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  • This public lecture, recorded by TVO, describes the way the world is portrayed in deep stories, such as myths and religious representations. The world in such stories is a place of action, not a place of things, and it has its archetypal characters, positive and negative. Culture is typically represented as paternal, nature as maternal, and the individual as hero and adversary. Culture offers people security, but threatens them with tyranny. Nature offers renewal, but also brings death. The religious path of meaning allows people to negotiate this archetypal landscape.
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  • @Vladimyrful
    @Vladimyrful 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1053

    I cannot fully express my appreciation for this man. Dr. Peterson, you're without a doubt one of the heroes of our time.

    • @christopher.a.b9594
      @christopher.a.b9594 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fuck oath

    • @Jsmithyy
      @Jsmithyy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Like jesus but Jordan like the prophet but Jordan.

    • @hypemugen
      @hypemugen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      in my estimation, Jordan deserves his own statue somewhere. Really, i think he made history. At least to me, my life has been saved by one of his lectures when i was in the deepest chambers of my depression.

    • @Marlow224
      @Marlow224 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So true

    • @standinginson1
      @standinginson1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Vladimyr when I read this I felt what seems to be love , heartfelt appreciation in my stomach area, something like conscious. You have done a pretty good job of expressing that.

  • @trippwilliams7424
    @trippwilliams7424 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1007

    I have been thinking that psychology has failed us for several years until I heard Jordan Peterson. He is explaining the world and giving us a philosophy to live by using our religious traditions, philosophic traditions, history and science. I love how he criticizes the left and right and their ideologies, but at the same time points out how both sides are natural and necessary. This is crucial to healing the political war we are having today.

    • @pineapplaplatypotato
      @pineapplaplatypotato 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      But have you heard Rihanna's new song though?!

    • @kidkratoski3778
      @kidkratoski3778 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Spot bloody on!!!..old chap.

    • @brianandcindy1
      @brianandcindy1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Well said, Tripp. It is mind-boggling that people look at him as an idealogue, when he is anything but.

    • @lauras3666
      @lauras3666 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      brianandcindy1
      It’s because they don’t want to listen. To really listen makes you question. To question makes you uncomfortable. To question makes you change or to realize you should change.
      This is why they hate him. Plus I love the way he speaks in story form and dummies it down. It’s soft peddle of his questioning.

    • @aakkoin
      @aakkoin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yea dude, taoism... the duality of life, and the dynamic balance between the dualities. Scientific proof comes from Newton declaring "Every action has an opposite and equal re-action", a principle which has been scientifically proven to be true.

  • @steevieeray3062
    @steevieeray3062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    This man has looked into the Bible so deep it makes theologians question their faith. As Dr. Peterson would say “look deeper, and deeper, and deeper, then you will start to see the light. He is truly a gift.

    • @ramellcastro1575
      @ramellcastro1575 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm gonna take 5 grams of shrooms. Hopefully I have the sophistication to handle "unearned knowledge"
      Voluntarily going into the depth of my psyche and going through the depths of hell
      Hopefully I'll see the light

  • @roxee57
    @roxee57 8 ปีที่แล้ว +542

    I learned more about my depression & what I can do about it listening to this than anything I've learned during the years I've suffered from it. Thank you

    • @th3wand3r3r89
      @th3wand3r3r89 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Nice to see I'm not the only one.

    • @poisonsquid37
      @poisonsquid37 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      But without that suffering this lesson wouldn't have meant anything to you in the first place.

    • @maplenook
      @maplenook 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      roxee57 Try Alpha-Stim

    • @sabinacle1529
      @sabinacle1529 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      roxee57 me too

    • @YoursTrulyMrsMoores
      @YoursTrulyMrsMoores 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here ✌

  • @suddenuprising
    @suddenuprising 7 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    "if you walk into your study and you have a stack of papers, buried in the midst of which is your homework, you'll notice you have a very hard time looking at that stack of papers. and the reason for that is the stack of papers that you're ignoring, thats ageing and causing you more trouble with each passing day is a portal into order through which chaos is flowing. and if you ignore that long enough the chaos will flow through that portal and take over your room, and then take over your life."

    • @rmk5496
      @rmk5496 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Trauma based mind spook... He is hypnotising

    • @rmk5496
      @rmk5496 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      and he went insane

    • @m3mphis_chick944
      @m3mphis_chick944 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      wtf

    • @BoundlessRoamad
      @BoundlessRoamad 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rmk5496 It's a pretty simple metaphor actually

  • @Zzzooooppp
    @Zzzooooppp 9 ปีที่แล้ว +637

    wow this is one of the best TH-cam videos Ive ever seen. I was at UofT when he made this speech, going through hard times, feels strange knowing how much this would have helped me as a young undergrad.

    • @knownothing3364
      @knownothing3364 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is this what the destruction of the walls of babylon means ?

    • @TheMechanic204
      @TheMechanic204 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mitzvah Capacity!

    • @jessestevens_aka_jesus
      @jessestevens_aka_jesus 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Gotta recharge the mitzvah

    • @thepiperreport8198
      @thepiperreport8198 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is my third time listening to this lecture. I've listened to it twice on the podcast and once on YT so far

    • @orcawne
      @orcawne 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Feels strange? Try that when you're 70.

  • @tedskam
    @tedskam 7 ปีที่แล้ว +256

    I'm now watching Dr Petersons video lectures as a 50something man who has experienced many events he talks of, and I can tell you that exactly what happens to one in moments he speaks of, is what occurs.
    Its particularly fascinating watching these videos with hindsight . Its so much more than academic.

