There is a video titled "top 32 reasons Fable 3 sucks" hahah. I didn't play it, I just played the first, but I will thank you if you can confirm all these things, hope you enjoy :) And the most important question here, why this guy don't have more views with this awesome skill to tell a history
hipstxrkat Well the pure vs corrupt and good vs evil was actually introduced with the meter in Fable 2. Fable 1 just had a more simple system for it. But I get what you’re saying. But in the fable series, “hero” just refers to someone who is of a number of bloodlines with special abilities. These include strength, skill, and will. Some heroes have all three (the protagonists)or some have just one (Hammer, Garth, and Reaver)
Or Jack is like a Elder Scrolls protagonist and got excused of everything fucked up he did by talking to a guard and either serving prison for 5 minutes or a bit of gold.
you do know that "hero" is just a title for people that can use magic in the fable games you know this because now matter what choices you make in the game you yourself are called a hero either way, rather it's good or evil his title "hero of heroes" only means he is basically really powerful
wryyy I agree he was chaotic evil, but he tried to appear as chaotic neutral, or chaotic good to gain favor with the people, as he wasn’t strong enough to outright control Albion like he was when he had his two companions.
"Almost destroyed albion" Id say scorching the land until the sky turned black and raising the ocean flooding the world goes pretty far in the destroy area...
Fable does something your not seeming to consider. They don't use the word "Hero" the same way. Hero does not equal good guy, going evil does not get you thrown out of the guild. the guild master himself says as much. Heroes in Fable are the ones trained to take on insurmountable tasks, making their definition much closer to the original demi-god version of the word than the modern good guy. Hercules was a jerk, and an idiot, but also a hero. As were any children of both gods and mortals. Jack is Hero of heroes because he is proven to be the strongest. not because he is the nicest
Y'know what really killed the Fable series, besides the lackluster final missions against Lucien and The Crawler? The fact that the series kept moving FORWARD in time. Look, I love my Master Flintlock Pistol as much as the next guy, but Fable is, always was, and always should've been first and foremost a FANTASY. Think about this for a second, if you pay attention to the Will throughout the series, it's clear that the further forward you go in the timeline, the weaker the will becomes, alluding to England's own stamping out of the possibility of faeries and such in IRL history. Since it's fantasy, and that's what we want, what the series should've done is go BACK in time. Instead of wanking over the details of the previous games and how great Fable 1 was, the rest of the series should've gone back in time to create certain parts of 1, when the magic was more powerful, the beasts were more terrible, and the world was more primal. Seriously, I wanna fight a Balvorn. They were known for devouring hundreds of people at a time, and that sounds brutal and amazing to me.
Bj Hunnicutt Lol. Not saying much but back in the day, Fable 2’s Baroque style setting was actually praised by many. Due to the fact that it was a unique setting with guns and highwaymen than other rpg games. Fable 1 didnt really had much of an interesting setting since its the same old medieval type world thats been played out in far superior rpg games like Elder Scrolls. Also, a fantasy setting can have guns and still be in fantasy genre. Hell, DC comics Sandman, one of the greatest fantasy stories of all time, takes place in the modern world.
@@godzilladude1231 It was still a bad direction for the series to be going in. Most of the fantasy elements from Fable 1 were abandoned/toned down to make way for a more industrial/victorian style. That's not what Fable is, Fable is medieval fantasy, not Industrial fantasy. Alot of the more interesting/fun stuff outside Fable 1 was in the *past* instead of the future. I'd rather see Jack of Blades when he was a hero over seeing how the Hero of Albion's great-great-Grandson is doing. I'd rather see Scythe when he was still properly alive over seeing 2 Kings having an argument. I'd rather see the magic when it was at its strongest over it being pushed aside in favour of guns. Etc.
Justa Person I think your talking about Fable 3. It was Fable 3 that kind of removed virtually almost all of the cool weapons AND takes place in Victorian Industrial style. Fable 2 takes place in the Age of Enlightenment and NOT in Industrial Age Victorian England. The story of Favle 1 was basically generic. Hack of Blades was awesome but the rest was meh. Fable 2’s setting was basically unheard of at that time hence why it was able to garner awards that Fable 1 didnt. Fable 2 didnt really remove much from Fable 1. Heck there are alot of things that Fable 2 added that Fable 1 didnt have like being able to choose to be a girl, family set up, multiplayer etc. The only thing it toned down was removal of armor but they reinstitate it with DLCs. Magic was not toned down but the new mechcanicw of the game with the permission to switch between mores of attacks with ease made the game easier. Sply put it was Fable 3 who took out most of it. They removed over three quarters of the weapons and the ability to mix magic made the game even easier. It also had a very useless set of melee attacks that dodnt make any sense so half of your weapons are useless.
@@godzilladude1231 FFS the age of enlightenment is very similar to the industrial revolution. The late parts of it are practically the same as the early parts of the industrial revolution. The watering down of the fantasy sucked and I'd expect my many people that played the first fable FIRST to think that. Fable 2 might of had improvements but it wasn't a massive improvement it's world was a down grade in quality though it had more quantity. Many people think that Fable 2 was the better game but then again Fable didn't sell half the copies that Fable 2 did. So most people played 2 or maybe 3 first and never touched the first game. Saying that Fable 2 was a more interesting setting are you fucking high? Lost Chapters shits on Fable 2 setting,characters and story.
@@godzilladude1231 Users prefer the first fable over fable 2. Critics just jizzed fable 2 for the time setting and guns. The reviews also stink of Microsoft money and stupid reasons.... www.metacritic.com/game/pc/fable-the-lost-chapters www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/fable-ii
you know, i've played fable tlc at least 40 times now and never have i questioned why they called him the hero of heroes or where he got the other 2 masks from.... or where he came from.... or why he wanted to make this world burn.... damn it all makes sense now !
