This is probably one of your best coachings I've seen. You and the client have great back and forth. I really like that you explained why you wanted him to do things.
@@ZaddySeeBot you don't see it much explained in videos cause he tells low elo players to just listen to him and explains it post game to them(wich u don't see in the videos) cause low elo players can't follow instructions that fast and it's easier to make them just listen than guve them a reasoning than and there
@@ZaddySeeBot He talks with them after the game about his reasoning in his coachings. You can also infer a lot of reasons as to why the things he says are correct by seeing them have a net-positive effect in the game. Here, for example, he told the ezreal to step into the xerath poke instead of running away while dodging because then you can threaten autos and q's. The ezreal player started doing this and the lane when drastically better for him because instead of dodging away and letting the xayah get control over the wave he stepped into the poke while trying to dodge it and auto the wave at the same time. You can tell what Neace was teaching is correct because you would rather fight the poke lane and and fight for control while it's in the middle than let them just bully you and poke you while you try to farm under tower. Everyone learns differently of course but it helps to be fairly inquisitive about things and using logical reasoning to think why something might be good to do.
One of the better NEACE coachings in recent history. A lot of explanation into why we are doing what we're doing in the lane and in the matchup. Good feedback.
I always thought ezreal should be played as a poke ADC, try to keep enemy bot away from the minions and slow push\freeze. Interesting take with the hard shove every wave. Great lesson!!
Poke champs tend to want to shove because it makes the enemy wave smaller and makes it harder for the enemy to dodge the poke. If you freeze on a poke champ the enemy has a big wave to hide in and get the cs without being punished. Engage lanes want to freeze if possible because they can run you down the lane and kill you if you try to break the freeze.
that was me, thanks for the great coaching neace. played this game a long time and i was still learning a lot the whole session, definitely lit the fire in me to climb seriously and not autopilot. hope you the best i'll be back.
Divine sunderer is only bought like 1% of games on ezreal in KR while in NA its bought nearly 10% of games with a much lower WR. That might actually be the diifference, KR players can do math for their builds
I have no clue why people build that trash item on him anymore. It's just an objectively worse item. Sunderer has +5 more AD (40 vs 35 of Triforce) but you lose 30% attack speed on Triforce. Both give 300 hp and 20 haste.
No, Koreans suck at builds generally. Koreans were always building Triforce over Sunderer on many champions. Right now, this is optimal, as Sunderer is only a good dueling item now.
I've also read somewhere that in bot-lane, if you are against a poke support like the Xerath, you shove them into their tower because the poke support with their adc will have to deal with the wave first or risk stepping over large waves to do the poking. Alternatively, if you have a poke support like the Velkoz it's just as great because now that they have no wave to deal with, he is free to poke them. If you have melee supports, you want the opposite, to be pushed in but keep your HP high, to then have the room (full lane) and resources to engage. Is that part of the reason why Neace was instructing the Ezreal to full shove nearly all the time? How do you know when not to shove and when to slow push?
Yeah you pretty much covered it. It does depend on the team comp. At the same time if you don't know where the enemy jungler is, you do have to be more careful and assume he could be nearby. It just sucks having a xerath shove into you because his range can make it hard to farm under tower. You would only allow this to happen if ur jungler is coming to gank.
is the minion wave on your side, slow push7stack a wave and hard push next one so a big wave is under their tower. If it is in the center you can decide to slow push or shove depending where they are and who they are. If the minion wave is on their side just shove so you stop them from stacking waves.
This is the general concept yes, its important to focus on the note that he has a velkoz himself, so the support matchup is poke vs poke. Both sides are wanting the exact same thing, so ideally being the wave controller as an adc, you want to enable your support's win condition as much as possible. It's also "generally" a good idea to always be pushed up in bot lane. It allows roams for dragon control and random jungle fights that may occur on your jungler and places pressure onto the enemy to make a move. Also allows warding timers to watch for incoming ganks. Having prio is an important thing in the bot lane, even if it's just a small amount of prio that isn't quite crashed into a tower. Overall I try to keep the enemy near their freezing point, which you think would be not what you want. There are exceptions of course for some games... Exceptions to this might be having a leona support that actually punishes well at a freezing point near your tower. You don't want her to int dive enemy tower ever. But if you have a leona that afk does nothing, then forget she even exists and try to be safely pushed up, fighting for vision control as much as possible and winning off your jungler's dragon calls. Champs like blitzcrank are the opposite. He doesn't pull himself in, but instead pulls them to you. Having less enemy minions in front of him actually gives him more options for his pull to land. It's very champ specific. Pretty much, you're unable to do much yourself, so you play off whoever is giving you results for that game while kind of testing your support early on and seeing what they'll do. It's complicated. Slow pushes are also a thing and better when you are REALLY good at timing with your junglers clear time and pinging dragon timer. If you can build a slow push and have it crash the moment dragon spawns AND your jungler is ready, you've done something great. That's probably one of my favorite things to do whenever possible. Another reason for a slow push might be a diving opportunity or fishing for a roam timer for your support. If your support roams to a soon to spawn herald topside, a large crash gives you time to buy, return back, and farm safely for awhile on the bounce back. It's all in the timing for slow pushes I feel. They don't last forever, but give you a moment to breathe or punish IF your team has abilities/items/summoner spells/advantages of any kind over your enemy AND uses the timer properly. If either of those things aren't true in your game, then slow pushing is practically useless. Freezing when ahead can be an option as well if you can permanently hold enemy botside off their minions and can draw enemy jungle pressure down to also punish them. Otherwise it may be better to just take everything on the map with your lead, including the enemy jungler camps as you go from taking tower to tower on the map. But many things have to have gone well first for that scenario to appear. LOTS of scenarios.
