It's super cool, but I don't understand how someone's father could be alive in a time when his son was leading him, then die in the past? How did his dad exist in the future if he died? Maybe I just suck at understanding time travel.
@@WhiteOutify Time travel is quite difficult to understand especially depending on the rules a certain movie uses. But the way I understand it is it's a chicken and the egg situation. Kyle being the chicken and the egg. It's like in the flash comics. Eobard Thawne (the reverse flash) is from the future and he idolizes the flash on an obsessive level. He wanted to be the flash so badly that he replicated the event that created the flash and gave him speed. When he travels to the past to tell the flash that he'll carry on his legacy he accidentally discovers in the flash museum that not only is he destined to become the reverse flash and be the flash's greatest enemy, but that he's the only one the flash had to kill in order to stop. So if I understand it right, it's what's called a "predestination paradox". A time loop. By John sending Kyle back, John is responsible for his own existence. And there's never a timeline where this doesn't happen which makes it a fixed point in time. Most of my time travel knowledge is from flash media so I may have some things wrong but it seems like the terminator more or less follow the same rules.
@@gagetaylor192 The chicken and the egg has an answer. The chicken egg came first. At some point throughout the evolution of the chicken there was an animal who was very similar to, but not quite a chicken who laid an egg with a chicken inside.
@@KrimetTStarKiller Okay, but in the sense of time travel they both came first. I'm sure in actual evolution that's how it worked but in terms of time travel I don't think the actual answer to "the chicken or the egg" applies.
Fun Fact: OJ Simpson was originally going to play the terminator but Cameron thought he wasn't convincing enough to be a soulless killer. Cameron denies this but Arnold confirmed it to be true.
From a "weird history" book I had read, Cameron's exact dismissal was along the lines of "Who'd ever believe a nice guy like OJ could ever be a remorseless killer?"
To me, the greatest part of this movie is that when Kyle Reese was wondering what Sarah was thinking of at that exact moment the picture was taken. Turns out she was thinking of Kyle. Lovers lost beyond time.
IMO, Lance Henriksen playing as the Terminator while Arnold plays Kyle would've been *terrifying* , imagine an averagely sized, visibly aged, seemingly feeble 5'8 man fling around _Arnold _*_goddamn_*_ Schwarzenegger_ like a ragdoll, would've really placed the Terminator as a machine not to be reckoned with.
I think that's rather the point of T2. Robert Patrick is a smallish, slightly built man, but his uber-formidable terminator easily beats Arnold's in a fight.
Strange fact: This is the only Terminator movie that has an actual reason for him to have sunglasses. Every other movie he just has them because it was such an iconic part of the character.
I think in T2 the sunglasses represents the T800 still being just a machine for killing. However the time when it was removed, it symbolizes that the T800 has grown and learned to be more than just a machine. The other movies is just for looks though
Man 1984 was a banger year. Ghostbusters, Temple of Doom, The Karate Kid, Beverly Hills Cop, A Nightmare on Elm Street, Friday 4 The Final Chapter, The Terminator, Gremlins, so many classics in that year wow
I still miss Stan Winston. Sometimes you just need a dude that can go "Oh we can totally make a robot for that" regardless of creature size. Like Rexy and the Xeno Queen.
Fun fact: When pitching the film to producers, Lance Henriksen was sent to show them what the terminator would be like, so he dressed up as the Terminator, walked into the producer's office, sat down and just stared at the producer, before leaving. He was trying to give off a threatening presence. Later when James Cameron recommended Lance for the role the producer said "anyone but him". Also, Lance later realized this plan could've went way worse after learning the producer was a champion boxer.
The Producer to James Cameron: “DO NOT TRUST HENRIKSEN, I SAY AGAIN, DO NOT TRUST HENRIKSEN! SOAP, GET DOWN!” If you know where that reference is from, pat yourself on the back.
T2 is also horror adjacent in my eyes, the T-1000 is basically a slasher as well and he rarely uses guns to do his killings as compared to the T-800, there are some down right horrific death scenes, some genuinely terrifying moments involving torture, and the nightmares that Sarah has are... goddamn. I'd recommend covering it in the future. :3
I was hoping he would at least cover T2.. I know it’s not as widely acknowledged as horror adjacent, but liquid metal man is creepy as hell, and the death of the foster dad has stuck in my mind since childhood.
Not the security guard? The body STILL twitching until the T-1000 pulls the weapon he stabbed him did it for me (and hey that would make the twins who played the guard and T-1000 probably the only twins who appeared on the kill count um twice?).
T2 is an absolute masterpiece, one of my all time favorite films for the past 30 years, and definitely the greatest sequel of all time. I wanna see it Kill Counted so badly!
Lance Henriksen also dies by Terminator (this movie), Alien (well pretty much dead by Alien 3) and then by Predator in AVP. He's also 2/3 for fighting bigfoot lol.
Something people tend to forget or don’t know about the first film is that it’s a horror thriller with sci-fi elements. It was T2 that gave the franchise its action-packed reputation.
Still the scenes with the T1000 still made it feel like a horror movie sometimes especially the scene where he kills John’s dog and even tho we don’t see it. Robert Patrick’s menacing face made it more scarier.
The scene of the Terminator in the police station is truly striking because it's the best scene depicting how unstoppable he is. Sarah and Kyle are for the most part two unarmed people just running from the Terminator. But then it seems like they are safe in a station filled with dozens of guys armed with pistols, shotguns, and even automatic rifles, in any other slasher film they'd be safe, but the Terminator literally just walks in and effortlessly mows them all down without even takaing noticeable damage. Combine that with the music and it's truyl a chilling scene.
@@haiz768The Terminator was actually one of the most requested movies to be covered on The Kill Count. Also, it's his show and he can cover whatever he wants.
@@haiz768Running out of ideas? Bro, do you truly grasp just how many horror movies exist? And how many keep being made? James has enough content to last until the universe ends.
Random fact: the tanker truck that runs over the Terminator is the exact same model as the toy truck that the Terminator runs over with his car a lot earlier in the movie.
@@haiz768 There's literally so many horror movies he hasn't covered. Hell he himself has said he'd love to cover the rest of the Puppet Master series, and there's like 10 of those things. It's not a matter of running out of ideas, it's a matter of covering films that people will actually tune in to watch the Kill Count for.
Not to mention, movies often fall under multiple genres. Doesn't make them any less horror if they can also be categorized as Sci-Fi, action etc. This movie scared the hell out of me when I first saw it.
The best thing about this movie was how no matter how they were able to knock the terminator down, it kept on coming. it was a terrifying version of Wile E Coyote in a way
I love that in the behind the scenes when Arnold was doing his fire arms training he spoke at length to his teacher about how a machine would handle each weapon. It really shows in police station massacre when he is effortlessly duel wielding two guns that should require you to two hand and shoulder press them. Add this to his movements throughout the movie and he sells the calculated, unstoppable killing machine that he’s playing. Also fun fact the sound design gets messed up during that massacre as when the terminator clearly fires the pump action spaz shotgun the sound used is for his assault rifle firing off a burst shot.
