That is one sexy handheld that X1 Mini! I like the balance between how more convenient that it can be as a gaming handheld while still retaining a good essence of being a laptop and a tablet. Great video, thanks!
So happy to see these reviews. Great job on both. I was surprised you liked the controllers, because that right thumbstick looks unusable to me. It's the main reason I haven't pulled the trigger on the X1.
I think honestly it’s the games I play, I don’t often have to swap between joysticks and buttons. After reading a few comments I tried the controller again and can see where people are coming from. I think I’m just used to playing on handhelds and the Nintendo switch that I’ve adapted
1Net simply needs to make better controllers for the X1 - We've all discussed this in the discord. Basically copy the Steam deck layout - Bigger controls allows for better spacing, alignment (especialy for D-pad and right thumbstick). better balance for the whole unit because it is both top and bottom heavy. The new controls allow for = 2 x trackpads, 4 x back buttons/pedals would like 1Net to sell either as premium extras (don't be afraid to charge significantly more) - have 4 x shoulder buttons (still keep 2 x triggers) - have 4 x macro buttons next to the 4 x shoulder buttons (something similar to Ayaneo's handhelds) - blue tooth If at all possible can be used without a bridge connector. quality test to make sure of a sturdy connection to the tablet and not loose like many of us are experiencing. Charge a lot more if needed. This is a premium top of the top handheld after all.
I personally was cool with the controllers but after reading some comments I can see where people are coming from. I purposely didn’t watch any reviews or read input from others before the review to go in blind. I would personally like a little thicker grips
Both X1's are too clunky looking for my tastes. I still love my og gpd win mini. Hope somebody designs upgraded sticks, they get the job done but I feel they can be improved. I mean they are the same as the Win Max2.
@@okestgamer Ha ha, I already wore out the left stick 😅. I'll probably need to locate a new part soon. You definitely get used to playing on the Mini without grips. Been playing the 1st descendant a lot. Frame Generation rocks.
Yeah it’s a pretty cool device. I am mailing onward to another guy today, so further testing from me will be delayed until my personal one I’m planning to buy comes in (probably larger X1)
Other improvements many of us have discussed in Discord we would like to see for the X2 or later generation X series. - built in kickstand - like the Legion Go or Microsoft Surface Go - 8TB internal SSD support AND 8TB expandable slot support - bigger trackpad on keyboard - if possible, haptics like the MacBook and better spread-out touch - USB-C placement bottom side left of the device for in laptop use, top top left (to allow bigger controller), the right-side USB-A and micro-SD slot may also need to be moved bottom side right and top top right. USB 4.2 hopefully would be available by then with its purported 80Gbps speed meaning occulinc no longer required and freeing up physical space on the top of the device for those USB-C/A placements.
Legion Go Controllers are a super comfy disaster, these are just as comfy but the LG constantly touching things when you don't want or no responsive when you do. Viture glasses are great for all these I agree completely One of my favourite machines the win max almost but it gave me almost permanent carpal tunnel but an amazing machine some not bad 3D printed grips which make thing much better but thumb track balls and rpgs are on of the best use cases for that swiss army knife of machines(skyrim on line etc) for me the mini is the best i have trie, so far, comfort and almost all a round i have only has the mini a couple of weeks but it prob equal to place with th gpd win min with the for factor AND clam shell, bosh in your pocket! I want to try the x1 now... my wife is going to kill me. as someone said earlier imagine 5 years! My wife will have definitely killed me for digital digresion by then. edit : soz mate great review btw!!
Thanks man, and pro tip, pickup one case/bag to store the handheld in and she will never know the difference lol. Tomtocs steam deck sling bag is the key
@@okestgamer do you actually own the onexmin? And the win min 2024? And what do you recon between the two? I can never make a final decision like I go from loving one to the other just slightly more then then back again there’s normally based around practicality and therefore foreign facts so but I will be curious of your opinion. Also what are your favourite games to play on these devices?