@@KilurDragon Because the hero who beated back the court was supposedly dead but because he achieved immortality (probably from the sword) named himself Scythe. Jack is popular he is a powerful being.
Something to support your "Jack does whatever he feels like" theory is Jack of Blades kidnapped William Black and took him to the void, then he tried to enslave William with his sword of Aeons, however Will escaped with the sword. To me, that makes no sense. So i'd like to just believe that Jack kidnapped Will, took him to the void for tea and crumpets, then Jack gave his sword to Will (Although he made it look like an accident) then Will used that sword to defeat the Court.
Sorry for the bit of necro, but I always thought it was that William ended up reading a book, ended up teleporting himself into the void in front of Jack by accident, and Jack thought that was fascinating and then Jack decided to mess with him. I don't think he went out of his way to purposely kidnap him.
Both of them work in their own way: The first voice is just as you describe: creepy, manipulative, and snake-esque. The second is booming, intimidating and larger than life
Even as just a silly idea I think it would be interesting to have a Fable game where Jack is the playable main character. Because he's more or less a chaotic middle in a world where decisions are made on a whim all the time it would be interesting to see a demi-god interact and pave his path.
My only gripe with your theory is the definition of the word "hero" in Fable. It doesnt necessarily mean "good". This originates from William Black's Children who, despite many of them being petulant monsters, called themselves "heroes". Because of that, "Hero" is more related to our understanding of the word "fighter" than our understanding of the word "Hero". Being called the Hero of Heroes is just an acknowledgement of his reputation as a whole, not so much his actual good deeds. Of which he has done few.
That's true. But considering that they have drinks and children toys named after him, it can easily be seen that the people of Albion hold him in a warmer regard than the guild, no?
King J. Grim The drink doesn't really carry much weight. Drinks are often named after pop culture references or literary figures. So that's not really a big piece of evidence. As for the toys, there Are toys of Scythe too, if my memory serves. Scythe, not being the mythical figure that Jack is, wouldn't be a popular child's toy. this tells me that the toys are meant more to be an Easter egg for players than a toy that children in game actually play with. Dont get me wrong, I agree with your conclusion: that the public reveers Jack (because Albion views it's heroes like we do Prowrestlers for some reason), I just disagree with your evidence.
King J. Grim The drink doesn't really carry much weight. Drinks are often named after pop culture references or literary figures. So that's not really a big piece of evidence. As for the toys, there Are toys of Scythe too, if my memory serves. Scythe, not being the mythical figure that Jack is, wouldn't be a popular child's toy. this tells me that the toys are meant more to be an Easter egg for players than a toy that children in game actually play with. Dont get me wrong, I agree with your conclusion: that the public reveers Jack (because Albion views it's heroes like we do Prowrestlers for some reason), I just disagree with your evidence.
Well, not all of the evidence I present are conclusive; like the statue/memorial in the picnic area. But I appreciate that you do question my logic, important to be critical! Makes things live on longer :)
Hell, I'm just glad you can take criticism and not be butt hurt over it. Though, at the end of the day, I still don't think the people of Albion adore Jack. They just respect/fear him like they do all other heroes. They just respect/fear him the MOST, because of his long history and the power that he wields. Honestly, my reference to wrestlers and their cultural impact strongly mirrors that of the Heroes of Albion. It's hardly a perfect comparison, though, given that wrestling is ultimately fake and Heroes can do so much more than what we pretend wrestlers can do.
The term Hero in Fable is best defined by the definition of heroism that has to do with feats of strength as opposed to nobility. To be heroic, or to be a hero, is to possess and utilize great power, but in a way that proves yourself. I believe this is why renown is such an important mechanic in Fable, because it's basically your measure of heroism. Jack of Blades would be considered a hero, because Fable uses an operational definitiom of hero to mean: one who is heroic - which means: capable of great feats of strength/skill/will. He would be considered the "hero of heroes" euphemistically to suggest that his feats of strength are unmatched - even if he's done terrible things. Reaver fits the same profile. He's notorious for abominable things, but he possesses great power.
I recently played fable 1 this year, and gosh it has rich dark history being that my first fable game was fable 3, i later figured out all the main protagonists were related 😭.
This is very fucking good. Deserves more views for Fable fans, honestly. Subbing to you. It's crazy how much work you put into this video when it's about a 12 year old game. Again, great video! :)
Hero was a title given to anyone who completed the trails of the guild, the game specifically says during the training tutorial that you can become the hero that saves the world or the villain that burns the world. Even the bandit leader Twin Blades is a hero, he graduated from the guild too.
Great Vid. Jack was my favorite villain in any game I’ve ever played. Though I wouldn’t agree he was a hero by conventional definition, he wasn’t really a villain either. He was pure evil In a time when perceptions of an objective morality are becoming antiquated, villains like Lucian and Logan are just downers. I hate having to take down the otherwise good guy who’s forced into making hard decisions because life is complicated and blah blah blah. I can’t stand this trend in game narrative where we have to humanize the villain and make them a sympathetic character. If you don’t have a good or evil antagonist you can’t really have a good or evil protagonist it just makes the whole thing moot. Jack was a perfect villain. By the end of the story you either thought “I have to kill this asshole to save the world.” or “I have to kill this asshole so I can be worse.” “Some men aren’t looking for anything logical they can’t be bought bullied, reasoned, or negotiate with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.” -The Dark Knight Jack was the original Joker.
I always thought he was called a hero because there were bloodlines of superhumans with the ability to bend fate and gain great power. Wether they were good or bad.
