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@@HardwareCanucks How can The Verge be so bad at tech news so much of the time? Their parent publication Vox is pretty good quality so it feels like they need to get a handle on whoever is screwing up Verge so badly.
@@StrongButAwkward Vox 's reporting is not always that great. I think they make pretty good investigative journalism articles/videos, but a lot of their other stuff is hit and miss, the same as any media company. Their movie writers are for instance, extremely bad. They have a hatred for Marvel movies, and bash them for their continuity via comparison to X-Men. The same franchise that errm.... rebooted with multiple characters appear multiple times as different people. Sure, Marvel are not everyone's cup of tea but at least convince me with an example that made sense. I think in some sense, because parts of their editorial is so strong and quite trusted by their main audience, is not hard for their management to brush off any of their missteps as elitist nonsense, especially when the PC enthusiast community have a reputation of high level of toxicity and elitism (with their PC Master race shtick, part of the reason Linus got into hot water over his PS5 SSD rant). The Verge is aimed at casual tech users, they basically bit off too much when they veered off their lane and pretend to be an expert.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE noise normalised tests, because each fan is different so even though the RPM is the same the air moved and the noises made would be different... way too many variables changed so it's not really comparable
And not everybody is Tech Jesus Steve who lied straight in your face when he told you that he was the only one using a special test dummy and noise normalised test as first. Hardware Info from the Netherlands does it for years like this.
Its something we are moving towards and we have all the information from the coolers we have tested. This is a multi phase approach for us with normalized power input and then looking to roll out some more normalized fan tests. One of the issues is fan speed variance which sometimes exceeds 10%. That's actually huge and is a very real concern for normalized testing.
I used this cooler for a while (and did a review). Was a great cooler, it cooled my 3950x great and it was narrow enough to not cover my rgb ram so I could still show it off, something you can't do with these other coolers. This cooler is about looks, how quiet it is and dimensions. I also think you got a bad mounting bracket or something, mine was perfectly straight.
Just got a 5950x, not going to OC it or anything exotic, but I really do not want to deal with going the liquid cooling route. How's the noise on hot days/usage?
@@07wrxtr1 I just replaced my CM Master Air with a Dark Rock Pro 4. I had the same issues he had, and it wasn't cooling very well on my 5800x (which is just a hot running chip). After the switch I dropped by 12c at idle and 10c at load. If the 5950x runs as hot as my chip does, I would avoid this cooler. Hope that helps.
@@landanimalx Yeah I ended up just choosing that boring phanteks AIO with the 2 big fans, it's a T30 240... it's not pretty but it does the job!! 128gb of ram, 3080, 5950x, 3x2tb 980pro's. Couldn't be happier! Did all LianLi AL120's for fans
@@landanimalx Oh Jesus Christ really?Really?? That's an expensie af air cooler too, it's like 100 USD. Not very promising sounding. And yes I was thinking to be getting the 5950x and using this cooler bc I don't want ton bother with AIO. Alternatively I can just get 5800X3D it just sucks because I got an overclocking board and am realizing how useless my board would be on just X3D. Idk how well this would work on a 5800X3D but it should keep it controlled. 5950x what would be best for cooling that not liquid? Yes aesthetics does matter to me, I would rather get LCD AIO just to look good in the case at that point than bother with anything that looks like a hyper 212
I like the understated aesthetics, nice to see decent thermals despite the low noise. Would be a good fit for a sound dampened case without tempered glass & RGB madness.
@@HardwareCanucks I thought the design encompassing the fan would result in less noise? How can the noctua nh d15 bring less noise if the fans are not encompassed on a box?
@@HardwareCanucks Thanks to the recommendation from you guys. Have been subbed to Hardware Canucks since the NZXT Phantom case days. Keep up the good work guys
To put it mildly: disillusioning! Too many negative points for the price: Too high (most cases allow 158-160mm only juuust), cheap mounting material, finicky mounting, basically impossible fan change, good but not breathtaking cooling performance... That's all a somewhat underwhelming resume compared to the competition at this price point.
Right, typical bling bling pc equipment. Let’s add some RGB, save some money for materials and mounting, don’t care about ease of use and at least double the price. Sadly there will be enough people buying this thing just because it looks cool.
Smiling Bandit I know, and it’s sad because it is really cool. If you could swap the fan easily and it had a better mounting system, I’d buy it for 120 but they always gotta cut the corners I care about.
I have this in a SL600M, which might not be the ideal case for this, but it's been keeping my Ryzen 2700X nice and cool for the last 10 months. No complaints here.
I have been running Noctua DH-14 for a decade on my home server that runs 24/7 (Intel core i7 985X 6c/12t, averaging at 45% usage). I don't know why, but that cooler doesn't seem to accumulate dust NEARLY as much as all my previous coolers. I think it must be that the fins are not packed as tightly. Whatever the reason, DH-14 has worked 100% perfectly, it doesn't need any maintenance, the fans are silent and still decade of continuous run they work like they were new. Unless something unbelievable happens, I will be buying Noctuas the rest of my life.
I got one too. They perform even better if you put a slightly faster fan on the back that draws in fresh air through the sides of the fin stack. Its better than NH-d15 performance on my 130 watt cpu. I am surprised it cant keep up in the 260 watt test but it is only 120mm wide.