But what if you have a poke support, so you push to give him the opportunity to poke, but the ennemy team has a melee support whom wants to be under his turret ? You are kind of making him a favour by pushing. Imo it would be better to let them shove you in, so your support can still poke, but it's harder for them to get anything done. What do you think ?
@Sasha I suppose this sounds like more of the slow pushing scenario to me where I still want to be pushed up as much as possible but with a wave of some kind so I don't get grabbed. Gotta make that tank support dive a fat wave that helps you fight back, or make plays with your jungler to counter their engage by having him sit in a bush just behind you with your prio. Really if you are using a poke comp correctly though, then the enemy tank should never be able to reach you. People make kiting mistakes all the time though and get punished, or they don't flash the flash because they don't see it coming and get too comfortable thinking they've already checkmated the enemy at their tower, blasting their Q's on repeat instead of hovering the D or F key to react to them. I can't say that hasn't ever happened to me either. Everyone messes up. So I'd likely opt into slow pushing, building a wave, and hard crashing into a poke harass as often as I'm allowed to with this one. Early laning phase is safer for the poke comp because damages are still lower for all ins and towers lose resistances after 5 minutes, so opt into hard leads early with your poke and only harass them under their towers instead of using that time to get plates. You hope you get fed enough early on that they never get to play the game or control the wave. When resources get low, you use the large crash as a back timer instead. This is somewhat of a special case scenario and a harder to play to it's fullest potential one. Lots of places for mistakes to happen. Improper kiting, jungler/mid roaming interactions, dives, etc. Things can mess this lane up for the poker pretty quick as well as the tank if the tank does not have the patience to stay back long enough to keep their HP up or something. What you want to avoid with the poke support is getting dove under your tower. Freezing before your tower is good and fine for a bit while you transition into a slow push back, but if it ever crashes into your tower, you're in danger. It's certainly a skill matchup and not as simple of a lane as poke-vs-poke. Gotta take turns with that wave control if you can't just brute force take control of it.
I haven't finished this video yet. Literally have just watched the beginning hearing these Ezreal stats and my first thoughts are, yeah, that's because ezreal is actually an awesome early game duelist with a stronger passive than people believe it is in laning phase, and he scales amazingly through mid game on top of that. Late game that passive hardly means anything outside of pushing lanes. Korean server is known for these early to mid game constant fights so Ezreal would thrive there more than other adc's who either have to have long CD abilities come back up or need attack speed items to be decent. You can kind of see proof of this again too being that the First strike ezreal is being played here with longer game times more often and stronger mid game spikes happening than in korea where they prefer the PTA early game fighting build for early game skirmishing. Part of it I think is meta, and part of it is using Ezreal to his full potential. Ping can probably also be a small factor, but minimal in my opinion.
I love watching your coaching videos. League is so complicated and difficult for newer players but it's one of the best games ever made and I love seeing people just getting into it and getting the help and encouragement they need to become a rounded player. Low elo players don't have good game sense. Like they might try to clear a wave before recalling or rotating and by that time it's too late. It takes being around better players to really start comprehending the finer points of the game and the importance of quick and decisive action. There's so much shit to think about and keep track of in this game that cool guys don't look at explosions is great advice, because when you play this game every second is important. You can get to Gold easily just bullying pings when YOU know what to do. If you can get your team to make the right plays at the right time even if they are garbage players it's easy to get out of bronze and silver because most of the time even if the enemy has an advantage they don't press it so if you can pressure your team to make the right calls when you have the advantage you will win most of your games. Ping is your best friend in low elo. If you know your team is doing something stupid spam them to back. If you know you can get baron after a double kill spam it. If you know where the jungler is point it out. Getting bad players to make the right plays is most of the battle. They will fight for no reason, chase for no reason, rotate for no reason and completely waste their time and not rotate when they should.
I was literally typing the ping thing when the student said it. Ezreal is much harder to play in NA and even EUW because if you don't live right on top of the server you're going to have some degree of latency to deal with. No matter where you live in Korea, though, your ping's going to be very low, because of both distance and infrastructure. However it's obviously not the whole story, I think the skill level in Korea is also obviously higher.
wing tower to maintain your 5 stack passive on towers as waves come in is also very big. your q will bring your w up costantly so you can land the next one on them with them shoved under tower.
Neace, love your videos, very nice to teach people new stuff to improve themselfs, and for free, you're a great guy, and can't wait to see you on the new Thor love and thunder, as Gorr. :)
I play Ezreal and when I moved from Florida to NY my ping went from 55 to 28 and my Ezreal winrate went up like 2.5% lmao. It's the only champ I play where the ping made a notable difference
The biggest tip I learned was watching faker play on stream... The biggest thing that stuck out to me was when he said "I'm not doing enough right now". That's the mindset: what's the next move? Why am I not being productive?
Still a question, how do you get value out of your support being an enchanter with Ez, when you have an agressive engager in the enemy team ? I suggest them to roam, but its gold elo soloQ man, they dont feel confident enough to do so.
