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I sold my 2015 Ram 1500 for a 2021 Outback Limited. I opted for the 2.5L engine because I found the turbo uneven in its acceleration. I also live at sea level and the handful of times a year I go snowboarding I will deal with the power loss at elevation. Quiet, smooth and nicely appointed...I am very happy. Great review and love it's with the whole family. Where is the dog?
I got a 2018 outback with the 2.5 4 cylinder and I gotta tell you that it's a wonderful engine with plenty of power for everything and gets amazing fuel economy, i got a video on my channel where my outback was doing 120mph effortlessly, the outback comes with great offroad chops with 8.7 inches of ground clearance(more then some dedicated offroad trucks) with plenty of space for passengers and cargo, especially with that heavy duty roof rack and best of all it gets over 30mpg!! Not to mention all the great eyesight safety features! My favorite being the adaptive cruise control!! My 2 young daughters and myself love to go camping and sleeping in the outback! Folding the rear seats gives you a big flat surface big enough for me and daughters to sleep very comfortably
@@SubieandFriends that is awesome! How long did it take for the engine to break in and get really good mpg? I am not a lead foot by any means but I'm not getting advertised. I'm only 600miles in so I expect it to improve but just curious how long. Also...did you get a cargo box and if so what kind?
@@perseverance86 actually I got my 2018 outback used with 68k miles so not really sure on the break in period, I also dont get the best mileage when I drive around town (around 16-19mpg) but I attribute that to my heavy foot, but when I go on roadtrips on the fwy I average about 30-34mpg doing 75mph, which is good enough for me! I dont have a roof cargo box but I also would love to get me one.
Life after RAM truck, I bet Peter appreciates Subaru fuel economy and much easier to park. Tighter turning radius. Just right height for in and out. We’ve had multiple Suubies, excellent for gravel road in snow country. U-R-A-BUS backwards.
@@Skunked68 you nailed it. Just went on a 1400 mile trip touring colleges with my son. Super comfortable, good fuel and sure footed in bad weather. Just a complete home run! So happy with my purchase ☺️
Good old Highway 18. Good memories of going up there just to cruise and toss my cars around. Everywhere you look up there you see a Subaru, you’re officially mountain folk.
I bought my first Subaru six months ago, an Ascent with the same engine and CVT as in the Outback tested here. I didn’t know what to expect, given the number of complaints I’ve read about that engine and transmission. Turns out I like it quite a bit. Being a relatively normal driver (only went to Skip Barber Racing School twice and later raced an ASA car) I spend near-zero time at WOT on public streets, roads, and highways. It’s a very nice powertrain, no complaints here at all. The rest of the vehicle is pretty good as well.
Nice work Micah and spouse! I just loved the natural banter, comic relief, affection between you all and of course the actual car review. Congratulations Muzio Family!
It is my first car in Australia. I bought a used OB 2021 Gen 6, 2.5L. Love the way it looks. Love its AWD. It allows me to drive with confidence in a bad weather.
I couldn't assess the merits of this video without the mention of the Missus, she was a real bonus to your video; what a sweetie and cutie. The 4K image quality was really sharp, it made the Outback really shine. Good job. Thanks
I got the 5th gen 2.5. You get used to it trust me, I just let the 4wd take control and use inertia for the most mpgs. I like to know that I got just enough torque to get me out of trouble in traffic. The ride quality and quiet cabin are great. Not the fastest I agree but plenty for a family hauler and commuter. 14:22 is a 4th gen Outback.
Great review! I never had a clue on how to use the pin code thing, also, the Onyx edition is based on the premium trim (which is why it doesn't have memory seats). It costs more than the limited because it comes with 2.4t standard (along with special accents and seats) instead of the 2.5 like the limited, which has the option for the 2.4t.
-I love the awkward desperate attempt to steer the adventures with a hot dog joke to G rated banter. -That was a 5th gen Outback you sneaked up to. Subaru owners like to park next to each other.
@ Aussiebloke0001 Lol.. won’t park next to a 20 year old GM vehicle that’s on its original head gaskets but will park next to a 9 year old Forester on its third set and already rusting through.
As a Subaru owner that has experience with the eyesight system I can say it has one fundamental flaw. It shuts off in low visibility situations like heavy rain and snow. So when you want it the most to it's unavailable.
It works fine on my 2019 Subaru Forester during a recent cloud burst at 5:30pm on a busy winding road here in Central California. Maybe because I had my amber fog lights on at the same. It's the over zealous AEB that worries me sometimes.
I've only had a few mid-drive disables. One, with the sun at just the right angle. Once with fog at night, and a few rain storms where it was absolutely torrential, where I don't even think a radar would have helped. Even with Radar, the systems rely on a camera for redundancy. I have had a few mornings in my 16 Legacy where the system was too cold and deactivated as soon as I started the car.
@@norme1850 I've had mine brake-check people I already wanted to brake-check, because they were on my ass. There were a few false AEB warnings for sharp turns with signs close to the road. Granted, I was speeding but had full control. My only gripe is the occasional hard brake with Adaptive Cruise on, like... come on, you're already tracking that car it didn't just slam on the brakes.
It has improved with more recent iterations...my wife's 2021 hasn't turned off on her yet, despite driving through heavy snow...my 16 has cut out several times since I got it...
Yesterday I tested an Outback XT, a base engine Legacy, a XSE Camry (base engine) and an Accord 1.5 turbo. I was impressed with the ride quality, comfort, and quietness of the Subaru models. XT is the way to go. I thought the base 2.5 was fine until I had to enter the freeway at an incline. 50 mph at the top of the ramp. The same ramp in the Outback XT and I was well over the 60 mph speed limit when I merged.
the 2.5 with CVT is NOT a recipe for displeasure, it's fine. The turbo is more fun to drive but I enjoy driving the car with either engine - my wife and I both have 2020 Outbacks - one withe 2.5, one with the turbo and we like them both. It's not a sports car like the WRX, but it doesn't pretend to be one. It's a comfortable, nice handling car that I look forward to driving every time I get the chance.