Behind-the-scenes info for '80s action/horror movies just hit different. It always seems like they're flying by the seat of their pants and making wild improvisations.
It really shows how much effort and creativity went into the sets. It's something you rarely see anymore due to CGI. Practical effects, just like CGI, can be horrible and easily taken advantage of. However, when done right, it really stands out.
We gotta get a petition for James to cover T2, that’s my favorite movie of all time. The effects are unmatched to what I’ve seen and I feel like he would enjoy the behind the scenes stuff
It's no doubt a gem, but I wouldn't really classify it as a horror movie full of kills like the first movie was. The T-1000 had a few on screen kills, but that was really it, while Arnold's t800 was ordered not to kill by John conner. The only notable deaths I can recall are the t-1000 killing johns foster parents and Miles Dyson getting caught in a cross fire and exploding after warning the surrounding police to get away before he dies triggering the explosion
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 as much as I wanna disagree, I totally get it. I’ve fallen in love with the special effects over the years and think it would be dope to learn about on here, but there really aren’t many kills like a horror movie should have. Like you said, rly just the dad getting armed to death
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182there’s also the security guard that got stabbed in the eye, which was pretty brutal. But overall it feels more like an action film with some violent kills than a horror movie.
"Arnold Schwarzenegger playing the part of.. TITLE CARD" is officially my favorite title card intro so far 😂 also I think James should cover Terminator 2: Judgment Day. The T1000 was a scary villain
Thanks for the excellent count guys. My Dad passes away this week, and the last movie we watched together was Terminator. Keep making badass videos, they bring people a lot of joy.
Fun fact, When Kyle arrives in the past he asks a person what the date is. The person says Thursday May 12th, meaning a lot of the kills happened on Friday the 13th.
At least the the second one. I don't give a crap about the others but Judgment Day is my favorite. Sarah O'Connor finally becomes the iconic badass we all know her as instead of this whiney brat that "can't even balance my checkbook". Sure it's more action with the damn mini gun, and sure John limits the kills. But, still a TON of horror elements. The t2 murders John's step family including the dog (which is always horror unless it's John Wick 😂) and "scream" style impersonating the voices just like this one. The creepy orderly in the insane asylum, the vision of the future, all the cat and mouse at the end and I LOVED how the melting T2 turned into the screaming faces of everyone he had "been". It's at LEAST as horror adjacent as Aliens 2 which is also more action than the original thriller.
Im realy only hoping for the second one considdering its one of the greatest if not the greatest action movies of all time, and id love to see all the behind the scenes info on T1000
i love how Ginger runs in Slow motion and the terminator be like "nah that ain't working" he started blasting more at her even after he shot her once Savage as hell!
James Cameron: The demand for the sequel got bigger each year. James in one month: The demand for the kill count of the sequel got bigger each week. Edit: What’s your favourite Terminator movie?
This is the only channel where I actually look forward to seeing what sort of skit or gag you put together for the sponsorship segment. It's really appreciated. I know it takes effort to try and keep it fresh and entertaining, and you're absolutely nailing it.
For the police station scene: “We’ve got thirty cops in this building.” In “Terminator 2: Judgment Day,” “He killed seventeen police officers that night.”
I've always viewed that as the other 13 were wounded but survived Or some of them seeing the attacker was not going down decided 'screw this' and got the heck outta dodge. The machine was not exactly making sure they were all dead. Just shoot and move on as it was pursuing its real target. That and some of those shot looked like they could of survived.
I'd also note that in a deleted scene from the police station, Traxler was wounded, but gave Reese a message and an assault rifle to keep Sarah alive; presuming he had been made a believer of Kyle's story and didn't die.
Somebody probably already said this, but Lance Henriksen was also killed by a Xenomorph (Queen in Aliens), Predator (Scar in AvP), and a Terminator (by the T-800 in this film).
@@BTZombie88Ummm, actually ☝️🤓 Bishop was eventually killed by a xenomorph; the one that took out Hicks, Newt, and the ship they were all on. It can be argued that the ship crashing is what killed him, or Ripley unplugging him after reanimating his head for questioning, but it was the direct actions of the xenomorph that caused all of this. So, it stands he was killed by the each of the Big Three. 😂
@@BTZombie88 Ummm actually ☝️🤓 We’re geeks, not nerds. Nerd implies a lack of social skills. Geeks just geek out on things. All jokes aside, I think having a deep appreciation for things is what makes someone cool. It shows that you don’t take life at purely a surface level, and that you take time to observe and understand culture and humanity. As long as you’re not a dick about it (which would make you a nerd).
10:48-11:17 fun fact: this entire scene is actually revisited in Annihilation Line, the story DLC for Terminator: Resistance. You play as a squad member of Kyle Reese and you actually get to meet and know the female soldier (who the game says is named Corporal Charlotte Ferro) and the truck gunner (who the game says is named Evans) before this scene goes down. You also get to actually reenact the battle that this scene shows off, which makes Evans and Ferro’s inevitable deaths hit much harder once you’ve actually spent some time with them
18:51 so glad thar Cameron stood firm and the phrasing of this line, even though I see why Arnold wanted it to be "I will be back." Idk why but simply making it this tiny but informal was so cool.
Do my eyes deceive me, Dead Meat actually doing a KILL COUNT for The Terminator!?! I have been waiting almost since this channels beginning for this to happen, one of my favourite youtubers doing an kill count video about The Terminator, one of the best films to ever come out!?! I consider my almost 7 year old wish fulfilled, thank you.
I thought my eyes deceived as well, I thought that ain't no horror movie but I remembered this movie can kinda be considered horror but I sure was surprised.
18:16 ...little known fact... Legendary Tool guitarist, Adam Jones, worked for Stan Winston's EFX team, on Jurassic Park, when he decided to play rock band full time and start a band with Maynard James Kennan.
I think T2 is still horror enough. The scene where the T-1000 kills John's guardians and he has a blade through his aunts mouth is haunting and fuckd me up as a child
ABSOLUTELY you should do T2. It's iconic, and while not as horror adjacent, some scenes like the T-1000 killing and replicating people can get in that territory. Even if we don't, I'm glad we got this one!
