This Was the Rebellion’s Greatest Fear
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- The Interdictor Class Star Destroyer was a huge headache for the Rebel Alliance, it's gravity well generators neutralized their greatest weapon the hyperdrive. We take a look at how interdiction ships could've fundamentally changed the course of the war, if employed early enough in large enough numbers, the empire could've won the war.
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This is why I love Thrawn so much. He is what the Empire would do if it had its head on straight. He's a breath of fresh air in a galaxy of Tarkins and Constantines.
Tie Defender, Lancer class frigate and Interdictor cruiser have a common point
One of them could have change the civil war. Imagine if those three were put into service instead of the Death Star
They have another common point: they were loved by Thrawn, that alone says a lot.
Once again, Palpatine's obsession with fear, intimidation and raw power backfiring on him without him ever realizing the problem. 😕
A Sith really should be kept away from ANY position of governance.
@@MrDibara Agreed, up to a certain point.
I actually think sith could do well in certain leadership positions, it’s just that palpatine and the sith he created all shared the same core weaknesses and ideals.
Basically, the sith without palpatine’s ego, racism, and straight up mental illness would probably perform well enough.
But alas, we’ve seen little of that in Disney canon; it’s all been sidious and his apprentices.
I even think dooku could have been a great sith leader if he’d learned from literally any other sith, for example. Maybe he wouldn’t have even ended up racist.
The sad truth is that exactly the same traits that made palpatine such an overpowered sith, his insanity and complete lack of empathy of any sort, also made him a horrible leader.
Looking at it from that point of view, perhaps you’re 100% right, and the sith just don’t belong in any leadership positions, but I don’t think so. I think the more ancient sith in particular could have done pretty well, though perhaps without a great moral compass exactly.
At least, I don’t think most sith would be so.. palpatine about everything.
@@5stargrim If Darth Malgus had been in Palpatine's position, the Empire would have arguably never fallen.
@@Spectacular_Insanityyes, but then it would be war without end. Malgus could not live without war practically.
Allen: *talks about the Interdictor class Imperial ship*
Everyone: "He shaved his beard!"
I couldn’t believe my eyes
Thought to myself: is that really Allen?
Yeah, I'm part of "everyone" here. He's lost that rogueish scruffyness and looks so... smooth! It's not bad, just different.
We can no longer claim he is a scruffy-looking nerf herder.
The dolphins got him!
I didn't notice until I saw this comment.
The WTF of seeing shaved Allen
He was recently captured
It’s a Dolphin humiliation ritual. I know this because I’ve studied their culture
@@ofthecaribbeani thought it was because he was being mistaken as a Jedi
Lo Key thought this was an older Vid 😅
+1
It is incredibly telling that Revan, a gifted tactician in his own right who saved the old republic from the mandolorians, and the proceded to bring it to its knees as a sith, dicided to make interdictors the mainstay of his fleet.
Interdictors could also be used to do precise hyperspace jumps(Thrawn's Pincer), imagine if the empire could have pulled hundreds of ISDs out of hyperspace very precisely in any battle. The Rebellion would have stood no chance.
Even Thrawn wouldn't jump in hundreds of ISDs, or any ship really, for a battle. Even the Legends New Republic didn't have the numbers at it's height to call for that level of 'heavy' capital ship call in by the Remnant (Whom did have plenty of ISD's still under command. Despite a fair number of Isaard's humiliating defeats before even Daahla came into brief command.)
A terrifying concept would be to retrofit as a ISD as a Interdictor or disguise a Interdictor as a ISD.
Then the Rebels wouldn't know which ship to target, unless they could get a instrument reading on where the gravity well was coming from, and with sensor jamming and the chaos of battle that may be difficult.
And it also would mean that Rebel forces couldn't tell that a ISD was in fact a Interdictor until it was too late.
Losing the entire ground forces and base building facilities of a ISD might free up enough space just by itself for the generators, if not theres a lot of internal space to be cannibalised for the space.