Funny how the majority of people complaining about Subaru CVT's are those who've never owned one. Subaru has never had major problems with their CVT's like Nissan. Of course I wouldn't buy a Nissan even if it didn't have a CVT. It's just the local Nissan dealship here sucks. (Based on actual experience.)
@@norme1850 I actually own a crosstrek and a murano lol had my transmission replaced in the murano at 60000 km with suburu its fine and all the cvt but dang would be a whole lot better with a standard automatic transmission just give it more oopff off the line not searching for gears all the time ..
+1. .. Our early production 2020 Outback XT Touring we ordered & spec'd before the Fall '19 market launch. . A little more than 1 year old and the neu Outback XT (2.4l turbo w/CVT) continues to surprise us. . The present Subaru offerings have made a huge leap in the direction of refinement,, read quiet. . The XT Touring trim-levels dual-pane glass front windows are a nice touch. . The Outback XT turbo is the High Country, High Altitude Colorado State Kombi. . Cheers, Vail, Colorado 8,250' elevation.
Micah, just found your channel. Love the format and subscribed! You'll reach 100k in no time! Just a comment on the 2.5 litre base engine. It is just fine. Owned a 2016 Legacy for 4 years and 134,000 miles and had zero problems with it. Connected to the CVT was also not an issue. You do have to learn how to drive the CVT to optimize acceleration. Just mashing the pedal does not give you the best acceleration. A slower but consistent pressure on the accelerator till you reach speed will give you excellent merging capability. Pulling out in front of big pick up trucks is not advisable in any car. :) You also have to maintain the CVT. A drain and fill of fluid every 60K is recommended and it will last forever. Good luck with your channel growth. I'll be watching!
My family had 10 Subaru’s growing up in Lake Arrowhead. Glad to see they are still common up the hill. Special shout out to the drive by Rim of the World High School. 😊
My dad had that “StarTex” interior in his 1972 Opel GT, but back then it was called VINYL. It was soft and comfortable, but it doesn’t breathe like real leather. I know a family who has that StarTex interior and they HATE it because they sweat in it. They’ve told me that their next Subaru will NOT have the StarTex. They’ll either buy one with cloth or leather
It would be AWESOME if Subaru would bring back the turbo in the Forester. Perhaps with the 25 Forester Hybrid will have enough kick that a turbo won’t be needed.
I just bought a used 2021 Outback. I drove it on a five hour trip home at -27c. I was surprised when I brought my luggage that was sitting on the back into the house how cold the contents were. I then realized the vehicle had no rear heating vents. This is a disappointment and am surprised Subaru doesn't have this as standard. I'll have to keep the fan on full to compensate when there are rear seated passengers but at -40 will it be good enough?
I’m on the other end of ‘family friendly’ with two teenagers, one of which has just started driving (and is 6’3”). I’m looking for a vehicle that’s teen-driver friendly with Eye Sight and Blind Spot monitoring, tank-like just in case those items don’t work, big enough and comfortable enough to haul us all to Grandma’s, but not so huge it’s hard to pass that parallel parking test. I keep coming back to an Outback as the obvious solution, but my wife is stuck on “ it’s a station wagon.”
That backup camera is actually pretty terrible, my 2012 Outback that I recently purchased has a back up camera that is almost similar if a bit fuzzy and not as colorful, which is pretty bad considering this is a brand new one at 33,000 and I paid 12,000 for my 2012 one. The issue with this camera is that It should be better than okay especially when Subaru commercials constantly reminds us all about the advanced safety in their products and when there are other cars out there with better backup cameras at a similar price point.
Hey Micah... I liked your review because it was different - you had your family along and it showed how practical the Outback can be for you and yours. Besides, reviewing a car and having fun doing it is not a bad thing. Now go get your daughter a hot dog!
Just remember Subarites.... if you ever need to replace the Subie's windshield... you need to recalibrate the Eyesight system at the dealership. In fact, its best to replace the damn windshield AT the dealership. Its a extremely expensive repair and tech recalibration
I had a 2015 3.6R, that killed any future for me as a Subaru customer. I liked it at first. It was comfortable to drive. But after 2 1/2 years, it proved to be unreliable so I traded out of it. It's a very conservative driving car. You dont dare try and gun it to get through a tight situation. The engine made a lot of noise while the computer tried to figure out what to do with the CVT. The car ate batteries. I had the main battery replaced 2x under warranty. The cars electronics were also unreliable. Keyless entry errors; radio lock ups; Eyesight false positives; key fob issues. It just proved to be a very annoying car. In the 2.5 years I had that Outback, it had 4 recalls. I look at this 2021 and see lots of commonality to the 2015, so for me, it's kind of laughable that Subaru calls this generation, 'all new'. So because of my experience with the 2015, Subaru, Never Again. I did get a fantastic Kelly Blue Book trade in valuation. Just took the print out to the dealer and they honored it.
Yep.. I had a 2018 3.6 Touring that was a lemon and now 2019 3.6 Touring thats aspiring to be a lemon. Although I plan on keeping it longer until more hybrid or electric model that suit our needs come on the market.
Bought my wife a 2015 Impreza. After six years, the CD player doesn’t work; the heated seats are failing; it has lots of squeaks. Overall, because of the AWD, still we like the car, but we’ve come to think Subaru is over-rated.
my experience with 2015 3.6R is similar. Like you I've had the battery issues, and radio lockups. I've also had two wheel bearings replaced (under warranty luckily) and the overly fragile windshield replaced (and the expensive eye-sight recalibration). I still have it, and due to covid closures not driving much, but am thinking of trading it in... probably on a Highlander with the V6.