I feel so targeted by this video intro. I am that exact Diamond 1 player from years ago that is stuck in Plat for hundreds of games now :D Gonna try to work on that macro. Ty for the video Neace
The Ezreal stats in Korea were due to the patch not being out long. Now Ezreal is a D tier pick in Korea also on u.gg. The winrates are still higher than NA or EUW, but he's under 50%
A 51% win rate doesn't necessarily mean those 49% of games where ezreal is on the losing team that the Ezreal was playing poorly, OR that the 51% were playing well. But Korea has always loved EZ haven't they?
im just gonna play ezreal the way i always play ezreal, the way i have been playing ezreal for 12 years since season 1. sombo learn nothing new. ok. we don't change. even if our elo might be a little bit lower now than it used to be. we still don't learn nothing. we refuse. that's why we did not finish school
Aw hell yeah. This was a lovely surprise today. I main ezreal so this was a really great session to watch and reaffirm things I knew were correct in my play while learning things that I need to do more of and the logical reasoning behing doing them. As you said most ezreals tend to play like pussies when against a lane like this with xerath and I'll admit sometimes (not always) I do play passive and just dodge away instead of stepping forward and trying to dodge while autoing. It mainly depends on how confident I feel that day in my ability to finesse the lane so-to-speak.
It's actually the opposite. How he's playing is the easiest way to play the lane. They long you stay in the wave the more opportunity you have to be poked, so by autoing the minions and Qing on CD your giving them less time to harass you.
@@totemgod4386 The opposite of what? I wasn't talking about the client's play in this video. I'm talking about the things Neace teaches in the video about ezreal as a champion and the logic behind why they are correct.
@@YuYuYuna_ I'm just saying that playing the way he does is essentially 'playing like a pussy' because the goal is to get you out of the lane taking minimal damage. Like, for example, it's actually hard mode to just let them shove you in
On the topic of ping.. I'm in Montana, and never was above 50.. if I hit 60 I was having a bad game lol.. now I'm lucky and excited if I get less than 100.. and if I do it becomes quite the majestic match of.. if I Q now.. it'll hit in 2 seconds...
i started the game 3 years ago in a year and a half a peaked d4 0lp as adc.. i perma banned my acc .. then i perma banned 20 more accs while being under 100 150 soloq games on each acc.. everytime at max plat 4.. sometumes silver sometumes gold sometimes plat 4 and i perma ban it.. honnestly im starting to think that league of legends as an adc player is straight up UNPLAYABLE.. and i just cant get back to diamond honnestly i even think i am 1 billion times better than when i peaked d4 i just cant play the game without perma banning every single acc i play in
I fail to see how your level of play is the reason you are getting perma banned on 1 account let alone 20 of them. Sounds like you have serious anger and addiction issues if you've been banned that many times and still keep playing the game. You either need to drop your ego and attitude to improve or just quit.
@@YuYuYuna_ honnestly my ego about how good i am is long gone... from playing so many games in smurf que... obv i know i can get to diamond if i dont perma an acc under 100 150 games... but thing is yeah it was addiction and deep unconcsious anger issues... 2 months ago when i perma banned my last acc i was gold 1 promos for plat in 80 games.. i came to realisation of my addiction and anger and actually ego around trying to prove myself .. sonce then i havent played alot.. im still level 29 and im still honnor level 2 wich is an achievment for me but honnestly idc that much about the game anymore... its fun SOMETIMES but others it isnt and so i just dont play..and if i play if i get annoyed i aknowledge it but i dont let it take over.. its strange.. but like something flipped inside of me and i try my best .. i have more fun.. at the same time idc what happens at the end.. its like i finnally realised its just a game hahahaha
@@YuYuYuna_ and when i say the game is unplayable i mean that alot of time is lost in bad quality games that is undeniable.. im not proud of the fact that i have around 25 perma banned accs but ive accepted it not like apatheticly but just it is what it is.. of anything all this pain made me realise that its just a game.. its meant to be addictive but the choise is urs what u want to make of the game... something like spiritual awakening 😅
Yeah that's what I do as well. Just f key then ult or don't. The f key is max one second. I personally just f key and look at health bars. Then it's a yes or no. It's a second max.
i was diamond 1 adc in season 3 - 6 now im plat, i was stuck in gold for long time. i switched to mid because i just dont have succes as adc. and i have been getting permabanned on my accounts because i just get so mad at these whiny supports crying and trolling every other game.
how is it possible that i get 13 lp and lose 17 for like 50 games now, like is it always gonna be like that, how does it make sense, how do i fix that and how do i climb when i need over 60% wr
@@dusanpavlovic2201 Genuine advice if your MMR is that fucked: buy a new hand leveled level 30 account for $12~ and start over. I'm not a fan of starting new accounts because a lot of people complain when they're getting +15 -15 but if you are getting +13 -17 I would just buy a new account.
I'm still going to go for level 2 and push even with Jarvan. The thing is if they don't punish you for it you can do it. You can escape from Jarvan ganks with your E.
You're missing the point. Why even risk it. Also in that hypothetical there is a blitzcrank as well, so you E the J4 E-Q and then blitz goes for flash Q and blows your flash. Now you are fairly vulnerable during future trades if the blitz forces you to use your E because he sees J4 coming botside and then you now have no E or flash to dodge the J4 E-Q. Very specific set of events but these aren't at all uncommon situations when you have a strong early ganking JG paired with a blitzcrank/engage support.
