Chapters (Powered by ChapterMe) - 00:00 - Coming up 00:43 - Intro: Is this the best time to start a tech company? 06:27 - How Sam got into YC 10:53 - The early days of YC Research 12:49 - Getting the first OpenAI team together 17:13 - Why scaling was considered heretical 21:42 - Conviction can be powerful 26:15 - Commercializing GPT-4 28:53 - What drew Sam to create Loopt 30:24 - Learning from platform shifts 33:15 - Tech incumbents are unaware of what is happening with AI 34:08 - Sam's recommended startup path 36:56 - Reflecting on the OpenAI drama 39:58 - What startups are building with current models 44:16 - Advice for early founders + final thoughts 46:12 - What's to come in 2025? 46:41 - Outro
No emoji can properly convey my deep LOL at this comment and two comments that followed right after. Tbh Garry’s voice also has a bit of fry to it. I’m just glad they don’t uptalk. Vocal fry + uptalk is really unbearable.
Loved this! 3 Takeaways: 1: "'More is more' beat 'less is more' in AI (the Age of Intelligence). There becomes a point when conventional wisdom is just wrong. What other accepted truths in your industry are waiting to be challenged?" 2. "What matters more than your first idea? - Your peer group. Find the people who make you think bigger, who challenge conventional wisdom, who believe in building the future. Find and align with them. That's your accelerator." 3. "Your 20s are an apprenticeship, but you don't know for what. Every 'failure' is actually preparation for opportunities you can't yet see. The mobile wave prepared founders for the AI wave." Or to put it as Steve Jobs did, "The dots connect themselves looking back."
Oof, am I reading one of those corporate motivational posters here? The level of convention used when folks try to explain or express the unconventional always astounds me. Definitely meant to console the human factor.
Sam speaks highly of Ilya in this interview, but OpenAI had a clause in their recent investment round that investors could not also invest in Ilya's company SSI. Remember, actions speak louder than words. Even though he praises Ilya, he wants to crush him.
Regarding Sam's comment on whether physics in its entirety will be solved soon, and he being happy for the person who does that, I have my doubts. For one thing particle physics is still unraveling and no one knows for how long that will continue, since there is this huge gap between the weak and the Planck scales, and it might well be that the unraveling continues right up to the Planck scale, which essentially means it's going to take forever. Apart from that no one would have the foggiest as to what a theory of quantum gravity ought to look like for a very very long time to come (again, possibly forever), simply because of the lack of experiments at the Planck scale. So physicists, mainly high energy folks, are merely kidding themselves if they think that the solution to physics is if not just around the corner, at least some time soon, and in my opinion, we might never be able to achieve it. But does that mean there is no point in doing physics any more, heck no, for the territory of theoretical condensed matter physics still lies uncharted with many experimental numbers yet to be explained, and it would do theorists a whole lot of good to hone their instruments on these. Even in high energy physics there are unsolved problems like coming up with analytical explanations for the phenomenon of confinement that are not numerical like lattice gauge theories, or the wealth of data that the JWST is revealing, and as well the explanations for dark matter and dark energy. AI could have a role to play in all this, for it thrives on large corpuses of data, and who knows, it might tease out the underlying equations governing these phenomena using the methods of something like SandboxAQ. So exciting times ahead.
key takeaway: somehow there was a belief that there were adults in charge someone who knew what was going on and someone had all the answers. And that if someone is pushing back its because they knew what was wrong / better than us. But the truth is these adults dont exist.
so many people are so blind to the huge losses of jobs even in very "thinking" and creative roles and the presenter thinks that making physical labour obsolete is a good thing.. it is insanity this will lead to HUGE civil disturbance ironically the developers will make themselves obsolete when the AI takes their roles too
@@learnbydoingwithsteven yup you're right. what exactly will happen when 1 person and 1000 GPUs run a company of sorts - well that's good for that person but who is he servicing to?? the dead? and will there be people to even buy his service since no ones earning now? why will anyone care about money in a world with no jobs? they will be like fuk AGI fuk altman fuk that company run by 1 person, I will plough my land and eat the food I grow. life would become as boring as AGI's face
As a broad AI investor I have nothing to worry about. I've been eyeing AI since 2019, but I only went long on it since January 2024. This entire field will end up becoming the backbone of our society.
