I like tablets for drawing and reading comics, I like a laptop to write and work and I love playing games on a handheld. This 3 in 1 concept is an awesome solution for people like me. And I would say that it could be consider a 4 in 1 if you conect it to a tv or monitor to play games with friends.
It's a very capable device, I would advise you though, the screen doesn't have a digitizer like the X1 does. Meaning that active pens do not work, you have to use a capacitive one, still a working solution but you'll have no pressure point support and not as precise also. But yeah, 4-in-1, seems like the next step of evolution for OneXPlayer! 😂
@@chrismckenna6183 Such a timely question, I just reviewed a dock, the X1 Mini works fine with it and it’s HDMI 2.1: th-cam.com/video/v0ebZ3XBn14/w-d-xo.htmlsi=3vV3OsS-r-zz5jK2
@@chrismckenna6183 I mean, it's not light like a kindle or anything but I find that it is more than bearable, even more so if the controllers are removed to hold as you said like a tablet. I don't know that it would be my device of choice to indulge in 2-3 hours of reading, actually, it wouldn't be. But a 30mins between game sessions? Most definitely.
Awesome content as always... Interesting Device... It should have a full wide kickstand... ( Courtesy of MS Surface Pro) That little stick leg is a No No... and stylus support for the screen those Artists / Gamers could use it for Quick doodling or digital sketch pad... 🧐🤓
I kind of agree on the still leg, never been my favorite either but I'll command them on at least having put one that is made with sturdy metal. I'd still take a wide plastic one though. Cheers!
Appreciate the review! Love the controller ergonomics and screen size! Wish it had 4 extra back programmable back buttons like Xbox Elite controllers instead of only 2. that's the ONLY thing preventing me from getting it. thanks for showing the back side, their website doesn't show this.
Yeah, that would've sealed the deal for many I reckon. If the 2025 devices can come with OLED, I'll be happy to wait another year for VRR (personally) but if not, VRR shouldn't even be up for discussion at that point.
I know you to have a particular appreciation for fine craftsmanship both inside and out of devices so yes, I do think the X1 Mini would be right there in your wheelhouse. Cheers!
Great detailed video and apologies if I missed it. Are you able to confirm what stylus is compatible on both devices such as surface pens please? Thanks in advance.
I’m not home to double check and won’t be for about 2 weeks but I’m 95% sure that the X1 Mini does not support active type pens so only capacitive touch ones that are generic and simulate a finger touch. The X1s do support an active type pen that has up to 4096 pressure points and I did test both. Really good for artists with the right pen!
The Steam Deck has bigger sticks, you could easily address the ones on the X1 Mini with caps but by default, I'd say the Steam Deck sticks do feel superior.
OneXPlayer nailed it with the X1 line-up, not gonna lie. Or maybe it just fits my needs so perfectly but for now, they hold the crown, X1 or Mini, can't go wrong, just a question of preference is all.
The argument comes the fact that OLED has blazingly fast response time, which renders VRR nearly useless, for 1. For 2, colors and contrast are just off the charts in comparison. 3, because response time is so high, 90hz on OLED often feels more responsive (panel wise) than equivalent on LCD tech, last but not least, having a native lower resolution can also improve clarity when playing at said resolution. The Legion Go on the other end, if you lower signal to 800p, it's not as clear. I see your point, I really do, but whereas Legion Go/X1 Mini offer an overkill solution (which is my preference btw), from a technical, technological and logical point-of-view, the SD OLED panel is arguably best for what handheld primarily is designed for. At the end of the day though, you go with what is best for you, as I do for me. That is why my SD OLED has no more than honestly 5 hours played total. I already bested it with an X1 Mini I had for 5 days, that should tell you where I stand.