Excellent video!! I have a quick question tho, does your controller connector discharge battery at an alarming rate? Mine can be fully charged and set aside and left unused for a few days and as soon as i turn it on the light is flashing indicating super low battery power
I had noticed that my connector had died a couple of times. Later I fully charged it and then it seemed fine. I will say I did not get a chance to test that part out further. I'll have to see with my Intel X1 if that is the case with the connector
@@okestgamer ya I mean it's kinda nuts how much of the battery gets discharged without it even being used, going unused a couple of days after being freshly fully charged and as soon as I turn it on the blue light starts flashing in those 1/2 sec intervals to indicate super low battery, it's kinda disheartening and a real bummer 😞
@@okestgamer exactly what I've been wondering also, I was hoping to get a better sense of it after asking about ur experience with it, pls lemme kno the results of ur research after the experiment is complete 🤓😂
So im looking for a handheld. If i would describe what i want, it is exactly like the x1 mini. Im looking for a handheld with a oculink port for egpu, but strong enough as a handheld. Litterely the only thing holding me back is the screen, why 1600p on a size like this? Why not a 1080p with a 120 hrz and olet. It would have better performance, better battery life etc.
@okestgamer you are definitely right about that. I am on the point of buying it, but the company is holding me back now. I hear their support is really bad, and updates take ages, and software doesn't properly work. But i also hear alot of good stories..
Naw 1080p makes a huge difference, stop selling yourself short with things you heard from some tech magazines to make people feel better about not getting 1080p on their 800 dollar portable.
@@sloth1992 handhelds cant handle new games at 1080p hence I said that... and even with frame gen you need atleast a locked 30 to get a smooth 60... 720p or Even 900p with 30 fps lock and lsfg is good for now... all these handheld consoles will get obsolete in a year or two with new demanding games coming in
Hey! Did you ever install tighter modules on the controller for the sticks? I feel like they are way too loose and I’d like to upgrade them if possible.
I did, it worked great! I actually managed to damage one of the ribbon cable tabs due to a stupid mistake which is why I didn’t record the process. Fixed it with some redneck engineering and I’m back in business. Works great though. Grab the link from my “tighter joysticks” video for the legion Go. It will make a big difference
@@okestgamer thank you so much!!! I will do that. I just did a review on the x1 on my other channel called Gamer Vs Tech. The joysticks were my biggest complaint.
How do the controllers feel as far as wobble goes on these devices? When the original x1 came out ppl said that the controllers wobbled when connected to the device. Did onex fix this with these models? Looking at buying one.
@@okestgamer sweet. I get the 32 gb tomorrow. Surprised to find the 8840 u version on Amazon where I live. Makes me feel way more comfortable with the return of if I have to. But I have many OXP devices and I’ve kept them all.
@@okestgamer x1mini🔥im from Philippines money is hard.. But im a born gamer(my stress killer) im 46years old now and having tough time but still life must play lile a game.. Start pause play win
@@okestgamer Ohh yeah my fault, I was looking at the intel one. The amd one starts at $1,089.00. It's still too expensive. I got my used 512gb steam deck for 250eur.
@@CombatMonkey11B not for all of the secondary activities I use some of my handhelds for. I also play often attached to my egpu so 1600p ends up becoming handy in my use case.
@@okestgamer an EGPU will help nearly any of the handhelds dock up for higher resolution and better framerates. In handhelds mode though, which is the primary function, that’s a 1080p chip. Anything above that is a waste that spreads the GPU portion too thin in most modern games. I’m not saying the handheld itself is bad, just that a display like on the ROG Ally/X would leave more headroom. There’s no way to debate against that in raw game performance. We can argue all day about eGPUs and standalone monitors, but that’s not the typical use case. Very few people are spending $600 or much more on an eGPU so they can still be anchored to a desk.
No it's not a joke lol, it's a early first look review. With this review I get the device for a short period to do some testing and filming so the more detailed performance tests will need to wait until I get my device I'm purchasing. Fan noise is also entirely dependent on what settings you use, and if you set a custom fan curve. Closest comparison I can make is with the legion Go for the noise. First look reviews are literally that, a first look and some early testing. Detailed reviews I only put out after using a device for awhile to actually test it out fully. I suggest joining on of the weekly live streams hosted in the onexplayer discord to get more specific questions answered. I also hosted one for a couple of hours where we had gone through answering questions people had.
Lets go @OKestGamer 🔥 ..... One think i do HATE is when people do game testing with FSR, DLSS or XESS Enabled. It really doesn't represent the true performance of the console.