@@CastleHassall Automation has always been a good thing in human history, when viewing it long term. There is no better time to live on earth other than today.
Such a great interview, love hearing the stories of deep learning, Ilya, and all the twists and turns that lead to the biggest best tech evolution ever!
I guess it depends on the bets, the thing is, he works with the greatest minds but there are a lot of people out there we should be skeptical of ;p conviction must be driven by knowledge and experience ..
Voice is not clear, I am unable to grab the content from Sam’s answers. Maybe you have change the mic being used. Anyway it’s good video I did hit like button. 👍
How could it come next year, when they can’t even fix hallucinations, need tons of people to test and fix prompts, etc. They are so far from General intelligence as they were 10 years ago
@@VoloBonja If it keeps people and investors hyped up, they'll do what they can to keep them on board How can people believe in release dates such as these when it's so common for them to be pushed back, I'm sure people here know about how much Elon does it
Good to hear that you're now attained product clarity (of your A.I. trajectory from here on) after putting it out on open source platform to gather meaningful feedback & input → would definitely shape the New Kind of Jobs spawned from current wave of A.I. boom henceforth.
I've been following Sam since around 2015, and it did not use to be so freaking impossible to listen to him. What the hell happened, and why aren't anyone telling him it's impossible to endure for more than a few minutes?
@@murc111The world is full of problems, many of them unknown. But one that might give you a sense of urgency is global warming. For me, I just don’t want to suffer in this bleak world-AGI is my last hope. Whether it leads to a dystopian world or death, I have nothing to lose, just like most people.
@@anandchoure1343HAHAHAHAHAH i feel kinda bad for you but honestly, its all your own fault. You actually, genuinely, whole heartedly believe that global warming is making your life specifically not worth living until its solved? Please, get a life, be present, focus on whats actually happening in YOUR reality and stop worrying about something that someone else is telling you to worry about, which you have zero influence over.
If being surrounded by uninspiring people is what you want, then join a fortune 500 company. If you want the opposite then as Sam said, you must be deliberate on where you go.
I agree with him in that regard corporate life. We'll give you a bunch of people who just did enough. To become a system, Cog. In a wheel of corporate. Bullshit
it depends on what you want .. I already have a family and enough wealth for my needs .. Fortune 500 seems perfect for me but I went even further (public sector) .. best for work life balance and limited stress .. I have the skills to create and manage a startup, I already did it, but I really did not care in the end and I sold my shares .. I prefer having time to explore whatever I want than to be locked in satisfying the needs of a market/clients
@@jean-phil You are supporting Sam's point. You deliberately seek a place of work where the workload is less because its what you want. Most young people want to do great things and I am 100% certain that a company with an easier workload is not where people go to do great and inspiring work.
Sam outlines the progression of AI systems from level one chatbots to level five AGI, envisioning a future where AI-powered companies operate with minimal human workforce.
Straight people are gonna hate you Sam but I love you! 🎉🎉🎉🎉 A gay guy breaking down all the walls meant to surround and box him in! He had the guts to ask, why do things have to stay the same! From Allen to Sam! Making me proud 😢
When people talk about “fixing the climate” are they talking about controlling the weather? Do people literally want to put a thermostat on the thermodynamics of the planet?? I don’t understand that. Are they wanting to create a closed system? Is it possible? Is it desirable? Will cities of the future be enclosed because people have zero tolerance for weather and are unprepared for it? Will the weather of the future be too much for the average life forms of our time? Seems like there’s a lot of weather control going on now…. Is it helping or making things worse?
Really great interview. I think the video version could be even better with less cutting - the pauses, the breathers, the silences. Let it be real, or as real as possible.