With item advantage and minion advantage it's hard to lose a fight unless you make a misplay. Aka wasted E then died. Because they shouldn't kill you with E.
Dude I swear ping makes no sense, like this guy gets 70 in Nevada like how I’m in Houston and I get 50(40 if no one else is on the internet) now correct me if I’m wrong but houston seems farther than Nevada to Chicago
The point isn't if it is possible or not. The point is that the higher ping you have while playing a skill shot reliant champion the worse experience you will have and the harder climb will be.
They are way more aggressive yes and try to win the early, macros don't matter :)... that's maybe the problem, I always see this passive ezreals, just sit back and poke, probably a waste of potential
@@sugestar The champion in a way encourages you to think you should play the lane passive. He scales with items and more haste/CDR and is a long range ability-based ADC. His autos are important too but his main damage comes from his abilities, namely his Q. Now if you know how to dodge abilities and leverage your E (when to be aggro vs use it defensively) then Ezreal can be a very oppressive ADC to play against. That's why KR ezreals do better than EU and NA. KR players are more mechanically-focused in their gameplay and ezreal gives you an extra flash essentially to fight with. On top of that being a skillshot ADC he is literally all skill expression. If you hit Q's you deal more damage but also you lower the CDs of your other abilities which in turn allows you to deal more damage. It's a infinite feedback loop of cooldown reduction so long as you hit your Q's and have good positioning as an ADC in general.
@@YuYuYuna_ agreed. I dnt play log cause I get so tilted cause there will be lanes I can win ez but my 1000iq chally support "knows" kog is weak early, so I get poked under tower then dove over and over when we could have been bullying the lane. Na
Why does it need a rework? If you hit your farm you get your items earlier and on better base timings. It's literally just a skill that has to be learned.
I mean if you think there's not a significant and noticeable difference between 30 ms, 70 ms and 200 ms then you've just never played on those pings before.
one of the worst coachings ive seen in a while also the build you told him to go just int trinity? yeah he really can auto xerath xayah graves and tf!!!! XDD
@@jollyjungler3166 Can you? The title says literally nothing about the client in this session being masters. What it DOES say is "Master ADCs from previous seasons." He's taking this session and making a larger point regarding ADC players on average are struggling. Hence the "Master ADCs" wording and not "This masters ADC from previous seasons" Sounds like you lack reading comprehension skills.
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This is probably one of your best coachings I've seen. You and the client have great back and forth. I really like that you explained why you wanted him to do things.
I wish neace explained the “why” a little more not gonna lie. The direction is great. But sometimes I struggle with linking what and why as a takeaway
@@ZaddySeeBot you don't see it much explained in videos cause he tells low elo players to just listen to him and explains it post game to them(wich u don't see in the videos) cause low elo players can't follow instructions that fast and it's easier to make them just listen than guve them a reasoning than and there
@@ZaddySeeBot He talks with them after the game about his reasoning in his coachings. You can also infer a lot of reasons as to why the things he says are correct by seeing them have a net-positive effect in the game. Here, for example, he told the ezreal to step into the xerath poke instead of running away while dodging because then you can threaten autos and q's. The ezreal player started doing this and the lane when drastically better for him because instead of dodging away and letting the xayah get control over the wave he stepped into the poke while trying to dodge it and auto the wave at the same time. You can tell what Neace was teaching is correct because you would rather fight the poke lane and and fight for control while it's in the middle than let them just bully you and poke you while you try to farm under tower. Everyone learns differently of course but it helps to be fairly inquisitive about things and using logical reasoning to think why something might be good to do.
100% agree explaining the why behind things is soo helpful. This type of video with video analysis attached would be dope!
same really helpfull ,like i main ez adc and am gold 2 that was like getting coached after watching like 100+ neace videos
One of the better NEACE coachings in recent history. A lot of explanation into why we are doing what we're doing in the lane and in the matchup. Good feedback.
I always thought ezreal should be played as a poke ADC, try to keep enemy bot away from the minions and slow push\freeze. Interesting take with the hard shove every wave. Great lesson!!
Ezreal is an amazing duelist with 5 stacks.
most people use him as a spellcaster, i hate seeing that shit, makes my pp go smol.
Poke champs tend to want to shove because it makes the enemy wave smaller and makes it harder for the enemy to dodge the poke. If you freeze on a poke champ the enemy has a big wave to hide in and get the cs without being punished. Engage lanes want to freeze if possible because they can run you down the lane and kill you if you try to break the freeze.
that was me, thanks for the great coaching neace. played this game a long time and i was still learning a lot the whole session, definitely lit the fire in me to climb seriously and not autopilot. hope you the best i'll be back.
Divine sunderer is only bought like 1% of games on ezreal in KR while in NA its bought nearly 10% of games with a much lower WR. That might actually be the diifference, KR players can do math for their builds
Very good point!
A lot of popular NA builds make no sense to me.
I have no clue why people build that trash item on him anymore. It's just an objectively worse item. Sunderer has +5 more AD (40 vs 35 of Triforce) but you lose 30% attack speed on Triforce. Both give 300 hp and 20 haste.
No, Koreans suck at builds generally. Koreans were always building Triforce over Sunderer on many champions. Right now, this is optimal, as Sunderer is only a good dueling item now.