So if you had to compare performance and grapic whise which one would you pick asus rog ally extreme or the onexplayerx1 I'm just wondering cause I want to download farm sim 25 and want to go with the better performance and graphic option
The gap in difference between the X1 and X1 Mini are negligible to non-existent as they basically use exactly the same. The performance difference versus the ROG ALLY X would be indeed present but probably also very negligible despite being more prominent. What I would recommend ultimately is to still go ROG ALLY X because of VRR and landscape panel effectively making AFMF2 viable if there is the ability to use frame gen with the game you wish to play.
Hey, was wondering if you plan on getting your hands on flydigi's Vader 4 pro that just released. It looks really fucking good at $80 (lowkey makes apex 4 obsolete imo) but I haven't seen any deep dive reviews that actually care much about specs on it yet
It is with me currently, still wrapped. I'm still on the fence of it I want to do a hands-on video AND a deep-dive review. I might go straight to review but if so, I won't talk about it for a couple of days still. If you have specific questions, drop 'em here, I'll make sure to address when one or the other comes!
@@GameTechTalk Besides the obvious stuff like the joystick force rings and stats vs the other 1k polling controllers you compared in the controller roundup, it'd be really cool to see how the gyroscope's accuracy fares against the Vader 3 and Apex 4, and even other gyro sensors like the Edge or Guilikit. Maybe that's somewhere they cut costs as to not have this be the "Apex 4 Screenless Edition" 😭😭
In my sincere most opinion, yes. With that said, some people prefer to go for the convenient options from the local store and I absolutely understand that. There is extra layers of "friction" that come with those boutique-type handheld PCs. I have built a massive tolerance over the years and the reliability and quality have increased to unprecendented levels, so while it's still not as easy as ordering one on BestBuy that I can return within 30 days, it's still very much worth it. Still, not everyone would think the same and I can understand that too.
@@GameTechTalk thanks, I'm really tempted by the extra RAM and oculink port but concerned about support, warranty and overall polish. I also use fps mode on the go. Tough call for me. I'm leaning towards upgrading.
Yes, the ergonomics of the controller are pretty much an overall "universal" type of profile, think Xbox Series controller or Dualsense. The sticks might lack a bit of height for you but you can address that with cap sleeves. Overall, not only is it better than most other handhelds to that effect, It's in a completely different ballpark and one that I feel would overall be better suited for any type of gamer.
Better is subjective and I love them both but the X1 Mini strikes an overall better balance in my opinion. However, as someone that loves having the "most" when I can spec-wise, the panel on the X1 sure feels extra in the way that I like it. But I feel like I should point out, I am pretty certain that the X1 Mini and X1 both do not have VRR panel, and also both sport portrait panels. Not to want to dissuade or anything but it didn't sit right with me to not address it. Thanks for watching! 😊
It's an awesome tool for anyone making proper use of that feature. I'm equipped with a sick rig and I got to say, eGPU was fun with USB-C, but through Oculink, it actually made sense more than ever as a viable main solution. If that technology keeps growing the way it does, my current rig could be my last. That's how good it already is.
@@GameTechTalk yeah that'sy vision too. A small device to take to and from the office between docks, or for use in meetings and a powerful GPU dock at home for when things get serious. Being able to game between destinations is icing on the cake.
The First Descendant, it's a free-to-play that came out about a week ago. Great game to be honest but fair warning, it does have p2w mechanics and very predatory pricing structure so play with caution and if you are the type to have a hard time controlling yourself with those types of games, you may want to steer clear. Cheers!
I mean... It's a VERY VERY different type of experience but if you don't have Apple devices, I'd say the iPad Pro to be honest. It's a more frictionless approach and personally, I like the thought of diversifying my operating systems to always keep me knowledgeable of each. But with that said, maybe you are Apple all-around and the X1 Mini would be the Windows device entering your life, after which case, I'd completely flip my answer 😅 But overall, if you spend more going for the Mini will also get more all around, as long as you put the effort and time in to tweak it. In a nutshell: X1 Mini = More Friction / Huge Potential / More Games / Better Graphics / Less Battery iPad Pro = Less Friction / Different Potential / Less Games / Lesser Graphics / More Battery
@@topherc100 Totally agree on durability, that's why during the video I mention that if a dock was ever to be, that there would be a need for guiding lips to not have any risks of causing pressure on the connector by not being aligned properly, like USB-Cs can definitely tolerate without issue. As for screen problems, what are you referring to exactly? That it is portrait? Because if so, yes it is, it's the exact same panel. Cheers!