I try to do a mix of keeping settings basic, but also representing how people will actually use the device. Main thing is being transparent about settings
@@okestgamer Its good to get the real performance of the console and maybe do a separate segments with enhancement, this is a flaw lots of reviewers do.
A lot of gamers will use some form of upscaling or frame gen whenever they are gaming on a PC handheld (at least in demanding AAA titles). That's simply because the SoC's are somewhat lacking when it comes to overall performance and the low amount of frame rates they typically put out. One saving grace about using upscaling on them, is that any artifacting that you typically get from using it, is far less visually noticible on thier smaller displays, than it is on a larger display. If anything, it's actually showing a good application of using upscaling. It's the kind of situation where upscaling should actually be used and where it is hugely beneficial for that extra boost to frame rates that it gives. So since most people will be using it, why on Earth wouldn't you show the typical kind of performance results that gamers could expect, when using it? Yep, I'd agree with you on a gaming/desktop PC with a dedicated GPU, where upscaling really isn't a nessesity and will often greatly skew any results. But on an PC heldheld, where upscaling is often a nessesity and where most people will likely be using it anyway, then I personally have no quarms when a review then shows off results, while using it.
I get that, they seem to refresh every 6 months. I’ve been doing TH-cam for just over a year and I started when the 6800 came out for handhelds, Now we have the 8840. Things move quick.
Okay you talked me into it. I just ordered the X1 10.9" Cant wait!
Nice! Hopefully you enjoy it. I enjoy the larger x1 mostly because of the laptop mode being pretty decent.
That is one sexy handheld that X1 Mini! I like the balance between how more convenient that it can be as a gaming handheld while still retaining a good essence of being a laptop and a tablet. Great video, thanks!
Thanks man, yeah it was a cool device to try out
So happy to see these reviews. Great job on both. I was surprised you liked the controllers, because that right thumbstick looks unusable to me. It's the main reason I haven't pulled the trigger on the X1.
I think honestly it’s the games I play, I don’t often have to swap between joysticks and buttons. After reading a few comments I tried the controller again and can see where people are coming from. I think I’m just used to playing on handhelds and the Nintendo switch that I’ve adapted
Another great and informative video! You make great points distinguishing the two devices. Your video makes me even more excited to receive my mini!
Thanks man, I'm sure you'll enjoy it
1Net simply needs to make better controllers for the X1 - We've all discussed this in the discord.
Basically copy the Steam deck layout - Bigger controls allows for better spacing, alignment (especialy for D-pad and right thumbstick). better balance for the whole unit because it is both top and bottom heavy.
The new controls allow for = 2 x trackpads, 4 x back buttons/pedals
would like 1Net to sell either as premium extras (don't be afraid to charge significantly more)
- have 4 x shoulder buttons (still keep 2 x triggers)
- have 4 x macro buttons next to the 4 x shoulder buttons (something similar to Ayaneo's handhelds)
- blue tooth
If at all possible can be used without a bridge connector.
quality test to make sure of a sturdy connection to the tablet and not loose like many of us are experiencing.
Charge a lot more if needed.
This is a premium top of the top handheld after all.
I personally was cool with the controllers but after reading some comments I can see where people are coming from. I purposely didn’t watch any reviews or read input from others before the review to go in blind. I would personally like a little thicker grips
Thanks a lot for your reviewing!! 🤩
No problem, thank you for the opportunity
Both X1's are too clunky looking for my tastes. I still love my og gpd win mini. Hope somebody designs upgraded sticks, they get the job done but I feel they can be improved. I mean they are the same as the Win Max2.
Just make the gaming session a part of your workout session and it’s all good lol
@@okestgamer Ha ha, I already wore out the left stick 😅. I'll probably need to locate a new part soon. You definitely get used to playing on the Mini without grips. Been playing the 1st descendant a lot. Frame Generation rocks.
Thks. Without Pen, it's noway. I Keep my LGO or I go For X1 ❤❤
The pen feature would be pretty nice
Great review. Looking forward to my X1 Mini shipping
Yeah it’s a pretty cool device. I am mailing onward to another guy today, so further testing from me will be delayed until my personal one I’m planning to buy comes in (probably larger X1)
Other improvements many of us have discussed in Discord we would like to see for the X2 or later generation X series.