Yeah if they could disguise those big spheres somehow it could be a nightmare. Although I imagine the second the gravity well turns on the ship would be detected as well.
wouldn't the gravity wells pull on the isd facade causing the ship to implode?
I think the Eclipse SSD in the Dark Empire comic series had them. I would have to check my old tech books.
@@GenerationTech The power requirements alone would give them away. There's certain signatures that these ships give off because of how damaging the interdiction field effect would have to be on hyper space. I cant remember which game utilized them but everyone would instantly know the second they were pulled from hyperspace but also even if you were on a planet it would be readily apparent its an interdiction cruiser no matter what it looked like. These vessels to act as gravity wells so detecting the gravity of the ship would be a beacon for lightyears around (if you had a good enough astromech)
Sure glad you didn't work for the Empire! The rebels would have crushed from the very beginning.😂
In the game "Empire at War" the Interdictor cruiser is in every fleet I have. There is nothing more frustating than being invaded by a Rebellion or Consortium fleet, getting finally the upperhand and them fleeing through Hyperspace shortly before you can destroy the last biggest most costly ship of them. Like a Lucrehulk, which is a huge financial setback for them.
That ship combined with Aquitens light cruisers, Raider corvettes, TIE Defenders ,and maybe a Quazar carrier and/or even a single Star Destroyer as a true mobile power projection force would be really effective.
*Laughs in B-Wings, X-Wings, Mon Cal Cruisers and Corellian Corvettes*
@@HolyknightVader999 Laughs in TIE Hunters, TIE Avengers, Victory-Class, and Tectors
@@VenomSeeker None of those save for the TIE Hunter are a match for Mon Cals and B-Wings. You're better off with a dozen ISDs
@@HolyknightVader999B-wings were very rare, and Mon Cal Cruisers were also somewhat hard to come across until the Rebels got a large... I think they had a ship building company after the empire fell, because I don't think they could actually build the ships after Mon Cala fell... So, yeah
@@Dire_Pack Same thing with TIE Defenders, Interdictor cruisers, Tecton-class cruisers, and the like. The Empire never mass produced them because they were too costly and couldn't project power over a large area.
Babyfaced Alan shocked me. Also it feels weird being the first one here
Yes, and for the price of one Death Star, they could have had hundreds... if not thousands... of these Interdictor destroyers. And having more of these in Thrawn's hands would have decimated the rebels. This is one of the strengths of the Rebellion... and if that could be properly countered, there would be no quick escapes into hyperspace for them.
I don't think it is any secret that the composition of the Imperial fleet as portrayed in the films and novels makes little tactical sense as a peace keeping force. Smaller fleets based around the combination of an interdictor and a carrier class vessel with appropriate support ships would have made a lot more sense when combatting a rebellion, especially when you include hyperdrive and shield equipped fighter craft which are able to work more indipendantly and enable far more tactical flexibility.
It makes perfect sense when you consider who developed it. A Sith Lord with a military led by leaders either honed in the last war or people who had no qualms reenacting battles from the last war on dissenting civilians.
You aren't going to get a rational peacekeeping force from people like that
@@nicholashodges201 So, like Russian Generals refighting WW2 on the plains of Ukraine?
@@krisgonynor689*OUCH.* _Not untrue, though._
There's endless irony to the Imperial Navy: It was clearly designed to take on another fleet like the GAR did against the CIS... While being used to systematically eradicate any possibility of an enemy fleet like the CIS navy ever existing
That dolphin forgot to put its disguise on fully...
Therapist: "Shaved Allen isn't real. He can't hurt you."
Shaved Allen: 0:02
😂
This is evil Allen!
Thst isn’t Allen, that is his evil clone Alleeen… lol
If I were a Imperial admiral I would definitely use a Interdictor. These ships are useful
Nice shave, bro. Agreed: the Imperial naval doctrine was pathetic for actually maintaining a policing presence. Sure, while some wandering fleets, such as the 7th, would have been useful for decimating larger external military threats, the Interdictors and Arquitens ships, alongside widespread improved fighters, would have quashed the rebellion much easier.