I like tablets for drawing and reading comics, I like a laptop to write and work and I love playing games on a handheld. This 3 in 1 concept is an awesome solution for people like me. And I would say that it could be consider a 4 in 1 if you conect it to a tv or monitor to play games with friends.
It's a very capable device, I would advise you though, the screen doesn't have a digitizer like the X1 does. Meaning that active pens do not work, you have to use a capacitive one, still a working solution but you'll have no pressure point support and not as precise also. But yeah, 4-in-1, seems like the next step of evolution for OneXPlayer! 😂
what think of dock would work with this for tv output?
@@chrismckenna6183 Such a timely question, I just reviewed a dock, the X1 Mini works fine with it and it’s HDMI 2.1: th-cam.com/video/v0ebZ3XBn14/w-d-xo.htmlsi=3vV3OsS-r-zz5jK2
@@GameTechTalk thank you also would this be good in tablet mode to read books comics ect or is it quite heavy
@@chrismckenna6183 I mean, it's not light like a kindle or anything but I find that it is more than bearable, even more so if the controllers are removed to hold as you said like a tablet. I don't know that it would be my device of choice to indulge in 2-3 hours of reading, actually, it wouldn't be. But a 30mins between game sessions? Most definitely.
So excited for my X1 mini to arrive!
@OwenOrsetti good luck with their customer support
Seems like you had a bad experience @venancioder9288 care to elaborate?
Congrats on the purchase @OwenOrsetti
Awesome content as always...
Interesting Device...
It should have a full wide kickstand... ( Courtesy of MS Surface Pro) That little stick leg is a No No...
and stylus support for the screen those Artists / Gamers could use it for Quick doodling or digital sketch pad...
🧐🤓
I kind of agree on the still leg, never been my favorite either but I'll command them on at least having put one that is made with sturdy metal. I'd still take a wide plastic one though. Cheers!
Appreciate the review! Love the controller ergonomics and screen size! Wish it had 4 extra back programmable back buttons like Xbox Elite controllers instead of only 2. that's the ONLY thing preventing me from getting it. thanks for showing the back side, their website doesn't show this.
My pleasure, thanks for the kind words.
Awesome one Klef! Them are some smoooth transitions!
Thanks GG! T'was quite a race against time but I'm glad it came out the way it did! :)
Not having VRR on the X1 mini is just sadge. Like you mention this handled is ALMOST perfect.
Yeah, that would've sealed the deal for many I reckon. If the 2025 devices can come with OLED, I'll be happy to wait another year for VRR (personally) but if not, VRR shouldn't even be up for discussion at that point.
The OneXPlayer X1 mini has the power. Its a thick boy compared to the 10.95" X1.
In the next video, we test the X1 Mini to tender a T-Bone with that thicc bod!! 😂
Great review as always but now I need one, just because you said it's better than the fly.
I know you to have a particular appreciation for fine craftsmanship both inside and out of devices so yes, I do think the X1 Mini would be right there in your wheelhouse. Cheers!
Great detailed video and apologies if I missed it. Are you able to confirm what stylus is compatible on both devices such as surface pens please? Thanks in advance.
I’m not home to double check and won’t be for about 2 weeks but I’m 95% sure that the X1 Mini does not support active type pens so only capacitive touch ones that are generic and simulate a finger touch. The X1s do support an active type pen that has up to 4096 pressure points and I did test both. Really good for artists with the right pen!