I've been running one of these for a while now and couldn't be happier. Performance is not the best in class, but it is still very good. And it is whisper quiet. I have yet to hear it in normal operation. I had no issues mounting mine at all; in fact, this was the easiest air cooler I've ever mounted. Didn't even need to remove the mobo from the case. But let's be honest... It looks awesome. It is easily the best looking air cooler in this class. You're buying this one over the others in its class because of it's appearance, not for its performance. The good thing is that it performs *well enough* that it won't give you any issues. I was ambivalent given the price and some of the testing I'd seen but have absolutely no regrets after running it for a while.
I have this cooler, and it does sit level on my Asus Crosshair VIII Formula motherboard. It also looks really nice in argb setups if that's what you're going for. If you pair it with a high airflow case, CPU temps stay super cool
Glad you like this CPU cooler! I just put it in my new build and it's awesome in every way. Most reviews I read comment on it sitting loose on the mount, however I found that there is little mention that on the last clamp turn of the two fixing screws it's essential to square it up to the case for appearances and at that time it becomes solid. I also have a high airflow case, but I do wish more people would point out it has 6 pipes on the heatsink vs 4 which most cheaper models are reviewed against. The pipe configuration is also better on this than other coolers for the through airflow.
I have this cooler, I bought because of the asthetics, I am just in love with it tbh (but beauty is subjective). The cooling is great as well as the loudness but I agree a 100% on the mounting... it was a total mess and the instructions were not clear at all. I can recomend it if you like (and care) for the looks, but there are better options at the same price if thats not important to you
BRILLIANT content! Professionally done and outstanding video quality! As someone who exclusively goes by aircooling, I want more of this kind of content!
I have the H510 case and this cooler actually touches the tempered glass. NZXT said 165 mm is the maximum height for coolers and this pushes against the panel just slightly. Closes fine though, looks and performs great, and is completely silent.
Hello Ebert like you I liked the design a lot. Bummer that it's 100 bucks and at that price there's better coolers. I am glad you guys are testing Air Coolers more now a days. One more thing, I liked the bloopers a lot. (:
I just found this cooler on amazon and was looking for reviews of it earlier, today. I liked the look of it, I'll probably keep an eye on the price and see if it goes on sale in the 80$ or less range. I do wonder how it would perform differently with a static pressure fan, instead.
Love the Scythe Fuma 2! Great value for $60 and very silent from the reviews I've seen. Just ordered it for my first PC that I will be building at the end of my college semester (in 2 weeks).
If you want the reliability of an air cooler you may aswell go with the Noctua NH-D15, it out performs the Cooler Master, has a six year warranty, and is quite simply the definitive air cooler as long as you have room for it. It also sits straight on your mobo! Fit and forget.
I have this cooler... mine fits square but you made me look! I think you may have just gotten an anomaly. The only thing that really bugged me about this cooler was the fitting, and I'm not talking about those two screws. The backing plate didn't fit flush, it's something I've seen reported many times, and I had to put rubber washers on the back of the motherboard to get a flush fit. Not a big deal but annoying that they couldn't get that right out of the box.
I wish you guys made a video on comparing Pre built pc. I know tech fans don't like it but ya I'd rather have someone else make it for me than me screwing up an expensive piece of equipment. Looking forward to a prebuilt pc video
Main reason for anyone to buy this cooler is if you have a Ryzen 3600/3700 and are looking for something that looks minimalist while also having some bling to it. I own one of these and this cooler performs and looks amazing, those LED lights look way better in person than any picture can show. And if you are not completely torturing the system it can cool very effectively while staying very quiet. You will be paying a higher price for its performance in order to get the aesthetics and the quietness but it is a fair tradeoff provided you don't really need the absolute best cooling capacity ever and even so this one was actually better than half of the alternatives shown in the video anyways.
6:20 oh my god that's my pain right there.. when I was trying to switch out CPUs I had this problem over and over.. and after switching I noticed the brackets move around alot too which just isn't nice! I thought I was doing something wrong but seeing as you had to do it too.. I guess it was just a design flaw... I dropped my 5900x and my 5800x3d that day, So it was a really bad day for me.. had to go all the way back to my 5600x. Safe to say I won't be changing my pc again until new motherboard and power supply.
It is a lovely design! I think in case where you can mount a rear fan (many do) then a second fan would almost be in line to help pull the heat out and improve the thermal performance, i'm sure a 3d printed shroud could be made to link the 2, yes it is a lot of work but then again it looks fantastic and that is important.
I've been looking for a cooling solution, but wasn't really satisfied. Looking forward to this video Edit: well I guess I'm a fan of Noctua's NH-D15 Chromax now
Haha - after installing Golden Orb on Duron 20 years ago, nothing is tedious with CPU coolers installation these days :D I will never forget that sound of chipping the exposed CPU core :p
I have Dark Rock PRO and i am totally satisfied. The only thing i do not like about it - Setup is not that easy, could be easier (but not very hard). MA620M looks heavy 1.65kg, almost half kg heavier. How this will affect motherboard? I mean heavy is not a good thing for a vertical mounting.
I think you need to add a noise normalised test, especially for coolers like this one. Yes it takes more time to do the tests but it is the most informative.