@@swells1 a colleague at work had a base level 2015. He changed out 4 windshields on his. I think he came To the conclusion the pitch was just at the sweet spot , where in other cars you might just get a small pit.
My biggest issue with this car is the touchscreen. It tends to be slow at times, I don't like the way the heated seats can only be controlled one at a time and the X-Mode should have a hard button for quick and easy access. Some parts of the climate controls can also be difficult to operate quickly when you're driving, prompting the driver alert monitor to scream "keep your eyes on the road." When it gets really cold out (like 0 degrees) the screen is annoyingly slow. As Missoula is practically the second home of the Subaru Outback, I've talked with many 4th and 5th generation Outback owners who do not care for the "iPad" like controls. I think more hard buttons similar to what Ram does with its big infotainment setup would be more appealing to older buyers. Old man me is going with a 2019 CPO Outback, maybe the 3.6R. No auto stop/start and I like the styling better. Oh, and why do they make you choose between two-mode X-mode and a Harman Kardon audio system? At $33K, both features should be on the Onyx, Limited and Touring. It is nice they have the optional Rockford Fosgate speaker upgrade, underbody skid plate protection bits and lane centering. Also, thumbs-up for rear windows that roll all the way down, I thought I was the only one that cared about that (well, me and the dog). How are you liking mountain life?
Eyesight wouldn't work too good on vehicles with manual transmissions, because the Adaptive Cruise Control and Automatic Emergency Braking. My 2019 Subaru Forester can do stop and go traffic without me touching the gas or brake pedals while driving as long as ACC is set within its range.
@@norme1850 Hyundai,Kia,Mazda and Toyota are putting all the safety features except stop and go in their manual car maybe it has something to do with Eyesight.
I highly recommend the Onyx. Easy to drive. The safety feature are real things. Acceleration can also be an important safety feature. The visibility is good and you have the advantage of sitting higher. I don't recommend it for very fast turns, because it will feel slightly top-heavy. My only concern is the number of electronic peripheral stuff connected - Sirius, Starlink and My Subaru with its e-mails. It's like getting a cell phone with apps you aren't too sure what they do and how necessary they are to buy into.
What’s the difference between a wagon and suv? This car has the same 8.7” ground clearance as the Forester and much more than the other competitors. Spot on about the CVT, it’s a showstopper and lowers the overall drivetrain experience.
Really glad they finally went with a turbo. Every time I took an Outback to the mountains (as you are legally required to do) that aspirated 4 was reaaaaaaaly struggling to do anything at altitude. It was already pretty underpowered at sea level, so the altitude just killed it.
Previously they’ve had both a H6 and a turbo H4. From ‘00-‘04, they had a 3.0H6 with a 4EAT. From ‘05-‘09 they had a 2.5XT turbo H4 with either a 5-speed manual or a 5EAT, as well as a 3.0H6 with a 5EAT. From ‘10-‘14 they had a 3.6H6 with a 5EAT, and the same engine with a HTCVT from ‘15-‘19.
@@CalebCissna Sounds good. The only one I drove was one I got from a rental counter at SLC a few years ago, it only had the 2.5 aspirated. At the time I looked it up and the optional engine was an aspirated H6 I believe. The 2.5 was slow at sea level and utterly inadequate at 8000 ft.
I got the feeling he was trying to avoid saying the acceleration is poor, which is the word I use to describe it. I think “moseying along” describes the Outback. Btw, my wife drives an Impreza; so I have nothing against Subaru.
NIce review. I would have liked to see you cover the dynamic cruise control feature more thoroughly. It's a fantastic on the interstate, so good, that I can't imagine driving highways without it. It's really remarkable and I've been using it for 5yrs now (2017 Impreza Sport 5-door) and it's never let me down, nor has it given me any cause for concern. They've updated Eyesight for 2022 which includes updated dynamic cruise control, so I can only imagine it's even better. I have a 22 Outback Onyx Edition XT on it's way this month, and I cannot wait!
The CVT is what got me to sell my 2020 Outback Onyx XT - that power drop right after taking off from a stop was a deal breaker. I thought I could get over it. I was wrong. I was hopeful that Cobb would get a tune for the Outback that would fix that. They haven't yet. The Outback was a perfect car... except for that terrible CVT programming. So I sold it.
man I dislike having every hvac control through the infotainment screen. It's enough of a distraction that I won't replace my current older outback with the new one unless that changes... and that stop/start button that resets every time you restart the car, yuck.
Do you think that other vehicles don't have the same start/stop buttons? Wrong. BTW, if it really bother you, you can buy & install the Stop/Start Eliminator, and once you turn it off, it STAYS off. The Stop/Start Eliminator is made for many other cars, trucks & SUVs, too?
@@eskieman3948 it's not the stop/start that bothers me. It's that it won't keep the setting. I could buy an aftermarket solution, but I'll choose to not buy the current Outback.
If Forester gets the same Turbo XT, I think Forester is a better buy, honestly, besides the ventilated seats, there aren’t many features available on Outback but not available on Forester. I don’t like big screen if it means less physical buttons and knobs. Subaru really needs to give us 360 camera, at least for the Outback, Legacy and Ascent.
I know that I’ve seen outboard mirror mounted cameras on the Japan spec Foresters and Levorg and that the Levorg has Eyesight 3.0 with especially high tech cameras so there is some possibility that a 360 view upgrade could be on its way.
So is this near Arrowhead or Big Bear?? Remember a family trip to Arrowhead in 1970 or so that included a 1965 Ford Country Squire that was Yellow (we called her Yellowbird since Dad wanted a Thunderbird) It did have the 352 V! No chains to get the rest of the way up so left it parked at a pull out. Three or four days later we found all four doors side window smashed and endured a very cool ride back to Anaheim... O' the good olde days!
