Great video Alex 👏🏻 I’ve recently been thinking about playing around with my settings as I need less spin off the tee and I only carry around 200 and I have a high ball flight. I hit a very slight fade so a few alterations might just be the answer. Fingers that works
This was exactly my problem. My "miss" was very high and slightly right. Not a big slice, just a high fade. The height was killing me total distance because I'd get too much backspin and very little rollout. At times I'd hit bombs that barely added any total distance. Nothing like getting a ton of carry and like 5-10 yards of rollout. I did a Ping fitting recently (coming from Stealth 2) and ended up with the G430 Max 10k. I went from a regular flex to a 55 stiff flex. Took off half an inch from the length (I'm 5'11") and adjusted the hosel down to 9⁰. My spin numbers and trajectory looked so much better after lowering the loft. My order just shipped so I look forward to playing a round with it. I may toggle between the 9 and 9.5 degree settings to see what works the best for me in real life.
Great video Alex, yet I've heard people, especially club pros saying very similar things like, giving the public the ability to play around with loft and lye is not a good thing, their ability to put it in the correct setting very limited, also their ability to deliver a consistent swing is very infrequent, so they then set the head incorrectly and get into a real mess, it's best left alone or go to someone that really knows what is accurately required.
awesome video after all the drivers i have had the past 7 years ( 11 drivers ) i have never adjusted one of them mmmm guess i should have tinkered lol will tinker a bit with my Stealth 2 HD 9.5 degree thx for the video gave me some good ideas cheers from Vulcan Canada
You obviously have too much money😂 I have had 3 Drivers in the last 16 years. With good fundamentals you should be able to hit any driver. Of course you can optimize your driver with the right settings and shaft. If you think the issue is your driver just ask a scratch player to hit it a few times and watch them hit it 260-270 yards and in play😮 Probably not as good as their driver but clearly okay.
I still game my 9* ping G410 plus. I found the correct shaft for my swing. I’m currently carrying 296 with a rollout to roughly 315-320. Nice low to mid trajectory. I have it set at 8*. It’s fun to try all the hosel settings. It really does make a difference
Alex , I’m sorry that you received this much criticism for being “high energy” in your presentation. I value your wisdom and commitment to your channel and the content that is so informative! So keep up the good work and don’t listen to the naysayers man because we do appreciate you! Cheers from N Myrtle Beach!
I'm 60 yrs old, and started playing at 35. Being self taught, and starting at such a late age, I never learned how to disengage my muscles to swing the club quickly, and hence, always hovered around 85mph swing speed. Even with such a slow swing speed, at a recent fitting, contrary to prevailing thoughts, it was determined that I needed a lower lofted driver (9 degrees), than what my low swing speed would otherwise dictate. The reason being, that I had a very positive angle of attack, +5 or so degrees, with an overall launch of around 18-19 degrees; so launch height was no issue, spin and smash factor were. I needed reduced spin and and more ball speed, which the lower loft gives me. Just my anecdotal commentary....
@@davidturk417 Exactly. I found the same thing to be true. The driver head COG and shaft also play a key role as well. Everyone needs to get fitted. The problem is finding a good fitter!
Regarding the face opening/closing when altering loft. The face does get open when you deloft and closed when you add loft. But isn’t the idea that you should square up the face at adress, and that is what actually makes the loft change? So in affect, the face opening/closing should really not make a difference right? If you add loft and let the driver sit with that face closed, you will still play the original loft but with a closed face, and that’s not the idea. Am I right?
Hosel adjustment works on the basis that the shaft will always be held in the same way. Not that the club head will always be put on the ground the same way. Meaning to say, hold the shaft consistently, and let the adjusted club head then lie as it shows up
With newer technology drivers, a lot of slow swingers (94 mph) will actually benefit from a lower loft setting assuming you have a good AoA. This is contrary to what we were told just 10 years ago. This is what some of the ladies do. Bottom line is get fitted and don’t be afraid to experiment with driver head technology, shaft, and loft. I picked up 10 yards carry and 10 yards roll going from 10.5 to a 9.5 degree loft setting! My AoA is +3 to +4.
@@mattforst6591 No issues with dispersion as I typically hit a straight ball or even a little draw. The 9.5 loft helped to reduce those higher spin shots that fall out of the sky with very little roll. My problem now is fairway bunkers are now coming into play that were out of reach before🤔
@@TMar1961 I guess you are right when looking at the average swing speed across all golfers. But for the better players or players trying to get better, 100+ is a lot more common. I would then have more birdie opportunities. Age might not be on my side though.