The fact it takes place in 2029 while we’re in 2024-2025 and we’re developing ai is absolutely terrifying how fast we’re going to make the terminator into real life
Sigh, "ai" is marketing BS. It's just the same ol' algorithmic generation we've had for years but on steroids. It's not sentient, it'll never be sentient. It's just doing some complex math and shitting out an image or string of text based on data it's been fed in the past. Also, it requires a shit ton of people on the other side of the world to tell it what it's even looking at so it can actually function. It's also just another tech scam that currently has no profit model and exists off investor money it'll never be able to pay back so it's going to go the way of the NFT soon enough.
here are two fun facts: 1. when arnold read the line ill be back he said to james it dosent sound like a machine so camron said: what does the goddamn script say i dont correct your acting and you dont correct my writing: 2. at 12:29 you can see theres a picture of a dead women so it could be sarah anne conner
LET’S GOOOO!! I’ve Said for Years that the First Terminator’s a Sci-Fi Slasher, just with Guns, instead of a Knife. Glad You’re Covering this, James! One of My Absolute Favorite Movies 🤍
13:30 I'm actually surprised how many people keep calling the terminator from T1 a T-800 when the T-800 actually appears in the second movie. T1's terminator is a T-101. There's is probably a lore reason why these 2 models look so identical but both movies clearly specify these 2 terminators as distinctly different.
I don't think the concept of the t-(insert number) was invented at the time it was just Cyberdyne systems model 101 so I'm pretty sure t1 and T2's Terminator are the same model
T-101 is the outer skin type (so all T-101s look like Arnold, and all T-102s for example would look like somebody else), T-800 is the model number of the metal endoskeleton-as opposed to the more primitive T-600s mentioned by Kyle Reese and actually seen in Terminator Salvation and the Sarah Connor Chronicles, and the more advanced liquid metal T-1000.
It also mentions in the novelisation that the Terminator in T1 is definitely a T-800, because in it Kyle Reese is wondering during the scene in Tech Noir whether it's a T-700 (less armoured endoskeleton) or it's a T-800 (more armoured endoskeleton), so he can gauge how difficult it will be to defeat, and then he concludes to himself after shooting it repeatedly and it getting back up that it's a T-800 because it is more resilient.
@@Doyoueverwonderwhywerehereit mentions in the text of the (official) novelisation that it's definitely a T-800: Kyle Reese is wondering to himself in the Tech Noir scene whether it's a T-700 (less armoured endoskeleton) or a T-800 when he's fighting it in order to gauge how hard it will be to defeat (then concludes it's a T-800 once he sees it get up). Also Kyle Reese in the film's dialogue mentions the less advanced T-600s (who were covered in rubber skin, and which we actually see in Terminator Salvation and the Sarah Connor Chronicles): "the 600 series had rubber skin, we spotted them easy". So it was definitely a concept from the very beginning.
Fun Italian fact: we are (possibly) the only dub that had to change "I'll be back" in another phrase: "I'll wait outside" For those who asked: in the others movies we correctly translated it in "I'll be back/I'll return"
@@sebastiancastellanospinpin adaptation: we can't always resort on using the same exact sentence (mostly because the timing of how English people say a word and how the Italians say it are different), so we need to mix up a phrase, but not the context of the dialogue. For this case, I read, it was explicitly for the lip sync
I lost my dad last month and he is the one who introduced me to this movie, love to see it being covered by one of my favorite channels! Loved the video.
I know the other Terminator films aren't horror films, but just like Mortal Kombat got an exception I am BEGGING for full coverage. I remember being a Terminator fanatic when I was a kid and this was a fantastic dose of nostalgia
The behind the scenes of these early Cameron projects really reinforces the idea of movie magic. The use of miniatures and camera tricks and whatnot is just astounding. I rewound one of the early shots with a power loader in Aliens over and over again because it looks TOO real. Incredible stuff.
The special effects were just as good in Cameron's days of more limited resources as they are in the present day, when he has unlimited resources, uses them to craft elaborate worlds, and doesn't have any mental resources left over for an interesting, engaging story.
I don’t think it’ll happen. You said it yourself, it’s action packed. In my opinion, Silence of the Lambs isn’t really horror, it’s more of a crime drama/thriller.
The beginning of the movie starts out like a slasher movie then it becomes an action movie by the middle and end. I would still classify it as horror-adjacent though would like to see a kill count one day just so we can see James talk about Stallone
I'm impressed with all the information about the movie. One interesting fact I found out about was that The Terminator was "inspired" by several works of the late sci-fi author Harlan Ellison, namely the Outer Limits episodes "Soldier" and "Demon With the Glass Hand" . There's a massive controversy about it but if memory serves correctly, it was settled out of court in turn for some pay and acknowledgment in future prints which is why he's mentioned at the credits in later prints of the film. Cameron went to admit that having to give in to the lawsuit instead of fight it was one of his biggest regrets but was forced to do it since he wasn't a big name at the time and Orion Pictures said that if he had fought the suit and lost, the payment that Ellison wanted was going to come out of Cameron's own pocket.
I will say, having seen Soldier before, there are some striking similarities to some scenes. The interrogation scene in the police station especially. While it's pretty clear Cameron borrowed some stuff from those episodes, he changed more than enough and mixed up those elements into a very different thing. Like Demon With The Glass Hand is about a robot from the future fighting in the past but besides that? It seems to have little to do with the Terminator judging by the plot synopsis. I suppose if you smushed those two together and REALLY squinted you MIGHT have an argument but it's pretty damn weak. It reminds me of when people say Tarantino ripped off a Hong Kong movie called City on Fire. Which sounds true if you just read it on paper but if you actually watch City on Fire? The only thing similar to Reservoir Dogs is the last 10 minutes. RD takes the last 10 minutes and blows up the basic concept into a full movie. Besides the broad strokes of those last 10 minutes, the movies aren't really similar at all. I can see why Cameron was sad about not fighting seeing as any reasonable judge would have laughed Ellison out of the room.
"That neighbours kid" showed me this movie when I was 7 in 1991. 25:16 This image in particular. I'll never forget ;). I was to scared to walk home in the dark. 200meters. Hid behind streetlight poles to see if coast was clear...
Also, fun fact about James Cameron, he actually contributed to the theories of how Titanic sank. We know it split in two, but we don’t know how to went down, no pun intended.
Cool fact:One of the possible financiers for the film didn’t think the idea of The Terminator was very scary. So Cameron had Henriksen dress up like the character, kick open his door, and sit down at the guy’s desk. When he asked if that scared him, the financier replied absolutely and agreed to the movie. God, I wish I was a fly on a wall that day
There aren't words to explain how impactful this movie was or how much it caused me to get into horror. It started with apocalypse movies that aren't 100% horror and slowly it moved into slashers and campy horror. I absolutely love these movies. Terminator: Dark Fate wasn't great but it gave us more Linda Hamilton as Sarah Connor, and that's 1000% okay with me
Gloopy globs is literally the perfect way to describe those sounds in the score 😂Adding “Gloopy Globs” to my list of favorite KC lines, along with “Billy’s Werewolf looking dad” and James breaking into the “Sister Sister” theme song 😂😂😂.
Honestly, the stop motion is pretty good. I've seen some stuff on youtube where they bump up the framerate and it looks pretty convincing once the motion is smoother.
I’ve been a long time fan of this channel and I am really happy and surprised to see this movie added to the Kill Count. I love that we are adding true diversity of horror to the channel. Which weirdly, i think it’s time there should be a Kill Count for Climax (2018) by Gaspar Noè. It’s truly a one of a kind movie. It’s horror but also a musical with an insanely captivating first act that absolutely goes into absolute vile.