The Interdictor has been my favorite since using it relentlessly in Star Wars: Rebellion on PC in the late 1990's.
This ship, was extremely useful in Empire At War, and correctly, a huge headache when I played Rebels or Zann. I mostly used it at chokepoints on the star map where i'd position my defense fleet.
If I ran the Empire, it would be far less corupt and tyrannical.
You're not a Sith Lord. Power, for the sake of power...always brings down tyrants. Napoleon, Hitler etc. All invaded Russia in the winter. Who does that? Tyrants do. They think they know it all. Palpatine is exactly like them. Grand Moff Tarkin as well.
The biggest threat to the rebels was Allen's beard.
shaved allen was something I didnt expect to see today
Have you ever done a video on Thrawn's most misunderstood moment, the one where he forces Morad to stay on an exploding speeder bike?
This is as far as I can tell the most sited moment as Thrawn acting out of character or like a cartoon villain for no reason. I think the confusion comes from the idea that the workers of the factory were imperial assets and thrawn doesn't kill his own people. However the truth of the matter is thrawn could see this was a deliberate act of sabotage and it was costing him and the empire troops, something he cares deeply about as he is always shown trying to nurture those under his command into more useful people. Effectively making this a clear act of aggression and rebellion and he saw it for what it was. And thrawn has no qualms in legends or canon with dispensing death to his enemies especially to make an example to others. It's ruthlessly efficien
Shaved Allen looks weird
Hell yes the Interdictor is a fantastic Ship. Back in the Empire at War days, it's how I kept brothers space force from escaping a loosing battle to re-group later.
Interdictors saving the Empire depends exclusively on how quickly the empire could take out the rebellion.
There's a very small window between these getting deployed and the rebellion developing a counter measure.
Like dropping an anti-interdictor task force near it's expected location right after the main force engages
Still annoyed that the new trilogy felt the need to create hyperspace tracking rather than just using an interdictor. In particular since I'm convinced it was a direct result of their initial rejection of Legends more than anything else.
Yeah I originally didn’t like this idea. But I learned more about quantum computing and it’s potential, I think it’s not as stupid as we first thought.
@@GenerationTech it should have been explored better.
Chaincodes. Nobody should be able to hide.
BoSS and transponders. No ship should be able to hide.
Holonet. Near instant data access.
The hyperspace tracking in the Sequels was really not much different from any of the existing technology.
From a plot perspective, how else can they get the fleeing protagonists to stand and face the pursuing antagonists? That's the story they wanted to tell.
@@orokusaki1243 but the problem is hyperspace tracking felt like an afterthought. It’s like they sat in their little meeting and said I want a big space chase that takes up half of the movie but how do we do that? Someone goes f**k it, lets just say they track it through hyperspace and come up with a reason later in some book or something.
@@Squiddy-go1du Seemed more like it was just a different presentation of what the Bureau of Ships and Standards(BoSS) and transponder codes already did.
That entire segment was a heist flick.
Good video, it reminded me of something interesting. The rebellion was rescued by Mandalorians in the battle of Atalon, since thrawn is leading the shadow council it explains the concern shared by the whole council and how deep a thorn in their side the Mandalorians would be if united.
The days leading up to the Battle of Scarif also had another effect on the Rebel Alliance--Saw Guerra and many of his partisans were killed, the Death Star threat became clear, and Admiral Radis got martyred. These three things in isolation may not have been enough to unit the Rebels, but all three happening so quickly had the effect of purging the rot, rallying a cause, and providing a leadership example all at once.
Hopefully, Allen will grow a British gentleman mustache in the future.
What about an Austrian “gentlemen” moustache?
I think it was not the technology but the leadership that really held the Empire back. The Tarkin doctrine seemed to be to try to enhance loyalty through terror and cultivated that mentality in their officer core. They had a massive star fleet and still never had enough hulls to cover all their territory. For the resources they needed to create one ISD they could have built several light cruisers. In most places that was more than enough to maintain control. Let's not even mention the massive amount of resources poured into the two Death Stars. The Interdictor Class Star Destroyer was another tool they had at their disposal but most of their commanders did not have the training or mentality to utilize it properly.
