The formula to CONSISTENTLY GAIN LP AND CLIMB

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  • @DadBodShang
    @DadBodShang 2 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    This is an incredible video on systematic macro. It definitely opened my eyes on how to operate during the mid to late game. Thanks once again, Neace!

  • @viperdragon35lol6
    @viperdragon35lol6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    "Dont go tower, drag...F*ck It End!!" - Neace 😂 words to live by

    • @rayso3089
      @rayso3089 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Viperdragon35 xDDDD

    • @vikingconquest77
      @vikingconquest77 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣🤣 I was rolling, lmao

    • @cupidok2768
      @cupidok2768 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I cant get my role..keeps giving me jg. Dodge make me wait 30mins and still gives me jg

    • @Mygolly915
      @Mygolly915 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cupidok2768 play jg then Xd

    • @cupidok2768
      @cupidok2768 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mygolly915 jg is boring

  • @vittoriobindi7099
    @vittoriobindi7099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Ok, mind officially blown. I knew about the problems with early inhibitors but I never realised how bad having too much space is. It all makes so much sense now, thanks Neace.

    • @markovchainz8314
      @markovchainz8314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Theoretically it's not bad, it's just bad in solo queue because your team isn't organized, and therefore they're going to split up and get picked off in random spots on the map. Yeah, this video is actually one of the best for how to climb in low elo.

  • @Vuk11Media
    @Vuk11Media 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    That intro quote is amazing. If you don't limit test low elo, and practice those all in lvl 2's what are you going to do when you get to Plat and people who have done that clean you up.

    • @fcksham7127
      @fcksham7127 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Literally I play alistar support and when I all in and ignite and my ad doesn’t then that means I’ve just lost lane and we probably lose the game

    • @markovchainz8314
      @markovchainz8314 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Rain In July Correct, but you're not going to climb any higher.

    • @shadowrelmpiccolo
      @shadowrelmpiccolo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fcksham7127 At that point just get mobi's and leave lane.

  • @DoubleX300
    @DoubleX300 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Thanks neace for this coaching. As the JInx player im already on a 7 game win streak and climbing.... I truly needed this

    • @xtinct6584
      @xtinct6584 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good shit bro. Now when he says tower/drag/tower/rift/tower/drag… does he mean you personally as the ADC should be rotating to this positions and help take control of them? When landing phase I done I just find myself chillin mid waiting for team fights

  • @primalsmash5801
    @primalsmash5801 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Now this was a video fucking video. This dude got the God level coaching.

  • @EP092
    @EP092 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Can you do something similar to this video for top and mid? This was a really good concept that I think would be useful to know for other lanes and even jungle.

  • @ridwanrahman3523
    @ridwanrahman3523 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This video was an amazing video I learned so much, having it articulated this systematically is very helpful. Would be great to see more vod reviews if you do them!

  • @chriscalvert5864
    @chriscalvert5864 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Really cool video on macro...as a returning casual player I haven't really grasped the bounty system until this video. Thanks for the helpful content @NEACE!

  • @melancholybobbyjoe
    @melancholybobbyjoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So, I have been having issues this season. I got tired of my typical champs, they don't feel as enjoyable anymore and my favorite one is in a role I hate. I decided it was time to try something new, so I picked up Kai'sa two days ago and have already gotten two penta kills. I have been watching these videos and realized I was too scared to fight, I didn't know my limits or my openings but on Kai'sa I said screw it and just went hyper aggro since I had nothing to lose. She is a blast to play and it's been going great. I feel like I finally found that champion I can go all out on! I am winning drastically more games too.

    • @kaylin1006
      @kaylin1006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      im a Kai'sa main and she is one of the most fun champs ive played lol, shes awesome. good for you!

  • @scorpion131999
    @scorpion131999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I would kill for a neace commentated example of the "script" he explained going right.
    And then how to follow that script as a jungler

  • @akky2745
    @akky2745 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am P4 player mid laner otp kayle and i didn t know this thinks thanks Neace! for this information!

  • @xertul2865
    @xertul2865 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Champ: Elise
    Role: Mid
    Runes: electrocute, sudden impact, eyeball collection, relentless hunter,
    Nimbus cloak, Absolute focus
    Build(in order): Magic Pen Boots > Night Harvester > shadowflame > zhonya/rabadon > rabadon/lich bane > rabadon if u havent bought already. Have fun!!!

