Bit of a follow-up given the recent news. Generally speaking, I am glad the show was cancelled. Lucasfilm really needs to reflect on the state of their company, and the products they release should be no less than high quality. They need to shift the way they go about making projects, though I also think they should have like a 5-year hiatus after Andor S2. I will still defend Leslye Headland as a creator. I think the environment for shows on Disney+ is not conducive for creators. There are a few rare exceptions (Andor, Wandavision, first 2 seasons of Mando), but generally all these shows on Disney+ are mid to plain bad. Hopefully Disney and Lucasfilm see the diminishing returns as a sign they'll change, but I fear that won't happen. Only time will tell I guess.
@@pieters4288 It's complete garbage with terrible actors, acting and overall costumes etc looked cheap as fuck. The fact it cost 180 million and is star wars related makes it soooo much worse.
@@Vandrock if thats how you feel then that’s fine. But I guess you didn’t go that far into the video because I heavily criticize it for its execution problems. You can still enjoy something knowing it’s not good
@@aolive11 you either are against watching it altogether, or not. there is no inbetween. if you continue to watch it period, then you're one of many still justifying disney doing what it does.
@@KazeMunashiiI’m not sure why there can’t be middle ground here. I slammed the suits for most of my video, and these creators are so crutched, even if they have their own problems. Where was the outcry for Jessica Gao and Robert Rodriquez for She Hulk and Book of Boba? Shows objectively worse than Acolyte. The creators aren’t defenseless, but I’ll always put my number one blame on the executives for not following through on a project If it makes you feel better, I think from now on I’ll be more selective of what Star Wars I’ll watch. It’s the only way Lucasfilm will learn
@@aolive11 the only way they'll learn???? dude, why have you continued to give them a chance THIS LONG in the first place? that's the issue. most people stopped watching yrs or so ago or more. all this talk of giving things a chance or being an ally is nasty, disgusting centrism. you're either for it, or against it, there's no middle ground here as far as its concerned as a business. disney either runs the numbers into the ground, or they dont, and besides that, the story ended a long time ago. people paid tickets to see the story conclude and finish a chapter in theaters each time. then it was over and then they wanted to milk it, infantalize it, water it down, and make it too complex and retconned for anyone to keep up or care. most youtubers as well are driving the very audience they have away with this type of content too. if your entire purpose is to warn people about the very content you show, dont you think one day when they all listen you'll be out of a job talking about something no one watches anymore? seems counterintuitive.
Mate... Love for Star Wars (let's assume it's 100% true Star Wars "Saved her life"), doesn't make you automatically the right person to create something in the universe. No one cares how much she loves it. Only if she is capable of making something good. And is she? No. In the same wave, being inexperienced doesn't excuse her of the garbage she made. Does it indicate problems higher in the hierarchy? Yes. Does it exonerate her? No. This was not a "fan made project". This was a million $ investment. This was her JOB. She is being PAID to do this, she is accountable for it. And "shor time", or "rushed"? What are you talking about? It was poor time management, not lack of time or "rushed". They had the budget, they had the runtime. They were just not capable of doing better, because they lack skill! If a movie can make a better story in ~2 hours, and make me care for characters, then a tv series doesn't have an excuse.
@@_Azurael_ 1) I 100% agree love for Star Wars doesn’t make you the right person to helm the project. You’re correct it doesn’t exonerate her, and I make a point if that in the video, but people online overblow “how terrible she is” when I believe she was dealt a bad hand from the jump because of execs 2) You’re missing my point about short run times. When you go into a movie, you kinda already get a gage for pacing because it’s just “one story.” In a serialized TV show, you have to tell “multiple stories” while somehow making the audience believe it’s actually one. When you’re forced to make episodes that are only 30-45 minutes and in only 8 episodes, inexperienced writers will tend to rush the story because each individual episode doesn’t allow the time to properly explore the story. And tbh, I haven’t seen many serialized shows less than 10 episodes that have good pacing imo, even ones considered good like Stranger Things, because now in that case things are excessively bloated 3) I mention all this because I see a recurring problem on Disney+ specifically and it needs to be addressed. I have a problem with modern TV in general, but ultimately the point of my video is that these shows will not get better until there is a fundamental change in the leadership of these companies
Bro she said star wars is gay and the whole cast thought that i dont wanna hear no victim stories from nobody its either trash or pass and honestly the fighting was good but everything else not story never brought me in to quick in amount of time to get a story as well they needed more character build if thats the case if they want us to like may or osha. The only way of fixing it is changing it or some how making us believe we didnt watch star wars
"Serialized show this short" don't stand a chance? What do you mean? You can tell a full coherent story in way less time. Not like the runtime is a secret for the writers, so they should work around it. And the Witch scene you gave as an example - they had plenty of time to explain their POV to make them sympathetic.
@@bcr_light I agree the writers should work around it, and yes coherent stories have 100% been done in less time before. The problem is these writers end up dragging things out because they think they have time, when they really don’t. Or conversely they speedrun because they don’t think they have enough time. Each episode is 30-45 minutes, so you have to have a satisfying story in that time in order for me to want to continue watching. If you like the binge style, then I guess that issue is kinda fixed. But I don’t personally think many writers balance serialized pacing well
@@aolive11one piece live action did a great job for the amount of content covered. This show is artistically garbage. The themes shown here have already been covered in better SW content.
@@abhayprabhu8951 I agree the themes in the Acolyte have been done in much better SW content. I can't speak much to live action One Piece since I haven't and won't watch it (for an entirely unrelated reason), but it did have an average of hour long episodes. I'm not saying it can't ever work; we can both come up with good examples. But a) on Disney+ they keep the episodes really short so it already makes the shows worse and b) I've personally gotten tired of shows that feel like long movies rather than actual television. That part's just a personal opinion. Captain Midnight explains it much better than me in his videos.
@@aolive11 agreed. I think we both think the same think. They need a shoe runner at Lucas film who understands television style storytelling. But the problem is, they already own one 🤣
Didn’t she originally admit that Kathleen Kennedy asked her what she knew about Star Wars when being considered for her position. She responded “ a guy flys around with a big dog and there’s laser swords” Kathleen responded with “perfect “. So your claim she loves Star Wars is based in a lie
@@PLAtime365 No lol, that’s not Leslye Headland. One of the other writers on the show said that. Headland’s reason for hiring them was to have someone who wasn’t super hardcore on the lore so that the show can work on its own apart from it being Star Wars. For example, Ahsoka as a show doesn’t work super well outside a Star Wars context. Andor does. Now obviously the Acolyte doesn’t do that well on its own or even in a Star Wars context. As others in this context section have mentioned, just because you live Star Wars doesn’t mean you’re a good writer or even understand the lore
Thats how art works. You like it or not. But first, the artist decides, then you do. You don't decide what someone else gets to make. If you don't like something, move on, you didn't like it If you like it, you show support To claim she's no longer allowed to do anything every again, is so entitled. "You failed, so you don't get another chance to get things right and improve your skill" Who cares, they're new directors who will grow up to be like the old directors you worship today...
