Captain Kirk wants a third alternative
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"It's a new life form, Jim, wondrous, intelligent, beyond our understanding."
"Thanks, Bones, how do we kill it?"
It was a parasite it fed off people.
@@speedracer1945 Yeah, sorta like -- well -- people.
If we had Spock and McCoy working on Covid they would resolve it in an hour!
42 mins
@@amusementguy 42 mins and 18.6 seconds, to be precisely.
...or Scotty could do it: he's a miracle worker!
@@amusementguy Even better.x
@@9thbloodandfire508 Of course silly me!
It's eye opening that the original series was mocked and shunned in its infancy, but today it's obvious that the series was far, far ahead of it's time.
Many things that we enjoy today were inspired and developed because of Star Trek.
The cell phone/hand held computer, MRI, CAT scan to mention but a few.
Thank God for Gene Rodenbarry and the visionaries who created this wonderful series of stories!
too bad it hasnt inspired our mentality
@@pberPSR what do you expect from the lefties that watch this they don't learn nothing from nobody they know it all just ask them
@@pberPSR It could but it all comes down to self ownership.
@@pberPSR It certainly has inspired everyone that accomplished something worthwhile by taking their inspiration from it. I think it would have been accurate to say, "Too bad it hasn't inspired EVERYONE'S mentality.".
@@burtonryan50 You're right. That's all it will ever come down to.
Yet another example of Kirk NOT accepting the "No Win Scenario".
You noticed! 😃
Later they would say Kirk was on Tarsus IV when Kodos the Executioner executed 4000 so 4000 others could be fed. His life and experiences would shape his career and path to the captaincy. I don't understand how a person in an alternate reality (The Star Trek reboot movies) could be plucked out of a mundane existence and be expected to function as a bridge officer or captain as if he had these experiences and worked towards it for years.
Excellent point
Another example of Spock believing the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one... and Kirk & McCoy responding with, "F* that!"
I always like how the parasite had a slightly Lovecraft description to it - "From a place where our physical laws do not apply" :)
An entire planet with scientists and laboratory equipment couldn't figure this out. I want you two to do it in an hour...
Not really. As Kirk said there are 14 science labs on the ship, the best in the galaxy. The colony was hardly equal to the facilities on a Starship.
@@captcorajus The ship had about 300 (number varies on source/episode) crew members total and only a few were scientists. Not enough.
You can have a hundred random scientist, or just Spock and Bones. Choose.
@@chrissgchriss exactly ;)
Cut taxes get rid of bureaucrats and let people do what they need to do without getting in the way you lame ass leaders
I grew up on the original series...the best of all series
Agreed.
One thing I like about this episode is that we finally have a dilemma that concerns something other than the Prime Directive. According to General Order 24, if the threat of the Denevan parasites cannot be contained, the planet must be destroyed.
General Order one means you may have to ignore suffering. GO24 means you have to inflict suffering, in order to protect the greater good.
Advanced countries "inflict suffering" on the super rich by regulating prescription drug prices for the greater good. In the U.S. our law enforcement agencies protect the terrorists responsible for 70,000 deaths per year caused by severe price gouging. This is why I do not respect any decisions by law enforcement, judges, or prosecutors. I am bound by no laws, especially arbitrary ones.
General Order 24 states that lethal and even genocidal force are authorized in the face of an existential threat to the Federation. Such as a group like the Emenians getting control of a fully armed Constitution class cruiser.
If only we had that kind of leadership and compassion from our leaders today.
Hahahahahahaa
Instead, they lock us down over a bad flu after grossly inflating the number of reported deaths.
@@patmcbride9853 for political gain and profit.. pure evil.
How do we want to communicate with people who we benefit by them dictating/orating- leading
If we're having a global team
Having cooperative communication and disgruntled behaviors listed as we lift each goal to it's achievement with great goodness
Like from my understanding it seems like there's a breakdown in communication with overbearing amounts of currency being used as leverage
I've taken hospitality
And it can be the little things
That make people's day
Like with schools may benefit in general with some parents coming into teach
This is one way I'm recognizing a way to build together in our communities
@@VincentGonzalezVeg Jesus Christ what a bunch of double-talk Babble what the hell do you mean? I would guess you're here illegally and don't speak English as a first language
Love it. I watch it every night before bed. (I even turn the color off and watch it in black and white because we didn't have a color TV back then.)
Been watching since I was 5.
It was getting harder to find. Used to have a VCR collection Lost it along with 99% of everything.