Did this outback include the GAIA navigation app? It's a cool app that shows you trail maps in state and national parks and on public lands. Would be useful once that new Bronco arrives.
Only thing I miss from Subaru is the Baja. With everyone making new small trucks, Subaru should come back with the Baja! Lol 😝 On another note, really wish Subaru (and some others) would avoid CVT’s, instant turn off, just not interested in the sound, feel and mechanics of them.
The only issue I have with my 2019 Forester is the CVT sometimes takes longer to shift from reverse to drive. 3 seconds at most. But the simulated 7 speed shift points on the CVT does give it to feel of a regular automatic transmission. In sports mode, the CVT shifts later and at higher engine rpms. I had concerns about Subaru's CVT's before buying mine because of what everyone was saying about it, but when I couldn't find anything justifying the issues people were talking about, (recalls, breakdowns). The most mpgs on the highway I'm getting is about 32mpg from the listed 33mpg. But I'm not going to complain about the 30mpg city I'm getting instead of the listed 26mpg.
Like you review and some of the practical things you point out. Family in particular. One thing though that drives me crazy is the CVT like/dislike. Reminds me of the manual vs automatic trend. Each one has to be driven differently, as they are not the same. Flooring a CVT is not how to use a CVT, just like flooring an automatic and expecting the experience of a manual transmission, or even a direct shift gear box. I have driven all 3, and know what each can do, and with the CVT learning how to use it to its best. I am a fan of any of them? Manual still is the most fun, however, it is all about what you like and what you need it to do.
I've been tied between an outback or crosstrek sport for a good few months. I can't decide! The outback is too big but the crosstrek is too small. does the outback feel that much larger??
This channel is soooooooo underrated
That's very kind of you to say. We're happy to keep growing slowly but steadily.
btw thx for replying
@@monkeyyoman5351 I do my best to reply whenever I can. 💛
Totally true
Yes 🙌
We just bought our first Outback...we love it so far. Love the way it rides.
Your new neighborhood certainly makes an appropriate setting for a Subaru review.
It's like the west coast's Vermont.
@@MicahMuzio You should have a case or two of maple syrup in the back :)
@@jtralongo1 I ignore most advice in the TH-cam comments. But when it comes from Joe Tralongo, I listen. (overloads car with maple syrup)
@@MicahMuzio Can double as viscous coupling fluid should you punch a hole in your AWD system while climbing over boulder-strewn trials.
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Love the positive vibes Micah brings to these reviews. Good job
Loveeeee my 2021 Outback XT but every single day since purchase. I think the feeling will still remain 5 to10 years later from now.
What color interior option?
I sold my 2015 Ram 1500 for a 2021 Outback Limited. I opted for the 2.5L engine because I found the turbo uneven in its acceleration. I also live at sea level and the handful of times a year I go snowboarding I will deal with the power loss at elevation. Quiet, smooth and nicely appointed...I am very happy. Great review and love it's with the whole family. Where is the dog?
I got a 2018 outback with the 2.5 4 cylinder and I gotta tell you that it's a wonderful engine with plenty of power for everything and gets amazing fuel economy, i got a video on my channel where my outback was doing 120mph effortlessly, the outback comes with great offroad chops with 8.7 inches of ground clearance(more then some dedicated offroad trucks) with plenty of space for passengers and cargo, especially with that heavy duty roof rack and best of all it gets over 30mpg!! Not to mention all the great eyesight safety features! My favorite being the adaptive cruise control!! My 2 young daughters and myself love to go camping and sleeping in the outback! Folding the rear seats gives you a big flat surface big enough for me and daughters to sleep very comfortably
@@SubieandFriends that is awesome! How long did it take for the engine to break in and get really good mpg? I am not a lead foot by any means but I'm not getting advertised. I'm only 600miles in so I expect it to improve but just curious how long. Also...did you get a cargo box and if so what kind?
@@perseverance86 actually I got my 2018 outback used with 68k miles so not really sure on the break in period, I also dont get the best mileage when I drive around town (around 16-19mpg) but I attribute that to my heavy foot, but when I go on roadtrips on the fwy I average about 30-34mpg doing 75mph, which is good enough for me! I dont have a roof cargo box but I also would love to get me one.
Life after RAM truck, I bet Peter appreciates Subaru fuel economy and much easier to park. Tighter turning radius. Just right height for in and out. We’ve had multiple Suubies, excellent for gravel road in snow country. U-R-A-BUS backwards.
@@Skunked68 you nailed it. Just went on a 1400 mile trip touring colleges with my son. Super comfortable, good fuel and sure footed in bad weather. Just a complete home run! So happy with my purchase ☺️
So sweet that the little girl remembers her drive in the C8 with the top down! She is spoiled for life :)
Good old Highway 18. Good memories of going up there just to cruise and toss my cars around. Everywhere you look up there you see a Subaru, you’re officially mountain folk.
I bought my first Subaru six months ago, an Ascent with the same engine and CVT as in the Outback tested here. I didn’t know what to expect, given the number of complaints I’ve read about that engine and transmission. Turns out I like it quite a bit. Being a relatively normal driver (only went to Skip Barber Racing School twice and later raced an ASA car) I spend near-zero time at WOT on public streets, roads, and highways. It’s a very nice powertrain, no complaints here at all. The rest of the vehicle is pretty good as well.
Nice work Micah and spouse! I just loved the natural banter, comic relief, affection between you all and of course the actual car review. Congratulations Muzio Family!
Thanks for taking the time to leave such a lovely comment. Cheers!!
Micah YOUR AMAZING I've been a fan of you and following you many years ago from KBB Review to your Channel.