- built in kickstand - like the Legion Go or Microsoft Surface Go
- 8TB internal SSD support AND 8TB expandable slot support
- bigger trackpad on keyboard - if possible, haptics like the MacBook and better spread-out touch
- USB-C placement bottom side left of the device for in laptop use, top top left (to allow bigger controller), the right-side USB-A and micro-SD slot may also need to be moved bottom side right and top top right.
USB 4.2 hopefully would be available by then with its purported 80Gbps speed meaning occulinc no longer required and freeing up physical space on the top of the device for those USB-C/A placements.
Those all sound pretty good. Only challenge with trackpad right now is the accidental presses when I hit space bar at times
Can you test versus Legion Go, Ally X, Other 8840u handheld?
Just ally x, the 84wh battery is a heavy plus. Legion go vs x1- x1 wins (either variant).
I wish I got the chance, unfortunately I had to pass it forward to.tje next person already. I'll have more tests once i can purchase a 8840u
Legion Go Controllers are a super comfy disaster, these are just as comfy but the LG constantly touching things when you don't want or no responsive when you do. Viture glasses are great for all these I agree completely One of my favourite machines the win max almost but it gave me almost permanent carpal tunnel but an amazing machine some not bad 3D printed grips which make thing much better but thumb track balls and rpgs are on of the best use cases for that swiss army knife of machines(skyrim on line etc) for me the mini is the best i have trie, so far, comfort and almost all a round i have only has the mini a couple of weeks but it prob equal to place with th gpd win min with the for factor AND clam shell, bosh in your pocket! I want to try the x1 now... my wife is going to kill me. as someone said earlier imagine 5 years! My wife will have definitely killed me for digital digresion by then. edit : soz mate great review btw!!
Thank you! Yes these handhelds can be addicting to try new ones, watch out for your wife's wrath haha
@@okestgamer thankfully she is not tech observant. One screen can look much like the other to the untrained eye. Excellent review mate!
Thanks man, and pro tip, pickup one case/bag to store the handheld in and she will never know the difference lol. Tomtocs steam deck sling bag is the key
@@okestgamer do you actually own the onexmin? And the win min 2024? And what do you recon between the two? I can never make a final decision like I go from loving one to the other just slightly more then then back again there’s normally based around practicality and therefore foreign facts so but I will be curious of your opinion. Also what are your favourite games to play on these devices?
I don't own the win mini or the X1 mini, the X1 mini was a loaner review unit, and unfortunately I have not tried the win mini yet.
Did you get the AMD X1 or the X1 mini? Which is better? Does the 120hz vs 144hz screen make a huge difference playing online?
I personally prefer the holding feel of the X1 mini, but the laptop functionality of the larger X1 definitely beats the mini. Depends on your priority
Excellent video!! I have a quick question tho, does your controller connector discharge battery at an alarming rate? Mine can be fully charged and set aside and left unused for a few days and as soon as i turn it on the light is flashing indicating super low battery power
I had noticed that my connector had died a couple of times. Later I fully charged it and then it seemed fine. I will say I did not get a chance to test that part out further. I'll have to see with my Intel X1 if that is the case with the connector
@@okestgamer ya I mean it's kinda nuts how much of the battery gets discharged without it even being used, going unused a couple of days after being freshly fully charged and as soon as I turn it on the blue light starts flashing in those 1/2 sec intervals to indicate super low battery, it's kinda disheartening and a real bummer 😞
@@According2AshShow I’ll give this a test. I’m wondering if yours is defective or if it’s a larger issue.
@@okestgamer exactly what I've been wondering also, I was hoping to get a better sense of it after asking about ur experience with it, pls lemme kno the results of ur research after the experiment is complete 🤓😂
12:44 hey that's not baldurs gate 3! lol
What do you mean? It’s the run and gun mod 😆
i ordered the mini
Nice! I’m leaning towards the larger X1 personally.
Much more interested in seeing how games perform at 800p
Yeah there are so many ways to test these, so you gotta pick one and run with it.
So im looking for a handheld. If i would describe what i want, it is exactly like the x1 mini. Im looking for a handheld with a oculink port for egpu, but strong enough as a handheld. Litterely the only thing holding me back is the screen, why 1600p on a size like this? Why not a 1080p with a 120 hrz and olet. It would have better performance, better battery life etc.