This posting keeps me going. For about an hour I can try to forget reality and pretend that I'm back in the 60s and my life isn't the train wreck it's become.
Every time I watch the final episode I can't believe it is. I keep thinking how they could have canceled this. Especially with the junk on TV today. Well, I guess soon it'll be my final episode.
You’re not alone. I’ve loved Star Trek since I first saw it when I was 7. Black and white tv, 12” screen. This is one of the best episodes, but even the “bad” ones were better then most other stuff on tv. I’ve lost everything a couple of times. Had to start all over. It’s not easy, but I keep on trying. Every day. Till the final episode.
@robertlange1772 Amazing! Same with me. Even now I'll put this modern gadget on B&W to watch it because that's how I saw it as a kid, since we didn't have a color TV. It's hard. It was one thing when I was younger and lost parents and belongings etc. But to be dealing with this stuff again now. Whew!
Yeah, sometimes it doesn’t let up.
@@robertlange1772 No. It doesn't. Really thought it would. Really tried. Truly. Man plans and G-D laughs.
@robertlange1772 At least we've always got Star Trek! "Beam me up now, Scotty!"
"I'm putting you gentlemen in the hot seat. I WANT that third alternative."
Gee Kirk. Even Spock and McCoy could BOTH agree they weren't miracle workers like poor Scotty. Might as well give them red shirts.
I always liked that line about a third alternative. After watching Trek so long it stuck in me to never accept a single option two and two equals 4 not 3 not 3 or 5 or perhaps it does . Never take things on face values.
Kirk as captain sometimes had to light a fire under even his most senior, experienced, and intelligent officers.
I like that the story involved a Federation colony with such a large number of people. Usually the colonies are tiny.
One million is "tiny" when you are talking worlds with tens of millions to billions each, and a number of them.
@@travissmith2848 True but sometimes in Star Trek a colony is 10k people and that makes little sense. But I do appreciate the fact that people who justify the good of the many outweigh the few never try to apply it scenarios with millions involved.
@@canadious6933 They were "frontier" colonies, Just starting. This one had been well established, closer to the homeworlds.
@@kurtsnyder4752 Ah, I suppose that makes sense. I always assumed the colonies had been around for at least a full generation
There were 8000 on Tarsus IV (including Kirk) when Kodos the Executioner eliminated half the population.
Captain Kirk: I want pie and cake for dessert ! McCoy: Dammit Jim, you will get fat !
Dammit Jim I'm a doctor, not a fitness instructor!
The ladies are ignored, good thing they were invited to the meeting.
I just noticed that McCoy also does the eyebrow thing.
@ 1:25 I think Bones & Spock were raising their eyebrows to establish some kinda telepathic link.....the way they were looking at each other just before Bones leaves, it was like they were communicating important information to each other while remaining completely silent.
@@hmartinspliff Bones is worried about Spock. He's infected with this thing and it's pushing him to the edge of his endurance.
@@hmartinspliff uh no. Bones never had telepathy.
Another one of my favorite episodes. Just a real situation that can occur.
Very illogical Mr. Spock. What it resembles most is a big poached egg.
Made out of plastic
I'm hungry.
Toasted Velveeta open-faced sandwich from the commissary.
Thank you for listing the season and episode.
I know how annoying that can be! Everything on this (my) old educational channel is properly sourced and documented. Thank you for your comment.
Your welcome.
I stopped eating ravoli for a year after watching this episode as a kid. No big deal you think but I’m Italian.
lol ,I watched Silence of the Lambs when I was 10-11 and couldn't eat any form of shell pasta for a year of two. It looked like the moth they pulled out of a corpse. I was eating lunch at the time watching it.
Can remember the last time that I had ravioli and really like it. And if you are Italian, then why is it you did not spell ravioli correctly ?
@@masterk6571 ha ha! Your a born lawyer or detective! Good catch
Looks more like fried cheese than ravioli ~
Buon Appetito! 😀
If that third alternative had not been found, Kirk might have become known as "Kirk The Executioner." Kirk, and Kodos.
Indeed! If I may suggest "Kirk, The Annihilator" --- Like in the episode "The Changeling", where the chimeric robot seeking extraterrestrial xenobiological organisms and sterilizes entire planets whose biological units are not perfect. It's prime directive: "MUST STERILIZE!" because that's exactly what Kirk would have to do.