What a wonderful comment. Made my day. Cheers!!
@@MicahMuzio Yes THANK YOU SO MUCH, My Pleasure.
It is my first car in Australia. I bought a used OB 2021 Gen 6, 2.5L. Love the way it looks. Love its AWD. It allows me to drive with confidence in a bad weather.
Your daughter was so well behaved the entire time!! Best parents ever!!!
I couldn't assess the merits of this video without the mention of the Missus, she was a real bonus to your video; what a sweetie and cutie. The 4K image quality was really sharp, it made the Outback really shine. Good job.
Thanks
You two are the cutest couple! So much admiration and sense of humor from both of you.
An amazing family with an amazing SUV in another amazing video!
The Outback is definitely a wagon though, not an SUV.
You guys are honestly the best. Keep up the entertainment reviews !
Came for the Subaru, stayed for the channel. Best of luck and I believe in the bright future for the Muzio fam!
Thanks so much for the kind comment!
I got the 5th gen 2.5. You get used to it trust me, I just let the 4wd take control and use inertia for the most mpgs. I like to know that I got just enough torque to get me out of trouble in traffic. The ride quality and quiet cabin are great. Not the fastest I agree but plenty for a family hauler and commuter. 14:22 is a 4th gen Outback.
Great review! I never had a clue on how to use the pin code thing, also, the Onyx edition is based on the premium trim (which is why it doesn't have memory seats). It costs more than the limited because it comes with 2.4t standard (along with special accents and seats) instead of the 2.5 like the limited, which has the option for the 2.4t.
-I love the awkward desperate attempt to steer the adventures with a hot dog joke to G rated banter.
-That was a 5th gen Outback you sneaked up to. Subaru owners like to park next to each other.
And wave when we see eachother
Truth...😁
Big facts. I parked my outback inbetween 2 other outbacks in a parking lot even though it was further away from the entrance of the grocery store.
@ Aussiebloke0001
Lol.. won’t park next to a 20 year old GM vehicle that’s on its original head gaskets but will park next to a 9 year old Forester on its third set and already rusting through.
why subaru do not make a 360 view cam??? why only 180 view ???
As a Subaru owner that has experience with the eyesight system I can say it has one fundamental flaw. It shuts off in low visibility situations like heavy rain and snow. So when you want it the most to it's unavailable.
It works fine on my 2019 Subaru Forester during a recent cloud burst at 5:30pm on a busy winding road here in Central California. Maybe because I had my amber fog lights on at the same. It's the over zealous AEB that worries me sometimes.
I've only had a few mid-drive disables. One, with the sun at just the right angle. Once with fog at night, and a few rain storms where it was absolutely torrential, where I don't even think a radar would have helped. Even with Radar, the systems rely on a camera for redundancy. I have had a few mornings in my 16 Legacy where the system was too cold and deactivated as soon as I started the car.
@@norme1850 I've had mine brake-check people I already wanted to brake-check, because they were on my ass. There were a few false AEB warnings for sharp turns with signs close to the road. Granted, I was speeding but had full control. My only gripe is the occasional hard brake with Adaptive Cruise on, like... come on, you're already tracking that car it didn't just slam on the brakes.
It has improved with more recent iterations...my wife's 2021 hasn't turned off on her yet, despite driving through heavy snow...my 16 has cut out several times since I got it...
My 2018 Outback Premium doesn't have Eyesight, it was optional that year
Absolutely stellar when you had to pull a 'needed acceleration' could not stop laughing 😂
0-60 in 6.3 Sec. Don't let its black cladding fool you. It gets up and goes.
I thought my 2018 Outback Premium 2.5 was fast.
Yesterday I tested an Outback XT, a base engine Legacy, a XSE Camry (base engine) and an Accord 1.5 turbo. I was impressed with the ride quality, comfort, and quietness of the Subaru models. XT is the way to go. I thought the base 2.5 was fine until I had to enter the freeway at an incline. 50 mph at the top of the ramp. The same ramp in the Outback XT and I was well over the 60 mph speed limit when I merged.
the 2.5 with CVT is NOT a recipe for displeasure, it's fine. The turbo is more fun to drive but I enjoy driving the car with either engine - my wife and I both have 2020 Outbacks - one withe 2.5, one with the turbo and we like them both. It's not a sports car like the WRX, but it doesn't pretend to be one. It's a comfortable, nice handling car that I look forward to driving every time I get the chance.
Watching your video for the first time. I loved your format.
Time for suburu too dump the cvt then they will have a winner nice review you guys ..
Not gonna happen, unless if their stuck in a lawsuit with tons of dissatisfied customers
Ask Nissan about the pathfinder
Funny how the majority of people complaining about Subaru CVT's are those who've never owned one. Subaru has never had major problems with their CVT's like Nissan. Of course I wouldn't buy a Nissan even if it didn't have a CVT. It's just the local Nissan dealship here sucks. (Based on actual experience.)
@@norme1850 true, Subaru cvts are actually pretty good
@@norme1850 I actually own a crosstrek and a murano lol had my transmission replaced in the murano at 60000 km with suburu its fine and all the cvt but dang would be a whole lot better with a standard automatic transmission just give it more oopff off the line not searching for gears all the time ..
This video was awesome! I totally appreciate a review from a real world family perspective. I’ll be looking forward to the musical version 😂
High 5 to all of you. You guys are great. Yup! Evie's a cutie alright!
+1. .. Our early production 2020 Outback XT Touring we ordered & spec'd before the Fall '19 market launch. . A little more than 1 year old and the neu Outback XT (2.4l turbo w/CVT) continues to surprise us. . The present Subaru offerings have made a huge leap in the direction of refinement,, read quiet. . The XT Touring trim-levels dual-pane glass front windows are a nice touch. . The Outback XT turbo is the High Country, High Altitude Colorado State Kombi. . Cheers, Vail, Colorado 8,250' elevation.