What you didnt mention is that the Heros Guild is quite litterally the government of Albion. Towns are free to run thier own affairs, however the guild itself IS the military. Albion, was a military state. The way in which taxes were collected was through payment of quests. Quests being tasks for the hero's (a sort of militarized federal government) to complete, these could be helpful or harmful depending on the guilds era.
1:46 apparently he played a decisive role in some great battle in previous decades. The one thing you're told over and over again about Jack is that he is very, very old, older than the trees and mountains, he has, by happenstance done laudable things over that time.
I was heartbroken when I found out about Lionhead Studios was shutdown. p.s. I found out 2 1/2 years after it was shutdown Lost Chapters will always be my favourite
"Hero" were people with superpowers allowing them to harness magic. They literally sucked up energy from the experience they've earned to become incredibly strong, tall/skilled, and wizards.
Jack of Blades: The simulated player character during the world and lore building phase. I couldn't stop thinking this the more you spoke about him and his deeds.
This might be irrelevant and random, but i'm in the Fables mood. So i've got a fantheory for you. Theresa is the Queen of Blades. In Fable 2, Theresa manipulates literally everyone, Lucian, Hannah, Hero+Rose, etc. She manipulates everyone for the power of the Spire, now why would she need the Spire's power? Either to resurrect the court or to return her full power. Think about it, Theresa survived after 500 years whereas her brother who was MUCH more powerful didn't? Not only that, she can now see through all worlds and why would Theresa need the Spire? Because she DOES manipulate Lucian into building it, but Hero's sister isn't the manipulative type... But the Court certainly are.
jack of blades is a character that no other game really tried to make and he so unique and mysterious i liked that its hard for people to find information on him
Lady Grey was in Fable 2 also she was dead and you find her dead body parts all scattered around the map and you take a love potion she falls in love with the first person she sees and you have the choice to stay and let her love you or leave, I was being evil and let her fall in love with me, then killed her and the guy who loved her wow I'm evil
You're amazing, Jack of blades became the best antagonist for me since Lich King, man, liked so mucho, i hope you become a great youtuber, excelente work
Jack of Blades will always be one of my all-time favorite video game villains. He's cool, he's malicious, he's insanely cruel, manipulative, and above all, threatening. Not to mention he has one of the fucking *sickest* designs visually of ANY character I've seen in a game. Like holy shit that mask.
400 years wouldn't be enough to change the geography of the world. The layout of Europe and Asia didn't dramatically change between 1100 and 1500, right? Regardless, fable 3 takes place 50 years after Fable 2 so it's most likely a developer error to make sure the game wasn't 'redundant'
i have been assembling the 3 maps in fable 2 it has the miles between marked but not a complete map but fable 3 has complete map but does not have distances between fable 1./ lost chapters has a partially complete map and no distances you cant have all maps on one as over 400 years the land changes and settlements expand
I don't understand Jack as he is immortal, as are all creatures from the void, no matter how many times the court of blades is abolished they will always return in a different time but, Jack always acted as though he only had one chance to retrieve the sword of aeons. Even if his soul was destroyed in the mask it will recreate over time because the dead are always said to go to the void in the fable universe and recreate himself what does Jack need? An abundance of souls and the rest of the court I assume will need the same so what happened/happens when one or all of them returns/returned? The court of blades will always be the biggest threat in Fable and hopefully we will see him return in the future... if fable doesn't die out first XD
Think of it like the time you retrieved the key from the captain's office in Jack's prison. Now's your chance, fuck it up and you'll have to go through years of torture til you get another.
King J. Grim With videos of this quality i don't know how you have less than 1k subs to be honest. watching the video then seeing the numbers after i was blow away at the quality of the video for your sub count. :)
Anarchy Time Well, the only way I'll get more subs is for people like you to share the channel with friends etc. But I must ask, how did you find my video? :P
King J. Grim I was searching for more info about jack of blades because he is one of my more favorite villains out of the video games i have played. :P Saw the title when searching and it peaked my interest and glad i watched. :D
Jack of blades is my favorite character of all time. I bought a 2022 MT-03 Midnight Black simply for the body style (like a demon) and I am having it repainted and done up. I'll post a link with pictures after it is done. It's going to be EPIC!
interesting take on jack, I've heard the next fable could focus on the knight of blades or even queen, also may I trouble you for the the song that starts at 12:11? and which version it sounds like the fable 2 music box , thank you looking forward to future videos from ya
Hero is someone who is powerful in some regard. You can be a max Yellow stat hero who only accepts villinous quests and still be called hero just as often as an All Might styles character
If at E3 this year the stafe cut to black and i just heard "Jack of Blades... is... back" i would lose my shit! in that same voice and then Fable IV comes on the screen
Not gonna lie, I loved your interpretation of Jack of Blades and I think it's adds extra depth to an otherwise somewhat generic prophecy villain. And then I read the comment section, and that ruined it for me. I don't think these guys realize that using lore to discredit any depth and intrigue added to a character actually hurts the content that they're trying to promote.
Jack was a hero until getting sick of the guild and turning into a Powerful demon that feasts on souls. Apparently in the new fable game coming out Jack of blades is in it and you can either fight him, play as him, or play on Jack's side
Jack of blades got it all power, respect, immortality , and to become a freaking Dragon. Damn I think he deserves to be the greatest Hero in all of Albion even if he just a hero to himself.
In the Fable universe, Hero just means someone with Super Powers. Since the Jack Slayer/Hero of Oakvale died, there was less and less need for them or so people would have rightfully though until the Crawler came along. Firearms made it so that poorly trained peasants with the element of numbers, surprise and the reluctance of many Heroes to defend themselves, Heroes were proven to be easy to kill, thus few could have seen a need for them, and without the Super-Heroes we get to play via the Hero of Bowerstone and the Hero of Brightwall, they aren't wrong. But the word Hero is like Mutant in the Xmen universe.