Alan where’d the beard go?
Eve online interdictors are one of the most important ships in a fleet. Also ships have a warp scrambler to keep ships from entering hyperspace/warp.
The amount of knowledge and research that’s goes into these videos is not unnoticed.
So what the Empire needed at the moment are the Interdictors and the TIE-Defenders. And if Palpatine still wanted a mobile fortress of his own while assuming the role as a nomadic ruler who always traveled around his domain regularly, a personal massive fleet of various types of Imperial warships of his own will sufficed. In other words, do what King Louis XI did once he took the throne and travel around France regularly. And look at how good the result was in the end. The French government took a major step in centralization, the barons and the dukes who thought of opposing the King's policy of centralization have seen the Duke of Burgundy being made an example of at the Battle of Nancy, the merchants are on the rise in the society to fomr the middle class and Burgundy was officially annexed as part of France and administered directly by the French crown.
Riots dealt with riot shields when stun blasters exists....
Gatling/repeater stun cannon? I don't see why they couldn't make such a thing for non-lethal crowd suppression.
Perhaps a stun ring like 5km diameter? Would've loved to see the Death Star fire stun rings!
Though, for that "Star Wars Feel" (WW2, Samurai, Westerns)..apparently shields > stun weapons
In Canon the Interdictor would have turned the favor against the Rebels without a shadow of a doubt. In Legends however where it was used a little bit more widespread, the Rebel Alliance was for all intents and purposes far better organized than their Canon counterparts. They were capable of dealing with the threat, and depending on the source actively destroyed the Interdictors before they committed to deploying en masse during the Civil War.
Always love it when I play Star Wars Rebellion/Supremacy. My Endgame Fleets usually have 2 of those 10 Star Destroyers 20 Lancers, a Super Star Destroyer and a whole lot of Tie-Defenders. Perfection comes when Thrawn gets to be force sensitive too :3
This is so much truth. I played the Star Wars: Rebellion fleet game from the 90's and i quickly learned an Interdictor in every fleet made short work of the game.
According to one of the canon books, there were a few interdictors at the battle of Endor as well.
“We only need to keep them from escaping..”
Woah like the look Allen!
I always loved them and in Empire at War game I placed them almost in all fleets at almost all planets. Those things are beatiful and useful. Also I imagine making something like Eclipse SSD into Interdictor would be cool too.
Allen is the Thrawn of Star Wars TH-camrs.
honestly I feel like it might be interesting to do a deep dive into a hypothetical "What if the Rebel Alliance factions fell apart after the Empire was defeated" we see this sort of thing from time to time with groups like Mujahadeen, and some of the post-colonial African independence movements. The rebel faction leaders try to make power moves without a unifying threat.
The "Interdictor" is most definitely a defense ship, and a good one at that. So of course, when Constantine decided to use his Interdictor offensively..., results to show that more often than not, the best defense is not an offense.
Man those scenes from Andor are truly amazing!!
I used to roleplay in a Star Wars community, a factions roleplay. And I have to tell you, we developed so many doctrines around interdictors, obviously to prevent the enemy from retreating, but think:
With a strong enough interdiction system you can completely control a hyperlane, blocking an entire region's traffic. You could concentrate most of your forces in this chokepoint, knowing your back is fully safe.
After the fall of the empire I belonged to our Hutt rivals, me and some survivors made a safehaven in a small region around Kashyyyk. We set up interdictors right behind asteroid fields, so any ship that emerged from hyperspace would simply crush into the asteroids. We held out for about a month in a cold war with the hutts, with me and their lead scientist(and general ofc) constantly negating each other's progress as they tried to find a way around my defences. They did eventually, but it was fun.
Another great job. Thank you for your time and efforts! It’s awesome to hear other people’s thoughts on Star Wars. As a kid, I always wanted to know more about the universe.