Yes. More specifically next season really needs to be about Plageuis confronting Qimir about all his shenanigans. I don’t want to see much more of the Jedi
Nobody wants that crap. Fire anyone associated with it and either leave star wars for a few years or make something worth watching instead of cheap looking, badly acted shows.
Great video, man. Nice to listen to a reasoned, mature examination of the issues with this show, instead of the knee-jerk confirmation-bias-based financially-incentivized sh*t-storm that's been most of the coverage of the show. And yes, I also believe that this show was initially supposed to be quite different, and was re-worked and re-shot into a shallow, lack-of-cohesion mess.
Ok my guy......I'm not sure if you are going straight for clickbait,trolling or just wanting to be contrary....because for every point you make about how Kathleen Karen Kennedy is the person with ultimate power at LucasFilm and hires directors....to 10 minutes later sack them for 'creative differences"...so yes she has the overall power - and I'm not q00% sure where I heard this but Ms Headfkland when pitching this - she actually made KkK CRY !?.... Oh and Ms Headfk put her 'wifee' in it and guess who gets to have a scene with the back of Jedi Yoda"s head....Whhyyy....is this supposed to be a way to make sure that she and 'wifee-poo' have the best chance to be in a second series......seeing as all the Jedi and Lesbian Space Witches are all dead.....so there has to be some form of continuity. ......stranger things happened !? But #StrangerThings was an iconic multi award winning show! #JustSaying #SorryNotSorry
So sure, I'm willing to meet in the middle an give her benefit of the doubt. Sure, she is a real fan of Star wars. I'll give you that point. However, I think the main problem of why Acolyte is this bad an their attitude about it when giving interviews, stems from her being surrounded by a group of yes men sycophants who were either too afraid or too greedy to offer actual genuine critique of any work she ever presented. Basically, Leslie is a victim of people blowing smoke up her ass her entire life. An let me be clear, I am not saying this as a dig on her. We've all seen what an echo chamber can do to people's perception. Hell, look at any online forum. So yeah, that's about it for my take on it all. Also, it should become industry standard that any live action show (outside of comedy an niche genres) to have bare minimum 45 min run time. Anything less an like...wtf are you doin? If you subtract the title cards, previously on, credits etc the acolyte avg runtime was about what...15-18 minutes? What the hell did they think was gonna happen.
@@user-rz3ie1fm8c you brought up a great point about the echo chamber. That is very likely at play here. And I 100% agree with these short episode run times. It’s getting ridiculous.
@@aolive11 Jus think about how many plot holes wouldn't be there if they had the proper time to flesh out scenes. The entire cast might not have come off as all having bi-polar. Lol. And on the topic of Mundi. I think the root cause of why it upsets people is because of how pointless it was to have HIM there. Could have just never said his name an no one would have cared. Why choose the ONE JEDI who made a statement about how long it had been since sith were around.... You could argue fan service maybe... but no one liked him. He was considered a terrible jedi, even worse general an all around bad person who didn't view the clones as people. Only good thing about him was how he died. I'll give you $100 if you can find one person who genuinely lists master conehead as their favorite character in star wars. This is why prequel territory is always a minefield. If acolyte took place 200 years into star wars' future or 1000 into the past the show would have been fine an got no flak aside from writing problems
My preschool nephew seems to love the animated versions of StarWars.....I'd even say HE IS a fan....but I wouldn't have him tattoo his favourite Teletubby on himself- then give him the Full-O-Shite Disney + series to do with as he pleases. but then again I'm not Ms HeadBandage or K Karen Kennedy!
@@arbhall7572 well I’m sorry my “clickbait” enticed you to comment before watching further, but I give a full rundown on why I didn’t think the show was complete garbage and why I think the show runner was handicapped from outside influences
Captain Midnight does a great job of explaining my problems with modern TV using another example, Peacock: th-cam.com/video/VJLAeaFVPsA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=b9l8UVVdDEoh-BdA I’ll further explain my points as to how short shows will feel bloated or rushed in a future video, but his talking points are a good start to the discussion.
peacock is free, and you get premium for 6-9 months when you buy a ticket to halloween horror nights/universal as well. as a florida resident, i see no downside. the shows people make today are the problem.
@@KazeMunashiiPeacock has some great perks. Hopefully their marketing and original content gets better cause it’s not doing so great for NBC right now lol
Here’s the thing: it doesn’t really matter what specifically went wrong. What matters is that the result was wrong. In my opinion, the main problem was focusing on and forcing an agenda first, then adapting the story to fit that notion. This resulted in many immersion-breaking moments. Additionally, none of the characters were relatable, so you didn’t care about their outcomes, which in turn made you not care about the story. A lot of things went wrong, but this is just my observation.
@@wolfen8622 Honestly, those are some fair points. While I don't think the agenda stuff was as bad as other shows I've seen, it was still there and noticeable. I think that, plus all the other problems I mentioned, made for an inevitably problematic show
@@aolive11thanks for taking your time and respond to my message! Definitely. All in all, the show just failed to pull me in. I've been on the internet basically since the beginning, and I know when I see bait. Pulling out the Yoda and Plague card is a cheap gimmick; a desperate Hail Mary to bait people into watching and wanting a second season. I'm a huge whodunit enthusiast and know almost every Agatha Christie and Sir Arthur Conan Doyle book by heart. If I may add, the story had countless plot holes while already being quite transparent and foreseeable in terms of plotlines. I literally called every plot from episode 4 onwards, which is a bad omen for a murder-mystery hybrid. Personally, I feel like the content of the show was basically 60-80 minutes forced into 8 episodes. Making whole flashback episodes while having only 8 episodes to tell a story is a bold move that didn’t work out and could’ve easily been reduced to a single episode. Making Stenberg a lead was also something I didn’t understand. No shade, but her acting skills are “questionable,” to say the least. To be honest, I’m sure they will try to fix/explain, for example, the Ki Adi Mundi lore break in season two to cover their asses, too. I actually didn’t really care about the actual “lore breaking,” although it was disappointing, as much as I cared about the “subliminal lore breaking.” Lore is basically just one of hundreds of problems in the show. I understand that Lesley wanted to tell a Sith story, but instead of showing us why the Sith hate Jedis, it resulted in a mess where nobody made any moral sense. That’s why Vader is such a prime example of a very well written character.