Something I really wish was tacked onto this movie. At one point Reese told Sarah he always wondered what she was thinking during that picture. Once she saw it she could’ve wrote I was thinking about you on the back, since she was.
YES! Thank you so much James! So glad you're finally counting the kills on the Terminator series! The first one definitely counts as a horror film, and that and Judgement Day are among my favourites!
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What do you know we got the terminator series on the kill count well just one at least so let's start the terminator kill count & get to the kills!
Are you guys now doing non horror movie kill? It not a horror movie.
I love the terminator movies 🤩!! Please keep doing kill counts on the terminator franchise 🤩!!!
Zoran is the perfect Terminator.
"I'd die for John Connor" and he did, died so he could be born. Great layered line in a great movie full of great lines.
Definitely a little on the nose though.
It's super cool, but I don't understand how someone's father could be alive in a time when his son was leading him, then die in the past? How did his dad exist in the future if he died? Maybe I just suck at understanding time travel.
@@WhiteOutify Time travel is quite difficult to understand especially depending on the rules a certain movie uses. But the way I understand it is it's a chicken and the egg situation. Kyle being the chicken and the egg. It's like in the flash comics. Eobard Thawne (the reverse flash) is from the future and he idolizes the flash on an obsessive level. He wanted to be the flash so badly that he replicated the event that created the flash and gave him speed. When he travels to the past to tell the flash that he'll carry on his legacy he accidentally discovers in the flash museum that not only is he destined to become the reverse flash and be the flash's greatest enemy, but that he's the only one the flash had to kill in order to stop. So if I understand it right, it's what's called a "predestination paradox". A time loop. By John sending Kyle back, John is responsible for his own existence. And there's never a timeline where this doesn't happen which makes it a fixed point in time. Most of my time travel knowledge is from flash media so I may have some things wrong but it seems like the terminator more or less follow the same rules.
@@gagetaylor192 The chicken and the egg has an answer. The chicken egg came first.
At some point throughout the evolution of the chicken there was an animal who was very similar to, but not quite a chicken who laid an egg with a chicken inside.
@@KrimetTStarKiller Okay, but in the sense of time travel they both came first. I'm sure in actual evolution that's how it worked but in terms of time travel I don't think the actual answer to "the chicken or the egg" applies.
Fun Fact: OJ Simpson was originally going to play the terminator but Cameron thought he wasn't convincing enough to be a soulless killer. Cameron denies this but Arnold confirmed it to be true.
Make's Sense
That's irony for you
Irony at its finest
From a "weird history" book I had read, Cameron's exact dismissal was along the lines of "Who'd ever believe a nice guy like OJ could ever be a remorseless killer?"
Makes sense. OJ Simpson of 1984 was the cop who saved the day on Towering Inferno.
To me, the greatest part of this movie is that when Kyle Reese was wondering what Sarah was thinking of at that exact moment the picture was taken. Turns out she was thinking of Kyle. Lovers lost beyond time.
She got pregnant by her son's best friend/ father. Time traveling is wild 😂
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Whoa
IMO, Lance Henriksen playing as the Terminator while Arnold plays Kyle would've been *terrifying* , imagine an averagely sized, visibly aged, seemingly feeble 5'8 man fling around _Arnold _*_goddamn_*_ Schwarzenegger_ like a ragdoll, would've really placed the Terminator as a machine not to be reckoned with.
I think that's rather the point of T2. Robert Patrick is a smallish, slightly built man, but his uber-formidable terminator easily beats Arnold's in a fight.
When we get access to dimensional travel, I'll love to watch this.
That's why the T-1000 is so scary. He just looks like a regular, unassuming guy.
Which is exactly the original idea for the terminator. The idea that it could be anyone who could walk through a crowd unnoticed
oh yeah, totally agree!
Strange fact: This is the only Terminator movie that has an actual reason for him to have sunglasses. Every other movie he just has them because it was such an iconic part of the character.
Also hiding his face ;)
Yet, unfortunately, they all failed to match T2's badassery.
@@CliffuckingBooth Yep it makes it easier to conceal stunt people
cyborgs learn fashion sense by subroutines
I think in T2 the sunglasses represents the T800 still being just a machine for killing. However the time when it was removed, it symbolizes that the T800 has grown and learned to be more than just a machine.
The other movies is just for looks though
Man 1984 was a banger year. Ghostbusters, Temple of Doom, The Karate Kid, Beverly Hills Cop, A Nightmare on Elm Street, Friday 4 The Final Chapter, The Terminator, Gremlins, so many classics in that year wow
We also had that kickass Apple advert based on the book of the same name by George Orwell
Exactly bruh I always talk about this
I’ll throw This Is Spinal Tap, Repo Man, Starman, Blood Simple, 1984, and Pope of Greenwich Village on the list.
Yeah, idk what George Orwell was yapping about
@@ArkhamMaster. Warning about the dangers of totalitarianism and fascism.
RIP Bill Paxton. The one and only who faced the three most iconic movie monsters (Terminator, Xenomorph and the Predator)
So did Lance Henriksen.
I never noticed
lance hendrikson also shares that distinction
Don’t forget twisters 🌪️ 🌪️🌪️🌪️🌪️🌪️
And Titanic! He dove down to the Titanic
I still miss Stan Winston. Sometimes you just need a dude that can go "Oh we can totally make a robot for that" regardless of creature size. Like Rexy and the Xeno Queen.
Now they just do everything in computers.
Fun fact: When pitching the film to producers, Lance Henriksen was sent to show them what the terminator would be like, so he dressed up as the Terminator, walked into the producer's office, sat down and just stared at the producer, before leaving. He was trying to give off a threatening presence. Later when James Cameron recommended Lance for the role the producer said "anyone but him". Also, Lance later realized this plan could've went way worse after learning the producer was a champion boxer.
The Producer to James Cameron: “DO NOT TRUST HENRIKSEN, I SAY AGAIN, DO NOT TRUST HENRIKSEN! SOAP, GET DOWN!”
If you know where that reference is from, pat yourself on the back.
@@UHOH_415do you have the dsm?
@@UHOH_415ghost and roach 😢
@@UHOH_415 RIP Ghost and Roach.
Henriksen is the MVP
T2 is also horror adjacent in my eyes, the T-1000 is basically a slasher as well and he rarely uses guns to do his killings as compared to the T-800, there are some down right horrific death scenes, some genuinely terrifying moments involving torture, and the nightmares that Sarah has are... goddamn. I'd recommend covering it in the future. :3
I was hoping he would at least cover T2.. I know it’s not as widely acknowledged as horror adjacent, but liquid metal man is creepy as hell, and the death of the foster dad has stuck in my mind since childhood.
Not the security guard? The body STILL twitching until the T-1000 pulls the weapon he stabbed him did it for me (and hey that would make the twins who played the guard and T-1000 probably the only twins who appeared on the kill count um twice?).