I have this cooler and the sag is real, mine also sits slightly twisted on the socket. It does keep things cool and quiet but you have to prop up the cooler. The rubber board grommets coupled with the weight make it sag down considerably. Looks good but has its issues
Looks like the long screws have c-clips retaining them onto the bottom assembly. If you remove those, I bet they would pull up and with them release the top part of the plastic shroud, that would give you access to the fan inside.
I just installed on on my 9700K, socket 115x, and it was flawless, both screws sat right on the holes, no tipping or pushing, and its straight.....I wonder if one of your tand offs was cockeyed? or possibly put in the wrong orientaion? They are slightly rectangular, all I know is mine went on easier than any tower cooler I've installed before.
the reason its overlooked is that its too expensive in comparison to similar products. get a scythe fuma 2 and save yourself some money, works great just doesnt have the same aesthetics of the coolermaster theyre showcasing....buttt you can change out the external fan for an rgb fan or just get a phanteks ring kit to go on top of it. it also has space for another fan on the other side of the cooler along with clips to attach that fan as well
Off angle? I just expect it to work. I would disable the RBG. And add a push and pull fan on either side of the cooler. Modify your hardware to do the job. But that is just the engineer in me. :)
I really like aircooler reviews, since i think cooling should have even more focus. So thanks for making a pretty good video on it. The main thing missing i think is memory compatibility. This is where this aircooler might make more sense then the higher performing ones since it only has 1 fan an the heatsink seems to start higher then the other main high performing aircoolers. Like the corsair one.
@@eber.antony Without the second fan i would think so, but imo still important to know. Thanks for the info. (I cant use my first memory bank with the Dark Rock Pro 2 without moving the fan up and make it look silly)
Was a peace of cake pulling it appart, just lightly glued together. So i ganked the stock fan and jammed in a noctua. My 3900x draws 200watt. The modded cooler tapped out during benchmarks at 4.3ghz, gaming it works great. All in all not worth it unless you're only using a i7 or 3600 or equivalent.
I use a old CM 6 pipe cooler made to cool a overclocked FX-8350. Good enough for 4.5 Ghz all day. I installed it on a Crosshair VI. It is real similar to a CM 610M. It does real well cooling a R5 1600 AE at 3.95 GHZ all cores. My best guess is the 1600 is using 130+ watts at 3.95Ghz all cores. Not stable. It is not heat related. 3850 Mhz is its stable speed. With a single fan. Does less the 70C sound good? How about 65C and with a 27C room temperature? I think it actually think it would have cooled a 9590 at standard speeds and two fans. I don't need a 3700x right now. I think will use the 1600 to run a HTPC build with a HD7790 and a 470 board. That should not have any trouble feeding a streaming 1080p TV.
I see all air cooler are great as long as it can hold max temp lower than 80c in normal daily usage/gaming. I can run 6 windows of Bluestacks emulator (2cores+4GB mem each) for gaming, surf internet, listen to tidal at same time and left for days (game farming), with my AMD stock Wraith Prism cooler avg at 70c+/-. This one seems like will do the job well too, plus the design is awesome, all black heat sink and simple LED line and the shape, that's new! I have my PC on my table in my lightly black tinted glass panel case, this cooler will look super cool in it compare to Fuma 2 boring design. It also seems beat off Fuma2 and NH12UA in certain spot in the test.. I might give it a try, but the offset leveling issue there, kinda hold me but there must be a trick to fix it I guess :P - 'I absolutely love the design'
Might want to look into older coolers with AM4 brackets available. I got a dual tower Phanteks 140mm cooler (TC14PE black edition) for ~65 USD. The Ryzen bracket cost ~10 USD with fast shipping. It still looks amazing and performs just about on par with newer and way more expensive Noctuas e.g. NH-D14.
I don't really like the testing inside cases for a particular cooler. Open air gives it the best case scenario. Adding a case increases the number of variables - sure it's more "real world" but what if you don't have the same number of fans? What if your case is more choked off? What if you have a different internal pressure configuration? Set it on a test-bed, set the air conditioning to a fixed value and gives us your tests
Since this is a video about cooler master and I can’t find any info on this question online, is terramaster part of cooler master? They use the same logo design. And honestly it would be insane for a company that makes cases to not make extremely over priced tb3 enclosures.
Not being able to swap out the fan easily is major design flaw, the point of an air cooler is easy maintenance if a fan fails. On the plus side it does look good!
