Why you SHOULD NOT buy an Orange County Chopper
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ธ.ค. 2022
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Do you remember the show Orange County Chopper? Well, the bikes they made aren’t as good as they were made to be on the show and leave a lot to be desired.
Creating bespoke motorcycles that can compete with or perhaps surpass the quality of a stock Harley-Davidson was the focus of American Chopper, a series on the Discovery Channel that starred in Orange County Choppers. The conflict between Paul Sr. and Paul Jr. was a mainstay of most episodes. As a result of these disagreements, office property and equipment have been damaged, and the participants have used profanity. If this were real life, Hollywood A-listers would be fired. Despite some petty fighting, the final goods for the customer are a compromise between the team's divergent views on design.
Following the show's cancellation, the company saw meteoric expansion, attracting fans in droves. They are now marketing themselves as more than just a motorcycle company. The mustached Paul Sr. is still the public face of Orange County Choppers even in its shiny new digs. His son and co-stars, meanwhile, have started their own bespoke bike businesses.
In 1999, the Orange County Choppers team launched its first official shop. The store gained widespread exposure in 2002 when the Discovery Channel began airing American Chopper and maintained its prominence throughout the decade until 2010. Over the course of six episodes, the team demonstrated how the New York-based firm could meet any client's needs by constructing motorcycles from scratch. This is fundamental to their operation, although the group has since moved. After retiring in 2020, Paul Sr. headed south from New York to sunny Florida.
Since relocating to the Sunshine State, the family business has had an extended riding season. With the growth of their business into a "country club" for motorcyclists, they've relocated to St. Petersburg on the western coast of the state. A Harley-Davidson dealership and the Roadhouse museum are located just next to their building. It launched in July 2021 with a bar and restaurant area that featured live music. This brand-new spot in St. Petersburg is like the Holy Land for bikers.
More than ten years have passed since the reality program ended, but the business continues to thrive. They have recently become well-known for selling a variety of products, the most notable of which are clothing and "cool stuff." This includes the sale of all sorts of items, from foldable dog bowls to poker chips. Furthering their service expansion, Orange County Choppers now provides endorsements, wherein Paul Sr. will appear in advertisements for a charge, as well as marketing strategies. Hard Rock Cafe, CAT, and even Bic are among their impressive list of former customers.
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No… we could just go watch the Bikes and Beards episode and not waste our time. Why does everyone piggy back off of others hard work????
I don't understand the point of this video. I shouldn't buy a Orange County Chopper because somebody bought a used one and didn't like it? Wtf👎
Jesse James was right when he called them "cake decorators"
During the time of OCC,I was building better bikes in my 8x10 backyard shed with hand tools and a cheap welder. Don’t remember how many xs650 Yamaha I hardtailed before they were cool, but 20 years later they are still on the road.
Yes, he was.
@@Jack-wi5qr pictures???
actually they are motorbikes, not cakes.
I don't even they achieved cake decorating status Jessie was being kind
Anyone that knows anything about motorcycles knows Orange county choppers built junk.
My home built chopper was uncomfortable because it was hardtail, and unreliable because I love shovelheads 🤣
All the occ bikes were trailer queens, not something you could ride daily
I'll take my 2016 Honda Fury any given day than any Orange chopper. It's reliable, comfortable, and a great looking bike.
No surprise!!
Its a Honda.
Best engineering in the business
The last people you expected to build a factory chopper made the absolute best chopper
I worked for an HD dealer for 6 years and I've seen them come and go, OCC bike that came in one time,had 800 miles on it, clean bike,guy had paid 85K for it, got traded in for $8000 and got sent off to auction,Desperado didn't even want to sell it on the floor as a used bike,same thing happened with a Jesse James bike that kept dying, even with a new battery.
Jesse James's described them as cake decoratiors but is it fair to says Jesse James's we're just as bad?
When you build 1-5 bikles a year like James once did, having one that has some issues is boiund to happen
@@gingernutpreacher he actually made all the parts his bikes were made from ;occ just builds out of a catalog
That’s why I bought a dyna
@@spaghettislim7283 Jr used to make a gas tank cover and other stupid "theme" parts that made the bike look goofy
You could tell by looking at these choppers that they weren't made for long rides and comfort.