Wow a lot of info on this video. Thank you nease. Pls more of this type of video
I've also read somewhere that in bot-lane, if you are against a poke support like the Xerath, you shove them into their tower because the poke support with their adc will have to deal with the wave first or risk stepping over large waves to do the poking. Alternatively, if you have a poke support like the Velkoz it's just as great because now that they have no wave to deal with, he is free to poke them. If you have melee supports, you want the opposite, to be pushed in but keep your HP high, to then have the room (full lane) and resources to engage.
Is that part of the reason why Neace was instructing the Ezreal to full shove nearly all the time? How do you know when not to shove and when to slow push?
Yeah you pretty much covered it. It does depend on the team comp. At the same time if you don't know where the enemy jungler is, you do have to be more careful and assume he could be nearby. It just sucks having a xerath shove into you because his range can make it hard to farm under tower. You would only allow this to happen if ur jungler is coming to gank.
is the minion wave on your side, slow push7stack a wave and hard push next one so a big wave is under their tower. If it is in the center you can decide to slow push or shove depending where they are and who they are. If the minion wave is on their side just shove so you stop them from stacking waves.
This is the general concept yes, its important to focus on the note that he has a velkoz himself, so the support matchup is poke vs poke. Both sides are wanting the exact same thing, so ideally being the wave controller as an adc, you want to enable your support's win condition as much as possible. It's also "generally" a good idea to always be pushed up in bot lane. It allows roams for dragon control and random jungle fights that may occur on your jungler and places pressure onto the enemy to make a move. Also allows warding timers to watch for incoming ganks. Having prio is an important thing in the bot lane, even if it's just a small amount of prio that isn't quite crashed into a tower. Overall I try to keep the enemy near their freezing point, which you think would be not what you want. There are exceptions of course for some games... Exceptions to this might be having a leona support that actually punishes well at a freezing point near your tower. You don't want her to int dive enemy tower ever. But if you have a leona that afk does nothing, then forget she even exists and try to be safely pushed up, fighting for vision control as much as possible and winning off your jungler's dragon calls. Champs like blitzcrank are the opposite. He doesn't pull himself in, but instead pulls them to you. Having less enemy minions in front of him actually gives him more options for his pull to land. It's very champ specific. Pretty much, you're unable to do much yourself, so you play off whoever is giving you results for that game while kind of testing your support early on and seeing what they'll do. It's complicated. Slow pushes are also a thing and better when you are REALLY good at timing with your junglers clear time and pinging dragon timer. If you can build a slow push and have it crash the moment dragon spawns AND your jungler is ready, you've done something great. That's probably one of my favorite things to do whenever possible. Another reason for a slow push might be a diving opportunity or fishing for a roam timer for your support. If your support roams to a soon to spawn herald topside, a large crash gives you time to buy, return back, and farm safely for awhile on the bounce back. It's all in the timing for slow pushes I feel. They don't last forever, but give you a moment to breathe or punish IF your team has abilities/items/summoner spells/advantages of any kind over your enemy AND uses the timer properly. If either of those things aren't true in your game, then slow pushing is practically useless. Freezing when ahead can be an option as well if you can permanently hold enemy botside off their minions and can draw enemy jungle pressure down to also punish them. Otherwise it may be better to just take everything on the map with your lead, including the enemy jungler camps as you go from taking tower to tower on the map. But many things have to have gone well first for that scenario to appear. LOTS of scenarios.
But what if you have a poke support, so you push to give him the opportunity to poke, but the ennemy team has a melee support whom wants to be under his turret ? You are kind of making him a favour by pushing. Imo it would be better to let them shove you in, so your support can still poke, but it's harder for them to get anything done. What do you think ?
@Sasha I suppose this sounds like more of the slow pushing scenario to me where I still want to be pushed up as much as possible but with a wave of some kind so I don't get grabbed. Gotta make that tank support dive a fat wave that helps you fight back, or make plays with your jungler to counter their engage by having him sit in a bush just behind you with your prio. Really if you are using a poke comp correctly though, then the enemy tank should never be able to reach you. People make kiting mistakes all the time though and get punished, or they don't flash the flash because they don't see it coming and get too comfortable thinking they've already checkmated the enemy at their tower, blasting their Q's on repeat instead of hovering the D or F key to react to them. I can't say that hasn't ever happened to me either. Everyone messes up. So I'd likely opt into slow pushing, building a wave, and hard crashing into a poke harass as often as I'm allowed to with this one. Early laning phase is safer for the poke comp because damages are still lower for all ins and towers lose resistances after 5 minutes, so opt into hard leads early with your poke and only harass them under their towers instead of using that time to get plates. You hope you get fed enough early on that they never get to play the game or control the wave. When resources get low, you use the large crash as a back timer instead. This is somewhat of a special case scenario and a harder to play to it's fullest potential one. Lots of places for mistakes to happen. Improper kiting, jungler/mid roaming interactions, dives, etc. Things can mess this lane up for the poker pretty quick as well as the tank if the tank does not have the patience to stay back long enough to keep their HP up or something. What you want to avoid with the poke support is getting dove under your tower. Freezing before your tower is good and fine for a bit while you transition into a slow push back, but if it ever crashes into your tower, you're in danger. It's certainly a skill matchup and not as simple of a lane as poke-vs-poke. Gotta take turns with that wave control if you can't just brute force take control of it.