I need ONLY design. Thats all. This thing looks good And for my ryzen 5 3600 i dont need powerful cooling. But i need beautiful. That's why i want this cooler
Really won't be a bad choice for a nice understated gaming pc but not a good one for work. I'd love to see those plastic covers being 3d printable tho, add some non rbg goodness to it
Testing thoughts... Fixed(1000RPM) fan RPM testing doesn't make much sense, the fans nor the load they're faced with in each heatsink design are the same, they aren't designed to run in the same RPM ranges, nor should anyone be using the same RPM for any fan they install(it should be set individually based on personal noise vs performance preference) - percentage of max RPM(50%, 75%, 100%?) testing makes much more sense since it will represent each fan's intended operating range. Decibels can be measured at each percentage to create the picture of a fan's/heatsink's noise vs performance. It would be a good idea to add airflow testing at each percentage as well using an airflow meter, they're pretty affordable at $30 and less on Amazon. You could use it against the front & rear of the heat sink to see how effectively the fan is pulling/pushing air through the heatsink(once you have enough results to create a picture), or how much of a restriction a heatsink is. Could be used for fan testing too at a fixed distance(like 3" or something?) away from the front of the fan to chart max unobstructed airflow for each fan tested(a baseline essentially), maybe against the opposite side of a radiator to see how effectively a fan can move air through one, etc. Case testing as well - in front of intakes, outside of exhausts, maybe along the airflow paths in the case to the CPU-VRM area or GPU intake, etc. Even laptop testing for that matter - how about we starting benchmarking each laptop's ability to move air through their restrictive cooling systems? That could legitimately lead to a change in laptop reviews and laptop design since cooling is so critical to laptops and we have no other way of judging it than by temperature & guesstimated opinions about the design visually. Also, fixed decibel testing on the other hand does make sense since it allows for temp testing at the same noise level, gives the viewer the ability to compare their personal noise limits to the tested decibel. Qualitative results should accompany decibel testing though, high pitched noises are worse than low pitched after all. Anyway, great review, just some of my thoughts about how empirical testing could be made even better - there's a lot of low hanging fruit here using very affordable tools(airflow meters, infrared temp guns, sound level meters and the like, all available for even $20 each om Amazon)!
It's a major step forward compared to the older Master air series (with recessed nuts to tighten under the fins) but it's not yet as good as bequiet or noctua
I just don't see the niche for it. At that height and price, you may as well get an NHD15. If you're only interested in aesthetics, or only in noise, there are better and cheaper options available. Yeah, it looks novel, but $100 for a tower with a single non-replaceable 120mm fan just doesn't appeal when considering the alternatives
I absolutely love this cooler. It looks clean, the RGB isn't in your face, and just reminds of a big engine block for some reason.
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Verge did that thermal compound application image.
We almost said it....almost. ;)
@@HardwareCanucks I was waiting.... I was disappointed :(. LOL
@@HardwareCanucks How can The Verge be so bad at tech news so much of the time? Their parent publication Vox is pretty good quality so it feels like they need to get a handle on whoever is screwing up Verge so badly.
@@StrongButAwkward Vox 's reporting is not always that great. I think they make pretty good investigative journalism articles/videos, but a lot of their other stuff is hit and miss, the same as any media company. Their movie writers are for instance, extremely bad. They have a hatred for Marvel movies, and bash them for their continuity via comparison to X-Men. The same franchise that errm.... rebooted with multiple characters appear multiple times as different people. Sure, Marvel are not everyone's cup of tea but at least convince me with an example that made sense.
I think in some sense, because parts of their editorial is so strong and quite trusted by their main audience, is not hard for their management to brush off any of their missteps as elitist nonsense, especially when the PC enthusiast community have a reputation of high level of toxicity and elitism (with their PC Master race shtick, part of the reason Linus got into hot water over his PS5 SSD rant). The Verge is aimed at casual tech users, they basically bit off too much when they veered off their lane and pretend to be an expert.
Ah, I was gonna ask
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE noise normalised tests, because each fan is different so even though the RPM is the same the air moved and the noises made would be different... way too many variables changed so it's not really comparable
And not everybody is Tech Jesus Steve who lied straight in your face when he told you that he was the only one using a special test dummy and noise normalised test as first. Hardware Info from the Netherlands does it for years like this.
Matched RPM tests offer even less value when comparing 120mm fans to 140mm fans.
Its something we are moving towards and we have all the information from the coolers we have tested. This is a multi phase approach for us with normalized power input and then looking to roll out some more normalized fan tests. One of the issues is fan speed variance which sometimes exceeds 10%. That's actually huge and is a very real concern for normalized testing.
@@dorientjewoller113 no English subs Dutch colonial!
@@mixedup5858 Not everybody is that stupid of not releasing their reviews in English, even if they are Dutch :P
I used this cooler for a while (and did a review). Was a great cooler, it cooled my 3950x great and it was narrow enough to not cover my rgb ram so I could still show it off, something you can't do with these other coolers. This cooler is about looks, how quiet it is and dimensions. I also think you got a bad mounting bracket or something, mine was perfectly straight.
Just got a 5950x, not going to OC it or anything exotic, but I really do not want to deal with going the liquid cooling route. How's the noise on hot days/usage?
@@07wrxtr1 I just replaced my CM Master Air with a Dark Rock Pro 4. I had the same issues he had, and it wasn't cooling very well on my 5800x (which is just a hot running chip). After the switch I dropped by 12c at idle and 10c at load. If the 5950x runs as hot as my chip does, I would avoid this cooler. Hope that helps.
@@landanimalx Yeah I ended up just choosing that boring phanteks AIO with the 2 big fans, it's a T30 240... it's not pretty but it does the job!! 128gb of ram, 3080, 5950x, 3x2tb 980pro's. Couldn't be happier! Did all LianLi AL120's for fans
@@07wrxtr1 bro no one cares lmao
@@landanimalx Oh Jesus Christ really?Really?? That's an expensie af air cooler too, it's like 100 USD. Not very promising sounding. And yes I was thinking to be getting the 5950x and using this cooler bc I don't want ton bother with AIO. Alternatively I can just get 5800X3D it just sucks because I got an overclocking board and am realizing how useless my board would be on just X3D. Idk how well this would work on a 5800X3D but it should keep it controlled. 5950x what would be best for cooling that not liquid? Yes aesthetics does matter to me, I would rather get LCD AIO just to look good in the case at that point than bother with anything that looks like a hyper 212
I like the understated aesthetics, nice to see decent thermals despite the low noise. Would be a good fit for a sound dampened case without tempered glass & RGB madness.
you'd just get a D15 in that case...