@@rw_golf6387 I'm 63 and play to 11 at about 6kyds, avg drive is just 210 with 230ish rollout. It's not all about swing speed, I know plenty of guys my age or older that are single digit handicaps. Scoring is all about short game and avoiding doubles or worse. The 'bomb and gouge' works fine for pros, or aspiring pros, but imo it's not the way to go for the vast majority of golfers due to not having good enough short game.
I always put a new driver on the lowest setting and then go up from there if necessary. The only way to get a little extra roll out at the courses I play is to hit it at a lower trajectory to possibly avoid plugging in the fairway.
Very interesting - personally I would be afraid to tinker as I wouldn’t remember where I had altered it from. Also I would not trust myself to screw the shaft back in correctly. Leave it to the experts or your teaching pro. Overall would love to experiment and save cost of new driver but scared I would not achieve what I wanted and wasted my time if I did it myself.
Was fitted for Ping G430. Result G 430 max 12 degrees. Can’t hit it as well as older Callaway driver. Certainly shorter and right. Just sold the Ping for substantial loss.
@@jamespark3399 So how did you get fitted to a driver that didn’t work on the course? I would have gone back to the fitter. We need to start holding these guys accountable to their fittings!
Closed face or not, there's another key factor; angle of attack/swing path. A 20 degree driver😮 with a severe negative angle of attack/out to in path will still slice.
My x hot Callaway has open, neutral and closed. I have it set at neutral. I haven't tried the other settings. Instead I am focusing on a better swing path.
Your energy levels and delivery of information is like listening to a hype man for a speed freak chatter non stop on +10 playback speed. Simmer down son. A million edits in a 10 min video is painful to boot
@@georgesimmons4923 You can usually buy one online that is almost new and about half the cost. I have never paid full retail. Prices are stupid high and there is very little gain. Better off getting lessons and optimizing your current driver.
@@randyposs6281 I'll get right on that lmao. 2 children under the age of 10 on one income with all the things that come along now days takes up all of my funds. I can't make them go without just so I can play a game I love. Maybe in another life I'll be able to afford it lol
You guys don’t see the problem…….. His story about the guy slicing the ball, the fix should have been his swing…. The driver adjustments didn’t really fix his swing….. He is still slicing the ball, but you can’t tell, and chances are that he is slicing his irons. This is just another quick fix gimmick, if you have a good swing fine tuning will benefit you, but if you slice the ball or hook it, then what good is it? Fix your swing first.
I agree with you, but you have to admit that this could be a small part of eliminating one's slice. Our swing is made up of different elements that have to be fined tuned just like a musical instrument to find the sweet spot😎
As a fitter, I agree it is always the swing and I always show people the problem but I would estimate that over half of my fittings don’t either have the time (work family) or the desire to fix their swing and want as much help as possible out of the club. Any good fitter will find out what the players perspective on this is and then proceed accordingly. You might also be surprised how many tour players don’t play their drivers in the neutral position.
@@golfranchshop552Not surprised at all. I would never expect them to swing a stock setting on a driver. The tour player is a different being. They are looking for the optimum settings that will benefit their game.
@@stevenwhiting8941 which was my point. The same for a player that misses a certain way because of his motion wants a setting or club that will optimize his game as well without changing his motion.
Also remember, when you change the loft, you also change the grip position. If you use a grip with aligning built in, it won't feel right in your hands.
That jumping from camera angle to camera angle every three seconds almost gave me seizures. I couldn't concentrate on any of the hurried through explanations. You get into some Meth?
Loft settings can be a dangerous path, buy the driver that Suits to begin with. Changing loft, can open or close the face, you lose control of your accuracy, if you get fitted correctly, the driver set up will suit your swing, speed and plane. This video opens Pandora’s box, ignore it
Ur demonstration means nothing to a below average golfer such as a senior with D swing speed below 90. I’m 72, swing D at 90ish (slower as round proceeds and I get tired). I’ve been fit for a 10.5 degree moved up to 12 degrees. I also use a high flying ball TITLEIST pro V1 X. The combination gives me more carry and a draw which will roll out better than a weak low fade. Really surprised u give no real world advice for ur audience such as “I’m a pro” and my results have nothing to do with yours😂
What this man does not understand is that swing speed determines how much loft you should have on your driver. The best analogy is a hosepipe----the water might carry a certain number of feet or yards, but if you reduce the water pressure you need to elevate the hosepipe to retain the same carry distance. The same applies to swing speed. It is a shame this man does not understand simple physics, but then he's not exactly well educated.