Some motorcycles are a work of art, Works of art are never functional motorcycles.
Never saw them build a bike I'd ever want to own. And I ran into Paul Teutel at the Philly airport one time. Wouldn't even stop to shake hands, and didn't even give me a smile.
😂
Most of OCC bikes are built for looks. Companies commission a bike, run it on the show then put it on display in their corporate offices. Buying one of these is like a big fancy commercial but it's a TV show.
Good description, I think it was a fad for many people! Most people can't survive in normal conditions even when they have 4 wheels and keep looking at their cell phones. You need both hands and a head on a swivel to be safe on a motorcycle!
Over the years I've had a few of occ's bikes on my lift...pure junk. Cracked welds galore.
Lmao
I mean, what do you expect with a rigid suspension?
So you basically just repeated dudes video and posted it…🙄
The building that appears to be identified as 'their building' at 02:05 in St. Petersburg, Fl. is actually the old OCC Headquarters in Newburgh, NY which they abandoned a while ago. Otherwise, great material! 👍
Thanks. I was going to ask about that.
I've been to Bert's Barracuda Harley-Davidson, where the new museum/restaurant is, and there's no such building as that shown in this video. 😄
@@positivelynegative9149 Foreclosed upon during chapter 13.
I remember watching that show with my dad and we both were puzzled to how anybody would want to ride something so obviously uncomfortable. In fact I'm still puzzled why people watch those "reality" shows or ever could.
The bikes are 99% show. The fact that you can actually drive them is pretty much an afterthought.
The thing is that many buyers thought that they bought a collector's item, something that would increase in value. But as the chopper scene is relatively small, that was never going to happen.
Well, you and your dad watched. Lol
You just said you watched it with your dad.😂
Hell yes..that's what they call them pro cake artists!!! Indian larry ..jesse..an billy lane..these dudes can build a motor..or build a gearbox!! Vinnie was occs best guy they had 💪🇺🇲
It became a soap opera of a tv show.
OCC takes the idea of a motorcycle and makes it absolutely unridable.
The blue stock Harley-Davidson from the beginning of the video is a Honda Shadow 😂
Great bike.
@fast lane Tv
those guys always made crap. ask anyone that ever turned a wrench for a living.
It was a fun show for non bikers.
I wouldn't let any of those clowns WASH my bikes!
Yep all those idiots have done is run to da bank laughing at the idiots who thrown their cash out da window. Go Brandon!!😎🇨🇱
They made them as flashy as possible for attention and money comfort and reality was never on there mind.
Yep 😁👍
This is so awesome. Finally somebody told the truth. These guys never could build bikes. They were nothing but gimmick builders that can weld your no Jesse James hahah love it
Finally???.People talking about this for more than a decade
Who said they could weld? I’ve seen two, the only welds that looked good were the welds on the frame that the original frame builder made. OCC ordered their frames prebuilt then added attachment points for everything they added to the bare frame.
Jesse James builds sh!t bikes too. Theme bikes are for promotion, what part of the that do you not understand. Also they built bikes there's actuall evidence of it.
They couldnt even weld that good...correction their welding were shite
I'll take my old 07 Electra Glide (2015-103", cammed, chipped, and dyno'd at 110hp) any day, even with 165,000 km on it.
So it’s big, ugly and underpowered.
At 6:06 "what is its size in comparison to a basketball court. To find out he put it on a dyno." Huh?
Me and my mates call them clown blkes😅
I watched the sjow and couldnt believe how shoddy some of the work was. I mean no suspension , no real engine, no speedometers, no comfort. Just a machine to look at mostly.
OCC bikes: 1) The ride comfort of a skateboard 2) Reliability of a Rolux and 3) Power output of a moped. All for the bargain basement price of half a dozen Harleys.
OCC bikes are what I imagine an 8 year old would think is cool. A motorcycle that looks like a fire truck or a rocket ship.
