Not sure how removing the cpu from the motherboard eliminates the need to cool the cpu. The cpu will still oveheat without a way to disperse the heat created under load. Removing the cpu from the motherboard would open up new ways of cooling though.
It looks to have a back plate and a mounting module that detaches from the actual cooler. If it falls, don't worry about your motherboard. It's taking the whole CPU and socket with it. Lmao.
@@unkid4n Well, to my country they will ship by sea so it will arrive at best by the end of this year and more likely it will be here by the end of January 2021... without considering the delay at customs that are a highly inefficient these days.
@@unkid4n According to a mid-October update the first pallet of coolers is on the way to their facility from the manufacturer, looks like November or December for pre-orders to get delivered
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@Evil Robin Oh comeon... It is how our refrigerators work, and ground heating of our homes work. The fluid boils at low temperature, the shift from liquid to gas pulls energy out of it's surroundings (endotherm reaction), in this case heat from the cpu. The vapor goes somewhere else, and liquifies back, releasing energy in the shift (exotherm). The whole thing is lead around in a loop.
Growing up in eastern europe, I remember at one point our fridge stopped working. We ended up buying a 2nd hand "Zil" - some russian fridge that someone who had it for decades (it was the rounded edge kind) had for sale - that someone left the country and came to the US. Got 2 guys to help move it, brought it home, plugged it in, ran ok, only thing was, being that it wasn't an iceless freezer, the freezer potion froze over causing 1+ inch thick ice in 1-2 days... that wasn't normal. We asked the previous owner (via a very expensive phone call) if that was the case when they had it and they said no... long story short, we found out the thing had an external 220v to 110v transformer box that the movers forgot to pick up. It ran for about 3 months at 220v, basically overclocked... didn't skip a beat.
The phase changes from liquid to gas result in much higher heat transfer. Thats why HVAC uses refrigerants with low boiling points. Thats why the thermosiphon works better than liquid coolers
@@megapro125 then they will sell adaptets at 70% the price of the entire cooler like that company i cannot remember thename... the one that sell overpriced products... oh i remember.. Apple
@@BembelinCz I even have TECs that were on GPUs with a water loop and the CPU had a vapor phase change head on it. So yeah, a custom water loop is pretty normal. :p
Parts get smaller and they get more hotter and denser and even more hotter lol it’s like cramping 8k in a 1inch square imagine the fucking heat dumbass fools gonna need better cooling before long liquid nitrogen or we get to the point a cpu puts out 1500watts of heat ether way lol
@@jonathanoxlade4252 Well not really, you have a ton of chips without any cooling nowadays. high performance stuff sucks in power only because they shove as much power into it as they can. node shrinkage has continually allowed things to compute at lower power usage. computers nowadays might use 2 or 3 times more power, but they're millions or billions of times more powerful
Depends on the concept of water cooling. I'd use water cooling in my production machine (Videos and 3D Rendering) but with an huge radiator and a buffer of a few liters. Not those little kits (like the shown one) which just 'move' the fan away of the cpu ...
Cbeddoe19 Lucky you, mine just made us write them on paper and give it to him as practice, some people just gave him photocopies and still passed the class.
I want one just so I can heat my apartment with it. Seriously, the fuckers in charge of the central heat system fucking capped the heat at just barely comfortable *if* you have multiple layers of clothes on. Obviously this is in the winter when temps drop.
@@LinusTechTips how about noctua 3000rpm ippc? I mean I understand but still EDIT: How about some 38mm thick Delta server fans? Like ones that output 255cfm
I really feel that it's time to redesign the way that GPUs, CPUs, and more are housed in cases and mobos, since the design hasn't fundamentally changed in decades. We've got GPUs where you can't easily pick custom cooling solutions without card disassembly, CPUs where huge coolers hang off the sides of them, stressing the mobo, PSUs with cumbersome wiring situations, and now RGB with even crazier cable management. If you rethought the whole situation from the ground up to expect large coolers on both GPUs and CPUs, RGB, better PSU connections, and more, that you'd end up with something very different from the inconveniences we're settling with now. In the custom PC market today, everyone's just making faster horses.
The problems with that kind of generational change in technology (a total tech redesign in your idea) is the same with all others. Your idea seems to be a total redesign of the entire “tower”, to be re-optimized for products bought/used mostly by gamers. So, why would the private & public business sectors, which are major investors in the current design ecosystem, invest into a brand new & more game-specialized computer ecosystem? It’s hard for me to believe, that without them investing billions into buying that new design for entire corporations and government departments. That it would ever become more than the niche product that most current gaming-optimized parts are, and leaving the prices out of reach for the average budget gamer as well.
Maybe they shouldn't be mounted directly on the mobo and shouldn't be kept in a little hot box crowded together ... a traditional case is a kind of silly, old fashioned idea that you have to put all this stuff in a neat little box for consumers. Look at how crypto miners and deep learning folks build their powerful systems ... it's all open racks with GPUs on risers and components spaced out with cables ... no boxes that turn into destructive heaters and no hanging parts in mobo sockets to make them sag, wear out and break as they get hot and stressed over time
@@GameDevNerd in your idea, what happens to the dust/skin/hair/etc… filtration? I have a customized open test bench at work, and that thing has to inspected and cleaned 2x/month because of our sector’s testing standards demand it. That’s also with the system in the closest specialist mechanics could get to a clean room, which is just a smaller copy of our paint booth. I couldn’t imagine an open system like that in most people’s houses. Especially, after watching the videos of channels like these roasting their worker’s setups. If professionals can’t keep their stuff perfectly clean, how can PC makers expect the average person too. I would honestly love it if we moved to a totally “zero moving parts” design for home computers, and adding custom coolers(fans/liquid/etc..) would be the domain of the specialist market. In that scenario businesses could offload/connect individual computer cooling needs into a centralized system. That kind of system could reduce energy needs and considerably lower the cooling costs in the average cubicle farm.
@@cjwrench07 2 times a month is a bid deal to you? It takes five minutes to fully disassemble it lol Just how filthy is your room/office/workstation anyway that your so worried about it? hit with a duster can once a week and it's taken care of " I couldn’t imagine an open system like that in most people’s houses." Good Lord how melodramatic can you be? It's an open pc case not parts hanging from the ceiling. The only real concern is damage and a skeletal frame would protect it just fine
@@CNCharger he did say that was just prototype and they were gonna make it smaller guess we just wait and see if it stays that big don't think i would buy it either
Too be honest having something that plugs and just works lol unlike watercooling that could leak and ruin your parts alongside a gpu with this slapped to it will be a laugh lol well gpus are gonna get a hotter won’t be long before you need to slap a 500watt cooler on it it lol
@@jerenceaviado7367 if we have arm pcs, i'm committing suicide as someone that already has to deal with multitudes of changes in the x86 isa and having to check so many fucking things in cpuid. if arm becomes widespread, and i have to check even floating point support, i really don't know if i could continue my work while being sane.
Just want to say: Yunus Çengel is a pro at writing textbooks, his 'Heat and Mass Transfer' encouraged me to go deep into cooling of electronic equipment as a research topic
I think Jay has admitted that air cooling is at the point where water cooling is just more of a hassle. He just sticks with it because he is a water cooling enthusiast.