8:57 the classic "i don't even play xaya" E, R combo LOLOLOL
I live in the high country in Colorado and play on wifi. My ping is all over. Usually sits around 60 at lowest. Goes triple digits from there.
Arizona 60ms+ brothers stand in solidarity with Colorado ping. We will climb despite the uncontrollables
I haven't finished this video yet. Literally have just watched the beginning hearing these Ezreal stats and my first thoughts are, yeah, that's because ezreal is actually an awesome early game duelist with a stronger passive than people believe it is in laning phase, and he scales amazingly through mid game on top of that. Late game that passive hardly means anything outside of pushing lanes. Korean server is known for these early to mid game constant fights so Ezreal would thrive there more than other adc's who either have to have long CD abilities come back up or need attack speed items to be decent. You can kind of see proof of this again too being that the First strike ezreal is being played here with longer game times more often and stronger mid game spikes happening than in korea where they prefer the PTA early game fighting build for early game skirmishing. Part of it I think is meta, and part of it is using Ezreal to his full potential. Ping can probably also be a small factor, but minimal in my opinion.
I love watching your coaching videos. League is so complicated and difficult for newer players but it's one of the best games ever made and I love seeing people just getting into it and getting the help and encouragement they need to become a rounded player. Low elo players don't have good game sense. Like they might try to clear a wave before recalling or rotating and by that time it's too late. It takes being around better players to really start comprehending the finer points of the game and the importance of quick and decisive action. There's so much shit to think about and keep track of in this game that cool guys don't look at explosions is great advice, because when you play this game every second is important. You can get to Gold easily just bullying pings when YOU know what to do. If you can get your team to make the right plays at the right time even if they are garbage players it's easy to get out of bronze and silver because most of the time even if the enemy has an advantage they don't press it so if you can pressure your team to make the right calls when you have the advantage you will win most of your games. Ping is your best friend in low elo. If you know your team is doing something stupid spam them to back. If you know you can get baron after a double kill spam it. If you know where the jungler is point it out. Getting bad players to make the right plays is most of the battle. They will fight for no reason, chase for no reason, rotate for no reason and completely waste their time and not rotate when they should.
10:08 got that Lonely Island reference.
A goldmine of informations for all the adc's out there. One of your best.
Keep going coach!
South African here, playing on EUW at 180 - 200 ping, and Ezreal still slaps.
Perfect timing, just started playing this champ super fun
I have much respect for neace's coaching. maybe when i finally get a job I'll do some sessions.
I was literally typing the ping thing when the student said it. Ezreal is much harder to play in NA and even EUW because if you don't live right on top of the server you're going to have some degree of latency to deal with. No matter where you live in Korea, though, your ping's going to be very low, because of both distance and infrastructure. However it's obviously not the whole story, I think the skill level in Korea is also obviously higher.
wing tower to maintain your 5 stack passive on towers as waves come in is also very big. your q will bring your w up costantly so you can land the next one on them with them shoved under tower.
Neace, love your videos, very nice to teach people new stuff to improve themselfs, and for free, you're a great guy, and can't wait to see you on the new Thor love and thunder, as Gorr. :)
Just had a game as tank ezreal (grasp procs off Q + titanic). Had 5,100 hp. Went 23/3/15. Champ is cracked.
@neace
I need you to add a list of the music in your videos.
It's really gotten better and better lately and I really want to add ehm to my playlists.
omg is that finally a video on ez? My main and only 🔥
Long overdue
I play Ezreal and when I moved from Florida to NY my ping went from 55 to 28 and my Ezreal winrate went up like 2.5% lmao. It's the only champ I play where the ping made a notable difference
The biggest tip I learned was watching faker play on stream... The biggest thing that stuck out to me was when he said "I'm not doing enough right now". That's the mindset: what's the next move? Why am I not being productive?
Still a question, how do you get value out of your support being an enchanter with Ez, when you have an agressive engager in the enemy team ?
I suggest them to roam, but its gold elo soloQ man, they dont feel confident enough to do so.
I play lulu a lot, I’ll stay with the ezreal if there’s no roaming potential. Engage supports are easy to play into, I just auto them 🤣
Ezreal always feels pretty free to play against. Madman just presses E forwards to miss his Q and get blown up
Ez is also one of the most fun adcs out there. His skill ceiling is through the roof and he is not as binary as jinx for example.
What did he mean by "trying to play the line" in 2:59?
I feel so targeted by this video intro. I am that exact Diamond 1 player from years ago that is stuck in Plat for hundreds of games now :D Gonna try to work on that macro. Ty for the video Neace
After the CD buff on Ezreal ult last patch makes even more sense to just spam random ults on CD
The Ezreal stats in Korea were due to the patch not being out long. Now Ezreal is a D tier pick in Korea also on u.gg.
The winrates are still higher than NA or EUW, but he's under 50%
Love the data-based approach
A 51% win rate doesn't necessarily mean those 49% of games where ezreal is on the losing team that the Ezreal was playing poorly, OR that the 51% were playing well. But Korea has always loved EZ haven't they?