Even if you don’t count it a horror it so good he may as well and no one would complain
T2 is an absolute masterpiece, one of my all time favorite films for the past 30 years, and definitely the greatest sequel of all time. I wanna see it Kill Counted so badly!
Agree. Would love him to cover T2.
It's impressive that Bill Paxton dies by a Terminator, a Pred, and an Alien, but survived numerous Twisters.
Lance Henriksen also dies by Terminator (this movie), Alien (well pretty much dead by Alien 3) and then by Predator in AVP. He's also 2/3 for fighting bigfoot lol.
"Game over,man! Game over!"
Skill issue i guess
He also survived a trip down to the titanic.
Had no idea that guy was Paxton. I loved his role in Apollo 13 and Thunderbirds.
Something people tend to forget or don’t know about the first film is that it’s a horror thriller with sci-fi elements. It was T2 that gave the franchise its action-packed reputation.
Still the scenes with the T1000 still made it feel like a horror movie sometimes especially the scene where he kills John’s dog and even tho we don’t see it. Robert Patrick’s menacing face made it more scarier.
The scene of the Terminator in the police station is truly striking because it's the best scene depicting how unstoppable he is. Sarah and Kyle are for the most part two unarmed people just running from the Terminator. But then it seems like they are safe in a station filled with dozens of guys armed with pistols, shotguns, and even automatic rifles, in any other slasher film they'd be safe, but the Terminator literally just walks in and effortlessly mows them all down without even takaing noticeable damage.
Combine that with the music and it's truyl a chilling scene.
Maniac Cop cribbed a lot from this.
He’s running out of ideas at this point.
@@haiz768what's bro talking about?
@@haiz768The Terminator was actually one of the most requested movies to be covered on The Kill Count. Also, it's his show and he can cover whatever he wants.
@@haiz768Running out of ideas? Bro, do you truly grasp just how many horror movies exist? And how many keep being made? James has enough content to last until the universe ends.
Random fact: the tanker truck that runs over the Terminator is the exact same model as the toy truck that the Terminator runs over with his car a lot earlier in the movie.
Neat
Your exactly right! An International Harvester Transtar.
I've always maintained that the first Terminator is technically a horror movie, so I'm glad to see it here.
I mean plot wise outside of the future shit, it is literally just Halloween
He’s obviously running out of ideas.
@@haiz768 There's literally so many horror movies he hasn't covered. Hell he himself has said he'd love to cover the rest of the Puppet Master series, and there's like 10 of those things. It's not a matter of running out of ideas, it's a matter of covering films that people will actually tune in to watch the Kill Count for.
Not to mention, movies often fall under multiple genres. Doesn't make them any less horror if they can also be categorized as Sci-Fi, action etc. This movie scared the hell out of me when I first saw it.
The horror vs action genre classification of the Terminator series is a highly debated topic. No need to take a shot at James.
why is no one talking about how SHREDDED JAMES IS LIKE OK I SEE YOU JAMES
He isn't tho. What do you think "shredded" means?
@@wallythewondercorncake8657 Bro is ripped wym
Best part of this whole episode? Your acting. The discomfort you portrayed while being naked for Time jumping into the numbers made me laugh to tears.
I didn't expect James to be so ripped too lol
@@VertigoIncline-tv2rd I know, right? 😂
Looks like James has been hitting the gym, good for him! Definitely has the start of a sleeper build going on.
I didn't know James had a body. His wife is so lucky
IKR?! That was an awesome view! 🔥
25:09 james is wild for that "womp womp"💀💀💀
@@christopherlmoo 2 sec difference
@@christopherlmoowow so different
@@christopherlmoo womp womp
@@christopherlmoo please tell me you are being sarcastic
@@christopherlmoo it’s literally a 2 second time difference. Not that big of a deal
The best thing about this movie was how no matter how they were able to knock the terminator down, it kept on coming. it was a terrifying version of Wile E Coyote in a way
Or the fact that Roadrunner isn't as invincible as he used to
The inversion of this is what makes the Terminator such an effective hero in 2; he won't stop until John Connor is safe
Just like Chumbawumba
12:05 The little ’Yeah’ from Pugsley was so cute. 😆🤣
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I love that in the behind the scenes when Arnold was doing his fire arms training he spoke at length to his teacher about how a machine would handle each weapon. It really shows in police station massacre when he is effortlessly duel wielding two guns that should require you to two hand and shoulder press them. Add this to his movements throughout the movie and he sells the calculated, unstoppable killing machine that he’s playing.
Also fun fact the sound design gets messed up during that massacre as when the terminator clearly fires the pump action spaz shotgun the sound used is for his assault rifle firing off a burst shot.
Fingers crossed 🤞 this means we can potentially get Godzilla (1954) to be Kill Counted for its 70th Anniversary 🙏
He’s already said that he won’t do it for reasons too obvious to mention
@@axelnilsson5124what reasons
@@axelnilsson5124why
@@coolkenmanit would be next to impossible to count the kills in the destruction scenes.
@Vigil-X1 copyright, maybe?
Behind-the-scenes info for '80s action/horror movies just hit different. It always seems like they're flying by the seat of their pants and making wild improvisations.
Ikr they’re really cool.
and just oodles of cocaine
This film they had no permits it was all guerilla style.
Back in the golden age of coke
It really shows how much effort and creativity went into the sets. It's something you rarely see anymore due to CGI. Practical effects, just like CGI, can be horrible and easily taken advantage of. However, when done right, it really stands out.
Traxler: "We've got 30 cops in this building."
James: "Restart the clock!"
We gotta get a petition for James to cover T2, that’s my favorite movie of all time. The effects are unmatched to what I’ve seen and I feel like he would enjoy the behind the scenes stuff
It's no doubt a gem, but I wouldn't really classify it as a horror movie full of kills like the first movie was. The T-1000 had a few on screen kills, but that was really it, while Arnold's t800 was ordered not to kill by John conner. The only notable deaths I can recall are the t-1000 killing johns foster parents and Miles Dyson getting caught in a cross fire and exploding after warning the surrounding police to get away before he dies triggering the explosion
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 as much as I wanna disagree, I totally get it. I’ve fallen in love with the special effects over the years and think it would be dope to learn about on here, but there really aren’t many kills like a horror movie should have. Like you said, rly just the dad getting armed to death
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182there’s also the security guard that got stabbed in the eye, which was pretty brutal.
But overall it feels more like an action film with some violent kills than a horror movie.
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182he’s done a lot of movies with really low kill counts
@@Nixus237yes, the Shining for example
"Arnold Schwarzenegger playing the part of.. TITLE CARD" is officially my favorite title card intro so far 😂 also I think James should cover Terminator 2: Judgment Day. The T1000 was a scary villain
tx and t rip and t3000 and rev 9: are we a joke to you ?