    • @estevesmartins7935
      @estevesmartins7935 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The Fight Between Good and Evil or between the occult and purity of heart in a nutshell

    • @willw6196
      @willw6196 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      tedskam .... Reading what you just said.. Sounds like Dr. Peterson in my mind..

    • @SmokinBilly
      @SmokinBilly 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I'm the same. I feel kind of embarrassed to admit that a guy who is only 1 year older than me is like the father I never had and I'm taking on board so much of what he says. There is such poignancy in everything he says and I am changing as a result but I can also see so much that has happened to me because of the things I did or didn't do through his revelations too. Still, better now than in 20 years. I make my 2 sons sit down every week to have our Jordan Peterson 20 minutes ! At least they will get a chance to become everything they could be !

    • @annamaria1929
      @annamaria1929 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      tedskam in total agreement as a 56 year old woman!

    • @kennycavender8290
      @kennycavender8290 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I can't get mY Dad to listen to JBP, or at least watch a few key videos that I think would help. He's also in his 50s. I bought 2 copies of his book in hopes we could read it together. I've made every attempt I can think of to present the ideas and concepts Peterson articulates as something that would enhance and transform our relationship with one another. Ive thought each act out carefully, but for some reason every attempt to further the development of his understanding fail, and the problems we have between us that are unresolved remain in stasis, and our relationship is not what it could be. It's gripping my soul. To the people who are a bit older, what would you say it is that allowed you listen, learn, and implement the common ideas or suggestions JBP has been talking about? Have Any of you had a tough time talking about something because it was a child of yours who proposed a particular topic, and instead of listening, maybe you were compelled to explain it to them on the spot because you knew and understood enough about it already? That's the scenario I see reflected when speaking with my dad. Curious to know what your experiences have been, much thanks.

  • @wjnrxx
    @wjnrxx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I've suffered from a depression since 2012. This video was uploaded on 2013. And I just found it today in 2018... Thank you Mr Peterson. You helped me a lot with this... I'm looking my way to get out from this misery... and if only I found this on 2013... but I guess it's better to be late than never... Thanks once again...

    • @ereintsful
      @ereintsful 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He has helped me more with my depression and self-esteem than years of therapy has.

    • @beckyg9831
      @beckyg9831 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bang Baron, please look at the newest videos from Jordan Peterson and his daughter, Mikhaila Peterson. They have fixed their depression through diet--a carnivore diet. It's all over TH-cam, and well worth a try if you're interested.

    • @ereintsful
      @ereintsful 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      His daughter is not on a carnivore diet. She only eats beef. Nothing but beef. Every day. Carnivores eat a variety of meat. It's the only Peterson thing I don't follow.

    • @Davidsmith-iv2oc
      @Davidsmith-iv2oc 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ereintsful How are you separating "eats only beef" and "eats only a variety of meats" into two diets. If his daughter only eats beef it's still a carnivore diet. You dont HAVE to diversify your meat portfolio to be a carnivore. What a short-sighted and stupid comment.

    • @ereintsful
      @ereintsful 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was just saying it was an all beef diet. I have no idea why you would be calling me stupid/short sighted etc. Calm down. I was just pointing out it was beef only, not a variety. Maybe you should think about what kind of person you are for reacting so strongly to a small comment. Your response is actually pretty disturbing. Are you okay? Maybe you had a bad day or something.

  • @taherhabib3180
    @taherhabib3180 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The depth of Dr. Peterson's thought processes is so remarkably clearly manifested in this talk! NO WONDER he chokes at such shallow questions as: "Do you believe in God?" And NO WONDER he responds with statements like "It depends on what you mean by believing and what you mean by God".
    Man! After listening to this talk I can say that my perceptions toward MY reality and my interaction with MY world have been transformed. I can't even imagine how much of a wisdom lies around (in his biblical lectures and other lectures combined) on TH-cam just because of this one person's channel.
    Thank you, Dr. Peterson. Your importance in these troubled times cannot ever be overestimated. I feel sorry for all your critiques - from neo-marxist, postmodernists types to atheist, rationality-rules types.

  • @kevincox1702
    @kevincox1702 7 ปีที่แล้ว +262

    Professor Peterson , I've been following all of your recent struggles with the totalitarian and authoritarian leftist thought police would just like to say like so many others have thank you for having the integrity to stand up for yourself and for all of us that value free speech this video absolutely blew my mind your explanations are brilliant, thorough and engaging. Thank you so much.

    • @HankCherry
      @HankCherry 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Kevin Cox I'm with you 100% Kevo...I'd take a fucking bullet for Jordan....fuck the Marxist..their day came and went...it's all over...majority of folks are level headed ! One or 2 generation will make all the difference....tyranny can only work on dumb people..I believe we are getting smarter...the last time anything had the impack of the WWW was the wheel...that's Titanic & Jordan is waking up millions of would be commi kids but he turns them around with pure logic...only a true genius can do that....cheers m8 Kevin Barry Lynch

    • @manuelr.knippingreynoso1371
      @manuelr.knippingreynoso1371 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Here here.

  • @porkyV2
    @porkyV2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    for one, he maintained my attention till the end of the video which is rare for me. secondly, he gave me consecutive epiphanies that i may have achieved betterment within 56 minutes. thirdly, its a crime that there are only 916 like on this and a measly 41,284 views. im spreading this around.