@@wolfen8622 some more good points you make. Even though I enjoyed the show (which I’m saying pretty loosely, I won’t be watching the show again), I really could care less for a season 2. It seems so odd to me that a show that was supposed to be about the Sith wasn’t really about them. Might’ve been an executive decision, we’ll never know. I didn’t have any expectations going into the show, so maybe that’s why I’m not as harsh as most people, but I completely understand why it was a turn off for you and a lot of other people. Lucasfilm needs to change
@@aolive11 That's exactly the point. The show tried to be too many things at once and ended up in an incoherent mess. If Lesley wanted to make a point about how both sides are morally flawed (which, again, doesn’t really make sense in the Star Wars philosophical universe), she should’ve told a true Sith story. Where I’m from, we use to say, “too many cooks over salt the stew,” and I think this is true for this show as well. The show was designed to blur the line between good and evil and show that neither is inherently either. Which, okay, no problem with that, but they should’ve told a different story and made us relate to a Sith character. Neither Qimir nor Oshamae could achieve that goal. Then they shoehorned in the Witches as a tool. The Witches were, in my opinion, a device to show the viewer what “true balance” means. Technically, the Witches were meant to be the morally mature ones, but even that they couldn’t pull off. They created a being that's in balance, then they separated Oshamae into two distinct beings to keep the Force in balance-to be honest, I still don’t really understand the logic in that... Like, there is nothing to be gained. Either the world is in equilibrium, or it is not balanced and needs someone to push it into balance, be it good or bad. But following the show’s logic, the creation of Oshamae didn’t make any sense since she basically represents “balance.” That’s what I mean by “the show didn’t know what it was even supposed to tell.” I mean, I get the philosophical standpoint Lesley tried to make, but that's not only misunderstanding what Star Wars is about but also failing to make a story that makes sense. Again, thank you for taking your time.
@@wolfen8622 Thank you for taking the time to comment as well! Your responses are very well thought out. And it’s so true they tried doing way too much. That’s been my biggest gripe with all these Disney+ shows. At the end of the day, as we’ve been mentioning, execution was one of the biggest problems. No matter how badly it misinterprets Star Wars, if done well I could at least say I enjoyed it outside of a Star Wars framework. But that didn’t really happen. Add the political agenda and it brings things down to another level
everything after the original story ended shouldn't exist. genndy tartakovskys clone wars is about as close to 'extra content' i need. if you want a decent film, give the rights to KOTOR to a different studio/company, and make bank. i'm sorry you didn't grow up in an age when star wars was still good, but this is not a great replacement for it.
A lot of games are good. Jedi Fallen Order and Survivor. The Mandalorian Seasons 1 and 2 and Andor as well as Rogue One were all genuinely good additions. Not everything after the OT shouldn't exist.
@@Ψυχήμίασμα naw, maybe just mando, and the fact rogue one exists to fill in 'bothan spy' plotholes. other than that, its unnecessary. it was the story of a farmboy who yearned for adventure, and the downfall of his father and his redemption, nothing more, nothing less. its called a space opera for a reason. it has chapters and then it ends.
@@KazeMunashii Well evidently there's quite a bit more. Andor was still very good. And characters like Ahsoka and the 501st were very well done additions. Nothing is ever "necessary" in this universe, if you really think about it. But if it's already added, and it's good, I merely give credit where it's due.
You defeat your own points. Like, the first point you make is that the story was constrained by the imposition of 6 episodes. You do this after pointing out that other shows managed this fine. So ... Leslie could have. Unless you're argument I that she was blindsided? Your second point is absurd. You don't think The Acolte made stupid decisions? I flat out do not believe you. We can all list them of you like. Your argument here is that Leslie should have been overriden and so not be allowed to make mistakes. Are you serious? It's not her fault for disrupting Canon, it's the people who let her do it? That is frankly absurd. The blame here is first Leslie's, then the people above her. Point 3 There is a difference between portraying the Jedi as flawed, than portraying them as EVIL. You see, Leslie obviously wants you to think of the Jedi as evil, and their punishment as justified, but they do NOTHING wrong in the Acolyte. If you know, I know, and millions of fans know what George meant by balance, then why do you excuse what you called a mega fan from not knowing? Isn't that her responsibility when writing 180 million dollar show? Point 4 The show and writers are overtly ideologically driven. The show was WRITTEN by Leslie. You also list many reasons why the writing sucks ... I agree. Point 5 The show definitely wasn't about the Sith. You make this point. You blame the story. I agree. Who wrote this? Leslie. The show is objectively trash, and your video only evidences this.
@@PaulSimonMcCarthy-fu6ms first off, thank you for the like even if you’re highly critical of the video. 1) I suppose I didn’t make it entirely clear in the video, but the shows that “managed this fine” have longer episode lengths. The episodes on Disney+ are way too short. But even then, I still don’t consider those other shows to be that great. I have a problem with the format overall, some just do it better than others (and an episodic series is much different than a serialized one, so I’m not counting those). I think there also is a possibility she was blind sighted by the short time, but we’ll never know. 2) Like I mentioned, the Acolyte made some dumb choices as its own thing, but when it comes to Star Wars there hasn’t been anything dumber than I’ve read or watched before. And yes, the higher ups are absolutely responsible for not following through on the project. I’m not saying Leslye is defenseless cause she’s the show runner, but at the end of the day the boss HAS to make sure their product is good/up to quality so it’ll sell. Happens in every other business, not sure why it can’t here. 3) You’re missing my point. Yes there’s a huge difference between those 2 things, but my point is that any portrayal of the Jedi being flawed has been so poorly done that you have so many people claiming Gray Jedi is George Lucas’ vision. You can 100% be a huge fan and love Star Wars and completely misinterpret it. Watch Generation Tech’s videos and you’ll start to see what I mean. The Jedi were originally meant to be symbols, not reflections of real people. Many people have forgotten that. Nothing to add points 4 and 5, I agree with you there. At the end of the day, the main point of my video was that there were so many factors into this show’s failure even before Headland wrote the first draft. Most of these types of shows are doomed from the start, and if Disney+ ever wants to be profitable, they really need to shift their outlook on these shows. I’m not gonna defend the show or the show runner to the ends of the earth because yeah, there are a lot of problems with it. I think it’s objectively mid given the brain rotting shows/movies I’ve seen before, but I respect your opinion. Your take, like so many others, is indicative of the wider problem with Lucasfilm not engaging with/respecting fans or their property
When it comes to agenda's, I simply think Disney has overplayed their hand is all. People seem ok with progressive ideas, but they can only disgest so many ideas at one. Disney needs to stick to one progressive idea at a time, per story if that. And also practice _show, don't tell_ when it comes to some of these ideas. I thought the show was ok, but it really just seemed like they really don't know how to write their own material anymore. And yeah, the short episodes you mentioned aren't helping them at all.