Amateur golfers having a key and changing their club settings isn't a good thing. Go to a pro. Have a lesson. Let them set it up for you. Throw away the key......
*Can you believe the difference!! It’s crazy right?! What are you going to do to your driver?!*
Great video Alex 👏🏻 I’ve recently been thinking about playing around with my settings as I need less spin off the tee and I only carry around 200 and I have a high ball flight. I hit a very slight fade so a few alterations might just be the answer. Fingers that works
This was exactly my problem. My "miss" was very high and slightly right. Not a big slice, just a high fade. The height was killing me total distance because I'd get too much backspin and very little rollout. At times I'd hit bombs that barely added any total distance. Nothing like getting a ton of carry and like 5-10 yards of rollout. I did a Ping fitting recently (coming from Stealth 2) and ended up with the G430 Max 10k. I went from a regular flex to a 55 stiff flex. Took off half an inch from the length (I'm 5'11") and adjusted the hosel down to 9⁰. My spin numbers and trajectory looked so much better after lowering the loft. My order just shipped so I look forward to playing a round with it. I may toggle between the 9 and 9.5 degree settings to see what works the best for me in real life.
This is a good video, very educational. I never exactly knew the purpose of the different driver settings. This may help my game; 15HCP currently.
Lots of words, but I didn’t tune in for a crazy salad. I did learn something and it’s about this channel.
This is probably my favorite video that you've made so far. You bring a great energy to the game. Thank you
thank you!! for tuning in
Great video Alex, yet I've heard people, especially club pros saying very similar things like, giving the public the ability to play around with loft and lye is not a good thing, their ability to put it in the correct setting very limited, also their ability to deliver a consistent swing is very infrequent, so they then set the head incorrectly and get into a real mess, it's best left alone or go to someone that really knows what is accurately required.
All I want is a lesson with this guy. Loving the videos!
Thank you ❤️🙌🏼
Excellent driver fitting video. Amazing how you can adjust these new drivers. 🤔💝
Superb video. I am sure a lot of people are going to be tinkering with their driver setting after watching this video
awesome video after all the drivers i have had the past 7 years ( 11 drivers ) i have never adjusted one of them mmmm guess i should have tinkered lol will tinker a bit with my Stealth 2 HD 9.5 degree thx for the video gave me some good ideas cheers from Vulcan Canada
Tinkering by yourself is good but if you can afford it getting fit is even better.
You obviously have too much money😂 I have had 3 Drivers in the last 16 years. With good fundamentals you should be able to hit any driver. Of course you can optimize your driver with the right settings and shaft. If you think the issue is your driver just ask a scratch player to hit it a few times and watch them hit it 260-270 yards and in play😮 Probably not as good as their driver but clearly okay.
Best black Friday
Great info on how to set your driver
I still game my 9* ping G410 plus. I found the correct shaft for my swing. I’m currently carrying 296 with a rollout to roughly 315-320. Nice low to mid trajectory. I have it set at 8*. It’s fun to try all the hosel settings. It really does make a difference
Alex , I’m sorry that you received this much criticism for being “high energy” in your presentation. I value your wisdom and commitment to your channel and the content that is so informative! So keep up the good work and don’t listen to the naysayers man because we do appreciate you! Cheers from N Myrtle Beach!
Haha i know… thank you i appreciate it ❤️
I'm 70 and I looking for the best loft for my driver. Thanks a million for all your great golf tips on TH-cam I
No problem 👍
I totally agree.i put my setting in minus 1 flat of my ping g430 sft driver.the result is right on the target
I'm 60 yrs old, and started playing at 35. Being self taught, and starting at such a late age, I never learned how to disengage my muscles to swing the club quickly, and hence, always hovered around 85mph swing speed. Even with such a slow swing speed, at a recent fitting, contrary to prevailing thoughts, it was determined that I needed a lower lofted driver (9 degrees), than what my low swing speed would otherwise dictate. The reason being, that I had a very positive angle of attack, +5 or so degrees, with an overall launch of around 18-19 degrees; so launch height was no issue, spin and smash factor were. I needed reduced spin and and more ball speed, which the lower loft gives me. Just my anecdotal commentary....
@@davidturk417 Exactly. I found the same thing to be true. The driver head COG and shaft also play a key role as well. Everyone needs to get fitted. The problem is finding a good fitter!
Does lower loft not increase the spin, due to the open face?
@@bhughes1986 No. If not convinced, go to a fitting bay ($50) and try different settings with your driver.
@@rw_golf6387 I had a fitting - putting the ‘fade’ setting resulted in more spin.