Are the analog sticks comfortable to use? Are they comparable to the Steam Deck (LCD)
The Steam Deck has bigger sticks, you could easily address the ones on the X1 Mini with caps but by default, I'd say the Steam Deck sticks do feel superior.
@@GameTechTalk Thank you for answering 😄
lol thanks for trying the cod bro, appreciate you.
Ahahaha! I wasn't sure If you were going to see it. So sorry but yeah, I had to move forward as time was running out. Thanks for watching! 😊
I have an X1 coming and this video has me even more pumped to get it!
Same. waiting "patiently" for the X1.
OneXPlayer nailed it with the X1 line-up, not gonna lie. Or maybe it just fits my needs so perfectly but for now, they hold the crown, X1 or Mini, can't go wrong, just a question of preference is all.
Ordered on amazon the 11 inch version it cones with everything
They can be ordered on Amazon? 😱
90hz 900p should be king in screen??? Guys are you drunk?
Legion Go got 2k and 144hz. This isn't be beaten already.
The argument comes the fact that OLED has blazingly fast response time, which renders VRR nearly useless, for 1. For 2, colors and contrast are just off the charts in comparison. 3, because response time is so high, 90hz on OLED often feels more responsive (panel wise) than equivalent on LCD tech, last but not least, having a native lower resolution can also improve clarity when playing at said resolution. The Legion Go on the other end, if you lower signal to 800p, it's not as clear.
I see your point, I really do, but whereas Legion Go/X1 Mini offer an overkill solution (which is my preference btw), from a technical, technological and logical point-of-view, the SD OLED panel is arguably best for what handheld primarily is designed for. At the end of the day though, you go with what is best for you, as I do for me. That is why my SD OLED has no more than honestly 5 hours played total. I already bested it with an X1 Mini I had for 5 days, that should tell you where I stand.
So if you had to compare performance and grapic whise which one would you pick asus rog ally extreme or the onexplayerx1 I'm just wondering cause I want to download farm sim 25 and want to go with the better performance and graphic option
The gap in difference between the X1 and X1 Mini are negligible to non-existent as they basically use exactly the same. The performance difference versus the ROG ALLY X would be indeed present but probably also very negligible despite being more prominent. What I would recommend ultimately is to still go ROG ALLY X because of VRR and landscape panel effectively making AFMF2 viable if there is the ability to use frame gen with the game you wish to play.
Hey, was wondering if you plan on getting your hands on flydigi's Vader 4 pro that just released. It looks really fucking good at $80 (lowkey makes apex 4 obsolete imo) but I haven't seen any deep dive reviews that actually care much about specs on it yet
It is with me currently, still wrapped. I'm still on the fence of it I want to do a hands-on video AND a deep-dive review. I might go straight to review but if so, I won't talk about it for a couple of days still. If you have specific questions, drop 'em here, I'll make sure to address when one or the other comes!
@@GameTechTalk Besides the obvious stuff like the joystick force rings and stats vs the other 1k polling controllers you compared in the controller roundup, it'd be really cool to see how the gyroscope's accuracy fares against the Vader 3 and Apex 4, and even other gyro sensors like the Edge or Guilikit. Maybe that's somewhere they cut costs as to not have this be the "Apex 4 Screenless Edition" 😭😭
You should compare it to Legion Go as it's the same size..
Raised a few comparison but I guess I could make a proper comparison video at some point, thanks for the suggestion!
Is this better than legion go?
In my sincere most opinion, yes. With that said, some people prefer to go for the convenient options from the local store and I absolutely understand that. There is extra layers of "friction" that come with those boutique-type handheld PCs. I have built a massive tolerance over the years and the reliability and quality have increased to unprecendented levels, so while it's still not as easy as ordering one on BestBuy that I can return within 30 days, it's still very much worth it. Still, not everyone would think the same and I can understand that too.
@@GameTechTalk thanks, I'm really tempted by the extra RAM and oculink port but concerned about support, warranty and overall polish. I also use fps mode on the go. Tough call for me. I'm leaning towards upgrading.