A crazy thing is that Headland is a real fan. She accomplished her dream and Star Wars fans should be jealous. She got her fan fiction produced by Disney. The awkward naked scene. College drama class chanting. LGBTQ representation. It’s all fan fiction.
@@Civil_Maniac And we all know how bad fan fiction can get lol. I seriously think with enough experience and better direction this show could’ve been something special. But direction doesn’t seem to be something Lucasfilm is interested in
@@aolive11 why bring in people with no to little experience to direct such a huge show? Wouldn't it be better to give a show to an experienced showrunner and have Leslie be director to a couple of episodes, for her to learn and see how it is done?
@@bcr_light I actually say this in the video, I believe under the section The Lucasfilm Problem. I completely agree with you they shouldn’t have inexperienced directors/writers as the heads of these projects. I think with more experience and direction The Acolyte could’ve actually been something good. But alas, we’ll never know
Yup. Lost all credibility. Like bad stuff all you want. Loving schlock is 100% a thing. But defending it is silly. The only move here is to just lean into your bad taste.
Even if you leave the lore MOSTLY out of it, it is still bad television series on its own. Bad writing all around. Over 180 million dollars spent, where did the money go? It looks so cheap😅 The house of dragon season 1 was CHEAPER than the Acolyte but they made every penny count and it shows.
@@HK23783 Yeah, I’m not sure what’s going on with the budget. Seems to be an issue going around a lot of shows (*cough* Rings of Power *cough*) Maybe I’ve been cursed to have seen some absolutely dogwater shows to think this was ok. I won’t argue the show is good, just mid.
@@aolive11 It has some mid moments. Sol I at least kinda liked, everyone else were terrible. Everyone says one things and then does the opposite. Like, WHY?!?!? Rings of power and Acolyte have same problem what it comes to marketing. They shout from the rooftops about the diversity and such instead letting the show speak for itself. Case in point, House of Dragon. A lot of diverse actors and characters yet nobody gives a shit and likes to show, to boot.Mostly because everyone involved in that show was smart enough to NOT make THAT the focal point.
Was the Acolyte doomed from the start? Yes, but not because of mismanagement or other technical issues - even if I'm sure that those didn't help. The Acolyte was doomed from the start because the people who hold the rights to Star Wars want to "let the past die, kill it if you have to".
That doens't make any sense as seeing how the Acolyte tried to literally rip off past scenes from the OT directly and take things from the Expanded Universe written decades ago and put them on screen and keeps on trying to give us member berries. It's not they want the past to die, they just don't know how to write a good plot. OR good characters.
@@Ψυχήμίασμα I think that's more what they call "key jangling", meaning it's essentially a bait and switch, they summon the fans with nostalgia-bait and then rather than build on it and give the fans what they implied - they "deconstruct" it and replace it with their own vision. Kind of like you come for the "Kenobi" show hoping to see Obi Wan being his witty and badass self, and you get... other things. You are excited to see Luke in the sequel trilogy, only to find out that he's a bitter old man that looks and feels nothing like the Luke you knew and loved, and is only there as a stepping stone for the new Mary Sue character to show how amazing she is.
@@Ψυχήμίασμα Not the Acolyte itself, no. I think the general point he was trying to make is that Lucasfilm doesn’t care about maintaining its IP, and it often opts for political correctness or keeping up its image rather than giving us quality content. So when you have a project like the Acolyte that to some fans is the height of that, you get the current culture war. That plus everything I mentioned in the video makes it virtually impossible to make good characters or stories
The show is a 6 out of 10. I would say it’s better than boba Fett, Mando season 3, episode 9, episode 2, and tales of the empire. It’s about on par with Obi-wan. Sadly years of poor products, awful marketing, and a questionable show runner left acolyte with no other option than being a failure from the get go. Andor surpassed every expectation (side character story, lack luster Star Wars , prequel for a dead character) and still failed on paper. However, I think good word of mouth continues andors success. Acolyte will be forgotten after the reviewers are done with the autopsy. Same as boba fett and Mando season 3
I don't get your rating. For me 6/10 is Andor's first 3 episodes. Understandable conflict, interesting dialogue, fine characters, some intrigue etc... Not great, not terrible. Wasn't sure about continuing it but glad I did because then it ramped up to 9 for me in Andor. Whereas Acolyte's first 2 episodes are 3/10 for me. And from what I heard it didn't get better. What aspects of the show are above average for you?
@@bcr_lighthere is the trouble with a rating scale. A 6/10 is a failure in my mind. Maybe I’m too used to the American grading scale. If I had received a 60% on an assignment or class I would’ve been shown the door. I think I reserve 1-5 as outright failures. Bobafett is probably a 3. Bad action, laughable script, poor acting, and above all lazy. Totally unredeemable without rewriting the last half of the show entirely I could see acolyte being a 5 but I found acolyte more enjoyable than Obi-wan but I think they are about the same quality. So maybe both are a 5 for me? Acolyte does have good moments and I actually think another layer of edits for the script, polished effects, and better acting could have brought it up to ahsoka level. Campy and not great but not bad.
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Bit of a follow-up given the recent news. Generally speaking, I am glad the show was cancelled. Lucasfilm really needs to reflect on the state of their company, and the products they release should be no less than high quality. They need to shift the way they go about making projects, though I also think they should have like a 5-year hiatus after Andor S2.
I will still defend Leslye Headland as a creator. I think the environment for shows on Disney+ is not conducive for creators. There are a few rare exceptions (Andor, Wandavision, first 2 seasons of Mando), but generally all these shows on Disney+ are mid to plain bad. Hopefully Disney and Lucasfilm see the diminishing returns as a sign they'll change, but I fear that won't happen. Only time will tell I guess.
It’s doom from the start because she had no idea what she doing
Um... YES IT IS! She is the showrunner. ALL HER FAULT! She Admits to liking this garbage
it's not garbage though , so that's on you :)
@@pieters4288
It is garbage.
You’d be surprised how much studio interference can do to a show or movie
@@pieters4288
It's complete garbage with terrible actors, acting and overall costumes etc looked cheap as fuck.
The fact it cost 180 million and is star wars related makes it soooo much worse.
If you enjoyed it, then I can not trust anything you have to say on it.