@@koyomiararagi3018 Water cooling is alway more hassle. It is, from the beginning, enthusiast's territory. Therefor it will never die just because something better come along.
im in townsville where we average 33c during summer, we have hit 36c a few days already, im running an 1800x @ 4.2g with a hybrid water cooling system 3x120mm fans, even while bench marking my system the cpu never goes over 60c in a normal room with only ceiling fans running. there is no need for this type of device for the average gamer / user in australia.
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honestly as soon as I heard the term "heat 'pipes'" a good while I did some research because that would mean either it has fluid in it or it's named wrong
LOL the half life of helium-5 is 7.595×10 -22 seconds so that's nearly instantaneous. If that was true then they wouldn't have time to complete the test
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Hey linus! A big fan from India! Why don't you try liquid nitrogen cooling system? Please do video on it. Here is a video of it... th-cam.com/video/WwJvHJ1hyto/w-d-xo.html
@@flippiflippar9022 120$ was the pre-order price and they solved the mounting plate problems... it was a problem on the machine that manufactured it and not on the design of the prosiphon. That being said... it's a bummer to wait several months for the product that when ordered was expected for June-July but will probable arrive by January 2021... well, at least the delay was to ensure the quality of the product so I'm fine with that and also the covid related delays since nothing to be done about that. All in all... it's seems a good option for the price as a cooler that well be usable when I upgrade to a Threadripper.
1:53 I tried to escape my thermodynamics book by opening this video but looks like the book is supernatural and it implemented itself inside Linus' video...
5:10 As soon I heard "prototype" and the fact that they are planning to reduce it's size by up 1/3 of the size, I became very concerned. Hopefully this doesn't turn out like another dead end or fails to materialize. I really do wish them the best though.
@Advocatus Diaboli that is what he meant with "alive" yeah i am not interested in spending $700 on my liquid cooling i will just take a good air cooler like this or nhd15 and be done with it.
@Advocatus Diaboli I really don't know how a custom loop can keep up with a 500W CPU and a 400W GPU. Maybe if you have 2 loops in 1 case. And by the time you manage to fit 3x 360mm rads into a big case which supports so many, how much would you have spent, compared to this Thermosiphon cooler? You may have a point if we talk about acoustics, but this thing is not far off. As LTT pointed out in another comment, this thing with Noctua fans performs 1 to 2 C worse. It's size looks like 2x 240mm rads stacked together. If we are to believe that the final version will only have the thickness of 1 thicker 240mm rad and have the same performance, @ $150 MSRP it will be hard to beat. And I can't wait to see what it could do if it was made of copper.
You know that you are (Cold as, cold as) (ice) As cold as ice to me (Cold as, cold as, cold as) (ice) Cold as ice I know (You're as cold as ice) Oh, yes I know (Cold as ice)
Haha, saw that Thermodynamics image at 1:53 and immediately recognized the book that image was taken from and remembered my Thermodynamics engineering lessons with that same book here in Panama 😍. Nice ride through memory lane, I really remember seeing that same image as it was yesterday. Thanks Linus 🤓
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Actually, any heatpipe can work as a thermosiphon. You just need to put it vertically and gravity will help the wick or grooves (you don't always need a wick, only a profile with enough capillary pressure) to achieve higher flow. Also, the absolute best solution to cool a CPU while limiting the weight on the CPU/motherboard is a loop heat pipes where you put the evaporator on the CPU (with a reservoir and a wick) and the condenser in a separate radiator with fans (the two being linked by pipes like in a liquid water cooled loop). This is basically how we cool down the electronic of every spacecrafts (minus the fan obviously as we are limited to radiative cooling at the radiator side). Source : I'm an engineer at Euro Heat Pipes.
I'm pretty sure that the "loop" technology used in this product is that same as what can be found in the NoFan CR95a, and the NoFan CR80eh "By making the pipe very small, natural perpetual circulation of the liquid inside takes place, and heat is efficiently dissipated into the attached heatsink fins"
HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY, Linus crew who reads this. I work at the place where you guys cited the "Boiling Limit" equation! I have been enjoying your videos for years, and always felt smart knowing already how these systems work, but from an R&D perspective. Thank you guys and gals at LTT for featuring Advanced Cooling Technologies here in litte ol' Lancaster PA on a global scale. I will let the company know that they were featured in a video that a major TH-cam content creator made. Here's to business opportunity and free exposure!
@@Skelath , 52mm www.icegiantcooling.com/prosiphonelite Linus talks about the dimensions as if it's uncertain yet they show the final specifications and are talking preorders so I'm not sure what's going on there... also the WEIGHT is similar to a Noctua NH-D15 (both with fans)
I remember when I used to build car engines. Heat was always an issue as horsepower increased. We did the same things to improve cooling and keep the engines running at their optimum temperatures. And considering the heat generated by modern CPUS. I am excited for these newer cooling manners.
A passive Liquid Cooler without Water or pump, and closer to the CPU. A liquid cooler could perform better, but they need to find a better heat conductor than Water and do something about the poor air flow of the tiny radiator.
I wouldn't call it advanced. It really old technology, just put into something new. Honestly in an extreme scenario it still wouldn't beat a custom loop. Then again that scenario may not exist at this time either.
@@joshanonline You'd be hard pressed to find a liquid with better specific heat at room temperature than water, plus it is what the thermosiphon uses (I think) so that'd be more apples-to apples anyway
@@brynclarke1746 The thermosiphon won't be using water, it needs a liquid that boils at the typical temperatures you reach in the cooler, then condense on the fins. So the boiling point of that liquid will probably be around 40-60°C
@@smaug.the.stupendous Here's the link: th-cam.com/video/U-BWEDfrE9c/w-d-xo.html According to linus, this thing is as good as custom water cooling loops. For less than 50% of the price
@@MrParmenio24 and that is cool! I run Red drives for media since at 5400RPM they have been very quiet and more than adequate for my needs. NVMe for performance WD Red for storage.
Thank you for explaining fin efficiency to the masses. I'm a mechanical engineer, or a "thermal" engineer as you put it (there's no such thing as a thermal engineer).
check this out: Scythe Ninja 5 i equipped my rig with it (9700K) and it's so damn quiet and effecient even under load my rig makes barely any sound... jet engines are from the past, dude
If you're running a threadripper at 380+tdp you should expect some level of noise. Linus did mention there would be a version for non-HEDT platforms, possibly fanless.
I like that the rear fan is almost full blocked off, and close to being useless. Now I want a CPU cooler as large as a Full Tower case. Just to cool my single CPU.
What CPU? AMD or Intel should make CPUs that have a built-in cooler that makes you worry about the CPU freezing rather then overheating! If I ever went to Antarctica, I'd bring my Gaming PC/Hackintosh, but no fans, because I'd just put it outside in that water/dust proof case... Maybe some penguin-proof DP and HDMI cables and a penguin-proof power cable would be a new good idea... LTT's new video: $1001 Penguin Proof HDMI Cable! What Next?
Now (aug 2020) its still not shipping. Icegiant now aims for sept 2020. Also the price went up to $170. They now include 4 fans, but no word on the manufacturer of those fans an the noise level.
We're getting slowly to the point of: - This is the fastest most cores CPU on the World - what are those? *points fridge size things* - those? those are the cooler
They're like the reverse of computers as a whole. Started at room size and now smart watches has tens of thousands of times the storage and processing power on your wrist.
@Ian Visser That's something that I don't fully understand. Cases with side fans (as large as 200mm) had become common place for a few years back in the day, but seem to be all but completely dead now. I get that tempered glass became a thing, but it seems there'd still be a market for people who care less about glorious displays of rgb and more about keeping gpu thermals low.