@@COUNTSAMINCULAyeah well t2 was classic those movies sucked
@@Logan_19_the first two terminator are masterpiece
Thanks for the excellent count guys. My Dad passes away this week, and the last movie we watched together was Terminator.
Keep making badass videos, they bring people a lot of joy.
I'm sorry for your loss ❤
sorry for your loss man
Fun fact, When Kyle arrives in the past he asks a person what the date is. The person says Thursday May 12th, meaning a lot of the kills happened on Friday the 13th.
It actually was Saturday in May 12th 1984. Probably that scene was filmed back in 1983.
if the whole Jurassic Park series can be covered on the Kill Count, here's hoping Terminator will be able to "be back" someday in future
yeah... no. the Jurassic Park sequels have at least slight horror elements
He still hasn't done Dominion but yeah I agree.
At least the the second one. I don't give a crap about the others but Judgment Day is my favorite. Sarah O'Connor finally becomes the iconic badass we all know her as instead of this whiney brat that "can't even balance my checkbook". Sure it's more action with the damn mini gun, and sure John limits the kills. But, still a TON of horror elements. The t2 murders John's step family including the dog (which is always horror unless it's John Wick 😂) and "scream" style impersonating the voices just like this one. The creepy orderly in the insane asylum, the vision of the future, all the cat and mouse at the end and I LOVED how the melting T2 turned into the screaming faces of everyone he had "been". It's at LEAST as horror adjacent as Aliens 2 which is also more action than the original thriller.
Yea only the second and third in my opinion those two have a lil horror in them especially the T1000 that thing in the final act was creepy ASF
Im realy only hoping for the second one considdering its one of the greatest if not the greatest action movies of all time, and id love to see all the behind the scenes info on T1000
i love how Ginger runs in Slow motion and the terminator be like "nah that ain't working" he started blasting more at her even after he shot her once Savage as hell!
You did good during the police station bit. You counted 17 kills and T2 confirms that!
It’s like Cameron watched the movie to count the police officers and counted 17 for continuity
Imagine counting the kills in this by hand to just watch the next movie and have it told to you 😅😅
A fun fact I enjoy about that scene: Arnold practiced shooting with rifles and reloading them without looking
@@nightwingjosh8491 He also learned how to do the one handed shotgun twirl thing in T2.
Good to know! 👍
James Cameron: The demand for the sequel got bigger each year.
James in one month: The demand for the kill count of the sequel got bigger each week.
Edit: What’s your favourite Terminator movie?
T2
T1 is my fave
Who's gonna tell Zhorin that, while pants are required for for the kills, there's no dress code for the numbers.
I want this to be addressed in his next appearance
Due to watching this just after a CinemaWins video, the only thing I thought of for that was
"James A Janisse's workout routine."
_Ding_
This is the only channel where I actually look forward to seeing what sort of skit or gag you put together for the sponsorship segment. It's really appreciated. I know it takes effort to try and keep it fresh and entertaining, and you're absolutely nailing it.
For the police station scene: “We’ve got thirty cops in this building.” In “Terminator 2: Judgment Day,” “He killed seventeen police officers that night.”
I've always viewed that as the other 13 were wounded but survived Or some of them seeing the attacker was not going down decided 'screw this' and got the heck outta dodge. The machine was not exactly making sure they were all dead. Just shoot and move on as it was pursuing its real target. That and some of those shot looked like they could of survived.
I'd also note that in a deleted scene from the police station, Traxler was wounded, but gave Reese a message and an assault rifle to keep Sarah alive; presuming he had been made a believer of Kyle's story and didn't die.
"...and the answering machine betrays her to its cousin from the future." LOL
Somebody probably already said this, but Lance Henriksen was also killed by a Xenomorph (Queen in Aliens), Predator (Scar in AvP), and a Terminator (by the T-800 in this film).
He wasn’t killed in Aliens though, he was ripped in half but being an android he was still working and even saved Newt afterwards.
@@BTZombie88Ummm, actually ☝️🤓 Bishop was eventually killed by a xenomorph; the one that took out Hicks, Newt, and the ship they were all on. It can be argued that the ship crashing is what killed him, or Ripley unplugging him after reanimating his head for questioning, but it was the direct actions of the xenomorph that caused all of this. So, it stands he was killed by the each of the Big Three.
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@@eyespy3001 god we’re all such nerds 🤦♂️
@@BTZombie88 Ummm actually ☝️🤓 We’re geeks, not nerds. Nerd implies a lack of social skills. Geeks just geek out on things.
All jokes aside, I think having a deep appreciation for things is what makes someone cool. It shows that you don’t take life at purely a surface level, and that you take time to observe and understand culture and humanity. As long as you’re not a dick about it (which would make you a nerd).
@@eyespy3001 Well I lack social skills AND geek out about things so I could be considered both.
10:48-11:17 fun fact: this entire scene is actually revisited in Annihilation Line, the story DLC for Terminator: Resistance. You play as a squad member of Kyle Reese and you actually get to meet and know the female soldier (who the game says is named Corporal Charlotte Ferro) and the truck gunner (who the game says is named Evans) before this scene goes down. You also get to actually reenact the battle that this scene shows off, which makes Evans and Ferro’s inevitable deaths hit much harder once you’ve actually spent some time with them
Yes It's pretty good that it expands on that scene from the 1st film.
I love that there’s always a quick explanation of who Dick Miller is and that he’s part of the extended intro.
18:51 so glad thar Cameron stood firm and the phrasing of this line, even though I see why Arnold wanted it to be "I will be back."
Idk why but simply making it this tiny but informal was so cool.
Do my eyes deceive me, Dead Meat actually doing a KILL COUNT for The Terminator!?! I have been waiting almost since this channels beginning for this to happen, one of my favourite youtubers doing an kill count video about The Terminator, one of the best films to ever come out!?! I consider my almost 7 year old wish fulfilled, thank you.
I thought my eyes deceived as well, I thought that ain't no horror movie but I remembered this movie can kinda be considered horror but I sure was surprised.
I'm so happy you committed to the "to the numbers" bit, this was one of my favorites in a long time
James will not be using time traveling for the Kill Count ever again. 😂
AWOOOGAAA
That Womp Womp at 25:09 is brutal
18:16 ...little known fact... Legendary Tool guitarist, Adam Jones, worked for Stan Winston's EFX team, on Jurassic Park, when he decided to play rock band full time and start a band with Maynard James Kennan.
True! He also worked on T2, Ghostbusters II, and Nightmares 4 & 5
It's why their music videos are so good as well.
James!! in 'Terminator 2: Judgement Day' somebody says something along the lines of 'that killed 17 police officers that night'! 17!!
And the math holds up, as he did count 17.