@@bhughes1986 Interesting. There are many variables that affect spin, but numbers don’t lie. You have to go with what works for you.
Regarding the face opening/closing when altering loft. The face does get open when you deloft and closed when you add loft. But isn’t the idea that you should square up the face at adress, and that is what actually makes the loft change? So in affect, the face opening/closing should really not make a difference right?
If you add loft and let the driver sit with that face closed, you will still play the original loft but with a closed face, and that’s not the idea. Am I right?
Yes, you are right.
Hosel adjustment works on the basis that the shaft will always be held in the same way. Not that the club head will always be put on the ground the same way. Meaning to say, hold the shaft consistently, and let the adjusted club head then lie as it shows up
UST shaft is Ping stock… quite good!
I play a 9 degree driver turned to 10.5 to help with my push slice.
With newer technology drivers, a lot of slow swingers (94 mph) will actually benefit from a lower loft setting assuming you have a good AoA. This is contrary to what we were told just 10 years ago. This is what some of the ladies do. Bottom line is get fitted and don’t be afraid to experiment with driver head technology, shaft, and loft. I picked up 10 yards carry and 10 yards roll going from 10.5 to a 9.5 degree loft setting! My AoA is +3 to +4.
If you don't lose dispersion.
@@mattforst6591 No issues with dispersion as I typically hit a straight ball or even a little draw. The 9.5 loft helped to reduce those higher spin shots that fall out of the sky with very little roll. My problem now is fairway bunkers are now coming into play that were out of reach before🤔
94 isnt slow
@@TMar1961 I guess you are right when looking at the average swing speed across all golfers. But for the better players or players trying to get better, 100+ is a lot more common. I would then have more birdie opportunities. Age might not be on my side though.
@@rw_golf6387 I'm 63 and play to 11 at about 6kyds, avg drive is just 210 with 230ish rollout. It's not all about swing speed, I know plenty of guys my age or older that are single digit handicaps. Scoring is all about short game and avoiding doubles or worse. The 'bomb and gouge' works fine for pros, or aspiring pros, but imo it's not the way to go for the vast majority of golfers due to not having good enough short game.
I went from 10.5 to 12 and added about 20 yards of distance. Older golfer without a lot of swing speed.
I play flat +1 and its working awesome for me.
I always put a new driver on the lowest setting and then go up from there if necessary. The only way to get a little extra roll out at the courses I play is to hit it at a lower trajectory to possibly avoid plugging in the fairway.
My Cobra Radspeed XB 10.5 is set at 9.0 and it’s perfect for me.
Have a 12° Cobra Aerojet, turned down to 10.5° but in Draw setting, so counter acts the open face
What’s the make of the launch monitor ? Cheers 👍
Full swing
You need to cut back on your coffee consumption. Lol
Very interesting - personally I would be afraid to tinker as I wouldn’t remember where I had altered it from. Also I would not trust myself to screw the shaft back in correctly. Leave it to the experts or your teaching pro. Overall would love to experiment and save cost of new driver but scared I would not achieve what I wanted and wasted my time if I did it myself.
Tinker away, it's all trial and error. You'll understand more about your game
Screw the shaft back in correctly lol. It’s easier than changing a light bulb
Was fitted for Ping G430. Result G 430 max 12 degrees. Can’t hit it as well as older Callaway driver. Certainly shorter and right. Just sold the Ping for substantial loss.
@@jamespark3399 So how did you get fitted to a driver that didn’t work on the course? I would have gone back to the fitter. We need to start holding these guys accountable to their fittings!
I will definitely try turning it down, my ball goes very high like your first drive. Thank you.
Closed face or not, there's another key factor; angle of attack/swing path. A 20 degree driver😮 with a severe negative angle of attack/out to in path will still slice.
The whole hog is an idiom that first went on record in Japhet by Frederick Marryat.
I’m Left Handed Ping Max 425 driver, with Right Handed adjustment, is it a straight forward reverse ,?
Adding loft opens the face says Tom Wishon!
Does this work with the Callaway AI Smoke adaptor??
If you square your club face, does that negate the changes?
Does this work with the AI Smoke Callaway adapter ??
Great shirt. I'm going to start wearing more animal prints during golf.
Get a senior shaft to go left
My x hot Callaway has open, neutral and closed. I have it set at neutral. I haven't tried the other settings. Instead I am focusing on a better swing path.
Your energy levels and delivery of information is like listening to a hype man for a speed freak chatter non stop on +10 playback speed. Simmer down son. A million edits in a 10 min video is painful to boot
Why not just buy draw bias driver
This could be 5 minutes video if he just gets to the point and stop talking too much.