    • @billhildebrand5053
      @billhildebrand5053 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      porkyV2 now

    • @billhildebrand5053
      @billhildebrand5053 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      porkyV2 now oct 14 there Are 1000 comments with 15,000 likes and 385 non likes. 733,485 views.

    • @TheDionysianFields
      @TheDionysianFields 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      porkyV2 I want you as my publicist.

    • @Xperto_
      @Xperto_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@billhildebrand5053 4 years later it's at 1,132,199 views

  • @RareTechniques
    @RareTechniques 8 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    Probably the best online psychology out there!

  • @HenriFaust
    @HenriFaust 7 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    While I've been exposed to all of the ideas expressed in this lecture (I am rather well-read), I've never seen anyone put all of these ideas together in one place, or express the concepts quite so clearly and succinctly. You're doing good work!

    • @NegativeBodhiImage
      @NegativeBodhiImage 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Check out his Maps of Meaning lectures here on YT… mind blowing.

    • @HenriFaust
      @HenriFaust 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      charlie wired
      It was certainly mind-blowing when I first encountered it, yes.

    • @NegativeBodhiImage
      @NegativeBodhiImage 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      HenriFaust Ive read a lot of history, lit, and philosophy as well in my 46 years, but the way Dr Peterson weaves the threads together, in the order he presents the material, and in such plain easy to disseminate language was a real door opener for me with that particular lecture series… it helped me to digest concepts that I hadn't fully absorbed, comprehended, or retained well enough in solo study of the topics covered..
      I wouldn't say he is the most eloquent lecturer Ive encountered,,, but he certainly is one of the most impactful Ive heard speak.
      If only more Uni Profs had his level of intellect…. and the same dedication to their craft, as he.

    • @HenriFaust
      @HenriFaust 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      charlie wired
      I am the sort of person who reads faster than people speak and often gets bored listening to lectures. The only lectures that I find useful (from a perspective of time-management) are those with concurrent demonstrations (e.g. maths lectures), so I am looking into acquiring a copy Dr. Peterson's book.

    • @kallenijs
      @kallenijs 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In another video he mentions the book is online for free. The introduction to his Personality lectures if I'm not mistaken.. Also, reading is generally faster than listening to speaking, but youtube's double-speed function bridges that gap a little.

  • @melissafrederick6632
    @melissafrederick6632 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I have major depressive disorder and have been on medication for years. Listening to you has helped my mindset in way that could be a game changer for the battle of my mind. Thank you!

  • @SammyCee23
    @SammyCee23 6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Could this be Dr. Peterson's most brilliant speech ever?
    I just discovered this video. This is an oldie as it's from 2009. I only recently discovered Dr. Peterson since 2018.

    • @arizonaboy59
      @arizonaboy59 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's definitely a summary of his views and best philosophical/psychological insights.

  • @lucasfabisiak9586
    @lucasfabisiak9586 7 ปีที่แล้ว +220

    What a wealth of knowledge. There's so much here that it may require several viewings to synthesize.

    • @smittenkit
      @smittenkit 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Lucas Fabisiak I agree - I have to pause to absorb at times - amazing

    • @loremipsum7471
      @loremipsum7471 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Take a good long look at Atlas' penis. There's deep meaning there.

    • @asmrenjoyer2016
      @asmrenjoyer2016 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly

    • @susandarnell4884
      @susandarnell4884 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ^ "exactly" haahaha. Awesome. "...and then you think... and what might you do aboot that?" 0_o

    • @RyNiuu
      @RyNiuu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@susandarnell4884 ​I died

  • @medsurfing9655
    @medsurfing9655 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Please never stop sharing your wisdom. THANK YOU

  • @RareTechniques
    @RareTechniques 8 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    He just defined the meaning of life.
    Love you so much Jordan! Such intelligence!!

  • @DoclightmegamanX
    @DoclightmegamanX 8 ปีที่แล้ว +281

    This guy is a fucking genius. Or a Warlock. One of those.

    • @andrewplck
      @andrewplck 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Better than that. He is the ultimate master and teacher of all memes.

    • @mjb91
      @mjb91 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Kek.

    • @vincesc720
      @vincesc720 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I nominate Mckenna for this title

    • @robreke
      @robreke 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's the former. He's IQ is north of 150....so, genius.

    • @robertw2930
      @robertw2930 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      HE is ? maybe try His !!!

  • @lovelife7145
    @lovelife7145 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Glory be to God of heavens that i can learn from a professor whom i have never meet, for free. With such profound wisdom which in a million chances there is no way it would have been possible if i was deep down in my native village in Uganda! Indeed the internet has opened up all possibilities!

    • @jackc981
      @jackc981 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Love life, to God be glory

  • @JRtoujours
    @JRtoujours 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is probably the most powerful understanding of the story of the young man stroke dead when tempting to save the arch: "There are things you touch at your one peril, REGARDLESS of your intentions" so simple, so true !

  • @MsSlim81
    @MsSlim81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You helped save my life. Thank you so much. My kids needed me to save my life.

  • @Ploppin
    @Ploppin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm going through Dr. Peterson's lectures from oldest to newest.
    Finished this one!

  • @apocalypznow
    @apocalypznow 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1802

    This level of discourse should be introduced at the middle school level to begin the real education of young people.