@@Vandrock if thats how you feel then that’s fine. But I guess you didn’t go that far into the video because I heavily criticize it for its execution problems. You can still enjoy something knowing it’s not good
@@aolive11 If sadism is your thing go for it.
@@aolive11 you either are against watching it altogether, or not. there is no inbetween. if you continue to watch it period, then you're one of many still justifying disney doing what it does.
@@KazeMunashiiI’m not sure why there can’t be middle ground here. I slammed the suits for most of my video, and these creators are so crutched, even if they have their own problems. Where was the outcry for Jessica Gao and Robert Rodriquez for She Hulk and Book of Boba? Shows objectively worse than Acolyte. The creators aren’t defenseless, but I’ll always put my number one blame on the executives for not following through on a project
If it makes you feel better, I think from now on I’ll be more selective of what Star Wars I’ll watch. It’s the only way Lucasfilm will learn
@@aolive11 the only way they'll learn???? dude, why have you continued to give them a chance THIS LONG in the first place? that's the issue. most people stopped watching yrs or so ago or more. all this talk of giving things a chance or being an ally is nasty, disgusting centrism. you're either for it, or against it, there's no middle ground here as far as its concerned as a business. disney either runs the numbers into the ground, or they dont, and besides that, the story ended a long time ago. people paid tickets to see the story conclude and finish a chapter in theaters each time. then it was over and then they wanted to milk it, infantalize it, water it down, and make it too complex and retconned for anyone to keep up or care. most youtubers as well are driving the very audience they have away with this type of content too. if your entire purpose is to warn people about the very content you show, dont you think one day when they all listen you'll be out of a job talking about something no one watches anymore? seems counterintuitive.
Mate... Love for Star Wars (let's assume it's 100% true Star Wars "Saved her life"), doesn't make you automatically the right person to create something in the universe.
No one cares how much she loves it. Only if she is capable of making something good. And is she? No.
In the same wave, being inexperienced doesn't excuse her of the garbage she made.
Does it indicate problems higher in the hierarchy? Yes. Does it exonerate her? No.
This was not a "fan made project". This was a million $ investment. This was her JOB. She is being PAID to do this, she is accountable for it.
And "shor time", or "rushed"? What are you talking about? It was poor time management, not lack of time or "rushed".
They had the budget, they had the runtime. They were just not capable of doing better, because they lack skill!
If a movie can make a better story in ~2 hours, and make me care for characters, then a tv series doesn't have an excuse.
@@_Azurael_ 1) I 100% agree love for Star Wars doesn’t make you the right person to helm the project. You’re correct it doesn’t exonerate her, and I make a point if that in the video, but people online overblow “how terrible she is” when I believe she was dealt a bad hand from the jump because of execs
2) You’re missing my point about short run times. When you go into a movie, you kinda already get a gage for pacing because it’s just “one story.” In a serialized TV show, you have to tell “multiple stories” while somehow making the audience believe it’s actually one. When you’re forced to make episodes that are only 30-45 minutes and in only 8 episodes, inexperienced writers will tend to rush the story because each individual episode doesn’t allow the time to properly explore the story. And tbh, I haven’t seen many serialized shows less than 10 episodes that have good pacing imo, even ones considered good like Stranger Things, because now in that case things are excessively bloated
3) I mention all this because I see a recurring problem on Disney+ specifically and it needs to be addressed. I have a problem with modern TV in general, but ultimately the point of my video is that these shows will not get better until there is a fundamental change in the leadership of these companies
Just fyi, when it comes to the 'chapek era', everything that he walked in to were things that were green-lit and arranged by Iger before he left.
@@georgeb8328 thank you. I suppose I should’ve known that but I guess it was easier to blame him for some reason
I personally loved the fight scenes, it brought me back to episode 3 a bit
Bro she said star wars is gay and the whole cast thought that i dont wanna hear no victim stories from nobody its either trash or pass and honestly the fighting was good but everything else not story never brought me in to quick in amount of time to get a story as well they needed more character build if thats the case if they want us to like may or osha. The only way of fixing it is changing it or some how making us believe we didnt watch star wars
"Serialized show this short" don't stand a chance? What do you mean? You can tell a full coherent story in way less time. Not like the runtime is a secret for the writers, so they should work around it. And the Witch scene you gave as an example - they had plenty of time to explain their POV to make them sympathetic.
@@bcr_light I agree the writers should work around it, and yes coherent stories have 100% been done in less time before.
The problem is these writers end up dragging things out because they think they have time, when they really don’t. Or conversely they speedrun because they don’t think they have enough time. Each episode is 30-45 minutes, so you have to have a satisfying story in that time in order for me to want to continue watching.
If you like the binge style, then I guess that issue is kinda fixed. But I don’t personally think many writers balance serialized pacing well
@@aolive11one piece live action did a great job for the amount of content covered. This show is artistically garbage. The themes shown here have already been covered in better SW content.
@@abhayprabhu8951 I agree the themes in the Acolyte have been done in much better SW content.
I can't speak much to live action One Piece since I haven't and won't watch it (for an entirely unrelated reason), but it did have an average of hour long episodes.
I'm not saying it can't ever work; we can both come up with good examples. But a) on Disney+ they keep the episodes really short so it already makes the shows worse and b) I've personally gotten tired of shows that feel like long movies rather than actual television. That part's just a personal opinion. Captain Midnight explains it much better than me in his videos.
@@aolive11 agreed. I think we both think the same think. They need a shoe runner at Lucas film who understands television style storytelling. But the problem is, they already own one 🤣
Didn’t she originally admit that Kathleen Kennedy asked her what she knew about Star Wars when being considered for her position. She responded “ a guy flys around with a big dog and there’s laser swords” Kathleen responded with “perfect “. So your claim she loves Star Wars is based in a lie
@@PLAtime365 No lol, that’s not Leslye Headland.
One of the other writers on the show said that. Headland’s reason for hiring them was to have someone who wasn’t super hardcore on the lore so that the show can work on its own apart from it being Star Wars. For example, Ahsoka as a show doesn’t work super well outside a Star Wars context. Andor does.
Now obviously the Acolyte doesn’t do that well on its own or even in a Star Wars context. As others in this context section have mentioned, just because you live Star Wars doesn’t mean you’re a good writer or even understand the lore
She had two options , make something the fans wanted , or make something she wanted ,she choose the wrong option , her job was to get viewers in .....
Thats how art works.
You like it or not.
But first, the artist decides, then you do.
You don't decide what someone else gets to make.
If you don't like something, move on, you didn't like it
If you like it, you show support
To claim she's no longer allowed to do anything every again, is so entitled.