False, the Emperor not playing around with Luke and Vader would've saved the Empire. Because if he was able to focus his Battle Meditation on the rebels, the Empire would've won on Endor, and every single rebel victory would've been for nothing.
Yep. The Emperor was more hell bent on Luke than anything else happening at Endor. Luke was 100% right when he told the Emperor that his arrogance would be his undoing.
@@zombieshoot4318 Exactly. Now imagine the Emperor just has Luke locked away in a prison cell until the battle was over and the Empire had won thanks to Palpatine focusing his Battle Meditation against the enemy. Then Palpatine could negotiate with Luke better by saying that if he joins the Empire and the Sith, his friends would be spared.
They shouldn’t have stopped the production of this ship it’s so op
This is even true of many military bureaucracies in the real world. Senior leaders are often resistant or disdainful of new unorthodox tactics, weapons, equipment, or troops who are not part of the "traditional" forces. This is usually due to arrogance, or trying to "protect" the funding/infrastructure of their chosen area of expertise (i.e. infantry, armor, fleets). It often takes daring front line officers and soldiers/sailors/airmen who see the potential tactical value of these new weapons or tactics and use them in successful missions. Eventually this captures the attention of enough senior leaders that they start supporting the new weapons or tactics until they are slowly accepted as a part of the "traditional" forces.
Many many moons ago - in the mid 1990s - my friends and I played a Star Wars RPG (the old West End Games version). We captured one of the 418 Imobilizer Cruisers, and it became the base of most of our operations. It was often used to facilitate raids on Imperial convoys. We decided that we had taken part in the Battle of Yavin - specifically, we were why the Death Star had come out of hyperspace on the far side of the gas giant, giving the rest of the Rebel Alliance time to scramble their fighters. The ship was badly damaged, and had to withdraw, but had played its part. In my mind, that's still part of the story. Good memories. Play games around the table with friends, people. It is good for you!
Admiral Thrawn was basically the Admiral Yamamoto of Star Wars, a master in his field, a man that knew his opponent and just generally intelligent and cunning, but ignored by those in more powerful positions
Constantine charging his Interdictor into the front lines was a gigantic head slap moment and one contrived reason for the survival of the rebels.
Alan is so busy with making content that he hired a young intern sound-alike!
The empire had thousands of smaller interdictor cruisers and at least a few hundred heavier start destroyer classed ones. The problem wasn’t just poor management. It was how the rebels conducted them selves. Their were tens of billions of capable officers in the galactic empire. Possible hundreds of billions if not trillions. Their officers and captains and admirals for a reason
Gen. Tech looking clean shaven 😎
😱 AAAAH! BABY FACE ALLEN!! 😱 Oh, sorry, it just caught me off guard there LOL 😜🤣
Whoa! WHO'S that good looking young man?
In an alternative universe Luke would be flying x wings and probably would have met Vader his father as part of the empire
The Interdictor has always been my favorite one from when I read it being used in the books by Thrawn, not only to prevent opponents from fleeting, but also pulling his own ships out of hyperspace exactly where he wanted them with pinpoint accuracy.
And I agree, if used properly, it is an absolutely terrifying weapon because it takes away your ability to escape, or can just yank you out of hyperspace if they know your route.
Tarkin doctrine is the opposite of the saying "if you cant afford to lose it, dont use it" in the way that theyre basically saying "if you cant afford to lose it, waste more recources into not losing it"
Nooooo! Not the article. Totally agree with that. Even wondered why that couldn't have been used in The Last Jedi, or even a XX23 S-thread tracer, instead of the nonsense we got. But that's not my problem with this article. My negative response is reserved for the absence of the beard!
What happened?! It was glorious! And now it's gone! I came for the content, but stayed for the beard! I can't even look at our man Allen now! It's not right! I'm in mourning! Great content, as always, but you need to restore balance to the Force - bring back the beard!
The Interdictors had major problems though -the interdiction field covered a small area - we see just taking one down in an area allowed Ezra to escape the entire blockade. Several were required to cover even one hyperspace route. The interdiction field required the ship to stay mostly still. Shifting the interdiction field required the ship to shut it off, reorient, and project it somewhere else.