    • @pineapplaplatypotato
      @pineapplaplatypotato 6 ปีที่แล้ว +120

      Yeah I think it'd actually be easier for kids to understand this stuff since they don't have much baggage or false beliefs to get in the way

    • @tylergammell4319
      @tylergammell4319 6 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Instead we treat children like children. I's like a tree whose leaves and roots are boxed in. One can speak to a child in a mature (though still clean) way and the child will speak and act more mature. Children should be allowed to grow, not protected from adversity in an absolute sense.

    • @lauras3666
      @lauras3666 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Tyler Gammell
      Not all of us, I have had many mind reaching conversations with my pre teens, teens and adult children.
      They call it my why revenge for their why stage lol because I always ask why do you think that.
      These are the skills that should be taught around the age of 9-10 years of age in school. I dream of the day where we as a society let go of grades and actually teach basic math, reading and the rest is why, without a social justice warrior, nor a one religion is better thinking.

    • @tobiasmuller8601
      @tobiasmuller8601 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      its hard to understand if you fear this kind of reality

    • @ignaspan
      @ignaspan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      it'd be hard for them to understand such complex ideas, so they have to be at least simplified.

  • @aBraveNewNormal
    @aBraveNewNormal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I think we should crowdfund to get a Jordan Peterson statue made, all
    of us supporters, he deserves his flowers while he is still here, we
    almost lost him. Jordan is a hero of our time and a savior of the divine
    Masculine, defender of Liberty

  • @MrKazezuma
    @MrKazezuma 7 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    That was brilliant. As an artificial intelligence researcher, I found this argument to be valid and sound.
    I would like to meet Dr. Peterson someday, and discuss AI in those terms.

    • @NegativeBodhiImage
      @NegativeBodhiImage 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I had the equivalent of a spiritual experience about 50 times throughout his Maps Of Meaning lectures.. You could set your watch to the frequency with which he blew my mind. A truly gifted and innovative thinker who can draw profound truths from a jigsaw amalgam of seemingly disparate and abstract ideas. (and make them reasonably comprehensible to the layman as well)

    • @francescop1
      @francescop1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I had the same feeling! The funny thing is he mentions this experience in the first lecture, but it wasn't until the second time through that I realised exactly what he meant. I wrote down what he said exactly:
      "sometimes you have an intuition of truth. it kind of goes click. It’s a pattern recognition mechanism. people generally have the feeling that when something like that happens, that something of truth has been revealed. A very common response I get from students is, i never told anyone anything they don’t already know. The reason for that is that like [carl] jung, I am drawing from archetypal structures. one of the cognitive phenomena that accompanies a spiritual awakening is the connection of many diverse phenomena into an overarching unity, a decrease in entropy. It’s a very powerful sensation. there’s other sources of what you might call spiritual experience, but that’s certainly one of them."
      if you read ray kurzweil's how to create a mind you will get a further insight into this pattern recognising mechanism

    • @NegativeBodhiImage
      @NegativeBodhiImage 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      francescop1 ^This!
      Its funny in an academic world, that these days, is focused on producing mouthpiece activists and hack profs encouraging people to find their own "personal truths"
      its refreshing to have someone like Dr Peterson … who concentrates on imparting universal and ineffable truths… which I would argue are the most important understandings we will ever possess..
      Impossible to indoctrinate people with, you can only help people to realize these concepts themselves, arming them with tools which are indispensable to dissecting the human experience more fully.

    • @hfyaer
      @hfyaer 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      MrKazezuma I am a programmer interested in AI and also found his level of abstraction interesting. I'd better say his description of human levels of abstraction.

  • @jdoedoenet
    @jdoedoenet 7 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    This is just sooooo damn good - on so many levels. Thank you most sincerely, sir, for giving your gifts to the world..

    • @loremipsum7471
      @loremipsum7471 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The best part was Atlas' penis for all those girls to admire

    • @c.9231
      @c.9231 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      lorem ipsum - Grow up!

  • @shawnwilson1514
    @shawnwilson1514 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Radically awesome!!! I can't get enough of this guy!!! Wish I could wrap my head around all his wisdom and teachings!!!

  • @BikermanCoUk
    @BikermanCoUk 8 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Superb lecture sir - you restore my faith in my profession. I can't help feeling that, rather than push the freshers into PC 'how not to rape' courses, delivered by 3rd rate failed sociologists and lecturers pretending to understand the post-structural wittering of Lacan, Irigaray and the rest of the french bullshit merchants, it would be a much better idea to roll this out as part of an orientation course, along with a similar treatment of critical thinking.
    In fact right now - 2016 - this is more relevant and pressing than ever methinks.

    • @truthlivingetc88
      @truthlivingetc88 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      but Mr Academic Hotpants you are the failed thinker if you dismiss those dudes merely for not making sense. that they don`t make sense is a major part of the point. get a mind Einstein get a mind. preferably an open one.

    • @TheHornedOne81
      @TheHornedOne81 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      DMA Lewis
      Postmodernists don't make sense because their concepts are, in and of themselves, nonsensical.
      Yes, there are myriad ways of viewing almost anything. The issue comes when you begin saying that Any way of viewing something is just as relevant and just as valid as any other way, even if the way in question makes absolutely no sense.
      These people unironically mimic the "philosophers" from Atlas Shrugged. While you unironically parrot the commentary of the people that followed their "ideas". Telling someone that their failure to understand the incomlrehensible mental masturbation of some French Nihilist Philosopher shows that they are not intelligent, and then calling them closed-minded. Good job showing your elitism there, buddy.

    • @truthlivingetc88
      @truthlivingetc88 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      A lot of good points there horned one ! I`m not elitist. You are included.