I am a tall person. Would this device be comfortable for someone with big hands?
Yes, the ergonomics of the controller are pretty much an overall "universal" type of profile, think Xbox Series controller or Dualsense. The sticks might lack a bit of height for you but you can address that with cap sleeves. Overall, not only is it better than most other handhelds to that effect, It's in a completely different ballpark and one that I feel would overall be better suited for any type of gamer.
WHAT SPACE GAME YOUR PLAYING AT 5 26
That would be Minishoot' Adventures. Strongly STRONGLY recommended. It's like a Metroidvania/shmup fusion. It's a lot of fun!
The X1 8840U non mini is way better with its 10.9" VRR screen
Better is subjective and I love them both but the X1 Mini strikes an overall better balance in my opinion. However, as someone that loves having the "most" when I can spec-wise, the panel on the X1 sure feels extra in the way that I like it. But I feel like I should point out, I am pretty certain that the X1 Mini and X1 both do not have VRR panel, and also both sport portrait panels. Not to want to dissuade or anything but it didn't sit right with me to not address it. Thanks for watching! 😊
What game is that in the intro?
Minishoot' Adventure, really fun game for what little I've played!
What’s the game at 5:30?
The First Descendant, a free to play on Steam and consoles. Fun but also quite p2w.
Oculink has piqued my interest on this type of device
It's an awesome tool for anyone making proper use of that feature. I'm equipped with a sick rig and I got to say, eGPU was fun with USB-C, but through Oculink, it actually made sense more than ever as a viable main solution. If that technology keeps growing the way it does, my current rig could be my last. That's how good it already is.
@@GameTechTalk yeah that'sy vision too. A small device to take to and from the office between docks, or for use in meetings and a powerful GPU dock at home for when things get serious. Being able to game between destinations is icing on the cake.
What's the game you are playing at 8:01 ?
The First Descendant, it's a free-to-play that came out about a week ago. Great game to be honest but fair warning, it does have p2w mechanics and very predatory pricing structure so play with caution and if you are the type to have a hard time controlling yourself with those types of games, you may want to steer clear. Cheers!
Ipad m4 or this pls help haha saw this bow im confused
Ahaahhah!! So answer me this, what do you intend to play the most, emulators or modern Android/iOS games?
Warzone haha mobile or windows
I mean... It's a VERY VERY different type of experience but if you don't have Apple devices, I'd say the iPad Pro to be honest. It's a more frictionless approach and personally, I like the thought of diversifying my operating systems to always keep me knowledgeable of each. But with that said, maybe you are Apple all-around and the X1 Mini would be the Windows device entering your life, after which case, I'd completely flip my answer 😅 But overall, if you spend more going for the Mini will also get more all around, as long as you put the effort and time in to tweak it.
In a nutshell:
X1 Mini = More Friction / Huge Potential / More Games / Better Graphics / Less Battery
iPad Pro = Less Friction / Different Potential / Less Games / Lesser Graphics / More Battery
Oculink should have been on the top
Absolutely. As mentioned in the video though, if they were to have a solid docking solution for that bottom row, I could forgive them.
@@GameTechTalk yea but also oculink is not as durable as a port for that stuff and does the screen have the same problem as legion go?
@@topherc100 Totally agree on durability, that's why during the video I mention that if a dock was ever to be, that there would be a need for guiding lips to not have any risks of causing pressure on the connector by not being aligned properly, like USB-Cs can definitely tolerate without issue.
As for screen problems, what are you referring to exactly? That it is portrait? Because if so, yes it is, it's the exact same panel. Cheers!
This is trash waiting for rog ally x after 4 days
That coverage will be coming shortly. And hey, I might just prefer it, who knows.
Get a real job
This is my real job, would you have any suggestions as to how I can be better at it?
@@GameTechTalk that was a very mature and professional answer.