100% agreed on this. Its a really interesting option if you can fit it into a case due to its height.
But then the design doesn't really matter if you are going to use a case without glass, at that point I'd just get the nhd-15
If you were going for something without RGB why not go Dark Rock Pro 4?
@@HardwareCanucks I thought the design encompassing the fan would result in less noise? How can the noctua nh d15 bring less noise if the fans are not encompassed on a box?
I'll stick to my Fuma 2 . Amazing silent fans , Amazing temps . And a price that crushes the competition
The Fuma 2 is AMAZING man.
Same.
@@HardwareCanucks Thanks to the recommendation from you guys. Have been subbed to Hardware Canucks since the NZXT Phantom case days. Keep up the good work guys
Using that Fuma 2 for already a year. Best 60 Euro's I ever have spend.
Also rocking a FUMA 2, mainly cause these guys recommended it. Really good cooler, haven't looked back.
To put it mildly: disillusioning! Too many negative points for the price: Too high (most cases allow 158-160mm only juuust), cheap mounting material, finicky mounting, basically impossible fan change, good but not breathtaking cooling performance... That's all a somewhat underwhelming resume compared to the competition at this price point.
Right, typical bling bling pc equipment. Let’s add some RGB, save some money for materials and mounting, don’t care about ease of use and at least double the price.
Sadly there will be enough people buying this thing just because it looks cool.
Smiling Bandit I know, and it’s sad because it is really cool. If you could swap the fan easily and it had a better mounting system, I’d buy it for 120 but they always gotta cut the corners I care about.
More expensive than D15 while having worse performence, hard to access fan and worse mounting kit. Oops
Yeah definitely not worth the price
Yup I agree. If it was less then it would be a better purchasing item.
I have this in a SL600M, which might not be the ideal case for this, but it's been keeping my Ryzen 2700X nice and cool for the last 10 months. No complaints here.
I have been running Noctua DH-14 for a decade on my home server that runs 24/7 (Intel core i7 985X 6c/12t, averaging at 45% usage). I don't know why, but that cooler doesn't seem to accumulate dust NEARLY as much as all my previous coolers. I think it must be that the fins are not packed as tightly. Whatever the reason, DH-14 has worked 100% perfectly, it doesn't need any maintenance, the fans are silent and still decade of continuous run they work like they were new. Unless something unbelievable happens, I will be buying Noctuas the rest of my life.
I have the Scythe FUMA 2 and it's incredible.
Me too. Got my FUMA 2 on eBay for 45 bucks, making it the best bang-for-the-buck cooler, ever.
@@ricoswabe18 scythe kotetsu Mark 2 is also realy good, cool, small and quite
I got one too. They perform even better if you put a slightly faster fan on the back that draws in fresh air through the sides of the fin stack. Its better than NH-d15 performance on my 130 watt cpu. I am surprised it cant keep up in the 260 watt test but it is only 120mm wide.
How about the noise bro?
People care how their heatsink looks?
*laughs in poop brown and vomit tan*
Laughs in whisper quiet fans and great temperatures.
Laughs in dual light loop fans and liquid cooling.
Laughs in $30 noisy HSF
Laughs in Chromax
Have y'all not heard of the Noctua chromax line? No poop brown necessary.
I've been running one of these for a while now and couldn't be happier. Performance is not the best in class, but it is still very good. And it is whisper quiet. I have yet to hear it in normal operation. I had no issues mounting mine at all; in fact, this was the easiest air cooler I've ever mounted. Didn't even need to remove the mobo from the case.
But let's be honest... It looks awesome. It is easily the best looking air cooler in this class. You're buying this one over the others in its class because of it's appearance, not for its performance. The good thing is that it performs *well enough* that it won't give you any issues.
I was ambivalent given the price and some of the testing I'd seen but have absolutely no regrets after running it for a while.
I have this cooler also... it's literally impossible to fit it without removing the motherboard.
i just looked at my hyper 212 black and i will never unsee the tilt
Whenever there's an air cooler review. I always have a smile knowing NOCTUA will be there at top 👌😇😚
With be quiet!
I have this cooler, and it does sit level on my Asus Crosshair VIII Formula motherboard. It also looks really nice in argb setups if that's what you're going for. If you pair it with a high airflow case, CPU temps stay super cool
Glad you like this CPU cooler! I just put it in my new build and it's awesome in every way. Most reviews I read comment on it sitting loose on the mount, however I found that there is little mention that on the last clamp turn of the two fixing screws it's essential to square it up to the case for appearances and at that time it becomes solid. I also have a high airflow case, but I do wish more people would point out it has 6 pipes on the heatsink vs 4 which most cheaper models are reviewed against. The pipe configuration is also better on this than other coolers for the through airflow.