AI is already capable of replacing so many job roles it's crazily bad how naeive so many people are about the fact that in a few years most of us, even strategists and presenterS etc will be replaced by AI i really wish people would wake up to the risks of this for our ability to have careers in fields we love
It's not a far thought. There was a person in 50s called "Jobber" whose work was to insert the punch cards in slot and prevent jams. It's been completely automated by modern OS. The automated organisation is not really a far thought. Oasis is going to be real (Ready Player One reference).
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Chapters (Powered by ChapterMe) -
00:00 - Coming up
00:43 - Intro: Is this the best time to start a tech company?
06:27 - How Sam got into YC
10:53 - The early days of YC Research
12:49 - Getting the first OpenAI team together
17:13 - Why scaling was considered heretical
21:42 - Conviction can be powerful
26:15 - Commercializing GPT-4
28:53 - What drew Sam to create Loopt
30:24 - Learning from platform shifts
33:15 - Tech incumbents are unaware of what is happening with AI
34:08 - Sam's recommended startup path
36:56 - Reflecting on the OpenAI drama
39:58 - What startups are building with current models
44:16 - Advice for early founders + final thoughts
46:12 - What's to come in 2025?
46:41 - Outro
We need an AI that unfries Sam's voice so that I can listen him
usa made ai doesnt know how to un-fry
He sounds like a flying pan literally OMG
Omg LMAOOOOOO
No emoji can properly convey my deep LOL at this comment and two comments that followed right after.
Tbh Garry’s voice also has a bit of fry to it. I’m just glad they don’t uptalk. Vocal fry + uptalk is really unbearable.
@@bearchow1723 You nailed it.
Loved this! 3 Takeaways:
1: "'More is more' beat 'less is more' in AI (the Age of Intelligence).
There becomes a point when conventional wisdom is just wrong.
What other accepted truths in your industry are waiting to be challenged?"
2. "What matters more than your first idea? - Your peer group.
Find the people who make you think bigger, who challenge conventional wisdom, who believe in building the future. Find and align with them.
That's your accelerator."
3. "Your 20s are an apprenticeship, but you don't know for what.
Every 'failure' is actually preparation for opportunities you can't yet see.
The mobile wave prepared founders for the AI wave."
Or to put it as Steve Jobs did, "The dots connect themselves looking back."
Oof, am I reading one of those corporate motivational posters here? The level of convention used when folks try to explain or express the unconventional always astounds me. Definitely meant to console the human factor.
I liked the point about conviction on seeing a single idea through.
Quarterly planing cycles trend too!
Sam speaks highly of Ilya in this interview, but OpenAI had a clause in their recent investment round that investors could not also invest in Ilya's company SSI.
Remember, actions speak louder than words. Even though he praises Ilya, he wants to crush him.
just dropped everything to watch this video...the car will drive it self
a real treat indeed
Maybe it will,give it a try
This is the car talking. Im driving now
Regarding Sam's comment on whether physics in its entirety will be solved soon, and he being happy for the person who does that, I have my doubts. For one thing particle physics is still unraveling and no one knows for how long that will continue, since there is this huge gap between the weak and the Planck scales, and it might well be that the unraveling continues right up to the Planck scale, which essentially means it's going to take forever. Apart from that no one would have the foggiest as to what a theory of quantum gravity ought to look like for a very very long time to come (again, possibly forever), simply because of the lack of experiments at the Planck scale. So physicists, mainly high energy folks, are merely kidding themselves if they think that the solution to physics is if not just around the corner, at least some time soon, and in my opinion, we might never be able to achieve it. But does that mean there is no point in doing physics any more, heck no, for the territory of theoretical condensed matter physics still lies uncharted with many experimental numbers yet to be explained, and it would do theorists a whole lot of good to hone their instruments on these. Even in high energy physics there are unsolved problems like coming up with analytical explanations for the phenomenon of confinement that are not numerical like lattice gauge theories, or the wealth of data that the JWST is revealing, and as well the explanations for dark matter and dark energy. AI could have a role to play in all this, for it thrives on large corpuses of data, and who knows, it might tease out the underlying equations governing these phenomena using the methods of something like SandboxAQ. So exciting times ahead.