I spoke with the Folks at IceGiant ProSyphon Elite & asked these questions : When will there be an IceGiant ProSiphon Elite for Intels Core i9 10900K ? Will it be able to be mounted vertically ? Answer : Thanks for your interest and for reaching out! The ProSiphon Elite is currently compatible with the Intel Core i9 10900K (socket is LGA 1200). It can mount vertically. Question : thermosiphon requires a minimum amount of BTUs/hour to establish siphon, and under minimum flows/heat outputs,the siphon is broken and heat exchange doesn't happen. Will this be the case with this product ? Answer : Our ProSiphon technology is able to quick start under minimal thermal loads and can easily handle a CPU's idle load. While a thermosiphon is an old concept, our thermosiphon technology is the most advanced thermosiphon design out there, with 4 patents and more pending. The ProSiphon Elite cannot operate if the evaporator is completely above the condenser. We've designed the Elite to operate in the vertical orientation. Please note the position of the "stem" (circled in red) that connects the evaporator and the condenser. This stem needs to have a higher gravity potential. Does this make sense? The Elite will be able to mount to an Asus ROG Maximus XII Extreme with an Intel Core i9 10900K- one would just have to make sure it is installed in the correct vertical orientation. Because the Elite relies on gravity to drive the loop,there are no mechanical parts, such as a pump, or leakage failure points in tubing, which severely limits the lifetime of a part. Thus,the Elite has a long, reliable life. Our warranty is 10 years. Sad thing for me is I will be using the Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 32 GB DDR4 - 3200MHz Unfortunately we are not able to order that cooler for you and after looking at the specifications for it, we found that the RAM that is installed has a height that does not meet the DIMM clearance.
i have a kirkland industrial fan that is around 15 years old that i put a sheet of galvanised metal around it in a cone fasion then ducktaped the open end to the rear of my pc where the fan is so it suctions out the hot air, been doing this for years now and never bought aftermarket cooling for the pc, currently using a vega 56 and a 2700x stock air cooling. Only thing that is a catch is i forgot to put the IO shield in before the motherboard so i just ducktaped over the open hole and remove ducktape if i need to use a port on the mobo. For my next build i hope i remember to put in the io shield
@@goldchris1111 Glad to see i wasn't the only sketch engineer growing up. I removed the side panel and attached a old slim box fan from Costco with door hinges. I also taped on used fabric softener sheets on the intake side of the fan to reduce dust. Ghetto AF haha
I'm still doing this right now for my 2080Ti blacks. Two in NVlink in a Lian Li case = horrid temp issues. And it does not matter the spacing of the cards, which card is being used as a primary card, etc. The heat is just ridiculous. Box fan does a good job keeping them at low temps until I can get proper water cooling.
Box fan is really effective for reducing the ambient temp. It's just 100 watts running a large surface at a low speed instead of the same on a small fan at high speed, which is what you need to cool the individual components.
Right? He started to say "Well, couldn't you just make the fins longer?" and I knew right where it was going! I was actually awake that day in thermo xD
Here's a quick thought: what about reversing the flow direction of the top case fans? This would only work if the fans on the thermosyphon are configured to push air across it (because there'd be more air pressure pulling air across the thermosyphon)
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looks like der 8auer is involved in it so it will be at the very least an okay product. personally im very interested in this cooler when it comes to the market
If the cooler is doing a phase change under vacuum, it is still a heatpipe. In this case, it is the old-fashioned _gravity return_ fluid, but it is still a heatpipe. The thermosiphon variation is nice, but it is NOT the kind used in the old automotive cooling system picture.
You don't have to worry about CPU temps if your cpu socket is no longer attached to your motherboard
Not sure how removing the cpu from the motherboard eliminates the need to cool the cpu. The cpu will still oveheat without a way to disperse the heat created under load. Removing the cpu from the motherboard would open up new ways of cooling though.
@Klaa2 yep
@@progenji6407 something go over my head?
@@progenji6407 Alright then, Well I'm just going to leave this here for ppl to laugh at. Agreed it's massive. Pretty sure the case wont close.
Oh, snap!
i'll see myself out...
Linus I just finished my semester of thermodynamics and was trying to forget the pain and misery.
Ahh don't worry, you'll love thermo when you get into Heat Transfer c:
I just studied heat transfer in fins this semester. Had some PTSD watching this video
my brother is in college for engineering, maybe you two can smash this thing to pieces
Wait till you take transport phenomena.....heat and mass transfer with fluid mechanics.....
Once you are done with thermo, you literally see it everywhere and your life will never know peace.
I'm just imagining this thing doing a back flip with a chunk of my mobo attached after putting my case right-side up.
It looks to have a back plate and a mounting module that detaches from the actual cooler. If it falls, don't worry about your motherboard. It's taking the whole CPU and socket with it. Lmao.
yes
*front flip
At least you had better temps than a liquid cooler right?
Dropped my case (whoops) when packing up for a lan party, luckily I had the GPU removed. But man, with such a device, it would have damaged a lot.
Anything "first quarter of 2020" seems optimistic in retrospect
Yeah my pre-order is rotting somewhere :(
@@unkid4n Well, to my country they will ship by sea so it will arrive at best by the end of this year and more likely it will be here by the end of January 2021... without considering the delay at customs that are a highly inefficient these days.
damn you right
@@unkid4n According to a mid-October update the first pallet of coolers is on the way to their facility from the manufacturer, looks like November or December for pre-orders to get delivered
@@obedulloa6219 Agreed, I think we should fire their marketting team and hire more blue collar workers to punch these out.
"it doesn't look like much right now"
My first thought was it looks like *too* much already
Hahaha !
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@@stevethea5250 say what ? can you talk like a normal person ?
Sous Vide Everything flashbacks intensify
I think i will buy the Arctic Freezer 50,it's smaller,cheaper and very close in performance.
This technology was used long time ago in old soviets era, refrigerators .... and is really reliable ( lasts for decades )
Stalin playing a long game to ensure world wide socialism I tell you hwat, bobbeh.
After the apocalypse, only soviet era hardware will remain functional. 😂 No complex electronics to fry and simple, but reliable construction.
@@bgtubber People are still building guitar amplifiers using soviet valves, so some guitar players will still be able to djent after the apocalypse.
@Evil Robin Oh comeon... It is how our refrigerators work, and ground heating of our homes work. The fluid boils at low temperature, the shift from liquid to gas pulls energy out of it's surroundings (endotherm reaction), in this case heat from the cpu. The vapor goes somewhere else, and liquifies back, releasing energy in the shift (exotherm). The whole thing is lead around in a loop.
Growing up in eastern europe, I remember at one point our fridge stopped working. We ended up buying a 2nd hand "Zil" - some russian fridge that someone who had it for decades (it was the rounded edge kind) had for sale - that someone left the country and came to the US. Got 2 guys to help move it, brought it home, plugged it in, ran ok, only thing was, being that it wasn't an iceless freezer, the freezer potion froze over causing 1+ inch thick ice in 1-2 days... that wasn't normal. We asked the previous owner (via a very expensive phone call) if that was the case when they had it and they said no... long story short, we found out the thing had an external 220v to 110v transformer box that the movers forgot to pick up. It ran for about 3 months at 220v, basically overclocked... didn't skip a beat.