I have this cooler, I bought because of the asthetics, I am just in love with it tbh (but beauty is subjective). The cooling is great as well as the loudness but I agree a 100% on the mounting... it was a total mess and the instructions were not clear at all.
I can recomend it if you like (and care) for the looks, but there are better options at the same price if thats not important to you
Does yours also mount slightly crooked like the one in the video, or does it sit square?
@@joecamel914 its square, i dont know why hes is like that
Nice use of your light saber at 3:48. I thought you were going to cut in half to show us the fan.
Lmao 🤣
I love how tech youtubers at some point agreed that if you drop something on video, they pulled a "Linus".
It reminds me of a motorcycle motor head, looks good.
BRILLIANT content!
Professionally done and outstanding video quality!
As someone who exclusively goes by aircooling, I want more of this kind of content!
You'll have it. :)
Thanks for testing at various wattages and RPM levels, great video!
I have the H510 case and this cooler actually touches the tempered glass. NZXT said 165 mm is the maximum height for coolers and this pushes against the panel just slightly. Closes fine though, looks and performs great, and is completely silent.
Hello Ebert like you I liked the design a lot. Bummer that it's 100 bucks and at that price there's better coolers.
I am glad you guys are testing Air Coolers more now a days.
One more thing, I liked the bloopers a lot. (:
The ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO is excellent budget cooler, check that out!
That would be a interesting review to compare
Would be nice to compare it to the good ol' Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO.
Hardware scientist has the review, Duo is limited at high tdp. Choose 6 pipes or higher.
The new Hyper 212 Evo Black Edition is super sweet!!
Literally just put this in my cart two days ago, what a coincidence, thank you!
CPU Socket Compatibility
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Intel LGA 2066 / 2011-v3 / 2011 / 1200 / 1156 / 1155 / 1151 / 1150 / 775
AMD Socket AM4 / AM3+ / AM3 / AM2+ / AM2 / FM2+ / FM2 / FM1
Thanks for this, should help with new PC builders
I was actually about to buy this but now I can't bring myself to do it now that you pointed out it sits off-angle. That would bother me to no end.
*OCD level going through the ROOF*
Understandable
It doesn't though, he has a bad bracket or installed it improperly. I had the same cooler, was perfectly straight.
Straight like your gay uncle Gary?
I just got mine. Seems pretty straight to me (also massive on a mini-ITX board)
I just found this cooler on amazon and was looking for reviews of it earlier, today. I liked the look of it, I'll probably keep an eye on the price and see if it goes on sale in the 80$ or less range. I do wonder how it would perform differently with a static pressure fan, instead.
Cooler master has it listed on their direct North America store for $84.99
Works amazingly, I absolutely love mine.
Very clever way to show the internal fan I must say. 3:47
BeQuiet's Dark Rock Pro 4 for me, love the industrial look, love the temps but a pain in the arse to install haha.
GN... and their testing; approves of cooler master's thermal paste application
Love the Scythe Fuma 2! Great value for $60 and very silent from the reviews I've seen. Just ordered it for my first PC that I will be building at the end of my college semester (in 2 weeks).
A heat sink spoilt by a poor fan
If you want the reliability of an air cooler you may aswell go with the Noctua NH-D15, it out performs the Cooler Master, has a six year warranty, and is quite simply the definitive air cooler as long as you have room for it. It also sits straight on your mobo! Fit and forget.
I have this cooler... mine fits square but you made me look! I think you may have just gotten an anomaly. The only thing that really bugged me about this cooler was the fitting, and I'm not talking about those two screws. The backing plate didn't fit flush, it's something I've seen reported many times, and I had to put rubber washers on the back of the motherboard to get a flush fit. Not a big deal but annoying that they couldn't get that right out of the box.
Looks great, the ability to change the fan would have helped it more though
I wish you guys made a video on comparing Pre built pc. I know tech fans don't like it but ya I'd rather have someone else make it for me than me screwing up an expensive piece of equipment. Looking forward to a prebuilt pc video
Never go full Linus
" I did not pull a Linus" ;-D Great line and a great review !
The testing results just reaffirm my decision to go with a NH-D15 lol
7 degree difference. Yeah I'd be happy too.
Main reason for anyone to buy this cooler is if you have a Ryzen 3600/3700 and are looking for something that looks minimalist while also having some bling to it. I own one of these and this cooler performs and looks amazing, those LED lights look way better in person than any picture can show. And if you are not completely torturing the system it can cool very effectively while staying very quiet. You will be paying a higher price for its performance in order to get the aesthetics and the quietness but it is a fair tradeoff provided you don't really need the absolute best cooling capacity ever and even so this one was actually better than half of the alternatives shown in the video anyways.
It's incredible that it is 7mm taller than the Noctua.
6:20 oh my god that's my pain right there.. when I was trying to switch out CPUs I had this problem over and over.. and after switching I noticed the brackets move around alot too which just isn't nice!
I thought I was doing something wrong but seeing as you had to do it too.. I guess it was just a design flaw...
I dropped my 5900x and my 5800x3d that day, So it was a really bad day for me.. had to go all the way back to my 5600x.
Safe to say I won't be changing my pc again until new motherboard and power supply.