The fact the ship was very vulnerable meant it was vulnerable to fast ships and strike craft. It had to stay completely still, so the Rebels could simply skim through the escorting ships and fighters and make attack runs on it to drive it off or disable it even if it was beyond the primary fleet. IF it had to stay so far back to be impossible to hit it couldn't broadcast the interdiction field wide enough to cover the hyperspace routes.
In Legends (not sure how it compares to canon) an Interdictor-418 cost as much as an Imperial class Star Destroyer to manufacture. That's not the IStar Destroyer variant even. Knowing you had a battle to block off hyperspace routes in advance was often tricky for the Imperial Navy, and having one sit and keep it's interdiction fields up for an extended period if covering known hyperspace routes was tricky.
In the 'Tarkin' novel, the first use of the 418 in the field is a catastrophe, destroying or disabling numerous ships while trying to stop a single Rebel ship, which it doesn't even catch at all (with Tarkin present, which likely colored him significantly agaisnt the class).
While also purely Legends (and thus not canon), an Interdictor-class Star Destroyer (the Black Asp) is forced to r un by a single squadron of X-Wings which inflict enough damage on it to render it vulnerable - even with a squadron of TIE Interceptors screening it (Rogue Squadron novel by Michael Stackpole). Rogue Squadron at the point was made up (other than Wedge) mostly of rookie pilots right out of training - even for the elite pilots, it was their first combat mission on deployment and in a battle they were caught by total surprise by (the Black Asp pulled them randomly out of hyperspace).
While not canon, there's nothing really to indicate that the 'canon' variant of the Interdictor was any more solid than the legends if a quick attack run by a single squadron of fighters renders it vulnerable to destruction.
Gotta say, was NOT ready for beardless mullet Allen today.
my party in Star Wars: Age of Rebellion hijacked one of those once. Good times.
.... oh my gods I had a sheer moment of "who are you?!?!' xD facial blindness at it's best... the man cleans up and I didn't recognized him,
How did you simultaneously gain and lose 10 years after a shave. Looks good
Battle of Atollon is one of my favourites.
Where the beard gooo!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOO. You look so weird without a beard, Its like the first time i saw my dad without a beard. Pure shock.
The Imperial military reminds me of how the admiralty in many real world fleets felt about aircraft carriers vs battleships.
Yeah in ww2 most of the world was still playing the bigger battleship game while the US and japan were going towards carriers.
Yes! Thank you! As anyone who’s played X-wing or Alliance knows, the Interdictor is a royal pita. I think it’s Balance of Power where an Interdictor is basically trolling you the entire campaign.
I can't believe he didn't mention the one thing that made the ISD standout from other Gravity Well ships.
Damn thing came equipped with a advanced ECM system that made torpedo's completely useless to it.
Making it's only weakness be ship classes equal or superior to it, AKA ships the rebels had in short supply.
I think the Interdictor would certainly have led to a lot of devastating wins against the rebellion, but a super-weapon like this would eventually get written around in order to keep the good guys winning. But, it would also be realistic anyway for the rebels to find some specific solution for dealing with the interdictors. Maybe some kind of missile or mine that takes advantage of the super-dense gravity well that an interdictor generates, then uses that against it somehow. Think of radar. There are now anti-radar missiles that home in on the radar from its emissions. The very nature of a radar (used for detection) used against itself (as a bright target for a missile).
There is one problem with this theory, all capital ships are equipped with at least one Interdiction generator. They usually project the interdiction field over a planet, which is why you have to fly past the ships to jump into hyperspace when running a blockade. If there are two star destroyers in orbit, it would be very difficult, and only the best pilots could have a chance at getting past them.
Allen shaving...dam
Its odd, in the pre-Disney EU, Interdictor were common sauce throughout the civil war. Now with this in perspective it gives thoughts how the Empire could've defeated the Rebels at the Battle of Scariff or Battle of Hoth.