  • @ryukjoga
    @ryukjoga 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is actually really interesting, i'm a diamond player and haven't put much thought into this. Of course, i'm not an amazing player, i'm good mechanically with my champ pool and all but i always come to vids like this to get the bigger picture that i'm not seeing sometimes. After all this studying, i hope to finally climb from low diamond this season.

  • @marmadisjr4729
    @marmadisjr4729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Last game on adc i had to solo 3 drakes, just because players want to fight and only fight with their lead. My teamates only realized there is a free drake on the map when we were to get soul.

    • @DamianSzajnowski
      @DamianSzajnowski 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's the one that matters xD

    • @fengliu975
      @fengliu975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      had a game where we were ahead then hec started yoloing fights and not take soul. eventually got soul but then they keep yoloing and dies to a raka zhonyas silence out play instead of taking inhib and base. now enemy has baron elder and up 2man... hard being the only adult on the team... previous game jun and enemy top said fk it to drag and started mortal kombating in the pit while i last hit drag from 69hp...

    • @theBetterManda
      @theBetterManda 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DamianSzajnowski yes the soul is the only one that matters, not the drags leading up to that; building for the soul, nor the 3rd drag, which will probably have a bounty to give your team a gold boost. The soul is the only one that matters, yup...

    • @DamianSzajnowski
      @DamianSzajnowski 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theBetterManda agreed, before herald better, which you can solo/duo faster and/or counter jungle top side if enemy is rushing stakes stupidly (most of the time in my low mmr)

  • @fredricksonthe96th
    @fredricksonthe96th 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You know what the funniest thing about these coaching sessions is?
    Every coach makes it seem as though the enemy has a duo-digit IQ, when this is rarely true for me. I'm stuck in silver where, according to most coaches, people aren't supposed know jack shit about the game. And yet they know to shove before I get back to lane to get a good recall to keep up with item spikes and know how to freeze a wave when ahead, forcing me to take a bad recall. They know about prio, how to macro and prep for objectives. How to splitpush for pressure and rotate to gain numbers advantage. I mean... I myself am silver and know all this stuff. So why the hell shouldn't they? 9 out of 10 ranked games I'm queuing up for feel like I'm getting smurfed on, because they seem to know what I know but execute it better. It's just so... frustrating...

    • @remmaps123321
      @remmaps123321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Because rank is relative to everyone else. You can improve, but other people are improving along with you. Things like shoving/freezing that were once considered advanced techniques are now basic fundamentals that everyone is now trying to apply and a lot of it has to do with the massive amount of help videos lately.

    • @SoldJesus4Crack
      @SoldJesus4Crack 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      literally no one in silver knows when to shove or how to properly freeze.
      have never and will never see that COMMONLY used.
      some few know of it, but most dont know anything macro related.
      this all is just sucking excuses out of your ass.
      i havent played league in over 2 years, hopped onto my brothers account and quickly got him gold in

    • @fredricksonthe96th
      @fredricksonthe96th 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@remmaps123321 yeah, I can see that... it's where I got my knowledge about the game. Only makes sense for those playing in my elo to have done the same.

    • @gabriel.adeife
      @gabriel.adeife 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yea, I notice the same things but rarely do they actually execute them properly or for the right reasons. Its clear that they know of these things, but everytime I see it they do it at the wrong times. So many times Ive seen people try to freeze a full cannon wave and just lose half their health bar.

  • @jayyrod1
    @jayyrod1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome this is the lesson I needed today. I been trying to figure out why we falter when I get snowballing, it's like once we have a lead we're determined to throw it away!! Lol I've done it a couple times but I been catching on to the problem, this helped me understand it immediately, thanks Neace! You the best! God bless you brother!

  • @onixtheone
    @onixtheone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Imaginé if this lecture was in the front page of league client as a tutorial for how to play.. imagine!

  • @chrisern98ify
    @chrisern98ify 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a cool concept!
    And I do ofc have a suggestion.
    -The champ is samira
    -The runes are Conquerer,
    Triumph, Bloodline, Cut down
    Second tree Domination:
    Sudden impact, Ravenous hunter
    -The lane is Top
    -The build is Goredrinker, Steraks, Collector
    Really fun!
    Good luck :D

  • @bode8817
    @bode8817 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    These concepts where the best I've seen, ever. Clear and simple
    Edit: Q: If I'm getting stomped in lane; does these rules still apply?