It is a lovely design! I think in case where you can mount a rear fan (many do) then a second fan would almost be in line to help pull the heat out and improve the thermal performance, i'm sure a 3d printed shroud could be made to link the 2, yes it is a lot of work but then again it looks fantastic and that is important.
I wish there was a cooler that looked like this and performed as well as nh d15. For a reasonable price as well.
Where was the UX testing for this thing? Non-existent I presume; like jesus cooler master wtf happened? Great video, as always
I've been looking for a cooling solution, but wasn't really satisfied.
Looking forward to this video
Edit: well I guess I'm a fan of Noctua's NH-D15 Chromax now
I would be really tempted to try this with a Noctua 3000 RPM fan!
Haha - after installing Golden Orb on Duron 20 years ago, nothing is tedious with CPU coolers installation these days :D I will never forget that sound of chipping the exposed CPU core :p
I have Dark Rock PRO and i am totally satisfied. The only thing i do not like about it - Setup is not that easy, could be easier (but not very hard). MA620M looks heavy 1.65kg, almost half kg heavier. How this will affect motherboard? I mean heavy is not a good thing for a vertical mounting.
I think you need to add a noise normalised test, especially for coolers like this one.
Yes it takes more time to do the tests but it is the most informative.
I have this cooler and the sag is real, mine also sits slightly twisted on the socket. It does keep things cool and quiet but you have to prop up the cooler. The rubber board grommets coupled with the weight make it sag down considerably. Looks good but has its issues
Looks like the long screws have c-clips retaining them onto the bottom assembly. If you remove those, I bet they would pull up and with them release the top part of the plastic shroud, that would give you access to the fan inside.
I just installed on on my 9700K, socket 115x, and it was flawless, both screws sat right on the holes, no tipping or pushing, and its straight.....I wonder if one of your tand offs was cockeyed? or possibly put in the wrong orientaion? They are slightly rectangular, all I know is mine went on easier than any tower cooler I've installed before.
the reason its overlooked is that its too expensive in comparison to similar products. get a scythe fuma 2 and save yourself some money, works great just doesnt have the same aesthetics of the coolermaster theyre showcasing....buttt you can change out the external fan for an rgb fan or just get a phanteks ring kit to go on top of it. it also has space for another fan on the other side of the cooler along with clips to attach that fan as well
Off angle? I just expect it to work. I would disable the RBG. And add a push and pull fan on either side of the cooler. Modify your hardware to do the job. But that is just the engineer in me. :)
I really like aircooler reviews, since i think cooling should have even more focus. So thanks for making a pretty good video on it. The main thing missing i think is memory compatibility. This is where this aircooler might make more sense then the higher performing ones since it only has 1 fan an the heatsink seems to start higher then the other main high performing aircoolers. Like the corsair one.
This cooler has no issues with memory clearance. We tried it with Corsair's Dominator kit
@@eber.antony Without the second fan i would think so, but imo still important to know. Thanks for the info. (I cant use my first memory bank with the Dark Rock Pro 2 without moving the fan up and make it look silly)
the way you carry that around like a toy is quite something to watch, i'm like "lift with both hands, put on table" pheww..
it's super heavy!
Was a peace of cake pulling it appart, just lightly glued together. So i ganked the stock fan and jammed in a noctua.
My 3900x draws 200watt. The modded cooler tapped out during benchmarks at 4.3ghz, gaming it works great. All in all not worth it unless you're only using a i7 or 3600 or equivalent.
Give the Prolimatech Genesis with a 3-Fan configuration a try next, I think folks will be amazed how well it still holds up against the giants.
I use a old CM 6 pipe cooler made to cool a overclocked FX-8350. Good enough for 4.5 Ghz all day.
I installed it on a Crosshair VI. It is real similar to a CM 610M.
It does real well cooling a R5 1600 AE at 3.95 GHZ all cores.
My best guess is the 1600 is using 130+ watts at 3.95Ghz all cores. Not stable. It is not heat related.
3850 Mhz is its stable speed. With a single fan. Does less the 70C sound good? How about 65C and with a 27C room temperature?
I think it actually think it would have cooled a 9590 at standard speeds and two fans.
I don't need a 3700x right now.
I think will use the 1600 to run a HTPC build with a HD7790 and a 470 board. That should not have any trouble feeding a streaming 1080p TV.
the real question is how would it do IF you did go through the pain of shoving a noctua fan in it?
I see all air cooler are great as long as it can hold max temp lower than 80c in normal daily usage/gaming. I can run 6 windows of Bluestacks emulator (2cores+4GB mem each) for gaming, surf internet, listen to tidal at same time and left for days (game farming), with my AMD stock Wraith Prism cooler avg at 70c+/-. This one seems like will do the job well too, plus the design is awesome, all black heat sink and simple LED line and the shape, that's new! I have my PC on my table in my lightly black tinted glass panel case, this cooler will look super cool in it compare to Fuma 2 boring design. It also seems beat off Fuma2 and NH12UA in certain spot in the test.. I might give it a try, but the offset leveling issue there, kinda hold me but there must be a trick to fix it I guess :P
- 'I absolutely love the design'
Looks so cool, but I'm so in love with the Fuma 2!!!!
It will be pain in the ass to clean it from dust I assume
A shame you couldn't get the fan out safely. Would've loved to see how it performed with CM's SF120M.