EUW, Italy, 30minutes from a big city, 800KB download, 400KB upload, 60ping
also my friends 10minute from my house, 100GB download, 20 ping
Velkoz with bush control is huge. If they favecheck or ward the bush velkoz can just combo and ult.
im just gonna play ezreal the way i always play ezreal, the way i have been playing ezreal for 12 years since season 1.
sombo learn nothing new. ok.
we don't change.
even if our elo might be a little bit lower now than it used to be.
we still don't learn nothing. we refuse.
that's why we did not finish school
Great session. Thanks.
Constant drag prio. Usually I get drags during laning phase. Because they are behind in items and prio. So even if they came drag we have advantage.
Whats up with the discord stream lag
Aw hell yeah. This was a lovely surprise today. I main ezreal so this was a really great session to watch and reaffirm things I knew were correct in my play while learning things that I need to do more of and the logical reasoning behing doing them. As you said most ezreals tend to play like pussies when against a lane like this with xerath and I'll admit sometimes (not always) I do play passive and just dodge away instead of stepping forward and trying to dodge while autoing. It mainly depends on how confident I feel that day in my ability to finesse the lane so-to-speak.
It's actually the opposite. How he's playing is the easiest way to play the lane. They long you stay in the wave the more opportunity you have to be poked, so by autoing the minions and Qing on CD your giving them less time to harass you.
@@totemgod4386 The opposite of what? I wasn't talking about the client's play in this video. I'm talking about the things Neace teaches in the video about ezreal as a champion and the logic behind why they are correct.
@@YuYuYuna_ I'm just saying that playing the way he does is essentially 'playing like a pussy' because the goal is to get you out of the lane taking minimal damage. Like, for example, it's actually hard mode to just let them shove you in
lOVE THIS VIDEO! this has great communication
Many adcs have a very bad minion wave management
This video is great thank you Neace
On the topic of ping.. I'm in Montana, and never was above 50.. if I hit 60 I was having a bad game lol.. now I'm lucky and excited if I get less than 100.. and if I do it becomes quite the majestic match of.. if I Q now.. it'll hit in 2 seconds...
Sheesh I'm playing on like 100
13:50 would of let the tower eat the wave and you just focus on the wave then finish off the tower. That way enemy bot lane falls even further behind.
i started the game 3 years ago in a year and a half a peaked d4 0lp as adc.. i perma banned my acc .. then i perma banned 20 more accs while being under 100 150 soloq games on each acc.. everytime at max plat 4.. sometumes silver sometumes gold sometimes plat 4 and i perma ban it.. honnestly im starting to think that league of legends as an adc player is straight up UNPLAYABLE.. and i just cant get back to diamond honnestly i even think i am 1 billion times better than when i peaked d4 i just cant play the game without perma banning every single acc i play in
I fail to see how your level of play is the reason you are getting perma banned on 1 account let alone 20 of them. Sounds like you have serious anger and addiction issues if you've been banned that many times and still keep playing the game. You either need to drop your ego and attitude to improve or just quit.
@@YuYuYuna_ honnestly my ego about how good i am is long gone... from playing so many games in smurf que... obv i know i can get to diamond if i dont perma an acc under 100 150 games... but thing is yeah it was addiction and deep unconcsious anger issues... 2 months ago when i perma banned my last acc i was gold 1 promos for plat in 80 games.. i came to realisation of my addiction and anger and actually ego around trying to prove myself .. sonce then i havent played alot.. im still level 29 and im still honnor level 2 wich is an achievment for me but honnestly idc that much about the game anymore... its fun SOMETIMES but others it isnt and so i just dont play..and if i play if i get annoyed i aknowledge it but i dont let it take over.. its strange.. but like something flipped inside of me and i try my best .. i have more fun.. at the same time idc what happens at the end.. its like i finnally realised its just a game hahahaha
@@YuYuYuna_ and when i say the game is unplayable i mean that alot of time is lost in bad quality games that is undeniable.. im not proud of the fact that i have around 25 perma banned accs but ive accepted it not like apatheticly but just it is what it is.. of anything all this pain made me realise that its just a game.. its meant to be addictive but the choise is urs what u want to make of the game... something like spiritual awakening 😅
Yeah that's what I do as well. Just f key then ult or don't. The f key is max one second. I personally just f key and look at health bars. Then it's a yes or no. It's a second max.
Thank you!
Zeri and ezreal are the best adcs right now. I've been playing both. Match history is full blue. Not a single red in the past 20 games.
i was diamond 1 adc in season 3 - 6
now im plat, i was stuck in gold for long time. i switched to mid because i just dont have succes as adc.
and i have been getting permabanned on my accounts because i just get so mad at these whiny supports crying and trolling every other game.
how is it possible that i get 13 lp and lose 17 for like 50 games now, like is it always gonna be like that, how does it make sense, how do i fix that and how do i climb when i need over 60% wr
See my League addiction video. Riot doesn't want you to climb.
@@NEACE but how do others climb, like why do i need to play like dia in plat, how does anyone get into like masters with 53% wr if i need over 60
@@dusanpavlovic2201 Genuine advice if your MMR is that fucked: buy a new hand leveled level 30 account for $12~ and start over. I'm not a fan of starting new accounts because a lot of people complain when they're getting +15 -15 but if you are getting +13 -17 I would just buy a new account.
@@YuYuYuna_ how do i fix it
@@NEACE why would they not want you to climb...how are you supposed to improve or get better then if they won't let you climb
I'm still going to go for level 2 and push even with Jarvan. The thing is if they don't punish you for it you can do it. You can escape from Jarvan ganks with your E.