  • @kjelesnianski5214
    @kjelesnianski5214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This highlights very important concepts very well! Lvl 2 all in, not hitting early enemy inhibs, systematic map movement.

  • @m1n1fan
    @m1n1fan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    gj Neace on explaing a solid system to follow

  • @ayohollaatyaboy
    @ayohollaatyaboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad you took your time with this vid. Def cemented that script in my mind now. Got value out of this.

  • @FiberCraftsbyMal
    @FiberCraftsbyMal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I've had lots of games where this happened! It's amazing to see it all laid out like this and it makes so much sense. My biggest question is an adc in low elo what do you do when you try to rotate top/mid and they rage and get all salty about it and wont rotate?

    • @Tempoefn
      @Tempoefn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      /mute all and do the correct play

    • @fengliu975
      @fengliu975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      just rotate to take down tower and then peace out asap. anymore time in that lane is a waste. then i usually look to take the jun if am obligated to sty close to obj or go back to bot otherwise. unless you got a couple of items in your slots then i would just stay mid and take jun.

  • @viperdragon35lol6
    @viperdragon35lol6 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not gonna lie so much info dropped here ive been trying to understand wave states for a minute this helped me understand the reasoning that goes into deciding whether to slow push or hard shove waves...Love your content Neace

  • @memedaddy3095
    @memedaddy3095 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This blew my fking mind.

  • @oreoex9392
    @oreoex9392 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Neace ...........Thank you - thank you for this lesson. That's the only words that i can muster to say after watching this video cause its just Dawning. Truly neace, Thank you

  • @MrRoflmaw
    @MrRoflmaw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    amazing video NEACE, could you make a similar video on how the script goes for Top lane? i usually beat the enemy top laner but i am lost on what to do next and how to extend my lead to my team

    • @Patrizio25
      @Patrizio25 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bet its the same for every lane like top - herald - mid - drake - bot - mid - herald - top - bot - drake - mid inhib - baron - top inhib - drake - bot inhib - end

  • @PiecesMissing
    @PiecesMissing 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super interesting concepts this vid. Seen a lot of Neace, but the throw reasoning and analysis was rly interesting to see play out.

  • @baab8480
    @baab8480 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been missing you N3ac3y.
    Looking forward to some Sun Tzu quotes.
    Big up for this vid.
    Incredible Content!

  • @Ultimahaxorpanda2131
    @Ultimahaxorpanda2131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Neace: You ever notice how you have to play through the mechanics of Dark Souls bosses?
    Me, who watched ymfah and others alike: *bass boost*

  • @rayso3089
    @rayso3089 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good stuff @NEACE! I learned a lot throughout this video.

  • @MicmanInTexas
    @MicmanInTexas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Saving this to read before future sessions, thank you Neace:
    So you guys took an inhib at 16 minutes, which is gonna bite you in the ass.
    What you did was you quickly tried to accelerate the game to end it, which is - I'm just gonna be direct - it's a bad bet.
    So this is why you strip down layers.
    This is why normally what I try to do is I go
    Tower
    Dragon
    Tower
    Rift
    Tower
    Dragon
    Tower (probably middle tier 2)
    Rift =>
    Use the rift wherever we want, to get Baron
    The thing is, you're not gonna win games at 15-20 minutes very often, doesn't matter what the "timer"[enemy has scaling champs] is.
    [$$ From passive gold & cs-ing only] What I'm trying to do here is showcase that players don't actually get items THAT fast. So like you're saying "we want to end the game before they scale,"..They're not gonna scale anytime soon. Unless they're farming like God they're not gonna be getting items. But you know what gives them items really fast? Giving them items really fast comes from giving away bounties and shutdowns and inhib farming and all this stuff, THAT gives them items fast. Riot has turned this game into Mario Party my friend. And by that I mean once you get ahead there's these stupid bounties that pop up, right, these bounties give more gold than anybody should have -- that's why I say it's like mario party. So I just go piece by piece:
    Tower
    Dragon
    Tower
    Rift
    Tower
    Dragon
    Tower
    Rift => Tower/Baron
    So on
    The game only has a certain rhythm. Right now you're still being creative, and unfortunately this is like learning how a magic trick works.. there's not a lot of magic to it.
    Don't try to brute-force end the game, is the lesson here. The game is not designed that way, okay, that's why I framed it up with the tower=>dragon=>tower=>rift bullshit that I just told you. Because it doesn't matter how hard you ram your head into the enemy base, youre going to have to play the game out for 20-22 minutes. Do you understand? Expect the game to go beyond 20 minutes. Do not expect the game to end at 15-20 minutes, it will not end. It will drag more than it ends. You will never rush the game. They could surrender, or catastrophically lose, but it won't be because of anything you did. Doesn't matter how good you are.
    Any time I have finished a game really early, is because I follow my own rules very tightly, so I just snowball REALLY fast. I'm ending the game through correct map movement. I'm not trying to "end" [rush] the game, it's just falling into my lap. Do you understand? I didn't just abandon my lane and run down mid and hope that I somehow magically ended.
    I did the exact thing I'm telling you, which is I snowballed, I took it, I took the drag, I went up here with my snowball lead and I took the rift, and I went to mid, and then I snowballed through mid, and then I took maybe a tier 2 and then I took another dragon, and then I took another tier 2, and then they just surrender by then. It's not like I'm knocking the fucking inhib down at like 15-17 minutes. You'll never see me do that. It'll always be systematic.
    Don't try to leapfrog over this shit; don't go Tower Drag FUCK IT END
    Calmly take each piece, before you go for the victory.
    Youre gonna be on the journey whether you like it or not. You can't skip certain components. Expect you're gonna be there for 20-25 minutes. Expect that. That's what's going to happen so do not play like you're going to skip that or you're going to fuck it up and make the game harder.