Having grown up with Star Wars, read all the legends books and comics as a kid and turned away from the prequel and sequel trilogies, the Imperial fleet tactics have always bothered me when you have ships like this that exists. Because they make too damn sense to not have in any fleet engagement. A ship like this would be mass-produced and attached to every flotilla because only THEN does the Tie Fighter with its limited sublight capacity make sense and the size and armament of regular ISDs make sense. It's a deliberate choice by the creators because its not what the stories were for at the time, like why generals command fleets on par with admirals always bothered me. And it all comes down to writers and plot. Its so much harder to write a story of a black and white victory over evil if the opposing force is too powerful and well regimented because IRL an antagonistic, well-equipped, and well-armed force is so much harder to overcome, but it just makes your story sweeter. SW has been cartoonish in that regard, like in Last Jedi with the last order chasing after the Resistance fleet. There's always some glaring thing. Thrawn is the only exception and breath of fresh air because we have an antagonist military commander that understands his order of battle, it's gaps and limitations, because he's competent, and needs to be like most commanders in modern militaries. That of course can't be said about all modern militaries with political appointments that are excess in real life and in within the Star Wars universe. I guess it frustrates me because this was a writer/creator decision more than something the animated or live action series should necessarily be rationalizing. But I understand why they need to. Awesome video because I love the ship.
Man, no matter how many times I watch this dude - I am always surprised by his distaste for the Empire
this video got me to re-watch star wars rebels
Hell yes this type of ship could have made the empire victorious
Think of inperial fleets, supported by interdictors with squadrons of tie defenders
Hey Allen have you ever looked into the mentality behind Tarkin and his doctrines. There’s actually a fairly decent internal logic for why he did what he did.
Makes you wonder, if Thrawn was a Repuplic commander how fundamentally had it changed Star Wars in various points of the story.
Love the content, however…immobilizer 418 was a heavy cruiser based off of the Vindicator (not a SD) the 20 quad laser cannons relatively light armor and shielding is true. The Dominator was an ISD based and sized interdictor, with turbo lasers, a stronger fighter compliment and some laser cannons. Even fewer dominators were around than immobilizers.
they could have at least add gravity well generators to death stars and super star destroyers
I think the main reason the empire lost was simply because they were made to lose via movies/shows and comics. How does a empire that controls half the galaxy lose to a small rebellion. If we’re looking at this as a realistic stand point then the empire would’ve remained the true dominant power. A lot of people can also say that the stormtroopers for example had bad aim and couldn’t hit anything, well if they were made to hit everyone then films and such would only last like 2 minutes lol. For the empire!
I'm going to pretend that Allen's magnificent beard still exists
Major task forces would have access to interdictors death squadron had 4 and used them at endor the 7th fleet as well and some other task forces as well at most 2 would be deployed in any major task force
Late war the Empire was building ISD 1's with gravity well generators. Too little too late. Had half the firepower of the ISD 1's, shields and fighter complement was still the same, and they got rid of there ground armor forces to make room for the GWG's.
Officers like Admiral Konstantine, are unfortunately the standard mentality, rank, & file of most officers I served under in my days in the U.S. Navy. Very rarely did you get the chance to have an officer like Admiral Thrawn, who wasn’t arrogant, but who respected his subordinates, & had the foresight to understand the importance of the mission.
Taking away an enemy's ability to retreat or otherwise limit his mobility is a vastly more powerful weapon than the ability to blow up one planet at a time with a slow (and it turns out highly vulnerable) battlestation. If the Emperor was more like Thrawn and less like Tarken the rebellion wouldn't have stood much of a chance.
I disagree - the intedictors didnt damage the drives of the vessels they pulled out of hyperspace - those ships were using the pre programmed safety measures built INTO the drives - basically the interdictor was tricking the attacked vessel into pulling out from hyperspace via its own safety measures (namely by projecting the mass shadow which in a way tricked the enemy sensors to think the ship was on a collision course with an object say like planet - which was engaging the emergency stop measures on the said vessel) - which means rebels could just modify their ships in a way to turn those safeties off and still run away even with interditctors being active.
