mechanical sound of the hammer is now the noisiest part of the rifle. I am all for regulating these things, All guns should be required to have them, Think about it, do cars have mufflers? Its required by law. Let's stop calling them silencers and call them mufflers. It will be easier politicaly.
Thanks for sharing the legal advice
I hope there's not an issue cuz I ordered one to make my similar TH-cam video.
Awesome video brother....
I’m just here for the free legal advice. 🤪
Seriously though, shouldn’t they be stopping real criminals. Most of these guys know modulators, suppressors or silencers whatever you want to call them don’t actually make guns super quiet, simply as loud as someone yelling or at least talking like a loud drunk person at a rav. It’s all just theatre for the sheep.
So are Super Colibri rounds but they are pretty weak and unless you pop someone in the skull at point blank they won’t do much. No free lunch in nature.
You should hear my 450ftlb .338 PCP air rifle.. 5 shot groups at 500y are 1 minute or better and the gun is half moa at 200 consistently.
With a 10in Monocore LDC (lead dust collector as we call them in the Air gun world lol) suppressors... its pushing a 180g lead slug at 1040fps at the muzzle.
The gun is extremely quiet like you hear hammer hitting the valve and thats it.. very very little muzzle report.
I have taken pigs in the 150lb range out to 400y with that gun and 180g pure lead sptizer HPs that open up to around .60 and near pass thru at 400y. I have taken two deer in the last 2 weeks with it. One at 120y and one at 200y. One was DRT and the other ran about 30 feet. Full pass thru on one and on the second the slug punched thru the shoulder but was under the hide on the exit side so I recovered the projectile, this being a boat tail 180g notched HP (think of a uncoated Berger Hybrid) expansion was .64. You should have seen the near fist size hole in the lungs the projectile left and the totally destroyed exit side shoulder. The energy transfer is insane with those slugs. Firearms don't create that bad of tissue trauma the wound channel 90% of what a mag center fire rifle wound channel looks like. There's more cavitation damage from powder burners but as far as wound channel and flesh/organ destruction the high powered airguns aren't that far off.
I believe the energy dump isn't all that different as the big slug dumps 100% of its energy in the deer and the powder burners take a large amount out the exit side.
I have pics of face book of that carcass and I assure you if you don't know better you would assume a mag .30 cal shooting a premium hunting bullet is what it was shot with. And you should have heard the impact. That 180g .338 hitting sounds like a sledge hammer hitting a tree when it hit... I have a 1300ftlb 50cal shooting 700g slugs with are just a gaping soft lead HP that i have shot big hogs with... you have never seen blood fountains until you have seen a double lung pass thru on a 400lb hog with that cannon. The .50 MR hollow point 700 grainers are a stunningly high performance round.
I got one of those mails when my weed seeds got seized years ago... I just ordered more.
Jeezz. .Just Let us Get silencers . I really REALLY hate Paper Work.
Wow I noticed there are no comments being critical of you. That's good, no one had anything negative to say on the internet
They want to keep everyone IGNORANT KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING KEEP US INFORMED WE KNOW YOU'RE NOT A LAWYER BUT YOU HAVE A LOT MORE COMONSENSE THAN MOST LAWYERS 😉 YOU ARE CONFEDENT IN YOUR SELF CAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT WE NEED MORE PEOPEL LIKE YOU
I had a muzzel device go to secondary customs .but it was quickly released
I'm suprised no one's sued for entrapment yet.
Entrapment is a myth. It was ruled against many years ago.
I received mine about 2 weeks ago
Shall not be infringed, this whole video is playing along with them. Stand up people
I'm giving you a like for the cut off sleeve Corona shirt. Because I'm wearing a cut off sleeve Corona shirt while watching this
You are correct. Just buy American. Many sell these for less than 100 bucks.
I want to know more about how to brake the law....just in case I break a law.
Got a paper today from U.S. Customs and Border Protection. It was seized at the end of December.
So is there a way to write them back and say, “You took my filter I need for my dirt bike, give it back.”?
I just don't get why the feds don't want us to have silencers cause with a silencer I could shoot all I want in my backyard without worrying about disturbing my neighbors. Thanks for sharing knowledge . God bless you greatly.
I've pinned and welded them as barrel extensions to make 16" barrels.
Wonder what shit they’d give you for doing that bet they’d say it has to be don’t at the manufacture
If that was the case mini aluminium bat w insulation in and a few drill holes makes a very good supressor
What adaptor can you buy at Wallmart (or for that matter any other common store) that has a 1/2"-28 thread?
1/2"-13 and 1/2"-20 are the common 1/2" coarse and fine thread, 1/2-28 is an oddball superfine thread that I don't know of anything that uses it besides
www.walmart.com/ip/GZYF-1-2-28-to-3-4-16-Threaded-Adapter-Black-Stainless-Steel-Straight-Automotive-Oil-Filter/728896951
@@CRSFirearms Yea, but not available in store...
Keep doing what your doing you're great 👍
I love your videos. Favorite gun channel
So do I have to register a pillow ? That has been used for years as a silencer!!
There's a modified CVA inline muzzleloader in some random gun store that has what appears to maybe be a solvent trap on the end of the barrel. I asked the man behind the counter if it was what it looked like and he confirmed it. Said I could walk out the door that day with it
I'm not sure what it is you bought but you can definitely buy a solvent trap that directly screws on and filters as advertised out of the box.
That us company shipped a threaded on both ends tube with a bunch of baffle inserts that looked like endcaps
Safe passage with silencers if you fill out a form and don't intend on using it in those states. From what I understand.
Imagine...When the founding fathers wrote the Constitution and the Bill of Rights ….And a Second Amendment that was "Not" to be Infringed..... And someone says "Hey lets create an agency that has No other purpose but to INFRINGE. Lets call it the ATF.....Why those o'l boys would prolly Smack the Stupid outta ya.
I believe I was told someone sells an oilfilter adapter that you go thru the ins and outs to "legally" use it as a silencer so if I'm not miss remembering surely it would be on the adapter
this is why it's important for people that manufacture their own "hunting supplies", to teach others how to manufacture, because then you arent profiting from such information, you are teaching, which is never illegal. however teaching is rarely profitable, so it's a moral situation, you only care about profits? or do you care truly about the 2nd amendment and your rights. it's a complicated issue to say the least. however i personally believe every american citizen should have at least one firearm and be able to legally own silencers, thermal vision, .50 cal rifles, etc...
because the more safe we are with having weapons, the less we desire to use them. desire can be dangerous and can cause more harm than good. also everyone having firearms means everyone has a chance to defend themselves from threats foreign and domestic.
Love your videos, and nice ink Bro, I'm torn between ink and extra pew pew accessories.