  • @aitorrodriguez6888
    @aitorrodriguez6888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    22 minutes in and I have to say that this is one of your best coaching videos EVER

  • @kyle19421
    @kyle19421 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Tower, drag, FUCK IT end" hahahhaha

  • @taurium76
    @taurium76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OMG this video! Learned so much I feel like I just hit diamond for watching it.

  • @sgtpatton
    @sgtpatton 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    such good advice about limit testing in the first 3 min

  • @soysaucebananna
    @soysaucebananna 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just started playing elden ring. What a good analogy. There will be some games where hack and slash work but don’t plan for that or make it a game plan.

  • @ToddChristensen27
    @ToddChristensen27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "So yes, theoretically, winning the game is good"

  • @tentva2
    @tentva2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    NEACE the real mvp

  • @SkittleBombs
    @SkittleBombs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think an exercise you should try is getting a iron to silver player to go into practice tool to do Cs practice, but give them to task to end the game by 15 minutes. There are no bots to get fed off of. Not many champs can solo do this. I remeber practicing with old morde and his dragon to end games in practice tool within 15 minutes.

  • @remougaim3468
    @remougaim3468 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was very informative. Ty Neace for uploading this coaching session.

  • @trubbleism
    @trubbleism 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    19.18-19.21 Not tower, Fk it, Dragon, end! Hysterical moment in macro simplicity.

  • @MarcosMartinez-io3ec
    @MarcosMartinez-io3ec 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is literally the secret formula, and this not only applies to bot lane, but every lane too, man is crazy, never thought of it, league is mario party for real, thanks neace! 🙏