If they had frozen that robot for later use, (like they do on Babylon 5) that would have provides a fourth option --- and a neat ending for the third season, reshuffled from the second season! (knowing they wouldn't be coming back for a fourth season) where Kirk, only interested in saving his career, would logically arrange for the "accidental" reactivation of this powerful device and have it STERILIZE the planet instead of him, if the third option didn't work. (I'm just kidding around! I do love the old Star Trek) :-)
I was always sympathetic for Kodos. he had no idea when the supply ships would arrive. He had no idea they would arrive early, and he did what he had to do to preserve those people that could be saved, only for sheer circumstance to make what he did unnecessary in retrospect.
Sometimes a frontier colony has to make harsh decisions between what can be saved and what can't. And it's really easy to second guess those decisions from the command deck of a Federation cruiser with its own replication system.
@@hagamapama "But, they didn't. And history has made its judgement."
Their problem was that they had only thought of the heat from a sun would get rid of it. I recall how Spock realized what they had missed (@1:05-1:10) and tried the solution himself. There was a side effect to it though.
Yes. His first solution involved full spectrum sunlight, wich should have blinded him even with his eyes closed. Luckily Vulcans have a second, internal eyelid.
And then they figured out they needed only one rather harmless wavelength.
This show if it had a budget reminds me of Alien . Been cool if they were big creatures like in Aliens .
They always gave Bones the big moral outrage arguments without any alternative solutions. In this one I like how they have Bones actually arguing it's better to have billions die that just a million.
Bones comes in and saves the day a few times. But his compassion gets the better of him a lot.
The way Spock was describing the creature .11-.44 seconds sounds like the Borg
Sure does, wonder *if* they got the idea of the Borg from this.
WOW!! This kind of sums up the main plot of Star Gate. Gould. This is so far ahead of its time its amazing!!
This show is so great!
Interesting how art in this case imitates life
The beeping in the background sounds just like the timer alarm on my iPad.
This episode was clearly lifted straight from Heinlein's "The Puppet Masters"😊❤
Good episode
From one of my favorite Star Trek episodes.
Kill 5 to save 10? Sounds like a good time for a Vulcan axiom, “The Needs of the MANY OUTWEIGH the needs of the FEW”.
I' said cook my egg over easy, "that's" over well'! Can't you cook.. Dam-it' Jim, I'm a doctor' not a short order cook'!! You can't kill' an omelette, "without" frying a few' brains.. 🖖😝😁
Don't you just love the look spoke gives McCoy like well let's get on it
800 lb gorilla: Prime Directive. If it's a giant brain, maybe try communicating with it?
Kirk, explaining his actions later: "It wasn't my fault, I demanded a third alternative and even stormed from the room, but they failed to give it to me!"
Help, i forgot 2 eggs in my fridge, now they both look like this thing. Where i can get a good UV-lamp, that will fit inside the fridge?
who woulda figured a fried egg could be so tough?
0:00-1:24 If I didn't know better, I'd think they could have been talking about the Borg.
Wouldn’t surprise me *if* the Borg was based off of these.
Get moving Bones! The Admiral wants a clone of the element who is inside the body - will extract it externally or the clone can be injected in tiny molecules to concentrate on the element to destroy it. Get moving Bones.
Close your eyes and they are almost describing the Borg
*"Hell, call engineering and stellar cartography."*
Don’t think they had stellar cartography back then.
damn, now i have to see the end.........again.
What we need here is “ operation warp speed “
an alternative gives you two choices already, you'd have four with 2 alternatives
Now I have to find the next damn 10 minutes in the show on YT. One of these days I’ll get around to buying both seasons of TOS. Then I’ll stall on TNG for the next 5 years 😂
1:31: McCoy looks jealously on Spock thinking _"I wish I had those pointed ears"._ 1:36: Spock thinks: _"those humans are so illogical, how would that make anything better?"_
Now he gets to be "Kodos".
If only they would have shown that thing an episode of the 70's show 'Supertrain' ... the single cell, and the larger whole, would have disintegrated in mere seconds!
Perhaps even faster if they'd snown it an episode of:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quark_(TV_series)
Also: if the two women picture on either side of Richard Benjamin look familiar, they were Doublemint Twins in the 1970s....
@@xaenon Very likely. The explanation of the crew members, specifically "Ficus Pandorata" nearly got me killed !!!
@@bozedewolf1234 Television definitely did have a flair for the ridiculous back then. Of course, QUARK was just a slapped-together, half-assed effort to ride the resurgence of sci-fi created by STAR WARS.
Interesting 🤔 Science rocks 😃👍
go away reddit
Feed it to the damn gorn. Let him deal with it.