That thing looks like it will crack my motherboard
the motherboard is not what is supporting the load of the heat-sink, it just looks that way
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Ace so what is holding it?
@@nestormoctezuma4695 the case
I think sponsor users can't just not comment.
The phase changes from liquid to gas result in much higher heat transfer. Thats why HVAC uses refrigerants with low boiling points. Thats why the thermosiphon works better than liquid coolers
"It should last around ten lifetimes."
Once the investors hear this, they'll reduce the lifespan by 99%
the CPU manufacturers already do the job for them. The cooler might last forever but the supported sockets will be outdated in 5 years tops.
@@megapro125 you mean Intel lol
@@megapro125 then they will sell adaptets at 70% the price of the entire cooler like that company i cannot remember thename... the one that sell overpriced products... oh i remember.. Apple
@@jesus2621 noctua sends you the adapters for free
@@tj_2701 we found the amd fan boy that doesn't realise both intel amd only care about your money
Linus : We aren't ready to declare this cooler as the best cooler...
Also Linus : Water cooling is *DEAD*
LMFAO clickbaiting at it's best!
Remember when Linus went through this channel and went one by one trying to kill the clickbait in a stream, and then failed miserably?
Just like how he praised ryzen to no end and then declared he had lost faith in amd until ryzen 3rd gen lol
@@Narcostic That's the clickbait that got me in here. I'm determined not to turn my future PCs into aquariums. The headline gave me hope.
clickbait title lol
Selling my fridge for this. No need to have both anymore.
I laughed out loud
lmao
You should’ve kept your fridge and put the pc in it, problem solved
Axolotlball shouldve put the fridge in the pc
Huge Mattress Gaming what if you get a mini fridge, pit it in the normal fridge, put the pc in the mini fridge and then put an ice pack in the pc
never thought i'd see the day when watercooling was the budget option
@ALIENfx You beat me to it, I came here to say exactly that.
@@aulusflavius9635 the average person won't get a custom cooling system tho
@@nnightkingj but... i am pretty average... lol Yeah, you are probably right.
@@aulusflavius9635 Well you have a custom loop... you ain't average anymore :D
@@BembelinCz I even have TECs that were on GPUs with a water loop and the CPU had a vapor phase change head on it. So yeah, a custom water loop is pretty normal. :p
We have gone from huge ass computers with small coolers to small ass computers with Huge coolers.
*WTF is going on!*
Parts get smaller and they get more hotter and denser and even more hotter lol it’s like cramping 8k in a 1inch square imagine the fucking heat dumbass fools gonna need better cooling before long liquid nitrogen or we get to the point a cpu puts out 1500watts of heat ether way lol
@@jonathanoxlade4252 Well not really, you have a ton of chips without any cooling nowadays. high performance stuff sucks in power only because they shove as much power into it as they can. node shrinkage has continually allowed things to compute at lower power usage. computers nowadays might use 2 or 3 times more power, but they're millions or billions of times more powerful
I can literally see a future with coolers as big as a room since quantum computers being developed today requires almost a cabinet size cooler
@@Jordan-J-Bird ikr
Damn it i just bought a d15s
Me: Gets water cooling in my new PC
Linus: Water Cooling is DEAD
Clickbait
it isn't when you take noise into it.
Depends on the concept of water cooling. I'd use water cooling in my production machine (Videos and 3D Rendering) but with an huge radiator and a buffer of a few liters. Not those little kits (like the shown one) which just 'move' the fan away of the cpu ...
It's like you didn't even watch the video
@@F5alconsHouse Did you even watched the video ?
Linus: goes full geek mode on heat transfer
Me: PTSD Flashbacks to my heat transfer class
enthalpy time
@@ZakiAsir same
Cbeddoe19 Lucky you, mine just made us write them on paper and give it to him as practice, some people just gave him photocopies and still passed the class.
thermodynamics was so hard
Heat loss/ heat gain is such a boring slog. I used to hate it
"Aight I need this"
*Sits in 2,5 x 3 room with no air-circulation*
bingo, exactly!
I want one just so I can heat my apartment with it. Seriously, the fuckers in charge of the central heat system fucking capped the heat at just barely comfortable *if* you have multiple layers of clothes on. Obviously this is in the winter when temps drop.
How are the temps when the fans are swapped with Noctua fans?
Asking for a friend.
~1 or 2C worse
@@LinusTechTips really 🤔 that's odd
@@LinusTechTips how about noctua 3000rpm ippc? I mean I understand but still
EDIT: How about some 38mm thick Delta server fans? Like ones that output 255cfm
@@supernoodles908 Noctua fans might not be as efficient as those Delta fans at high speeds
@@LinusTechTips what about the sound tho?
"it doesn't look like much" it looks like you pulled it out of the lambo.
Linus can be pretty out of touch at times.
Really?
It's a black box. It doesn't look like much.
I always love to see innovation and fresh ideas enter the market. I wish Ice Giant nothing but the best!
Very much so my guy
You're gonna get scammed so much with that sort of mentality.
@@morpheas768 amen.... what abot the phononic hex 2 or the engine 27?
@@morpheas768 No? Wanting to see innovative ideas come around doesn't mean I throw my common sense out the window. Smh.
@@robotslug but they need to be new or innovative. Using phase changes is not new technology.
I really feel that it's time to redesign the way that GPUs, CPUs, and more are housed in cases and mobos, since the design hasn't fundamentally changed in decades. We've got GPUs where you can't easily pick custom cooling solutions without card disassembly, CPUs where huge coolers hang off the sides of them, stressing the mobo, PSUs with cumbersome wiring situations, and now RGB with even crazier cable management. If you rethought the whole situation from the ground up to expect large coolers on both GPUs and CPUs, RGB, better PSU connections, and more, that you'd end up with something very different from the inconveniences we're settling with now. In the custom PC market today, everyone's just making faster horses.
The problems with that kind of generational change in technology (a total tech redesign in your idea) is the same with all others.
Your idea seems to be a total redesign of the entire “tower”, to be re-optimized for products bought/used mostly by gamers.
So, why would the private & public business sectors, which are major investors in the current design ecosystem, invest into a brand new & more game-specialized computer ecosystem?
It’s hard for me to believe, that without them investing billions into buying that new design for entire corporations and government departments. That it would ever become more than the niche product that most current gaming-optimized parts are, and leaving the prices out of reach for the average budget gamer as well.
Maybe they shouldn't be mounted directly on the mobo and shouldn't be kept in a little hot box crowded together ... a traditional case is a kind of silly, old fashioned idea that you have to put all this stuff in a neat little box for consumers. Look at how crypto miners and deep learning folks build their powerful systems ... it's all open racks with GPUs on risers and components spaced out with cables ... no boxes that turn into destructive heaters and no hanging parts in mobo sockets to make them sag, wear out and break as they get hot and stressed over time
@@GameDevNerd in your idea, what happens to the dust/skin/hair/etc… filtration?
I have a customized open test bench at work, and that thing has to inspected and cleaned 2x/month because of our sector’s testing standards demand it. That’s also with the system in the closest specialist mechanics could get to a clean room, which is just a smaller copy of our paint booth.
I couldn’t imagine an open system like that in most people’s houses. Especially, after watching the videos of channels like these roasting their worker’s setups. If professionals can’t keep their stuff perfectly clean, how can PC makers expect the average person too.