"You failed, so you don't get another chance to get things right and improve your skill"
Who cares, they're new directors who will grow up to be like the old directors you worship today...
Qimir is the future of the show if they want to make future seasons work.
Yes. More specifically next season really needs to be about Plageuis confronting Qimir about all his shenanigans. I don’t want to see much more of the Jedi
Nobody wants that crap.
Fire anyone associated with it and either leave star wars for a few years or make something worth watching instead of cheap looking, badly acted shows.
Disney speed running into obscurity while skidding over rainbow sludge
Great video, man. Nice to listen to a reasoned, mature examination of the issues with this show, instead of the knee-jerk confirmation-bias-based financially-incentivized sh*t-storm that's been most of the coverage of the show. And yes, I also believe that this show was initially supposed to be quite different, and was re-worked and re-shot into a shallow, lack-of-cohesion mess.
Thank you for the nice comment, and thank you for taking the time to watch my video!
I pretty much have the same feelings about the show. Worst publicity and marketing ever.
Ur spot on!
Ok my guy......I'm not sure if you are going straight for clickbait,trolling or just wanting to be contrary....because for every point you make about how Kathleen Karen Kennedy is the person with ultimate power at LucasFilm and hires directors....to 10 minutes later sack them for 'creative differences"...so yes she has the overall power - and I'm not q00% sure where I heard this but Ms Headfkland when pitching this - she actually made KkK CRY !?.... Oh and Ms Headfk put her 'wifee' in it and guess who gets to have a scene with the back of Jedi Yoda"s head....Whhyyy....is this supposed to be a way to make sure that she and 'wifee-poo' have the best chance to be in a second series......seeing as all the Jedi and Lesbian Space Witches are all dead.....so there has to be some form of continuity. ......stranger things happened !? But #StrangerThings was an iconic multi award winning show!
#JustSaying
#SorryNotSorry
So sure, I'm willing to meet in the middle an give her benefit of the doubt. Sure, she is a real fan of Star wars. I'll give you that point. However, I think the main problem of why Acolyte is this bad an their attitude about it when giving interviews, stems from her being surrounded by a group of yes men sycophants who were either too afraid or too greedy to offer actual genuine critique of any work she ever presented. Basically, Leslie is a victim of people blowing smoke up her ass her entire life. An let me be clear, I am not saying this as a dig on her.
We've all seen what an echo chamber can do to people's perception. Hell, look at any online forum.
So yeah, that's about it for my take on it all.
Also, it should become industry standard that any live action show (outside of comedy an niche genres) to have bare minimum 45 min run time. Anything less an like...wtf are you doin? If you subtract the title cards, previously on, credits etc the acolyte avg runtime was about what...15-18 minutes?
What the hell did they think was gonna happen.
@@user-rz3ie1fm8c you brought up a great point about the echo chamber. That is very likely at play here.
And I 100% agree with these short episode run times. It’s getting ridiculous.
@@aolive11 Jus think about how many plot holes wouldn't be there if they had the proper time to flesh out scenes. The entire cast might not have come off as all having bi-polar. Lol.
And on the topic of Mundi. I think the root cause of why it upsets people is because of how pointless it was to have HIM there. Could have just never said his name an no one would have cared. Why choose the ONE JEDI who made a statement about how long it had been since sith were around....
You could argue fan service maybe... but no one liked him. He was considered a terrible jedi, even worse general an all around bad person who didn't view the clones as people. Only good thing about him was how he died. I'll give you $100 if you can find one person who genuinely lists master conehead as their favorite character in star wars.
This is why prequel territory is always a minefield. If acolyte took place 200 years into star wars' future or 1000 into the past the show would have been fine an got no flak aside from writing problems
My preschool nephew seems to love the animated versions of StarWars.....I'd even say HE IS a fan....but I wouldn't have him tattoo his favourite Teletubby on himself- then give him the Full-O-Shite Disney + series to do with as he pleases.
but then again I'm not Ms HeadBandage or K Karen Kennedy!
@@TheEverSoTalented Yeah, kennedy does have some serious "My other car is an Endor" bumper sticker vibes goin on
She isn't talentless. I like her show Russian Doll
Eeeek.....the point of a click bait title is to get folk to pay attention for a minute. You gotta twist away from the title within a minute....
@@arbhall7572 well I’m sorry my “clickbait” enticed you to comment before watching further, but I give a full rundown on why I didn’t think the show was complete garbage and why I think the show runner was handicapped from outside influences
No!! No Defense of the Acolyte!! I'm outta here!! 😂🤣 Seriously.
Captain Midnight does a great job of explaining my problems with modern TV using another example, Peacock:
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I’ll further explain my points as to how short shows will feel bloated or rushed in a future video, but his talking points are a good start to the discussion.
peacock is free, and you get premium for 6-9 months when you buy a ticket to halloween horror nights/universal as well. as a florida resident, i see no downside. the shows people make today are the problem.
@@KazeMunashiiPeacock has some great perks. Hopefully their marketing and original content gets better cause it’s not doing so great for NBC right now lol
Here’s the thing: it doesn’t really matter what specifically went wrong. What matters is that the result was wrong. In my opinion, the main problem was focusing on and forcing an agenda first, then adapting the story to fit that notion. This resulted in many immersion-breaking moments. Additionally, none of the characters were relatable, so you didn’t care about their outcomes, which in turn made you not care about the story. A lot of things went wrong, but this is just my observation.
@@wolfen8622 Honestly, those are some fair points. While I don't think the agenda stuff was as bad as other shows I've seen, it was still there and noticeable. I think that, plus all the other problems I mentioned, made for an inevitably problematic show
@@aolive11thanks for taking your time and respond to my message!
Definitely. All in all, the show just failed to pull me in. I've been on the internet basically since the beginning, and I know when I see bait. Pulling out the Yoda and Plague card is a cheap gimmick; a desperate Hail Mary to bait people into watching and wanting a second season. I'm a huge whodunit enthusiast and know almost every Agatha Christie and Sir Arthur Conan Doyle book by heart. If I may add, the story had countless plot holes while already being quite transparent and foreseeable in terms of plotlines. I literally called every plot from episode 4 onwards, which is a bad omen for a murder-mystery hybrid. Personally, I feel like the content of the show was basically 60-80 minutes forced into 8 episodes. Making whole flashback episodes while having only 8 episodes to tell a story is a bold move that didn’t work out and could’ve easily been reduced to a single episode.