  • @vallio9
    @vallio9 10 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Real gold in this lecture!

    • @prairiestargallery8299
      @prairiestargallery8299 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yes, I've listened to it before and loved it, just listened again and learned something more. Highly recommend it. This is true intelligence, not only in content but in the lucidity of the presentation.

  • @MoonPhantom
    @MoonPhantom 8 ปีที่แล้ว +202

    Man, to think it took some SJW drama to find this youtube channel.
    I just watched this entire thing and I was fascinated, there's a lot of things I recognise I wondered myself and then there's added to it, this is such clean cut honesty about how things just are and such. An interesting discussion going on here.
    Also I know it was only very short, but when he started to talk about depression by the ending. Yeah I relate.
    I suffered from depression and out of his four I fullfilled: No job, no friends and no relationship.
    Jokingly I have liked to say that fantasy books and movies was my choice of drugs lol. Which you know, in a sense is true, those things actually gave me the satisfaction nothing else at the time could.
    Thankfully, in complete opposit to real drugs, all this geekdomn, fantasy and books was restructive to me instead of destructive.
    It gave me purpose, it inspired me to write a book which had a lot of feelings in it, it ensured I kept playing music as when I hear a movie theme I really like, I just gotta learn how ti play it! It made me go out to cons and meet people whom would later become my friends, it gave me something to look forward to in terms of new movies I could go to and be... Social with people!
    I started to create cosplay, talk to all kinds of people having similar issues as me and acted like a open ear to many of them... It gave me purpose. And through this purpose and wishing to do even more, I fought myself up to get better.
    I have said this many times, to a lot of people. If you are to get better, you have to want to get better, you have to decide for yourself. "I want to get better."
    Because, if this decision is not made. There is nothing anyone can do, it all starts with yourself. You have to decide to get better yourself.
    All a psykiatrist can really do is being a help to selfhelp, only you can make you get better when it comes to a lot of mental ilness's.
    When people throw you a rope... You have to grab it, otherwise that rope is just useless. You have to decide... That you want to live, want to have a life.
    And yes, it's hard, it's absolutely so very hard. But just think of all those things you could go watch and exsperience! So many wonderful things out there to explore and discover.
    Now I study music therapy at UNI and of course, I have a heavy focus on how fictional stories and genneral communities centred around shared interests can be a way to deal with depression and various different mental illness's.
    I still dress up and go to all the geeky movies with my friends, I still read all the Harry Potter books one every single year. I do this because it makes me happy.
    I think I shall be adding this to the paper I am current writing, the thing about order and chaos.
    Now I think about it, fantasy reading to me... Was something orderly in a very chaotic life at the time. I could always count on the escape of a book not having to deal with not having friends in elementary school.
    So... a interest like this, and finding other with this shared interest can be a way to inject order into otherwise chaotic lives. I think I have made this argument before, I just havn't quite worded it like that.
    I'm gonna do it now though... Stealy stealy.

  • @freshmen6255
    @freshmen6255 7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I have heard a lot of very good speakers & lectures but this has to be 1 of the best & most important things I have ever heard. it all makes so much sense & i really thank you for the content. it's very important to me & I love these deeply grounded conversations

    • @NegativeBodhiImage
      @NegativeBodhiImage 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Have you seen Dr. Peterson's "Maps of Meaning" lecture series available on his YT channel? Amazing stuff and well worth the hours of investment in them.

    • @freshmen6255
      @freshmen6255 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      charlie wired I'll check it out thanks

  • @jessepaul1389
    @jessepaul1389 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    38:54 Cuts straight to the heart. Powerful

  • @hcp0scratch
    @hcp0scratch 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Live with a purpose...strive to be useful...THAT is how the dragon is slayed. JBP is fantastic!!!

    • @misssarahashplant31
      @misssarahashplant31 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you using slayed figuratively to indicate a theatrical triumph or as the now accepted alternative to slew?

    • @hcp0scratch
      @hcp0scratch 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@misssarahashplant31I have a simple answer for you... I got my grammar wrong and it should have been slew.

  • @petroniaskho
    @petroniaskho 7 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Amazing. This lecture just gave me a huge boost of inspiration.

    • @gregdurban1506
      @gregdurban1506 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      To much biblical stuff for me more on theosophy and the occult, may a bit to radical for him but I do enjoy some Of his lectures

    • @ereintsful
      @ereintsful 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you are at a level that the difference between "to" and "too" is too much for you to comprehend or learn, I doubt that you can understand the concepts J. Peterson is speaking of.

    • @adriansalsahot7367
      @adriansalsahot7367 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ereintsful calm down Ed it's called a typo

  • @miatomline
    @miatomline 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have been listening to Jordan constantly for about three weeks now ...to begin with I was amazed that he was able to articulate what I was feeling ..and I became obsessed with listening to him ...but soon I was finding I was listening to the same thing over and over and then today I listened to the same thing about order and chaos and suddenly I broke down because it suddenly hit me in a deep place...it got into my spirit and it has I think transformed me ……….but it took many hours of listening to him speak....what hit me was the part about how when you are doing something with meaning you are not aware of your self ….this I have experienced before ...but for many years I have suffered as a Christian with not knowing what God has for me...and then today I realised it was the thing that I loose myself awareness in.....thats what I should do....

  • @stellarguymk
    @stellarguymk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    200 years from now, if we haven't blown ourselves into oblivion, physically or metaphorically, history will look at JBP as just as if not more influential than Nietzsche, Freud, Dostoyevsky, or any of the other philosophers that JBP references regularly. God bless this man.