I would honestly love it if we moved to a totally “zero moving parts” design for home computers, and adding custom coolers(fans/liquid/etc..) would be the domain of the specialist market.
In that scenario businesses could offload/connect individual computer cooling needs into a centralized system. That kind of system could reduce energy needs and considerably lower the cooling costs in the average cubicle farm.
@@cjwrench07 2 times a month is a bid deal to you? It takes five minutes to fully disassemble it lol
Just how filthy is your room/office/workstation anyway that your so worried about it? hit with a duster can once a week and it's taken care of
" I couldn’t imagine an open system like that in most people’s houses."
Good Lord how melodramatic can you be? It's an open pc case not parts hanging from the ceiling. The only real concern is damage and a skeletal frame would protect it just fine
@@cjwrench07 well, I have a wall mounted, open air PC, I dust it whenever I dust the room. Not really a big issue. Don't need as many fans.
my motherboard: Oi, My Back
Manufactures start adding super huge backplates to add strength and avoid motherboard warp-age >.
@@animered1986 and then they add RGB to it and now we have to route our cables cleanly in the back too
Still, that is one HUGE air cooler. And it looks pretty ugly in my opinion.
@@CNCharger he did say that was just prototype and they were gonna make it smaller guess we just wait and see if it stays that big don't think i would buy it either
When your heatsink is bigger than your PSU you know you have entered the future
Too be honest having something that plugs and just works lol unlike watercooling that could leak and ruin your parts alongside a gpu with this slapped to it will be a laugh lol well gpus are gonna get a hotter won’t be long before you need to slap a 500watt cooler on it it lol
I kinds hope that the future we have more efficient pc.
@@kennyyuliandrika7162 we'll have completely ARM pcs, so I'm counting on that efficiency
@@jerenceaviado7367 if we have arm pcs, i'm committing suicide as someone that already has to deal with multitudes of changes in the x86 isa and having to check so many fucking things in cpuid. if arm becomes widespread, and i have to check even floating point support, i really don't know if i could continue my work while being sane.
@@kennyyuliandrika7162 quantum computers are coming
0:48
linus : it actually managed to beat this.
blind people: a ridge wallet?
XxSampleText123xX this is a good comment
I'm blind and i see what you did there ;)
Das a hawt comment
Well ... to stay fair here ... it certainly cools a processor better than a ridge wallet ... even a blind person can see that.
It is not funny nor morally to make fun of someone's disability.
Just want to say: Yunus Çengel is a pro at writing textbooks, his 'Heat and Mass Transfer' encouraged me to go deep into cooling of electronic equipment as a research topic
The title should be, "installing a refrigerator inside a computer".
Outperforming waterblocks. The joys of phase changes...
good idea, i'll drill a hole through my refrigeration and put my laptop in it to cool it down
P Weezy nah that’s the new Xbox
@@pio2569 3 controllers height ? Get the fuck out of here you moron
@@urboyseth5922 - funny thing is, he's done this too. "Linus Ruins Everything"
Linus: "Water Cooling is DEAD"
Me: Jay is now unemployed.
I think Jay has admitted that air cooling is at the point where water cooling is just more of a hassle. He just sticks with it because he is a water cooling enthusiast.
@@koyomiararagi3018 Watercooling on a GPU is still great.
JayzTwoCents just became JayzNoCents
Aio is dead. It hasn't been much better then high end air cooling for awhile. Real open loop water cooling is where it's at.
@@koyomiararagi3018 Water cooling is alway more hassle. It is, from the beginning, enthusiast's territory. Therefor it will never die just because something better come along.
Gonna need this in Australia this summer even if you don’t overclock.
Get an aircoditioner.
what do I say then
im in townsville where we average 33c during summer, we have hit 36c a few days already, im running an 1800x @ 4.2g with a hybrid water cooling system 3x120mm fans, even while bench marking my system the cpu never goes over 60c in a normal room with only ceiling fans running. there is no need for this type of device for the average gamer / user in australia.
@@grahamdelacey5779
yeah, Radiators are good enough for hot climates. the higher Efficiency of the Radiator already overcomes the ambient Temperature.
@@grahamdelacey5779 your cpu is old man
The production value of LTT stuff is insane these days. Truly impressive!
“Its getting hot in here, so take off all your load”
I am getting so hot / I'm gonna clock some cores down
give me all your load
Cause It's a bittersweet.... Siphoning.... this heaaat. Tryna make wicking work, you're a slave to the LTT pro hacks then you dieeieehhh.
I'll take you down the same sponsored video I've always been down. You know the one that sells you the same VPN, yeah
"It's getting hot, I want to take my load off~"
Pickup line:
Your the AM4 to my 3950X ;)
Or:
I’m gonna out my GPU in your PCI express slot
Linus : Meet the thermosiphon.
.
My motherboard : aight, imma head out.
Underrated
why do i feel like this thing will rip my botherboard in 7 days ?
*aight, imma break up
Normie memes
@coolkid But not on small desks
I had a freon gas cooler in the early 2000s, it cooled my CPU to -30 degrees celcius.
It was an ASETek Vapochill case.
memmmmoirrrieessssssssssss
Gotta love the 90s
DAMN that was a marvel
Looks like a pretty good case actually.
Anyone else just learn now there is liquid in an air cooler?
Me so we’ve been water cooling for years without knowing it
wait its all liquid cooling?
always has been
honestly as soon as I heard the term "heat 'pipes'" a good while I did some research because that would mean either it has fluid in it or it's named wrong
This is what happens when you don't follow the ways of Tech Jesus & learn how they're made from his in depth factory tours.
BTW, air is a fluid...though not a liquid at standard temperature and pressure.
When he said 10 I assume 10 year lifespan, but NO. Around 10 LIFETIMES.
10 lifetimes of what, ants?
@@Danuxsy 10 lifetime of a decaying helium-5
@@jdhnxffuxjfjc3716 😱
I think they mean 1000 years.
LOL the half life of helium-5 is 7.595×10 -22 seconds so that's nearly instantaneous. If that was true then they wouldn't have time to complete the test
Wtf that ryzen chip has more area than my phone's screen.
You sir have a good phone then!
Upgrade to Android. Stop using those kiddy phones.
@@Restrictted I wish there were small screen Androids. Phone screens larger than 5" suck.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872
Me with a Infinity Display 6.4" Samsung A51.
*"You said what?"*
@@samueljones3668 Yep, I have an A50, same 6.4" screen. Hate it. Unfortunately it was the lightest phone you could buy in America for less than $500.
ME: Something feel wrong
12mins later
ME: Where is the LTTSTORE.COM?
LTTSTORE.COM
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Excellent Violet Evergarden avatar.
It outperforms everything else!*
*unless you take margin of error into account.
GPU sag.......
This thing: Hold my beer
How the eff did they mount it to the chassis? They never covered that.
I mean, they did say it would be 30mm instead of 100, keep in mind this is a prototype.
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You could fit a 6 pack on that thing.
If u look real close u can seen it mounts to the case like the motherboard and then I assume it has so way of adjusting to the CPU.
*Linus: I know this cooler doesn't look like much*
Me: Trying to imagine how much space that damn thing will take up.
Yeah its the biggest thing in the PC.
Hey linus! A big fan from India! Why don't you try liquid nitrogen cooling system? Please do video on it. Here is a video of it... th-cam.com/video/WwJvHJ1hyto/w-d-xo.html
@@Hrjoshi465 he have done this before if im not mistaken
@@Belikeimpasta no he hasn't
Am I the only one reading this in the voice of Guga over at Sous Vide Everything?