  • @iamthejustin7420
    @iamthejustin7420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The inhib push was fine, however if you do it that way you have to Baron. Or if there is no Baron up you have to Rift. You push the lane for Prio right? What you do with that prio is what determines the game. If you just keep shoving the wave or pushing it into them they are just getting farm. If you push inhib you are giving them more xp and gold. But they also need people to hold it. Meaning that this would be the ideal time to get objectives. If you aren't doing that then its a throw. So you broke mid inhib now mid wave is going to keep crashing into them. Top should be splitting top, the mid laner can group with the others to take jungle objectives and bot turret. You don't need anyone mid at the meantime. They can't clear supers fast enough at the moment because its early. Now you have opened up the rest of the map, you got a top laner pushing top you got the rest doing rift, baron, drake, whatever and after that you guys are opening top and bot up. That's one way to do it. The other way is to split top and jungle objectives then just end if you are that confident. You are right that you don't want them to scale. But thats just a simple statement. Do you actually know when they scale? Do you know what item they get and what level they meet that they beat you. Now that's some knowledge you need. Low elo randoms a lot of the times look at the team comp, oh we lose late game. Well yes obviously we do as you can see the team comp has a vayne/twitch in it. When is the time we lose, you need a deadline. A plan should be developed in the draft phase as people get picked, you don't just sit there doing nothing using a shitty rune page loader from those external softwares. The match starts as soon as you click accept. The match doesn't start when the timer starts. Meaning if you pick Yuumi and you are top, you've already fucked up. The match has started already. Your pick counts. If you are going to play 200000000 champions, you have already fucked up. Remember you aren't a pro player. You don't need to learn counter picks, and how team synergy works at the moment. If we are talking about this fundamental shit, you don't need to know team synergy. Why though? Isn't League a team game? Yes it is, thats if you have a team. When you are in Bronze, let me ask you, do you have a team? You play adc top failed mid failed, the teemo is literally inting it down bro. You call that team synergy? You don't need that. If you go adc in bronze, the fastest absolutely fastest way you can go from bronze to silver is to main Twitch. You have to win your lane, once you've taken down bot tower and won your lane, you go for their weakest player, look for exploits and look for your win con. Now you need to be your win condition. If you want to rank up, then you are the win condition. If you aren't the win condition, you don't deserve the win. If you are going to play top, pick Tryndamere, remember you are the winning condition. You are the one that'll end the game. You aren't going to half ass gamble your way to silver. YOu are the fucking win con. You don't need a team as tryndamere. You'll 1v4 top and your team will still lose a 4v1. That's how bad they are. When you are in low elo, you mute all. You don't need fucking pings. Everyone just question mark pings your ass. You have your brain, your game sense. Look over the replay, when you are done if you lose or win both. What could you have done better. Winning a game doesn't mean you did your best. It means you are better than the cunts on the other team. It means you are shit but they are dog shit. So if you want to rank up fast, you have to understand what you did wrong. How can you fix that? If you aren't carrying hard enough, are you being too passive? Have you not exploited correctly? Are you too friendly? Tryndamere works into every top laner in low elo, in higher elo not really all matchups. But in low elo it works on everyone, know why? Because everyone does not know how to play the fucking game properly. So you should be getting a lead in your lane. Now the question is, how do you extend your lead and exploit using your lead? Getting the lead isn't hard. The easiest part about ranking up is getting ahead. You should always be ahead. But how do you close out the game. That's the real question. How do you end it. You already have all your items but you aren't close to ending. How do you end it? Wrap it up and gain the lp. If you are going to play ADC. Don't play Jinx. You need a team for Jinx. In low elo, Twitch and Vayne are your best bet.

  • @PatrickSlamp
    @PatrickSlamp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn this explains a lot of stuff.

  • @ClipsCentralNY
    @ClipsCentralNY 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Champion - Nidalee
    Role - Middle Lane
    Rune's - Dark Harvest - Sudden Impact - Eyeball Collection - Ravenous Hunter - Sorcery - ManaFlow Band - Gathering Storm - Ability Haste or Adaptive Damage - Adaptive Damage - Health
    Item Build Start- Doran's Ring or Dark Seal
    Item Build Mythic - Night Harvester
    Item Build Legendary 1st - Horizon Focus
    Item Build Legendary 2nd - Rabadons Death Cap
    Item Build Legendary 3rd - Demonic Embrace
    Item Build Legendary 4th - Cosmic Drive Or Morellonomicon Or Lich Bane Or Void Staff
    Item Build Boots - Sorc Shoe's or Ludacity boots
    Bassically Nidalee mid is something that not a lot of people play and personally I've enjoyed playing this mid as its such a powerful damage dealing champion. Key things are hitting q for manaflow band buildup, playing safe against characters that are able to dash, Kat, Zed, and fizz. Slow champs that are bigger and predictable are your friend in this situation as you can bully them into tower then roam with jungle or gank bot or top. Making sure you hit q and getting that max damage from hitting it is key too. Hope you pick this build for nidalee and I'm excited if you choose to play it!

  • @LukeChudoba
    @LukeChudoba 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I would love to get coached but I just can't afford it. I feel like I need so much improvement when I watch these videos.

    • @Amihumanlol
      @Amihumanlol 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      These videos are coaching. Listen to what he says

    • @DimiUHD
      @DimiUHD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      just listen to what he says and try your best to follow it. as long as you do that its just a matter of games my friend!

    • @LukeChudoba
      @LukeChudoba 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Amihumanlol I listen to what he says, and I've been climbing. But tis different when he actually tells you exactly where to improve.

    • @LukeChudoba
      @LukeChudoba 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DimiUHD I do, but you gotta admit it would be pretty nice to afford coaching from Neace.