Making Stenberg a lead was also something I didn’t understand. No shade, but her acting skills are “questionable,” to say the least. To be honest, I’m sure they will try to fix/explain, for example, the Ki Adi Mundi lore break in season two to cover their asses, too. I actually didn’t really care about the actual “lore breaking,” although it was disappointing, as much as I cared about the “subliminal lore breaking.” Lore is basically just one of hundreds of problems in the show.
I understand that Lesley wanted to tell a Sith story, but instead of showing us why the Sith hate Jedis, it resulted in a mess where nobody made any moral sense. That’s why Vader is such a prime example of a very well written character.
@@wolfen8622 some more good points you make. Even though I enjoyed the show (which I’m saying pretty loosely, I won’t be watching the show again), I really could care less for a season 2.
It seems so odd to me that a show that was supposed to be about the Sith wasn’t really about them. Might’ve been an executive decision, we’ll never know.
I didn’t have any expectations going into the show, so maybe that’s why I’m not as harsh as most people, but I completely understand why it was a turn off for you and a lot of other people. Lucasfilm needs to change
@@aolive11 That's exactly the point. The show tried to be too many things at once and ended up in an incoherent mess. If Lesley wanted to make a point about how both sides are morally flawed (which, again, doesn’t really make sense in the Star Wars philosophical universe), she should’ve told a true Sith story. Where I’m from, we use to say, “too many cooks over salt the stew,” and I think this is true for this show as well. The show was designed to blur the line between good and evil and show that neither is inherently either. Which, okay, no problem with that, but they should’ve told a different story and made us relate to a Sith character. Neither Qimir nor Oshamae could achieve that goal.
Then they shoehorned in the Witches as a tool. The Witches were, in my opinion, a device to show the viewer what “true balance” means. Technically, the Witches were meant to be the morally mature ones, but even that they couldn’t pull off. They created a being that's in balance, then they separated Oshamae into two distinct beings to keep the Force in balance-to be honest, I still don’t really understand the logic in that... Like, there is nothing to be gained. Either the world is in equilibrium, or it is not balanced and needs someone to push it into balance, be it good or bad. But following the show’s logic, the creation of Oshamae didn’t make any sense since she basically represents “balance.” That’s what I mean by “the show didn’t know what it was even supposed to tell.” I mean, I get the philosophical standpoint Lesley tried to make, but that's not only misunderstanding what Star Wars is about but also failing to make a story that makes sense.
Again, thank you for taking your time.
@@wolfen8622 Thank you for taking the time to comment as well! Your responses are very well thought out.
And it’s so true they tried doing way too much. That’s been my biggest gripe with all these Disney+ shows.
At the end of the day, as we’ve been mentioning, execution was one of the biggest problems. No matter how badly it misinterprets Star Wars, if done well I could at least say I enjoyed it outside of a Star Wars framework. But that didn’t really happen. Add the political agenda and it brings things down to another level
everything after the original story ended shouldn't exist. genndy tartakovskys clone wars is about as close to 'extra content' i need. if you want a decent film, give the rights to KOTOR to a different studio/company, and make bank. i'm sorry you didn't grow up in an age when star wars was still good, but this is not a great replacement for it.
A lot of games are good. Jedi Fallen Order and Survivor. The Mandalorian Seasons 1 and 2 and Andor as well as Rogue One were all genuinely good additions. Not everything after the OT shouldn't exist.
@@Ψυχήμίασμα naw, maybe just mando, and the fact rogue one exists to fill in 'bothan spy' plotholes. other than that, its unnecessary. it was the story of a farmboy who yearned for adventure, and the downfall of his father and his redemption, nothing more, nothing less. its called a space opera for a reason. it has chapters and then it ends.
@@KazeMunashii Well evidently there's quite a bit more. Andor was still very good. And characters like Ahsoka and the 501st were very well done additions. Nothing is ever "necessary" in this universe, if you really think about it. But if it's already added, and it's good, I merely give credit where it's due.
You defeat your own points.
Like, the first point you make is that the story was constrained by the imposition of 6 episodes.
You do this after pointing out that other shows managed this fine.
So ... Leslie could have. Unless you're argument I that she was blindsided?
Your second point is absurd. You don't think The Acolte made stupid decisions?
I flat out do not believe you. We can all list them of you like.
Your argument here is that Leslie should have been overriden and so not be allowed to make mistakes.
Are you serious? It's not her fault for disrupting Canon, it's the people who let her do it?
That is frankly absurd. The blame here is first Leslie's, then the people above her.
Point 3
There is a difference between portraying the Jedi as flawed, than portraying them as EVIL. You see, Leslie obviously wants you to think of the Jedi as evil, and their punishment as justified, but they do NOTHING wrong in the Acolyte.
If you know, I know, and millions of fans know what George meant by balance, then why do you excuse what you called a mega fan from not knowing? Isn't that her responsibility when writing 180 million dollar show?
Point 4
The show and writers are overtly ideologically driven. The show was WRITTEN by Leslie. You also list many reasons why the writing sucks ... I agree.
Point 5
The show definitely wasn't about the Sith. You make this point. You blame the story. I agree. Who wrote this? Leslie.
The show is objectively trash, and your video only evidences this.
Still, I gave you a like for the effort that must have gone into the video, and the attempt to defend Leslie, even if it failed.
@@PaulSimonMcCarthy-fu6ms first off, thank you for the like even if you’re highly critical of the video.
1) I suppose I didn’t make it entirely clear in the video, but the shows that “managed this fine” have longer episode lengths. The episodes on Disney+ are way too short. But even then, I still don’t consider those other shows to be that great. I have a problem with the format overall, some just do it better than others (and an episodic series is much different than a serialized one, so I’m not counting those). I think there also is a possibility she was blind sighted by the short time, but we’ll never know.
2) Like I mentioned, the Acolyte made some dumb choices as its own thing, but when it comes to Star Wars there hasn’t been anything dumber than I’ve read or watched before. And yes, the higher ups are absolutely responsible for not following through on the project. I’m not saying Leslye is defenseless cause she’s the show runner, but at the end of the day the boss HAS to make sure their product is good/up to quality so it’ll sell. Happens in every other business, not sure why it can’t here.
3) You’re missing my point. Yes there’s a huge difference between those 2 things, but my point is that any portrayal of the Jedi being flawed has been so poorly done that you have so many people claiming Gray Jedi is George Lucas’ vision. You can 100% be a huge fan and love Star Wars and completely misinterpret it. Watch Generation Tech’s videos and you’ll start to see what I mean. The Jedi were originally meant to be symbols, not reflections of real people. Many people have forgotten that.
Nothing to add points 4 and 5, I agree with you there.