You two have a chemistry that brings me joy to watch, and you're both pretty easy on the eyes too. #relationshipgoals
Evie just makes me Smile. She is the Best! Congrats on the new House!
I had a Subaru outback and that car was amazing in snow. It was the best car for winter road conditions. Great traction. Great ABS breaking. Loved it.
Micah, just found your channel. Love the format and subscribed! You'll reach 100k in no time! Just a comment on the 2.5 litre base engine. It is just fine. Owned a 2016 Legacy for 4 years and 134,000 miles and had zero problems with it. Connected to the CVT was also not an issue. You do have to learn how to drive the CVT to optimize acceleration. Just mashing the pedal does not give you the best acceleration. A slower but consistent pressure on the accelerator till you reach speed will give you excellent merging capability. Pulling out in front of big pick up trucks is not advisable in any car. :) You also have to maintain the CVT. A drain and fill of fluid every 60K is recommended and it will last forever. Good luck with your channel growth. I'll be watching!
Realistic honest ( imo) review. Best I've seen for some time.
Thank you.
My family had 10 Subaru’s growing up in Lake Arrowhead. Glad to see they are still common up the hill. Special shout out to the drive by Rim of the World High School. 😊
My dad had that “StarTex” interior in his 1972 Opel GT, but back then it was called VINYL.
It was soft and comfortable, but it doesn’t breathe like real leather.
I know a family who has that StarTex interior and they HATE it because they sweat in it. They’ve told me that their next Subaru will NOT have the StarTex. They’ll either buy one with cloth or leather
It would be AWESOME if Subaru would bring back the turbo in the Forester.
Perhaps with the 25 Forester Hybrid will have enough kick that a turbo won’t be needed.
I just bought a used 2021 Outback. I drove it on a five hour trip home at -27c. I was surprised when I brought my luggage that was sitting on the back into the house how cold the contents were. I then realized the vehicle had no rear heating vents. This is a disappointment and am surprised Subaru doesn't have this as standard. I'll have to keep the fan on full to compensate when there are rear seated passengers but at -40 will it be good enough?
The keypad is nice and all, but I’ve never been able to lock the fob in a vehicle.
Wish I could get my wife to wear a stylish Beenie Evie! Another great fam review!
I’m on the other end of ‘family friendly’ with two teenagers, one of which has just started driving (and is 6’3”). I’m looking for a vehicle that’s teen-driver friendly with Eye Sight and Blind Spot monitoring, tank-like just in case those items don’t work, big enough and comfortable enough to haul us all to Grandma’s, but not so huge it’s hard to pass that parallel parking test. I keep coming back to an Outback as the obvious solution, but my wife is stuck on “ it’s a station wagon.”
Weird how Subaru calling it an "SUV" doesn't help shake that wagon image. :)
That backup camera is actually pretty terrible, my 2012 Outback that I recently purchased has a back up camera that is almost similar if a bit fuzzy and not as colorful, which is pretty bad considering this is a brand new one at 33,000 and I paid 12,000 for my 2012 one. The issue with this camera is that It should be better than okay especially when Subaru commercials constantly reminds us all about the advanced safety in their products and when there are other cars out there with better backup cameras at a similar price point.
Hey Micah... I liked your review because it was different - you had your family along and it showed how practical the Outback can be for you and yours. Besides, reviewing a car and having fun doing it is not a bad thing. Now go get your daughter a hot dog!
Ask and you shall receive! A month ago I asked if you both would do an Outback review... and here it is! Picking up mine tomorrow, thanks Micah!
Happy to help. And big congrats on your purchase!
This review bightens my day and makes me so happy haha
Your comment did the same for us, Olivia. Cheers!
Thank you for doing this Subaru outback review Micah. I’ve been toying with the idea of trading in my car for a new Subaru. Your review helped.
Happy to be of assistance. Cheers, Ralph!!
I have an 18 Outback and it's a fantastic car. Get one if you can.
I actually like the 2.5L i find it has plenty of power for me.....
And great fuel economy for an AWD wagon with a lot of cargo space. I get around 30mpg
Yes great review from great channel Micah and family so entertaining and real world information :)
Just remember Subarites.... if you ever need to replace the Subie's windshield... you need to recalibrate the Eyesight system at the dealership. In fact, its best to replace the damn windshield AT the dealership. Its a extremely expensive repair and tech recalibration
My 2020 Outback windshield broke within the first 3 days of having it, but Subaru replaced it.
The dealership sent my father-in-law to safelite, and then had to schedule an appointment at the dealership to recalibrate everything. 🤷🏻♂️
I had a 2015 3.6R, that killed any future for me as a Subaru customer. I liked it at first. It was comfortable to drive. But after 2 1/2 years, it proved to be unreliable so I traded out of it.
It's a very conservative driving car. You dont dare try and gun it to get through a tight situation. The engine made a lot of noise while the computer tried to figure out what to do with the CVT. The car ate batteries. I had the main battery replaced 2x under warranty. The cars electronics were also unreliable. Keyless entry errors; radio lock ups; Eyesight false positives; key fob issues. It just proved to be a very annoying car.
In the 2.5 years I had that Outback, it had 4 recalls.
I look at this 2021 and see lots of commonality to the 2015, so for me, it's kind of laughable that Subaru calls this generation, 'all new'.
So because of my experience with the 2015, Subaru, Never Again.
I did get a fantastic Kelly Blue Book trade in valuation. Just took the print out to the dealer and they honored it.
Yep.. I had a 2018 3.6 Touring that was a lemon and now 2019 3.6 Touring thats aspiring to be a lemon. Although I plan on keeping it longer until more hybrid or electric model that suit our needs come on the market.