  • @dantweeton
    @dantweeton 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Notice where you are wrong instead of trying to prove where you are right - great piece of wisdom

  • @dmihaesi
    @dmihaesi 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you Prof.Peterson for sharing your wisdom with the WORLD.Kind regards from Oz

  • @DMO780
    @DMO780 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the greatest lectures I have ever seen. Changed so much for me.
    A revelation 🙏🏾

  • @codyr2318
    @codyr2318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Q+A session at the end is excellent. His perspective on depression strikes me as very accurate and helpful.

  • @tanyadreschel6040
    @tanyadreschel6040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you Dr Peterson, you have helped me so much in by far the most painful time in my life!

  • @NegativeBodhiImage
    @NegativeBodhiImage 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    How I would love Dr. Peterson to do a lecture series on Tarot imagery.. the tendency for most people is to think of the Tarot imagery as fortune telling devices, remnants of pure superstition… but in actuality its an entirely comprehensive and intricate esoteric world view.
    Im sure our fearless frog could lay their secrets bare :)

    • @Tweegrrl
      @Tweegrrl 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      charlie wired Indeed! The major arcana = archetypes

    • @macktheripper7454
      @macktheripper7454 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      charlie wired I don't think anyone looks at them as anything else but a psychological device / expression but I agree that would be a great idea

    • @iconc1402
      @iconc1402 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You could check out Michael Tsarion on youtube. He covers some broadly connected themes as Peterson but a little more woo. He has quite a indepth series on the tarot.

    • @katherine3486
      @katherine3486 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just as there were reasons not to touch the Ark Of The Covenant, there are mystical and eternal reasons we must not use chance and images, as they distort the Image in which we are created, and bring with it delusion and counterfeit.
      Please burn.

    • @ereintsful
      @ereintsful 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joseph Cambell

  • @sethbishop6890
    @sethbishop6890 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for putting this up for the world to benefit from. You saved me a lot of money by putting this on TH-cam and I can't tell you how helpful it is to me.

  • @adriel9215
    @adriel9215 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jordan speaks at a level which is unbound and truly awe inspiring. How can an individual be so beyond his time ,I am truly captivated by the level of his intellect and can hardly wait to one day become his predecessor and dream to one day combine all the great work he will leave behind for someone like me and others to pick up and follow this great man's legacy and bring the type of passion knowledge and wisdom to as many people as possible and leave this beautiful gift of a planet a better place than we found it .

  • @guicaria
    @guicaria 10 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    WOW!!!!! Life changing! The best lecture ever!!!!!

  • @susannec659
    @susannec659 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree this man is a genius. Listening to him even for a very short time is life-changing and life-saving.

  • @philipalexander8715
    @philipalexander8715 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Jordan Peterson is so prolific, its unreal.. you can hear people listening intently in the room..

  • @brianmugo9341
    @brianmugo9341 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've watched tonnes of Dr. Peterson's videos. I've never watched one as effective as this one. Speaking as a former atheist, his message about carrying a load heavy enough to justify my suffering transformed my life. I realized that my 5-year stint as an atheist was a way of expressing my resentment and bitterness about the primary familial ties I found myself inhabiting (mom, father, and step-father). I've also realized that that's all my soft ass was reacting to. It was just a mere amplified reaction to the chaos that whole situation brought. That sunk me deeper into questioning things that blew my exoskeleton off ... Anyway, long story.. I hope you all have a transcendent experience when you really understand and resonate with Dr. Peterson's teachings in your life. Like I have, and I am.

    • @MiguelArcangel12
      @MiguelArcangel12 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing your story. Am I presuming correctly from your spelling of tonnes that you're a Brit? It's funny how many atheists accuse believers of using religion as an emotional crutch. I think the same accusation could be made against those same atheists and their atheism. It sounds like there was definitely an emotional dimension to your stint as an atheist. Anyway, I have found Dr. Peterson's lectures as edifying as you have and am glad that he's around to help people.

  • @sashasaffron1630
    @sashasaffron1630 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm not religious but god bless you and your family Jordan. You are one of the most important humans of the 21st century HANDS DOWN.

  • @mikejames1641
    @mikejames1641 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i think i learned more watching this than all the schools i went to. love this guy

  • @billwilson4370
    @billwilson4370 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you dr.Peterson for putting all these videos out! Saved many of us!

  • @tasfa10
    @tasfa10 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Loved the lecture. I've one thing to say tho. He said that the people who we admire are those who carry a weight, not so big that it's unbearable and not so small that it's effortless, to them. Part of that is true, but on the other hand, in my recent years (certainly also thanks to some good amount of horrible tragedy I've been going through) I found myself looking up a lot to people who seemed to me like they chose not to carry much weight and live in contempt with what little they've got. One of them is Ajahn Brahm, a buddist monk whose dharma talks are online and others may be tv characters like Hurley from Lost or The Dude from The Big Lebowsky (yes, those two carry some weight, but its not what I mean). I'm not sure my heroes are those who amaze me by how much they can take but often those who realize sometimes you're better off letting go and letting be and having a good time. Thoughts on that?

  • @plasticmask1773
    @plasticmask1773 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dr.Peterson is very well read. He is the soup, the sustenance of all those books, all the ingredients, from all those passionate writers is in that soup.
    He, as an Empath has also received the pain and suffering of those writers.
    Thus one able to deliver an ageless message to a new generation, 7 billion strong!
    Thank you Dr. Peterson.