At the end of the day, the main point of my video was that there were so many factors into this show’s failure even before Headland wrote the first draft. Most of these types of shows are doomed from the start, and if Disney+ ever wants to be profitable, they really need to shift their outlook on these shows.
I’m not gonna defend the show or the show runner to the ends of the earth because yeah, there are a lot of problems with it. I think it’s objectively mid given the brain rotting shows/movies I’ve seen before, but I respect your opinion. Your take, like so many others, is indicative of the wider problem with Lucasfilm not engaging with/respecting fans or their property
When it comes to agenda's, I simply think Disney has overplayed their hand is all. People seem ok with progressive ideas, but they can only disgest so many ideas at one. Disney needs to stick to one progressive idea at a time, per story if that. And also practice _show, don't tell_ when it comes to some of these ideas. I thought the show was ok, but it really just seemed like they really don't know how to write their own material anymore. And yeah, the short episodes you mentioned aren't helping them at all.
A crazy thing is that Headland is a real fan. She accomplished her dream and Star Wars fans should be jealous. She got her fan fiction produced by Disney. The awkward naked scene. College drama class chanting. LGBTQ representation. It’s all fan fiction.
@@Civil_Maniac And we all know how bad fan fiction can get lol.
I seriously think with enough experience and better direction this show could’ve been something special. But direction doesn’t seem to be something Lucasfilm is interested in
@@aolive11 why bring in people with no to little experience to direct such a huge show? Wouldn't it be better to give a show to an experienced showrunner and have Leslie be director to a couple of episodes, for her to learn and see how it is done?
@@bcr_light I actually say this in the video, I believe under the section The Lucasfilm Problem. I completely agree with you they shouldn’t have inexperienced directors/writers as the heads of these projects. I think with more experience and direction The Acolyte could’ve actually been something good. But alas, we’ll never know
@@aolive11 sorry, was commenting as I was watching
@@bcr_light that’s alright lol. I think I left another comment elsewhere talking about serialized shows lol. Thanks for commenting!
"I enjoyed black Adam" aaand change channel
Yup. Lost all credibility. Like bad stuff all you want. Loving schlock is 100% a thing. But defending it is silly.
The only move here is to just lean into your bad taste.
I enjoyed it more than Ahsoka
My problem with Disney is their Michal Bay approach of storytelling. Things just happen.
I disagree with some of your points, but you get a thumbs up from me for being willing to go against the current. 👍
@@WG55 Thank you!
Even if you leave the lore MOSTLY out of it, it is still bad television series on its own. Bad writing all around.
Over 180 million dollars spent, where did the money go? It looks so cheap😅
The house of dragon season 1 was CHEAPER than the Acolyte but they made every penny count and it shows.
@@HK23783 Yeah, I’m not sure what’s going on with the budget. Seems to be an issue going around a lot of shows (*cough* Rings of Power *cough*)
Maybe I’ve been cursed to have seen some absolutely dogwater shows to think this was ok. I won’t argue the show is good, just mid.
@@aolive11 It has some mid moments. Sol I at least kinda liked, everyone else were terrible. Everyone says one things and then does the opposite. Like, WHY?!?!?
Rings of power and Acolyte have same problem what it comes to marketing. They shout from the rooftops about the diversity and such instead letting the show speak for itself. Case in point, House of Dragon. A lot of diverse actors and characters yet nobody gives a shit and likes to show, to boot.Mostly because everyone involved in that show was smart enough to NOT make THAT the focal point.
@@HK23783 Yeah… I didn’t really care too much about anyone after Sol died. Fights were cool I guess. But I couldn’t care less for a second season
Was the Acolyte doomed from the start? Yes, but not because of mismanagement or other technical issues - even if I'm sure that those didn't help.
The Acolyte was doomed from the start because the people who hold the rights to Star Wars want to "let the past die, kill it if you have to".
Good point
That doens't make any sense as seeing how the Acolyte tried to literally rip off past scenes from the OT directly and take things from the Expanded Universe written decades ago and put them on screen and keeps on trying to give us member berries. It's not they want the past to die, they just don't know how to write a good plot. OR good characters.
@@Ψυχήμίασμα I think that's more what they call "key jangling", meaning it's essentially a bait and switch, they summon the fans with nostalgia-bait and then rather than build on it and give the fans what they implied - they "deconstruct" it and replace it with their own vision.
Kind of like you come for the "Kenobi" show hoping to see Obi Wan being his witty and badass self, and you get... other things.
You are excited to see Luke in the sequel trilogy, only to find out that he's a bitter old man that looks and feels nothing like the Luke you knew and loved, and is only there as a stepping stone for the new Mary Sue character to show how amazing she is.
@@Ψυχήμίασμα Not the Acolyte itself, no. I think the general point he was trying to make is that Lucasfilm doesn’t care about maintaining its IP, and it often opts for political correctness or keeping up its image rather than giving us quality content. So when you have a project like the Acolyte that to some fans is the height of that, you get the current culture war. That plus everything I mentioned in the video makes it virtually impossible to make good characters or stories
#Leslyeknew
The show is a 6 out of 10. I would say it’s better than boba Fett, Mando season 3, episode 9, episode 2, and tales of the empire. It’s about on par with Obi-wan. Sadly years of poor products, awful marketing, and a questionable show runner left acolyte with no other option than being a failure from the get go. Andor surpassed every expectation (side character story, lack luster Star Wars , prequel for a dead character) and still failed on paper. However, I think good word of mouth continues andors success. Acolyte will be forgotten after the reviewers are done with the autopsy. Same as boba fett and Mando season 3
@@Civil_Maniac very well put
I don't get your rating. For me 6/10 is Andor's first 3 episodes. Understandable conflict, interesting dialogue, fine characters, some intrigue etc... Not great, not terrible. Wasn't sure about continuing it but glad I did because then it ramped up to 9 for me in Andor. Whereas Acolyte's first 2 episodes are 3/10 for me. And from what I heard it didn't get better. What aspects of the show are above average for you?
@@bcr_lighthere is the trouble with a rating scale. A 6/10 is a failure in my mind. Maybe I’m too used to the American grading scale. If I had received a 60% on an assignment or class I would’ve been shown the door.
I think I reserve 1-5 as outright failures. Bobafett is probably a 3. Bad action, laughable script, poor acting, and above all lazy. Totally unredeemable without rewriting the last half of the show entirely
I could see acolyte being a 5 but I found acolyte more enjoyable than Obi-wan but I think they are about the same quality. So maybe both are a 5 for me?
Acolyte does have good moments and I actually think another layer of edits for the script, polished effects, and better acting could have brought it up to ahsoka level. Campy and not great but not bad.