What we have here is a squeaking piece of ham. Where are my eggs?
The first Tyranid?!
If you are the prey,..spoil the milk.
0:23 Spock and Kirk are defining the Borg!
A biological version, but essentially they are. Makes one wonder *if* the Borg were based off of these.
Is that giant ravioli related to the flying spaghetti monster?
At 2:35, why would McCoy say Kirk's nephew is the last of his family, yet in The Search For Spock, Kirk had a son named David?
Rewatch it.
"The fact that your nephew is the last survivor of your *brother's* family"
Boltzmann brain, everybody' is its cell. & all organics.
14 Science labs? cue Commodore Decker.
Biological Borg basically
Makes a person *if* the Borg were designed after these.
Sounds like the Borg but without the nanites
Sure does, just as dangerous *if* not for their weakness.
A... Collective, if you will. 😀
A possible inspiration for the Borg collective.
except in other galaxies physics and chemistry work the same as they do here.
It is a Borg.
A possible inspiration for them.
It looks like a fried egg to me, sunny side up!
Yeah! Like ostrich eggs. :-)
Yum.
"This is your brain. THIS is your brain on brain cells."
The early Borg
Sounds like the Borg.
A biological one, but yes.
Back in the days where there was no limits for the United States.
That's f****** thing looks like microwave chitlins.. YUCK!
Operation: Annihilate! S1 E30.
Pretty sure kirk would need to consult with starfleet before killing a million people.
What kind of a plot device is that? That’s just foolish talk! I told you and told you about making sense, but here you go again.
Who said he wouldn't? Throughout Star Trek's history, captains/commanders have contacted Starfleet for instructions if they got backed into a corner.
@@sixstanger00 u obviously did not watch the video. He says he wants another option than to kill 1M people. That he would be forced to do if he can't cure the people down there because he can't risk losing containment. He didn't say Stsrfleet told him this. He implied it is his responsibility. Quite a plot hole.
@@jhanick I did watch the video. Your argument is based entirely on inference at best. There's no reason to think that if it came down to that option, he wouldn't first apprise Starfleet of the situation.
@@sixstanger00 at around 3:15 he says in his captains log HE is faced with the most difficult decision in HIS life. He tells Spock and McCoy THEY need to come up with another solution. No mention of starfleet. Further Spock apologizes for the situation Kirk is facing. Finally Kirk says he wants another option and that he is putting Spock and McCoy on the hot seat with him. Again no mention of what Starfleet says. It's a plot hole.
We are the Borg resistance is futile
precursor to the Borg
Sure looks that way, though the Borg don’t have a silly weakness.
Didn't Spock mind melt through a Vulnerability Pinch Grabbing and have a long Thought Transfer and explain the Virtues of the Prime Directive and then break into Interpretive Dance as a Dancing With the Organism is learning with the Organism Prime Directive Jumbo Spectacular, and Bones looks very uncomfortable in the cut-aways
Say what?
@@MegaTurkeylips that was Spocks first reaction until the Paycheck was held up as a Logical Understanding Incentive to get Dancing
Origin of the Borg?
A biological one perhaps, but essentially so.
Spock's got Canadian teeth.
Heh McCoy does a better eyebrow than Spock.
To see both of them in competition with James Bond (Roger Moore) would be a hell of a thing.
a brain cell in a coffee maker
Bones: I’m sorry captain, I can’t kill it, it’s too cute. Cutest piece of snot I’ve ever scene.
Jim, suddenly I'm craving lasagna....
A neuron
Let us commemorate this day ...
Bill Shatner IN spaaaaaaace !
The Blue Origins flight has successfully concluded its hop over the Karman Line.
Space Boogers
Kirk is so like my wife.
Hence the third alternative.
hot babe in red uniform, boots !
Even Starfleet grooming standards perpetuated immutable traditions, like female officers all wearing 1960s hair and fashions.
Quote "If we had Spock and McCoy working on Covid they would resolve it in an hour" And in 2020 we still have Harry Mudd for a leader....
Look at it this way: Spock and McCoy exist around the year 2250. That means humanity will survive until then. 😃
We used to have Harry Mudd, but in 2021 we’ve replaced him with Norman, and we have to coordinate with him now.
There are a large number of Alices and Trudies, Maisies, Annabels, and according to my research, a Herman series, an Oscar series, a whole plethora of series in fact. But only one Norman.