Jack is kinda like the default player... Usually I play RPGs as a good character, but often I save, then go on mayhem destroying all, and then reload the save.
Fable was so good! And somebody needs to do a cosplay of Jack of Blades👌 By the way your house looks an interesting layout, looks like Downton Abbey house 😁
Hero in the Fable series doesn't necessarily mean "good person". It's used to refer to anyone capable of great deeds, you can go on a murdering spree and become the most evil person in the land, and you'll just earn more renown. Hero of Heroes probably just refers to the fact that Jack is terrifyingly powerful and up to that point no Guild Hero could even be a match for him.
Could one argue that Jack has a Lovecraftian view of right and wrong? That he doesn’t or can’t even begin to understand complicated compass of morality?
Shit I thought I subbed when I first saw your Dishonored vid about who Corvo killed.. Guess not but I am now. Great vids with the right amount of info and humor
That's great man, I'm hoping it's for Dis2. I saw your review for it and noticed you were fair about it despite loving the first one you still pointed out it's flaws(a good thing). I pretty much felt the same after doing both character runs but what disappointed me the most was them giving Corvo a voice, it really changed the character I played from the first one but it was still an amazing game that didn't end up being caught in the 1st's shadow.
Haha I haven’t played Fable in about 5 years and I still remembered that name. Fable is one of my favourite games, I’m sad I haven’t played the sequels yet.
Except the whole point of the fable series is that you can be both a good or an evil hero because the term hero isnt strictly attached to saving people but to fame and power.
The fact that people call Jack of Blades a hero is kind of the way things are in OUR world. There are PLENTY of people with statues of themselves on this dreary planet who got famous by doing VERY bad things...
...I mean, maybe. OR, the word "Hero" is used in this series to refer generally to an individual with the powers of Will, Strength, and Stealth.
This would explain (I'm going to use everyone's most favorite game in this series) the stats in Fable 3 with a Pure vs Corrupt and Good vs Bad meter
There is a video titled "top 32 reasons Fable 3 sucks" hahah. I didn't play it, I just played the first, but I will thank you if you can confirm all these things, hope you enjoy :) And the most important question here, why this guy don't have more views with this awesome skill to tell a history
hipstxrkat
Well the pure vs corrupt and good vs evil was actually introduced with the meter in Fable 2.
Fable 1 just had a more simple system for it.
But I get what you’re saying. But in the fable series, “hero” just refers to someone who is of a number of bloodlines with special abilities. These include strength, skill, and will.
Some heroes have all three (the protagonists)or some have just one (Hammer, Garth, and Reaver)
Laroosa Dalabarge lol I did the opposite spared whisper married lady grey
Or Jack is like a Elder Scrolls protagonist and got excused of everything fucked up he did by talking to a guard and either serving prison for 5 minutes or a bit of gold.
I miss Jack of Blades, such a good villain.
I cry every night
KingofArmatures his original voice was the best too
I miss the fable franchise.
@@WrestlingWithGod77 agreed. His original voice was much more unnerving compared to the deep voice they used in TLC
KingofArmatures um excuse me! You mean a great hero.😏
you do know that "hero" is just a title for people that can use magic in the fable games
you know this because now matter what choices you make in the game you yourself are called a hero either way, rather it's good or evil
his title "hero of heroes" only means he is basically really powerful
That's how I remember it too
Jared Davis no because in fable 2 hanna and reaver were heros however they didn't use will (magic) so ya I'm kinda a nerd
Green bleach replay the first game and listen to the guildmaster. Hero is someone who can master the three skills.
Oh ya I remember now its been so long :p
green bleach reaver can totally use magic
I mean he's in fable 3 and he looks the same age as he did in fable 2
there has to magic at work there
Jack was so great as a chaotic neutral ( with evil tendancies) villain. Loved him in Fable.
bro how you use such the right words its like scientifically accurate
silversleek his alignment is power
He was chaotic evil.
wryyy I agree he was chaotic evil, but he tried to appear as chaotic neutral, or chaotic good to gain favor with the people, as he wasn’t strong enough to outright control Albion like he was when he had his two companions.
Chaotic evil. Or neutral evil I think you'll find.
"Almost destroyed albion"
Id say scorching the land until the sky turned black and raising the ocean flooding the world goes pretty far in the destroy area...
True, but humanity still lived on, so they *almost* destroyed the world, not *fully*
Fable uses the literal definition of Heroes. Literally just someone who lived a life outside what we understand. As intended by the Ancient Greeks.
Well the literal meaning of hero is "dead man" and Jack certainly is fucking dead.
Fable does something your not seeming to consider.
They don't use the word "Hero" the same way.
Hero does not equal good guy, going evil does not get you thrown out of the guild.
the guild master himself says as much.
Heroes in Fable are the ones trained to take on insurmountable tasks, making their definition much closer to the original demi-god version of the word than the modern good guy.
Hercules was a jerk, and an idiot, but also a hero.
As were any children of both gods and mortals.
Jack is Hero of heroes because he is proven to be the strongest. not because he is the nicest
Unless during training you keep attacking fellow students then they might kick you out
@@343sinbad well I kept beating the guildmaster up and I still made it through haha
Classical definition of Hero
Y'know what really killed the Fable series, besides the lackluster final missions against Lucien and The Crawler? The fact that the series kept moving FORWARD in time. Look, I love my Master Flintlock Pistol as much as the next guy, but Fable is, always was, and always should've been first and foremost a FANTASY.