Bought my wife a 2015 Impreza. After six years, the CD player doesn’t work; the heated seats are failing; it has lots of squeaks. Overall, because of the AWD, still we like the car, but we’ve come to think Subaru is over-rated.
my experience with 2015 3.6R is similar. Like you I've had the battery issues, and radio lockups. I've also had two wheel bearings replaced (under warranty luckily) and the overly fragile windshield replaced (and the expensive eye-sight recalibration). I still have it, and due to covid closures not driving much, but am thinking of trading it in... probably on a Highlander with the V6.
@@swells1 a colleague at work had a base level 2015. He changed out 4 windshields on his. I think he came To the conclusion the pitch was just at the sweet spot , where in other cars you might just get a small pit.
Having a bad Monday today and this entertaining review made it slightly better, thanks guys 😀
My biggest issue with this car is the touchscreen. It tends to be slow at times, I don't like the way the heated seats can only be controlled one at a time and the X-Mode should have a hard button for quick and easy access. Some parts of the climate controls can also be difficult to operate quickly when you're driving, prompting the driver alert monitor to scream "keep your eyes on the road." When it gets really cold out (like 0 degrees) the screen is annoyingly slow. As Missoula is practically the second home of the Subaru Outback, I've talked with many 4th and 5th generation Outback owners who do not care for the "iPad" like controls. I think more hard buttons similar to what Ram does with its big infotainment setup would be more appealing to older buyers.
Old man me is going with a 2019 CPO Outback, maybe the 3.6R. No auto stop/start and I like the styling better. Oh, and why do they make you choose between two-mode X-mode and a Harman Kardon audio system? At $33K, both features should be on the Onyx, Limited and Touring. It is nice they have the optional Rockford Fosgate speaker upgrade, underbody skid plate protection bits and lane centering. Also, thumbs-up for rear windows that roll all the way down, I thought I was the only one that cared about that (well, me and the dog).
How are you liking mountain life?
Get in on the Game!
Subaru sells WRXs and STis as well as Manual Crosstreks and Imprezas without Eyesight.
Great review!
Eyesight wouldn't work too good on vehicles with manual transmissions, because the Adaptive Cruise Control and Automatic Emergency Braking. My 2019 Subaru Forester can do stop and go traffic without me touching the gas or brake pedals while driving as long as ACC is set within its range.
@@norme1850 Thanks Captain Obvious, I didn’t think I needed to say that.
@@norme1850 Hyundai,Kia,Mazda and Toyota are putting all the safety features except stop and go in their manual car maybe it has something to do with Eyesight.
I think Subaru needs to get into hybrid game, and not just Crosstrek. Why don't take advantage of Toyota partnership?
40-mpg Forester anyone?
They came out with a hybrid Forester last year. It's not up to par with the Toyota Rav4 hybrid. Probably because of the smaller motor and battery.
Gotta put the Oscar Meyer emblem on the sides of the hotdog bun wagon.
I highly recommend the Onyx. Easy to drive. The safety feature are real things. Acceleration can also be an important safety feature. The visibility is good and you have the advantage of sitting higher. I don't recommend it for very fast turns, because it will feel slightly top-heavy. My only concern is the number of electronic peripheral stuff connected - Sirius, Starlink and My Subaru with its e-mails. It's like getting a cell phone with apps you aren't too sure what they do and how necessary they are to buy into.
Micah is my favorite car reviewer.
Love your reviews and your family.
What’s the difference between a wagon and suv? This car has the same 8.7” ground clearance as the Forester and much more than the other competitors. Spot on about the CVT, it’s a showstopper and lowers the overall drivetrain experience.
Well, skippy, ALL of the manufacturers are moving to CVTs whether we want them or not, and Subaru has the best of the CVTs. Whatcha gonna do?
You made it fun. We call Subaru adaptive cruise control "addictive" cruise control. Don’t wish to roll without it.
It doesn't have a fully articulated rotor system. As a mater of factor it doesn't have rotor system at all.
Your wife makes my heart warm btw not trying to pull a move on her
Love my 2021 Onyx XT. I should have waited for the Wilderness. Nonetheless, it's my favorite vehicle.
You can get a Subaru without eyesight.
It's called "manual transmission" option. :) ***
*** - For models that have the 5MT/6MT option.
True! I should have noted that. In fact, I will note that in the Crosstrek video we've got coming soon.
Really glad they finally went with a turbo. Every time I took an Outback to the mountains (as you are legally required to do) that aspirated 4 was reaaaaaaaly struggling to do anything at altitude. It was already pretty underpowered at sea level, so the altitude just killed it.
Previously they’ve had both a H6 and a turbo H4. From ‘00-‘04, they had a 3.0H6 with a 4EAT. From ‘05-‘09 they had a 2.5XT turbo H4 with either a 5-speed manual or a 5EAT, as well as a 3.0H6 with a 5EAT. From ‘10-‘14 they had a 3.6H6 with a 5EAT, and the same engine with a HTCVT from ‘15-‘19.
@@CalebCissna Sounds good. The only one I drove was one I got from a rental counter at SLC a few years ago, it only had the 2.5 aspirated. At the time I looked it up and the optional engine was an aspirated H6 I believe. The 2.5 was slow at sea level and utterly inadequate at 8000 ft.
@@bump_draft Yeah in my opinion you need the bigger engines if you plan to go to high elevation or load the vehicle up at all.
Use a K&M air filter, no problems in the Rockies
@@lowlifeangler That's not how atmospheric pressure works.
Probably my next car after my ‘08 highlander dies...so maybe the 7th gen
Screen is too big IMO lose the piano black trim and Id consider transitioning from my 2017 Forester XT
I got the feeling he was trying to avoid saying the acceleration is poor, which is the word I use to describe it. I think “moseying along” describes the Outback.