@@b.t.walker2295 I would say John Gill
Yeah, and now we have Christopher Pike. Biden will just sit somewhere out of sight, blinking once for No and twice for Yes.
The cure for Covid_19?? 🤷🏻♂️
Yes! ( according to Trump. :-( )
That's why I was looking for a clip like this! Specifically, I want a clip of Spock being blinded in the chamber but can't find one.
@@dannycampbell9328 Watch the trailer: th-cam.com/video/5wVmg6_4Sro/w-d-xo.html
You can see the entire Se1Ep29 'Operation Annihilate!' on DailyMotion: www.dailymotion.com/video/x7p71wg
@@PRHILL9696 The operative word for your post is "simple".
@@annoyed707 Another word for my post is that it is "True"
The fart creatures . As a kid growing up to this day I never take things at face value and look for alternatives since you cant give up hope.
3:11 is she preggers?
Now that's some good old overacting right there.
03:14. This is one of my favorite episodes but I never noticed how Kirk says "Gentlemen" and McCoy and Spock are sitting at a table with 3 women who's jobs are, I don't know what, but evidently not all that important as they never say a word and are not even acknowledged.
Apparently, gender won't be such a delicate topic in the future. Especially in situations where there is a command structure.
this communal monster was so inhumanly disgusting - and put Kirk in a hideous dilemma. Not to mention the intense suffering of Spock and others. A creepy disturbing episode, if you can overlook the old fashioned special effects (it's not hard) and the needless subplot of Spock losing his sight.
Easy to overlook the special effects. This is pure drama. Twilight Zone and Outer Limits had very low budgets too. The writing, the acting, the music. Who needs CGI?
@@MegaTurkeylips oh don't worry, I'm old, I myself have no trouble overlooking the old fashioned SFX because they were current SFX when I was a kid. I was addressing the younger folks ;-)
Our scientists did something almost equivalent to this with covid_19. They did in a few months what normally took years. Due to new technology and concentrated work of the government and several companies millions of lives were saved. 😊
The only reason vaccines normally take years to develop and deploy is because of FDA bureaucracy. That was the first thing to go when the SARS-CoV2 vaccine was stood up.
No such thing as a "third alternative". An alternative is a choice between two things. What he wants is a third choice.
Take it up with the dictionary.
al·ter·na·tive (ôl-tûr′nə-tĭv, ăl-)
n.
1. a. One of a number of possible choices or courses of action: "There are plenty of alternatives to conventional advertising."
So in your world, there is only black and white. No shades of gray. Okay!
😆🤣😂😹
If this episode were done today, It would be completely different. The invading creatures would have left-wing advocates, like AOC, demanding they had rights. " They are living things, and God's creatures too we can't kill them" A way to negotiate with them and offer them X amounts of human sacrifices so as to not offend their taste for human blood. As a matter of fact, the crystalline entity on the Next-generation was exactly that. It had destroyed and killed millions of people, and planets. and yet Picard wanted to negotiate with it and they were all so upset when that woman scientist rightfully killed it. Let's face it if a shark is coming to eat you don't call on a leftist for help. hahaha
@@williamw422 Thanks for the compliment. I don't think that self preservation is an extreme view point, It is common sense. So as I was cleaning off the dust from my car from the World Trade Center massacre I listened to leftist apologists saying "Oh what a Tragedy" "These are peacefull loving people". Demonstating a total lack of self preservation instincts like lemmings marching off a cliff. They were totally indifferent to the thousands of victims. But yet say something that's politically incorrect and all hell breaks loose. I remember when the actor Peter Fonda called for, in his tweet, that the presidents 12 year old son be locked up in a cage with a group of child molesters and rapists. That's leftist compassion and love of children for you. (I wonder if he would have any ill feelings for Mohammed Atta). Any, individual entity , animal that poses a violent immediate threat to my society is a valid concern of mine but not for a bunch of lemmings or sheeple, they, like the ostrich pretend it's not there. Ignorence is bliss I guess.
I've always said the only good Democrat is a dead one that died before they could ever vote. But wait-- they vote before they're old enough and they keep voting after they died; so scratch that just get rid of Democrats entirely. Time to to machine gun them down in the streets if you want to have a country where you're free.
@@hankkingsley2976 We definately are not racist or bigoted. So I fully support AOCs plans to set up polling stations next to cemeteries, Dead people shouldn't be denied their Stalin given rights, to vote, just because they suffer from non mobility.syndrome. That is just not who we are. The Dead need to come out of the closet and vote openly for this to be real Democracy. Discrimination needs to end.