Think about this for a second, if you pay attention to the Will throughout the series, it's clear that the further forward you go in the timeline, the weaker the will becomes, alluding to England's own stamping out of the possibility of faeries and such in IRL history.
Since it's fantasy, and that's what we want, what the series should've done is go BACK in time. Instead of wanking over the details of the previous games and how great Fable 1 was, the rest of the series should've gone back in time to create certain parts of 1, when the magic was more powerful, the beasts were more terrible, and the world was more primal.
Seriously, I wanna fight a Balvorn. They were known for devouring hundreds of people at a time, and that sounds brutal and amazing to me.
Bj Hunnicutt Lol. Not saying much but back in the day, Fable 2’s Baroque style setting was actually praised by many. Due to the fact that it was a unique setting with guns and highwaymen than other rpg games. Fable 1 didnt really had much of an interesting setting since its the same old medieval type world thats been played out in far superior rpg games like Elder Scrolls.
Also, a fantasy setting can have guns and still be in fantasy genre. Hell, DC comics Sandman, one of the greatest fantasy stories of all time, takes place in the modern world.
@@godzilladude1231
It was still a bad direction for the series to be going in. Most of the fantasy elements from Fable 1 were abandoned/toned down to make way for a more industrial/victorian style. That's not what Fable is, Fable is medieval fantasy, not Industrial fantasy.
Alot of the more interesting/fun stuff outside Fable 1 was in the *past* instead of the future. I'd rather see Jack of Blades when he was a hero over seeing how the Hero of Albion's great-great-Grandson is doing. I'd rather see Scythe when he was still properly alive over seeing 2 Kings having an argument. I'd rather see the magic when it was at its strongest over it being pushed aside in favour of guns. Etc.
Justa Person I think your talking about Fable 3. It was Fable 3 that kind of removed virtually almost all of the cool weapons AND takes place in Victorian Industrial style. Fable 2 takes place in the Age of Enlightenment and NOT in Industrial Age Victorian England. The story of Favle 1 was basically generic. Hack of Blades was awesome but the rest was meh. Fable 2’s setting was basically unheard of at that time hence why it was able to garner awards that Fable 1 didnt.
Fable 2 didnt really remove much from Fable 1. Heck there are alot of things that Fable 2 added that Fable 1 didnt have like being able to choose to be a girl, family set up, multiplayer etc. The only thing it toned down was removal of armor but they reinstitate it with DLCs. Magic was not toned down but the new mechcanicw of the game with the permission to switch between mores of attacks with ease made the game easier.
Sply put it was Fable 3 who took out most of it. They removed over three quarters of the weapons and the ability to mix magic made the game even easier. It also had a very useless set of melee attacks that dodnt make any sense so half of your weapons are useless.
@@godzilladude1231 FFS the age of enlightenment is very similar to the industrial revolution. The late parts of it are practically the same as the early parts of the industrial revolution. The watering down of the fantasy sucked and I'd expect my many people that played the first fable FIRST to think that. Fable 2 might of had improvements but it wasn't a massive improvement it's world was a down grade in quality though it had more quantity. Many people think that Fable 2 was the better game but then again Fable didn't sell half the copies that Fable 2 did. So most people played 2 or maybe 3 first and never touched the first game. Saying that Fable 2 was a more interesting setting are you fucking high? Lost Chapters shits on Fable 2 setting,characters and story.
@@godzilladude1231
Users prefer the first fable over fable 2. Critics just jizzed fable 2 for the time setting and guns. The reviews also stink of Microsoft money and stupid reasons....
www.metacritic.com/game/pc/fable-the-lost-chapters
www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/fable-ii
you know, i've played fable tlc at least 40 times now and never have i questioned why they called him the hero of heroes or where he got the other 2 masks from.... or where he came from.... or why he wanted to make this world burn.... damn it all makes sense now !
So Jack is just like a player but is playing the evil side of the character? Like cause he's bored and does what he thinks is interesting? Nice
You cant be the true evil if Jack is I geuss
Afinio lord of games oh yeah true
Nope. He is more but more mysterious...but not as mysterious as Scythe!!! Not even the Oracle knows about Scythe.
@@KilurDragon Because the hero who beated back the court was supposedly dead but because he achieved immortality (probably from the sword) named himself Scythe. Jack is popular he is a powerful being.
@@touchingisjustthefirststep Him turning into a dragon is cute 😍
Something to support your "Jack does whatever he feels like" theory is Jack of Blades kidnapped William Black and took him to the void, then he tried to enslave William with his sword of Aeons, however Will escaped with the sword.
To me, that makes no sense. So i'd like to just believe that Jack kidnapped Will, took him to the void for tea and crumpets, then Jack gave his sword to Will (Although he made it look like an accident) then Will used that sword to defeat the Court.
I like the way you think
Lashiem Cummings I also like the way I think.
Ok
Sorry for the bit of necro, but I always thought it was that William ended up reading a book, ended up teleporting himself into the void in front of Jack by accident, and Jack thought that was fascinating and then Jack decided to mess with him. I don't think he went out of his way to purposely kidnap him.
No possible motive for that. He clearly wants the sword back and he clearly liked the rest of the court.
This is why that lovely red bastard is my favorite charater
Lol
Fable anniversary was pretty awesome in my books.
I like Jack's other weasely voice; it made him more creepy than the deep version does to me.
Both of them work in their own way: The first voice is just as you describe: creepy, manipulative, and snake-esque.
The second is booming, intimidating and larger than life
jack is great and i hope he return are gray lord will rise again and do what ever he likes
Even as just a silly idea I think it would be interesting to have a Fable game where Jack is the playable main character. Because he's more or less a chaotic middle in a world where decisions are made on a whim all the time it would be interesting to see a demi-god interact and pave his path.