I wouldn’t let the screen hold you back. You can add 1080p with CRU and run games at 1080
@okestgamer you are definitely right about that. I am on the point of buying it, but the company is holding me back now. I hear their support is really bad, and updates take ages, and software doesn't properly work. But i also hear alot of good stories..
Good review. Keep up the great work.
Thanks man, appreciate the kind words
Nice review !
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it.
Thanks for your honest review
No problem, glad you enjoyed
Thanks 😊 great test thanks for your great test !
No problem man, glad you enjoyed it.
Nice review. The connector required for the off-console controller is really dumb. The idea is good, but the overall design is really bad.
Personally I like the feel of the controller on the connector, it's just oddly light compared to most controllers
Appreciate the review! 😎
Thank you! I'm glad I had the opportunity to review it.
720p fsr quality is sweet spot for handheld gaming...
Depends on the game. I’ve been using the FSR 3 mod for a lot of my games when I play.
Naw 1080p makes a huge difference, stop selling yourself short with things you heard from some tech magazines to make people feel better about not getting 1080p on their 800 dollar portable.
@@sloth1992 handhelds cant handle new games at 1080p hence I said that... and even with frame gen you need atleast a locked 30 to get a smooth 60... 720p or Even 900p with 30 fps lock and lsfg is good for now... all these handheld consoles will get obsolete in a year or two with new demanding games coming in
Hey! Did you ever install tighter modules on the controller for the sticks? I feel like they are way too loose and I’d like to upgrade them if possible.
I did, it worked great! I actually managed to damage one of the ribbon cable tabs due to a stupid mistake which is why I didn’t record the process. Fixed it with some redneck engineering and I’m back in business. Works great though. Grab the link from my “tighter joysticks” video for the legion Go. It will make a big difference
@@okestgamer thank you so much!!! I will do that. I just did a review on the x1 on my other channel called Gamer Vs Tech. The joysticks were my biggest complaint.
@@Elev8edtechking oh I’ll check it out. Drop the link. Best way to describe feeling with the tighter ones is that it feels similar to a steam deck
@@okestgamer youtube.com/@gamervstech?si=xLQfWzQMlTxdk29i
Nice, looks you’re well on your way for being a new channel
Hello. what do you think about making a drawing? I want to see the drawing program on it. is it good or not? OneXPlayer X1
I'm looking to get a stylus to try this out. It's what I've been wondering as well.
Can you choose in the BIOS Vram Assignation? and fully use the 32 Go of RAM?
Sorry missed your comment. I believe it was adjustable in the oneXconsole app
great review!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.
How do the controllers feel as far as wobble goes on these devices? When the original x1 came out ppl said that the controllers wobbled when connected to the device. Did onex fix this with these models? Looking at buying one.
These ones felt very tight, at least on my prototype
@@okestgamer which gb version did you test? 32 gb or 64gb? Do you think 32gb is enough for gaming?
I tested the 32gb. I think 32 is plenty
@@okestgamer sweet. I get the 32 gb tomorrow. Surprised to find the 8840 u version on Amazon where I live. Makes me feel way more comfortable with the return of if I have to. But I have many OXP devices and I’ve kept them all.
did you try the gape on 1080p or 720p? what was the performance there?
It is very similar to the ally and legion Go, maybe a couple frames above
Im poor 😢.. You almost had all the gaming handheld im in awe.
I’ve bought a few for the channel, they definitely aren’t cheap. Which one is your favourite?
@@okestgamer x1mini🔥im from Philippines money is hard.. But im a born gamer(my stress killer) im 46years old now and having tough time but still life must play lile a game.. Start pause play win
Can you confirm that the X1 non-mini has VRR FreeSync?
Apparently is doesn't.
@@NoMoreLies365 eta prime did a video which shows it does
I can take a look
No Iron Pikachu Colorway, NO DEAL.
Okay I've reconsidered, now that BG3 is an FPS.
You're just salty that you missed out on ordering that one before the campaign ended
@@okestgamer "Obviously" - Snape
I see no reason why they couldn't have had a bigger battery on the bigger model
My guess would be weight, but it would be cool to have a larger battery.
4real if the dog ally x can do 80wh the next version of the 11" needs to have a 80-99wh.