  • @xtinct6584
    @xtinct6584 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey boys, can someone help me get this straight? When he says bot tower, drag, top or mid tower (depending), rift, tower, drag… does he mean that as an ADC, I should rotate to top or mid tower after I/we get bot tower and drag? And then I personally rotate to rift etc. etc.? Like should me and support switch with top lane for that tower or should I as ADC go and help top lamer push in that tower? I get the rotations, just don’t know what I personally as the ADC should be doing during them. Thanks!

  • @Suckitupthrift
    @Suckitupthrift 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Neace used to be my coach in college

  • @juanchonkiboi8225
    @juanchonkiboi8225 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Insanely good coaching session, learned a lot! thanks Neace!

  • @edwinhoekstra8988
    @edwinhoekstra8988 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Neace! Some more Macro concepts in a full video! love it

  • @user-zk8zf4pz7w
    @user-zk8zf4pz7w 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Need this for jg

  • @jaredr1201
    @jaredr1201 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is also when I notice a jungler will force a dragon. When mid and bot aren't pushing. Like follow the script gank bot. Get a kill or force them back then go drag.

  • @Dw3nG6K
    @Dw3nG6K 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Valuable content here !

  • @liammckenna1479
    @liammckenna1479 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Mario Party comparison really resonated with me. All your early advantages are heavily outweighed by whatever happens in the latter half of the game.

  • @iamthejustin7420
    @iamthejustin7420 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is why I always recommend Trynda fucking mere. Its all on you mate. If you lose as Tryndamere, no one else to blame but yourself. Tryndamere the true carry. The one and only champion that decides games.

  • @DimiUHD
    @DimiUHD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    literally eye opening session, awesome vid neace.

  • @tylwyth
    @tylwyth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible, gives such context to the behavior I've been staring at for months...

  • @iamthejustin7420
    @iamthejustin7420 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The inhib was worth it, only if you leverage it. The inhib gives you prio in mid, all you have to do is use it. Rush Baron straight after you get inhib, then recall, rush drake. Then go bot. Top laner should be top the whole time. That is literally the only reason you take mid inhib. If you aren't doing this, or you aren't going straight baron then recall and straight all mid end, you are throwing it. You've got Baron, Kayle is completely useless, Renekton can 1v2 or 3. You go in and you put it away, in fact you don't even need to fight if you don't want to, you just hover behind minions mid, the baron minions will end it.

  • @Nikey782
    @Nikey782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Neace, love your videos. Can you explain on a future video how to play a game where you, say in top lane, generally (and should expect to) lose the lane based on a particular matchup. I main Kayle top, and understand how to play safe, be patient and wait for my scaling, but it's hard to watch videos like these where you talk about not waiting around and basically just getting a grip of the game and forcing odds in your favour to make your team win based on your decision making. I don't really know how to do that in a matchup that I know if both laners play at equal skill, Kayle loses until a certain point, which you may or may not get to either based on your own decision making or that of the two junglers and others roaming. Thanks!

    • @simhanssens7331
      @simhanssens7331 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey! I main kayle aswell, both mid and top. I play a lot of scalers and viktor is my blind pick.
      Neace probably does NOT like scalers, because you don't have agency over the game untill you're in late game ( if you went even, if you're ahead then already in midgame )
      This video is really about "If you play a champ that has agency and can roam, help jung, kill lane opponent -> then you can get this agency over the game by getting a lead and following this sort of script"
      If you blindpick champions like kayle vlad or kass you practically coinflip that the enemy won't absolutely demolish your team whilst you're farming for gold and exp untill you hit your powerspike.
      YES you do put your enemy on a sort of timer ( and even that depends if they have a better comp or not if you can 1v9 )
      Imo it's not worth maining these champs, but hey here I am maining them myself because i just love that freacking playstyle xD
      But you just make the game harder for yourself.
      The best playstyle imo is playing a snowballing champ with mobility ( e.g. Akali, sylas, camille, qiyana ) get a lead in lane, roam. And apply this video. Accelerate the game by taking all objectives and just force a 3 dragon lead with 10k gold advantage. Scaling champions are definently still viable ( I did hit D4 with them so yeah ) and they do teach you things like getting perfect cs and jungle timings

    • @Nikey782
      @Nikey782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@simhanssens7331 Thanks, pretty detailed answer :D yeah I guess Neace, as a coach for people trying to climb, would probably recommend champions that have agency in the game. For now I just try to learn what I can from his videos and accept the coinflip you mentioned! Definitely learnt a lot about wave management from him etc, it's just that the bit where I get stuck is when I know for sure that a bad situation is happening but I just don't know what to do about it, like getting freezed on or zoned away etc.