My only gripe with your theory is the definition of the word "hero" in Fable. It doesnt necessarily mean "good". This originates from William Black's Children who, despite many of them being petulant monsters, called themselves "heroes".
Because of that, "Hero" is more related to our understanding of the word "fighter" than our understanding of the word "Hero". Being called the Hero of Heroes is just an acknowledgement of his reputation as a whole, not so much his actual good deeds. Of which he has done few.
That's true. But considering that they have drinks and children toys named after him, it can easily be seen that the people of Albion hold him in a warmer regard than the guild, no?
King J. Grim The drink doesn't really carry much weight. Drinks are often named after pop culture references or literary figures. So that's not really a big piece of evidence.
As for the toys, there Are toys of Scythe too, if my memory serves. Scythe, not being the mythical figure that Jack is, wouldn't be a popular child's toy. this tells me that the toys are meant more to be an Easter egg for players than a toy that children in game actually play with.
Dont get me wrong, I agree with your conclusion: that the public reveers Jack (because Albion views it's heroes like we do Prowrestlers for some reason), I just disagree with your evidence.
King J. Grim The drink doesn't really carry much weight. Drinks are often named after pop culture references or literary figures. So that's not really a big piece of evidence.
As for the toys, there Are toys of Scythe too, if my memory serves. Scythe, not being the mythical figure that Jack is, wouldn't be a popular child's toy. this tells me that the toys are meant more to be an Easter egg for players than a toy that children in game actually play with.
Dont get me wrong, I agree with your conclusion: that the public reveers Jack (because Albion views it's heroes like we do Prowrestlers for some reason), I just disagree with your evidence.
Well, not all of the evidence I present are conclusive; like the statue/memorial in the picnic area.
But I appreciate that you do question my logic, important to be critical! Makes things live on longer :)
Hell, I'm just glad you can take criticism and not be butt hurt over it. Though, at the end of the day, I still don't think the people of Albion adore Jack. They just respect/fear him like they do all other heroes. They just respect/fear him the MOST, because of his long history and the power that he wields.
Honestly, my reference to wrestlers and their cultural impact strongly mirrors that of the Heroes of Albion. It's hardly a perfect comparison, though, given that wrestling is ultimately fake and Heroes can do so much more than what we pretend wrestlers can do.
Xiro sounds like Ex hero
Or just Zero
Sounds like someone from Organization XIII
Honestly it just made me think of the Guild of Zeroes.
Or xiro
The term Hero in Fable is best defined by the definition of heroism that has to do with feats of strength as opposed to nobility. To be heroic, or to be a hero, is to possess and utilize great power, but in a way that proves yourself. I believe this is why renown is such an important mechanic in Fable, because it's basically your measure of heroism. Jack of Blades would be considered a hero, because Fable uses an operational definitiom of hero to mean: one who is heroic - which means: capable of great feats of strength/skill/will. He would be considered the "hero of heroes" euphemistically to suggest that his feats of strength are unmatched - even if he's done terrible things. Reaver fits the same profile. He's notorious for abominable things, but he possesses great power.
I recently played fable 1 this year, and gosh it has rich dark history being that my first fable game was fable 3, i later figured out all the main protagonists were related 😭.
Imo the best villain in video game history.
I prefer Dagoth-ur (ES Morrowind) That one has an amazing background story but Jack is pretty awesome. Especially for the Fable series.
This is very fucking good. Deserves more views for Fable fans, honestly. Subbing to you. It's crazy how much work you put into this video when it's about a 12 year old game. Again, great video! :)
Awesome! I'll keep making these as long as people like them, so thanks for enjoying!
Hero was a title given to anyone who completed the trails of the guild, the game specifically says during the training tutorial that you can become the hero that saves the world or the villain that burns the world. Even the bandit leader Twin Blades is a hero, he graduated from the guild too.
They should seriously make another (GOOD!) fable game with Jack as a villain OR taking the heros side, but for selfish reasons
cant,ONE:lionHead studios is dead,2:Jacks Soul,while in its mask was destroyed
MIles Edgeworth if they wanted to it would probably have made an interesting game to play as William black
MIles Edgeworth well its confirmes that fable 4 is a thing now 😉 and the people who made forza horizon 3 are making it
MIles Edgeworth jack came back as a dragon dude imagine whats next by that logic
Jack isn't a man, he has mastered the art of incarnation. That is why he turned into a dragon at the end of Fable 1.
so chaotic neutral
i like that
More like lawful evil
Great Vid. Jack was my favorite villain in any game I’ve ever played. Though I wouldn’t agree he was a hero by conventional definition, he wasn’t really a villain either.
He was pure evil
In a time when perceptions of an objective morality are becoming antiquated, villains like Lucian and Logan are just downers. I hate having to take down the otherwise good guy who’s forced into making hard decisions because life is complicated and blah blah blah. I can’t stand this trend in game narrative where we have to humanize the villain and make them a sympathetic character. If you don’t have a good or evil antagonist you can’t really have a good or evil protagonist it just makes the whole thing moot.
Jack was a perfect villain. By the end of the story you either thought “I have to kill this asshole to save the world.” or “I have to kill this asshole so I can be worse.”
“Some men aren’t looking for anything logical they can’t be bought bullied, reasoned, or negotiate with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.”
-The Dark Knight
Jack was the original Joker.
I always thought he was called a hero because there were bloodlines of superhumans with the ability to bend fate and gain great power. Wether they were good or bad.
you have no idea how happy I am you made this.