  • @dustinburnett9187
    @dustinburnett9187 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    He is a phenomenal teacher

  • @olastorruste4668
    @olastorruste4668 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "our traditions can become archaic and outdated and cruel and inhuman. And as a consequence they can pose a worse threat to us than chaos itself". Yes indeed. "people have evolved two modes for dealing with the unkown. one is voluntary approach and the other is panic-stricken paralysis and flight." bunch of nice quotes here, he makes the world very clear. Nice dude

  • @remmykauffer8252
    @remmykauffer8252 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mircea Eliade was one of the greatest authors on this subject. Glad to see this is becoming accessible for the general public.

  • @jonnyschaff7068
    @jonnyschaff7068 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know you’re never going to read this but you saved my life. I read both your books and my gf sent me transcripts of your lectures to study while I was incarcerated. Since applying what I’ve learned my life has turned around and I’ve become a million times more useful. Things have gone better than I could have dreamt up on my own. In work in my health and most importantly in my family life. My life has become infinitely more meaningful.Just thank you

  • @lizcuero9065
    @lizcuero9065 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Happiness is the grace from God"...Peterson, J.....Yes!

  • @TheVanessalala
    @TheVanessalala 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Immensely valuable - Thank you Dr. Peterson

  • @anonymouseve
    @anonymouseve 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every time I come back to this video, I always learn several new things. This man’s depth and insight is incredible. He’s certainly helped me make my life better.

  • @oslo8055
    @oslo8055 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was thirsty. Spiritually thirsty and then Jbp came along my way.. Smart people can help others! Ty Mr. Peterson. You are a good man. Keep up the good work and a deep ty from the bottom of my heart for sharing your work and your thoughts. Excuse my english. Love from QC Canada✌

  • @albingottfridsson3019
    @albingottfridsson3019 8 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Put some cell-shading and a couple of moving paintings on this and it could be a scene from Waking Life

    • @williamkoscielniak820
      @williamkoscielniak820 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And it would be the best damn scene in that movie!

    • @pineapplaplatypotato
      @pineapplaplatypotato 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Waking Life dreams about Jordan Peterson

    • @Rawdiswar
      @Rawdiswar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Waking Life 2: Order and Chaos

  • @DrissMEV
    @DrissMEV 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I let jordan go on auto play and observed by going over the same videos from time to time from others reposting its like listening it for the first time because im absorbing different bits or analyzing it differently maybe do to different mindsets or moods im in while im listening im still very impressed and humbled by Dr.Petersons understanding and ability to expain everything he talks about

  • @deborahferguson1163
    @deborahferguson1163 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wow is right. This is so important to understand, especially now that humans can do so much damage. Thank-you for individuals who connect to and follow their passion and tell the truth about an individual life being important... So good to hear. Now I have to pay more attention.... Thank-you

  • @OleBrr
    @OleBrr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is a perfect introduction for someone who is interested in learning about and listening to Peterson

  • @andyk608
    @andyk608 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "You can find all sorts of undergraduates who are perfectly willing to restructure the international economic system who cannot keep their room clean"
    Already laying the premise for his book

  • @jlfwolf
    @jlfwolf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God bless you Mr. Peterson. GOD...BLESS...YOU!!! From the bottom of my heart...THANK YOU!!!

  • @ilbetean
    @ilbetean 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's probably the best I've ever listened to. Thanks a lot, dr. Peterson.

  • @TheModernHermeticist
    @TheModernHermeticist 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This was excellent, thank you.

  • @Imthatguyx10
    @Imthatguyx10 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had to get through 5 or 6 ads to watch the whole thing. Would GLADLY have gotten through a dozen more ads! Can't believe this is free. THANK YOU FOR SHARING ONLINE DR. PETERSON!

  • @iwantpig
    @iwantpig 10 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    amazing. powerful and informative

  • @vasilysidorenko8821
    @vasilysidorenko8821 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So interesting I remember as a child loving the St. George painting my father made, it made me feel strong with a deep sense of power and boldness, even though I couldn't have articulated it like that, back then. With my disillusionment with religion at large and ideological quibbling I forgot that very real feeling I had seeing that image and reading those archaic stories. This lecture is almost full circle into the hidden subconscious.

  • @RightSideNews
    @RightSideNews 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nothing better to listen to as I clean my chaos ridden house with portals everywhere.

  • @jordanbpeterson-croatian3640
    @jordanbpeterson-croatian3640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is one of my favourite videos hands down ❤

  • @MecdiAn
    @MecdiAn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I wish I had a teacher like you in university.

  • @hazelbrownn
    @hazelbrownn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How fortunate we are to be able to access JP's lectures on TH-cam and for free !

  • @gustavsmidt9184
    @gustavsmidt9184 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In a couple of weeks I will be confirmated into the Swedish church. Yet, I have felt rather hopeless the past couple of weeks. I dont know why, but the motivation I thought I found in God does not seem to stand the test of time within me. I was watching this video now , and it made me realise what really motivates me to live. It's you Jordan. My perception of the highest possible good manifests itself through you. I'm not the kind of person who cries tears of sadness, but the day you pass away I will cry rivers of tears. But I will stand up straight with my shoulders back, look up and watch you take your rightful place in heaven. Then every single second of my life will be devoted to spreading your message, so that your spirit may live an eternal life through our words and actions. What you have done is bigger than the work of any god.
    Gustav

  • @JazzGuitar420
    @JazzGuitar420 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow. Great lecture. Very enlightening. I like the response to the question about mental illness at the end as well.