    • @aurah8245
      @aurah8245 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      kayle beats 90% of champs post 6 and wins a number of melee matchups pre6 learn the champ and don’t play as safe she’s also identity wise a tank buster so you can play more aggressive into those matchups as even early game she has % hp on e

  • @redrabbit2401
    @redrabbit2401 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these concepts, very good cover on them. It was also nice to remind myself about them, I will be even more aware now.
    P.S by any chance could someone tell me the song name from the intro? (Or is it custom made only for Neace's intro, in which case, :( )

  • @GuyInTheSkyTV
    @GuyInTheSkyTV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GREAT session! This contained so much value and I'll surely be trying to implement this as a support main. Thanks neace!

  • @clovermite
    @clovermite 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    7:03 what do you press to view the gold during replays? I've been wondering how to view the gold at any given point.

  • @dustinkeier9176
    @dustinkeier9176 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's like weaving in autos as a riven player. Weaving in towers between the drags and rift/barons...

  • @wadahole7379
    @wadahole7379 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "its not the elo for that" dat truth bomb

  • @joppeheijligers5629
    @joppeheijligers5629 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for this video cleard up alot for me thank you neace

  • @zayanali7788
    @zayanali7788 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey neace, was wondering why when I go to watch a video of yours on facebook, I'm not able to skip ahead, I can only pause and play

  • @vano.player9030
    @vano.player9030 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this vid helped me so much, i wish i had recoueces to by ur couching

  • @wisdomandy9361
    @wisdomandy9361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude I don't care what anyone says, MMR is broken. I went from S4 to G4 over 100 games with a 54% winrate and my MMR WENT DOWN. Yes I'm serious. Every season I give MMR a chance to prove me wrong but every time it proves me just how broken it is.

  • @FoolClanz
    @FoolClanz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Woke up savage today neace.. finally a good one

    • @FoolClanz
      @FoolClanz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He should be maxing his w man not his q first

  • @basenjiplays
    @basenjiplays 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.

  • @Filthyy1
    @Filthyy1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A solid video for once from neace.

  • @dinogav803
    @dinogav803 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im tryin to climb as jungler i spam ping to get suport but they dont help or respond any advice thanks

  • @brennanstory
    @brennanstory 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    neacey boy needs to eat! love your videos! just concerned for your health!

  • @KelTheMoment69
    @KelTheMoment69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the best video you have ever made my man!

  • @cureforblight752
    @cureforblight752 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i know im late but when he bringed up souls games i started liking this video 100x times better big fan of souls games

  • @sherif3300
    @sherif3300 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    so as a midlaner should i be looking to gank bottom more early game if i want to follow this macro script?

  • @clovermite
    @clovermite 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    26:51 what's the convention for pinging to rotate? I have no idea how to ask people to rotate via pings.

  • @KiMLoKO1
    @KiMLoKO1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    neace hope you doing well dude, you looking skinnier by the day

  • @kaylin1006
    @kaylin1006 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    your videos are so insanely helpful thank you

    • @2muchz
      @2muchz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Frr

  • @feralwispasmr7145
    @feralwispasmr7145 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was so informative I watched it again

  • @meropticon_1651
    @meropticon_1651 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do I do when people refuse to listen to pings? Genuine question.

  • @wadahole7379
    @wadahole7379 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Biggest issue with early inhib is it takes your farmable lanes down to 2 while they get the safe supers free farm

    • @aurah8245
      @aurah8245 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      they lose map prio and they’re unable to clear waves without needing to base after like every 2-3 of them it turns the game to a 4v5 or lose nexus turrets it’s extremely good to take them since you’re already in such a big lead their enemy jg opens up more

  • @77cody08live
    @77cody08live 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    disagree at 10:45 - it was clear based on mid skirmish and tranist from river on viegar kill that a low level kayle and low hp viego would not be able to defend t2 as 2v3 with fed af renekton, plates are down (so not losing anything bot), I think it was good macro level play to open the map by trading t2mid for t1 bot IMO.