What you didnt mention is that the Heros Guild is quite litterally the government of Albion. Towns are free to run thier own affairs, however the guild itself IS the military. Albion, was a military state. The way in which taxes were collected was through payment of quests. Quests being tasks for the hero's (a sort of militarized federal government) to complete, these could be helpful or harmful depending on the guilds era.
note that the spanish name Xavier is pronounced Havier in alot of places in the world; could Xiro be Hiro/Hero?
1:46 apparently he played a decisive role in some great battle in previous decades. The one thing you're told over and over again about Jack is that he is very, very old, older than the trees and mountains, he has, by happenstance done laudable things over that time.
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Was looking at Fable related things the other day, so your video popped up in recommended. Nice job.
I was heartbroken when I found out about Lionhead Studios was shutdown. p.s. I found out 2 1/2 years after it was shutdown
Lost Chapters will always be my favourite
"Hero" were people with superpowers allowing them to harness magic. They literally sucked up energy from the experience they've earned to become incredibly strong, tall/skilled, and wizards.
i really appreciate the amount of work put into this video with all the editing and ideas
Jack of Blades: The simulated player character during the world and lore building phase.
I couldn't stop thinking this the more you spoke about him and his deeds.
I'd say I was an antihero... gained Avos Tear but sacrificed bandits for the horns and Skroms Bow
This might be irrelevant and random, but i'm in the Fables mood. So i've got a fantheory for you.
Theresa is the Queen of Blades. In Fable 2, Theresa manipulates literally everyone, Lucian, Hannah, Hero+Rose, etc. She manipulates everyone for the power of the Spire, now why would she need the Spire's power? Either to resurrect the court or to return her full power.
Think about it, Theresa survived after 500 years whereas her brother who was MUCH more powerful didn't? Not only that, she can now see through all worlds and why would Theresa need the Spire? Because she DOES manipulate Lucian into building it, but Hero's sister isn't the manipulative type... But the Court certainly are.
look you look like you know the lore i have been trying to find everything on Samarkand if you find anything msg me
and good theory
That makes so much sense, damn it puts a whole new spin on Fable 2 and 3 if you look at it like that.
She's actually a part of the shitstorm but for other reason. It is because of what she found in Aurora after her brother spares her life
Superior Orca, your theory is good but if that is the case, why theresa destroyed the spire in fable: the journey?
angel sorian because she don't have the control anymore at this point
jack of blades is a character that no other game really tried to make and he so unique and mysterious i liked that its hard for people to find information on him
the whole fable part of fable has a much stronger meaning when you know why Jack has his comrades' masks
Lady Grey was in Fable 2 also she was dead and you find her dead body parts all scattered around the map and you take a love potion she falls in love with the first person she sees and you have the choice to stay and let her love you or leave, I was being evil and let her fall in love with me, then killed her and the guy who loved her wow I'm evil
You're amazing, Jack of blades became the best antagonist for me since Lich King, man, liked so mucho, i hope you become a great youtuber, excelente work
Jack of Blades will always be one of my all-time favorite video game villains. He's cool, he's malicious, he's insanely cruel, manipulative, and above all, threatening.
Not to mention he has one of the fucking *sickest* designs visually of ANY character I've seen in a game.
Like holy shit that mask.
Jack of Blades is actually a dragon but everyone knows that
Jack of blades reminds me an awful lot of a character in an anime I'm watching. He reminds me of "ains ooal gown".
Fable 4 is a thing now soooo.... Yeah
xvaderxkiller its going to be a reboot, it wont be fable 4 per say. But it’s happening.
speaking of fable. can someone please explain how the map keeps changing from game to game?!?
Charles Barnett Lol never noticed that till now wow being the fable nerd I am I would think I'd know that!
lol
Idk maybe the books explain it. OR maybe its because Fable III is pretty shit.
400 years wouldn't be enough to change the geography of the world.
The layout of Europe and Asia didn't dramatically change between 1100 and 1500, right?
Regardless, fable 3 takes place 50 years after Fable 2 so it's most likely a developer error to make sure the game wasn't 'redundant'
i have been assembling the 3 maps in fable 2 it has the miles between marked but not a complete map but fable 3 has complete map but does not have distances between fable 1./ lost chapters has a partially complete map and no distances you cant have all maps on one as over 400 years the land changes and settlements expand
I just subscribed and I was sad you didn't have more videos and subs. This series is great!
0:28 that was fucking badass.
Somewhat related...the dude sounds like Kylo Ren when he's wearing his mask.
I thoroughly enjoyed this, well done
I don't understand Jack as he is immortal, as are all creatures from the void, no matter how many times the court of blades is abolished they will always return in a different time but, Jack always acted as though he only had one chance to retrieve the sword of aeons. Even if his soul was destroyed in the mask it will recreate over time because the dead are always said to go to the void in the fable universe and recreate himself what does Jack need? An abundance of souls and the rest of the court I assume will need the same so what happened/happens when one or all of them returns/returned? The court of blades will always be the biggest threat in Fable and hopefully we will see him return in the future... if fable doesn't die out first XD
Think of it like the time you retrieved the key from the captain's office in Jack's prison. Now's your chance, fuck it up and you'll have to go through years of torture til you get another.
Yes... I played and still play and live this game because of Jack of Blades.
Very nice video. you sir could become a huge youtuber if you wanted :)
That's what I want! And that's what I'll try!
King J. Grim With videos of this quality i don't know how you have less than 1k subs to be honest. watching the video then seeing the numbers after i was blow away at the quality of the video for your sub count. :)
Anarchy Time Well, the only way I'll get more subs is for people like you to share the channel with friends etc. But I must ask, how did you find my video? :P
King J. Grim I was searching for more info about jack of blades because he is one of my more favorite villains out of the video games i have played. :P Saw the title when searching and it peaked my interest and glad i watched. :D
Anarchy Time Ah, I see. Well, I hope it satisfied your expectations!