Putting this on my "wait and see" list.
Wife: Why did you buy a new refrigerator?
Me: It is technically a computer case but doubles as both
The kitchen is the new gaming room.
Like the old LTT videos
so your wife is a gamer now?
Don’t forget to waterproof your system, else except condensation to fuck up some stuff
Add gallons of water at the bottom to increase the fridges thermal mass. Otherwise the compressor might struggle to keep up ;)
PERFECT! Saves getting up to get snacks from refrigerator while gaming
R.I.P. RGB Memory Sticks
Wasted
0:47
You missed the chance to say
*"What's not Bulky is our sponsor, Ridge wallets"*
They don't always know what sponsor will be on what video so hence the cut from the pre-roll.
@@Cowcow211 yes but he could say you know what is not Bulky our sponser of this video and then cut
Linus is losing his edge
They also just use the same videos for the sponsor spots
I would be willing to sacrifice case orientation for significantly better cooling.
"Hopefully in early 2020"
How'd that end up going?
I just ordered one for a September release
@@voltronhasguns Right but Corona
That's handy to know, I was curious about it when I saw this vid again while looking into water cooling
They also upped the price from 120$ to 170$, in case anyone missed that.
@@flippiflippar9022 120$ was the pre-order price and they solved the mounting plate problems... it was a problem on the machine that manufactured it and not on the design of the prosiphon.
That being said... it's a bummer to wait several months for the product that when ordered was expected for June-July but will probable arrive by January 2021... well, at least the delay was to ensure the quality of the product so I'm fine with that and also the covid related delays since nothing to be done about that.
All in all... it's seems a good option for the price as a cooler that well be usable when I upgrade to a Threadripper.
1:53 I tried to escape my thermodynamics book by opening this video but looks like the book is supernatural and it implemented itself inside Linus' video...
I immediatly recognized the figure. Sort of a traumatic throwback lol
@@Unknown-sz8kg sorry no can do, I'll be left with nothing to cover my head.
0:35
"It doesn't look like much right now."
That thing looks like a brick to a skyscraper. And heavy!
Agreed. the numbers dont seem impressive all that much either , maybe wait 5 yrs and see other companies do better.. im thinking.
Linus: "... as the kids say"
Kids: What?
timestamp
@@stevethea5250 3:26
Wait, heat pipes are actual pipes? I thought it's a metaphor and they're just solid copper.
Lol
@@barrybritcher pretty much my reaction
not sure if joking
I didn't know they were called heat pipes. I don't even think I realized they were there to begin with.
That means that “air coolers” are actually water coolers in disguise
5:10 As soon I heard "prototype" and the fact that they are planning to reduce it's size by up 1/3 of the size, I became very concerned. Hopefully this doesn't turn out like another dead end or fails to materialize.
I really do wish them the best though.
@@alistairblaire6001 Agreed. I do hope we see something going forward. I am just skeptical.
Remember the Sandia cooler?
Pepperidge Farm remembers....
Not likely. It already works in this stage. And as was said in video - it isn't huge problem to mount it and use it now while still bulky.
@TJ_ I'm not the only one
same philosophy here. "moar radiation!" "moar fins" "moar cooling"...
Last time I was this early water cooling was still alive
@Advocatus Diaboli that is what he meant with "alive" yeah i am not interested in spending $700 on my liquid cooling i will just take a good air cooler like this or nhd15 and be done with it.
Water cooling is now deader than PC's with leaks.
@Advocatus Diaboli I really don't know how a custom loop can keep up with a 500W CPU and a 400W GPU. Maybe if you have 2 loops in 1 case. And by the time you manage to fit 3x 360mm rads into a big case which supports so many, how much would you have spent, compared to this Thermosiphon cooler? You may have a point if we talk about acoustics, but this thing is not far off. As LTT pointed out in another comment, this thing with Noctua fans performs 1 to 2 C worse. It's size looks like 2x 240mm rads stacked together. If we are to believe that the final version will only have the thickness of 1 thicker 240mm rad and have the same performance, @ $150 MSRP it will be hard to beat. And I can't wait to see what it could do if it was made of copper.
@Mr. Chair i am afraid to even read reeply to me properly but the guy sure is passionate so i wont argue lol
Imagine you hear a loud bang from the pc and it goes off. Turns out the processor and the socket tossed out
1:40 thank you for reminding me of my heat transfer exam on Wednesday.
Lamb get studying. Finals wait for no man.
Lamb Thermodynamics is waiting for you. Finals waits for no one.
Linus: watercooling is dead
Me: is this a rich joke that I'm too peasant to understand?
Yeah Ikr, I'm just happy my fan cpu cooler is still working for my i5 2500k ngl 😅
@@dustindickens1445 he literally "upgraded" that to like 200$, so no.
😞
@@dustindickens1445 Even the 69 doller pc?"
Especially that one!
@CoDGplays why are you talking about your self like that
You think that's impressive, try strapping my ex's heart to it.
That's cold XD
@@yeapthatsme2982 precisely
Nah mate too cold
You know that you are
(Cold as, cold as) (ice)
As cold as ice to me
(Cold as, cold as, cold as) (ice)
Cold as ice I know
(You're as cold as ice)
Oh, yes I know
(Cold as ice)
Luis Bautista that’s too cold mate
Haha, saw that Thermodynamics image at 1:53 and immediately recognized the book that image was taken from and remembered my Thermodynamics engineering lessons with that same book here in Panama 😍. Nice ride through memory lane, I really remember seeing that same image as it was yesterday. Thanks Linus 🤓
"These fans our loud"
Meanwhile my PC sounds like an old Diesel engine.
our loud? are loud?
I feel you. My PC use to sound like a Metallica concert until I got a new mobo where I could actually adjust fan curves
jamie marshall 👮🚓🚨🚨
(laughs in 46cc laptop)
it goes RING DING DING every time i watch youtube
@@22cj57 your pc is crazy frog?
Can't wait to put another computer case inside my computer case.
Yo dawg, I heard you like computer cases...
and then mount your computer case inside a Caselabs tower, and mount that inside a server rack.
genius
Linus: "...it managed to beat THIS!"
Other Linus Vid: so did a NH-D15.
Wasn't that a NH-U12A? So the NH-D15 would have beat it even more handily
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@@HelenGPitts aight dawg be humble
but in that vid I think they were testing consumer cpu's. not threadripper 2 with 300+ watts of power consumption
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Actually, any heatpipe can work as a thermosiphon. You just need to put it vertically and gravity will help the wick or grooves (you don't always need a wick, only a profile with enough capillary pressure) to achieve higher flow. Also, the absolute best solution to cool a CPU while limiting the weight on the CPU/motherboard is a loop heat pipes where you put the evaporator on the CPU (with a reservoir and a wick) and the condenser in a separate radiator with fans (the two being linked by pipes like in a liquid water cooled loop). This is basically how we cool down the electronic of every spacecrafts (minus the fan obviously as we are limited to radiative cooling at the radiator side). Source : I'm an engineer at Euro Heat Pipes.
I'm pretty sure that the "loop" technology used in this product is that same as what can be found in the NoFan CR95a, and the NoFan CR80eh
"By making the pipe very small, natural perpetual circulation of the liquid inside takes place, and heat is efficiently dissipated into the attached heatsink fins"
Vodka cooling is way better
th-cam.com/video/IYTJfLyo_vE/w-d-xo.html
@@PC_CERTIFIED yes
Jokes aside, its a pretty bad idea.