You're missing the point. Why even risk it. Also in that hypothetical there is a blitzcrank as well, so you E the J4 E-Q and then blitz goes for flash Q and blows your flash. Now you are fairly vulnerable during future trades if the blitz forces you to use your E because he sees J4 coming botside and then you now have no E or flash to dodge the J4 E-Q. Very specific set of events but these aren't at all uncommon situations when you have a strong early ganking JG paired with a blitzcrank/engage support.
Even if TF ulted bot you wouldn't die. You can cleanse or qss his yellow card. Save E for everfrost. And side step his cards.
Client's voice is kinda nice
UwU
Damn, looks like a nice one i can't watch. The video beign 15 fps gives me motion sickness.
youtube really should make another like button that says I fucken love it
With item advantage and minion advantage it's hard to lose a fight unless you make a misplay. Aka wasted E then died. Because they shouldn't kill you with E.
I push either way no matter the support. If I'm allowed to push I'll push. I don't trust my support in solo queue.
I'd like to go heal instead of cleanse, you have E anyways. As long as you stop wasting your E you'll be fine.
Yeah ezreal is super safe. It's always the goto AFC pick for first pick and for solo queue.
30:00 well my answer is dodge its unplayable
Jax coaching one day?
200ms in south africa its amazing
Dude I swear ping makes no sense, like this guy gets 70 in Nevada like how I’m in Houston and I get 50(40 if no one else is on the internet) now correct me if I’m wrong but houston seems farther than Nevada to Chicago
What elo is this?
Gold
You are keeping pressure. You pressure them so hard, even if Graves comes bot they won't have the confidence to follow up fully.
Perma shove mode. Your tower never goes down unless if the enemy rifts bot.
Perma pushing doesn't mean miss all cs auto attack only. It means auto attack plus land all cs.
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
Farming under tower with xerath poking is the same as daring under tower against Teemo top. It's not possible.
NEACE IS THE GOAT
Does NEACE stand for No-peace?
Perma shove back and buy and then the enemy can't back and buy without missing wave because you shove faster.
I was playing on 115 to diamond its possible
The point isn't if it is possible or not. The point is that the higher ping you have while playing a skill shot reliant champion the worse experience you will have and the harder climb will be.
@@YuYuYuna_ the harder climb the more fun u get destroying ppl with someone like eze with 115 ping
I've heard that kr players are all mechanics no macro.
They are way more aggressive yes and try to win the early, macros don't matter :)... that's maybe the problem, I always see this passive ezreals, just sit back and poke, probably a waste of potential
@@sugestar The champion in a way encourages you to think you should play the lane passive. He scales with items and more haste/CDR and is a long range ability-based ADC. His autos are important too but his main damage comes from his abilities, namely his Q. Now if you know how to dodge abilities and leverage your E (when to be aggro vs use it defensively) then Ezreal can be a very oppressive ADC to play against. That's why KR ezreals do better than EU and NA. KR players are more mechanically-focused in their gameplay and ezreal gives you an extra flash essentially to fight with. On top of that being a skillshot ADC he is literally all skill expression. If you hit Q's you deal more damage but also you lower the CDs of your other abilities which in turn allows you to deal more damage. It's a infinite feedback loop of cooldown reduction so long as you hit your Q's and have good positioning as an ADC in general.
@@YuYuYuna_ agreed. I dnt play log cause I get so tilted cause there will be lanes I can win ez but my 1000iq chally support "knows" kog is weak early, so I get poked under tower then dove over and over when we could have been bullying the lane. Na
If you play passively. You sir under your own tower eating xerath Q's for the rest of the laning phase.
Try zeri she's super fun and good too.
No offense but barely you see a good Ezreal in games and its on the enemy team most of the times xD
me on 99ms
30:08
Just google what sraka is in Ukrainian.))
Some mechanics need to be reworked.
Morn
Ool
kr has better hand mechanics....
Once again cs should be reworked. First back should have a Sheen.
He could of had it if he had sold refillable
Why does it need a rework? If you hit your farm you get your items earlier and on better base timings. It's literally just a skill that has to be learned.
70ms :') "Bad ping"
I play on 200ms and I love playing ez
I mean if you think there's not a significant and noticeable difference between 30 ms, 70 ms and 200 ms then you've just never played on those pings before.
@@YuYuYuna_ I know theres a difference. And I would like to play on lower ms because it feels better on ez. :')
2nd
First comment 😎
Here's your crown.👑
You are unkillable.
one of the worst coachings ive seen in a while
also the build you told him to go just int
trinity? yeah he really can auto xerath xayah graves and tf!!!! XDD
This guy was never master. You can see it in his micro. Hardstuck p5/g1 since season 4. And as an Ez OTP myself I just cant watch this guy holy moly
Who said he ever was...
@@sugestar can you read?
@@jollyjungler3166 Can you? The title says literally nothing about the client in this session being masters. What it DOES say is "Master ADCs from previous seasons." He's taking this session and making a larger point regarding ADC players on average are struggling. Hence the "Master ADCs" wording and not "This masters ADC from previous seasons" Sounds like you lack reading comprehension skills.
Practice cs in a bot game please FFS. Terrible cs for an ezreal player.
holy shit man, you wrote half the comments in here lol