And thats one more reason why I like my new profile picture lol.
indeed
here I'll shorten the premise for you: Jack, the best example of Chaotic Neutral to date.
If u check Fable Anniversary then go to picnic area at the round table itll say,"Jack is a famous for battling at bloody things"I think
Jack of blades is my favorite character of all time. I bought a 2022 MT-03 Midnight Black simply for the body style (like a demon) and I am having it repainted and done up. I'll post a link with pictures after it is done. It's going to be EPIC!
interesting take on jack, I've heard the next fable could focus on the knight of blades or even queen, also may I trouble you for the the song that starts at 12:11? and which version it sounds like the fable 2 music box , thank you looking forward to future videos from ya
Jack of Blades is the definition of every player in an open world RPG who tries to be “very good” but always ends up being “very evil”
Hero is someone who is powerful in some regard. You can be a max Yellow stat hero who only accepts villinous quests and still be called hero just as often as an All Might styles character
Fable's Lore is such unique even it's nomenclature & etymology of terms
If at E3 this year the stafe cut to black and i just heard "Jack of Blades... is... back" i would lose my shit! in that same voice and then Fable IV comes on the screen
Lexical analysis of the noun: “hero.”
Hey jack what’s your alignment? “Power”
I loved this game
i still remember when you finished the game, if you watch the credits till the end you would get jacks mask to wear!!
fable 1 i mean
Fantastic video, great job!
mourning wood.
....dammit Molyneux
Don't you just love British Humour :)
seeing this makes me wish they had made a side game where you get to play as Jack and see everything from his POV
Not gonna lie, I loved your interpretation of Jack of Blades and I think it's adds extra depth to an otherwise somewhat generic prophecy villain.
And then I read the comment section, and that ruined it for me. I don't think these guys realize that using lore to discredit any depth and intrigue added to a character actually hurts the content that they're trying to promote.
Jack was a hero until getting sick of the guild and turning into a Powerful demon that feasts on souls. Apparently in the new fable game coming out Jack of blades is in it and you can either fight him, play as him, or play on Jack's side
Jack of blades got it all power, respect, immortality , and to become a freaking Dragon. Damn I think he deserves to be the greatest Hero in all of Albion even if he just a hero to himself.
the bloody harfest. was when the jack knight and queen first burned then drowned then sent plagues and then made the people of Albion insane
In the Fable universe, Hero just means someone with Super Powers. Since the Jack Slayer/Hero of Oakvale died, there was less and less need for them or so people would have rightfully though until the Crawler came along.
Firearms made it so that poorly trained peasants with the element of numbers, surprise and the reluctance of many Heroes to defend themselves, Heroes were proven to be easy to kill, thus few could have seen a need for them, and without the Super-Heroes we get to play via the Hero of Bowerstone and the Hero of Brightwall, they aren't wrong.
But the word Hero is like Mutant in the Xmen universe.
Guess I'm installing Fable again...
Great video.
Very interesting video! Jack is my second favorite video game villain of all time
Nice work sorting out that mess called Fables.
he called every hero in the guild "Puppets"
I think everyone with abilities in Albion is just called a hero. It doesn't matter if you are evil or not.
So basically he wants to rule the world and has vanity issues.
Jack is kinda like the default player... Usually I play RPGs as a good character, but often I save, then go on mayhem destroying all, and then reload the save.
Every dislike is from the bandits, Ganon, Jack of Blades and his minions, and Ganon. Yes i had to say ganon twice.
Fable was so good! And somebody needs to do a cosplay of Jack of Blades👌 By the way your house looks an interesting layout, looks like Downton Abbey house 😁
Still one of my all time favorite villains. Such a badass outfit.
Hero in the Fable series doesn't necessarily mean "good person". It's used to refer to anyone capable of great deeds, you can go on a murdering spree and become the most evil person in the land, and you'll just earn more renown. Hero of Heroes probably just refers to the fact that Jack is terrifyingly powerful and up to that point no Guild Hero could even be a match for him.
Could one argue that Jack has a Lovecraftian view of right and wrong? That he doesn’t or can’t even begin to understand complicated compass of morality?
That's not true
Anyone else noticed Warcraft 2 music at 4:22
Shit I thought I subbed when I first saw your Dishonored vid about who Corvo killed.. Guess not but I am now. Great vids with the right amount of info and humor
Thank you! A new video will be out soon!
That's great man, I'm hoping it's for Dis2. I saw your review for it and noticed you were fair about it despite loving the first one you still pointed out it's flaws(a good thing). I pretty much felt the same after doing both character runs but what disappointed me the most was them giving Corvo a voice, it really changed the character I played from the first one but it was still an amazing game that didn't end up being caught in the 1st's shadow.
Jack took over a hero's body from guild probably.
bloody harvest
more then likely caused by jack himself and he forced them to make him a statue.
Haha I haven’t played Fable in about 5 years and I still remembered that name. Fable is one of my favourite games, I’m sad I haven’t played the sequels yet.
Jack is actually all heroes in myths trapped in the mask and that includes Rance
Jack of blades
Was like 🎒💭🦊⚖️🦋
That version of lady grey really needs to calm down
Except the whole point of the fable series is that you can be both a good or an evil hero because the term hero isnt strictly attached to saving people but to fame and power.
Every Jack is secretly a hero
The fact that people call Jack of Blades a hero is kind of the way things are in OUR world.
There are PLENTY of people with statues of themselves on this dreary planet who got famous by doing VERY bad things...