Took 8 months. Solved all that and more. Me and my ai team 😊
This is incredible. Sam Altman has been on the other side of the interview . Now he is the one on top🔥
I feel insanely lucky to have interest in YC. Their content feels like such a big cheat-code for the future of entrepreneurs. Thank you YC!
That's great! What have you found particularly useful in this video?
key takeaway:
somehow there was a belief that there were adults in charge someone who knew what was going on and someone had all the answers. And that if someone is pushing back its because they knew what was wrong / better than us. But the truth is these adults dont exist.
so many people are so blind to the huge losses of jobs even in very "thinking" and creative roles
and the presenter thinks that making physical labour obsolete is a good thing.. it is insanity
this will lead to HUGE civil disturbance
ironically the developers will make themselves obsolete when the AI takes their roles too
Both are experienced CEO of YC! 👑
Thanks. This has been the most useful interview I've seen in my long life
The density of great universities, talents, startup culture, is so crucial for new tech to thrive anywhere.
The irony is, that this technology ushers the end of human startup culture and entrepreneurship.
@ Road to AGI is a long way to go. Until then the capability is still limited. But, we do need some guardrails to limit the negative societal impacts.
@@learnbydoingwithsteven yup you're right. what exactly will happen when 1 person and 1000 GPUs run a company of sorts - well that's good for that person but who is he servicing to?? the dead? and will there be people to even buy his service since no ones earning now? why will anyone care about money in a world with no jobs? they will be like fuk AGI fuk altman fuk that company run by 1 person, I will plough my land and eat the food I grow. life would become as boring as AGI's face
🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷👏🏻, What a story for the beginning of OpenAI! My gosh, that was truly a blessed moment in time. Impressive!
Just gotta say the production quality on these videos is fantastic... Love your lighting and set. Just *chef's kiss*
😄
As a broad AI investor I have nothing to worry about. I've been eyeing AI since 2019, but I only went long on it since January 2024. This entire field will end up becoming the backbone of our society.
it'll destroy so many jobs.. but you don't care about that
@@CastleHassall Automation has always been a good thing in human history, when viewing it long term. There is no better time to live on earth other than today.
It won't and you clearly don't understand the buzzword that is AI.
@@Toqom Feel free to bet against my position. I welcome you to try profit of your personal view.
The selective vocal fry is very distracting.
What is selective vocal fry?
its so irritating
@@markknoop777 vocal fry is when his voice has that dry crackling undertone (13:22). Whenever his pitch goes up (0:54, 1:08) - it goes away.
I never knew this was a thing. Loads of people talk like this.
he’s been busy building digital god. give him a break.
Such a great interview, love hearing the stories of deep learning, Ilya, and all the twists and turns that lead to the biggest best tech evolution ever!
One of the best video I found lately.
Insigtful video. Thanks for inviting Sam Altman.
Altman advocates for a high degree of conviction in one’s bets, even when faced with skepticism, as it can lead to breakthroughs that others may miss.
I guess it depends on the bets, the thing is, he works with the greatest minds but there are a lot of people out there we should be skeptical of ;p conviction must be driven by knowledge and experience ..
Thanks for sharing your excitement, experience and expertise!! Great interview.
Great to see this series back again!
More to come!
Voice is not clear, I am unable to grab the content from Sam’s answers. Maybe you have change the mic being used. Anyway it’s good video I did hit like button. 👍
Nice! Drop everything and watch this video. Studying can wait 😅
same LOL
Nice😂. What are you studying?@@ayoub8066
Love every second of this. Skip the cuts and keep it raw.