  • @zachgardner342
    @zachgardner342 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dr. Peterson captures our attention because he is a brilliant lecturer. He convinces us because of his incisive articulation. And he inspires us because of the depth of his insight.
    God bless this man, indeed one of the greatest philosophers of modernity and among my personal heroes.

  • @legarlowry
    @legarlowry 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So pleased to have found your channel thank you for making this content

  • @SoulgainTM
    @SoulgainTM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God damn it, with this amount of revelations, it's so hard not to go into "teary eyes" mode.
    The sense he outlines somewhat easily is hitting me continuously like a unstoppable truck.

  • @SmeagolTheBeagle
    @SmeagolTheBeagle 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    you are an unbelievable human being. you're like Alan Watts, Terrance McKenna and Christopher Hitchens all rolled up into one incredible master of everything

    • @macktheripper7454
      @macktheripper7454 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ezra Nixon *vomits* Alan watts was a charlatan

    • @Sean-dl8ym
      @Sean-dl8ym 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mike theJedi what a coincidence - so is Jordan Peterson!

    • @seanmoran6510
      @seanmoran6510 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ezra Nixon Christopher Hitchens had a stunning ability to use the English language and I followed him for a year or so then I stopped thinking he was the greatest .I really started to think deeply at Jordan’s level I soon realised Christopher Hitchens wasn’t as smart as I thought and I came away thinking he was an angry bitter man child and an ardent supporter of Leon Trotsky
      I found Christopher’s younger brother Peter far more interesting and deeper and more humble.
      Christopher loved to argue for arguments sake a trait that in my view is not satisfying.

    • @pineapplaplatypotato
      @pineapplaplatypotato 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We should clone him and have them both battle in the Colosseum

    • @asdivine
      @asdivine 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ezra Nixon also Manly P. Hall

  • @brakpantappet2
    @brakpantappet2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow!!! Dr Peterson excellent!!!

  • @SanguineUltima
    @SanguineUltima 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Absolutely incredible discourse; I felt my mind doing back flips trying to absorb it. I guess it's time for me to try to get a job; but I've been living in the cave for so long I am not sure how to come out.

  • @Leitefsj
    @Leitefsj 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And don't know how many times I watched this video. This man is outstanding!

  • @mrsteve555
    @mrsteve555 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    you mentioned peter pan at one point and i thought "bingo, thats it", i think depression is from being told you must grow up when the child inside does not want to.... at least for me i just want to plant fruit and play with the dog but apparently i must get a job and pay tax or some shit like that.

  • @minahan9315
    @minahan9315 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Saved and favorited like always. Thank you for an hour of free knowledge and wisdom

  • @damian.gamlath
    @damian.gamlath 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Useful tidbits of wisdom:
    34:10
    34:17
    36:36
    36:55
    40:30
    Q & A:
    44:55 - How do you take your ideas about suffering and apply them to treating mental illnesses?

    • @billhildebrand5053
      @billhildebrand5053 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      27kdon mike also has a section on the demoniac on Mark Series th-cam.com/video/qoGKJEENngc/w-d-xo.html

  • @Richard1979hush
    @Richard1979hush 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Jordan B Peterson
    You speak to my soul. I hear wisdom in you that i am not accustomed to hearing. Your words are like a honeycomb full of sweetness. i feel spiritually connected to you though we have never met. you have helped me look in the mirror to see beyond the veil of behavior which blocks the true vision of myself. Your words are challenging with the firmness of truth properly placed. im not a sycophant but you are a man that deserves praise. im not merely replying to this video but from the dozens upon dozens of videos that i have seen over the past few years.

  • @Enthos2
    @Enthos2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    Come for the anti sjw rhetoric, stay for the brilliant existentialist philosophy

    • @Lightnings
      @Lightnings 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good outcome I'd say.

  • @joeasoulsaddict8026
    @joeasoulsaddict8026 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can feel the gratitude behind this brilliance. Be grateful... for whatever you have.

  • @deluxelex9056
    @deluxelex9056 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very logical, enlightening, and easy to understand without the psychobabble

  • @nileshdewan-zr7px
    @nileshdewan-zr7px 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have been listening intellectuals on media platforms but , this man , today I have realised what actually intellect is...

  • @CelestialTrieye
    @CelestialTrieye 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    My cat watched this.
    It's a gold-hoarding, virgin-snatching dragon now.

    • @DocsDota
      @DocsDota 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That means you've gotta confront and slay it now =P

  • @danthemanpalacios4894
    @danthemanpalacios4894 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You've invigorated a passion to learn about many new subjects and work on myself in New ways. Thank you so much for putting this into the world

  • @pantaleonpizzaparte3338
    @pantaleonpizzaparte3338 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    this is such a phenomenal talk....

  • @adamwhite1920
    @adamwhite1920 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is so awesome for laying his comments over any track, especially soulful deep music. I've been picking random samples and soundbites and playing them over my music. It's weird because you never know what he's going to say next but it always fits perfectly and gives the song a dimension of power that brings me to tears.

  • @caergruant5574
    @caergruant5574 10 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    eye opening talk!

  • @SilvesterHumaj
    @SilvesterHumaj 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some of the most beautiful and carefully organized lectures I've heard in my 42 years on this blue dot suspended in a sunbeam.