Who wouldn't want to ride a motorcycle that looks like a fire truck or a rocket ship? Sounds like a blast!
In the '70's. I had a Honda Chopper with the 750 engine in an Amen Frame. The rear was a laced up 16" Harley Wheel with a Pirelli Radial. The cushioning of the Pirelli Radial was perfect for riding.
You meant a Bike Built by Unibit drill bit?
"the quality of Harley Davidson". Wha, wha, WHAT?!
Now, yes, the show reads like a fake reality TV show ad to sell shit. BUt in it's time, admit it, we ALL LOVED THAT SHIT
Very uncomfortable to ride more than an hour at a time. Basically useless.
Why mentioning stock Harleys over a picture of a Suzuki Intruder "chopper"?
That was a Honda shadow.
i would never buy anything from Paul JR. he has not had a fresh idea nor ever understood power to weight ratio. Look daddy!! i welded spider webs onto my gas tank!!
When i was too ignorant about motorcycles as a kid i thought their bikes were cool, now that I have a good knowledge about the topic..., Man those bikes are awful AF, not only the appearance, their operation and ergonomics are impractical, really a bike for showing
Had a friend who bought an OCC for $ 75,000.00 . He rode it for 2 years then put it up for sale for $ 17,000.00 ! It damned near broke his back .
“Surpasses the quality of a Harley Davidson”
Proceeds to show a Suzuki s40
I think it was the late great Indian Larry that said they make christmas tree ornaments!!!
Bikes like this are not for riding their show bikes. Plain and simple.
Hey spikes do look cool and I never think, what if I wreck on this?? Sounds like a new seat and front brakes would get rid of most complaints...
You get in an serious accident and you’re getting hurt no matter what. They don’t help but you don’t have the safety features of a car.
No shit, Sherlock. They were assembled by dysfunctional blokes with hammers.
That one garbage can in Sr's office really took a beating!
It was more reliable than the bikes they built…. 😀
The food in the Orange County Chopper restaurant is as tasteless and overpriced as the motorcycles in the Harley shop next to it. If you like paying $60,000 for a motorcycle then you don't mind paying $20 for cheeseburger with no cheese and $2 for a tiny cup of ice. No way Jose not for me. Orange County Chopper became boring anyway he was always the same thing yelling and screaming.
I remember jesse james making fun of a bike junior built and said it only holds a half a gallon of gas, junior fires back, it holds a whole gallon!😂 ok, where you gonna eide this $80k bike to, the gas station?😂
Cuz the resale is pennys on the 1000 dollars
BIKES ALL LOOKED THE SAME...😂
It's like they say, "If you've seen one bike, you've seen them all...until you take a closer look!"
Holy land for bikers ROFL!!!
No not hardly. Their bikenights are mediocre , the food is meh. The wait is way to long for it. Its the same shit every week for it.
Endorsements? "I'm Paul Sr. Welcome to Costco. I love you".
Hmmm... So, looking into what bikes to not get and for OCC I keep finding videos saying not to buy OCC but only discuss this one bike. Didd it turn out to be this was they only bike they ever made, everything else was made by someone else and OCC just took the credit?
Companies spend $10 million to $100 million or more to develop a model of motorcycle. Regulatory Compliance is a huge hurtle. I wonder if these could even be registered and insured in California. One off makers skip this. OCC makes a bike for less than $100,000 including engineering. Of course, it's garbage. They are pretty, though.
Any body that ever come close to even slinging a leg over a H.D. knows better than to buy one of those pieces of 💩. You 'll get more fun setting fire to ur cash!!
F.J.B. 😎🇨🇱
Thy dude said they launched their first app in 1999 and over the course of 6 episodes
Those OCC bikes were 2 - Wheeled Abortions.
Those bikes look so uncomfortable to ride.
As mutch as i liked the show theyr bikes were always just marketing bilboards for the companys anyway that bought them, personally a simple honda shadow is a rolls royce to these altough nice for a poster but still theyr just unreliable, uncomfortable clankers.
OCC made marking pieces not real motorcycles. Their customer bikes were junk. Guarantee 90% of their money came from selling merch.