No Wrap!
i like this voice, its relaxing D: idk why everyone dislikes it
This is my last youtube video which I'm watching. I'm preparing for IIT jee exam if i will crack with good rank then I will be here after 210 day
always great to hear from Sam
The idea of AGI coming next year feels daunting
At $2,000 per million tokens
It won't come next year, and if it does, won't have impacts on society for a while
How could it come next year, when they can’t even fix hallucinations, need tons of people to test and fix prompts, etc.
They are so far from General intelligence as they were 10 years ago
@@VoloBonja If it keeps people and investors hyped up, they'll do what they can to keep them on board
How can people believe in release dates such as these when it's so common for them to be pushed back, I'm sure people here know about how much Elon does it
I love sam the way he is thinking since he join as a president of YC
Thank you! Amazing interview!
Love from Montreal❤
Good to hear that you're now attained product clarity (of your A.I. trajectory from here on) after putting it out on open source platform to gather meaningful feedback & input → would definitely shape the New Kind of Jobs spawned from current wave of A.I. boom henceforth.
Awesome Interview
this is great thank you Gary...but I think linking the essay would make it better, thank you again
0:32 that’s why I’m so excited about start-ups right now, the world is still sleeping on most of this
To an astonishing degree
That vocal fry, bruh
😵💫🥴
I've been following Sam since around 2015, and it did not use to be so freaking impossible to listen to him. What the hell happened, and why aren't anyone telling him it's impossible to endure for more than a few minutes?
like a woman
I’m having a hard time listening to this because of the vocal fry
WHAT DID ILYA SEE
I enjoy every interview Sam does
Is this what RFKJ sounded like when he was 30? 😂
he needs to lubricate his oesophogus
Hahahaha 😂
@@muhsinkhalif3621 LMAOFAO
Great interview!
What a inspired man. How he changed enitre world work culture
"A person with 1000 gpu's", just excited me
Please get to AGI soon. Feels like were running out of time.
In what way? (no BS, real question)
@@murc111The world is full of problems, many of them unknown. But one that might give you a sense of urgency is global warming. For me, I just don’t want to suffer in this bleak world-AGI is my last hope. Whether it leads to a dystopian world or death, I have nothing to lose, just like most people.
AGI alone won't save us. The use of it and how we'll structure society with it is the real problem. It's a dystopia / utopia crossroad
@@anandchoure1343HAHAHAHAHAH i feel kinda bad for you but honestly, its all your own fault. You actually, genuinely, whole heartedly believe that global warming is making your life specifically not worth living until its solved? Please, get a life, be present, focus on whats actually happening in YOUR reality and stop worrying about something that someone else is telling you to worry about, which you have zero influence over.
Running out of time? Tell me 3 things that you are not able to because there is no AGI today. Don’t understand this hunger for some bs.
Sam is back! It's midnight now, but I'm gonna watch it before I go to sleep.
This is underrated
Did he just say AGI at 46:12 ???? In 2025? thats crazy.
Slipped lol
Bruh
I think he meant that he’s excited to work on it more in 2025
if we scale o1 it becomes AGI
@@indrajith747 nah
Thank you for doing this!
🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷👏🏻, I try to watch everything Sam Altman has to say...
Priceless interview
The main point. We have the technology.
Aligning human motivations is THE limiting factor to human accomplishment.
Not wearing socks in your shoes at an interview is crazy.
Why? It's a thing.
Link to Essay?
The Sam Altman vocal fry though.. 😵💫
Great conversation thanks for sharing, after watching I get more desire to hanging out at YC with folks
If being surrounded by uninspiring people is what you want, then join a fortune 500 company. If you want the opposite then as Sam said, you must be deliberate on where you go.
I agree with him in that regard corporate life. We'll give you a bunch of people who just did enough. To become a system, Cog. In a wheel of corporate. Bullshit
it depends on what you want .. I already have a family and enough wealth for my needs .. Fortune 500 seems perfect for me but I went even further (public sector) .. best for work life balance and limited stress .. I have the skills to create and manage a startup, I already did it, but I really did not care in the end and I sold my shares .. I prefer having time to explore whatever I want than to be locked in satisfying the needs of a market/clients
@@jean-phil You are supporting Sam's point. You deliberately seek a place of work where the workload is less because its what you want. Most young people want to do great things and I am 100% certain that a company with an easier workload is not where people go to do great and inspiring work.