Yes, sorry Alex but ur like a motor mouth on steroids
Yep agreed, please stop waffling and get to the bloody point Alex!
Lol agree on some drugs
So what...
You miss the point - Alex makes what could be super boring into an entertaining video😊
Just get custom fit !!
I feel dizzy 😵
I watch every video that tells me about that ONE big MISTAKE I shouldn’t be missing.
I bought a ping 425 a few years ago , I still can’t hit it , I use a 5 iron now 😢
LOL, My Driver does not have any thing to change
My 3 Wood does, it is the only club I have with any options like this
What’s your driver, just out of curiosity?
Ritalin works for some people.
If you loft down, you do not open the face
I think this might be the most irritating golf coach on TH-cam. Sorry mate, tone it down a bit
Thanks bob how lovely of you
Guy needs a valium….
Why not buy a 9 1/2 degree with a draw face and skip the messing around?
What if im broke and can't afford one of these awesome new drivers
@@georgesimmons4923 You can usually buy one online that is almost new and about half the cost. I have never paid full retail. Prices are stupid high and there is very little gain. Better off getting lessons and optimizing your current driver.
Save money up
@@randyposs6281 I'll get right on that lmao. 2 children under the age of 10 on one income with all the things that come along now days takes up all of my funds. I can't make them go without just so I can play a game I love. Maybe in another life I'll be able to afford it lol
Taylormade M1 or M2 driver second hand. Job done!
@@Brendan77132 Agreed! Never any reason to buy a new driver.
Just do it instead of all the flapping,
You guys don’t see the problem……..
His story about the guy slicing the ball, the fix should have been his swing…. The driver adjustments didn’t really fix his swing….. He is still slicing the ball, but you can’t tell, and chances are that he is slicing his irons.
This is just another quick fix gimmick, if you have a good swing fine tuning will benefit you, but if you slice the ball or hook it, then what good is it?
Fix your swing first.
I agree with you, but you have to admit that this could be a small part of eliminating one's slice. Our swing is made up of different elements that have to be fined tuned just like a musical instrument to find the sweet spot😎
As a fitter, I agree it is always the swing and I always show people the problem but I would estimate that over half of my fittings don’t either have the time (work family) or the desire to fix their swing and want as much help as possible out of the club. Any good fitter will find out what the players perspective on this is and then proceed accordingly.
You might also be surprised how many tour players don’t play their drivers in the neutral position.
@@golfranchshop552Not surprised at all. I would never expect them to swing a stock setting on a driver. The tour player is a different being. They are looking for the optimum settings that will benefit their game.
@@stevenwhiting8941 which was my point. The same for a player that misses a certain way because of his motion wants a setting or club that will optimize his game as well without changing his motion.
Also remember, when you change the loft, you also change the grip position. If you use a grip with aligning built in, it won't feel right in your hands.
That jumping from camera angle to camera angle every three seconds almost gave me seizures. I couldn't concentrate on any of the hurried through explanations. You get into some Meth?
Loft settings can be a dangerous path, buy the driver that Suits to begin with. Changing loft, can open or close the face, you lose control of your accuracy, if you get fitted correctly, the driver set up will suit your swing, speed and plane. This video opens Pandora’s box, ignore it
Ur demonstration means nothing to a below average golfer such as a senior with D swing speed below 90.
I’m 72, swing D at 90ish (slower as round proceeds and I get tired).
I’ve been fit for a 10.5 degree moved up to 12 degrees. I also use a high flying ball TITLEIST pro V1 X.
The combination gives me more carry and a draw which will roll out better than a weak low fade.
Really surprised u give no real world advice for ur audience such as “I’m a pro” and my results have nothing to do with yours😂
What this man does not understand is that swing speed determines how much loft you should have on your driver. The best analogy is a hosepipe----the water might carry a certain number of feet or yards, but if you reduce the water pressure you need to elevate the hosepipe to retain the same carry distance. The same applies to swing speed.
It is a shame this man does not understand simple physics, but then he's not exactly well educated.
I’m called Alex btw
Yes to much chat
Very interesting and informative,your just very annoying the way you present it.
“You’re”
And don’t be daft.
Amateur golfers having a key and changing their club settings isn't a good thing. Go to a pro. Have a lesson. Let them set it up for you. Throw away the key......
You couldn't be more wrong
The video style is awful with all the jumping every few seconds. Had to stop watching.
Agree 100%!!...edited to death and he sounds and acts like one of those late night infomercial salesmen
Go to a fitter. Don't listen to "TH-cam experts"