I think T2 is still horror enough. The scene where the T-1000 kills John's guardians and he has a blade through his aunts mouth is haunting and fuckd me up as a child
For people wondering what each kill takes place:
1. Soldier: 4:41
2. Punk Leader: 6:01
3. Street Punk: 6:05
4. Gun Store Clerk: 9:08
5. Sarah Louise Connor: 10:11
6. Soldier (AND NO, NOT THE SOLDIER FROM BEFORE!): 10:59
7. Gunner: 11:12
8. Matt: 13:42
9. Ginger: 13:47
10. Club Patron: 14:33
11-12. Club Patrons: 14:38
13. LAPD Officer: 18:54
14-20. LAPD Officers: 19:01
21-23. LAPD Officers: 19:16
24-26. LAPD Officers: 19:24
27-28. Traxler & Vukovich: 19:31
29. Desk Body: 19:37
30-37. Human Refugees: 20:41
38. Trucker: 22:55
39. Kyle Reese: 25:07
40. The Terminator: 25:37
ABSOLUTELY you should do T2. It's iconic, and while not as horror adjacent, some scenes like the T-1000 killing and replicating people can get in that territory.
Even if we don't, I'm glad we got this one!
The fact it takes place in 2029 while we’re in 2024-2025 and we’re developing ai is absolutely terrifying how fast we’re going to make the terminator into real life
This isn't "AI" today even though it's being called that. It's basically a souped-up version of predictive text.
Well I did call Ai Skynet last year
Sigh, "ai" is marketing BS. It's just the same ol' algorithmic generation we've had for years but on steroids. It's not sentient, it'll never be sentient. It's just doing some complex math and shitting out an image or string of text based on data it's been fed in the past. Also, it requires a shit ton of people on the other side of the world to tell it what it's even looking at so it can actually function. It's also just another tech scam that currently has no profit model and exists off investor money it'll never be able to pay back so it's going to go the way of the NFT soon enough.
Hopefully it doesn't become a prediction. 💀
Yeah and we are closer than ever to a nuclear catastrophe, so I guess… movie prediction is coming true!
James Cameron was a production designer on Galaxy of Terror(1981) with Robert Englund, the late Sid Haig, among others as well
LOL I saw that in the theaters
The quality of the production design makes it feel out of place next to the rest of the movie.
Would love to see James kill count that movie one day along with all the other Alien rip-offs
@@romangunter621 that would be great
@@romangunter621 "All" would take him more than a few years.
here are two fun facts: 1. when arnold read the line ill be back he said to james it dosent sound like a machine so camron said: what does the goddamn script say i dont correct your acting and you dont correct my writing: 2. at 12:29 you can see theres a picture of a dead women so it could be sarah anne conner
I 100% agree with the horror-adjacent classification of The Terminator. I was scared out of my wits by the literal killing machine as a kid.
Terminator should go back to horror roots and lower budget. Everyone wants to make T2 clones
I just spent five minutes trying to get a screen grab of Sarah and Pugsley. James’ “YEEEAHH” now lives rent free in my head 😅
LET’S GOOOO!! I’ve Said for Years that the First Terminator’s a Sci-Fi Slasher, just with Guns, instead of a Knife. Glad You’re Covering this, James! One of My Absolute Favorite Movies 🤍
13:30 I'm actually surprised how many people keep calling the terminator from T1 a T-800 when the T-800 actually appears in the second movie. T1's terminator is a T-101. There's is probably a lore reason why these 2 models look so identical but both movies clearly specify these 2 terminators as distinctly different.
I don't think the concept of the t-(insert number) was invented at the time it was just Cyberdyne systems model 101 so I'm pretty sure t1 and T2's Terminator are the same model
They're technically both correct as T-101 is the outer appearance, whereas the T-800 is the endoskeleton model.
T-101 is the outer skin type (so all T-101s look like Arnold, and all T-102s for example would look like somebody else), T-800 is the model number of the metal endoskeleton-as opposed to the more primitive T-600s mentioned by Kyle Reese and actually seen in Terminator Salvation and the Sarah Connor Chronicles, and the more advanced liquid metal T-1000.
It also mentions in the novelisation that the Terminator in T1 is definitely a T-800, because in it Kyle Reese is wondering during the scene in Tech Noir whether it's a T-700 (less armoured endoskeleton) or it's a T-800 (more armoured endoskeleton), so he can gauge how difficult it will be to defeat, and then he concludes to himself after shooting it repeatedly and it getting back up that it's a T-800 because it is more resilient.
@@Doyoueverwonderwhywerehereit mentions in the text of the (official) novelisation that it's definitely a T-800: Kyle Reese is wondering to himself in the Tech Noir scene whether it's a T-700 (less armoured endoskeleton) or a T-800 when he's fighting it in order to gauge how hard it will be to defeat (then concludes it's a T-800 once he sees it get up).
Also Kyle Reese in the film's dialogue mentions the less advanced T-600s (who were covered in rubber skin, and which we actually see in Terminator Salvation and the Sarah Connor Chronicles): "the 600 series had rubber skin, we spotted them easy".
So it was definitely a concept from the very beginning.
Fun Italian fact: we are (possibly) the only dub that had to change "I'll be back" in another phrase: "I'll wait outside"
For those who asked: in the others movies we correctly translated it in "I'll be back/I'll return"
Is there a reason, like it sounds poorly in Italian, or it was just the translators who said "fuck it change it" ?
@@sebastiancastellanospinpin adaptation: we can't always resort on using the same exact sentence (mostly because the timing of how English people say a word and how the Italians say it are different), so we need to mix up a phrase, but not the context of the dialogue. For this case, I read, it was explicitly for the lip sync
A tra poco ?
I lost my dad last month and he is the one who introduced me to this movie, love to see it being covered by one of my favorite channels! Loved the video.
I'm sorry for your loss ❤
21:41 the "honk honk" took me out 😂💀
I laughed now I can’t watch the love scene in The Terminator anymore because I end up saying “Honk!Honk!”
5:24 those 'gloopy globs' honestly sound like doom music
He Did it........
*HE ACTUALLY DID IT A TERMINATOR KILL COUNT*
The Question is will he do the Other Terminator Films
@@timbartschwolfman He confirmed in the Nope Kill Count that he won't, since only the first film is horror-adjacent, while the others are more sci-fi
@@timbartschwolfmanprobably not since until terminator dark fate this film was the most kind of horror kind of film of the trilogy
the other terminator film* there’s only 2
I think she have fun
23:59 Three Zombie references in one sentence, four if you count the sound effect lmao It's actually impressive😭
Dude James, thank you for doing Terminator. I’ve been waiting for this forever.
This gives me hope for Indiana Jones. But it’s unlikely
Cameron or dead meat?
@@propottylegend9439was just about to comment that
LOL, did anybody else LAUGH THEIR ASS OFF at what James said at 21:42😂😂😂??
Honk honk 🤣🤣🤣
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Sweet, a Kill Count of one of the 2 Terminator movies. Yep, only 2 Terminator movies were ever made and we're all happy about it!
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Will this ever end with the unearned hatred for the post T2 movies?
I agree with this statement completely ❤❤ Yep, ONLY two Terminator movies. Only two ❤❤
He won’t be doing the sequels because they don’t have enough horror elements.