Do they always / only make two of each identical theme bike? One for them and one for the Sucker that commissioned it?
Once they made 3 identical bikes of the Lincoln theme bike.
There’s spikes, spikes, there’s spikes everywhere. And while they’re saying there’s spikes everywhere, it pans to a laid down dirtbike with NO spikes.
Just straight line garage queens
One word "USELESS"
Yeah that isn’t a stock Harley
It's a hardtail bike on a super low profile tire. It's gonna ride rough. Don't buy a rigid frame bike if your a sissy.
Does it feel the same as riding on a bicycle that has no suspension?
@@HighAway worse than that because you have a taller sidewall on a bicycle tire to absorb the impact of the bump. The old school rigid choppers weren't as bad as the new school choppers because they had more tire sidewall. I've rode both and the new school rigid choppers with the super low profile tires ride the worst. But if your wanting a rigid chopper they all ride rough. So really depends on what style you like best. 🤘
@@badbrothersgarage9887 Im nearly 50 years old and I wonder how will I able to endure it on long trip. I wanted something that's my style and long distance riding with comfort that doesnt have to be too comfortable. not a pizza thin like seats I ve seen around on those bikes like bobber and old school chopper
@@HighAway if you get a decent seat or a good cushion to sit on for long road trips you should do just fine.
@@badbrothersgarage9887 that's a sound of a good encouragement.
This was just about why you should not buy this particular used motorcycle that someone designed specifically for themselves. It didn't give any real or specific reason to actually not buy an OCC bike. Click bait again?
My uncle had one, he bought it about 4 years ago for next to nothing, and besides it looking kinda cool the wireing bunred up.
It was a Suzuki in the beginning not a Harley :/
This wasn’t a show about a top tier bike builder. It really was a show about drama. Their bikes look nice but are unrideable and not practical. All the attention they got was for the show and their dynamic. They had to know deep down their bikes sucked.
We here in Germany always were wondering, where they were hiding the rear suspension! After the second season we thought the seat would have a superb suspension (Spring?)! From the third season start, we were assuming, 65 Miles per hour are not so fast, and if you are well trained like the Teutuls, you can hold yourself to the bike as well 😎😂👍‼️
You can always add springs to the seat. These bikes are meant to look cool, and that's about it. It rides, handles, and stops like a chopper because that's what it is. The person who made this video has no clue what their talking about.
A lot of bike builders buil hard tail choppers.. not just OCC
Should take some of those choppers to the Isle of Man race🤣🤣🤣
Show bikes, that’s all they were building. If you had a man cave garage it would be cool to have 1 in it, make a bar out of it maybe.
Bikes were terrible an the show was worse than that.
This video should be 4 seconds long. Why you shouldn't but an Orange County chopper - Because they like ridiculous and unrideable
The bikes cool and OCC great show ❤ i miss The show american chopper , Brigh back american chopper ❤
Every episode was " Where's Paula? He should have been here!" Paula comes walking in late Jr and Sr get on to a fight over it!
You obviously did'nt watch the show.
@@fmbbeachbum8163 I've been building and riding HD's for over 50 years, watched that show a couple times and never watched it again.
Jay Leno just said his OCC bike was the biggest POS he ever owned. LOL.
1:28 ???? Russel Mitchell Never worked for OCC ... He has taste ..
i remember going to a car fair and there were some choppers like these there. I never undertood this bycicle-seats-like they put on these bikes and how the seat was too low and too and weirdly positioned. Now, years later i see everyone who rides these bikes saying they're crap.
"Stock harley davidson" *shows honda shadow
Umm, at about 16 or 17 seconds, that is not a Hardley. It's a Honda Shadow 600. Oops.
I don't uderstanddwhy there running this bike down, they built the Ike exactly the way Jeff clec wanted it
I'm not the biggest fan of OCC , but , the guy in this video doesn't know dick about motorcycles , lol ...
The brakes , seat , and
'charging system' are all easy things to be dealt with .... Not rocket science , or so oot of line that a person would need to straight up slander the company ... Just my two cents ....