@@antwoneb.9829 for real
cost
@@draco2xx naw thats not a real reason
what is linux support like?
That part I haven't tested. I would suggest checking with the chimera team in their discord. Most likely they will know
pretty sure that wasn't baldur's gate ☠
It was the latest patch that introduced guns 😆. Thanks for pointing it out, I totally missed updating that title for Halo
x1 mini or win mini 2024?
I can’t speak to the win mini, but it does look pretty cool.
Personally I will skip mini 2024 because they removed the oculink port
@@roylee1134 yeah I'm not sure why they did that.
How much?
Starting at $949 USD on the campaign page
Are you out of your mind? 1500 buckaroos??!?
They start at $949 USD. What currency are you looking at?
@@okestgamer Ohh yeah my fault, I was looking at the intel one. The amd one starts at $1,089.00. It's still too expensive. I got my used 512gb steam deck for 250eur.
Too much resolution for that chip…
Not a problem with FSR. Smaller resolution is grainy on miniature text in Rpgs.
But when doing other things like watching videos or web browsing it’s kinda nice.
@@okestgamer A phone is superior for that purpose, and much lighter.
@@CombatMonkey11B not for all of the secondary activities I use some of my handhelds for. I also play often attached to my egpu so 1600p ends up becoming handy in my use case.
@@okestgamer an EGPU will help nearly any of the handhelds dock up for higher resolution and better framerates. In handhelds mode though, which is the primary function, that’s a 1080p chip. Anything above that is a waste that spreads the GPU portion too thin in most modern games. I’m not saying the handheld itself is bad, just that a display like on the ROG Ally/X would leave more headroom. There’s no way to debate against that in raw game performance. We can argue all day about eGPUs and standalone monitors, but that’s not the typical use case. Very few people are spending $600 or much more on an eGPU so they can still be anchored to a desk.
Looks like an April fools product.
Is this a joke? You review a handheld and only test it plugged in at 30 w? No word about the noise of the fans?
No it's not a joke lol, it's a early first look review.
With this review I get the device for a short period to do some testing and filming so the more detailed performance tests will need to wait until I get my device I'm purchasing. Fan noise is also entirely dependent on what settings you use, and if you set a custom fan curve. Closest comparison I can make is with the legion Go for the noise.
First look reviews are literally that, a first look and some early testing. Detailed reviews I only put out after using a device for awhile to actually test it out fully.
I suggest joining on of the weekly live streams hosted in the onexplayer discord to get more specific questions answered. I also hosted one for a couple of hours where we had gone through answering questions people had.
Lets go @OKestGamer 🔥 ..... One think i do HATE is when people do game testing with FSR, DLSS or XESS Enabled. It really doesn't represent the true performance of the console.
I try to do a mix of keeping settings basic, but also representing how people will actually use the device. Main thing is being transparent about settings
@@okestgamer Its good to get the real performance of the console and maybe do a separate segments with enhancement, this is a flaw lots of reviewers do.
@@nitmare64I’m calling FSR an enchantment from now on, thank you! 🪄
A lot of gamers will use some form of upscaling or frame gen whenever they are gaming on a PC handheld (at least in demanding AAA titles). That's simply because the SoC's are somewhat lacking when it comes to overall performance and the low amount of frame rates they typically put out. One saving grace about using upscaling on them, is that any artifacting that you typically get from using it, is far less visually noticible on thier smaller displays, than it is on a larger display.
If anything, it's actually showing a good application of using upscaling. It's the kind of situation where upscaling should actually be used and where it is hugely beneficial for that extra boost to frame rates that it gives.
So since most people will be using it, why on Earth wouldn't you show the typical kind of performance results that gamers could expect, when using it?
Yep, I'd agree with you on a gaming/desktop PC with a dedicated GPU, where upscaling really isn't a nessesity and will often greatly skew any results. But on an PC heldheld, where upscaling is often a nessesity and where most people will likely be using it anyway, then I personally have no quarms when a review then shows off results, while using it.
I think for the price over 1K for the last generation 780M graphics just isn’t worth it wait for the new AMD strix point
I get that, they seem to refresh every 6 months. I’ve been doing TH-cam for just over a year and I started when the 6800 came out for handhelds, Now we have the 8840. Things move quick.