@@rodian_skypyratz6181 he says during the credits that he’s not opposed to cover the sequels
Matthew Lillard's career alone makes me really want you guys to make make kill-count trading cards. I'd love a whole set of Lillards!
26:37 James Jacked
I know the other Terminator films aren't horror films, but just like Mortal Kombat got an exception I am BEGGING for full coverage. I remember being a Terminator fanatic when I was a kid and this was a fantastic dose of nostalgia
26:28 gotta say that was a serious mental flashbang. Ya look damn good james! Good on you for putting in the hours.
What a hottie!!!
The behind the scenes of these early Cameron projects really reinforces the idea of movie magic. The use of miniatures and camera tricks and whatnot is just astounding. I rewound one of the early shots with a power loader in Aliens over and over again because it looks TOO real. Incredible stuff.
The special effects were just as good in Cameron's days of more limited resources as they are in the present day, when he has unlimited resources, uses them to craft elaborate worlds, and doesn't have any mental resources left over for an interesting, engaging story.
"Im sorry" right at the start has me chuckling.
I have such fond memories of watching this as a kid at a friend's house. Those effects still hold up in my opinion.
Stallone's Cobra would be great kill count. It's like an a action pack silence of the lambs
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I don’t think it’ll happen. You said it yourself, it’s action packed. In my opinion, Silence of the Lambs isn’t really horror, it’s more of a crime drama/thriller.
@@JuanOrtiz-gv8pt yea but he's done Jurassic park and mortal Kombat before
@@JuanOrtiz-gv8pt Upgrade was also action packed, and he did that.
The beginning of the movie starts out like a slasher movie then it becomes an action movie by the middle and end. I would still classify it as horror-adjacent though would like to see a kill count one day just so we can see James talk about Stallone
James, I was eating when we got to 5:40, so now there's toast all over my computer screen, and I might actually die from laughter
I was dying of laughter (add it to the count) when an ad played the millisecond after this shot 9:05
Same I got an ad 😂😂
26:25 i thought only Chelsea can see that
It's about time.
Not only that it took James this long to get to The Terminator, but also it's a time travel movie.
... I'll see myself out.
I'm impressed with all the information about the movie. One interesting fact I found out about was that The Terminator was "inspired" by several works of the late sci-fi author Harlan Ellison, namely the Outer Limits episodes "Soldier" and "Demon With the Glass Hand" . There's a massive controversy about it but if memory serves correctly, it was settled out of court in turn for some pay and acknowledgment in future prints which is why he's mentioned at the credits in later prints of the film. Cameron went to admit that having to give in to the lawsuit instead of fight it was one of his biggest regrets but was forced to do it since he wasn't a big name at the time and Orion Pictures said that if he had fought the suit and lost, the payment that Ellison wanted was going to come out of Cameron's own pocket.
Classic American copyright.
I will say, having seen Soldier before, there are some striking similarities to some scenes. The interrogation scene in the police station especially. While it's pretty clear Cameron borrowed some stuff from those episodes, he changed more than enough and mixed up those elements into a very different thing. Like Demon With The Glass Hand is about a robot from the future fighting in the past but besides that? It seems to have little to do with the Terminator judging by the plot synopsis. I suppose if you smushed those two together and REALLY squinted you MIGHT have an argument but it's pretty damn weak.
It reminds me of when people say Tarantino ripped off a Hong Kong movie called City on Fire. Which sounds true if you just read it on paper but if you actually watch City on Fire? The only thing similar to Reservoir Dogs is the last 10 minutes. RD takes the last 10 minutes and blows up the basic concept into a full movie. Besides the broad strokes of those last 10 minutes, the movies aren't really similar at all.
I can see why Cameron was sad about not fighting seeing as any reasonable judge would have laughed Ellison out of the room.
"That neighbours kid" showed me this movie when I was 7 in 1991. 25:16 This image in particular. I'll never forget ;). I was to scared to walk home in the dark. 200meters. Hid behind streetlight poles to see if coast was clear...
21:38
I can't stop laughing so hard when he said honk honk
Also, fun fact about James Cameron, he actually contributed to the theories of how Titanic sank. We know it split in two, but we don’t know how to went down, no pun intended.
Dannnnnng, James! Giving us thirst traps for the To The Numbers?!
I came to the comments for this! Yas James! I see the gym dedication!
Now I see what Chelsea sees in him ///jkjkjkj haha
5:25 i thought i was the only one that died listening to this first time
Cool fact:One of the possible financiers for the film didn’t think the idea of The Terminator was very scary. So Cameron had Henriksen dress up like the character, kick open his door, and sit down at the guy’s desk. When he asked if that scared him, the financier replied absolutely and agreed to the movie. God, I wish I was a fly on a wall that day
I am no one to ignore a reminder of how hot James A. Janisse is...👀🔥 @26:20
18:44 James’ mind: “Ahhh crap, here we go again. Another high body count scene.”
The terminator has always been my favorite movie, I’ve been waiting sooo long for a kill count of it please please please do T2
I’ll be back on Sunday
There aren't words to explain how impactful this movie was or how much it caused me to get into horror. It started with apocalypse movies that aren't 100% horror and slowly it moved into slashers and campy horror. I absolutely love these movies. Terminator: Dark Fate wasn't great but it gave us more Linda Hamilton as Sarah Connor, and that's 1000% okay with me
28:24 ANDY NO
26:25 i see James' dead meat
James' 🤓👆
Looks like naked James A. Jannise is embrassing.
Gloopy globs is literally the perfect way to describe those sounds in the score 😂Adding “Gloopy Globs” to my list of favorite KC lines, along with “Billy’s Werewolf looking dad” and James breaking into the “Sister Sister” theme song 😂😂😂.
28:44 I love all the scream references in this video😭
Stop motion is dated, but that practical T-800, for the money they had, was damn impressive.
Honestly, the stop motion is pretty good. I've seen some stuff on youtube where they bump up the framerate and it looks pretty convincing once the motion is smoother.
7:17 Ayo, TWO Bigmacs for the price of one?? Living the life of luxury there.
James came in clutch at the right moment I was starting to get bored
Same
I’ve been a long time fan of this channel and I am really happy and surprised to see this movie added to the Kill Count. I love that we are adding true diversity of horror to the channel. Which weirdly, i think it’s time there should be a Kill Count for Climax (2018) by Gaspar Noè. It’s truly a one of a kind movie. It’s horror but also a musical with an insanely captivating first act that absolutely goes into absolute vile.
Something I really wish was tacked onto this movie. At one point Reese told Sarah he always wondered what she was thinking during that picture. Once she saw it she could’ve wrote I was thinking about you on the back, since she was.
YES! Thank you so much James! So glad you're finally counting the kills on the Terminator series! The first one definitely counts as a horror film, and that and Judgement Day are among my favourites!
"He killed 17 police officers that night. Men with families, children." Seriously use T2 its cannon