$80,000. That bike wasn't worth $5,00 when it was first built. Its got a stock Harley Evolution engine, but none of the Harley comfort. The show was fun to watch, but their bikes were impractical, uncomfortable and weren't reliable.
Jay Leno said the one he bought was garbage. Bad design bad and build quality.
I’m surprised, they were on tv for quite awhile making those death traps. I’ve seen people online by some of their biggest builds for practically nothing.
The blue "Stock Harley Davidson" in your video is not a Harley.
"Stock Harley Davidson" and shows a picture of a customized Honda😂
Did you actually say the bar and restaurant with Music was located next door to the main building of OCC? The main building was in New York the new restaurant is in Florida.
That is Shadow, not a Harley
The “ Tuba” bike. Fabricated entirely of musical instruments.
Exhaust routed through a pair of brass tuba bells.
Loud pipes save lives.
Where’s Paul?
We’re gonna have to wing this one with out him.
OCC BIKES ARE ONE OF A KIND THEME BIKES. LONG ON LOOKS SHORT ON RIDE CAPABILITY. IT WOULD BE LIKE RIDING A BRICK, WITH WIDE TIRES AND A LOG FOR A SUSPENSION.
YOU WOULD BE BETTER OFF BUYING A HERITAGE SOFTAIL CLASSIC, WITH 114 engine saddle bags and windshield. And save that extra $40,000. You can use it on clothing or a rainsuit, goggles, or a heated riding gear set. All you need is s good pair of insulated boots, a good pair of rider jeans, armored in the seat and knees, a good, warm jacket and a good pair of leather riding gauntlet glovesand a good pair of sun glasses, polarized green or bronze. One last thing is a good pair of chaps, for cold weather riding.
I live in Missouri, I have been to Sturgis 3 times. 1) 103 degrees
2) 32 degrees
3) 115 degrees
There is nothing worse than riding a motorcycle in the rain. Then the next worse is riding in a snow storm. Then riding on an asphalt road when the temp hits 115 degrees. It thinned my engine oil so much, my top speed was about 48 mph. That was miserable.
The trip was great, a little adversity is better than working anyday!!!
TV is all DRAMA. I don't watch TV.
I find it hilarious that the audience (anyone NOT in occ) keeps talking smack about occ for doing occ. Its like hating on pizza hut, domino's, little ceasars, and cici's for making pizza. And before anyone comments anything along the lines of "if it was made of plastic". i can see where everyone gets the idea from. But occ always told ppl the truth and told them what the deal was. The bikes arent meant for long trips or just rides around town. They are show bikes meant to impress. The only time they should be ridden is on and off the trailer at shows. Or yeah maybe around the block but thats it. They are one of a kind custom showpiece bikes meant to be displayed. Otherwise they would be built waaaay different and actually practicle.
I PREFER A HARLEY OR INDIAN , FACTORY BUILT AND DESIGNED TO RUN CONSISTENTLY, TO MANY DANGERS OUT THERE ON THE ROADS FOR MAYBE’S !!!! NO SPEEDO’S , NO REAR SPRING SHOCKS , NO BRAKES = THE MORGUE !!!!
I have a ridged Bigdog it's comfortable for me. I have no complaints. On a motorcycle you do not try to hit holes no matter what you ride.
Corporal Punishment means body punishment, they are levels above you.
I wouldn't buy anything American made,I stick to the pure quality of HONDA.
J.Clark, yep and jap crap are great as boat anchor too. God made H.Ds to keep idiots off Harley's. F.J.B.😎🇨🇱
@@gabbyhayes4561 I have owned Harleys since 1990. Bought A Custom LowRider at 21yrs old. My Honda ST1300 is the most reliable bike I have ever owned. Have had 6 or 7 Harleys in my life. Some have been better than others but all have had issues. A couple of them major issues, like total rebuilds before 40,000 miles. I would argue the GoldWing is as made in America as Harley’s. Oh and their are plenty of idiots on Harleys, if you don’t believe me just take a trip to what they call a dealership these days. They have turned into entertainment venues. Live the lifestyle minus the life 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Usually the better it looks the worse bike it is 😂