@@l__l2328 wdym if u check out the link its a good cooling system
Alcohol would destroy plastics and the tubing in long run
HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY,
Linus crew who reads this. I work at the place where you guys cited the "Boiling Limit" equation! I have been enjoying your videos for years, and always felt smart knowing already how these systems work, but from an R&D perspective.
Thank you guys and gals at LTT for featuring Advanced Cooling Technologies here in litte ol' Lancaster PA on a global scale. I will let the company know that they were featured in a video that a major TH-cam content creator made. Here's to business opportunity and free exposure!
Furry
Ew furry, would clap those cheeks namsayin
“Kinda bulky?” What is your criteria for “really bulky?”
Obviously a bit bulkier than kinda bulky.
U never seen his homemade subzero kit
RAM clearance?
considering they had a whole room water cooling i would say they would consider a car radiator really bulky
@@Skelath ,
52mm
www.icegiantcooling.com/prosiphonelite
Linus talks about the dimensions as if it's uncertain yet they show the final specifications and are talking preorders so I'm not sure what's going on there... also the WEIGHT is similar to a Noctua NH-D15 (both with fans)
I just discovered your channel and I have to say it is pure copper! Thank you so much for this high-quality content.
I remember when I used to build car engines. Heat was always an issue as horsepower increased. We did the same things to improve cooling and keep the engines running at their optimum temperatures. And considering the heat generated by modern CPUS. I am excited for these newer cooling manners.
Seems like that would warp the board too over time.
I suppose you could just orient your pc to make it face upwards to avoid that, the final version should cut down on the weight too.
@@kionera96 and possibly add reinforcements that screw into the case
More like warp space and time itself
linus said that its still a prototype and that the final product may be slimed down to a third of that size
@@ObscuraEND if they want the same performance it is likely to be the same wait tho I recon
So, that is an aircooler, with a more advanced heat pipe system.
A passive Liquid Cooler without Water or pump, and closer to the CPU. A liquid cooler could perform better, but they need to find a better heat conductor than Water and do something about the poor air flow of the tiny radiator.
I wouldn't call it advanced. It really old technology, just put into something new. Honestly in an extreme scenario it still wouldn't beat a custom loop. Then again that scenario may not exist at this time either.
@@joshanonline You'd be hard pressed to find a liquid with better specific heat at room temperature than water, plus it is what the thermosiphon uses (I think) so that'd be more apples-to apples anyway
@@brynclarke1746 The thermosiphon won't be using water, it needs a liquid that boils at the typical temperatures you reach in the cooler, then condense on the fins. So the boiling point of that liquid will probably be around 40-60°C
Time to put this on on a GPU as well!
The ship date for the production model is Dec 2020 I would love to see Linus do another video on it.
Video on the retail version of the thermosiphon is out now! Also done by Linus
@@danielo9827 Link?
@@smaug.the.stupendous Here's the link:
th-cam.com/video/U-BWEDfrE9c/w-d-xo.html
According to linus, this thing is as good as custom water cooling loops.
For less than 50% of the price
10:05 Passive version sounds cool!
Shouldn't sound like anything 😀
@@MrParmenio24 and that is cool! I run Red drives for media since at 5400RPM they have been very quiet and more than adequate for my needs. NVMe for performance WD Red for storage.
No karen, you cannot speak to the manager.
Pfff . Come on man , we both know that is next generation is : Сoolant system based on . . . GAMER GIRL BATH WATER .
Who let Eugene in?
Carful he might go for the Ak in the backpack
U and I we are cool right eugene
dimondlord11 Karen took the kids
No you can't see my manager
"10 lifetimes"
Ok, yeah, but if we're talking about unvaccinated kids that's only like, 10 years, 12 tops.
Lol 😂 underrated comment
Preach it
He meant 10 lifetimes of the 7-year warranty. So 70-100 years.
We weren't.
Wait...what about the fact that vaccines are only good for 10 to 12 years max anyway?
We're all doomed...
Ouch, they've bumped the MSRP an extra $50 AND are going for late Q3.
Linus: Intel's high end desktop chip's these days
AMD: I'm confused... in this dimension?
A high end Honda can still exist at the same time as a high end Mercedes.
*grabs popcorn*
@@KC-bg1th Well yeah the new NSX is supercar fast
Frankenstein GPU + ProSiphon
Mobo:(chuckles) i'm in danger
Thats sounds like a great way to get a "single use detachable PCIe Slot".
I imagine a lot of the bulkiness is hiding their engineering
nah. it is the cooling because its like with heatpipes. all the heattransfer is nothing without big cooling fins
Why tho when they gon sell it for everyone to rig later anyways?
@@kugelblitzingularity304 The word "sell" is the reason...
@lando Your ignorance is cringy AF
Yeah. Bulkiness. Now, imagine with RGB lighting.
Thank you for explaining fin efficiency to the masses. I'm a mechanical engineer, or a "thermal" engineer as you put it (there's no such thing as a thermal engineer).
Me: Finally upgrades from air cooling to water cooling.
Linus: Water cooling is dead.
Me: Please say sike right now
I felt the same way when I finally upgraded to 1080p monitors lol.
Fan cooling is better than water so you downgraded.
@@Sarkkoth
Im goong to upgrade to 1080p 144hz lol
2k doesn't matter that much bit frames will make u better at games
Ehh water-cooling is a downgrade from air anyways
You fucked up if you thought watercooling is a performance upgrade. Aesthetic wise, it's a major upgrade.
The 'passive' version sounds really interesting for gamers who want great cooling without a Jet Engine next to them.
check this out: Scythe Ninja 5
i equipped my rig with it (9700K) and it's so damn quiet and effecient
even under load my rig makes barely any sound...
jet engines are from the past, dude
Guys just wear headphones while gaming like you're supposed to and let the rig prepare for lift off.
@@somethingtrulyhorrifying some of us have great sound systems and we like to feel the woofers work. Cans just don't cut it.
@@TheUltimateBlooper spoken like a person that's never experienced the power of my Sony XB700's.
If you're running a threadripper at 380+tdp you should expect some level of noise. Linus did mention there would be a version for non-HEDT platforms, possibly fanless.
I like that the rear fan is almost full blocked off, and close to being useless. Now I want a CPU cooler as large as a Full Tower case. Just to cool my single CPU.
Or make the case be the cooler
What CPU? AMD or Intel should make CPUs that have a built-in cooler that makes you worry about the CPU freezing rather then overheating!
If I ever went to Antarctica, I'd bring my Gaming PC/Hackintosh, but no fans, because I'd just put it outside in that water/dust proof case... Maybe some penguin-proof DP and HDMI cables and a penguin-proof power cable would be a new good idea... LTT's new video: $1001 Penguin Proof HDMI Cable! What Next?
Now (aug 2020) its still not shipping. Icegiant now aims for sept 2020. Also the price went up to $170. They now include 4 fans, but no word on the manufacturer of those fans an the noise level.
“Dope as hell” -The kids
That was very cash money of you, thanks
dope as all hell*
./r/fellowkids
We're getting slowly to the point of:
- This is the fastest most cores CPU on the World
- what are those? *points fridge size things*
- those? those are the cooler
Seems like you havent ever seen any bigger server room :-) pretty common that cooling is way bigger than the rest
@@petrjanousek7613 I meant for PCs, I have seen many server rooms in many documentaries on YT
Quantum Computing?