"provided your cpu isn't producing heat loads that would match a small nuclear reactor" that part made me laugh alot!!
you know what else has been a long time, the part 2 video of you changing your gaming chair.
Looks amazing, but that matters little if it costs that much and has those sort of compromises
Great review 👍 This cooler looks unbelievably complicated.
Nice video man!
Price to performance and also looks?
The Cooler Master MA610p
Might want to look into older coolers with AM4 brackets available. I got a dual tower Phanteks 140mm cooler (TC14PE black edition) for ~65 USD. The Ryzen bracket cost ~10 USD with fast shipping. It still looks amazing and performs just about on par with newer and way more expensive Noctuas e.g. NH-D14.
the only thing I wish they could do was to make a plastic bracket that follows the aesthetic of the cooler so that you can add a second fan
Thanks for erasing my question, appreciate it👍🏻
I don't really like the testing inside cases for a particular cooler. Open air gives it the best case scenario. Adding a case increases the number of variables - sure it's more "real world" but what if you don't have the same number of fans? What if your case is more choked off? What if you have a different internal pressure configuration? Set it on a test-bed, set the air conditioning to a fixed value and gives us your tests
Love the look, but how are you supposed to clean it if you can't get the fan out?
Since this is a video about cooler master and I can’t find any info on this question online, is terramaster part of cooler master? They use the same logo design. And honestly it would be insane for a company that makes cases to not make extremely over priced tb3 enclosures.
No.
Hardware Canucks lol thanks
first aircooler i actually kind of like the look of
Your complaints on mounting this cooler is the same I have with Noctua's lol.
put a nf a12x25 inside and combined with the look, this would be amazing.
Not being able to swap out the fan easily is major design flaw, the point of an air cooler is easy maintenance if a fan fails. On the plus side it does look good!
As always. Want the best performance, build quality, reliability, low noise cooler? Go for Noctua!!
Wow, the model number of this heatsink reminds me of my AM3 mobo from 2011.
I need ONLY design. Thats all. This thing looks good And for my ryzen 5 3600 i dont need powerful cooling. But i need beautiful. That's why i want this cooler
Have you done a budget offbrand/AliExpress air cooler comparison?
Really won't be a bad choice for a nice understated gaming pc but not a good one for work. I'd love to see those plastic covers being 3d printable tho, add some non rbg goodness to it
Nailed the outro 👌🏼
That thing is gonna rip the cpu out of the socket lmao 😂😂😂
Will this put a strain in the motherboard for the long run? Example 3-4 years,, nothing will bend ?
no, Eber, you did, in fact, pull Linus *mic drop*
good review, professor.
which one would you recommend, this one or the NH-D15??
Testing thoughts...
Fixed(1000RPM) fan RPM testing doesn't make much sense, the fans nor the load they're faced with in each heatsink design are the same, they aren't designed to run in the same RPM ranges, nor should anyone be using the same RPM for any fan they install(it should be set individually based on personal noise vs performance preference) - percentage of max RPM(50%, 75%, 100%?) testing makes much more sense since it will represent each fan's intended operating range.
Decibels can be measured at each percentage to create the picture of a fan's/heatsink's noise vs performance.
It would be a good idea to add airflow testing at each percentage as well using an airflow meter, they're pretty affordable at $30 and less on Amazon. You could use it against the front & rear of the heat sink to see how effectively the fan is pulling/pushing air through the heatsink(once you have enough results to create a picture), or how much of a restriction a heatsink is.
Could be used for fan testing too at a fixed distance(like 3" or something?) away from the front of the fan to chart max unobstructed airflow for each fan tested(a baseline essentially), maybe against the opposite side of a radiator to see how effectively a fan can move air through one, etc.
Case testing as well - in front of intakes, outside of exhausts, maybe along the airflow paths in the case to the CPU-VRM area or GPU intake, etc.
Even laptop testing for that matter - how about we starting benchmarking each laptop's ability to move air through their restrictive cooling systems? That could legitimately lead to a change in laptop reviews and laptop design since cooling is so critical to laptops and we have no other way of judging it than by temperature & guesstimated opinions about the design visually.
Also, fixed decibel testing on the other hand does make sense since it allows for temp testing at the same noise level, gives the viewer the ability to compare their personal noise limits to the tested decibel. Qualitative results should accompany decibel testing though, high pitched noises are worse than low pitched after all.
Anyway, great review, just some of my thoughts about how empirical testing could be made even better - there's a lot of low hanging fruit here using very affordable tools(airflow meters, infrared temp guns, sound level meters and the like, all available for even $20 each om Amazon)!
I just gotta say. Holy shit you look good dude
Unfortunately the price is pretty insane here in the UK at about £85 which puts it in the ballpart of some quality 240mm AIOs.
It's a major step forward compared to the older Master air series (with recessed nuts to tighten under the fins) but it's not yet as good as bequiet or noctua
I just don't see the niche for it. At that height and price, you may as well get an NHD15. If you're only interested in aesthetics, or only in noise, there are better and cheaper options available.
Yeah, it looks novel, but $100 for a tower with a single non-replaceable 120mm fan just doesn't appeal when considering the alternatives
I didn't break it. I didn't drop it. Basically, I didn't pull a Linus.
*BOOM Roasted*