The "stun" effect we saw was not from the gravity wells themselves but an effect of the emergency stop employed by the ships themselves. bascially that emergency stop was cutting power to most systems to avoid overloads and catastrophic damage to drives and power systems - but thats it. Basically it was similiat to pulling the plugs.
Basically its software issue not hardware.
A modified vessel could easly have a cut off switch to that functionality so the ship entered and stayed in hyperspace no matter what thus making interdictors useless as they in fact exploited the safety measures built into navigational computers.
If we only knew how much it took to make the Death Star(s).
I'm a Rebel through and through, however, saving the Republic from the Empire would have been harder in the first place if the cost, materiel, and manpower needed to build the Death Star(s), were more well known.
I personally think figuring it out would be worth the effort.
More Venators for the Rebels, and what not.
The dolphins got Allen and installed a Allen simulacrum. Didn't fool us!
I wish they would show more of the Imperial Class Interdictor Star Destroyers on screen. I see it on cgames and books but they are more armed than an Immobilizer Class.
Interdictor or the Immobilizer 418 Cruisers including the Interdictor class Star Destroyer... I use these vessels on my Imperial fleets in Star Wars Empire at War Forces of Corruption.
Constantine was an idiot driven by power that destroyed a valuable ship. As an Imperial High Admiral in a sense during and after the Galactic Civil War, I would've vouched for a steedy supply of Interdictors from Sienar Fleet Systems and used them efficiently.
To be fair, Thrawn ORDERED Konstine back into formation, but he flat-out refused a (lawful) order from his superior and payed for it.
Hmm... Thhere comes me a thought: Think of an Imperial Class Star Destroyer, but without a Fighter Hangar Section.
Instead it would have two Reactors, changed Armament AND Interdictor Generators!
Means: One Reactor for the Weapons, which would be nearly completly Anti Fighter with some Ion Guns, and the second would be only for the Interdictor Field Generators.
A ISD with the Firepower of several Lancer Fregates could hold off any Enemy Fighter Squadron and shoot down even Torpedos, while it would prevent the Rebels from fleeing into hyperspace.
One or two normal ISDs or a small support fleet of smaller vessels could give support fire against bigger ships and take them down.
It would fit into the Tarkin Doctrine "bigger is better and have more Dakka" and it would be a nut, that the rebellion would have problems to crack... at least for some time.
I can't watch this channel anymore I was here for the beard
Soviet tacticians had a phrase, “we never reinforce failure.” The empire seems to follow the Soviet and Nazi model of top down leadership, where lower ranking officers and NCOs are discouraged from independent thought. This is why Thrawn surpasses the established Imperial leadership. He listens to subordinates and incorporates ideas or technologies that are not issued from the top echelons, rather they are novel approaches adapted from experience against his enemies.
If the empire kept producing and modernizing the Venator Class to hold newer Imperial designed starfighters, pushed for budget increases in the Tie Defender series, and produced the Interdictor in large scale, the Galactic Civil War would not have been possible.
A piece of information that you have incorrect is that the "Interdictor" used by the Republic and then the Revenite sith, did not have gravity well generators. The ship's size and reactor output when combined with it's weaponry wouldn't be enough to create a proper interdiction field. They were named as a class of ship due to their original role as a traditional interdiction type role. Blockading, heavy intercepting with a fighter compliment to harass ships until it was in range. Compared to the heavier ships (Non Hammerheads) of the Republic fleet at the time, they were fast enough and well armed and armored/shielded enough to be the multi role cruiser (by definition of it's day) compared to slower heavy cruisers and lighter armed and armored but faster frigates such the hammerhead. It's weapon placements allowed for wider arcs and interlocking fields of fire that allowed it to Interdict (Block) enemy forces in a way other's couldn't. As most ships that were faster were both smaller and/or lightly armed/primarily armed with forward facing heavy weapons (IE: Going back to the hammerhead light cruiser/heavy frigate.)