@@staytuned.263OpenAI is no different
Great discussion...
Sam Altman voice isn't that clear. please work on the mic quality.
Also, thanks for bringing this video up.
It’s not the mic problem, it’s his annoying vocal fry tone 🎤
Thank you 😊
Sam outlines the progression of AI systems from level one chatbots to level five AGI, envisioning a future where AI-powered companies operate with minimal human workforce.
This episode is so awesome.
Sam's voice would be easier to listen to if he used one of those voice boxes that smokers with throat cancer use
Straight people are gonna hate you Sam but I love you! 🎉🎉🎉🎉 A gay guy breaking down all the walls meant to surround and box him in! He had the guts to ask, why do things have to stay the same! From Allen to Sam! Making me proud 😢
Great duo!
When people talk about “fixing the climate” are they talking about controlling the weather? Do people literally want to put a thermostat on the thermodynamics of the planet?? I don’t understand that. Are they wanting to create a closed system? Is it possible? Is it desirable? Will cities of the future be enclosed because people have zero tolerance for weather and are unprepared for it? Will the weather of the future be too much for the average life forms of our time? Seems like there’s a lot of weather control going on now…. Is it helping or making things worse?
The wall for ASI is quantum computing. No quantum computing = no ASI
Sam has Kawasaki dirt bike voice
😄
Dude. What mic is that!
this guy will change the future ....and he is changing it ....
Really great interview. I think the video version could be even better with less cutting - the pauses, the breathers, the silences. Let it be real, or as real as possible.
Congratulations 🎉
The vocal fry is real. I'm going to do a ChatGPT summarization and just read the highlights.
Thank you for posting.
He's the best ❤
great job!
AI is already capable of replacing so many job roles
it's crazily bad how naeive so many people are about the fact that in a few years most of us, even strategists and presenterS etc will be replaced by AI
i really wish people would wake up to the risks of this for our ability to have careers in fields we love
more frying going on here than in the back of a mcdonalds
More bull going on here than a rodeo
Sam has started series and sam is back again
Sam gave his best interview yet to YC 🥹
for reference, thousands of days could be 2.7 years or 27 years away.
Am I the only one not at all bothered by his voice?
No I thought I’ll comment this after finishing the video but then comment section was the same comment from everyone lol
Great interview
He's inspiring❤
The guy is a genius!! 😍
I can already see the TH-cam click bait coming “Sam Altman said AGI 2025”
He literally did say that. It's coming.
Will AI eat your dog in 2025?!
That is what he said tho
Can we submit product demo video after deadline?
This was a great and insightful video, or whatever 💁🏾♂️
The vocal fry king is back!
So cool and full circle to see Sam being interviewed on the other side now.
Where can I find Sam’s essays
This is lit!
I wish the podcaster had used some AI filter to smoothen his voice while recording this
It's not a far thought. There was a person in 50s called "Jobber" whose work was to insert the punch cards in slot and prevent jams. It's been completely automated by modern OS. The automated organisation is not really a far thought. Oasis is going to be real (Ready Player One reference).
4k uploads before agi please YC.
If a ventriloquist doll spoke with a vocal fry…
46:12 AGI? he said AGI?
Funny how his first response was AGI, then had to think for a few seconds and then decided it was his kid lol
@@cosmic5241 He's married to a man. I guess its easy to forget about the toys someone else made without your involvement.
@@wadetate1 xD
And only 0.002% of the world's population watched the video xD
Sam Altman’s voice could be used to test a surround sound technology.
😂
Most of the world still does not understand the value of like a fairly extreme level of conviction on one bet.
Hi! We want a wonderful future!
The headlines: "Sam said we will have AGI by 2025"