  • @irelia_master4487
    @irelia_master4487 ปีที่แล้ว

    Neace where i can find that Cs and Gold Spread sheet 8.7 ?

  • @faisalalbeedh6544
    @faisalalbeedh6544 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    22:34 god of war franchise ?

  • @Chs3__1234
    @Chs3__1234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    New intro is fire 🥵🔥

  • @HuntingIsFine
    @HuntingIsFine 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Off-meta build, go lethality Caitlyn mid. It works because you can shove with a and always look for free kills with ultra in the sideline.
    You build path should be starting with tear and 2 pots, then first item either Attack Speed boots or dusk blade, then you build manamune, into axiom. After that you can get BOTK for kiting and agaisnt a tanky comp, or bloodthirster against a squishy comp. Final item GA or Collecter or Yuumus.
    The idea is you will win pretty much any lane because of our high poker. Besides mages like veigar, Neeko, malzahar so consider banning them. Or katarina since she ignores your traps completely.

  • @purpleporo1014
    @purpleporo1014 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I finally don't feel lost bot thx u.

  • @RedAstrals
    @RedAstrals 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    what an intro

  • @zxmpsychiatry7602
    @zxmpsychiatry7602 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great information; how do you get the other 4 to buy-in???

  • @Morvyx
    @Morvyx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this script just for the ADC? Do other roles have a kind of script too?

  • @Emante
    @Emante 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The gold and Cs spreadsheet is something i never knew I needed. Can we buy access to it?

    • @aurah8245
      @aurah8245 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      very niche as you will never hit those past the 5th wave and plates and towers etc are more viable and consistent hitting godly cs numbers means you are giving up a lot for afk farming

    • @Emante
      @Emante 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aurah8245 cool, i still want it

  • @mikielgrato5705
    @mikielgrato5705 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    intro is fire

  • @oldformatguru
    @oldformatguru 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bad ass man. Can you also explain how to get to the position where ur taking tower and dragon when u have 2 enemies in front of you. Or you might as well do this for every role it would be bad ass

    • @TheSquirrelbeast
      @TheSquirrelbeast 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Here's my perspective, even though I'm a scrub, to get first tower you need to win lane. To do that, well it depends on the matchup, but generally what works for me is freezing and slow pushing, with the wave near my side, the jungler can gank easily and I can then snowball from there. If he ganks and we get the kills, we go for drag, and keep on slowly but steadily pushing our advantage.

  • @iamthejustin7420
    @iamthejustin7420 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You see the kayle on the enemy team. Do you actually press tab? Look at the level and the items. How many minutes left before you all get shit on? Count it. Don't know, then play more. The call was right. They are stronger later on. The question is how much time do you have? When is "later on"? Get me the time, alright, we must end by this time, they are getting out of control. Have a plan. You know when you got to wrap up the game. You know exactly when you have to ping the shit out of Baron and wrap up the game because if you don't, its over. Now if you want to take inhib thats perfectly fine, but you have to leverage it well, you take one inhib, the other two lanes should be constantly pushed in, they have to go defend mid anyways, if its not pushed in and jungle objectives aren't down. Thats a literal throw. Mid inhib gone, first step, walk to baron, baron done, walk to drake. Know why you walk to drake second? Its because in low elo, the enemy jungler automatically assumes that if the whole team is missing and the drake is up. He runs straight for Drake even if he is going to run. As Neace said not a lot of low elo teams do Baron early. So you either ping the shit out of it and start it and if you get executed and they don't actually help. It is what it is bro. What you want me to do? Now here the technique is to ping it assist on the way multiple times, then call /ff and then your team wakes up, and they'll come. The /ff vote does it. If you don't call it they won't come. Obviously you are able to get inhib at mid this early, go baron, then go recall and run mid and end.

  • @Deadman4818
    @Deadman4818 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    how would you use the formula top lane would you go rift instead or roam to bot for drag

    • @aurah8245
      @aurah8245 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      just stomp lane herald isn’t needed to win game if it’s pre plate fall it has value if later not rlly you lose a lot of tempo grabbing it

  • @koko9900
    @koko9900 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Argggg.... The reason adc wants to rotate to a lane with an outer tower after you take bot is not because there is some magical system, it's because adcs want to extend laning phase as much as possible in order to get more gold/xp before the mid game happens.

  • @BreezyOG
    @BreezyOG 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Neace hasn't seen Distortions Elden Ring Speedrun yet