Btw, my wife drives an Impreza; so I have nothing against Subaru.
I love the outback for for being made for family hauling there is zero cubby space
Micah is the coolest guy ever. He's car reviews are so funny.
You’re very kind. Cheers!
NIce review. I would have liked to see you cover the dynamic cruise control feature more thoroughly. It's a fantastic on the interstate, so good, that I can't imagine driving highways without it. It's really remarkable and I've been using it for 5yrs now (2017 Impreza Sport 5-door) and it's never let me down, nor has it given me any cause for concern. They've updated Eyesight for 2022 which includes updated dynamic cruise control, so I can only imagine it's even better.
I have a 22 Outback Onyx Edition XT on it's way this month, and I cannot wait!
Doesn’t higher ground clearance in Southern California let catalytic converter thieves do their thing??
where was this filmed? Look like a great place for a daytrip
The CVT is what got me to sell my 2020 Outback Onyx XT - that power drop right after taking off from a stop was a deal breaker. I thought I could get over it. I was wrong. I was hopeful that Cobb would get a tune for the Outback that would fix that. They haven't yet. The Outback was a perfect car... except for that terrible CVT programming. So I sold it.
And what did you get to replace it, hmmmm?
@@eskieman3948 WRX STI Series.White
Great Pair of You. Fine point of view.
man I dislike having every hvac control through the infotainment screen. It's enough of a distraction that I won't replace my current older outback with the new one unless that changes... and that stop/start button that resets every time you restart the car, yuck.
Do you think that other vehicles don't have the same start/stop buttons? Wrong. BTW, if it really bother you, you can buy & install the Stop/Start Eliminator, and once you turn it off, it STAYS off. The Stop/Start Eliminator is made for many other cars, trucks & SUVs, too?
@@eskieman3948 it's not the stop/start that bothers me. It's that it won't keep the setting. I could buy an aftermarket solution, but I'll choose to not buy the current Outback.
If Forester gets the same Turbo XT, I think Forester is a better buy, honestly, besides the ventilated seats, there aren’t many features available on Outback but not available on Forester. I don’t like big screen if it means less physical buttons and knobs. Subaru really needs to give us 360 camera, at least for the Outback, Legacy and Ascent.
I know that I’ve seen outboard mirror mounted cameras on the Japan spec Foresters and Levorg and that the Levorg has Eyesight 3.0 with especially high tech cameras so there is some possibility that a 360 view upgrade could be on its way.
Were did you guys just move to in the mountains?
2022 Outback Premium on up receive rear air vents. ☺️
So is this near Arrowhead or Big Bear?? Remember a family trip to Arrowhead in 1970 or so that included a 1965 Ford Country Squire that was Yellow (we called her Yellowbird since Dad wanted a Thunderbird) It did have the 352 V! No chains to get the rest of the way up so left it parked at a pull out. Three or four days later we found all four doors side window smashed and endured a very cool ride back to Anaheim... O' the good olde days!
“Driving ‘round the corner at a moderate speed”😂 🪗🎤
I miss the OG Legacy wagon and the one from the 2000s. They were nice to look at and had a cool factor. Recent Outbacks just look dumpy.
Yeah, I agree.
There seems to be more ugly junky plastic added every year now.
Dumpy like they have big back ends?
That backend just looks hideous. Unnecessary overhang is what my brother calls it.
Did this outback include the GAIA navigation app? It's a cool app that shows you trail maps in state and national parks and on public lands. Would be useful once that new Bronco arrives.
Full digital cockpit with more configuratiion and smaller gear lever and it would be the perfect interior
Only thing I miss from Subaru is the Baja. With everyone making new small trucks, Subaru should come back with the Baja! Lol 😝
On another note, really wish Subaru (and some others) would avoid CVT’s, instant turn off, just not interested in the sound, feel and mechanics of them.
The only issue I have with my 2019 Forester is the CVT sometimes takes longer to shift from reverse to drive. 3 seconds at most. But the simulated 7 speed shift points on the CVT does give it to feel of a regular automatic transmission. In sports mode, the CVT shifts later and at higher engine rpms. I had concerns about Subaru's CVT's before buying mine because of what everyone was saying about it, but when I couldn't find anything justifying the issues people were talking about, (recalls, breakdowns). The most mpgs on the highway I'm getting is about 32mpg from the listed 33mpg. But I'm not going to complain about the 30mpg city I'm getting instead of the listed 26mpg.
Like you review and some of the practical things you point out. Family in particular. One thing though that drives me crazy is the CVT like/dislike. Reminds me of the manual vs automatic trend. Each one has to be driven differently, as they are not the same. Flooring a CVT is not how to use a CVT, just like flooring an automatic and expecting the experience of a manual transmission, or even a direct shift gear box. I have driven all 3, and know what each can do, and with the CVT learning how to use it to its best. I am a fan of any of them? Manual still is the most fun, however, it is all about what you like and what you need it to do.
I've been tied between an outback or crosstrek sport for a good few months. I can't decide! The outback is too big but the crosstrek is too small. does the outback feel that much larger??
You should see what it takes to delete the horn honk when you lock the car. Subaru makes you insert the key 3 times then roll down the window, etc.
Full size spare tire!
Please review a forester 2022
Awesome video love Subaru
Cool video! If there's a manual transmision available, that version cannot have Eyesight!
HOW IS IT OFF ROAD?
Finally your own Channel.
I like the new Outback. We don’t get the new version in Europe yet. I like the interior.
I love this channel. How did you and your wife meet, Micah?!?
Believe it or not, we met in the 7th grade. Dated off and on through high school. Married in 1999.
Yah the base engine. What made me get rid of my first outback looking at a touring xt for my next