They're like the reverse of computers as a whole. Started at room size and now smart watches has tens of thousands of times the storage and processing power on your wrist.
pretty sure there are computers that use liquid nitrogen cooling, wonder how much replenishing the liquid nitrogen must cost tho
Best CPU Cooler: Removing the case lid and turning the A/C in its direction.
Poor ppl would understand.
Putting the computer in the A/C cage in the window on your 5th floor apartment.
Your move.
just go to siberia
Poor people don't even have AC they(me) use a normal fan 😄
@Ian Visser That's something that I don't fully understand. Cases with side fans (as large as 200mm) had become common place for a few years back in the day, but seem to be all but completely dead now. I get that tempered glass became a thing, but it seems there'd still be a market for people who care less about glorious displays of rgb and more about keeping gpu thermals low.
@Ian Visser
That's a good set-up, however I'm lazy and prefer a box fan near the case.
I spoke with the Folks at IceGiant ProSyphon Elite & asked these questions : When will there be an IceGiant ProSiphon Elite for Intels Core i9 10900K ? Will it be able to be mounted vertically ?
Answer : Thanks for your interest and for reaching out! The ProSiphon Elite is currently compatible with the Intel Core i9 10900K (socket is LGA 1200). It can mount vertically.
Question : thermosiphon requires a minimum amount of BTUs/hour to establish siphon, and under minimum flows/heat outputs,the siphon is broken and heat exchange doesn't happen. Will this be the case with this product ?
Answer :
Our ProSiphon technology is able to quick start under minimal thermal loads and can easily handle a CPU's idle load. While a thermosiphon is an old concept, our thermosiphon technology is the most advanced thermosiphon design out there, with 4 patents and more pending.
The ProSiphon Elite cannot operate if the evaporator is completely above the condenser. We've designed the Elite to operate in the vertical orientation. Please note the position of the "stem" (circled in red) that connects the evaporator and the condenser. This stem needs to have a higher gravity potential. Does this make sense?
The Elite will be able to mount to an Asus ROG Maximus XII Extreme with an Intel Core i9 10900K- one would just have to make sure it is installed in the correct vertical orientation.
Because the Elite relies on gravity to drive the loop,there are no mechanical parts, such as a pump, or leakage failure points in tubing, which severely limits the lifetime of a part. Thus,the Elite has a long, reliable life. Our warranty is 10 years.
Sad thing for me is I will be using the Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 32 GB DDR4 - 3200MHz
Unfortunately we are not able to order that cooler for you and after looking at the specifications for it, we found that the RAM that is installed has a height that does not meet the DIMM clearance.
When I was in my teens without money my method of cooling my home built PC was a giant box fan strapped to the side. It..... Kinda helped. lol
i have a kirkland industrial fan that is around 15 years old that i put a sheet of galvanised metal around it in a cone fasion then ducktaped the open end to the rear of my pc where the fan is so it suctions out the hot air, been doing this for years now and never bought aftermarket cooling for the pc, currently using a vega 56 and a 2700x stock air cooling. Only thing that is a catch is i forgot to put the IO shield in before the motherboard so i just ducktaped over the open hole and remove ducktape if i need to use a port on the mobo. For my next build i hope i remember to put in the io shield
@@goldchris1111 Glad to see i wasn't the only sketch engineer growing up. I removed the side panel and attached a old slim box fan from Costco with door hinges. I also taped on used fabric softener sheets on the intake side of the fan to reduce dust. Ghetto AF haha
I'm still doing this right now for my 2080Ti blacks.
Two in NVlink in a Lian Li case = horrid temp issues.
And it does not matter the spacing of the cards, which card is being used as a primary card, etc.
The heat is just ridiculous.
Box fan does a good job keeping them at low temps until I can get proper water cooling.
Box fan is really effective for reducing the ambient temp. It's just 100 watts running a large surface at a low speed instead of the same on a small fan at high speed, which is what you need to cool the individual components.
@@goldchris1111 any pic?
Linus: "Thermosiphone simply uses gravity!"
Flat Earthers: "So it's FAKE!"
How many times did you post this comment my dude?
TH-cam error :D If I delete one all of them would be deleted lol
@@MrMovieMan941 That's wild :P lol
@Paraponera T Some do
I don't care about flat earthers.
But will they manufacture a reversed model for the Australians?
1:48 ayyy, that was my heat transfer book back when I took that class.
Right? He started to say "Well, couldn't you just make the fins longer?" and I knew right where it was going! I was actually awake that day in thermo xD
Lol neeeerd
@@iscrewy and you're a dumbass
@@HoloScope Make sure you are using correct grammar when you are calling someone "dumb".
You're*
Made yourself look stupid there
Here's a quick thought: what about reversing the flow direction of the top case fans? This would only work if the fans on the thermosyphon are configured to push air across it (because there'd be more air pressure pulling air across the thermosyphon)
Never ever ever promote pre-ordering, especially for a product that is only still in the prototyping stage.
okay
“I’d give this a big, I guess so?” On a sponsored video, I’d hardly call that a pre order plug..
I regret not pre ordering on Metro Exodus on Steam.
@@PlittHD Don't worry, Metro Exodus is not as good as the earlier titles. Metro meets Far Cry, where the best moments is when it get's more linear in the between open map moments. If you are curious though, you can get the game with Xbox Game Pass, with the MS Store, which has a free trial. Well worth it to avoid supporting Epic, and playing the game legally.
looks like der 8auer is involved in it so it will be at the very least an okay product. personally im very interested in this cooler when it comes to the market
"as the kids say"
Lmao Linus get outta here
"How do you do, fellow kids?"
@@TheEchelon stamp
07:44
Nothing in my life has prepared me to see the words “Fail.” Next to a noctua cooler
If the cooler is doing a phase change under vacuum, it is still a heatpipe. In this case, it is the old-fashioned _gravity return_ fluid, but it is still a heatpipe. The thermosiphon variation is nice, but it is NOT the kind used in the old automotive cooling system picture.
5:20 Will the smaller version be called IceDwarf?
Ice Off Steroids.... or Viagara. lol
IceLittlePerson, is what it prefers.
@@defresurrection Cougar MX330-G case Tempered Glass side
No, it will be the "PriceGiant"
That ain't even a chonkyboi that's a..
*OH LAWD HE COOLIN'*
When they get bigger, we build the PC in the cooler xD
I mean all-silent PCs usually use the aluminium case as a heatsink so yeah. its a pc in a huge heatsink
They already did with oil
Buying this you have to consider you dont need to run the water pump, which will safe you additional money. So for 120-150 this is a very fair price!
TH-cam: 8 comments
Me: can i see them?
TH-cam: NO
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Me:
TH-cam: *updates its damn policy again*
Finally something original
Ikr
You are not missing much they are all spamming "first"
@@Teknickel_ftw true
Linus: Water Cooling is dead.
JayzTwoCents: We will see about that!!!!
Meet the Thermasiphon.
MyRGB ram: ight imma head in
Thermosiphon is how my dad heated our pool with old truck radiators ... it does work pretty well!
Linus with that poppy:
Me: Press F to pay mad respects
F
@Hunni Budgr that's how you know this video is scheduled ahead of time